#tank-balance-discussion

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modern rapids
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Lol

silk seal
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@pale saffron no it was just a little joke

torpid charm
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@ivory fractal actually pls nerf the @steady sorrel & @silk seal. These two are too OP right now.

steady sorrel
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noooooooooooo

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dont do that !

unique scaffold
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Game is balanced

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Also @steady sorrel is noob

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😄

steady sorrel
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true

unique scaffold
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I'm happy that you agree with me

steady sorrel
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@unique scaffold

unique scaffold
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😘

pale saffron
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@silk seal alright just making sure

ivory fractal
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@steady sorrel @torpid charm sadly I can’t buff anything, as I’m just a moderator. But if there was a tank that needs a buff and I get a say on it, it’ll be the 183 🇬🇧

silk seal
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My words lol

pale saffron
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I’m starting to get worried

covert hollow
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183 is a bot tank .. make it ike the pc version kick him out and put in the badger

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its so useless you playyy is7.. puff .. 183 with ap 1018 damage in your front wtf ist this

modern rapids
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Fun

covert hollow
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Not fun.. bot tank 😋

modern rapids
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Fun bot tank

covert hollow
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He destroyy from so much gamers the fun in the game

modern rapids
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Instead of getting derped by them. Derp with them instead

unique scaffold
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@steady sorrel T49 is fine, stop crying.

steady sorrel
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no ! @unique scaffold

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he is just broken

tawny sail
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T49 is in no way op or broken

elfin mortar
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they were meme'n my guy

tawny sail
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I shall sleep before I get more tired

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Sleep deprivation is fun

lapis trout
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VK 30 02D needs buff

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bcs there is no reason to play this tank, you can get indien pz. throught SP IC

elfin mortar
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ew sp 1c

unique scaffold
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But then you have to play the SP 1C

civic igloo
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Hello ppl

lapis trout
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but SP I C is good tank

queen hemlock
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^^ that

violet flame
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yeah

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SP I C is much more of a support tank

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auto loader is the best gun

sick badger
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Maybe You could balance the credit value for german t10 jageroo and leopard 1. Im losing pretty much even with premium acc. I Dont have unlimited credit boosters so I want to use them for getting money not for keeping the credits at same level. Maybe cheaper ammunition.

void pewter
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🤔

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maybe don't expect to make money at tier 10?

karmic perch
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Buff E100 please xd

void pewter
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^

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i agree with this fine gentleman

lapis trout
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E100 will need buff, after VK 72 01K will come

silk seal
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No

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E100 have better dpm

terse summit
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The grille camo is horrible

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Yet it’s got bad armor

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A grille gets spotted

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5 seconds later it loses all hp

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From 183 HESH

coarse badger
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@terse summit buy Troublemaker camo, its much better than another camos to Grille 😉

terse summit
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No I’m talking about spotting

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Grilled get spotted 290 meters away

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A few seconds later it gets erased

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And the player is sent to the garage

coarse badger
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IF you dont run CAMONET and YOU SHOT

terse summit
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Used camo net

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Got spotted 260 meters away stationary

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Behind a bush

coarse badger
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then someone is much closer to you to spot ya but you cannot spot him

terse summit
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My point is, the grille 15’s camo rating is so bad that new players will get spotted and will get wrecked by 183’s

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The 183 trend is still high and grilles are prime targets

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Once a grille gets spotted it’s all over

coarse badger
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well thats not so bad than this: Mines, tier9-X battle and you are on FV183. Once you shot, you all hole time spotted in the end of the game....

serene heart
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@terse summit I've got no problem with the grille camo, And if you're destroy just after shot, then you were badly placed, always mind about a safe retreat.

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And premium camos arr not more efficient than the standard ones, check it in camo menu IG

autumn zodiac
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But I could have sworn I had an Undeniable Advantage

cyan lichen
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Pls nerf leopard 1

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every shot in the side is a Ammorack

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and cdc too

quick lichen
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So wait

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You’re annoyed that those tanks get amor racked easily and you want to make them worse?

void pewter
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🤔

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makes sense

cyan lichen
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lol

quick lichen
cyan lichen
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😂

quick lichen
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Who let this mans in here?

cyan lichen
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I have a Link 😃

void pewter
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and this is why we can't have nice things

quick lichen
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Links don’t work if you get banned 😃

cyan lichen
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lool

void pewter
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haha yes

flat zephyr
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What has happened with rating battles? Im waiting for almost 45 mins and still no team😐

void pewter
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don't play dem

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easiest solutions

royal oak
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Mad games killed the ratings

flat zephyr
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I need to have one battle so I don't do the calibration

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There are fair amount of players in rating but no battles

void pewter
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mad games are the only good mode

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change my mind

flat zephyr
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Randoms😎

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Ez wins

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Super ultra high winrates

quick lichen
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Except there’s no stats

sullen vault
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IS7 needs a dpm buff

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If you are going to give it terrible pen,then atleast give it dpm

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Also buff the traverse speed

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how on earth is an is4 gonna beat it on traverse

void pewter
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🤔

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so you want the is7 meta to return

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i c

sullen vault
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yes indeed

void pewter
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haha yes so instead of is4s we spam is7s

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(:

sullen vault
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i like that better tho

void pewter
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yes

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easier pen

fervent ruin
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Buff obj 140 I came back to the game and it’s still as bad as it was in June

sullen vault
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140 isnt bad tho

coarse badger
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pls remove all/comeing tierX prems to tier9

flat bane
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Give E3 back its 1900 hp

coarse badger
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there is no idea of tierX prems

desert ridge
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Yes there is @coarse badger

slow lava
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Is T95 gonna Get balance

coarse badger
desert ridge
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@coarse badger?

