#tank-balance-discussion | WoT Blitz Official | Page 93

lone warren Oct 31, 2018, 3:53 PM

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Tier 8 playing as a light is more manageable but still

near pagoda Oct 31, 2018, 3:53 PM

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They won’t touch them @obtuse atlas look at how Kenny is protected when other less OP tanks aren’t

obtuse atlas Oct 31, 2018, 3:53 PM

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maybe you should ***

twilit crystal Oct 31, 2018, 3:54 PM

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ru251 has better dpm than any medium tank at tier 8

modest prairie Oct 31, 2018, 3:54 PM

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F u ck it I quit

lone warren Oct 31, 2018, 3:54 PM

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ru251 has a unique gun

stiff osprey Oct 31, 2018, 3:54 PM

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I like the fact we grind hard to be destroyed by prems thx wargaming for hellsing crates and gravediggers

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unique scaffold Oct 31, 2018, 3:54 PM

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Rly

high shale Oct 31, 2018, 3:55 PM

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@stiff ospreyLOL

obtuse atlas Oct 31, 2018, 3:55 PM

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@stiff osprey gg its indeed horrible

near pagoda Oct 31, 2018, 3:55 PM

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@stiff osprey That’s the norm now

stiff osprey Oct 31, 2018, 3:55 PM

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it hurts

lone warren Oct 31, 2018, 3:55 PM

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i enjoyed playing my tier seven lights before now look lmao dont touch the tier unless im grinding

unique scaffold Oct 31, 2018, 3:56 PM

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I enjoy the t49 and its super fun on mad games, pressing the Irradiator and Oneshotting a light tank or med

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I do believe the HE alpha goes up to 1600 with Irradiator

near pagoda Oct 31, 2018, 3:57 PM

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@lone warren There’s no Tier that you can play now for fun when 5.5, 1-4 All nerfed so it’s a playschool sportsday, 5,6,7,8 ruined by novelty tanks, and 9/10 too serious. Where can you just roll out and enjoy a decent battle?

twilit crystal Oct 31, 2018, 3:57 PM

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around 1500

fossil crag Oct 31, 2018, 3:58 PM

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I have fun in 9 and 10. It’s not always serious.

unique scaffold Oct 31, 2018, 3:58 PM

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Btw i think the T49 is just too nerfed

lone warren Oct 31, 2018, 3:58 PM

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pfft id be lucky to not get a raging bot at tier nine or ten

near pagoda Oct 31, 2018, 3:59 PM

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@fossil crag True but the levels of salt and abuse means more often than not it’s no fun at all.

obtuse atlas Oct 31, 2018, 4:00 PM

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@near pagoda ssshhh or they will remove global chat

unique scaffold Oct 31, 2018, 4:00 PM

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Because, wg didnt need to nerf the alpha, they needed to nerf the MODULE ALPHA DAMAGE. That way, you do lots of dmg without damaging too many modules and then, the T49 can be fun once again

fossil crag Oct 31, 2018, 4:00 PM

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Here’s the main question: How do you define a “decent” battle? Is a decent battle where you stomp on noobies in your OP Tier 2-5 premium tank? Is it a decent battle because the skill at lower tiers isn’t as high so you feel like you’re doing good? I can say every game I play, win or lose, at Tier 9/10 is a decent battle.

lone warren Oct 31, 2018, 4:00 PM

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and the lack of enforcement means it continues.. i see players with 600 complaints who only get a slap on the wrist you might aswell say the hard r everygame and it would probs take a month minimum for them to take action

near pagoda Oct 31, 2018, 4:01 PM

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@obtuse atlas I forgot one must not speak out against the overlords!

unique scaffold Oct 31, 2018, 4:01 PM

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EXACTLY. They nerfed the alpha dmg and the whole problem was solved somehow

near pagoda Oct 31, 2018, 4:02 PM

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@fossil crag Nope, I like close battles, evenly matched where individual tank strengths come into play and excellent teamwork gets you through, 7-0 drubbings are just sad in my book

lone warren Oct 31, 2018, 4:02 PM

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Imagine if +2/-2 mm was still a thing and tier fives would go against tier 7 op tanks lmao

unique scaffold Oct 31, 2018, 4:03 PM

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@gleaming light why does it deals 560 HEAT dmg? Usually regular rounds 150mm deals 640

lone warren Oct 31, 2018, 4:03 PM

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dracula vs kv1 wHo WiLl WiN

twilit crystal Oct 31, 2018, 4:03 PM

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i still remember the good old t49a days

unique scaffold Oct 31, 2018, 4:04 PM

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@gleaming light but it should have 640

sand olive Oct 31, 2018, 4:05 PM

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quick question, is the tier 9 gun of Tiger II worth it? cuz it costs lots of xp to research

unique scaffold Oct 31, 2018, 4:05 PM

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Even the PC T49 had low alpha for its shells. Instead for 750, it had 700 for the HEAT Instead for the typical 960, it had 910.

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@sand olive Yes, it's worth it

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 4:05 PM

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640 would be too much for the t49

sand olive Oct 31, 2018, 4:05 PM

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I don't see many differences and I like the tier 8 one

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 4:06 PM

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You’d have to lower the rate of fire way too much for blitz

unique scaffold Oct 31, 2018, 4:06 PM

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And why the KampfPanzer 70 has 560 too?

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Because of BALANCING REASONS

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@sand olive Ok, I have Tier 9 gun in my Tiger II

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 4:07 PM

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@unique scaffold imagine a 20 second reload on a t49

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That’s your balance

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640 alpha = super long reload

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560 = manageable reload

unique scaffold Oct 31, 2018, 4:08 PM

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Dont care, i have had 18,5 on my blitz T49

jade cargoBOT Oct 31, 2018, 4:08 PM

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dynoSuccess Dominik#3212 has been warned.

lone warren Oct 31, 2018, 4:08 PM

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i have had like a 40 sec reload before was fun

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 4:09 PM

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You guys forget that the t49 isn’t a td. If you give the t49 640 alpha it’ll splash a t54 lightweight for 300 and then the t49 will die because of the reload length

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If you don’t pen your shot with a t49 every other light and medium will kill you before you fire your third shot

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This is the 4th time I’ve been in a t49 debate

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It just happens

lone warren Oct 31, 2018, 4:10 PM

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i love when a t49 misses and i HE it to death in my ru

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 4:10 PM

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Exactly

unique scaffold Oct 31, 2018, 4:11 PM

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Another T49 debate.... Geez get a new topic folks.

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 4:11 PM

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T49 is high risk high reward

unique scaffold Oct 31, 2018, 4:11 PM

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@lone warren the 102 mm HE pen ❤ Ru 251

lone warren Oct 31, 2018, 4:11 PM

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big off when you roll 300+ on HE

unique scaffold Oct 31, 2018, 4:11 PM

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Let's talk about how the Fury is missing its machine guns!🤣

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Too bad I advanced on to the leo pta I HATE IT SO MUCH

lone warren Oct 31, 2018, 4:12 PM

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Same ru is one of my most played but couldnt enjoy pta even when i fully upgraded it

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 4:12 PM

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PTA is a good tank

unique scaffold Oct 31, 2018, 4:12 PM

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Cz?

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PTA is total crap

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 4:12 PM

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Just need to be passive and fully upgraded

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Not at all

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PTA is quite good if you play it right

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I have 2850 in mine

gloomy dragon Oct 31, 2018, 4:13 PM

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Very specific skillset needed though

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 4:13 PM

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^^^

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No

ember thunder Oct 31, 2018, 4:13 PM

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Pta is excellent in right hands and fully upgraded

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 4:13 PM

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It’s fine as is

unique scaffold Oct 31, 2018, 4:13 PM

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Struggles reaching 40 kph,HUGE Target with no armor, bad turret traverse speed and gun dep

gloomy dragon Oct 31, 2018, 4:14 PM

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I got in the groove after 300 games. Lost it since i havent played it in a year.

lone warren Oct 31, 2018, 4:14 PM

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What i liked about the pta was rolling 400+ on kids

fossil crag Oct 31, 2018, 4:14 PM

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If PTA got more gun depression then you would have AMX 30 Prototype 2.0 but with a better gun.

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 4:14 PM

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Nope

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Just play it differently

fossil crag Oct 31, 2018, 4:14 PM

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Does the tank need more or do you need that extra gun depression?

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 4:15 PM

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Wz120 is a good example of this

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Smart players find ways to use the tank

unique scaffold Oct 31, 2018, 4:15 PM

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Chinese tanks are worthless

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 4:15 PM

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Others find excuses

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Chinese tanks are amazing lol

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121 is lovely

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113 is a monster

fossil crag Oct 31, 2018, 4:15 PM

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121Beast ❤

ember thunder Oct 31, 2018, 4:16 PM

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Comet

unique scaffold Oct 31, 2018, 4:16 PM

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If they’re amazing, so russian are OP and the game is broken
WZ-113 is a med ._.

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I’m looking forward to the introduction of the WZ-111-5A. Its one of the best tanks in the PC

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Basically a Tier 8 brought to tier 10. What an idea

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Ye and a big boom too

ember thunder Oct 31, 2018, 4:17 PM

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🆒

unique scaffold Oct 31, 2018, 4:17 PM

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@gleaming light how much?
Anyways IS-7 better

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130mm with better depression and dpm. 240mm everywhere on front and very fast.

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 4:19 PM

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113 > is7 all day long

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5a is an is7 with dpm

unique scaffold Oct 31, 2018, 4:20 PM

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The WZ-111-5A does struggle with other T10 but is Way better facing T9

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HERESY
WZ-113 isn’t even an heavy, weak armor, very bad gun, Bad manœuverability...
@gleaming light DPM means so little
@quick lichen how much armor at Front

fossil crag Oct 31, 2018, 4:21 PM

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5A and 113 have pretty much the same DPM, very small difference. One has lower alpha higher rate of fire, the other has higher alpha and slower reload. The armor difference is in the play style. 113 has a flat plate while 5A has a pike. 113 gains armor when angling front, 5A loses armor. But they both have weak lower plates.

unique scaffold Oct 31, 2018, 4:21 PM

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@gleaming light yes like an IS-4 but without armor

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Ye it has 230-240 when not angled. When hulldown and LPF concealed, it has 280 on hull and 300 on turret

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I’m gonna check that
@gleaming light who cares about its accuracy ? It can’t pen anything and won’t bounce many shots

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The hull shape is shaped like an IS-3

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The best is that even though it is very low profile it has 7 degrees of gun depression. Very good for a soviet design tank

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 4:24 PM

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I have no problem with the 113 other than the traverse

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I’m sure panda would agree that it’s a good tank ¯_(ツ)_/¯

unique scaffold Oct 31, 2018, 4:25 PM

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How bad is the LFP

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The 5A has some armor, but worse than an IS-7 anyways

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The chinese heavies have weak LFPs how many have noticed that?

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 4:27 PM

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What tank doesn’t have a weak lower plate?😂

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Other than the 50b

lapis shadow Oct 31, 2018, 4:28 PM

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Idk LOL

unique scaffold Oct 31, 2018, 4:28 PM

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The Chinese have TERRIBLE lower plates. I know that first hand.

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 4:28 PM

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That’s like complaining about rear armor on American tanks

lapis shadow Oct 31, 2018, 4:28 PM

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Umm Obj 270 (e), oh wait, that’s on Pc OOF

unique scaffold Oct 31, 2018, 4:29 PM

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it doesn’t have a lower plate lul

fossil crag Oct 31, 2018, 4:29 PM

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113 is great, that’s why every top clan uses it in tournaments. If it was bad, we wouldn’t be playing so many of them.

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 4:30 PM

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Exactly

lapis shadow Oct 31, 2018, 4:30 PM

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True

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 4:30 PM

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You’re not supposed to show your lower plate in ANY tank

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Except the 50b

lapis shadow Oct 31, 2018, 4:32 PM

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But the 50B turret armour is pathetic

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 4:32 PM

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Don’t show the turret

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Bait shots with the hull

unique scaffold Oct 31, 2018, 4:32 PM

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The object 268 version 4 can show its LFP. It has 290 mm of armor there LOL

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 4:32 PM

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Clip tanks that aren’t looking at you

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V4 is broken. And it’s not in blitz so it’s not relevant to your point

lapis shadow Oct 31, 2018, 4:33 PM

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I just need to buy it then I finally got my second ever Tier 10 OOF

unique scaffold Oct 31, 2018, 4:33 PM

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It has been nerfed!

