#tank-balance-discussion

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quick lichen
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@hoary sorrel i guess just what else can you do to the Kv-2?

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T-49 is balanced by the T-54L

hoary sorrel
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You don’t have to do anything else in KV-2

frozen nymph
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unique scaffold
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T49 balanced by anything not frontally paper

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@hoary sorrel I would nerf the velocity of the 152mm gun on the KV-2 substantially. Make it so that a player is unable to snipe from the red line in it.

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burnt venture
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T49 needs nerf? lol

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burnt venture
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I thought that thing was balanced

frozen nymph
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burnt venture
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KV-2 doesn't need nerf either

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its shell velocity is horrific

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burnt venture
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T82 like hands down worst in game lol

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unique scaffold
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KV-2 breeds bad habits.

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unique scaffold
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It is

burnt venture
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amazing when it hits lol

unique scaffold
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Aren’t they removing low tier derps?

burnt venture
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yes

unique scaffold
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For the tech tree rework

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Oof rip

burnt venture
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and the T82 itself

unique scaffold
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):

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At least no one will be able to beat my damage record in it permanently

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Hue

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KV-2 is a crutch that bad players depend on to get damage. Put them in any other tier VI and they'd fail hard. KV-2 let's them barely leave spawn, lob a shot across the map, one shot some poor SOB in a tier V (who after 5.5 will just be having his first running with derp cannons), rinse, and repeat. No other tank (other then the 183) lets a crap player get away with playing like that.

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Nerf the velocity so it can't be played as a red line sniper.

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Sp 1c needs a better inter clip reload

coral bobcat
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😂 @unique scaffold you really hate it right??

burnt venture
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needs better speed @unique scaffold

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that thing is too slo

coral bobcat
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KV2 is fine is one of the worst heavies in game

burnt venture
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with dracs and crap ramming it all the time

unique scaffold
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It’s not that slo

burnt venture
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yes it is

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crap pwr to wt

unique scaffold
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I hate what it let's crap players do. It is a RNG slot machine.

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Intetclip is soo bad that it can’t get both shots off without taking damage.

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SP1c definitely needs some love.

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bold dagger
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I agree, KV-2 is pretty bad

unique scaffold
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It's not playable

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I honestly conflicted shooting SP1c's On one hand I'm killing his tank, on the other hand I'm doing him a favor by sending him back to the garage sooner.

bold dagger
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I actually find it harder to get damage in a KV-2 than a Cromwell B lol

manic galleon
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Kv2 needs alpha nerf

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Badly...

bold dagger
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Derp tanks will literally always be “hit or miss”. If you mess up 1 or 2 shots you’re done

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They’re very inconsistent

coral bobcat
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KV2 is team dependand and we know how "good" are the teams now...

unique scaffold
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Not the Bt-7 art lol

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@bold dagger because you are a decent player who knows how to Cromwell. Put your avg 42%er with all of his games in a KV-2 into Cromwell and he'd fail hard.

manic galleon
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@Maverick [V] no not really. As long as u aren't sniping you'll be fine getting 640 to 960

burnt venture
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KV-2 does not need nerf. It is really soft, slow af, huge af, and has the KV-1 chassis. Not to mention accuracy.

unique scaffold
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It honestly needs a buff

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That's like saying a tidal wave isn't powerful when you live in Oklahoma.

manic galleon
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Needs an alpha nerf. 1 shotting tanks should not be a thing. Plus, you wouldn't believe the luck it gets

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In accuracy terms

unique scaffold
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The point I'm making is that a Nerf to velocity would prevent a crap player from playing at as a sniper.

bold dagger
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I think education is the best way to fix this. When derp guns are removed from the bottom tiers, new players will get a real shock when they one-shotted by a KV-2 for the first time. There should be like another tutorial you go through when you get your first Tier V tech tree tank

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In this tutorial, it would be nice to mention specific tanks to watch out for

manic galleon
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😂

bold dagger
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Im serious

coral bobcat
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crap player will learn after the first DERP 😂

manic galleon
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Sounds like maxstyler

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Should we just remove 183 too

unique scaffold
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WG has stated they want to make low tiers more friendly. Pulling all derps and then leaving a unchanged KV-2 is like telling your kid they don't have to ever swim and then throwing their butt in the ocean.

bold dagger
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But instead of having that happen and make them just hate the KV-2 and thinking it’s OP, it would be better to let them know the strengths and weaknesses to such tanks first

manic galleon
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You'll eventually encounter derps. Removing kv2 doesn't help

bold dagger
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Then they know how to deal with them

burnt venture
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removing T-150 helps somehow @manic galleon

coral bobcat
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if WG remove KV2 they need to remove 183 too

manic galleon
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What I never said that @burnt venture

unique scaffold
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@burnt venture how does that help?

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I don't want it removed. I want players to play it correctly. Camping a bush 10 feet from spawn, one shotting the first tank to wander into your view, and then getting murdered during your reload is not the correct way to play it. Nerfing the Velocity would force players to take their KV-2 closer to the front line.

manic galleon
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The main problem I have with 183 and kv2 derps are their high explosive penetration s

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Nerf alpha or pen on them and I'll be happy

burnt venture
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I was making a joke

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cuz they removing T-150 nxt patch

unique scaffold
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Which makes zero sense. How does the KV-2 make a better lead to the KV-3 then the T-150???

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O I read that wrong

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Thought u said somewhat

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And I didn’t know they are removing t150

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Big bhink

bold dagger
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They are

unique scaffold
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Much thonk

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Should be KV-1 to T-150 to KV-3.