slow lava
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Jagtig And su112-54 are pretty op compared to T95

desert ridge
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Su is balanced @slow lava

coarse badger
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its clue for ya, chech the vid

slow lava
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T95 is not

coarse badger
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t95 isnt prem, its just powerfull OP TD in tier9 just like SU12254 😉

desert ridge
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T95 not op @coarse badger

gaunt coyote
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Buff T95😏

sullen vault
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T95 does need a buff

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heavily

desert ridge
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Buff all tanks 50%

coarse badger
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_all tanks are OP if you know how to use it_ by one good player

flat zephyr
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@coarse badger completely not

gaunt coyote
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Btw as WG is making some of the low tier premiums into collector vehicles that means they can balance them. Which seems wrong.
Anyone agree with me?

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I mean if they can do that. What stops them from doing the same thing to like Dracula and other OP prems...

flat zephyr
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How could a t28 be op😐

gaunt coyote
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@flat zephyr I am talking about the low tier Premium tanks

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such as Pz. II J

flat zephyr
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I was replying to @coarse badger

flat bane
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Buff e4s turret top

flat zephyr
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But I agree with you

flat bane
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Coppola

gaunt coyote
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oh my bad

flat zephyr
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I am sure some higher tier tanks will turn to collectable

gaunt coyote
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Dracula becoming a collector's vehicle=It is nerfable

flat zephyr
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Maybe the hybrid nation tanks become collectable

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They don't earn much credits

gaunt coyote
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they do earn like regular prems

flat zephyr
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No they don't

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Drac doesn't make credit

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Also 0-47 / edelweiss

gaunt coyote
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If you say so...

flat zephyr
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0-47 sucks credit

gaunt coyote
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I have not got that tank so I can not really say anything about it.

earnest cobalt
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150% coefficient aint that bad, its still alot better than tech tree tanks

flat zephyr
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I have almost all of the premiums and I know some are quiet underperforming

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@earnest cobalt but its not as the good premium ones

earnest cobalt
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All the best credit machines are on tier8

gaunt coyote
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Yea they make different amount of credits but it makes more credits than regular tier 8's

flat zephyr
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And BTW, I'm thinking of premium's not getting nerfed🤔. We had a lot of nerfs in premium tanks as I remember

earnest cobalt
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Worst tier8 has better than best tier7 credit coefficient

flat zephyr
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But without an official announcement

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@earnest cobalt agree

earnest cobalt
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Ez to agree with pure facts 😉

flat zephyr
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Yep

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But still we need balancing in premium tanks

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Like kv5-panter8.8 and some I don't remember now. They are all meh

gaunt coyote
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KV-5 is meh @flat zephyr LOL

flat zephyr
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It was even more meh when I first bought it 3 years ago

gaunt coyote
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wow this is a 🤦 time

queen hemlock
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@flat zephyr says a lot of things and knows for sure, but does not present source or proof?! 🤔

flat zephyr
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My proof is my experience 😎

queen hemlock
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We had a lot of nerfs in premium tanks as I remember .. which ones then?

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Patches? Dates?

flat zephyr
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I completely remember the super Pershing's armor for a long time

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It does not act the same now against the same tanks

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The update I noticed that was before last year's Halloween

queen hemlock
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Yeah, that completely proves the point

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Maybe people learned to aim properly?

gaunt coyote
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Superpershing is amazing😎

flat zephyr
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Not the aim

queen hemlock
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T26E4 is riddled with weak spots

flat zephyr
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The lower plates armor and even upper plate now gets penned

gaunt coyote
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Yea but I still luv it

flat zephyr
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Much easier it used to get penned

gaunt coyote
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Can you remember when it hat that horrible pen😂

flat zephyr
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Yep

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That time it had better armor

queen hemlock
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It didn;t

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It does not get to feast on tier VI anymore

flat zephyr
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Not way that much

queen hemlock
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Remember driving an M4A3E8 and then going up against a hull down Super P?

flat zephyr
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I do

queen hemlock
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Or when the IS-6 only had the old gun?

gaunt coyote
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Powercreep is real. Tiger II used to be a rather tough guy to destroy but nowadays I destroy them too easily and I miss the old days.

ivory fractal
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Ahh the nostalgia

flat zephyr
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Also remember super Pershing facing tier 10 ez pen

queen hemlock
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T26E4 was not nerfed statwise. It's your experience

gaunt coyote
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Yep

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Stock KV-4 was nice against a Maus😎

queen hemlock
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Super P has monstruous APCR pen for its tier. Same as the regular Pershing

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@gaunt coyote LOL

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Stock Centurion 😂

flat zephyr
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@queen hemlock that's the thing. I haven't noticed it myself but some players were saying it's frontal armor was decreased by 10

queen hemlock
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were saying

gaunt coyote
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I can remember that day for the rest of my life. I did not afford any pramo or to get a 75% or any equipment so yea the tank barely turned or moved from spawn.

queen hemlock
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Patchnotes please, because I can;t remember that

flat zephyr
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I responded them the usual: premiums dont get a nerf

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But I'm kinda sure now that super Pershing doesn't have the armor it used to have

gaunt coyote
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T26E4 feels strong against mediums and now even heavies as it does not have to spam 20 APCR shells in their face and get balmed for gold spamming noob.