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 4:33 PM

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It’s not on blitz

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Also. It’s was game breakingly op. Of course it was nerfed

lapis shadow Oct 31, 2018, 4:34 PM

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That Russia for you

fossil crag Oct 31, 2018, 4:34 PM

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Took them 4 months to nerf it lol

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 4:34 PM

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Had to make sure it was broken panda

unique scaffold Oct 31, 2018, 4:35 PM

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I do believe it was from patch 9.22 to 1.02

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 4:35 PM

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Needed a bigger sample size

small flame Oct 31, 2018, 4:36 PM

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To whoever is making fun of the model 5a I have close to 6000 battles in it in PC with 62% wr

fossil crag Oct 31, 2018, 4:36 PM

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It was so bad that top clans in clan wars were making agreements to only have a maximum of 3 on the team 😂

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Otherwise it was 10 V4s and 5 907s

small flame Oct 31, 2018, 4:39 PM

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That nerf was so necessary

lapis shadow Oct 31, 2018, 4:40 PM

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Oof

sleek cobalt Oct 31, 2018, 4:43 PM

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Jumbo good tank why remove owo

minor grail Oct 31, 2018, 4:43 PM

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Idk

lapis shadow Oct 31, 2018, 4:43 PM

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Annoying on the armour?

minor grail Oct 31, 2018, 4:44 PM

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Amx 50B need buff for side armor

sleek cobalt Oct 31, 2018, 4:44 PM

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it is not hard to pen :c

minor grail Oct 31, 2018, 4:45 PM

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Too many HE bullets get in there

sleek cobalt Oct 31, 2018, 4:45 PM

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France is glass cannon tanks.

gloomy dragon Oct 31, 2018, 4:46 PM

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I just peg it in WG screwing up things as usual for the sake of "dynamic" gameplay, @sleek cobalt

sleek cobalt Oct 31, 2018, 4:47 PM

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The Jumbo is a good tank, Im selling the T21 once the update comes out, but The jumbo can't pen another jumbo very easily and someone called the jumbo broken frontally that is. Im going to keep the jumBO forever. probably because they are removing bridge tanks like the Jumbo and KV-13.

gloomy dragon Oct 31, 2018, 4:48 PM

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It's an okay tank imo. People only complain about it cuz theyre either people who own it and use top turret or people who dont and dont know how to flank and beat it in dpm.

sleek cobalt Oct 31, 2018, 4:51 PM

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5.5s reload is a solid tank, good pen but it lacks speed so it a very solid tank, you either make money with it or lose money with it

small flame Oct 31, 2018, 4:52 PM

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If you’re looking for a tier 6 American medium with good armor look no further than the thunderbolt 7

vapid isle Oct 31, 2018, 5:28 PM

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The what

minor grail Oct 31, 2018, 5:28 PM

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Vk.45.02 a need buff for armour and more penetration at top gun

languid bronze Oct 31, 2018, 5:30 PM

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remove 183

vapid isle Oct 31, 2018, 5:30 PM

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Nooooo

small flame Oct 31, 2018, 5:35 PM

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if you think the VKA needs an armor buff then youre badd?dont know how to play it

coarse harness Oct 31, 2018, 5:42 PM

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Maybe learn to play against it🤷🏻‍♂️

minor grail Oct 31, 2018, 5:56 PM

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@native siren I’m playing at this tank and more 122 caliber can pen my tower

prime oracle Oct 31, 2018, 6:13 PM

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No need to remove 183 just nerf the hesh and ap pen

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 6:13 PM

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Uh what

crisp maple Oct 31, 2018, 6:14 PM

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Why you want to remove fv?

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 6:14 PM

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It’s not viable for blitz

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Nor are Japanese heavies

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Nor are arties

unique scaffold Oct 31, 2018, 6:15 PM

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The toptier hevies are the most filthy

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 6:15 PM

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But that’s me

prime oracle Oct 31, 2018, 6:16 PM

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Pen a heavy tank in it's front with hesh is just ridiculous

minor grail Oct 31, 2018, 6:16 PM

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Omg why u would like to remove fv

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 6:16 PM

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Because I want to end td spam

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And to balance the game

unique scaffold Oct 31, 2018, 6:16 PM

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Well, i play tds for the good AP pen

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 6:16 PM

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You and everyone else

minor grail Oct 31, 2018, 6:17 PM

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Wait
Buger is more unbalanced

prime oracle Oct 31, 2018, 6:17 PM

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2 years ago tier 10 was about medium gameplay now it's just td game play

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 6:17 PM

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Exactly

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Camping in the back. Unspotted. Ruining people’s games

unique scaffold Oct 31, 2018, 6:17 PM

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Ye ppl sit at the back of the map apart from.......nothing

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 6:17 PM

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You can’t spot without getting hit for half health

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You can’t rush without getting punished

minor grail Oct 31, 2018, 6:18 PM

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Yep and u reload 20s

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 6:18 PM

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High tier = camp fest or yolo fest

unique scaffold Oct 31, 2018, 6:18 PM

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Anyone own a completely overpowered premium?

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 6:18 PM

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@minor grail you forget about the other three tds

prime oracle Oct 31, 2018, 6:18 PM

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Yeah only 20sec so when you Finnaly spotted him and hit him once maybe twice your dead

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 6:18 PM

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Exactly

prime oracle Oct 31, 2018, 6:19 PM

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Grille has a worse cammo rating then the 183 who is as big as a house... Any bells tinkling?

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 6:19 PM

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Grille needs it’s speed back

unique scaffold Oct 31, 2018, 6:20 PM

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The PC grille is as fast as fast mediums

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 6:20 PM

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50 kph is good

minor grail Oct 31, 2018, 6:20 PM

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Yes I know but for me the best’s tanks td is ob263 (need buff for yoke armour) grille 15 (not need nothing) at pc u have 1km x 1km map

unique scaffold Oct 31, 2018, 6:21 PM

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How about 60kmph? @quick lichen

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 6:21 PM

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263 doesn’t need a buff

inner comet Oct 31, 2018, 6:21 PM

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Raikspony

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 6:21 PM

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Grille used to have 50 kph

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Awful traverse

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Now bad camo and an he magnet

minor grail Oct 31, 2018, 6:22 PM

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Yes always use at me in Ob 263 premium bullets

unique scaffold Oct 31, 2018, 6:22 PM

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Ppl what should a T110E4 do? I tried city brawling and campsniping and Both works fine. Which one is best?

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 6:23 PM

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E4 is good as is I think

inner comet Oct 31, 2018, 6:23 PM

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Depends on the Situation

unique scaffold Oct 31, 2018, 6:24 PM

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I like the E4 its the only T10 i have

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Ive clocked 6k games, though not on this acc

minor grail Oct 31, 2018, 6:27 PM

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Rudy need buff for armor at tower

umbral fern Oct 31, 2018, 6:28 PM

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Rudy is pretty good in my opinion

minor grail Oct 31, 2018, 6:29 PM

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Yes it is but in one place have weak point (yoke)

umbral fern Oct 31, 2018, 6:30 PM

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It's still very good all round so it's perfectly accaptable to have a weak spot

minor grail Oct 31, 2018, 6:31 PM

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Ok u have big pot at tower

umbral fern Oct 31, 2018, 6:32 PM

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Still one weakness is nothing to fret at.

I mean look at any other tank and you'll see so many weaknesses

twin meadow Oct 31, 2018, 6:34 PM

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Rudy are good tank. If he can have the gun of the victory it's a pleasure too😋

umbral fern Oct 31, 2018, 6:35 PM

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It's already a great tank
No need to make it better

minor grail Oct 31, 2018, 6:36 PM

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Ok

twin meadow Oct 31, 2018, 6:37 PM

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I think if u want to buff a tank, it's the engine of the panther2

umbral fern Oct 31, 2018, 6:40 PM

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No...just no

polar grotto Oct 31, 2018, 6:44 PM

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Man i canmt believe wg hasn’t nerfed WZ-120-1gft yet it’s by far the most OP tank right, and yes it’s a neccessary nerf even though it’s premium and people payed for it, can’t believe people keep nagging about helsing being OP like have u even met a WZ-120-1g ft because then u should know how OP it is. Over 60% overall wr is what the tank has and almost 2000 average dmg even though so many noobs drive it, this is absolutely insane and it ruins the matchmaker

devout sluice Oct 31, 2018, 6:45 PM

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I dont think its too op. Idk what server u are on but on the NA server there are not that many of them in battles

twin meadow Oct 31, 2018, 6:48 PM

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Ie server don't have so much too. But it's quite op

spark orchid Oct 31, 2018, 6:49 PM

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I'd like to see centurion (also 7/1) with at least 50kmh top-speed, it's a real struggle to do the spotting w/40kmh and quick retreating is almost impossible 😂

umbral fern Oct 31, 2018, 6:49 PM

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It really is. Unless you have russian bias on your side

prime oracle Oct 31, 2018, 6:55 PM

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@polar grotto I only have 3.3k avarage on it, it is indeed op but it is a premium tank so can't be buffed also not many people actually bought it

indigo knot Oct 31, 2018, 6:56 PM

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@quick lichen what are your thoughts about Tiger2 and Vk4502a
I think they are quite underpowered compared to its tier 8 counterparts
And Sp1c really sucks
You can't even run away, everyone rams you for half health and spams he and yolos on you and even autoloader suck on it

polar grotto Oct 31, 2018, 6:57 PM

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@prime oracle i don’t want it to be buffed, i want it to be nerfed and i see almost one in every tier 8 battle on the EU server and they’re driving me insane, and just because it’s a premium doesnmt mean they can’t nerf it, especially as it’s not just a small bit OP it’s way too OP

stuck umbra Oct 31, 2018, 6:58 PM

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Grille 15 needs to be buffed back this tank relies on speed...

prime oracle Oct 31, 2018, 6:58 PM

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Sorry mistake I ment nerf

tropic radish Oct 31, 2018, 6:58 PM

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Actually, tank that need a buff is 121b

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Statistically it's a worst tier 10 tank

stuck umbra Oct 31, 2018, 6:59 PM

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it got buffed like twice already

prime oracle Oct 31, 2018, 6:59 PM

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That's because all the player who bought it still are active @polar grotto

tropic radish Oct 31, 2018, 7:00 PM

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Not enough, dispersion is really bad

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I'm 62% player and I really struggle in it. It's so hard to keep 3k dmg every game

polar grotto Oct 31, 2018, 7:01 PM

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@prime oracle so? It’s still broken and i see so many players that have higher damage in their wz-120-1g ft than they do in their tier 10 TDs

umbral fern Oct 31, 2018, 7:01 PM

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Lol if they hit anything

prime oracle Oct 31, 2018, 7:02 PM

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I am one of those I get 2.8-3k avarage on tier 10 and I have 3.3k in that wz, I never said it is not op it obviously is but it's a premium tank wich is sold for 50 bucks they just can't nerf it

tough path Oct 31, 2018, 7:02 PM

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i hope maus gets kwk 44/L2. in exchance for a slower speed, rotation, and turrent rotation. i think thats probably more fitting

arctic edge Oct 31, 2018, 7:12 PM

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Hmmmm... I think it would be useful to add more turret armor (about 260mm) like in the PC, and a better penetration

hardy void Oct 31, 2018, 7:16 PM

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what would be useful is to raise the top speed of maus to 40 and add nore armor

weak atlas Oct 31, 2018, 7:17 PM

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t 62a vs obj 140?

burnt venture Oct 31, 2018, 7:17 PM

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Maus is actually an agile boi

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I think someone said that the 140 was getting a different gun with different parameters @weak atlas

weak atlas Oct 31, 2018, 7:18 PM

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which one is better now?

burnt venture Oct 31, 2018, 7:19 PM

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62A gets better armor and way better turret and gun
140 gets 1 deg more gun depression and better top speed / mobility

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I think at least

hardy void Oct 31, 2018, 7:20 PM

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shouldn't the tiger be given more armor and higher alpha?

burnt venture Oct 31, 2018, 7:20 PM

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Tiger 1? I guess. It takes a peculiar playstyle right now and lots of players (like the panther) get it for historical accuracy and hate it or can't play it

weak atlas Oct 31, 2018, 7:21 PM

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i will go for t62a then

burnt venture Oct 31, 2018, 7:21 PM

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But only armor not alpha @hardy void since that would be OP broken with the RoF

weak atlas Oct 31, 2018, 7:22 PM

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it's op in tr7

hardy void Oct 31, 2018, 7:22 PM

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but the tiger should deal more damage than the is

weak atlas Oct 31, 2018, 7:22 PM

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it does

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have lower reload time

hardy void Oct 31, 2018, 7:25 PM

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no I mean damage per shot

jade cargoBOT Oct 31, 2018, 7:27 PM

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dynoSuccess ¥¶RîDã~LâHmÈR¥£#6745 was muted

remote prism Oct 31, 2018, 7:33 PM

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What was he muted for?

burnt venture Oct 31, 2018, 7:34 PM

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Boi @hardy void srsly why does an 88mm deserve to deal more alpha than a 122mm
IS was stronger than Tiger 1

hardy void Oct 31, 2018, 7:34 PM

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maybe because it has a higher velocity meaning it would pen more????

cunning kindle Oct 31, 2018, 7:34 PM

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Wat?

burnt venture Oct 31, 2018, 7:35 PM

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this mans
it DOES have higher pen but deals less damage cuz of the caliber

hardy void Oct 31, 2018, 7:35 PM

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eh that's not how it should work

ebon compass Oct 31, 2018, 7:35 PM

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...

cunning kindle Oct 31, 2018, 7:36 PM

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Velocity has nothing to do with alpha in this game

charred moth Oct 31, 2018, 7:36 PM

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Hello hello

hardy void Oct 31, 2018, 7:38 PM

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hi hi

twin meadow Oct 31, 2018, 7:42 PM

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Tiger are a good tank.. Not really for a first line. But is accuracy give a great second line. In case the tiger P are the other version to first line of the tiger1... Just make your choice, tiger 1 for support or tiger p to tank hard

small flame Oct 31, 2018, 7:44 PM

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uh oh be careful @twin meadow you gonna get muted

twin meadow Oct 31, 2018, 7:46 PM

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??

modest flame Oct 31, 2018, 7:53 PM

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SP1C is good if u know how to play it

twin meadow Oct 31, 2018, 7:54 PM

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Good gun spic

vast acorn Oct 31, 2018, 8:06 PM

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balance the gravedigger in 2-3 clips it can kill me with my su-100y

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and its armor is op

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i can barly pin him in the frount a part from the cheek with apcr

sharp wind Oct 31, 2018, 8:12 PM

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Howtoaim.org

dreamy rapids Oct 31, 2018, 8:13 PM

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The gravedigger is perfectly balanced in my option due to the weak lower plate checked only needing 190mm to pen and 5 degrees of gun depression

quasi flame Oct 31, 2018, 8:17 PM

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still, my t43 struggles to pen the side of the turret...