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That makes sense.

burnt venture
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yeah KV-1S plays nothing like KV-3

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T-150 was also sorta bad tho...

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lower caliber, meh armor, bad mobility

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also the turret had pennable cheeks and a cupola

bold dagger
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Armor is as strong as it gets at Tier VI

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Not saying it’s like Maus armor

burnt venture
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eh I prefer KV-1Stho

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better mobility and better turret

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IMO

bold dagger
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I feel like the turret is kinda weak

grim horizon
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i love how people say nerfing KV-2 shell velocity will help when super charge exists

burnt venture
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takes supercharge over GLD :bhinking:

bold dagger
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Supercharge increases by 30%. If they choose to use Supercharge, they lose almost a full second of aim time

grim horizon
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why use aim time? why even bother sniping in KV-2

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its a waste of time

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for me sniping in a KV-2 is under 200 meters ¯_(ツ)_/¯

karmic perch
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The KV-2? The KV-2 is fine, why are people still going on about it. It hits hard, terrible accuracy and takes a year to reload not to mention the tank has terrible armor and mobility.... All it has is a gun....

grim horizon
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its that people are to scared to take a hit for the team to rush the KV-2 and swarm it

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and thats what makes it "overpowered"

unique scaffold
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@grim horizon. It's a waste of time for someone who knows what they are doing. Not for the players I see doing it in nearly every 5, 6, or 7 match

grim horizon
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lol >.>

unique scaffold
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@karmic perch my issue with the kv2 is that it's basically the easy button for players who don't know what they're doing.

grim horizon
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may or may not have 498 battles in KV-2 >.> cus when friends wanna do platoons my friends are like lets to tier 6 so im like whatever and i pull out KV-2 which is pretty much the only time i use it

unique scaffold
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Nerfing the velocity on the 152 would force them to actually leave spawn and get off the red line.

coral bobcat
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thats a general problem not only with the kv2 drivers @unique scaffold

karmic perch
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It is an iconic tank that has actual history. Honestly I would rather focus my attention on OP tanks like the Lupus.

unique scaffold
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Except that the KV 2 Rewards these players far more than any other tank does

karmic perch
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KV-2 does what it does in every iteration of a tanks title.

unique scaffold
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Except for the 183

grim horizon
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when people say KV-2 needs accuracy nerf yet i look at the 183 being able to cupola shot my hull down ST-1 from the redline across the map

karmic perch
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I will respectfully disagree on this one. KV-2 seems fine to me.

unique scaffold
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And I would agree on paper the kv2 is fine. In-game I think it needs slight adjustments to force players closer to the front line

grim horizon
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and i hate having to grind credits atm

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seeing void pramo pncr ectra all running around in SU-122-54's with its broken arse dpm

bold dagger
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Lol

grim horizon
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like im just trying to get credits in my Super Pershing and all they have to do is bum rush me and boom im dead within 18 seconds

bold dagger
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I don’t have an SU-122-54 if it makes you feel better

grim horizon
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lol its more annoying seeing super unicum platoons of em tho

sour sparrow
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They buffed E50M which was 3rd highest by WR and made it 1st highest

grim horizon
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camping A base on Canal on that high hill red lining then bum rushing tanks as they approach

sour sparrow
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Buffed E3 to make it 1st highest

grim horizon
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yes but 4k dpm is kinda overdoing it

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best dpm in game in that tank

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4,275 dpm not including adrenaline

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3,665 with HEAT

sour sparrow
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Now they buffed Su122-54,
All these buffs r always made so that players use gold to free xp equips or even tanks at tier 5-9 and then get to the preferred tanks ,easy money

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Then comes nerf in 2-3 patches, like usual

grim horizon
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i agree yes it did need a buff but a buff to 4.2k dpm is kinda crazy

sour sparrow
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Meanwhile Su101 is still ...

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Not even 2500 dpm with top gun and then u get to tier 9, suddenly 4275 dpm

grim horizon
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its only 6 dpm shy of 2.5k

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but it gets the same top gun

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yet if you go with the 100mm D-54S with 219 pen you get over 3k

sour sparrow
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With 2 degrees gun dep?

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Who would use it

grim horizon
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ya 2.3 degrees with 100mm for dpm gotta give something to get something dude

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what rear mounted casemate td is known for Gun Dep anyway

hybrid spoke
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The lupus

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Lol

grim horizon
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thats a turret not a casemate and its fake so who cares xP

hybrid spoke
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It as a joke lol

bold dagger
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Oh hey Bushka. I wish the Lupus could be nerfed, and I have one

grim horizon
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i dont get jokes sorry m8

hybrid spoke
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Haters 😧

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Heya mav

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Me too

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Lol

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183 first lol

bold dagger
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The tank is honestly broken. The meta favors large alpha and driving in the hills, the Lupus is perfect

grim horizon
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lol Locust is such a good tank xP

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jk

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50 shells is a joke

bold dagger
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The accuracy isn’t even as bad as the IS

hybrid spoke
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There’s actually 3 td lines that get that massive dpm boost

grim horizon
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its not enough in pc and they have less HP there

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let alone here

hybrid spoke
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Jagd tort and 122-54

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In fact tier 8 as a whole has this weird low dpm vibe after 7 that then grades up again at 9

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I’ve never understood it

grim horizon
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it does that in pc too you have same dpm as tier 5 but it jumps massively at tier 9 thats why the running gag on pc is that tier 9 is best tier which 90% of the time it is

