#tank-balance-discussion
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@junior coral then that 150mm wannabe gun will be underperforming. Besides, why would you want people to be able to buy their way into Tier X, when f2p players spend much time and effort to reach, and their effort spent cannot be valued with mere dollars and gold. Just imagine spending almost 2 years grinding 1 line to reach tier 10, only to see some guy with 3 battles on record driving a Chieftain Mk 6 on your team and throwing the game. It’s infuriating
I feel like we gotta talk about the ISU
[Edit]: 152 specifically
Any plans to increase the speed of T28 proto? The gravedigger weighs 10 more tons and goes 15 kph faster, totally not P2W.
ISU 152 is fine
isu 152 is fine with its ridiculously strong gun
It has to, with the bad armor and traverse
su series dont have good armor but a health buff to isu might be needed because 1010 hp is a joke even for tds
The poor armor and traverse is to help balance the tank, especially when it carries the best gun tier for tier
Rhm gets 1k base health tho
no borsig is 1100 hp
Dafuq why am I always rate limited
@dapper osprey im guessing that the crazy amounts of armor that the proto has makes up for the speed. (T28 proto)
the only thing the t28 proto has over the t28 is angled hull armor and a turret
Let's talk about the red headed step children of tier VII. The panther M10 and the T23E3. These tanks have been completely forgotten for a long time now. Since 3.6 the have repeatedly been ninja nerfed by changes to the meta. 3.6 hurt their premium round. A round that was used often due to the constant IS spam they face. Then 3.8 took their vents and nerfed their gun rammer while at the same time buffing the armor of that same IS spam. These tanks took a massive hit in their DPM over a series of updates. This needs to be addressed.
T23E3 is still fun
@unique scaffold Agreed, and aren't u on the forums?
Not saying it isn't fun. I'm saying it has been repeatedly ninja nerfed over a period of updates. And yes @unique scaffold I am.
@unique scaffold yeah but gravedigger is that but faster, if it goes 20 it should have a bigger gun so that way your team doesn’t ditch you for the mediums
Hmm you are right
I kinda need more pen on the T23E3
Or faster reload, whatever helps
@dapper osprey Very good point, i agree. The Gravedigger also has amazing speed, its hard to think of whats going on with the speeds. I think the t28 needs a speed buff or grave needs a speed nerf (unlikely) :GWseremePeepoThink:
When I aim at Gravedigger front with Rhm, I see all red
grave digger gun is terrible, the tank is balanced
@autumn night oh no no no, its not terrible
For the T23E3 I'd like to see a slight rof fire increase and for the gun to be made similar to the bulldog. APCR standard and heat as pramo.
Heavy version of the AMX 13 57
if a gun with bad pen 90 alpha, and bad accuracy for 57mm is not terrible i dont know what is
@unique scaffold T28 has somewhat good armor too, you can get your sides HE so if someone circles you you die, but if you had a 640 alpha gun like everyone other tier 8 td (excluding french and British) maybe your team will support you
Its pen is somewhat good actually
you cant afford to fully aim your shots most of time and nearly half of them miss or bounce
Then the T28 will be a slimmer T95 one tier lower
Buff for german tiger , tiger ll
@dapper osprey I strongly agree with that, it either needs more alpha or more speed. Maybe a balance of both
@unique scaffold because that’s what tier 8 is all about, speed
@viscid granite , i agree, heavy tanks should not be Penderecki with higieny explosive on the black dog od the ru 251
T28 prototype armor is kinda pointless when everyone knows your turret can be penned easily
@humble olive tiger should get buffed because its just brick with low damage per shot
The T28 prototype is like a weaker T34
U suggest it should get a 105mm?
@unique scaffold I would also like to mention it has the wort pen of all tier 8 TDs it’s the slowest too, so if you play it ruins your winrate
<@&481447501690568709> e75 should get a little bit more armor in lower plate
@viscid granite we do not balance the tanks. Please don’t @ us over that
Hello im new to this channel,moderators i agree e75 should get more armor at lower plate
Personally I think the e75 is fine as is. Side scrape and get hull down ¯_(ツ)_/¯
^
we don't work for WG. We're just players doing volunteer-work
Coz as for me developers should rather add new branches to the tech tree with some unique gameplay like let's say a kanonenjagdpanzer based atgm vehicles not just premiums with crazy good dpm/autoloader
Why is slow mode so long
@worthy basin is youtuber that streamed Twister cup?
yes
Captain2xJ#6548 has been warned.
gotta be kidding me
@dapper osprey to stop spam and keep this section calm
ATGMs don't work well
A few moments back the T49 ATGM is already very broken
Lol mav
E75 has a stronger effective lower plate on flat ground than the E100
@unique scaffold ok but 45 seconds?
E75 is very noob-friendly. If it gets buffed, it's going to be way too OP
especially when driven by unicorns
Exactly
@bold dagger how can t54 pen you then
Heat?
Yep
The cupola
@viscid granite because they aim
^all of that
Anywhere BUT the front plate?!
e 75 has a very strong lower plate if angled
If you think the E-75 needs a buff you are playing it wrong.
@unique scaffold hola
Just because it's not impenetrable, doesn't mean it's weak in the slightest
@dark pike but you need to be pro to angle lower plate and not get pen on the side
Aloha @quick lichen!
Opinion on the T23E3 pretty please. I think the meta since 3.6 has been very unkind to that poor tank.
Some people say that black prince needs to be buffed...
I think it’s a paper medium that isn’t very special
I don’t want one
I’d rather have a drac rudy Helsing nameless lupus etc
Also in all my 450 battles with e75 i got only one ammo reck
You should spend more time on armor inspector
I really think the T23E3 needs a penetration buff, maybe give it a 90mm gun with the exact same dpm
But not getting ammo racks doesn’t mean a tank is bad
The point I made earlier was that it used to be so much better. It and the Panther M10 are the red headed step children of tier VII.
Panther m10 has gone from seal clubber to meh
@void patrol , how would you then play other stuff like my beloved e25 or even the comet, these vehicles would be just peeka boo,Ed by the crazy t23e3 90mm
Ammo rack hiting system needs to be balanced because in 70% of geting ammo rack kill it will be done by tank destroyer
Give the T23e3 a slightly faster firing version of Bulldogs 76mm single shot gun. APCR as standard and Heat as pramo.
Tank destroyers 1 have bigger guns and 2 do more module damage
Buff the T30 turret, 279 is not enough
As for me, t23e3 is a well balanced vehicle, it can be both horrible and awesome. It depends on how you play it
Tank destroyers as oddly as it sounds, are designed to destroy tanks with larger gun calibers and higher penetration
@dapper osprey that’s a joke right?
@viscid granite https://youtu.be/7Y9C177B3dc
World of Tanks - Top Tanks - E-75 and T-54 ace tankers in two of the best tanks at Tier 9 on the mines map! SUBSCRIBE!: http://youtube.com/subscription_cente...