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dumb armour in my opinion

cunning sleet Oct 31, 2018, 8:28 PM

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The bulldog needs more hp compared to comet that has 200+

unique scaffold Oct 31, 2018, 8:41 PM

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pls buff kv2 152mm cannon accuracy

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Yep

ivory fractal Oct 31, 2018, 8:44 PM

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@quasi flame pls no reference to Stalin

quasi flame Oct 31, 2018, 8:44 PM

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oops srry

shy ether Oct 31, 2018, 9:02 PM

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Kv2 is like Stalin in ww2
Sometimes you're lucky
Sometimes you aren't

fringe summit Oct 31, 2018, 9:03 PM

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FCM 50 T should get a buff, probably the most underrated tier 8 premium.

shy ether Oct 31, 2018, 9:04 PM

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Maybe

distant sapphire Oct 31, 2018, 9:06 PM

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@fringe summit its definitely not you can bounce its mobile and it's got a good gun

unique scaffold Oct 31, 2018, 9:07 PM

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When is coming the New update

stray rock Oct 31, 2018, 9:09 PM

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Mid November

unique scaffold Oct 31, 2018, 9:10 PM

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Thx

fringe summit Oct 31, 2018, 9:11 PM

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@distant sapphire Yeah, maybe you’re right about that. Thx anyways. 😃

obtuse geode Oct 31, 2018, 9:14 PM

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When is the next take it easy event going to take place?

unique scaffold Oct 31, 2018, 9:15 PM

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Why WG don't nerf FV

sonic cedar Oct 31, 2018, 9:15 PM

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It's maintenance now

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Ohhhh @hybrid spoke you're here😅 😂 im fans of yours in 2 years

flat bane Oct 31, 2018, 9:53 PM

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Wz 111 1-4 needs better side armor

finite glade Oct 31, 2018, 10:16 PM

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u know what tank really need more armor

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its the amx cdc lol

jovial kernel Oct 31, 2018, 10:17 PM

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VK 100.01 (P) clearly needs an armor buff

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 10:19 PM

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Let’s play the update first

jovial kernel Oct 31, 2018, 10:29 PM

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VK 100.01 (P) has a very high chance to break tier 8

limpid elm Oct 31, 2018, 10:30 PM

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Tier 8 was and has been broken many times. It won't be the first time.

jovial kernel Oct 31, 2018, 10:33 PM

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The tank just simply shouldn't be added because no artillery is on the game to counter it.

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 10:36 PM

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Lacks dpm

dark pike Oct 31, 2018, 10:36 PM

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when will the wz 120 ft get nerfed

fallow fox Oct 31, 2018, 10:37 PM

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Can't nerf a premium, or else people get angry

unique scaffold Oct 31, 2018, 10:38 PM

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That’s some bull

dark pike Oct 31, 2018, 10:39 PM

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thats not good because its op as hell

inner goblet Oct 31, 2018, 10:41 PM

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WZ 120 seems super OP from the few battles I've seen it in

dark pike Oct 31, 2018, 10:43 PM

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mate, 240mm of frontal plate armor is no joke, tier 7 aint going to scratch it and tier 8 tanks will have issues penning

main vine Oct 31, 2018, 10:43 PM

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From the results I’ve seen of it it seems absurdly op

inner goblet Oct 31, 2018, 10:44 PM

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It nearly completely dunked on me when I had to brawl it in my BP

dark pike Oct 31, 2018, 10:44 PM

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most mts and lts cannot out run the traverse and it bullies heavies with the good dpm

inner goblet Oct 31, 2018, 10:46 PM

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Does it have any frontal weakspots? Lower glacis and that's it?

scenic echo Oct 31, 2018, 10:47 PM

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Why does this channel even exist? Some random low WN8 plebs cry about tanks that killed them instead of reflecting their gameplay xD

dark pike Oct 31, 2018, 10:47 PM

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no weakspots other than lower plate

jovial kernel Oct 31, 2018, 10:49 PM

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Has hatches but they're tiny

dark pike Oct 31, 2018, 10:49 PM

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it has hatches??

jovial kernel Oct 31, 2018, 10:50 PM

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2 very small ones

main vine Oct 31, 2018, 10:50 PM

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Cause not every tank is balanced @scenic echo

inner goblet Oct 31, 2018, 10:50 PM

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Seriously? Couldn't see any when I was brawling it

jovial kernel Oct 31, 2018, 10:51 PM

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Again, very small. Do not count on hitting them, especially when they wiggle.

inner goblet Oct 31, 2018, 10:51 PM

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Yikes

scenic echo Oct 31, 2018, 10:52 PM

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@main vine Ye but people complain about Bulldog which is one of the best tier 7 tanks in my opinion. Just an amusing channel we have here

jovial kernel Oct 31, 2018, 10:52 PM

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Bulldog is okay, not for me though

dark pike Oct 31, 2018, 10:52 PM

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bulldog is a decent tank, wz 120 ft on the other hand is broken as hell

main vine Oct 31, 2018, 10:53 PM

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Then that’s their opinion, I agree that the Bulldog is one of the best tier 7 tanks, and is perhaps my favourite tank @scenic echo

jovial kernel Oct 31, 2018, 10:54 PM

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With all the armor power creep the IS-6 and T-44 could use a buff to maybe 181mm of penetration to match the type 59

sullen vault Oct 31, 2018, 10:54 PM

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T44 is amazing to play with,it doesnt need a buff at all

inner goblet Oct 31, 2018, 10:55 PM

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IS-6 is still fine

dark pike Oct 31, 2018, 10:55 PM

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i would like for that random cheek weakspot on the is 6 to be removed

inner goblet Oct 31, 2018, 10:55 PM

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Hmm

jovial kernel Oct 31, 2018, 10:56 PM

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Meh that's fine but either a small penetration or accuracy buff would be nice

dark pike Oct 31, 2018, 10:57 PM

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pen is okay, reload isn't very good

jovial kernel Oct 31, 2018, 10:57 PM

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Nah I mean on the stock gun

sullen vault Oct 31, 2018, 10:57 PM

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Reload is fine

jovial kernel Oct 31, 2018, 10:58 PM

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The one with more don't than the T-44

inner goblet Oct 31, 2018, 10:58 PM

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Gravedigger could do with a slight turret cheek armour nerf too

jovial kernel Oct 31, 2018, 11:00 PM

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Grave Digger could use a recoil nerf as hitting the lower plate is almost impossible when a Grave Digger is unloading.

inner goblet Oct 31, 2018, 11:01 PM

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Yeah, the physical design of the Gravedigger makes it a pain

dark pike Oct 31, 2018, 11:02 PM

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gravedigger is a nightmare when its top tier

lofty wind Oct 31, 2018, 11:03 PM

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i love gravedigger... fun tank

hidden merlin Oct 31, 2018, 11:03 PM

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broken when it's top tier

jovial kernel Oct 31, 2018, 11:03 PM

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Grave Digger is cancer to fight against if you make a bad play and get caught out of position

quasi hare Oct 31, 2018, 11:04 PM

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Gravedigger gae

hidden merlin Oct 31, 2018, 11:04 PM

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🤔

quasi hare Oct 31, 2018, 11:04 PM

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@jovial kernel gravedigger is useless against my at15 just like amx 13 57 tho👀

dark pike Oct 31, 2018, 11:04 PM

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gravedigger has chinese medium's level of gun depression

hidden merlin Oct 31, 2018, 11:05 PM

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lol RIP

jovial kernel Oct 31, 2018, 11:05 PM

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Until they start tracking you and shooting your hatch and take 50 seconds to kill you while you can't do anything

quasi hare Oct 31, 2018, 11:06 PM

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@jovial kernel nah

dark pike Oct 31, 2018, 11:06 PM

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i tend to load prammo against the at15

quasi hare Oct 31, 2018, 11:06 PM

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@dark pike goldnoobs everywhere (you dont event need any gold for these tonks)

lofty wind Oct 31, 2018, 11:07 PM

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gravedigger has a lower glacis that is easily penned like most tanks have

dark pike Oct 31, 2018, 11:07 PM

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eh, couldnt careless if i was called a goldnoob for that

unkempt quest Oct 31, 2018, 11:07 PM

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yay 10 min are over

lofty wind Oct 31, 2018, 11:09 PM

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@dark pike just too many living in the past is all... nothing wrong with prem ammo

quasi hare Oct 31, 2018, 11:09 PM

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@lofty wind everyone who uses prammo just cant aim good enough with AP

dark pike Oct 31, 2018, 11:10 PM

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i fire gold if i cant see the hatch and hope that it pens

quasi hare Oct 31, 2018, 11:11 PM

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Pfff

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 11:12 PM

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@quasi hare there’s a maus in front of you and you’re using an e75. What do you do?

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Shoot ap and bounce?

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He for 100?

quasi hare Oct 31, 2018, 11:12 PM

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@quick lichen go away and look for other target, try to pen with ap, circle

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 11:13 PM

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No. You dab the 2 key and shoot gold

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You’re going to run away in an e75?

main vine Oct 31, 2018, 11:13 PM

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What if the maus is the last tank?

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 11:13 PM

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^^^

fossil crag Oct 31, 2018, 11:13 PM

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Did someone say.... dab

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 11:13 PM

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I’d love to see you circle a maus in an e75

quasi hare Oct 31, 2018, 11:13 PM

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I dont have e75 anymore @quick lichen well then circle the maus @main vine

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 11:14 PM

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It’s not remotely possible

main vine Oct 31, 2018, 11:14 PM

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^

unkempt quest Oct 31, 2018, 11:14 PM

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anyone think the mt-25 has too much ammo per round?

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 11:14 PM

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Come to a training room and we can show you

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Smh

quasi hare Oct 31, 2018, 11:14 PM

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@quick lichen e75 has better mobility than maus or not. I dont have e75 or maus

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 11:15 PM

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Better mobility but not medium mobility

dark pike Oct 31, 2018, 11:15 PM

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i think the maus has enough traverse to catch the e 75

strong depot Oct 31, 2018, 11:15 PM

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/239110803045744640/507330601238396968/wtfteam.PNG

fossil crag Oct 31, 2018, 11:15 PM

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Maus traverse can keep up with the E75, therefore nullifying the ability to do the artistic move known as "Circle of Death".

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 11:15 PM

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Exactly

strong depot Oct 31, 2018, 11:16 PM

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seems balanced to me

quasi hare Oct 31, 2018, 11:16 PM

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You can rush maus from the front and then go left or right and stick to his side and then move forwards and backwards

fossil crag Oct 31, 2018, 11:16 PM

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I felt really smart using words like nullifying and artistic 💦 My 300 IQ is kicking in.

lofty wind Oct 31, 2018, 11:16 PM

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@fossil crag LOL

unkempt quest Oct 31, 2018, 11:16 PM

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good for you @fossil crag

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 11:16 PM

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Maus is in a city and there’s no way to get to his side

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There’s a building

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Now what

quasi hare Oct 31, 2018, 11:16 PM

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@quick lichen sad life then better luck next game

fossil crag Oct 31, 2018, 11:16 PM

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I'm reaching my final form bois 👌

lofty wind Oct 31, 2018, 11:17 PM

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waste of oxygen

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 11:17 PM

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So you put the device down and give up instead of shooting gold

quasi hare Oct 31, 2018, 11:17 PM

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Im usually very low on credits especially now while grinding fv line so but i dont give up i try to win in a different way

thin condor Oct 31, 2018, 11:17 PM

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Depends on how well the Maus driver is

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 11:17 PM

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Dragon from pramo

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There are situations where you have no choice but to shoot gold

main vine Oct 31, 2018, 11:18 PM

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fml theres this one game that haunts me, me in an RU and a pta fought 7 enemies alone, and it came down to me and a one shot ltwt, and forgetting prammo exists, i bounced him twice and died @jovial kernel

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 11:19 PM

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Whether or not you do is your choice

scenic echo Oct 31, 2018, 11:19 PM

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Always spam gold wtf are you noobs and load standard rounds? :3

jovial kernel Oct 31, 2018, 11:19 PM

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And some where you need to guarantee a penetration to not die

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 11:19 PM

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But prammo rounds will always be needed

quasi hare Oct 31, 2018, 11:19 PM

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@quick lichen ok good sometimes i use prammo for maus but thats it i dont use prammo for anything else sometimes in low tier only

lofty wind Oct 31, 2018, 11:19 PM

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Credits nullified prem gold discussion IMO

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 11:20 PM

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I just hope you’re on red and I’m in an is-4

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Good luck

jovial kernel Oct 31, 2018, 11:20 PM

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Then there's SU-100Y prammo

quasi hare Oct 31, 2018, 11:20 PM

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I usually dont play t10 and i dont usually have big problems with is4s

thin condor Oct 31, 2018, 11:20 PM

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I kinda feel like a noob whenever I get a battle with Pramo or PNCR in it

strong depot Oct 31, 2018, 11:20 PM

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omg plz stop bragging about premium rounds, ate the end, i only care about if i win or not

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 11:20 PM

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Lol

scenic echo Oct 31, 2018, 11:21 PM

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It's no elitism to not shoot premium rounds, just plain stupidity

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 11:21 PM

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Exactly my point

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They need to exist

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Whether you shoot them is your choice

proven helm Oct 31, 2018, 11:21 PM

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I belive there is a time and a place for premium rounds. But they are not a crutch.

quasi hare Oct 31, 2018, 11:21 PM

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I can aim i usually dont need prammo and i wont use it cuz im saving credits

main vine Oct 31, 2018, 11:22 PM

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Theres this one game that haunts me, where i was in an ru, and alongside a PTA we fought off 7 enemies after our team disintegrated, and it came down to me and a ltwt. I bounced him twice having forgotten gold rounds exist and lost it for the team @jovial kernel