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and how is the tort OP?

bold dagger
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Tier 7 is certainly a DPM and mobility focused tier

grim horizon
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with its big cupola and case mate that an ST-1 M62 AP can slice through

hybrid spoke
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I smash in that thing

grim horizon
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KV-4 is such a underrated tank imo

hybrid spoke
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If you post away from the cupola you just burn anything

bold dagger
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Tier 8 feature more armor, I would say. It’s like a mini intro to Tier 10

grim horizon
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besides the Super Persh

hybrid spoke
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Torts a beastly tank that gets hugely underestimated by most of its peers

grim horizon
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which the normal Pershing has more turret armor than the Super Persh

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funny enough

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cus they didnt put an armor plate behind the mantlet like on the Pershing

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thats why RU Heat can go thru the mantlet fun times

bold dagger
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Tort isn’t terrible. It’s where it should be, not too OP, not too weak

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Actually WG put armor behind the Super Perhsing’s mantlet now

hybrid spoke
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It was so broke. When it first dopped

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Lol

grim horizon
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since when?

hybrid spoke
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So so broken

grim horizon
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@bold dagger

hybrid spoke
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While ago

grim horizon
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thats funny lol

hybrid spoke
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I did a vid on the American fun mantlets

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They all had that plate missing

bold dagger
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Can’t remember. IS-3 AP would go through the mantlet a few months ago and now it cant

hybrid spoke
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They fixed most of them up

bold dagger
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All you needed was like 220+ AP pen

hybrid spoke
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Was same on e3 and t34

bold dagger
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And it would go through

grim horizon
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😐 yes this is why ive had guns like the stock gun on the Tiger 1

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pen me

hybrid spoke
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If you fired next to the gun

grim horizon
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thru the mantlet

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yesterday

bold dagger
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Yeah I remember when they buffed the E3/E4 mantlet

rotund dune
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Yeah those armor holes were there from the start

hybrid spoke
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Mmmm maybe they didn’t get em all done but I was on the room in Minsk talking with devs l

grim horizon
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anywhere to put pics?

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screenshots or media

hybrid spoke
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They were doing that theb

hasty juniper
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omai

bold dagger
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@grim horizon you can’t post screenshots here?

grim horizon
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in this chat i can yes

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but i didnt think the mantlet model would go here

sour sparrow
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Yeah the devs who most probably left WG just a while ago

karmic perch
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@hybrid spoke just watched your Gravedigger video. Looks to be much of the balanced hahaha

modern rapids
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Gravedigger is OP

hybrid spoke
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Juju!

karmic perch
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Hello sir

hybrid spoke
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It seems great until you run into a good pen tank

modern rapids
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Yeah I haven't played against tier 8 yet

grim horizon
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thats for normal pershing

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no armor behind mantlet

hybrid spoke
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Nearly to airport

rigid stream
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Why would you even gold the tabk

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Tabnk

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Tank?

modern rapids
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I didn't

grim horizon
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gold?

karmic perch
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Where you flying to?

rigid stream
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Oh you CC

modern rapids
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Lol

hybrid spoke
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Meadsy stahp it

rigid stream
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:GWslippyPeepoH:

hybrid spoke
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Adelaide

rigid stream
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O

hybrid spoke
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Wedding

karmic perch
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Where the hell is that?

modern rapids
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Flying again?

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Ffs

rigid stream
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Pls enable global emotea

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Emotes

frozen nymph
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hybrid spoke
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Ben folds wrote a song about

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It

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South Australia

modern rapids
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So you pick a wedding over EU stream?

karmic perch
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I will look into this 🧐

grim horizon
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see

hybrid spoke
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Massive Fng sharks

grim horizon
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no armor behind mantlet

frozen nymph
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rigid stream
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@hybrid spoke gravedigger coming?

hybrid spoke
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Cos I was fooling about

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Lol

karmic perch
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Yeah I don’t do sharks. Not much scares me but being in open ocean where sharks hunt... I’m good on that.

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rigid stream
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:GWvertiPeepoChrist:

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Omg

grim horizon
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but ya i gotta love my super pershing's totally reliable armor 🙄

karmic perch
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Super P is so 2015

rigid stream
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@charred comet pls enable global emotes

grim horizon
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yet it makes just as much credits as the Lowe

hybrid spoke
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grim horizon
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and the Lowe and Super P have best credit making for tier 8 prems in store at all times

modern rapids
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Lol

rigid stream
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👌

frozen nymph
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modern rapids
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Paul is awesome

hybrid spoke
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Cos I reviewed it and it wasn’t that op apptently

frozen nymph
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grim horizon
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kek

frozen nymph
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hybrid spoke
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Paul is a grub

modern rapids
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Lol

frozen nymph
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grim horizon
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totally balanced 👌

frozen nymph
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hybrid spoke
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He has that pic of me

modern rapids
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Paul is paul

hybrid spoke
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And he puts it on tanks

frozen nymph
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rigid stream
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Paul is Bushka

frozen nymph
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rigid stream
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🤔

hybrid spoke
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I’l

frozen nymph
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modern rapids
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Na Paul not as tall

quaint crag
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@hybrid spoke Queue the Helsing in crates with a 2% droprate in the next two weeks.