Please learn how to e75
@humble olive can’t E25s just get below the barrels of reds and burn them down at point blank range while comets COD? The difference between the comet and the T23E3 is that the comet at least has a trollish turret and great mobility while the T23E3 is sluggish at best, even with engine boost
The T30 is an absolute monster. Doesn’t need any help
@quick lichen yes, but not about the T28 proto needing a buff it is really lacking in everything
But it goes backwards really fast!🤣
Not every tank is designed to be god tier
Some tanks are going to be bad
It’s just a fact
@quick lichen t30 has a lot of damage per shot but its armor needs to be nerfed
Name a bad Russian tank other than kv3
What are you talking about
@humble olive plus 90mm damage model isn’t really what you wanna use for peek-a-boo tactics. The alpha is too low. Only 200.
T30 only has turret armor
@dapper ospreyA-32
The E75 doesn’t need a buff
@void patrol , e25 can't get down below every tank gun but just certain heavies, and it's still difficult to remain there no matter how good you are and comet's turret ain't that strong, believe me
I need isu
I’m not sure what you guys are looking for here
JagdTiger and SU-122-54 very good tiers 9 too
Tier 9 is one of my favorite tiers
@quick lichen a discussion about balance?
It honestly feels quite balanced
If don’t average 2k damage at tier 8 are you a noob?
But it’s almost always bottom-tier :/
@unique scaffold there’s balance and then buffing a tank into broken status
@quick lichen idk what is it but sometimes e75 feels like its made out of paper
I think is4 must have 200 more hp
Good players make it work
T9 feels like the best tier in the game; you can stomp tier 8 while remaining very competitive against tier 10s.
@viscid granite if the e75 feels like paper I’ve got bad news for you with every tank other than the is4 and maus
I agree tier nine does feel well balanced... Until you are bottom tier with 7-9 tier X TD's spread between the two teams. Then it feels less balanced.
@quick lichen i said sometimes
Tier 9 tournaments should exist
Is su-100 a hard grind?
Anyone with me is4 needs 200 more xp
If you drive side on to a 183 in an e75, your tank will feel like paper
@steel vault is4 is already broken op
And you want it getting more hp?
IS-4 is fine
Gun balances it
The gun is amazing on the 4
Mmm is4 have 2500 hp in pc
It could be good without being OP
rages about slow mode
We aren’t on pc are we?
And Maus has like 3,000
None of the tanks have the same ho
It's a vicious circle. Bad players gravitate towards OP tanks, suck in them, and then the tanks get buffed. So goes life in Blitz.
Hp*
Maus vs. T92 HMC (before AP we removed for SPGs)
@unique scaffold that’s not how balancing works. It’s balanced off of 55%ers->65%ers
It also needs more fire power @quick lichensurely actuelly I want it sorry it is my opinion pl
@quick lichen is e75 same in wot pc as in wot blitz
I know... It just feels that way sometimes
E75 is just as good in blitz as it is in pc
If not better
@steel vault I guess you really hate the is-7 then
@quick lichenmmm it i right
200 hp more on an is-4 means there is no point in playing an is-7
Absolutely none
So you would break tier x
@quick lichenno i like is7
And call it balancing
It’s already broken as hell
@quick lichen they say is tanks need more armor just because is is made to be facing straight at enemy
@vocal pebble does that chart show that M48 Patton needs a nerf?
@humble olive the Comet turret ain’t strong, but it is still trollish, given that part between the gun and the chassis is like jutting out to make the surface uneven. Besides, E 25 can still kinda snipe, given that its still very small, thus having a good camo rating. T23E3 on the other hand does not bring anything to the table. Its big, the gun’s performance is underwhelming, the armor feels worst than the Pz.sFl IVc, and it feels painfully slow.
@quick lichen lower plate is only thing you can pen then
Oof I tagged wrong person :’(
Is 7 need Turret improvement I think
This is really hard for a lot of players. @quick lichen. I think we both know that.
Who is asking for IS 4 buff? What even
^^^
@steel vault IS-7 turret is already hard 2 pen
That’s like saying the mod 1 needs 200 more hp
Aloso need 100hp
👀
👅 @iRaikkonen [SCAMO]
Buff E 50 M gun depression to 12 degree (joke)
The is7 has been completely power crept by the 113 and is4
I think that the Maus needs armor buff ))) and 183’s gun sucks
There is no point in using an is7
No is7s Turret can be pen with ap shell
😢 i was grinding IS7
I will be ok with IS 7/4 buff if they gave me Maus buff from pc lol
E4 is a very good tank when you use it right
In the side or rear of the turret only
@steel vault top of the turret maybe, but not front
Head on even the best players can’t pen an is7 turret with ap
@steel vault no it cant because is 7 whole front side is desinged to be faced against enemy
I’m not sure where you are getting your information from
Facing head on, even the LFP of IS 7 trolls my 299 AP from Jagero
Only thing that has a chance is premium shells and probably calibrated shells
I already pen is7s Turret with my is4 severely
@quick lichen me?
374 heat pen
You’re using heat
Or not looking at the front
I will make a training room if you’re so inclined
No ap shell @quick lichen
False
@steel vault Tier 8 can pen Maus head on, where is my Maus buff lol
Is-4 with calibrated still isn’t getting ap shells to pen an is7 head on
And from front really believe me
I’ve played 1100 battles in pubs and a few hundred in tournaments in my is7. I don’t believe you because it’s never happened to me
@lunar niche Maybe turret cheeks buff, but Maus is meant to have several weakpoints like KV-5, it would be broken if it was too hard to pen
Nt calibrated I'll give u replay later
Upgrade Centurion mk 7/1
Cent 7 is good as us
@unique scaffold LFP is there, even the bottom side hull armour is like 80 mm
Load hesh and flank
And maus fv183 and obj268 r too much op
Yeah I love it too but so slow
Well. I guess since pramo pays for rng that makes sense @toxic tapir
Maus has underpowered pen
268 isn’t over powered
@steel vault Maus is too slow too, I wonder why you say it's op
@lunar niche No way that they buff LFP, it would be broken I think
183is over powered, no 268
@regal rootobj has380 pen
@unique scaffold Not talking about buffing LFP lol. I was saying LFP is a weakspot along with the 80 mm armour behind tracks and the hull slants while angled.
@steel vault I don't think it's hard to kill 268, except that it's kinda quick and in good hands it's troublesome
@regal rootit can pen anything else on its road
@unique scaffold the base pen in tier x has gone up to 260. With CS that can go to 270+. Whats 240 turret cheeks gonna do?
@unique scaffold what about the autobaguetter?
@lunar niche Yes I said that cheeks need buff at least to 260 mm like on pc
@lunar nicheright
@unique scaffold Turret cheeks to 260 or just buff the gun handling. Takes forever to aim, which exposes weakspot. 246 pen can be worked around but the gun handling is not good for such stable platform.