flat zephyr
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It does no doubts

queen hemlock
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June 2016 ^^

flat zephyr
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Wow nice

gaunt coyote
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Man I miss the old version of the hud in garage.

queen hemlock
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October 2018 ^^

gaunt coyote
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oh it has been buffed by 1mm

queen hemlock
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Here's my old review

gaunt coyote
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The thing is that it is not nerfed. Other tanks have just became better.

flat zephyr
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I'll have a look on that

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@gaunt coyote I don't remember t34's pen to get a buff

queen hemlock
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That is still old matchmaking and a voice over that will make you cringe 😂

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T34 didn;t get a pen buff

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It did get traverse and RoF buffs

gaunt coyote
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@flat zephyr Yes and? It has a tier 8 TD gun

flat zephyr
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That's fine. I like to feel the old times

gaunt coyote
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Wonder why it can pen it😂

flat zephyr
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@queen hemlock oo that RoF thing seriously made me happy

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I remember everytime I faced is6, I was dead no doubt. Is6 loaded 3 seconds faster I think

gaunt coyote
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faster than?

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what?

flat zephyr
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T34

gaunt coyote
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oh yea

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IS-6 still has that gun😉

flat zephyr
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And since is6 is much faster, it would reach you anyways

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@gaunt coyote yea I play with it sometimes

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Love it when enemy calls me hacker cause my loading time

gaunt coyote
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IS-6 has a bad mobility for AN IS series tank🤔

flat zephyr
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It was pretty mobile. At least better that t34. Way better

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When provision's were added, t34 got that part a bit covered

gaunt coyote
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Also T34 got 200 more HP

flat zephyr
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😂

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It had less HP than a tier 7 heavy

gaunt coyote
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Yep, most of them

flat zephyr
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I miss the old premium shells

gaunt coyote
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huh?

flat zephyr
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They did equall damage as standard ammo

gaunt coyote
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I do not miss them.

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Good balancing factor

flat zephyr
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I completely do

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Well if it was so nice thing so they would do the same in WOT too. But I hate it

gaunt coyote
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I kind of wish that premium shells would have done more dmg and have equal/worse pen than regular shells (of course buffing the pen of horrible pen tanks such as Maus, Valentine II and what not)

flat zephyr
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Like 130 guns on isu-130 and su100y?

gaunt coyote
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yea

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and Tankeinstein

flat zephyr
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There is no difference

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You pay a bit credit for higher damage

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Or you pay a bit credit for higher pen

gaunt coyote
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Yea, but you would have worse pen=armour would finally actually mean something

flat zephyr
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I would go with pen

gaunt coyote
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Bruh

flat zephyr
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When they can't pen you with ap- its better

gaunt coyote
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Maybe I am just tired of gold spamming @#€@& when I am playing my Maus. But I am tired of players that do not even bother to aim and just isntantly tap the 2 key and laugh at 300mm of effective armour.

flat zephyr
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So what?

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Premium shells are part of the game

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Facing a JG.E100 with 380 heat pen, they should laugh at any armor

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Or 340 on most heavies

gaunt coyote
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Feels pointless to drive a Maus when the only thing that it has is armour and it gets pretty much nullified when 60% of players come and spam gold shells.
What do you do in that situation with a Maus?
Nothing as you don't have a good pen, dpm or mobility. Sure you have team mates but still. Pointless.

flat zephyr
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I guess you are on EU server right? And I think you have enough tournament experience. If you can't bounce premium shells there maus is no use

gaunt coyote
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@flat zephyr Of course I can bounce premium shells when I have an actual team that can play and have my back when I can not angle at every direction at the same time.

flat zephyr
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Seriously have you noticed any differences before and after damage change? Yeah it was different at first but now any noob would do that again

gaunt coyote
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Not really still the brainless @#&@€ comes and instantly spams gold.
Which I get from a T-62A and what not but A Jg.Pz.E 100 or a 268. That is just pointless.

flat zephyr
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Also if the premium shells do same amount of damage, think about maus. It has decent premium shell penetration

gaunt coyote
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Still pointless

flat zephyr
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And it is tall enough to decrease effective armor on IS tanks or any other

gaunt coyote
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It is true but seriously TD's that can pen you even in perfect angle just spam gold. Why?

flat zephyr
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Because they are TDS

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They only have guns

gaunt coyote
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Well that is a good reason🤦

flat zephyr
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Most of themhave no turret,most of them are not fast

gaunt coyote
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How does that affect on the fact that they can pen the turret when angled perfectly with AP.
BUT instead here comes the premium shells...

flat zephyr
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No differences. If they can pen with ap then no use

gaunt coyote
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So they just decrease the DPM to annoy me

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that is flipping fantastic

flat zephyr
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Have you been heshed frontly from a 183 in a maus?

gaunt coyote
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Nope

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not really

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tryin to avoid those dummies

flat zephyr
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Well I got heshed many times fully looking at a 183

gaunt coyote
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#uselessgoldspam

flat zephyr
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So when I would get heshed in the face, is there no differences getting penned with ap- heat- etc.

gaunt coyote
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Prob not but the FV has HESH that actually has the higher alfa dmg than regular shells.

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Which is something that I liked the premium shells to be

flat zephyr
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Hesh has a different story. But I still want the damage back

gaunt coyote
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But IDC noobs come along and spam ur dummy premium shells against me for no reason.

I am off👋

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Mute this with the other servers

flat zephyr
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@gaunt coyote but look it this way: jg had it's heat as normal ammo and ap as premium. You would like that?