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 11:22 PM

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@proven helm hull down is tank it’s a crutch

thin condor Oct 31, 2018, 11:22 PM

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Yep they need to exist so tier 7 heavies can spam it at my T26E4

light venture Oct 31, 2018, 11:22 PM

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Hi, guys.

strong depot Oct 31, 2018, 11:22 PM

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t26E4 has OP armor

jovial kernel Oct 31, 2018, 11:22 PM

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Wtf nubs shooting prammo you're supposed to shoot the entire [PRAMO] clan at them

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 11:22 PM

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Or a nameless or lupus

main vine Oct 31, 2018, 11:22 PM

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It happened probably like a year or two ago but oml was i salty

scenic echo Oct 31, 2018, 11:22 PM

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@quasi hare That's literally the most stupid statement that I've heared for a while

dark pike Oct 31, 2018, 11:22 PM

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is the t26e4's lower plate not spaced armor?

quasi hare Oct 31, 2018, 11:23 PM

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@scenic echo you are a cow so

proven helm Oct 31, 2018, 11:23 PM

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@quick lichen crutch as in i cant be good without using it all the time

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 11:23 PM

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It’s not spaced. Just thick

strong depot Oct 31, 2018, 11:23 PM

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idk, i only know u can bounce rhm ez

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 11:23 PM

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@proven helm I know

scenic echo Oct 31, 2018, 11:23 PM

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Shooting premium rounds doesn't mean you can't aim, such a dumb statement, sry for being so direct

dark pike Oct 31, 2018, 11:23 PM

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oh no wonder heat rounds go right through

thin condor Oct 31, 2018, 11:23 PM

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Not if you know how to aim @strong depot

jovial kernel Oct 31, 2018, 11:23 PM

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"T26E4 has op armor" can literally be side penned by 122mm HE

main vine Oct 31, 2018, 11:23 PM

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I always thought it was spaced lmao @quick lichen

quasi hare Oct 31, 2018, 11:23 PM

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@scenic echo if you can aim at weakspots you dont need prammo (usually)

proven helm Oct 31, 2018, 11:24 PM

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Isnt the turret spaced?

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 11:24 PM

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@main vine borsig heat pens it no problem so idk

eternal bough Oct 31, 2018, 11:24 PM

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@proven helm it is

strong depot Oct 31, 2018, 11:24 PM

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yes, but like 95% of players doesnt know how to aim

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 11:24 PM

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Heat can also pen e100 skirts so idk

jovial kernel Oct 31, 2018, 11:24 PM

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Idk Type 62 heat has problems

strong depot Oct 31, 2018, 11:25 PM

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t26E4 upper plate can bounce T10 td rounds

thin condor Oct 31, 2018, 11:25 PM

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Ik it's fun

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 11:25 PM

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Type 62 with Cali shells gets 275 heat pen lol

main vine Oct 31, 2018, 11:25 PM

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NANI

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 11:25 PM

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Butters maus

jovial kernel Oct 31, 2018, 11:25 PM

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Vs T26E4 front

quasi hare Oct 31, 2018, 11:25 PM

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I can pen maus with at7 or at15 lol

proven helm Oct 31, 2018, 11:25 PM

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From what i understand spaced doesnt completely nullify damage pen, but have increased protection from heat and he. So heat can go through spaced if its thin enough.

inner goblet Oct 31, 2018, 11:26 PM

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Wtf? How did I get a 3rd class mastery for a 800 dmg game in the BP?

strong depot Oct 31, 2018, 11:26 PM

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in t26E4, u win games you have absolutely no business winning

jovial kernel Oct 31, 2018, 11:26 PM

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Yeah I own a Type 62 the heat is hilarious lmao

scenic echo Oct 31, 2018, 11:26 PM

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You can pen Maus with everything, Maus is shit xD

quasi hare Oct 31, 2018, 11:27 PM

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@scenic echo oh well +1

jovial kernel Oct 31, 2018, 11:27 PM

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Especially with calibrated shells

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 11:27 PM

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Heat isn’t supposed to pen spaced armor. That’s the issue. Heat explodes on The armor surface and then goes through. Heat is only supposed to pen the spaced section and stop when it hits the main armor from my understanding. Spaced armor nullifies heat

jovial kernel Oct 31, 2018, 11:28 PM

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Chinese IS-2 has the same heat pen as the Type 62 as well

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 11:28 PM

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Lol what

quasi hare Oct 31, 2018, 11:28 PM

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Tf

scenic echo Oct 31, 2018, 11:28 PM

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Ye but you don't use the 122mm gun on IS-2 so why bother xd

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 11:28 PM

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Thankfully the is2 has bad dpm

strong depot Oct 31, 2018, 11:29 PM

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why? cause it's op???

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 11:29 PM

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Yes

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That’s unfair pen heavy vs heavy

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No other heavy in tier 7 is close to that

inner goblet Oct 31, 2018, 11:29 PM

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Tiger

proven helm Oct 31, 2018, 11:29 PM

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The heat shell would not go through but the shrapnel from the shell would be going much faster so technically some would get through sometimes.

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 11:30 PM

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Not 250 mm

thin condor Oct 31, 2018, 11:30 PM

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Well the Chinese is2 is weak against a kv2 just hit that cupola with he and say hi

strong depot Oct 31, 2018, 11:30 PM

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if anyone says is-2 is OP, i come slap in the face ok

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 11:31 PM

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I said the pen is op on heat

stray rock Oct 31, 2018, 11:31 PM

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How u slap in my face?

inner goblet Oct 31, 2018, 11:31 PM

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KV2 >Hit cupola

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 11:31 PM

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There’s a difference

strong depot Oct 31, 2018, 11:31 PM

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oh ok, i was cringing hard omg

jovial kernel Oct 31, 2018, 11:31 PM

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Heat can pen through spaced armor if it has a penetration fuse or the armor behind is like less than 5mm in real life, or maybe the heat has an explosively formed penetrator

proven helm Oct 31, 2018, 11:32 PM

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I would rather play wz blaze then chinese is2

light venture Oct 31, 2018, 11:32 PM

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May I ask why the LTTB has 22 t and 75 mm of frontal hull armor? When did stalinium become so light? Why can this non-premium Russian light tank compete in speed with the T6 Dracula?

strong depot Oct 31, 2018, 11:32 PM

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i sold is-2 3 times and recently bought it my 4th time

jovial kernel Oct 31, 2018, 11:32 PM

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Lol

inner goblet Oct 31, 2018, 11:32 PM

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@light venture Russian Bias, duh

thin condor Oct 31, 2018, 11:32 PM

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Rip creds

light venture Oct 31, 2018, 11:33 PM

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That's a general meme in the community, but still, @inner goblet. It seems strange for a light tank to get bounces around tier 7.

proven helm Oct 31, 2018, 11:33 PM

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Whats the difference between the wz-111, and wz-112 glacial?

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 11:33 PM

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Front plate

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112 is flat like a 113

coarse harness Oct 31, 2018, 11:33 PM

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Gun

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 11:33 PM

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111 is piked like an is3

proven helm Oct 31, 2018, 11:34 PM

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No gun is exactly the same

jovial kernel Oct 31, 2018, 11:34 PM

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Another meme is that the Helsing and WZ-120-1 FT are balanced

fossil crag Oct 31, 2018, 11:34 PM

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If you buy both, you're basically buying the same tank.

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 11:34 PM

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Everything else is basically the same

strong depot Oct 31, 2018, 11:34 PM

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113 upper plate is weird sometimes, it seems pennable, u shoot and nothing happens

quick lichen Oct 31, 2018, 11:34 PM

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111 to me is better because of the upper plate being troll and variable

jovial kernel Oct 31, 2018, 11:35 PM

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110 is weird I've seen tier 9s bounce off it

proven helm Oct 31, 2018, 11:35 PM

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Its a shame few play it, i barely see it anyware.

light venture Oct 31, 2018, 11:36 PM

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All I've seen around tier 7 and 8 are either Russian or German mediums and heavies.

proven helm Oct 31, 2018, 11:36 PM

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Would the prem wz heavies be comparible to is 5 or 6 in tournaments? In tier 8

jovial kernel Oct 31, 2018, 11:37 PM

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Huh the 111 has a really weird looking hull

light venture Oct 31, 2018, 11:38 PM

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Ever thought about why the KV-1S requires so much time to grind in order to get it to its full potential?

proven helm Oct 31, 2018, 11:39 PM

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Kv1s us my most played tank, and it serves very well if u like patient lurking heavy playstyles

light venture Oct 31, 2018, 11:40 PM

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Hmm... What if WG added a part in the tutorial where it explained the mechanic of sidescraping?

jovial kernel Oct 31, 2018, 11:40 PM

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KV-1S also known as grind the modules by driving the IS pleb

inner goblet Oct 31, 2018, 11:40 PM

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KV-1S is the ultimate peeka boom heavy

junior compass Oct 31, 2018, 11:40 PM

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Buff gravedigger pen

jovial kernel Oct 31, 2018, 11:41 PM

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lolno

light venture Oct 31, 2018, 11:41 PM

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Gravedigger is just plain dumb because of its armor. Seriously, I need premium ammo on the LTTB to hit the side of its turret?

inner goblet Oct 31, 2018, 11:41 PM

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Dear lord no, gravedigger is already borderline op

junior compass Oct 31, 2018, 11:41 PM

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Also fix The Black Prince

jovial kernel Oct 31, 2018, 11:42 PM

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at least I can research the black prince lmao the Grave Digger is just darn broke

proven helm Oct 31, 2018, 11:42 PM

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Su100 needs a mobility buff, it can be outspeed by the su100y by a fairly large maragin.

junior compass Oct 31, 2018, 11:42 PM

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Gravedigger is not OP it cant pen tier 8 at all and thats what it mostly gets paired with

thin condor Oct 31, 2018, 11:42 PM

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Su100y is a god

polar grotto Oct 31, 2018, 11:42 PM

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Lmao you’re complaining about gravedigger but not WZ-120-1g ft

jovial kernel Oct 31, 2018, 11:42 PM

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does the SU-100 get the T-34-85 top engine or nah?

light venture Oct 31, 2018, 11:42 PM

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@junior compass, it can still track those tier 8s and hold them in place for its allies.

proven helm Oct 31, 2018, 11:43 PM

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I think so @jovial kernel

junior compass Oct 31, 2018, 11:43 PM

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Eh not really cuz if ur in a 1v1 with a tier 8 heavy the premium ammo has like 50% to pen

light venture Oct 31, 2018, 11:44 PM

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Still, a six shot magazine ready to fire in a mere 4 seconds at maximum? That's some good tracking potential.

jovial kernel Oct 31, 2018, 11:44 PM

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nope it doesn't the T-34-85 gets a much better engine

junior compass Oct 31, 2018, 11:45 PM

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@light venture uts hard to track a target with the gravedigger it takes about half the clip or more to track

jovial kernel Oct 31, 2018, 11:45 PM

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doubt the Grave digger can track most tanks in 2 and any damage resets it

light venture Oct 31, 2018, 11:45 PM

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Also depends on what equipment the enemy tank has. If it has full track protection, then rip.

jovial kernel Oct 31, 2018, 11:46 PM

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so it can just shoot 2 shots in less than a second and wait 3 seconds between the others for almost 15 seconds of that enemy being tracked.

junior compass Oct 31, 2018, 11:46 PM

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Yeah but i hate when i get tier 8 heavy matches cuz i already know i cant pen so i just camp and snipe hoping i can pen

light venture Oct 31, 2018, 11:47 PM

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What armor did the Gravedigger have on its side of the hull? It could sidescrape, at the very least. Also, those big tracks that cover the side are so annoying...

proven helm Oct 31, 2018, 11:47 PM

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Your ram is a thing then barrelstuff em

jovial kernel Oct 31, 2018, 11:48 PM

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that's not how you drive a bottom tier grave digger you're supposed to hide the lower plate and laugh when not even the enemy tier 8 TDs can pen you

junior compass Oct 31, 2018, 11:49 PM

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Tier 8 TDs can pen the turret

proven helm Oct 31, 2018, 11:49 PM

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Then again i frontline the wz blaze and can somehow bounce isu152 reliably

thin condor Oct 31, 2018, 11:50 PM

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They should bring Frontline from PC to Blitz

light venture Oct 31, 2018, 11:50 PM

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Still, the Gravedigger is suppossedly shooting nails. I doubt nails should have 170 mm standard pen.

proven helm Oct 31, 2018, 11:50 PM

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Tungsten nails maybe if they are fast enough.

junior compass Oct 31, 2018, 11:50 PM

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Then make it atier 6

light venture Oct 31, 2018, 11:51 PM

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Why make it a tier 6? To nail every tier 5 because of their non-existent armor for tier 6 heavies?

junior compass Oct 31, 2018, 11:51 PM

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Arl has like 200 pen at tier 6 way better than the GD

jovial kernel Oct 31, 2018, 11:51 PM

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cool now join the IS-6 stock gun driver's club I bet you'd have fun

proven helm Oct 31, 2018, 11:52 PM

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Lol what about stock kv5

inner goblet Oct 31, 2018, 11:52 PM

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KV5 is a premium buudy

junior compass Oct 31, 2018, 11:52 PM

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Is6s top gun is like 100 XP

jovial kernel Oct 31, 2018, 11:52 PM

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IS-6 club is much easier to join IS-6 is sold all the time KV-5 is a rare sale

light venture Oct 31, 2018, 11:52 PM

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Yeah, since the IS-6 practically prints credits.