@lunar niche idk much about it, I got the Maus but don’t play much bcz I really suck at Tier 10
Is 4 needs 63 to 65 fire power and is 7 also needs 62 to 64
Maus is good. It’s really supposed to be the riot shield of the team. make everyone shoot at you while you’re team does the job.
@lunar niche better than E100 aim, coz enemies just wait for us to shoot as we aim gun at them
@steel vault they’re already fine
@unique scaffold Its good if you know how to angle. You can bully IS7/4 1 vs 1 but the autoloaders will run circle around you. And yeah, 80 mm armour gets tracked and dmged at ridiculous angle.
@visual nimbus most of the time, teams dont do anything, 😂😂
Coz cheeks too wide and easy pen
Well that’s true in regular battles I guess. But Maus makes a good tourney tank
@regal root That too, but the aim time is not much different between them.
@visual nimbus true
@visual nimbus I saw lots of IS 4 this time around. Give it a few months and another superheavy or russian heavy will replace Maus in tourneys.
I mean It’s possible, but it hasn’t happened yet.
@viscid granitehahaha alot of noob team in wotb
This was one of my best Maus game. It was on mines with mostly meds on the red team. Have to say there were noobs on the red team, otherwise they would have rushed.
hi
Nice
finally my mute is over
Any is4 nerfs soon?
Why would you nerf is4?
Hmmm... there is a special place in hell for guys like u...
@viscid granite no disrespect intended mate but it’s a bit unfair to just say “our noob team” blaming them. The E75 is a monster at tier 9, put it on the front line absorbing for the team and it will help a lot.
Maybe cuz its the most op tier X atm
@sullen mango agree
Buffed the upper plate and the turret. Not the is4 is broken when hull down
@chrome salmon not op...at least bc 80% of is4/is7 players are just noobs
Needed to pick turret or upper plate. Not both
@sleek grove if it’s not op, why is it spammed in tier x tournaments?
The way it can go hulldown almost anywhere with unpenable turret and troll small lfp
@quick lichen i can say is as good as well driven e5
@sullen mango the fact is light tanks act like they are tank destroyers
And the hatch is penable
@chrome salmon the same thing is with the is7 turret
Is7 turret just weak on gold
@viscid granite that’s irrelevant to you not knowing how to play the e75
Is7 turret isn’t weak
@quick lichen it is the same with the is4
@quick lichen why you think i dont know how to play e75
Is4 got over buffed. Plain and simple
Because you’ve complained about the e75 for the past hour despite everyone else saying it’s amazing
That’s a start
What about the su-122-54 lol
Its sick now
I think tiger 2 is amazing as well....change my mind
Yea agreed, is4s turret is just straight up unpenable
Is7 upper plate is weaker than the is4 and takes more skill to use anyways
@quick lichen see I know how to
Pikes are way harder to use
One game isn’t proof of anything
Show me your averages
3k is nothing speacial in tier 9/10 games
Is7 cant go hulldown most of time cuz of gun d
U.S. medium line should have a Tier X - M60A1. Then it would be comparable to the Soviet medium line Tier X - T62.
Should doesn’t really apply to wot
@humble pecan M60 is a premium already
It’s not a historical simulator
And m48 does it's job tbf
And the m48 has been the top tier us med since wot came out
@viscid granite nobody is saying you don’t know how to play it but you need to remember everyone stats are public so it takes two seconds to quickly look and see how anyone is doing in any tank. As a personal quick recommendation I would say your playing it way to passively.
Im triggerd when someone says "bigger maps and more players"
Actually I'm amazed that m48 is such good tank....despite his size
It sounds fun to me
@sleek grove m48 Patton is a beautiful tank to play 😍
Manage to do equal dmg and assist dmg... which is good for me
Blitz is so small. Think about himmelsdorf. It’s go left or go right and that’s it
Stb>
I lile the hole american med line
@sullen mango but T-62A is a blyatiful tank to play
Lol tankist
@sullen mango ik...but still stb is my bae
Everyone says to me that stb sucks, but i love it, almost at 3k avg
I would prefer a patton every day, I adore it
I got only Leo 1, hence I love it anyway 😐 😐
Gotcha
@chrome salmon STB-1 is a Leo-1 with less speed but a bit more armor and low profile, why ppl says that it’s bad?
@quick lichen what do you think about is5?
I usually have a 2k dmg in meds....just cause I like to help my team as a scout ...and assist dmg comes in help...aced stb with 2.3k dmg
The most boring one
That too
@quick lichen is3d
Is3 d is number 2
IS-5 is an IS-8 downgraded to tier 8
Nooooooo
Idk...why....but I can't ace is5....fml
Lowe is 3rd?
I prefer is3d anyday
I despise the IS-5 with a passion. I try it once a month or so, miss some shots, inevitably end up going up against a red E-75, die, and then say I'm not playing this stupid thing again. Rinse and repeat one month later.
T49 isu And borsig love the m6
Am I good? @quick lichen
Pre nerf wz-110 was best
^^^ that
T49 for the memes
I didn't buy is5
That’s not a good thing
T49,borsig,ru my favorite tier 8s tbh
I wish I didn't buy the IS-5
T49 is a waste of teammate when facing iss
M6 is bad, I beat a guy from _STR8 in a 1v1 when he used it and I was using CDC (cdc is op tho)
M6 is just average
M6 is only good against bots that cant shoot the side
M6 is if you keep enemies to front
Rhm is bae tbh...better than grille
CDC only OP in mad games
But its enormous size balances it
#buff Fv4202
M6 is just a taller t28 proto
@sleek grove grille has best gun handling in whole line
Defender by far has the best wr
Ik...butt it feels more satisfying to he someone on t8 than on t10
Oh, haha, I see that option
Defender is op
It’s accurate for me
Also the m6 has only a third of the games played
Not to mention far fewer people own it
Defender is good and so it's gun, I don't find any problem
Defender front is very weird to shoot at and that saves it
T34 or Superpershing ?
T34 all day
I prefer the Super Pershing
T34!
600 less battles and everyone owns the defender
It’s not an argument
Furthermore. If the m6 was better. Why isn’t tier 8 tournaments m6 spam?
T34 hands down... But I prefer the Super Pershing. It just looks so good and mine has a lady on the side.
I think wg needs to do something with the fv183, so there wont be so much ppl playing it, 2 per game is average fvs for me atm
Why do is5 and is 3ds own tier 8 comp?
Wow, you guys have so many tanks
I got like only 70-74 played and researched included 😐 😐
I agree on pike nose being harder to use. I do better in Tiger II compared to IS 5.