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That a jg would never miss a shot

gaunt coyote
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Like I said. IDC anymore silly game without a point.
Big story has been revealed to me once again. Good time to uninstall once again.

velvet edge
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lmao

queen hemlock
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#thatescalatedquickly

desert ridge
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Yep

river portal
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Ahoy

full willow
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👀

flat zephyr
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@queen hemlock I don't blame him. I don't like blitz anymore either even after all these tanks I bought

river portal
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@gaunt coyote game ok playera base is bad

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Look cws we used to beat ok teams with 7 bc25t

stoic pebble
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how do you even manage that

flat zephyr
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Clanwars are the only part I still enjoy

river portal
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Cws the best thing

flat zephyr
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That it's done for now. Twister offline finals coming

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Then nothing to do

river portal
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But you play for it all year

flat zephyr
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Tournaments aren't fun

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Especially qt

stoic pebble
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what about mad games? or is that too casual

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i found it a nice breath of fresh air from the years of playing normally

flat zephyr
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Haven't it become normal for you? It was nice and fun. It is still fun but it won't last long

river portal
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Qt best

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Cause you take it seriously

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Look l1ve

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We play ot for fun

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7 bc25t

flat zephyr
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I prefer tourney's that gave us gold

river portal
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7 leo1

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Tier 9

flat zephyr
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Not some pointless amount of credit

river portal
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No more tournament give gold

flat zephyr
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Yeah that's the part I hate

river portal
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Also tournaments nowadays are not rewarding

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You put time on it

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And get back Nothing

flat zephyr
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Tournament's used to be fun and rewarding

river portal
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Yes

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Must give lot of credit

sick badger
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Tours now is trash rewards for the time spending

flat zephyr
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But since no fun remains on blitz, it is gone

sick badger
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Like ascent tournaments b4

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30 minutes between games

river portal
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But 2h30 forr all tournament

flat zephyr
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Like you spent 4 hours for ascent tourney and at max: 1.5 million credit

sick badger
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1 hour + if You did go straight for finals

flat zephyr
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I can make that in an hour

river portal
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Well i had lot of fun this twister season

stoic pebble
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its even easier to make that amount of credits playing mad games

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so much easy damage at T8

sick badger
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Yeah it was fun But shorter waiting Times more games more rewards

flat zephyr
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@stoic pebble and so much 0 damages

stoic pebble
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yup

river portal
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Tthat the point

stoic pebble
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fun gamemode attracts people who only play for fun

river portal
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Win first place

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Or no reward

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That so bad

flat zephyr
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@sick badger waiting time is ok I guess cause it was 30 mins even before

river portal
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Bad for competition

flat zephyr
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But they were much more rewarding

sick badger
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It didnt Feel like it was worth it to Stay Up

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I sleeped like 4 hours to play

river portal
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Bro 40 days of twister tournaments

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We took second place

sick badger
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Then at least a Nice reward

river portal
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Only 850 gold

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No camo

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No tanks

flat zephyr
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Ez

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That's the actual thing that made me give up from tournaments

sick badger
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It stop feelinh worth it when You Cant get any Good reward

river portal
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Exactly

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Look

coarse badger
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@flat zephyr t28 isnt good

river portal
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You see that asia team

flat zephyr
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No it isn't

river portal
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In twister

sick badger
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Feast?

river portal
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And eu have lot of better team

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Than faust

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Feast yes

sick badger
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Asia teams are so funny

river portal
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No tactics

sick badger
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Even esa Better sometimes

river portal
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Maybe no voice

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Yes

sick badger
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Lmao

river portal
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Look finals lol

sick badger
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😂

river portal
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Na ok

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Have pramo

sick badger
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HRF

river portal
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And pincer

sick badger
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OP player

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Russians are Good

flat zephyr
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Back to the topic, tournaments need buff in reward

river portal
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Agree

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Big buff

sick badger
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Totally agree

flat zephyr
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At least 2 million credit for a set of qt

sick badger
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Yeah

flat zephyr
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In one attempt

sick badger
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And Gold

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Also a camo as a reward for top places in twister cup season

river portal
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If you are cw player you should live from cws rewards

sick badger
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That would be Nice

river portal
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I mean you don't nwed to farm credit

sick badger
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Yeah we did

flat zephyr
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@river portal yes you do

sick badger
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But we Cant do that now

flat zephyr
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No one wants to enter a tough tourney and win and get out with nothing

river portal
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From more than 3 months i didnt need credit

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Because i did play all tournaments

flat zephyr
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@river portal thats for the time equipment's didn't need credits

river portal
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Miss only 1 qt in all twister

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But now im out

sick badger
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Thats also a thing

river portal
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Taking break

flat zephyr
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Now you need credit for tier10 or your lines

river portal
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Cause i didnt like the rewards

flat zephyr
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@river portal cause there was nothing

river portal
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Exactly

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Only my friends bought me gold cause i did lead the team all the season :GWqlabsKek:

sick badger
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I think Wg Can be more generous with the reward Cuz its we Who Keep tours alive

flat zephyr
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It's like: stay awake every night- spend 2-3 hours every day and lots of effort and experience for something you could earn in half an hour

sick badger
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Yup

river portal
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Especially qt

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Lol sometimes you lose credit

flat zephyr
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@river portal specially if you don't come out first

river portal
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Yes

flat zephyr
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It's literally enter a tournament with X credit- exit with X😐

sick badger
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🤨

river portal
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And what wg do bad

flat zephyr
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Removal of old tournament

river portal
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And what wg do bad