thin condor Oct 31, 2018, 11:53 PM

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Is the is5 good?

junior compass Oct 31, 2018, 11:53 PM

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@thin condor uts decent

jovial kernel Oct 31, 2018, 11:53 PM

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IS-6 stock gun is better because with a rammer it has about 500 more dpm than the top gun with the APCR

proven helm Oct 31, 2018, 11:53 PM

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For the price yes the is5 is great

jovial kernel Oct 31, 2018, 11:54 PM

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mine reloads a 122mm shell every 10.3 seconds which is hilarious when you get in dpm brawls with mediums

thin condor Oct 31, 2018, 11:55 PM

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Ok thanks bc I'm getting close to getting tier 10 supply

proven helm Oct 31, 2018, 11:55 PM

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When a tier 6 105mm german td has higher dpm then a tier 8 tech tree td from the same country.

jovial kernel Oct 31, 2018, 11:55 PM

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I can actually get it under 10 if I buy both rations and not just the expensive rations

light venture Oct 31, 2018, 11:55 PM

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@proven helm now that's some quality bias right there.

proven helm Oct 31, 2018, 11:56 PM

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Lol

thin condor Oct 31, 2018, 11:56 PM

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Does is5 earn good creds??

proven helm Oct 31, 2018, 11:57 PM

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Ehh

lunar niche Oct 31, 2018, 11:57 PM

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@thin condor It does

thin condor Oct 31, 2018, 11:59 PM

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Ok thanks kinda running low on one of my accounts

lunar niche Oct 31, 2018, 11:59 PM

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@thin condor It has 175% credit coefficient. Lowe/Super Pershing has 190%. IS 6 has 180%

thin condor Oct 31, 2018, 11:59 PM

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Ahh ok thanks

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 12:00 AM

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I thought the IS-5 had 170 but ok

thin condor Nov 1, 2018, 12:00 AM

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I really want to get the Lowe but don't want to spend the cash

lunar niche Nov 1, 2018, 12:01 AM

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inner goblet Nov 1, 2018, 12:01 AM

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Get IS-6 instead

lunar niche Nov 1, 2018, 12:01 AM

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@thin condor grind with the tank you are good at or enjoy. If you do big dmg, you earn a lot of credits.

proven helm Nov 1, 2018, 12:01 AM

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I think a t34 is a more sound investment, if u can actually play it well.

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 12:02 AM

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Lowe>IS-6 if you want to get credits Lowe racks up damage easier and therefore gets credits faster

acoustic shard Nov 1, 2018, 12:05 AM

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I would highly recommend the IS-5 over any other prem tier 8 easily. It's just goood all around .

visual nimbus Nov 1, 2018, 12:05 AM

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Super Pershing is great also

lunar niche Nov 1, 2018, 12:06 AM

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@acoustic shard Can't make it work for me. I did better in Tiger II and very bad in IS 5.

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 12:07 AM

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Lowe gud tho

acoustic shard Nov 1, 2018, 12:07 AM

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@lunar niche I have nearly 3.5k battle's in the tank. Just play it moderately clos range and you are good to go

amber cradle Nov 1, 2018, 12:08 AM

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@light venture you did say IS-6 prints credits, so here is proof 😂
Just won this battle

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jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 12:09 AM

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hmm I might need to try grinding the Caernarvon sometime seems like a nice tank

proven helm Nov 1, 2018, 12:11 AM

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amber cradle Nov 1, 2018, 12:12 AM

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Good god 👀

proven helm Nov 1, 2018, 12:12 AM

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I have atleast 5 games a day with this output

lunar niche Nov 1, 2018, 12:12 AM

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jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 12:13 AM

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caernarvon could use a forehead armor buff

lunar niche Nov 1, 2018, 12:14 AM

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@jovial kernel been a while since i played that but it was the IS-X killing tank.

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 12:14 AM

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yeah the problem is the turret has a part on the front that's only 100mm effective even if you use the full gun depression

inner goblet Nov 1, 2018, 12:15 AM

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@amber cradle Wait what? My game says the IS-6's next birthday is November 14th...

proven helm Nov 1, 2018, 12:15 AM

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lunar niche Nov 1, 2018, 12:16 AM

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@jovial kernel Weakspots are littered everywhere but its pretty hard to hit that weakspot

proven helm Nov 1, 2018, 12:16 AM

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Had i won then it would be an easy 160k

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 12:16 AM

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true

amber cradle Nov 1, 2018, 12:16 AM

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@inner goblet d I think its “birthday” is based off of when you initially received the vehicle.

broken wren Nov 1, 2018, 12:17 AM

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Hi

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 12:17 AM

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but it's kinda sad how a tier 4 tank can kill a hull down tier 8 heavy with standard ammo

proven helm Nov 1, 2018, 12:18 AM

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Wut? Where?

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 12:20 AM

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Caernarvon has a pretty flat piece of 51mm of armor on the turret forehead on I think a machine gun port on the top right of the turret, and a Valentine's 6 pdr gun can reliable penetrate it because even using the full gun depression on the Caernarvon it's still only 105ish mm effective thickness

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you can see how the 51mm plate bulges up a bit, and that makes it an easy pen for literally everything it meets, save an autoloader AT 7, which will still pen 50% of the time with standard ammo

limber wigeon Nov 1, 2018, 12:24 AM

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Where do we go to look at the armor profile for the tanks?

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 12:25 AM

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https://blitzhangar.com/en or go to one of the numerous apps that has the armor profiles

Knowledge database for World of Tanks: Blitz

Check and compare stats, armor, 3D models, tips and tactics for all tanks in the game

limber wigeon Nov 1, 2018, 12:25 AM

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@jovial kernel Thx

coral imp Nov 1, 2018, 12:31 AM

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Hey and thanks

open lion Nov 1, 2018, 1:37 AM

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Can the amx 13 57 get a buff please? It’s very underpowered. It’s got great potential but it can’t compete. I love the tank and have a 60+ wr in it but that is just with my luck of decent to good teams. First This tank needs its light camo on the move it’s to small and has so little hp that it’s armor most come from good concealment .If it wasn’t supposed to have light camo I don’t know why that wasn’t stated in the shop. Second it needs at least 7 shells in the clip(in pc it has 8)I’m not pulling this out of nowhere but you guys added the gravedigger soon after this tank was put into the shop and the gravedigger is the same thing but with more armor more dpm and a faster burst making the 13 57 basically useless if you have the gravedigger. It needs at least 7 shells to be its own unique tank on the battlefield. Last but not least it can use a small traverse buff there are way too many times where I find that I can’t turn quick enough and run into walls or even enemies then I die because it was too slow. With all that being said I hope you can take this all into consideration

viral terrace Nov 1, 2018, 1:44 AM

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Aye very long

open lion Nov 1, 2018, 1:45 AM

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Yes but it needs some buffing that’s why I just had to explain

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 1:46 AM

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Caernarvon could use a forehead armor buff as well

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Caernarvon has a weak spot so weak that a hull down Caernarvon can literally be killed by some tier 4 tanks with standard ammo

stoic pebble Nov 1, 2018, 2:02 AM

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The main issue you bring up with the caern is the fact that it does not have a strong enough turret. And for the gun it carries, I can totally agree. The T34 and T32 have -10 degrees of depression and have punchy guns that can be used for ride peeking gameplay, but the caern has a rapid fire dpm gun. However, having a heavy tank that can out dpm another heavy over a ridge line while also having more dpm and having a practically invulnerable turret is not a very good idea. The caern's specialty is having excellent DPM for a T8 heavy while having -10 degrees gun depression. If the turret is buffed, it will intrude on the role the T32 and T34 have with their strong turrets.

flat bane Nov 1, 2018, 2:05 AM

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I never got why the t34 tanks have so much pen

limpid elm Nov 1, 2018, 2:06 AM

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It's called balance lol. T34 has realatively weak hull.

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 2:06 AM

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I don't want it impenetrable, I just want it to not be penned by literally everything. The T34 already can just sit there since the gun depression hides the cupola, and a T29 can already do this if it decides to use the stock gun.

flat bane Nov 1, 2018, 2:07 AM

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The t34 hull down can mess anybody up lmao

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 2:08 AM

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I mean on PC they even gave it a Centurion AX turret, then gave that up for an even stronger turret.

stoic pebble Nov 1, 2018, 2:08 AM

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The T34 tank got its pen to offset its awful DPM. As I said earlier, you can't really give a tank excellent DPM and turret armor without making it unbalanced. So, WG decided to give it pen.

@jovial kernel I understand where you are coming from and the frustrations of getting penned constantly while you should be safe. Perhaps you would want something closer to a Centurion mk1 turret? The top no longer has that wonky tumor.

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 2:09 AM

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yeah I own a Cent 1 and it actually bounces shots far more reliably off the turret even if I sit still

flat bane Nov 1, 2018, 2:10 AM

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What do yall think about the 113?

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 2:10 AM

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the Caernarvon can mess people up with the dpm but that tumor is well, cancerous if you'll excuse the pun.

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I don't think it needs that machine gun area removed, but strengthening it so it can't be penned by a standard ammo from a comet would be nice

flat bane Nov 1, 2018, 2:13 AM

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O boi here comes the essay

stoic pebble Nov 1, 2018, 2:13 AM

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As a Object 140 driver, it constantly frustrates me that I get penned in the turret by everything at tier 10. And seeing as a practically identical tank, the T-62A, has turret armor practically impenetrable to the standard rounds of the 140, makes me feel like a Leopard in a sea of E-50Ms.

@flat bane From my experiences, the 113 is a much more user friendly FV 215b. The center mounted turret and blisteringly fast DPM makes it a fun tank to bully mediums with. Fighting it in a 140 is frustrating, but i doubt the upper hull will stand up to TD fire as well as the FV does.

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jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 2:15 AM

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but this is beyond getting penned by everything at tier 8-10, this is getting penned by everything at tier 5.

flat bane Nov 1, 2018, 2:15 AM

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Im at wz 111 right now, any tips of how to play it? Im only missing the top engine and gun

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 2:16 AM

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use alpha/peek a boom and appreciate how sexy WG made the 3d model look

limpid elm Nov 1, 2018, 2:16 AM

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Dat last part tho. 😂

flat bane Nov 1, 2018, 2:16 AM

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😂 👌

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 2:17 AM

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seriously I'd argue it's tied for best looking tank in the game next to the Batchat 25t AP

flat bane Nov 1, 2018, 2:17 AM

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Wz 111 1-4 looks dank tbh

main vine Nov 1, 2018, 2:17 AM

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^

stoic pebble Nov 1, 2018, 2:18 AM

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The 111-1-4 is a vehicle which is very similar to the IS-8, but with a few key differences that must be taken into account. The alpha damage difference, as well as the larger cupolas. This means that instead of being able to expose your turret whenever you wish like the IS-8, you can only poke when it is safe or you feel like testing your luck. And when you do peek, you have the extra alpha over the IS-8.

tl;dr just play it like an IS-8 the difference is negligible just don't sit still on a ridgeline

flat bane Nov 1, 2018, 2:19 AM

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Alright thank

regal grove Nov 1, 2018, 2:29 AM

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Honestly I had like 70% on 62A while only 56% on 140 but nowadays I’m enjoying 140 more

stoic pebble Nov 1, 2018, 2:30 AM

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I feel the 140 is significantly more rewarding to play than the 62A. It's like playing the Leo 1 vs playing the Patton; both are good vehicles, but the leopard is much more satisfying to do good in.

regal grove Nov 1, 2018, 2:31 AM

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^
The 140’s gd makes up for the worse turret armor - it’s more bouncy and flexible, but meanwhile 62A is more situated into more specific situations

ebon mango Nov 1, 2018, 2:43 AM

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Make Gravedigger tier 8 and just add 35 more pen to it so it can pen the enemies in tier 8 it will help a lot

devout shuttle Nov 1, 2018, 2:43 AM

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^

slim aurora Nov 1, 2018, 2:48 AM

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What about the WZ-120-1G FT?
It has a tier X gun with 8.4s reload, and insane mobility (about 40°/s). Even though the frontal armour is 120mm, it is heavily sloped and is difficult to penetrate from afar in certain tanks like the Type 59 unless you use APCR, but even that does not guarantee 100% penetration.

It is incredibly difficult to flank a WZ-120-1G FT because of the traverse rate.

night thunder Nov 1, 2018, 2:49 AM

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:GWqlabsFeelsLULMan:

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 2:49 AM

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gun tiers don't matter but yes it is broken as hell
My IS-6 HEAT with 297mm pen failed to pen one's upper plate once

regal thistle Nov 1, 2018, 2:49 AM

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Nerf Gravedigger , buff lowe

night thunder Nov 1, 2018, 2:50 AM

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Oh global emote is banned

slim aurora Nov 1, 2018, 2:50 AM

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The gun is tier X, with 8.4s reload and 246mm of penetration WITH HEAT

With that penetration, you can even penetrate a Maus.

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 2:50 AM

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wtf lmao buff Lowe it's good enough as it is

regal thistle Nov 1, 2018, 2:50 AM

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How? I it's pen able in the turret

night thunder Nov 1, 2018, 2:51 AM

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Gravedigger isnt as op as u think @regal thistle

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 2:51 AM

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ah yes, if you hit the barely visible cheeks with the magic of RNG
the cheeks are only a viable weak spot if you're face hugging

slim aurora Nov 1, 2018, 2:51 AM

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Or if you overangle your turret

regal thistle Nov 1, 2018, 2:52 AM

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@jovial kernel mhhh

lofty wind Nov 1, 2018, 2:52 AM

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@open lion I raised a ticket about the light tank camo and was told it would be fixed in next update.

slim aurora Nov 1, 2018, 2:53 AM

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The gravedigger is difficult to penetrate. Therefore, you will need prammo. However, at close range it is not able to hit any tanks if you go along its side.