@regal root I got like 5 t10 and 2 future tier 10s
While the M6 is pretty good in my opinion. It’s too big and gets punished for small mistakes
@quick lichenwhat tank you like most
M6 is weak by the sides
@quick lichen how much e75's lower plate has milimeters at 40° angle
@sleek grove nice
My whole clan knows my t10 tanks coz I never grind other than those
Dear God not the E-75 again
Lol
It was a grind event. Of course pramo has the tank
@unique scaffold why not if everyone says its amazing
@gleaming light??🤐🤐🤐
@steel vault favorite tank is probably the T49
Because it's a dead horse topic?
Wh
40* is way too much angling for an e75
My most tank ever played is grille with over 1200 battles
Kv1s
Kv1s is sooooo good
mine is T-3485 Victory
T49 is a blast. Bulldog is also a hoot.
200 games from 2k games in Super Pershing
Ha! I don't think thats a fair fight. @quick lichen
Welcome to blitz lol
T49 is fun af, especially if you know how to play
Would kv1s be considered sealclubbing? @quick lichen
T49 feels weak.. ..tbh
Um. No? But it’s not far from it
T49 is one of my favorites but it’s not reliable in the long run
T49 isn’t weak
Bulldog is very underrated
Is7 is good
T49 with 90mm is also pretty good
Captain2xJ#6548 was muted
@quick lichen worst tier 9 tank?
Idk....i don't own myself a t49....but in my t8 encounters....it struggles to fight me
T49 is almost fully the best tank.
If a t49 ia trying to cod you just shoot its track
T49 was best tier 8
T49 has to play smart... Needless to say that doesn't make it a strong tank for many players.
@chrome salmon tough one. I didn’t like the tortoise. Kpz is quite troll to use. I didn’t like the type 61
Yeet
It’s a high risk high reward tank
Probably the tortoise
Felt good ammo clapping people each round
Had 11 T49 ammo racks in a row before someone else racked me, now it’s more situated in brains
Plese help my SD si Crash
Type 61 was the worst one i played so far, but i didnt play the tort
I played only mad games this weeks and no change to my wr and avg dmg....yet I had best games....
Tortoise is pretty bad
Buff T30 give it the 750 alpha gun from PC
There is no reason to play Tortoise when you can play Jagdtiger or SU-122-54.
@chrome salmon how dare u say that....type 61 is godly....the gun is just perfect the armour tho.....
5.5 has already ruined it so why not @quick lichen
I think that the 183 grind should be as painful as possible. Change my mind
I can't.
isnt it already ?
5.5 is an enhancement to blitz
I agree
Pta and cent has better gun
@dapper osprey sure if we get 1750 alpha 183.
Remove 183 from the game, but put the 183 gun on jg instead 👌
No. Both of you go play pc and leave blit alone
I am ok with 183 but remove the best
All I play on Pc is my T67 so no
Tds are already the meta and you want to buff them??
@willow junco I hope u get ammo racked every game for that reaction
@gleaming light I’ve said that for a year
@quick lichen i appreciate less arogant sealclubbers
As do I
Bruh what's going on
High alpha TD's are the Crocs of blitz.... Sure they are comfortable but at their core they are designed for people who can't tie their shoes.
i ammor rack u with my 183
Interesting point
@unique scaffold 🔥
@quick lichen If they remove 183 though, lots of players will be angry. Even if the players get to keep it after getting replaced, it won't help tier X.
263 one of my fav tanks
Keep it but remove its hesh
Avg iq of 183 ppl i meet is prop around 50 lol
Idc because the 183 makes more players angry by existing in the first place
T30 makes people rage
People rage at everything who are you kidding?
I love to trigger people with 930alpha dmg
If they nerf the camo and traverse, it will be manageble. The 3.8 equipment changes made it a lot better.
Ste tu někdo Čech?
Amen my dude @quick lichen
I got shot in the turret with a jg e100 heat round in my pta and it bounced. I got screamed at for 30 minutes
I had a 183 rage at me for shooting him with HESH from my FV4202🤣
Nerf camo by a lot and its good
Come on now
Nerf pramo?
NO
Ive bounced so many fvs in my e50m and its funny when they say "cheater" or "hacker"
@gleaming light Meds won't even push aginst another meds lol.
well someone needs to stop rushing meds tho
@gleaming light the tank is balanced for tier x. The tank isn’t balanced for BLITZ. And that’s the problem
Set a limit of 2 TD's per team. That'll clear out a lot of the TD spam in higher tiers. Make em wait in que or play different tank.
That’s the best way I can describe it
You cant really push a one way flank with 183 sitting in a bush and thats a problem
Buff batchat to have 4 round clips
@chrome salmon plus you have to ask, which bush is he in
Bat chat is perfect
@dapper osprey can’t
Do you know why the bat has 3 shells at 310 alpha?
I can explain
But I need you guys to stop typing for me
Yes that also
Deal?
👌
Camo is too good for a tank the size of Jageroo.
#buff 183's aiming time
#no
Shut up
Everything on blitz is less, because there are less players on each side
and shell velocity
Bat chat = 183
Bat 310+310+310=930
183 ap = 930
Bat 3 sec + 3 sec + 14 sec clip = 20
183 without rammer = 20
The bat is actually balanced off of the 183. The is is directly off of the balancing people from wg. I talked to them about it in person at twister last year
The problem is that the bat will bounce a shot and the 183 will pen hesh
So therefor you get 620 vs 1300
There’s the lack of balance
Ask away
I’m not making this up
Give it hep
My idea was for the tvp to get 3 shots with 2 second delay and 16 second clip. Still adds to 930 in 20 seconds
@dapper osprey Yeah, why doesn't Leopard 1 have HEP like Ru 251?
Interesting
I thought the same
@quick lichen let him cry , fv183 is an excuse for many people for their difficulties and results in high tier
@lunar niche because ru is bad and hep balances it
Ru is bad? Lol
What if the helsing and FV215b 183 Had a baby, lmfao
Here’s the other problem. The bat has to be exposed for at least 6 seconds and find its own shots. Meanwhile the 183 camps and just pokes when it needs to
It’s why the 183 isn’t balanced for blitz
It doesn’t work here
It doesn’t have to work for its damages
183 nukes all and spares none
Agreed.
Every other tank does
Replace it with the Badger, like idek
It can be he penned by high calibers
Badger , give it to me
Just whining 😃
Even the jg e100 doesn’t have a turret so it has to be smarter
The 183 should just get a Camo and Armor nerf
Jg e100 has to angle and find its own shots without the turret
Yeah, it works better in the tech tree too, you would have less lights getting fůcked at the begining of the game
@quick lichen what if they put in the Foch 115B
Oh ..yeah...badger.....just an armoured tortoise
@quick lichen Why Batchat over a Leopard 1?Autoloading aside, is it because of light tank camo and a bit more mobility?
Or replace it with Fv4002...he magnet
183 already got an armor nerf. No difference
If WG delete the 183 whiners will focus another tank nd so on
JgpzE100 needs alpha dmg buff
Give Foch autoloader
Chieftain 95 needs to get removed gun port
What Jg needs is an RNG buff for the gun. Too many 600 rolls.