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Take long time to fix something

flat zephyr
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I still have my tickets to gold and silver tourneys

river portal
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Same

flat zephyr
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It takes too much time actually that they lose a lot for it

river portal
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Random games ok

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But i hate when players panic

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They die fast

flat zephyr
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Randoms are ok, other things are now not ok

river portal
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Enmies rekt you after so fast

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Nice conversation guys

flat zephyr
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Yep

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Gn. I gtg

river portal
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I must sleep

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Good night

sick badger
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Gn bros

royal oak
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Just finished reading all the last messages sent less than an hour ago, like to be ready for concersation but everyone going to sleep lol

coarse badger
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@royal oak this is worldwide channel, not an European 😂

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NA is 6h after EU-time and Asia nearly 6h before us in EU

sick badger
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Im still here

desert ridge
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@coarse badger you are stupid

sick badger
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Ey relax

desert ridge
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No need

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Yes

sick badger
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Lol

ivory fractal
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Stay on topic and speak English

coarse badger
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@sick badger did you know that ESA means name in the Finnish? 😄

sick badger
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Nope

coarse badger
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Name of the boy*

sick badger
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Im Swedish

coarse badger
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Lol

sick badger
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But Stay topix now

coarse badger
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Yeah yeah

stoic pebble
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Here's a topic for y'all: Is the Object 140 in a good spot compared to the T-62A? Is it underpowered or is it good where it is?

desert ridge
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Underpower

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But 268 and 263 need buff

spark orchid
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T-62A is OP 😎

quick lichen
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268 doesn’t need a buff

lethal forge
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^^

quick lichen
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Foch 155 gun accuracy needs a massive buff

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Might as well be a t49 gun

coarse badger
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@quick lichen which one Foch? 🤔

lethal forge
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Neither 263 or 268 need a buff @desert ridge

stoic pebble
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wat

coarse badger
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And blody hell with me...

stoic pebble
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i think you pinged the wrong person

lethal forge
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My bad

stoic pebble
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its fine

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anyway

quick lichen
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Foch 155 has the worst gun in tier x

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Change my mind

stoic pebble
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I feel like the 140 cant perform the role the devs wanted it to perform

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the T62A can be a defensive tank with stronk dpm and mobility

queen hemlock
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I don't understand why the gun had to change, yet it stayed nearly the same on 140

stoic pebble
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but since wg tried to make the 140 more of a flanking tank

queen hemlock
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Except 5mm lower pen

stoic pebble
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and then nerfed the turret

quick lichen
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140 has been dead since the turret nerf

stoic pebble
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its difficult to combat heavies

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when up close at least

quick lichen
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121 if it had dpm would be the obvious choice for a medium

queen hemlock
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^^

stoic pebble
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hell, I play the 140 like a slow leopard

queen hemlock
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That has become better

spark orchid
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T62 with only 1 cupola💪

stoic pebble
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because that's basically what it is

queen hemlock
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The original 121 was a real poo poo tank

coarse badger
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All remembers WG's med nerf... 😶

stoic pebble
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it was probably for the best

quick lichen
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It’s been a journey

stoic pebble
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yup

quick lichen
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140 meta

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Nerf med pen

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M60 short meta

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Nerf m60

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Heavy meta

hasty juniper
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Y'all think the 113 will get nerfed?

quick lichen
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Wait

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What can pen heavies?

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Td spam

hasty juniper
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bcuz i thinking of free xping to it

quick lichen
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@hasty juniper no

hasty juniper
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kk

quick lichen
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They better buff the traverse

stoic pebble
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dont free xp to the 113 go play the 110 and have fun while you can

quick lichen
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It’s criminal

stoic pebble
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before the vk 100.01 comes out

hasty juniper
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@stoic pebble I might do that

stoic pebble
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and sacks you

hasty juniper
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o?

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Perhaps i get both

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100.01 sounds fun

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budget Maus

stoic pebble
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apparently its super powerful on PC

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we can only wait to see how strong it is in blitz

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with the smaller team and map sizes

unique scaffold
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Mediums need a buff

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Foch 155 needs a buff

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Mediums were what balanced all tank types of tier 10

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You nerf them and now you see heavies and now with heavies, you see TDs

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Medium are the example of skill

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Heavies and TDs take the least skill to play out of all tank types

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Sure 140 was broken

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But why nerf all mediums for

uncut belfry
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heavy tanks take least skill to play?

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And how about mediums basically ignoring armour and shooting gold with higher pen amd same damage, higher cost, and the mediums have great mobility

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and in some cases amazing gun depression

hasty juniper
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no armor ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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thats what set them apart from the HTs

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M48 only had turret armor if u couldnt aim

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140 i agree was broken

uncut belfry
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and mobility sets them apart

hasty juniper
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i mean, w/o mobility what would they be

uncut belfry
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pre prammo nerf, yes

unique scaffold
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Why does the Foch 155 have -5 degrees of gun depression and -6/6 degrees of gun arc when Foch has -6 degrees gun depression and -10/10 degrees of gun arc just like PC and Console Foch and Foch 155

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This seriously makes the tank feel impaired

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Loss of elevation on the Foch 155 as well

quick lichen
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Because the gun is much bigger internally

small flame
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i would personally love them to introduce more Tier 10 lights so the bat chat wont get tunneled so hard

frozen nymph
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river portal
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@quick lichen well man on blitzstars tanks data say obj140 do better tgan t63