So a counter would be fast tanks like the T6 Dracula.

If you use prammo you can pen the upper glacis

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 2:53 AM

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I know this from experience on the IS-6.
Also, the Grave Digger only needs one nerf, they just need to make shooting the gun shake the tank less or not at all because currently that shake makes hitting the hatch or lower plate of a Grave Digger almost impossible at over 100m

regal thistle Nov 1, 2018, 2:54 AM

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@jovial kernel is6 good??ll

lofty wind Nov 1, 2018, 2:54 AM

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#NoNerfingGravedigger

slim aurora Nov 1, 2018, 2:54 AM

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WG needs to nerf the WZ-120-1G FT though.

It is SIMILAR to a tier IX tank with lesser HP.

hushed delta Nov 1, 2018, 2:55 AM

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well hello apple

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 2:55 AM

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Meh the IS-6 is balanced. I'm fine with the 175mm pen it offers since you can abuse it if you need to. The Lowe I'd argue is a much better tank personally.
Also the Grave Digger should have little to no recoil they need to lower the tank shake so I can actually hit it's weak spots thanks

regal thistle Nov 1, 2018, 2:56 AM

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So why is Löwe better

slim aurora Nov 1, 2018, 2:56 AM

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150mm armour, better DPM, more gun depression.

A perfect brawling machine

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 2:57 AM

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the Lowe gets hilarious frontal armor that's as strong on the lower plate as the upper, more gun depression, beast gun mantlet (cheeks are very small but pennable) Has penetration and DPM unlike the IS-6 which needs to choose between the two. Also has more penetration than the IS-6 even if the IS-6 chooses the gun that has the better penetration.

earnest sun Nov 1, 2018, 2:57 AM

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also lowe traverse is nice

regal thistle Nov 1, 2018, 2:57 AM

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Okay wow thanks for the information

slim aurora Nov 1, 2018, 2:58 AM

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In mines, the Löwe is excellent, but is easily countered by the T34 because of its 10° of gun depression and higher penetration capability.

regal thistle Nov 1, 2018, 2:59 AM

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Yes t34 amazing

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 2:59 AM

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all of the tier 8 premium heavy tanks can work well on mines tho the T34 can hull down, the Lowe can sidescrape on the middle rock like the IS-6, both the Lowe and IS-6 can abuse their dpm and alpha to punish people going hill, the KV-5 can dive off the hill and ram someone for stupid amounts of damage.

earnest sun Nov 1, 2018, 2:59 AM

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KV-5

regal thistle Nov 1, 2018, 3:00 AM

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@earnest sun ✊ 😧 😴 ✊ 😧 😴

slim aurora Nov 1, 2018, 3:01 AM

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But IMO T34 is the best on mines because of 279mm of turret armour and the gun mantlet

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 3:01 AM

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yeah and the cupola is literally impossible to hit when you use the gun depression

regal thistle Nov 1, 2018, 3:01 AM

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Luckily i already have it ;)

earnest sun Nov 1, 2018, 3:01 AM

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IS-6 DPM......

slim aurora Nov 1, 2018, 3:02 AM

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However the cheeks are vulnerable also

alpine gyro Nov 1, 2018, 3:02 AM

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Why are Russian mediums so accurate?

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 3:02 AM

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But in my IS-6 I have a game where I got top damage in a tier 9 game with the stock gun, spotted all the enemies, and got a few kills on mines.

regal thistle Nov 1, 2018, 3:02 AM

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If you guys would choose from is6 and Lowe: which one?

earnest sun Nov 1, 2018, 3:02 AM

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Lowe

slim aurora Nov 1, 2018, 3:03 AM

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Löwe obviously.

Better in all aspects

alpine gyro Nov 1, 2018, 3:03 AM

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E100

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 3:03 AM

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Lowe ez

regal thistle Nov 1, 2018, 3:03 AM

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Ah going to get bought 😉 thanks all

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 3:05 AM

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the Lowe is actually slowly creeping into op territory at this rate

unique scaffold Nov 1, 2018, 3:13 AM

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This where we talk with devs? Please remove the fantasy vehicles that don’t belong in this game.

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 3:15 AM

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Why do you hate them? I'm actually quite fine with them as long as they don't break balance, which means the O-47, Nameless, and Hafen are fine in my book.

lofty wind Nov 1, 2018, 3:20 AM

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@slim aurora Naaaa... the WZ-120-1G FT is awesome just how it is. Good tank in good hands = good chance of winning when team members are stacked against you.

slim aurora Nov 1, 2018, 3:21 AM

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Dude it is a 0 IQ tank.

I am talking about fighting AGAINST ONE @lofty wind

unique scaffold Nov 1, 2018, 3:21 AM

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The fantasy vehicles such as Dracula, Helsing, Lupis, Vindicator, Gravedigger, Tankenstien, and Scavenger are not shaped like normal tanks, nor do they use real tanks as a base for stats, this gives them an unfair advantage over normal tanks.

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 3:23 AM

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Tankenstein and Scavenger are balanced, the Vindiactor has nothing going for it other than the gun and trolly front armor Also you say this like the entire Chinese TD line isn't going to be fantasy tanks, and don't mention how the SU-100 never had a 122mm gun so that's a fantasy tank too

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also the KV-1S never got a 122, and it'd also be literally impossible to get 8 degrees of gun depression with it

unique scaffold Nov 1, 2018, 3:26 AM

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If it doesn’t exist in real life, it shouldn’t be in this game. Isn’t one of the main selling points the fact that you drive tanks from history?

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 3:27 AM

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it never said you can't drive tanks that aren't from history, also you don't complain about the O-47 because it's an example of a fantasy tank done well.

unique scaffold Nov 1, 2018, 3:28 AM

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I didn’t even know about it. I just pointed out the ones that were obvious at a glance that I’ve seen.

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 3:29 AM

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Yeah, because no one drives it, since no one buys a balanced tank, they all want op ones that will never be nerfed.
The fact that cartoon tanks are overpowered is a direct consequence of the playerbase.

unique scaffold Nov 1, 2018, 3:30 AM

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Then cartoon tanks should be removed

night thunder Nov 1, 2018, 3:31 AM

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Btw question Why do you guys at wg decided to nerf the pen of the comet and cromwell for next update ??? Its completely illogical since comet had bad pen already

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 3:32 AM

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It's not just cartoon tanks, WG has been proven by their own playerbase that only OP tanks get bought. New premiums will be a mix of balanced things which no one will buy and OP tanks that will sell like hotcakes, regardless of if it's real or not.

@night thunder that nerf is on the Comet stock gun only, the top gun is staying as is

unique scaffold Nov 1, 2018, 3:33 AM

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If WG starts making all the tanks historically accurate, nobody can complain because that’s how the tanks actually were.

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 3:33 AM

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Ok then go play war thunder and you still meet op tanks like the Calliope

night thunder Nov 1, 2018, 3:34 AM

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@unique scaffold war thunder if u want that kind of game

unique scaffold Nov 1, 2018, 3:34 AM

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I would but it contains arty

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 3:34 AM

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War thunder arty is a consumable it's a really inaccurate area strike and rarely actually does more than break tracks

unique scaffold Nov 1, 2018, 3:35 AM

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That’s what WoT said about their arty, yet it’s still cancer

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 3:35 AM

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no because WoT arty can actually kill things

night thunder Nov 1, 2018, 3:35 AM

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No wot arty isnt that good

fringe pecan Nov 1, 2018, 3:36 AM

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I'd like to see a mode like they had (have still?) in World of Warships where you can select to play without cartoons. They still exist, just not in your matchmaker.

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 3:36 AM

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WoT arty is not op, it's just cancer since most of them take minimal effort to play, and don't put themselves at risk to do damage most of the time

night thunder Nov 1, 2018, 3:36 AM

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U need to actually have skills before to be able to play it effectively and insane map awareness but now its even harder to use

regal grove Nov 1, 2018, 3:36 AM

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How about 7v7 183’s

unique scaffold Nov 1, 2018, 3:36 AM

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gets one-shot by arty

fringe pecan Nov 1, 2018, 3:37 AM

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Arty in WoT is a pain in the arse to play, it's pretty tough without decent spotters, and you are toast if you get spotted.

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 3:37 AM

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WoT and WoWS only have a no cartoon mode because the cartoonification of the game only extends to camos, not entire vehicles.
Also, cartoons are fine if done right, I don't see anyone complaining about the Predator or O-47

fringe pecan Nov 1, 2018, 3:38 AM

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at least their cartoons (WoWS anyway) are based on real ships. The ones in blitz are pretty much all 1 tier lower than they should be for good balance

night thunder Nov 1, 2018, 3:38 AM

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Predator is pretty underwhelming

unique scaffold Nov 1, 2018, 3:39 AM

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Someone once said “If arty prevents camping, then logically a match with all arty will have no camping at all.”

fringe pecan Nov 1, 2018, 3:39 AM

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I prefer the quasi-immersion of historical tanks, or quasi historical

night thunder Nov 1, 2018, 3:39 AM

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When bottom tier that is since ur just an xp pinata for tier 8 when top tier it can bully tier 6 tho

Also arty cant 1 shot now @unique scaffold wg nerf em again

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 3:40 AM

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it can one shot light tanks tho

regal grove Nov 1, 2018, 3:40 AM

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@jovial kernel the question is if u can hit them

unique scaffold Nov 1, 2018, 3:40 AM

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I play German TD without roofs. Yes they can one-shot me

fringe pecan Nov 1, 2018, 3:40 AM

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How many shots does it take to get the hit though?

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Between crap spotting, horrid hang time, and slow reload, you have to be patient, and beyond good to play arty well

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 3:41 AM

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Considering that scouting is literally just run to a bush and sit there with binos and net in WoT all you need to do is see what team mates are taking damage or getting hit, then you can guess which bush the light is in because 90% of them use the same one, and just drop a nuke there.

fringe pecan Nov 1, 2018, 3:43 AM

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I can tell this is going to be an interesting channel, but for another night. Gotta get some sleep. Be safe, and happy fighting all

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 3:43 AM

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And then even if you miss, you just took off half their health, and are at 0 risk of taking damage back for it

unique scaffold Nov 1, 2018, 3:43 AM

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It doesn’t matter how much WG nerfs arty’s reload and accuracy, it’s still cancer when one class gets special privileges to shoot over obstacles and halfway across the map without leaving spawn.

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 3:45 AM

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Think about this. People in blitz hate the FV215b 183. They hate it because the 183 isn't spotted until it's already aimed, fired, and running back to cover that's 3m away. Now just take spotting the 183 out of the whole equation and that's artillery.

night thunder Nov 1, 2018, 3:46 AM

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Its not its a vehicle type for ppl who had godly skills since if ur a potato u cant win with arty and also im guessing u only complained because u hate getting bombed in paper tanks @unique scaffold

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 3:46 AM

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Artillery isn't fun for anyone, because even if you don't get hit, your team is hiding to avoid being hit and camping the whole game.

unique scaffold Nov 1, 2018, 3:47 AM

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It’s basic common sense that it isn’t fair when one class doesn’t have to follow the same rules as every other class in the game.

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 3:48 AM

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In fact, as someone who played artillery up tier 8, I didn't find it fun myself. I actually decided that since french arty was mobile enough I wasn't going to shoot anyone more than 500m away, unless I absolutely had to to win a game, since artillery was just that boring to play.

unique scaffold Nov 1, 2018, 3:49 AM

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I couldn’t care less if arty was killing me as long as they had to play by the same rules I do

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can we add the p1000 ratte into the game?

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At least then I would have a chance at shooting back

night thunder Nov 1, 2018, 3:50 AM

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@unique scaffold So im guessing that amx 50b is unfair as well since it doesnt have to tank damage even tho its a heavy ?

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 3:50 AM

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Also friendly Artillery is one of the worst enemies in the game as they will aim for the person you're face hugging, then hit you in the engine deck for 700 and set you on fire.

And no, the 50B is not unfair because when it shoots, you can shoot it. the same is not true for artillery.

unique scaffold Nov 1, 2018, 3:51 AM

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Does it need line-of-sight to shoot an enemy? If so, it’s playing by the same rules as everyone else and is fair.

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 3:53 AM

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I swear Konata is actually an Obj. 212A main that thinks nuking people from halfway across the map with 203mm shells and not being at any risk of taking damage in return is fair.

unique scaffold Nov 1, 2018, 3:54 AM

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Right before I quit PC, I had enough and just started shooting the arty on my team

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 3:54 AM

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ok now that's too far

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I only explicitly team kill them if they try to shoot at a face hug situation when I'm in my arty

unique scaffold Nov 1, 2018, 3:56 AM

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Is it really? WG is taking absolutely no action against arty. I’m sick of yelling at a brick wall, so I became the solution.

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 3:57 AM

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Yeah no, you don't get to punish people for abiding by the rules of the game. Stupid and destructive play like shooting where team mates are in the blast zone or could be directly hit by the shells is the line where I team kill.

next pulsar Nov 1, 2018, 3:58 AM

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boi

unique scaffold Nov 1, 2018, 3:58 AM

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But arty ISN’T abiding by the rules of the game, they have their own special set of rules that allows them to play god mode.

next pulsar Nov 1, 2018, 3:59 AM

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does kv5 need balance?