rigid wigeon
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Lmfao

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hybrid spoke
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Brick I’ll be getting those fat YouTube views on my old review yo

quaint crag
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Ah, yes. My mathematical mistake @frozen nymph

grim horizon
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so who would i talk to about the "armor behind american mantlets"

frozen nymph
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hybrid spoke
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And a horde of new ppl will say DUDE WTF YOU SAOD OTS NOT TEH BROKED

frozen nymph
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grim horizon
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cus its a joke like come on they aint fooling me

karmic perch
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Tankenstein is the worst 10k Gold I have ever spent in the game.

hybrid spoke
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Gtfo nicko

grim horizon
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how tho it can mount Box Tenk gun?

frozen nymph
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hybrid spoke
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Wash that mouth out

frozen nymph
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karmic perch
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I hate it. That was back in 2015

frozen nymph
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rigid stream
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Ha! Get rekt @karmic perch

hybrid spoke
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I LOVE IT

grim horizon
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still can mount the Box Tenk gun?

hybrid spoke
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mike likes it too

quaint crag
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@hybrid spoke You can always say "The unicums made me say it so they can stat pad." Works every time.

frozen nymph
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karmic perch
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Then I got the Drac because Bushka said the Helsing was garbage 🙄

hybrid spoke
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Moke is never wrong

rigid stream
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Uhhhh

frozen nymph
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grim horizon
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lol i mean drac is a CDC just a tier lower

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and alot smaller

karmic perch
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Moke is woke

grim horizon
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and just as fast

rigid stream
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He means Mike

grim horizon
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so

hybrid spoke
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Lol I mean my point is if your biggest issue I. Life is you got a Drac I fail to see the downside

frozen nymph
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quaint crag
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To be fair, I knew the Helsing was miles more overpowered, and I still went for the Dracula so I could yolo more effectively.

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karmic perch
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Hehehe I got both @hybrid spoke 😏

modern rapids
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CDC is OP

grim horizon
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cdc is garbage vs anything above 91mm of gun caliber

hybrid spoke
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😎

frozen nymph
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grim horizon
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ive dominated 2 cdc's at once in my KV-4

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not that hard

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just aim and shoot

modern rapids
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Noob players

grim horizon
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anywhere

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107 overmatches the entire tank

hybrid spoke
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I got owned by a cdc a n stream in a conq last month

frozen nymph
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quaint crag
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@frozen nymph I enjoy the CDC, and it is a decent tank. Just not in tournies 😉

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hybrid spoke
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Was pretty hilarious

frozen nymph
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grim horizon
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Conq kek

karmic perch
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Who else like the Panther 8.8cm?!

frozen nymph
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quaint crag
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Please go away

grim horizon
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Conq has less gun depression than my ST-1

frozen nymph
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grim horizon
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i love it

karmic perch
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@grim horizon you just moved up in my world.

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grim horizon
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lol wat? @karmic perch

modern rapids
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Lol

quaint crag
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@karmic perch He was talking about the Conq

frozen nymph
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grim horizon
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.>

frozen nymph
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karmic perch
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I was in the batchat earlier. E-100 went invisible while I was about to kill him and nuked me 😰

frozen nymph
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grim horizon
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oof

modern rapids
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😂

frozen nymph
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hybrid spoke
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Mad games are a lot of fun tbh

frozen nymph
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grim horizon
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ST-1 better turret better hull better gun depression so why bother with your silly conq bushka?

modern rapids
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My and a friend just went double CDC in mad games. He did this.

hybrid spoke
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Hopefully they play mad gamers at twister

quaint crag
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"Let's make spawn camper heavies invisible" - WG Geniuses 2018

modern rapids
frozen nymph
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hybrid spoke
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Just for the lols

modern rapids
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So I wanted to try it out

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This happens

grim horizon
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xD

hoary sorrel
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Lol

quaint crag
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DENIED

modern rapids
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Little fker

karmic perch
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😂

grim horizon
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lol

modern rapids
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😂

karmic perch
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U thought

frozen nymph
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modern rapids
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Yes

grim horizon
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nop

frozen nymph
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modern rapids
grim horizon
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he got clapped by the nuke cannon

modern rapids
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Didn't get away tho

grim horizon
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awe

frozen nymph
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hoary sorrel
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Shooting is overrated

quaint crag
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Gitrekt skrub

grim horizon
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this is why i dont play madgames cus why bother with stupid crap

hybrid spoke
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That’s like meadsy coming home after a few beers and going in for a cuddle with mrs.meadsy

karmic perch
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grim horizon
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lol

modern rapids
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Ahahah

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😂😂

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?purge 50

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Oof

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hybrid spoke
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we have fifteen kids Darren!!!

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grim horizon
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someone started telling me super pershing was op......

hoary sorrel
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@karmic perch u thot

quaint crag
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@karmic perch Just rename this General and call it good.

hybrid spoke
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Warp

grim horizon
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like how

modern rapids
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15 fk

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Why am I still working

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modern rapids
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Live off benefits with that many kids

karmic perch
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hybrid spoke
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Aim high meadsy lol

modern rapids
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Lol

hybrid spoke
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😂

quaint crag
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The Hammer is coming. Scramble!

hybrid spoke
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Woops

modern rapids
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We can practice for 15 kids tho

hybrid spoke
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In fairness meadsy and his wild seed is balanced

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hybrid spoke
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Kk changing channels

karmic perch
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😐

modern rapids
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Lol

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@frozen nymph post that overused meme again

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I dare you

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🤐

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unique scaffold
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but i can

quick lichen
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@frozen nymph Brett Gardner hit .236 this year. Odds are he misses that

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steady sorrel
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hm

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rebalance T49 !! 😄

burnt venture
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why is there no #183_rant_session

somber mauve
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because once they make it, we would pick on the point that "since you made a channel for us to rant about 183, which means it's a problematic tank, why not do something about it?" argument

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but yes 183 need balancing

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:^)

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either nerf or removal

burnt venture
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*replacement @somber mauve

unique scaffold
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Dissenting opinion. I don't see an issue with the 183. I do see an issue with the number being played and the number of TD's in play in higher tiers in general.