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62

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Avg damage and wr

quick lichen
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Um ok

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That’s pubs

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I don’t care about that

river portal
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Yup maybe old good players still play 140

quick lichen
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Also stats aren’t indicative of if the tank is better

bold dagger
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i actually prefer the 140 because it's slightly more mobile, 20% more gun depression, and gets AP shells

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and better accuracy on the move. but the 62A has better HEAT pen, way stronger turret

river portal
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T62 gun is monster

bold dagger
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and better dispersion. like, they're both decent tbh

quick lichen
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T26e4 is a good example of a good tank that’s not averaging a ton

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Too slow to have a high average

bold dagger
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t26 worst tier 8 med dont @ me

quick lichen
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Stock panther 2

bold dagger
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at least they finally fixed the mantlet

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so sluggish and the bloom on the t26 is terrible

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hard to hit moving targets even when still

river portal
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Leo 1 best med maybe

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I mean best farmer

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In random

quick lichen
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Leo is an American sized light tank

unique scaffold
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Use the !rank command to join a rank

jovial edge
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Use the !rank command to join a rank

bold dagger
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i think the best med currently at Tier X is the E 50 M with the decreased dispersion and the increased accuracy. real hulldown beast

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@unique scaffold no

river portal
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No best tank at tier x man

unique scaffold
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Use the !rank command to join a rank

river portal
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If wg did good thing un this game

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They did make tier x balanced

bold dagger
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compare 4202 vs E 50 M

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i know Tier X is supposed to be balanced

river portal
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Except few tanks

quick lichen
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Stb is the best medium

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For an elite player

bold dagger
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it doesnt have any armor next to the gun tho

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above it yes

quick lichen
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Doesn’t need it

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Don’t get shot

bold dagger
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well if you go up to take a shot while hulldown, you can get penned

quick lichen
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Use camo net

jovial edge
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Or don’t poke

bold dagger
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but you have to move to get your gun up

quick lichen
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You can’t get shot if you’re not spotted

bold dagger
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doesnt that reset the net?

quick lichen
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You definitely can’t get shot if you’re in the garage

bold dagger
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or at least half it's value

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true

quick lichen
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You’ve got it all wrong

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Mediums drive and cap bases and hide

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No shooting

steady sorrel
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Rebalance T49!

empty ice
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T49 is fine as it is

karmic perch
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STB and Batchat for Elite comp players 100%

unique scaffold
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@steady sorrel dude shut up about the T49

steady sorrel
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realy ? @unique scaffold

unique scaffold
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Really

steady sorrel
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how old Are You to tell me what i need to do ?

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tell me

quick lichen
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T49 seems fine to me

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@steady sorrel

unique scaffold
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Old enough. Stop repeatedly whining about a tank. It's annoying.

steady sorrel
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one shot and its okey ?

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i play on him 1k battles

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and i know how now works after nerf

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@unique scaffold You dont need to read simple as that

unique scaffold
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Stop crying

steady sorrel
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i cry ?:D

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You cry omg

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😄

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@unique scaffold look on You. And i still wait for answer

river portal
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@unique scaffold lol man what your problem

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he have problme with t49 respect his opinion mario old and good player in the game

quick lichen
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Maybe a lot of us are tired of people complaining @river portal

unique scaffold
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What is this phone a friend?

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There is too much crying going on.

quick lichen
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The t49 is balanced as it is. You have to run calibrated shells so it destroys its dpm. It has 0 armor and is an he magnet. The gun has heat that can only pen sides of Germans and rear plates of soviets. Most of the time you use he to splash for 150-250 every 16.3 seconds with the occasional pen for 800. The derp gun is the reason why you play the tank. It can be amazing one moment and atrocious the next

river portal
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true

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not like 183

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t49 can bully only no armor tanks

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183 can bully all

quick lichen
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I’ve been on this server for 3 days and people have cried over 5-6 tanks already

river portal
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for that i used to say my problem with 183 is ap pen not hesh pên

quick lichen
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It gets old quick

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The problem is the whole tank

unique scaffold
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^

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Just showing up and repeatedly saying "balance this" is unproductive and repetitive as hell. If you have ideas on how then say them. Don't just keep repeating the same dumb thing. @steady sorrel

river portal
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lol he did only 1 time i think

quick lichen
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It’s not just him

river portal
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but yeah players cry about all tanks

quick lichen
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That’s not true

steady sorrel
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but When You cry about FV183 its fine ?

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yes ?

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really ?

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for me Fv183 is fine

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i cant say he is bad or good

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cuz is just RNG on him and MM

quick lichen
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Why is the t49 broken?

steady sorrel
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if someone see FV183 everyone target him

river portal
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not brokernn but no armor tank suffer

quick lichen
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Focus fire doesn’t equal balance

steady sorrel
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broken beciuse of Aiming time and Reload

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@quick lichen the same cuz FV do 1k dmg avg in 20 sec dont mean he is OP or too good

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...

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really use brain

quick lichen
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Uh what?

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It does 1300 without being spotted

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Camping in any corner or place it wants

river portal
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camo and ap pen

steady sorrel
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and ?