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 4:01 AM

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As a non scummy artillery player, I personally will kill people who don't know how to play artillery and give the class a bad name. You'll never catch me shooting more than 500m unless it's needed to save a team mate, and I try to actually prevent camping by moving around the map and picking new places to shoot from, meaning I actually improve the dynamics of the game. If I catch someone making a stupid shot in their artillery and hurting their own team, they are dead, and you will see my kill counter go down by one. Also, my first target is always enemy artillery to see if I can tag them out by looking at their tracers.

unique scaffold Nov 1, 2018, 4:02 AM

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But you play artillery

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 4:02 AM

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but I play it well.

unique scaffold Nov 1, 2018, 4:03 AM

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But you play it. And therefore are part of the problem.

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 4:04 AM

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You wanna see part of the problem? I can drive a SU-14-1 if you want.

unique scaffold Nov 1, 2018, 4:04 AM

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Just delete all of your arty. Make everyone happy.

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 4:05 AM

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I think my teams are quite happy with me actually, and would be fine if I kept them

unique scaffold Nov 1, 2018, 4:06 AM

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Your team may be happy with you, but the majority of the playerbase is not

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 4:07 AM

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Well played artillery is actually good for the game. Cancer camping artillery players are not.

unique scaffold Nov 1, 2018, 4:08 AM

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You may be a “good” arty player, but there are 20,000 others who are not and the bad outweighs the good in this instance.

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 4:08 AM

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And if I catch them playing badly, I kill them, even if they are on my team. Believe it or not, I'm tired of lookin on the WoT subreddit

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all you find these days is gifs of bad artillery players shooting and damaging their own teams.

unique scaffold Nov 1, 2018, 4:09 AM

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There’s also still the fact that you aren’t playing by the same rules as everyone else

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 4:10 AM

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Cool, I'll make sure you get out from behind that rock rather than hide behind it the whole game.

unique scaffold Nov 1, 2018, 4:11 AM

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And that’s why PC will die. It doesn’t matter how you dress it up, when one class doesn’t have to follow the rules nobody has any fun.

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 4:12 AM

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I mean, at least I leave spawn so there's that

unique scaffold Nov 1, 2018, 4:14 AM

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It doesn’t matter how you play the class. You have an unfair advantage. Simple as that.

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 4:15 AM

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actually about 40% of my shots I have line of sight. sorry typo :p

indigo knot Nov 1, 2018, 4:16 AM

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Please buff Tiger 2, Vk4502a
They suck compared to the other tier 8 counterparts
And Sp1c to sucks a lot
Everyone yolos on it, spams he and interclip reload is too big

unique scaffold Nov 1, 2018, 4:16 AM

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You can’t make excuses. You’re basically cheating.

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 4:17 AM

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I mean I can't get banned, and I'm using artillery for what the developers actually meant it to do, unlike 99% of them

unique scaffold Nov 1, 2018, 4:18 AM

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And your point is?

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 4:19 AM

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I'm using artillery to actually prevent camping.

unique scaffold Nov 1, 2018, 4:19 AM

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By breaking the rules that everyone else has to follow.

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 4:21 AM

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Cool, I bet that if Arty gets removed you'll just start whining about TD camping because they aren't at risk of getting hit since they don't have to sit right up to the front of the bush

flat bane Nov 1, 2018, 4:21 AM

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If the 183 is removed, then people will got to the next highest dmg tank, the jg. But i understand why they want it gone. Feels bad getting 80% og your hp taken oof xD

unique scaffold Nov 1, 2018, 4:21 AM

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Why would I complain about a class that plays by the same rules as everyone else?

quick lichen Nov 1, 2018, 4:21 AM

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Jg e100 is balanced

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183 isn’t

unique scaffold Nov 1, 2018, 4:22 AM

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As I said. Does it need line-of-sight to shoot? If yes, then it’s fair.

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 4:22 AM

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Personally, I would say that artillery is bad because too many lazy players play it. If it was made better like for example, Armored Warfare's artillery, or high alpha arty didn't exist, people would be a lot less annoyed and angered by it. Also arty needs to have range nerfed.

flat bane Nov 1, 2018, 4:24 AM

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For a 183 to be "balanced" then what changes would you make? @quick lichen

quick lichen Nov 1, 2018, 4:24 AM

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Remove it

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It doesn’t fit in blitz in my opinion

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Jg has no turret, constantly low rolls, gets tracked easily, is slow etc

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It has lots of drawbacks

flat bane Nov 1, 2018, 4:25 AM

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I have 183, but i don't use it any More :GWfroggyPepoThink:

unique scaffold Nov 1, 2018, 4:25 AM

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What was Blitz like when it was a direct port from PC? I’ve heard some things from veteran players, but I never saw it myself

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 4:25 AM

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183 is basically artillery, you just sit there, aim a shot, shoot, and by the time you're spotted and people aim at you you're already behind cover. It's basically 0 risk gameplay with high reward.

quick lichen Nov 1, 2018, 4:26 AM

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183 is quick enough, 45* turret, 1300 alpha hesh with 242 mm of pen

flat bane Nov 1, 2018, 4:26 AM

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When you get heshed and set on fire

quick lichen Nov 1, 2018, 4:26 AM

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1500 damage

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 4:28 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbKbV6dHdVE this video sums it up perfectly

YouTube

Schwalbe

183 Drivers Be Like

I was originally gonna edit the WG symbol over Jerry’s face but I decided not to spend like 3 hours doing that lol I hope you enjoyed the video! Support me o...

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flat bane Nov 1, 2018, 4:28 AM

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indigo knot Nov 1, 2018, 4:30 AM

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Please buff Tiger 2, Vk4502a
They suck compared to the other tier 8 counterparts
And Sp1c to sucks a lot
Everyone yolos on it, spams he and interclip reload is too big
This tank can't even run away.... except its size and camo it has nothing going for it

flat bane Nov 1, 2018, 4:30 AM

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O yea 183 is balanced alright 👌 😂

quick lichen Nov 1, 2018, 4:31 AM

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@toxic tapir are you the same kid from afk?

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That scrimmaged us?

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So we never scrimmaged you or your team?

fossil crag Nov 1, 2018, 4:32 AM

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Dis be the PRIME boi

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 4:32 AM

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I join whoever gives me clan supply X discounts lmao

quick lichen Nov 1, 2018, 4:32 AM

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Lol

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Never mind

indigo knot Nov 1, 2018, 4:33 AM

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Please buff Tiger 2, Vk4502a
They suck compared to the other tier 8 counterparts
And Sp1c to sucks a lot
Everyone yolos on it, spams he and interclip reload is too big
This tank can't even run away.... except its size and camo it has nothing going for it
@quick lichen your thoughts???

quick lichen Nov 1, 2018, 4:33 AM

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Vk a was quite good

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I enjoyed it

wicked needle Nov 1, 2018, 4:33 AM

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I like that username "pramopaysforrng" lol

quick lichen Nov 1, 2018, 4:34 AM

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Tiger 2 is overshadowed by the lowe now

hasty juniper Nov 1, 2018, 4:34 AM

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I do agree on SP I C buff; the tank just gets fisted when caught( which is often cuz it aint no speed demon)

quick lichen Nov 1, 2018, 4:34 AM

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Sp1c needs some help but man is it a nightmare

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 4:34 AM

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Tiger II needs a buff and the VK 45.02 A could use the full 8 degrees of gun depression

quick lichen Nov 1, 2018, 4:35 AM

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Vk a was fine for me. Didn’t have any issues with gun depression

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Language please

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Just edit it for me

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I’m tired and I don’t want to mute people @toxic tapir

flat bane Nov 1, 2018, 4:36 AM

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Leo pta is the beat stock tank

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 4:36 AM

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The 45.02 has 6 and the Tiger II and Lowe have 8, as well as outright better guns, the 8 degrees on the 45.02 would be quite nice though

fossil crag Nov 1, 2018, 4:37 AM

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Just use "doo doo" for anything you wanna say bad 👌

quick lichen Nov 1, 2018, 4:37 AM

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@toxic tapir thanks man

versed night Nov 1, 2018, 4:37 AM

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There is nothing wrong with tig2

quick lichen Nov 1, 2018, 4:37 AM

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Rules are very strict

hasty juniper Nov 1, 2018, 4:37 AM

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@fossil crag ur calls are doo doo :dab:

flat bane Nov 1, 2018, 4:37 AM

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Hopefully 113 is a good tank

quick lichen Nov 1, 2018, 4:37 AM

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Tianshi has rubbed off on panda

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113 is quite good

fossil crag Nov 1, 2018, 4:38 AM

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Fake news, I had Blitzstars open, so I searched your Discord name and boom, PRIME.

quick lichen Nov 1, 2018, 4:38 AM

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Lol

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I did the same

unique scaffold Nov 1, 2018, 4:38 AM

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The vk45.02 feels like a step down from the tiger. Sure you have better alpha but it feels like tier for tier your armor becomes worthless unless it’s at a super weird angle

quick lichen Nov 1, 2018, 4:38 AM

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Vk a isn’t a step down. It’s a medium killer. A heavium and needs to be played differently

fossil crag Nov 1, 2018, 4:39 AM

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@hasty juniper i'll fite u

quick lichen Nov 1, 2018, 4:39 AM

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Use the armor and gun handling

hasty juniper Nov 1, 2018, 4:39 AM

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@fossil crag please do, panda senpai 💦

quick lichen Nov 1, 2018, 4:39 AM

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As well as mobility

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Please fight elsewhere

fossil crag Nov 1, 2018, 4:39 AM

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@hasty juniper

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hasty juniper Nov 1, 2018, 4:40 AM

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@quick lichen i fite u 2 :dab:

indigo knot Nov 1, 2018, 4:40 AM

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You get perma chat ban to.....how???

quick lichen Nov 1, 2018, 4:40 AM

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Swearing

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Most likely

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@hasty juniper can we fite tomorrow? I’m tired

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 4:41 AM

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VK 45.02 could use some small buffs though, nothing insane like that one Tiger 1 and Tiger (P) buff or the BP buff.

unique scaffold Nov 1, 2018, 4:41 AM

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T37 tho is a thing of pure beauty. Change my mind

hasty juniper Nov 1, 2018, 4:41 AM

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@quick lichen oh yes we fite with sticks

quick lichen Nov 1, 2018, 4:42 AM

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Thank you

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@hasty juniper I’m bringing a bat

indigo knot Nov 1, 2018, 4:42 AM

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I got banned for a week or so....

hasty juniper Nov 1, 2018, 4:42 AM

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I bring a tree branch

quick lichen Nov 1, 2018, 4:43 AM

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I hope it’s a big one

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Good luck swinging

hasty juniper Nov 1, 2018, 4:43 AM

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woah there fam no permanent injuries allowed.

quick lichen Nov 1, 2018, 4:43 AM

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I’m going aluminum bat. Lighter and harder

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Wound. Not kill. Got it

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The wz 120 is a good tank. Change my mind

hasty juniper Nov 1, 2018, 4:44 AM

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WZ 120-1FT is balanced. change my mind

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 4:44 AM

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rip gun depression in the WZ-120 tho lol

quick lichen Nov 1, 2018, 4:45 AM

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I agree. I bought one too and think it’s perfectly balanced @hasty juniper

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Gun depression doesn’t matter

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Good players create their own gun depression

hasty juniper Nov 1, 2018, 4:45 AM

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such a balanced tank. Could use some additional buffs to make it competitive ya know

unique scaffold Nov 1, 2018, 4:45 AM

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Besides all Chinese prem tanks having really funky ricochets and pen indicators they’re pretty balanced

quick lichen Nov 1, 2018, 4:46 AM

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121 needs a rof or alpha buff

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400 isn’t enough to be special

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420 and we are in business

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Same rof

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Then it’s +70 for a 105mm

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 4:46 AM

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yeah currently the 121 is pointless save for aim time

quick lichen Nov 1, 2018, 4:46 AM

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+110 for a 100mm

indigo knot Nov 1, 2018, 4:46 AM

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WZ120-1ft is op.....way op
Good camo, good traverse, good dpm, good penetration
It has everything going for it

quick lichen Nov 1, 2018, 4:46 AM

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Shhhhhhhhh

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Leave my wz td alone

hasty juniper Nov 1, 2018, 4:47 AM

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can you send me ur control layout for iPad WoTB? @quick lichen I'm thinking of moving back to touch for blitz since comp requires it, but I havent played it in 2+ years

fossil crag Nov 1, 2018, 4:47 AM

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I agree, please nerf it to the ground so my friends can stop bragging about their stats in it. 😏

quick lichen Nov 1, 2018, 4:47 AM

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Pm I guess

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Kinky

unique scaffold Nov 1, 2018, 4:48 AM

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I would much more prefer prem tanks to have better matchmaking than being better versions of tanks already in the game. Like if a tier 8 premium tank was really more like a 7.5 then always putting it in top tier would work perfectly

normal chasm Nov 1, 2018, 4:49 AM

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Decrease 25% to 15% alpha variation. No need for alpha buff I think

tranquil oak Nov 1, 2018, 5:07 AM

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Nerf helsing

jovial kernel Nov 1, 2018, 5:11 AM

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I bet that will go down well with a lot of people and absolutely no one would be mad about that

sour halo Nov 1, 2018, 5:11 AM

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Fix the matchmaking!!!!! Come up with an algorithm that takes into account WR, damage, and #of games played and spit out a number. Then matchmaker like in ratings battles. Who the F cares if one team has a platoon or not......MAKE IT A FAIR FIGHT

low bluff Nov 1, 2018, 5:47 AM

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@sour halo bushka already explained why random battles is like that and u clearly said rating battles is what matches players of the same rating/skill level. Random battles is for every1 and the 40%-50% learn from going against higher win rate players, if random matchmaking is the same as rating matchmaking. What is the point of having 2 of the same mode

indigo knot Nov 1, 2018, 5:48 AM

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When are going to get rating camouflage
And can we put it on 2nd most played tank???

sour halo Nov 1, 2018, 5:51 AM

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The point is, to many times I am on a team with many 40ish players while the other team has none and most of their team is 55+ players.....how is that fair? If they are give a number based on wr, damage and games played, a high player would have a low player on their team

wary prairie Nov 1, 2018, 5:52 AM

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Wr doesnt say everything

sour halo Nov 1, 2018, 5:52 AM

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Ratings numbers are only based on how well you do in a battle.....nothing like what I propose

wary prairie Nov 1, 2018, 5:53 AM

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Most Sealclubbers aint much better then 40 wr players at tier 10 but still they have 65+ wr

sour halo Nov 1, 2018, 5:53 AM

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VERY TRUE but other things do. Have an algorithm that takes several things into account and that number does not change much.

wary prairie Nov 1, 2018, 5:54 AM

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I play better vs good players tho, vs random noobs Im always taking dumb risks

sour halo Nov 1, 2018, 5:55 AM

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Then a medium player does not get stuck with a 39% and the 60% player does....doesn’t threat them fair? I am sick of 0-7 games where teams are sooooo mismatched

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Yes, so they get a rating at each tier .