I don’t think the Jg needs any buff
@dapper osprey can you voice chat
@willow junco legit...u got ideas that trigger us
I’ll explain why the foch doesn’t have an auto loader
jg really need it , the gun never shoots 900 or 1000 , it usually shoots around of 680to750
Be honest all : which tank have the best stats in tier 10 ? FV183 ? No
Too much typing
@ancient geyser well there will always be a tank inbalances,but deleting the 183 off will be an immense improvement
Type 5 need to be in the game
@quick lichen in school, and I’m assuming it is the same for bat chat? It should get a 2 round autoloader 640 alpha 6 seconds between shells
I'm getting so trigger over ppl that want pc damage in blitz
Can we get more mbts like the kpfpz70?
I’ll pm you
@ancient geyser Imagine you get HE Hit wegen your playing AMX 50B
Nope
Just because Jg is the weakest TD doesn’t mean it’s a bad tank
183 has the highest avg dmg by a huge margin compared to others,yet the lowest winrate.tell me how thats balanced
I play tier 10 @lucello and I don’t whine
@ancient geyser Maus had the best WR from what i remember. 183 hass the highest dmg with the lowest WR.
Jg is fine i am satisfied with it
@sullen vault to many jgs yolo
atleast jgpze100 needs little bit of Gun Arc
@lunar niche it has low wr cause of noobs that shoot and die
Atleast they may nerf the camo rating of 183 down to Jge100 ...that might balance it
^^
@gleaming light i feel like the new German superheavies are a test for Jap heavies.
nerf 183 camo buff grille camo should be what they do
NO
@jovial kernelye
Not only this tank have no armor and when this tank had shot , this tank is dead 23s reload
I feel 183 has excellent camo...that is main problem
the fcking aiming time always resets everytime i move
@ancient geyser just because u dont whine doesnt mean its balance,thats not how it works.
hesh
@tepid otter since it existed
yeah the 183 doesn't get spotted until it's already aimed, fired, done 1300 damage, and already moving back to cover
@tepid otter 1300 avg with HESH/HE. Max is 1650 i think.
@sullen vault when 183 will have bests stats than t110e4 we will talk about nerf 183
@ancient geyser it has highest avg dmg,i just stated that
Fv 183 is pretty op
The fact a 183 can almost one shot a grille it kinda problematic.
The Fv183 should be replaced with the badger
183 has broken stats that's just a fact I'm sorry. It puts itself at minimal risk and does massive damage. It's basically artillery in blitz.
I just look all the stats , I could take each tank which is the best in a stats and ask for nerf
@ancient geyserwhat does that mean,raw stats?
The E5 is so balanced it’s average favorite tier 10 personally
@unique scaffold no its fun (i dont play iT xd)
I think auto loaders are balanced asf....in mad games my t57 heavy was godly when I whipped out 2/3 of the hp pool of a maus with the hammer perk max roll being 750
I like diversity with real strongnesses and weaknesses and fv183 have the both
If ur talking about raw stats, then im happy ur not a developer of this game.
Question since preme are becoming "collectible" does that mean they can nerf them without having to compensate if people are unhappy with the purchase?
@unique scaffold its not for the lights that get shot like crazy, that fv is cancer. They wont shoot targets with low hp because they want damage done, which is cancer. So they will rather shoot a 2000 hp Heavy than a 31 hp batchat
the main reason 183 is op in blitz unlike the wot PC the maps are smaller and view ranges are shorther, in wot tier 10 tanks have 400m view range form that distance fv cannot pull out accurate shots, so shooting unspotted is not an option for fv183s in wot PC, however in blitz it needs approx 200 meters to remain unspotted and that is close enough for that gun to work
That chart is outdated though
Yes i get oneshotted in my batchat ap @unique scaffold
The FV215b 183 is OP because it allows noobs to pretend they're good at the game since they can do stupid amounts of damage and a 2/1 damage ratio with little to no effort just by firing 3 shots
Have you seen fv4202 => nerf it cause damages lol more than 183
@tepid otter t57 is just a better amx50b....fite me
@unique scaffold Then the Fv should be replaced with the Badger because the 183 Ruins games like crazy
@ancient geyser u clearly dont get balancing in this game.
Yes its op and annoying af
FV4202 has exactly one reason to play it which is HESH. The FV215b 183 doesn't need hesh to turn a game campy
I do feel the E5 needs a small buff
I think wg need to put more tier 10 light tanks in the game
@unique scaffold Well you said that it shouldnt be replaced and now you find the 183 annoying. The FV Should not be in blitz. It doesnt fit in the tech tree in any way.
the FV4005 at least fits the tree branch
They need to delete the fv
@jovial kernel Not really, its turreted with no armour. Badger is the one.
they should nerf its camo rating for a start and maybe ap penetration
Its much different from the at tanks and it is a new matter in the game with more camping
@lunar niche I mean on pc it fits the fact that the tree for it has turrets and no armor, with guns that increase in size
@lunar niche Yeah but before the FV4005 is the conway, it properly leads up to tier X and isnt gonna be a pain in the ass to deal with. The fv183 after the tortoise is annoying because the fv 183 has little armor, and it makes zero sense
@unique scaffold its just a stupid tank
plus the conway has a 5.5 inch gun now that would transition from the 120mm gun to the 183mm gun as a middle step
Plis nerf gravediger
The 4005 has much better transitions than the FV183, its time for the 183 to go
War gaming has repeatedly said that the type 5 is not coming to blitz @gleaming light
@quick lichen better not, its stupid tank
@quick lichen are they going to put the swedisch tanks in the game?
@tepid otter change your name
Why was my message deleted @quick lichen
You’ve got 2 minutes
@unique scaffold inappropriate text
@tepid otter you know why
1 minute
But literally the person before me said the same thing... smh @quick lichen
I deleted both
''Balance,,
Says 2 mins, waits 10 seconds says 1 minute
And I’m telling you to change it
It’s close enough to the real thing
Everyone knows what you are referring to
Hmmmm... I'm not offended by his name tbf
I suggest changing that name dude
Just do it
KuklaxKlan#7841 was softbanned
Hmmmm
@quick lichen Gravedigger can get new second gun?
@quick lichen you could have just changed his nickname yourself...
And he can change it back
Anyone think the vk45.02 A should get a buff? I drove it fairly recently, and while it was ok, it is just below average in almost every aspect of it's stats: low pen, mediocre if not poor armour, lackluster mobility, and huge size
You’re all allowed to change your own names on the server
softbanned
the Type 5 is a no skill meme tank that means you can damage everything regardless of positioning, it's literally every single problem that people have with it in pc, then some more because arty doesn't exist
Even if we change it, you can change it back
@quick lichen do u think swedisch tank Will come in the game
Soft ban is for 2 weeks
Well if he changes it back then you could ban for him resisting a warning @quick lichen
Edit: oh, only two, kk nvm
Wow nice
I don’t like saying this but it’s in the rules that you can’t argue mod decisions
He got what was coming to em
Please don’t make me do anything more
We are all here because we like playing the game
It doesn’t matter what tank or where you come from
How long is a hard ban?
oof cant argue with mod, who made those rules
^
mods are here because of members, so no members=no mods?