I think a (enforced) limit of 2 TD's per team would go a long way in fixing the problem.

Another option if you want to cut back on the number of 183's being played would be to make the cost to operate much higher. Makie playing the 183 a credit losing proposition similar to what WG has done with the T49.

somber mauve
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if something is being played a lot

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it means something is definitely (advantage) attracting them to use it

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so If there is an advantage

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remove it

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not limit it

steady sorrel
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Buff T49 ! 😄

unique scaffold
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@somber mauve not necessarily. It could mean that the simplicity of TD's appeals to the average Blitz player. You and I don't find shoelaces difficult but to your average special needs student Velcro may be the better way to go. That is how I view TD's. They are the Velcro shoes of Blitz.

quick lichen
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Foch 155. Tier x mobile td with a T49 152. Prove me wrong

bold dagger
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I think for most people, the ability to do large amounts of damage at one time is very appealing, more than even winning. TD’s are vastly popular because they offer that ability

quick lichen
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Worst tier x gun by far

bold dagger
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It is

quick lichen
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I bounced the flat side of a 215b just now

bold dagger
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But the user rate for the Foch 155 is tiny compared to other Tier X TD’s

quick lichen
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How on earth is that possible

ivory fractal
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“ User rate” wdym?

violet forum
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Raiky

bold dagger
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People that have played the tank recently

violet forum
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Foch can’t be compared to 268

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Or any others on that matter

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Make it a 460 alpha w/ three shots and I’ll be happy

bold dagger
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Considered to be the worst line to grind in the game, the 183 still has 8000+ playing it in the last 90 days

violet forum
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183 is 183

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People go for it because of the gun

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Foch really doesn’t have much to go for it other than more mobility than 268, plus it’s the size of a barn

somber mauve
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but why people don't complain about jagreu

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but only 183?

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let's sit here and give it a think

stoic pebble
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because the jageroo doesn't hit for 1625 :^)

somber mauve
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and why does getting hit for 1625 an issue?

stoic pebble
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i don't know

somber mauve
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because that's basically 90% of your health gone

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simple as that

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does a Jagreu hit you for 1625?

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no

bold dagger
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Jageroo only offers an extra 160 more damage per round, on average, than 15 cm guns

somber mauve
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does a 183 do? yes

neat yew
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Why did I just now realize that most, if not all lines in the USSR tech tree are the easiest grinds I've ever done?

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Still need to buy the SU-101 so I will probably eat my words

stoic pebble
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bias da

neat yew
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Gotta get that 263

stoic pebble
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you can grind out the SU-101 in mad games

neat yew
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Yeah, and I think I got some dosh for it too.

somber mauve
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doing 263 tokyo drift in Mad Games is 👌

neat yew
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Trust me I've done worse.

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T25 AT tends to drift too much to be controllable

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Sure the high octane fuel is fun but it's ultimately uncomfortable to use

stoic pebble
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so is the invis better than the boost?

somber mauve
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I have see people hitting their shots on 263 while drifting

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xD

stoic pebble
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in terms of mobility

somber mauve
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it's lit

neat yew
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Invis is far better than the high octane fuel

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You actually have control over the vehicle

steady sorrel
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Fix that T49 xD

burnt venture
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high octane is stupid

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I cannot control it when using the SU100y

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the dash is way better

somber mauve
primal hinge
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Dash best active

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10/10 out plays

unique scaffold
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Scavenger op please nerf 😉

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unique scaffold
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Already got the KV 13

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I got about 2 million credits that I cloud spend on the lower tier tanks

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unique scaffold
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Lol

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I got about 17 slots free so I don't need to buy many if any

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unique scaffold
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Lol

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unique scaffold
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Rip

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I'm yet to enrich a tank

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unique scaffold
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Nice

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If I was going to enrich anything it would probably be the ARL 44 lol

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Or is 3

queen hemlock
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@unique scaffold TD is the Velcro of Blitz 😂

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That's the best meme I've heard today

unique scaffold
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Glad someone caught that 🤣

queen hemlock
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Kidding aside

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I think you are spot on

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People like simplicity to a certain degree

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And TD usually offer simple gameplay. Sit and wait. Aim. Shoot. Do three big penetrating hits. Feel like the best player in the world

raw fiber
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183 drivers be like
fires two penetrating shots
Come on team i did everything

unique scaffold
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Maybe Crocs would be a better analogy. Crocs are simple and comfortable. Hell maybe I'd even wear them around the house once in awhile... But the players we see spending their entire career in TD's are like some dude wearing Crocs to a wedding.

queen hemlock
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Crocs with Velcro would be an analogy for the real noobs then? 🤔

unique scaffold
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If the shoe fits...

junior compass
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Why is there so much russian bias?

quick lichen
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@junior compass in what way

tawny sail
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There isn’t Russian bias. Just Stalinium armour and Stalin guided shells

junior compass
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^^^

unique scaffold
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Does Russian bias equal players who don't know how to aim?

quick lichen
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Pretty much

tawny sail
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You pay your respects to Stalin by drink a bottle of vodka per battle to get his blessing