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So those that have a 50+ wr because of tier 2 play, don’t have a high number in tier 8 play unless they are really good at that tier

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Ratings battles are a rating based on performance in a small portion of battles.....this would measure you over your career

wary prairie Nov 1, 2018, 5:58 AM

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Tier 8 is the only tier I cant play cause of the russian rng on all those is tanks, no matter how grey it is, bouncing they will

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But if youre good overall, doesnt mean youre good every battle, I've had bad battles as well

sour halo Nov 1, 2018, 5:59 AM

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They can figure out an algorithm that takes into account all kinds of measureables and fix this thing because it is broke right now

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Me too, but you wr, damage is based off of career, not one or two battles like the ratings battle

trail minnow Nov 1, 2018, 6:01 AM

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Hello

sour halo Nov 1, 2018, 6:01 AM

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But having battles with 5 other members in the low 40s and the other team not having any SUCKS

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I am just saying make it more of an equal field so skill can shine instead of stacking the deck against the other team

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Happy tanking

trail minnow Nov 1, 2018, 6:04 AM

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?

lofty wind Nov 1, 2018, 6:34 AM

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#NeverNerfHelsing

low bluff Nov 1, 2018, 6:42 AM

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Okay this is about the obj140

small tinsel Nov 1, 2018, 6:47 AM

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140 has its advantages

low bluff Nov 1, 2018, 6:48 AM

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The russsian meds had their OP glory before the shell pen nerfs on the tier10 meds. As of now, the laser beam more pen 62A is a little bit better. I'm not saying the 140 is lacking and the 62 is way better by a long shot. Only thing the 140 has goin for is the extra 1° of depresion and more speed. It can still perform well according to an average 60% nub like me. I feel like its been powercreeped by "a little bit" by the other tier10 meds. The other tier10 meds except the WZ121 and 140 have a higher carrying ability

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Ablity isnt the word, like how bushka says it " high ceiling"

small tinsel Nov 1, 2018, 6:49 AM

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oh and the 140 has a lower profile which means better camo and the 140 uses AP instead of APCR..

low bluff Nov 1, 2018, 6:50 AM

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Id rathe have Apcr, and the 62a compensates for 140s low profile for the goood turret with 1 weak spot the hatch

small tinsel Nov 1, 2018, 6:50 AM

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tru

prime oracle Nov 1, 2018, 6:50 AM

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I'd rather have ap

small tinsel Nov 1, 2018, 6:51 AM

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but man the slow mode really got jacked up by 15s. its really going to turn away the people around here... its unfortunate.

low bluff Nov 1, 2018, 6:51 AM

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The 140s turret can be heat spammed and pen most of the time if u can aim

small tinsel Nov 1, 2018, 6:52 AM

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but who fires HEAT nowadays with the lower.. alpha dmg? I still use it on heavies yes but on meds.. not really unless its a one shot and i need it to go in.

low bluff Nov 1, 2018, 6:54 AM

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@small tinsel id heat spam to do some damage when they cant hit me back.

small tinsel Nov 1, 2018, 6:56 AM

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i mean sure i can understand

void patrol Nov 1, 2018, 7:19 AM

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Can we get a buff on the Jpz E-100? The alpha and HE pen is a joke

solemn aurora Nov 1, 2018, 7:20 AM

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From what angle does that thing look like it needs a buff.

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It has other strengths. So it must have some weaknesses. Not everything on a tank needs to be perfect/OP.

wooden gazelle Nov 1, 2018, 7:21 AM

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Confessions of a 183 driver here, they need to shave off the tiny cupola on the JPZ E100's roof.

fossil drum Nov 1, 2018, 7:21 AM

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Lol, I don't see a problem with the jagaroo's HE damage 😂

solemn aurora Nov 1, 2018, 7:22 AM

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No they do not, it’s where I always shoot while driving a leo :p

void patrol Nov 1, 2018, 7:23 AM

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@fossil drum I said Penetration, not Damage. It has more explosive mass than the 152mm, but less pen despite having more bang

solemn aurora Nov 1, 2018, 7:23 AM

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Little thing called balance mate

fossil drum Nov 1, 2018, 7:24 AM

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"The alpha and HE pen" @void patrol

tall inlet Nov 1, 2018, 7:24 AM

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Gravedigger needs to be nerfed

solemn aurora Nov 1, 2018, 7:24 AM

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It’s got a weakass gun. What more does it need to lose.

void patrol Nov 1, 2018, 7:35 AM

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@fossil drum The alpha range of AP needs a buff. Rolling 615 on a 183. Seriously?

fossil drum Nov 1, 2018, 7:36 AM

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True, I do hate seeing 600 roles when I play it ._.

void patrol Nov 1, 2018, 7:36 AM

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@solemn aurora it as a weak gun, but its also a 6-shot autoloader. Max damage in a clip is 678, which is quite good

solemn aurora Nov 1, 2018, 7:37 AM

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Exactly, it’s balance, it’s average damage would be more near 300-450

fossil drum Nov 1, 2018, 7:38 AM

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The armor kind of compensates for the weak gun too

solemn aurora Nov 1, 2018, 7:38 AM

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It’s new too, players give feedback. WG might listen and fix it. So hang on.

small flame Nov 1, 2018, 7:45 AM

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yeah except WG never nerfs premiums

fossil drum Nov 1, 2018, 7:46 AM

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The Grave digger isn't a premium tank though, it's a collector tank

void patrol Nov 1, 2018, 8:02 AM

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@small flame Its not that they never nerf premiums. Its that they can’t. They tried it on the Type-59 on PC and got extremely negative feedback

small flame Nov 1, 2018, 8:04 AM

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im well aware @void patrol . thats why i said they never do it

copper osprey Nov 1, 2018, 8:14 AM

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Sure ??

knotty helm Nov 1, 2018, 8:16 AM

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Hi all together

unique scaffold Nov 1, 2018, 8:17 AM

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Jakieś polaki?

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Halo?

ivory fractal Nov 1, 2018, 8:18 AM

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@unique scaffold English pls

low bluff Nov 1, 2018, 8:29 AM

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Um gravedigger balanced

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If u cant pen it, aim or go around it. Learn to go against it. Plus there are some better tier7 heavys than it and others it's comparable

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I didnt grind and sleep only for 4 hours a day for nothing bcs i got it for free

sly locust Nov 1, 2018, 8:40 AM

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Good joke

minor grail Nov 1, 2018, 8:43 AM

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Gravadier when u playing at for example Rudy tiger 1 etc. u can pen him at lower plate or use premium ammunition

wary prairie Nov 1, 2018, 8:55 AM

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Premium ammunition is for nabs, just ez underplate

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Get to his side

low bluff Nov 1, 2018, 8:58 AM

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Ok dis issue again

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It's the player behind the wheel that make tanks "OP"

wary prairie Nov 1, 2018, 8:59 AM

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Mwa tanks help a lot

mellow cape Nov 1, 2018, 8:59 AM

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Some tanks are quite fool proof though

low bluff Nov 1, 2018, 8:59 AM

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Hellsing with a super duper unicum driver is the most broken thing u don't wanna see on enemy team

wary prairie Nov 1, 2018, 9:00 AM

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Yes and a super duper unicum driver in Emil aint a problem

low bluff Nov 1, 2018, 9:00 AM

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I can deal with hellsing even if it's so called "OP" by players who cant beat it

mellow cape Nov 1, 2018, 9:00 AM

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What if you have another super duper unicum on your team with is5 in that same match

wary prairie Nov 1, 2018, 9:01 AM

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Its sad that they cant nerf premiums, makes the game nice p2w

mellow cape Nov 1, 2018, 9:01 AM

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Wasn't kenni nerfed

wary prairie Nov 1, 2018, 9:02 AM

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No its still amazing

low bluff Nov 1, 2018, 9:02 AM

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@mellow cape no. OP Kenni stays the same,would be rip off for ppl who got it

wary prairie Nov 1, 2018, 9:03 AM

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They shouldve made kenni a collectable tank so they could nerf it

mellow cape Nov 1, 2018, 9:04 AM

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That would still make people angry

inner mauve Nov 1, 2018, 9:09 AM

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Remove 183s and blitz will be balanced~

prime oracle Nov 1, 2018, 9:10 AM

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@wary prairie nab

autumn night Nov 1, 2018, 9:12 AM

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o7

prime oracle Nov 1, 2018, 9:15 AM

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Hmm

wary prairie Nov 1, 2018, 9:34 AM

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Remove 183s and blitz will be balanced~

solid oracle Nov 1, 2018, 9:53 AM

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183 needs camo nerf

last spindle Nov 1, 2018, 10:18 AM

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@wary prairie who would buy smth if he knows it can always get nerfed

void patrol Nov 1, 2018, 10:28 AM

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Lmao people still asking from prems to be nerfed although WG has been crystal clear that they will never ever nerf a premium, only power creep it, to maintain the trust of their clients. I don’t see what’s the fuss about.

ember thunder Nov 1, 2018, 10:35 AM

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I found weakspot on maus AHAHAHAHA

void patrol Nov 1, 2018, 10:38 AM

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The cheeks of the turret fam. It has always been the flattest and weakest part of the tank. @ember thunder

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Jgpz E-100 needs crippling depression, but not as much as the Sturer Emil

coarse harness Nov 1, 2018, 10:46 AM

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Always that 183...

unique scaffold Nov 1, 2018, 10:57 AM

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T28prot need more speed

ancient geyser Nov 1, 2018, 10:59 AM

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Is it the Whining wall for noobs whom can’t play in front of FV183 here ?

void patrol Nov 1, 2018, 11:04 AM

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@unique scaffold And I thought people would be asking for more side armor. Like, maybe enough armor to stop a 150mm HE shell won’t hurt.

unique scaffold Nov 1, 2018, 11:07 AM

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Yes

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But nobody use he in normal game

void patrol Nov 1, 2018, 11:08 AM

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I do, very often in fact

unique scaffold Nov 1, 2018, 11:08 AM

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Someone speak french

fallow fox Nov 1, 2018, 11:11 AM

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Bonjour

unique scaffold Nov 1, 2018, 11:11 AM

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Yo

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Tu peux jouer

unique scaffold Nov 1, 2018, 11:31 AM

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@ancient geyser it looks like they are whining cause of people that are too bad to play anything else except 183.

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That tank is just broken.

ember thunder Nov 1, 2018, 11:48 AM

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@void patrol its not that

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I found a place where if u hit with HE ... u will set it on fire most of the time

strong depot Nov 1, 2018, 12:12 PM

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WARGAMING, BUFF IS-2 NOW, IT's worst tank in this game

void patrol Nov 1, 2018, 12:13 PM

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@ember thunder HE from which vehicle?

rose siren Nov 1, 2018, 12:15 PM

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Hey guys

dark pike Nov 1, 2018, 12:17 PM

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there are worse tanks than the is 2

strong depot Nov 1, 2018, 12:17 PM

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omg, yes i know, but this tank is pure sht

void patrol Nov 1, 2018, 12:18 PM

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Clearly someone has not seen/played the Game Carrier or the Toaster

strong depot Nov 1, 2018, 12:18 PM

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i know all these tanks omg

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is-2 has bad everything

tiny cairn Nov 1, 2018, 12:19 PM

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i was about to question what do you mean by that comment but then you edited it and nowbi get it

median gust Nov 1, 2018, 12:20 PM

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lol

strong depot Nov 1, 2018, 12:22 PM

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all my t7 tanks have 65% wr, is-2 only 48

tiny cairn Nov 1, 2018, 12:22 PM

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still better than my average winrate

strong depot Nov 1, 2018, 12:23 PM

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u get the point

ember thunder Nov 1, 2018, 12:24 PM

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@tiny cairn i did with only is7 ..but it can be any ht or td

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Cracked the armour 😎

dark pike Nov 1, 2018, 12:26 PM

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t28 also needs a bit of a armor buff

unique scaffold Nov 1, 2018, 12:30 PM

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Nooo t28 is very good already

high shale Nov 1, 2018, 12:40 PM

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T28 needs to be like the real T28 in wot PC

dark pike Nov 1, 2018, 12:46 PM

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elaborate please

wary prairie Nov 1, 2018, 1:00 PM

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Pls help SPIC out again, its nerfed to much

flat breach Nov 1, 2018, 1:00 PM

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cough add waffle tractor E100 back cough

spare frigate Nov 1, 2018, 1:04 PM

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buff obj140 again