Oof
@spring pelican nope. We’ve been here since the beginning. Stop probing
Also there’s 15k people here
So, about the vk? Buff or not?
How exactly are you going to get them to all leave?
you didnt get what I was saying
@atomic hound vk a is good as is
It’s a support heavy
And a medium killer
Don’t front line with it
@quick lichen I was driving it at 60%, but it often felt a little futile against some of the more overpowered tier 8s
Just can’t engage is spam head on is all
It isn't really quick enough to bully mediums either
Which vk?
4502A
did you know that Wargaming has their airplane?
it could 100% use some small buffs tho
Wow
Dudes
buying crates=wg has airplane
Yes its treu
Donate now wg So they can have their own plane
help wg built their own plane by buying those crates
There is a huge ping and packet loss in Eu server
buy 10% crates and wg will get 100% plane
1 crate = 1 plane piece, how much plane do they get?
Do u experince this issue too?
Maybe a 1cm square
that looks like boeing 747, most popular plane
Eu Server on full alert !!! Ping and lag wave !!!⚠ ⚠
Then don't play....simple
So i was watching the stream and the guys said they want to make the tech tree more logical
laughs in american
Super Conqueror, Badger, Obj 268 V4 in the future possibly
v4 da gud for game da
Not the obj.....😶
Superconq maybe Badger hopefully V4 please no
Hamilton>raikkonen upss
raikkonen=nah, Sumaher= yes
sa
Can wg actually remove the -r2k- clan and his bots....i mean cmon....
delete salty pramo players leave the nice ones :p
It can, and lets delete toxic Pramo lol
türküm
@jovial kernel just search -r2k-....
1 game, 4 fv 183... wish me succes
unlike R2K I meet pramo every third match and 9 times out of 10 they will get salty at your for literally just driving within 50m of them if you're on their team
@jovial kernel dude... -r2k- has lower than 40 wr overall
lolwtf
Look for urself...eu clan...cant search now cause busy
I'm on NA so idk
Keep this on topic
Wont the changes in 5.5 cause more inexperienced players too get into higher tiers
@trim quarry I think... they will come to tier 5 and face/play TDs without knowing how to play/play against it
and kv-2 at tier 6
@trim quarry more kills
without any knowledge of derp guns, they will probably think "oh this tank has a small gun it should be easy to kill" and then get one-shotted by it
Lol
another reason to keep hetzer derp gun even though it is a nightmare for newbs
@unique scaffold but even so if tier 6 tanks can be researched easier than they will move up easier creating headaches for us in the higher tiers
honestly, low tier derps are a way to prepare the new players to higher tier matches
but if you move up to fast then they wont be ready
yes they will have to face 183s one day, unless they quit because they can't progress past tier 8
When is 5.5 coming
mid november
I think that special MM (beginners only face beginners) was a good and sufficient idea...no need to destroy low tiers :C
Kv2 should come with a warning sign lol. So many people I've one shotted wondering wtf just happened. It was already most played tank, but after the change it will become part of the line to the is4...
Yo la team
this FV?
Im going to get kv2 just to one shot newbs
i already have it
you could get a hetzer or a t-82, both are as good and easyer to get
Been there, done that. Played 1300 games in it at 65%, but after a while it got repetitive
Hetzer and t82 are worse, neither can one shot as well as kv, and neither have armour as all-round good as the kv2
KV-2 can't one shot it misses like every shot
then you not masterd the kv-2
kv-2 can't oneshot the tier 7 heavies either
But can scare s h ii t out them
Try the t82 or hetzer against dw2s and kv1s, you'll do worse.
KV-2 is a crutch tank for players who can't put down damage in a normal tank. It's the artillery of blitz. An RNG slot machine that negates skill.
it can you just have too pick out carefully where you shoot them@mellow cape
it's also a fun tank tho
Who wants arty back
@trim quarry no it can't, max roll is 1200 and most t7 heavies have more HP than that
@unique scaffold wrong, you need the skill to pick your shots carefully, since you take 22s to reload. You need the brains to keep yourself alive since 50% of the time you'll be in the middle of a long reload
@unique scaffold not totally wrong, usually when u see a KV-2 he’s camping in a TD position, choose 1 innocent light, one Shot it and get destroyed...
KV-2 can pen stock tiger cupola oof
the problem is hitting that thing
Won't hit said cupola in a million years though
@mellow cape the heavies i agree with but the light and some medium tanks are still fare game, even if it cant one shot tier 7 heavies, loosing 1200 hp in one shot is F*** scary
Why they nerf old tanks and make *hit on playerbase from years 2014-16]
I actually have hit it stock tiger cupola is massive
well I have sniped a ELC across the map on desert sands moving at full speed on a kv-2
@odd girder because they want money they want more players to play so that they can make more money
Same argument gets used by artillery players on other platforms... "Hurr Durr It's hard because I have to think really hard before I shoot. Then I have to think super hard about who to shoot next after my 20 second reload."
You lucky...
you can even kill 2 tanks with one shot on kv-2, it has splash damage
Oof
slash damage is rare but its very fun
@viscid granite
@unique scaffold in the kv2 you can't carry from the back, you need to front line it, unlike arty. You also can't take damage early on or you'll be useless if it comes down to you Vs multiple reds. @mellow cape yep, I did it once
@trim quarry Thank you... this game going to hell
Nah
hey atleast we don't have artillery with 2000 alpha on AP shells
Balance the 183s Camo pls
New camos
@atomic hound actually 2% of KV-2’s players know how 2 play it, what’s frustrating is when the unskilled enemy choose u and one shot u RNGfully then gets rekt
@odd girder yep 5.5 is gonna cause some major problems for higher plyers and older players. that said, does historical accuracy mean nothing to these people?
I have idea
War Thunder
Batchat had a 17 round autoloader irl, what's your point?
@unique scaffold while I get what you mean, if you expose yourself when you can see there is a kv2 on the enemy team, it is your own fault if you get one shotted, no matter how lucky they got.
@atomic hound What I hate is when they blind-shot me...
@atomic hound say that to the ELC I sniped from across the map
@trim quarry This game started in good way... fast tank battles very similar to PC version, but now??? Blitz and classic PC version will be very very different
Still the elc's fault. I've never once been one shotted in a tier 5 or 6 by a kv2 except whilst driving one, because in everything else there is no need to take the risk.
i tell you its because all they want is money@odd girder
and 5.5 update will be just another weird step
does that mean you should just camp in spawn because "theres a kv-2 on the enemy team?"