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same Grille

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in 2 shots

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and ?

quick lichen
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Grille is an he magnet

river portal
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nah mariow

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fv bad tank

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funny bad bad

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but*

quick lichen
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It’s lost it’s traverse

steady sorrel
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It is TD he need to be unspotted

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omg

quick lichen
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And top speed

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The grille is the worst tier x td

river portal
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but not logic

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big tank

steady sorrel
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i can pen FV from my wt auf PZ IV simple like on grille

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and ?

river portal
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with great camo

flat zephyr
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@quick lichen no foch 155 is

quick lichen
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Not at all

steady sorrel
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omg

quick lichen
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Foch has the worst gun

steady sorrel
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You cry cuz You die from FV thatmany times ?

quick lichen
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Not the worst td

flat zephyr
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And woest aiming arc

river portal
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foch155 my love

steady sorrel
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is simple if You dont know where to drive or play on turret You will get shot from FV

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simple

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just learn how to play

unique scaffold
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Who said Foch is worst TD?

steady sorrel
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best opition for crying about FV

unique scaffold
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quick lichen
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Lol. Just guess where the 183 is at every single point of the game

unique scaffold
fossil crag
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Can not believe someone just said Foch 155 is worst TD.

unique scaffold
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@fossil crag ikr

steady sorrel
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@quick lichen than why You cry about FV ?

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simple blind shot

unique scaffold
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I think I should ban them

steady sorrel
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easy

fossil crag
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Must be living under a rock

flat zephyr
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I still say

unique scaffold
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What u think? @fossil crag

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Ban or no ban?

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🤔

quick lichen
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People have a hard time driving forward and shooting and you think they can predict where the 183 is?😂

steady sorrel
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that mean they should not play on X tier

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if they cry about FV

fossil crag
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I think it will be a biased opinion if I say yes, since we both think Foch 155 is clearly best.

unique scaffold
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183 is broken. That tank is not for blitz imo

river portal
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i have 1700 game on foch155

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just cant keep the gun like that

quick lichen
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Lol the best players in blitz all want the 183 gone

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What are you on about?

flat zephyr
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Id foch had like 20 reverse speed it would be great

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But it can't get back fast

unique scaffold
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@quick lichen that’s not true

steady sorrel
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@quick lichen who ?

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i dont know that players

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tell me that OP players

unique scaffold
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The issue isn’t the tank, it’s the number of them

steady sorrel
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please

quick lichen
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You need a list?

unique scaffold
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I know I'm in the minority here but my issue with the 183 is the number of them. When you have 4 183's in a game plus 4 other TD's it kind of sucks.

steady sorrel
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i know only couple of them

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yes @quick lichen

quick lichen
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Lol

unique scaffold
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@unique scaffold no I agree with u 100%

steady sorrel
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tell me who is that op and cry about FV

unique scaffold
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@fossil crag Foch is love

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😏

river portal
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foch best

steady sorrel
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foch is op

unique scaffold
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Oyus

river portal
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but make me cry sometimes

unique scaffold
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My kinda people

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❤️

river portal
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when grill is 20 m away from me

steady sorrel
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xD

unique scaffold
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Solution. Make the 183 incredibly expensive to play.

river portal
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but i miss

unique scaffold
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@river portal IKR

river portal
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and miss 2 more times

unique scaffold
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I am not afraid of pro players in 183. I am adraid of noobs in it.
You never know where will noob in 183 go and when you find them on the dumbest spot for 183 it is basically -1000+hp if u drive med

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The gun trolls soooo hard

steady sorrel
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@unique scaffold cuz You dont know how to play ?

river portal
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lol yes

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some days i do 3k avg on it

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but others i fails

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not like 268

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ez 3k avg

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always

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i mean in bad days you do 3k avg on 268

unique scaffold
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@steady sorrel says the guy crying about the T49

steady sorrel
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@unique scaffold really ? You dont know what is a Joke ?

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i write that every day

flat zephyr
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@river portal because it's the best td

river portal
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yes

steady sorrel
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o m g kids

river portal
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that true

unique scaffold
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That's my point. It's annoying.

steady sorrel
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@unique scaffold for me annoying is Yur cry now about that

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simple

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Yours*

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sorry im not english man if i make some gramar

unique scaffold
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Good thing I'm indifferent to your feelings.

steady sorrel
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@unique scaffold You think FV should be delete from game ?

unique scaffold
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Ultimately whatever we think is irrelevant

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WG will never remove it

steady sorrel
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i will ask Honour, HerrMroz, Object3, Xenodium and MadWilli about FV

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but i think they will say the same as me

quick lichen
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And their opinions are worth more

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Lol

river portal
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remove fv kill the fun

unique scaffold
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Yes @quick lichen

river portal
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many stay in the game to play 183

unique scaffold
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They are some of the best players on EU currently

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@quick lichen

steady sorrel
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maybe simple just give STB-1 more armor to let kids rush and bounce from every tank

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that will be better ?

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@quick lichen the best players in EU

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for You

river portal
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specialist best player on eu

steady sorrel
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ye and @wooden isle

river portal
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he like 183

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he play leo1 most

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doing 3.7k avg on it

unique scaffold
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👀

river portal
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and he have no problem with 183

unique scaffold
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Yikes

steady sorrel
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yes

river portal
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even he played 3k gamle on leo1

frozen nymph
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unique scaffold
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That’s a lot of damage

steady sorrel
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for PRO players FV is no problem

river portal
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he love leo1

quick lichen
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For them personally? No

unique scaffold
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Are you trying to say that you are pro

quick lichen
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For their teams? Yes

steady sorrel
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just for players that play first time and GO fast as they can to tier X and aftercry cuz drive backward to FV

river portal
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i talk about someone

unique scaffold
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Teams will die whether 183 exists or not

river portal
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and pramo players are pors yes

steady sorrel
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yea 😄

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Pramo pro ha

quick lichen
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They die within 3 minutes if 183s are hitting shots

steady sorrel
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omg

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please dont do that @quick lichen

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PRAMO is just random clan

unique scaffold
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😂

steady sorrel
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for me best is C4

quick lichen
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“Random clan”

steady sorrel
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and ?