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and with that very special blessing he shall protect you when he sees fit

bold dagger
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can we not do the Russian bias thing here

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it gets old really fast lol

tepid cipher
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Russian gun handling is very predictable lol

tawny sail
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👍

tepid cipher
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There is the crossover point on each tank where you go from never going to hit to always going to hit

somber badge
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What do u think bout the kpfpzs70

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Dpm compared is still low , with Low pen

unique scaffold
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I play a lot of TDs, but I don’t camp XD

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What does that have to relate?
@unique scaffold

steady sorrel
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Rebalance T49!! XD

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@west ravine my help me xD support my project xD

west ravine
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😂

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@steady sorrel i want buff on 183

steady sorrel
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Me to! @west ravine

west ravine
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It should be like on mad games

steady sorrel
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He is unplayable

somber badge
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Yea kinda at least increase the pen for HESH on 49

west ravine
steady sorrel
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Exaxtly

somber badge
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Works only against light tanks atm

steady sorrel
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@somber badge Yes!

west ravine
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I want 2k damage on normal games

steady sorrel
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That is what i want

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@west ravinexD

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@west ravine show You something?

west ravine
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Now?

steady sorrel
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Yes

west ravine
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Yup show me

somber badge
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75 is pretty low for 152mm gun

steady sorrel
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@somber badge agree

somber badge
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Plus the HEAT pen

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......

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No chance against most heavies

steady sorrel
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Heat is fck bullshit

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Russian heavy will laugh on it

west ravine
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But it will be too op

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If it get bıff

steady sorrel
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All heavys have 90% chance to bounce from t49

somber badge
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Spaced armor-

steady sorrel
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@west ravine but You know im not a bot

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And i cant play on t49

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Is useless for me

somber badge
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The only place t49 can one HEAT on an is5 is at its butt

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Or back turret

steady sorrel
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@somber badge yea but most of players i mean that Smart

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Never let You hit from butt

somber badge
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Yep

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So that becomes even more harder

west ravine
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So try HE 😂

somber badge
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Splashing all the way? Doing 200avg for 15+sec

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Joke?

steady sorrel
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Eh

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I delete :(

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I mean if You even drive on His butt You will aim on him that long to let him turn around

somber badge
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No that doesnt happen

steady sorrel
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@west ravine but HE is good when You have good RNG

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If not... You shot for 100 max

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And reload 20 s

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Lovely light

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Yea

west ravine
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Yes

stiff solar
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U can pen is3's ass with he

steady sorrel
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@stiff solar okey Smart man

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Tell me how many Times You can do that?

stiff solar
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11/10

steady sorrel
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Or how many Times You do that?

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Per Day

stiff solar
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It's not that hard

steady sorrel
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Ye sure

stiff solar
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I don't play t49 too annoying

steady sorrel
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Thats why You cant Tell what to do and when

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Is only 5% chance per Day when You can pen is by HE in butt

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Cuz You try be Smart

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But True is that you cant ever Time do that

stiff solar
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No it's actually pretty consistent

steady sorrel
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Every*

stiff solar
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I mean not every time I play but mby once per 3 days

steady sorrel
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Yes thats why t49 is unplayable

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Even for me

stiff solar
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It's a slot machine on tracks

steady sorrel
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Yup

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Like lottery

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If RNG will love You

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Let You make dmg or even Win!

unique scaffold
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If only they gave the T49 an option to run a gun that was less RNG dependant...perhaps in 90mm...

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But then you can’t oneshot tier 7s

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And tier 8 heavies

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I hit an amx 50-100 with one last night for 1470 and burned him

grim horizon
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:l

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im not looking forward to the new super heavies

unique scaffold
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I agree and I prefer the 152. I'm just saying there is a alternative to the 152.

grim horizon
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the durp normally is for lolz and shits and giggles the 90mm is for competitive

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am i right on that or? atleast on pc and console thats what you do on T49 @unique scaffold

unique scaffold
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@grim horizon the derp is more comp than the 90 lol

grim horizon
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cant comment if its the same on blitz as i havent played the T49 here

unique scaffold
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The 90 is useless here

grim horizon
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it wont be with these Tier 8/9 german super heavies coming

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esp with the durp guns wont have fun needing to HE to do damage on those

elfin mortar
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yeah derp meta will be hard to pull off with the big bois around

unique scaffold
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I don't play comp.

elfin mortar
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doesn't matter

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t8 is littered w heavy tanks

grim horizon
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T32 is beast in mad games atleast for me

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sure i may have quite a few 0 damage matches so far but in beginnings it tell our lights to ram me if they need heal and ill heal them up some as well as the heal from them ramming

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i dont mind it as long as i can keep others alive it means more fire power

unique scaffold
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The only change the 152 needs is economical HE round with a bit more pen.

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They shouldn’t have nerfed the t49s old HE pen

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10mm more pen would be good

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Yes the module damage was broken

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@unique scaffold yup

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But they nerfed it from 80 to 70

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Which kinda ruined it

grim horizon
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i mean people complain about 152 on T49 having stupidly low pen but its not a sterotypical 152

unique scaffold
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Pen and reload should have been left alone

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^

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I run cal shells on mine and it’s just abysmal

grim horizon
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and since when does it have 70 flat HE pen?