@atomic hound I sometimes got blind-shot in my Nashorn, so frustrating
nah just play carefully and attack on reload
@odd girder the wrong step
@mellow cape absolutely not, but you can take up positions that kv2s can't hit you in.
and to get to those positions, you have to expose yourself especially on open maps
true
@atomic hound ofc u right just play carefully and you’ll not get OS
Frustrating when it OS u, but not OP
@trim quarry Just agree eith you man
@unique scaffold the tank is lethal to people either not paying attention, or people unaware of what it can do, but against experienced players it often struggles because just hitting them becomes very difficult.
@atomic hound thats why you play as much as you can to master it and only shoot when you are 80% sure it will hit
@atomic hound. We aren't talking about the same players. You're talking about the 20% who play it right. I'm talking about the 80% who don't. The 80% who have a 40% win-rate and the KV-2 as their most played tank. The ones who only move from spawn to the nearest red line or bush. The ones use use PC auto aim to one shot some poor guy from across the map and the type "Jajajajaja" over global. Those are the KV-2 players I'm talking about.
@unique scaffold yeah so painful
Kv2 needs a nerf
I think the best way to help new players would be to have more advanced tutorials like one about camo, angling your armor, autoloaders etc
@unique scaffold they're fodder for us decent players, even easier to kill than other noobs because of that reload and accuracy. If you're 40% too and get OSed then I can understand the salt, but if you're 60%+ there is no reason to complain. Same deal with the 183.
There is no reason why a tier 6 tank should be one shorting same tier tanks
MM needs to be fixed also
I got into a tier 10 battle with my Churchill I >:T
@unique scaffold does pc auto aim even work that well, i paly it on pc but i never use auto aim, its ridicules
KV-2 needs to have the Velocity of the hundred 52 mm gun substantially there. That way it has to be played Frontline and will be completely ineffective as a red line sniper.
@severe valve there is no reason why a tier 6 tank should be one shooting tier 7 tanks >:T
True
Panther ll needs more armour
@unique scaffold if its a light tank then there is no reason to complain but i do agree if it can one shot the IS then it might be a tiny problem
@trim quarry it can one shot the Chi-Ri >:V
@trim quarry PC autoaim locks on to center mass and leads the target for the user. For most tanks this isn't that effective. For the KV-2 it is very effective.
I actually prefer mobile autoaim because it locks to hull weak spots if you aim for them
@unique scaffold but that tanks is not crap but not good. @unique scaffold thanks for the advise i will try it but i doubt i will stick with it i like to be in control of my own tank
What will Happen to my pz 2 j? If they remove Premium ammo it gets useless
That is why I think it needs a substantial velocity Nerf. Make it so that it can't be used effectively as a sniper. Players who play it correctly will barely notice a change to the velocity.
it keeps the prammo dude no worries, it's actually getting a buff since tier 3 TDs are getting delet
@trim quarry but it can also do with Comet, T-43, VK 30.02 D, T20...
@unique scaffold pz2j isn't losing premium ammo, all tier 3s keep their premium ammo, but lose HE
No more HE spam in T1E6?!
There is no more reason to play :C
@atomic hound thanks :)
@unique scaffold i am following what you are saying but could you explain more about how the velocity of a shot works pls
@unique scaffold that is what makes the KV-2 so famous is its power will you want to wait 20 sec for a weak ass shot, but those tanks can pierce the kv-2 armour with ease right?
The Vk 30.01 D needs buff bad. Terrible armour, bad gun...
@junior tulip yes pure crap
@trim quarry it’s so frustrating...but not OP so I don’t ask for a nerf
NERF WZ-120-1G FT.
240mm of penetration, medium tank manoeuvrability, strong armour
@atomic hound them what about the su-76I it will be a pain without HE
@trim quarry a slow shell velocity means it is very hard to hit moving targets without lead (which takes skill). The su76i was overpowered anyway, so I honestly wouldn't mind if the lack of HE hurt it, though I don't think it will.
laughs in BT-7 art keeping HE shells with un nerfed penetration
nah the most op aspect of the chinese td is the camo
Oh, one thing I've not seen mentioned yet is that it will be virtually impossible to destroy modules in low tier tanks because the vast majority are having their module damage reduced to 1 or 2
cries in derpless Panzer IV
@atomic hound why tho
@unique scaffold they cant nerf it because its too popular
@atomic hound so velocity is the speed of the shot.... ok i see what you mean i very rarly shoot from that far away, the closer you are to your target the better. i have the su76i, it wont hurt it to much but i use HE for light tanks because it scares them away its gonna be a pain dealing with them now
@plush umbra best ask the Devs, but I suspect it is to stop noobs having their tanks become undrivable due to being shredded by autoloaders
yeah that is true
@trim quarry yes they can bcz WG is OP
@unique scaffold su76i has a very good traverse speed, light tanks shouldn't bother you
@atomic hound wat
Why u talking me about SU-76I
Mistake, sorry
@atomic hound i agree with that, the Leopard is a huge pain especially in low tiers but you have to learn how to counter them.
@atomic hound light tanks bother me a lot and the su76i traverse speed ain't that fast
Then play light tanks
@unique scaffold they would get alot of hate if they remove the KV-2
@trim quarry use the increased traverse module and stick near walls. If I can grind up through all the AT tanks with over 60% wr in all of them, you can drive something with tier for tier better armour, and way better mobility I should hope!
At line makes me angry
@trim quarry they’re already removing most of lower tiers...
@junior tulip believe me i tried but i just cant not enough armour
Please do not use the term cancer in vain.
Yeah mr donut, but watch yo languege
@jovial kernel even the hull itself is dodgy on most of them.
yeah machine gun ports
The Panzer 3/4 is good. Until you get the VK 30.01 D, which is actually trash. It needs a buff bad, either a faster gun, or better hull armor
Why is this timer so long. @cedar mist Weren’t you gonna ask if they could move it to 20 seconds?
or give it the short 88
@unique scaffold if they remove the KV-2 then i am deleting this game
I did, but WG have said since these are the more important channels they won't be reducing it as they don't want it to get flooded.
@junior tulip VK 30.01 D, VK 30.02 D, Indien-Panzer and Leo PT A are all trash.
Better grind the SP 1 C
Fair point
@cedar mist of course there would be more important channels than game balance discussion ahaha
The whole Chat with Devs section.
@unique scaffold i agree they are but they are fodder for other tanks
I have issues with most medium tanks at tier7 at penning the gravediggers from the side
VK 100.01 might potentially break tier 8 just a little bit
Pls nerf IS-4
why
@jovial kernel 128 mm gun on tier 8 heavy :v
T-150 should have stayed in the tech tree. The KV-2 should have become a collectible tank at Tier 7. Kv-2 to KV-3 makes no sense. It should be KV-1 to T-150 to KV-3.
KV-2 should be a side tank like it always was
the KV-2 is a fun tank and keeping noobs from getting their hands on it would be bad for the game
160mm hull armor (front) and it is stronger then 250mm?