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nothing special

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show me now You are in Twister finals ?

river portal
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nah pramo good clan

quick lichen
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Pramo is the only clan to go to every offline

steady sorrel
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only good

unique scaffold
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Okay now this is just absurd.

river portal
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best in NA

steady sorrel
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yes yes

frozen nymph
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steady sorrel
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On NA

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only

river portal
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they dont have competetion like eu

steady sorrel
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yes

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exactly

river portal
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nah they work lot

unique scaffold
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@quick lichen well that is probably cause Na is not that competitive. But yeah pramo is good

river portal
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but dont have comptetion

steady sorrel
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no competition no words

quick lichen
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No competition in na but pramo beats r2k

frozen nymph
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quick lichen
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Lol ok

frozen nymph
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steady sorrel
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same R2K beat LGN

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you beat LGN ?

frozen nymph
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unique scaffold
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Well r2k were 3rd

quick lichen
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Legion didn’t play since twister lol

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What are you on about?

unique scaffold
frozen nymph
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steady sorrel
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come to EU server on one twister

unique scaffold
steady sorrel
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show YOu skill to win here in offline

unique scaffold
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Two tanks that need some sort of adjustment are the KV-2 and the 183

quick lichen
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I disagree on the kv2

unique scaffold
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No point fighting about this. Twister will show everything

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Make the 183 expensive as hell to play and Nerf the velocity on the 152 KV-2 round

quick lichen
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If you miss your shot you’re pretty much dead

unique scaffold
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Not when you are some 40%er playing it like a 183...

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KV-2 is not OP

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It’s similar to the T49 in many regards

frozen nymph
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quick lichen
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Both tanks have massive draw backs

frozen nymph
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unique scaffold
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Poor pen, poor gun handling, and long long reload

frozen nymph
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unique scaffold
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@frozen nymph agreed

quick lichen
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Su doesn’t have a turret and slow traverse

frozen nymph
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quick lichen
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@frozen nymph it has one

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90 mm

frozen nymph
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unique scaffold
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No I don’t think so @frozen nymph

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The T49 outperform all other tier 8 lights in damage

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I think it’s place in the meta is fine

frozen nymph
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unique scaffold
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I just dislike how the KV-2 rewards bad players. Sitting in the back one shotting tier V's isn't good for the health of the game.

river portal
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what about su100m?

quick lichen
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Su 100m is fine

unique scaffold
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Nerf the velocity of the 152 so it can't be played like that.

river portal
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stupid tank

unique scaffold
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@river portal the tier 7?

river portal
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2 of gun depression man

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yes t7

frozen nymph
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unique scaffold
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I think it’s underpowered

quick lichen
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It’s not a tank you keep

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It’s a tank you grind and sell

river portal
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also not talk to play 70 battles with

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op dpm buy 2 of gun depression

unique scaffold
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Considering tier 7 has so many great TDs the 100m gets overshadowed I think

river portal
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su152 bro

unique scaffold
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Why play 100m when you can play SU-152

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@river portal exactly

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😄

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I love the 152

river portal
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ez damage farming

unique scaffold
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Oyus 🔥

frozen nymph
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river portal
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you farm damage on su more than tier 8 heavys

frozen nymph
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unique scaffold
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@frozen nymph different playstyles

frozen nymph
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unique scaffold
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^

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I used to have 2900 in it

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But then I fell

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😭

frozen nymph
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unique scaffold
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How many games?

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Currently

frozen nymph
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unique scaffold
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Dang

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Impressive

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I fell to 2700

frozen nymph
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unique scaffold
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I’m a noob

frozen nymph
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unique scaffold
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It’s aight

frozen nymph
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unique scaffold
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I just flex my tier 10s on u if necessary

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🤡

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quick lichen
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Lol

unique scaffold
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😝

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Whaaaaat

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STB is great

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It’s not meant for armor

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It’s meant for quick peaks

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Uhhh

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NO

quick lichen
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Original 30b

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What a tank that was

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🤐

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@quick lichen

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The stats are only blitzhangar

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unique scaffold
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What equipment load out do I use for the Foch 155

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L L R
L R R
L R R

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You can run:
camo or optics
Armor or hit points
Either work. Choice is yours @unique scaffold

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wait

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you need extra pen on foch

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Gun sucks so much ass

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Hit or miss

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yoou need to rush

unique scaffold
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Rush?

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yup

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What do I do beginning, middle, and ending of the game

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Clearly I don’t know what I’m doing because I can’t even do 5k in the Foch

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It’s so sad

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If you need more pen then you need to aim

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I’ve never had a pen problem

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More so the gun shoots where it wants. Not where I aim

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Yeah

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@unique scaffold this is what I run

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I try

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I think it’s me

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xd

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I’d say traverse is very important

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@unique scaffold what u averaging currently?

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Lol

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I dropped my 3.5k

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3.5k pretty unrealistic average

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Idk of anyone on NA who does that

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It was only a few battles

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@unique scaffold your survival rate is very low but your spot rate is around normal. It seems you are yoloing too much mid-game and throwing away HP without getting enough damage to make it worthwhile

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True

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I can’t seem to do damage with this gun handling

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So I just get much closer

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I’d say you can get close with mediums/low pen heavies like IS7, by anyone with half a brain and ability to fire prem will butter u

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The gun is what holds you back

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Just be careful picking your brawls I guess