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it has 75mm un researched

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on HE

unique scaffold
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They nerfed it by 10

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I just guessed the values

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Used to have 85

grim horizon
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i mean i can see why going up the T49 line is for like fun and stuff but why not the T69 so your used to the American autoloaders before the 54E1

unique scaffold
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I'd settle for a high explosive round that wasn't considered a premium round

grim horizon
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meh

unique scaffold
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^ or switch the he and heat

grim horizon
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its a prem round in PC as well if i remember right

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so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

somber badge
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Reed

elfin mortar
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the autoloaders aren't hard to figure out tbh

unique scaffold
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That and the t69 is garbage

somber badge
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75 mm HE pen isn't enough for a 153

grim horizon
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i mean i hate the 12t here on blitz but i love the console 12t

somber badge
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152

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The 122mm guns itself have 65

unique scaffold
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On console you have a Heat round and a high explosive round as standard arounds. Then you have a better high explosive round as your premium round. Or at least that's how it was when I played console

somber badge
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The Russian heavies r impenetrable by HE at butt

grim horizon
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i love how yall are comparing a gun launcher round to a normal round like KV-2 has

unique scaffold
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@lusty silo fix t49 HE pen plz and I’ll love you forever

grim horizon
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its funny

somber badge
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But u.s and German vehicles

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Can be easily HESHED

grim horizon
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

unique scaffold
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The t49 used to be able to HE Russian heavies

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Which was proper

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Make the stupid 40%s regret their tank

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Now WG removed that

grim horizon
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lol

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KV-4 is underrated compared to IS-3 tbfh

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like i personally have better stats in the IS-3 but i prefer playing the KV-4 as i just find it not as generic as the IS-3's rush and face hug tactics

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only reason i went down the IS line is for the BL-9 for my ST-1

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cus fk using a 175 pen at tier 9

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but ya i cant stand the 12t here i just cant get it down right unlike console where i do meh in it but i enjoy the console 12t maybe its the clip size with an extra shot but idk

quick lichen
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Just run the T49 with calibrated

unique scaffold
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I do

grim horizon
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people dont like using logic tho xP

unique scaffold
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But I wanna use rammer so fix the HE pen plz

quick lichen
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Well too bad

grim horizon
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pick & choose you cant have the best of both worlds m8

quick lichen
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Honestly

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Do you want it to make you $100k credits a game too?

unique scaffold
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Nope

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Just want the HE pen back

quick lichen
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It’s a tier 8 derp tank. It has bad pen

grim horizon
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i mean anyone would say yes to that tho 100k credits a game sounds like good match making

unique scaffold
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I'd just like a economical HE round.

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@quick lichen

quick lichen
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That I get

grim horizon
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id be lucky to get 60k in the Super Persh xP

elfin mortar
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prem time + heat only hitting ur shots makes decent cash

grim horizon
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in one match

unique scaffold
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And machine guns on the Fury.

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^^

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Give us the machine guns

grim horizon
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:l what about them?

quick lichen
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It’s very high for a shell that will mostly splash

elfin mortar
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just upgrade it to the t 49A, problem solved

unique scaffold
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Cancer^

grim horizon
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lol next we know they are begging for STRV line which i can never imagine coming to blitz

quick lichen
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They are both disgusting

elfin mortar
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on opposite ends of the spectrum

quick lichen
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Don’t aim and do 250+ no problem

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@quick lichen it has rely bad pen-

grim horizon
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STRV with the hydraulic suspension would make a new button to be included and then training for new users which doesnt exist anyway

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and then the graphics to go along with it

somber badge
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Heat is next to useless-

unique scaffold
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Players who try to slug it out with a IS-X in a T49 are doing it wrong anyways.

grim horizon
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^

void pewter
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🤔

grim horizon
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exactly

quick lichen
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How many people are going to complain about derp gun pen?

void pewter
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someone mentioned the meatball tank?

grim horizon
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meatball tank?

unique scaffold
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Meatballs

void pewter
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strv autoloader

grim horizon
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:l

quick lichen
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Next you’ll complain hesh doesn’t get enough pen

grim horizon
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oh no i ment the cheese wedges @void pewter

void pewter
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hesh doesn't do enough dmg

unique scaffold
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Hesh doesn’t get enough pen

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Should be able to front pen maus

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Ez

void pewter
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should roll for 2k

quick lichen
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@void pewter that’s more like it

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How do u know what we will complaint- @quick lichen

unique scaffold
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A T49 should be baiting the mindless IS-X driver into the line of site of your big guns.

somber badge
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We will see for that

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Don't go off topic noes

grim horizon
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next thing we know people are gonna be asking for the 183 to be buffed 🙄

unique scaffold
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Then playing late game assassin

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183 is pretty balanced actually

somber badge
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Nothing like that will happy

unique scaffold
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Which it can do very well.

somber badge
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Happen

quick lichen
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unique scaffold
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?

elfin mortar
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bet

grim horizon
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run away!

quick lichen
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“183 is balanced”

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Get out of here

unique scaffold
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It is mostly balanced

grim horizon
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i didnt say it

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not even close

quick lichen
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In what way??

unique scaffold
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The equipment makes it unbalanced

void pewter
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iraik can i join pramo (:

unique scaffold
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With the traverse boost

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My problem with the 183 is that there are 4 per match with another 5 Tank Destroyers in the match as well

quick lichen
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Yes @void pewter

elfin mortar
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183 is bad, hardly gets used in tourney play

grim horizon
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the way how itcan red line and still hit the people from accros the map in 183

void pewter
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thanks dad

unique scaffold
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183 isn’t competitive at all

somber badge
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Every 152mm has at least 85mm of HE pen,

grim horizon
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sigh

quick lichen
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183 ruins games almost every time it’s in one

somber badge
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Except 49

void pewter
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183 is horribly balanced