Nah, make it a collectible and then sell it every 3 or 4 months. WG would make 💰💰💰
@unique scaffold why? i really have no love for the T-150
@jovial kernel i think if noobs cant get their hands on the KV-2 it would be a good thing depending on if they are ally or enemy
@unique scaffold I don't think wargaming have ever made a premium tank with huge alpha, and I hope they never will. It would obviously sell very well, but I think it would also ruin it's tier
SU-100Y
Hell they might make so much 💰💰💰 that they'd be able to pay someone to fix the Fury tank model.
@trim quarrybecause the play style is similar. KV-1 to T-150 makes way more sense then KV-1 to KV-2.
@plush umbra the one exception then. But there is a big difference between 530 and 960
true
I actually rarely play my KV-2 tbh it isn't really useful unless you are a really lucky player. The T-150 is a very strong yet balanced tank I'd say but it's less fun than the KV-2. Then again if I like pulling the slot machine lever and one shotting people I might as well play the Tankenstein which got more one shots in a night than my KV-2 got in a month.
@atomic hound one could argue that the KV-2 already ruins it's tier. Might as well profit from it.
@unique scaffold it dont destroy the tier, its a Well Balanced tank
@manic dawn it depends on how you angle the armour
@atomic hound i agree
@unique scaffold i dont agree completely the t-150 cant even compete with its own tier the only place it is somewhat strong is in a tier 5 game where as the KV-1 dominates its own tier and abit of the higher tiers
@unique scaffold🤣
you wanna hear well balanced? WZ-120-1 FT
@unique scaffold If a kv2 Shoots u get 20 sek to destroy it
yeah but if you srew up then you are screwed
also it does only 350 damage 90% of the time it hits
@unique scaffold not when it one shots you from across the map.
wanna hear balanced. not wot blitz
@jovial kernel the kv-2 or t-150?
@jovial kernel LMOA DONUT
I've never actually seen a KV-2 ever one shot someone from across the map unless both tanks were sitting still
Thats luck because it has a Very bad accuracy @unique scaffold
@jovial kernel bro then you have to and buy it and play with it abit and you will see
I own one and don't play it lmao it sucks I'll drive my T-34-85 gulag wagon
@jovial kernel i bought the menacing camo because i Love my kv2
me too
@unique scaffold. That's my point. It is a skill less tank that allows luck to negate skill. It is a RNG slot machine that rewards bad players.
either that or it screws them worse
@unique scaffold If u know how to use it, you hit most of your shots
@jovial kernel i have oneshot a kuro moro mine in the side from full hp
@jovial kernel bro play some platoon with a pro KV-2 player and it will show a whole other side of the kv-2
@unique scaffold i just wish the camo was a different colour
excusemewhat
its very strong in the hand of a good player
And a crutch for poor players.
Even a 183 cant do that
my T-34-85 gulag wagon actually is more enjoyable to play because watching a KV-2 shell miss is hilariously agonizing
oh look its dmg
@jovial kernel well it depends on what you enjoy if you enjoy that tank then its up to you as long as your having fun
there are many crutch tanks that are worse for the game than the KV-2, the only difference is this one's tech tree
What is wrong with its tech tree?
@jovial kernel jeah but its easy to kill
only if its a noob player
KV-2 is an easy kill 90% of the time, and one of the few tanks with turrets that can actually be circled without being able to shoot back. Honestly if I have more than 500 HP in a non light tank I rush KV-2s
@jovial kernel you can circle any tank if u have a fast tank
@jovial kernel how many times did that work out well😂
@unique scaffold that tactic is a PAIN
not without it shooting back unless it's tracked.
@trim quarry u can easy avoid that If u bring your ass against a wall
i will i try but it doesnt always work
@trim quarry why Not?
sometimes there is no wall
@plush umbra then u are are bad player
@unique scaffold because they stop right behind me when i go backwards and the sides are just as weak as the back
or ppl are just too good. i aggree that it is a bad idea to sit in the open. but some players do
@plush umbra losing is how they learn
that is true
very ture
@unique scaffold keep telling yourself that next time you play with a 40% player with 20k battles...
@atomic hound wtf 40%???!!!!
no offence but personally i wouldn't call myself a bad player with 6.300 battles and 55% wr. just average
@unique scaffold hahaha, happens all the time, don't act so surprised!
@plush umbra i got over 60% but i dont feel like im that good
I've got 14k at 59.5%
yeah. 40% is very common. i have had a few ppl below 30
@atomic hound thats is whats gonna more after update 5.5
@atomic hound in low tier maybe
@plush umbra sry for u
@trim quarry i Hope so
@plush umbra average is 48-49% , at 55% you're doing well dude
@unique scaffold take a look at your team next time you play tier ten.
@unique scaffold why that would that would be bad if they are on your team
thx. it is my only acc so a lot of losses in low tiers because i didn't know what i was doing but it does show my total capabillities
@atomic hound i can See there win rate by seeing how they Play 😂
@trim quarry not on my team
yeah but remeber they will always find a way into your team
yeah
Question: does anyone feel the T110E5 needs a small buff or does it feel right as it is? It’s my most played tier 10. I just feel it’s a little sub par compared to the other heavies like the IS-4 etc...
i personally dont, it feels like a decent&balanced heavy to me (over 1k battles)
@visual nimbus a bit of turret armour
@visual nimbus turret is a bit too weak lol and DPM isnt best
Hmmmm Interesting.... I wonder what War Gaming thinks.
Actually I'm kindda ok with the current dpm
T49 is great tank#
Xoxy#1426 was muted
1700 games and nice HE
in close range E100 can pen upper plate of E5, needs buff
Indeed needed
I could see where it needs a buff to it’s armor all around. mostly turret.
when E5 need buff, E100 too, cuz now 340mm pen HEAT can pen angled E100 turret, to bounce this shell you need hide 1 side of your turret
Not really.....proper angled e100 can bounce jge100s heat
but need hide 1 side of turret, cuz max armor on both sides is 330, yes there can be more, but then other side have less effective armor
T49 HE shouldn't be premium ammo, running this thing is very hard to even break even
Shoot more heat
@atomic hound I agree. @spiral belfry I think you meant "bounce" more HEAT.
not on side or back of german heavies
I've seen HEAT bounce in the most ridiculous of ways.
@spiral belfry against IS spam all you have is HE unless you manage to get all the way behind... Which is risky.
If I've worked my way to a perfect shot in the T49 I'm not going to risk a BS bounce with HEAT. I'm using HE. I've learned that the hard way.
yes the T49 should just be a prammo-less gun with HE and HEAT as both standard
I don't see why the t49 should have ridiculously expensive HE when for every other tank in the game it is cheaper than AP.
actually KV-2 HE is more expensive than AP. the HE on the T49 does cost too much tho
It should be more expensive I'm tired of seeing nooobs drive it spamming heat and doing 0 dmg per game