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a 30% can take out a super unicorn in 1 shot if he gets good rng

grim horizon
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ffs when will people get the T49 aint a KV-2 like gun its a gun launcher

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like ffs

quick lichen
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Hold on a second

unique scaffold
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I agri

quick lichen
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Hush

grim horizon
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like reee

void pewter
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silence

unique scaffold
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I think removing the AP round on the 183 would be ok

quick lichen
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That’s the single dumbest thing I’ve ever heard @unique scaffold

void pewter
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hahahah

grim horizon
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lol

unique scaffold
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You pinged me to tell me something I alrdy know?

quick lichen
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.mute @unique scaffold 18

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void pewter
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i have never even heard that suggestion

grim horizon
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oof

void pewter
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because it's so dumb

elfin mortar
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aboos of power

quick lichen
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You’ll be next

elfin mortar
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revolt

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.> rip

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bet

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oh wait wrong server

grim horizon
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your pfp is weeblike your opinion doesnt matter @elfin mortar xP

elfin mortar
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tru

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Um

quick lichen
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183 in mad games

somber badge
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Can we get back to t49???

elfin mortar
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no

grim horizon
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ive heard 263 is more broken in mad games than it already is in pubbies

unique scaffold
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T49 is fun

quick lichen
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One shots anything under 2437

ivory fractal
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Remember decisions taken by moderators and admins can’t be discussed. @elfin mortar pls stay on topic

quick lichen
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How is that balanced

somber badge
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Hai @ivory fractal

grim horizon
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its easy its called get someone to yolo scout 183 then everyone focus tf outta it

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xP

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😝

quick lichen
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Amx 50b pokes around a corner and gets irradiated and heshed for 2230. How is that balanced?

unique scaffold
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Yeah but then when 183 isn’t spotted

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Disappears

quick lichen
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America explain

unique scaffold
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Instantly

grim horizon
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oof

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you say that yet you all are forgetting about the pleb wagon

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or yolowagon

unique scaffold
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So unless someone wants to willingly keep peaking in front of 183

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Then it won’t be spotted

grim horizon
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whatever u wanna call it

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i mean i would if im hull down in a ST-1 XP

elfin mortar
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263 is good

void pewter
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183 became even more inbalanced

quick lichen
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183s on na are almost always along the world border

grim horizon
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i dont mind poking Jageru's and 183's while hull down in ST-1

elfin mortar
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183 has same effect in pubs and mad games

grim horizon
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cus stronk turret Da

quick lichen
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But it’s hard because there’s several spots

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So although you can guess

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You can’t be sure till it’s either spotted or someone gets nuked

unique scaffold
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Ye

grim horizon
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just hide the commanders hatch and have bouncy house all day long xP

quick lichen
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So again

unique scaffold
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Like oasis palms

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Many spots near spawn

quick lichen
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How is it fair for a 50b to poke one and get killed for it in one shot

grim horizon
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so can someone explain how ST-1 is broken cus i got someone telling me it was broken the other day?

elfin mortar
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hope they don't pen

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Fv uses irradiation anywhere it quickly gets spotted- in that ti

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One can kill it soon enough

quick lichen
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It’s not like he forgot to repair his tracks and several people hit him

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Maybe someone in our team has irradiation and can use it on the enemy

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Fv

quick lichen
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@grim horizon it’s broken from the front when hull down

elfin mortar
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irradiator makes you spotted for the duration it's active. so if u kill they guy you use it on, unspotted immediately again

grim horizon
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when hull down

quick lichen
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Side armor is a bit troll

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I have done it tags y I'm saying

grim horizon
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saying the ST-1 is broken hull down looks at T32

quick lichen
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@elfin mortar I bet a 183 could irradiate a tank and shoot within .5 of a second

elfin mortar
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i tried and didn't pen hesh

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Then the guy dying Ofc will be a Noob- roaming out in the open with an Fv lurking at him

elfin mortar
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reee

quick lichen
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How do you react to that

grim horizon
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i mean we could always say open a TTR and then test it lol @quick lichen @somber badge

quick lichen
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You’re dead before you aim or run away

grim horizon
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oops not kev tagged wrong 2nd person

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elfin mortar
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I play super passive with 183s floating about lol

somber badge
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I'm here anyways

grim horizon
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lol

somber badge
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Ping don't matter

unique scaffold
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I only play meds in tier X, I'm not great at getting damage, but I play a pretty good scout. My biggest issue with 183's is that once I spot them (from cover) my team is too passive to shoot at them.

elfin mortar
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183 is hard to use in wastelands at least

quick lichen
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@unique scaffold heavies are sniper tanks

unique scaffold
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In tier X all tanks are sniper tanks.

elfin mortar
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they have big alpha, must be snipers

quick lichen
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Honestly

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@quick lichen can I ask something?

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Off topic

elfin mortar
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you just did

quick lichen
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@somber badge I guess

somber badge
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Still angry on me? Forgive?

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Say something at least-

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@elfin mortar u smart

unique scaffold
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Pramo rounds need their full alpha back.

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Between the equipment hit in 3.8 and the Pramo Nerf high tier meds took a double kick to the nads.

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#makemedsgreatagain

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Then again it makes people who heatspam things like the borsig look even more stupid

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I ♥️HE spamming Borsigs.

quick lichen
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@unique scaffold hmm

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I think it should be closer in terms of the damage trade

unique fulcrum
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Nah

quick lichen
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120 mm get 360 instead of 340 so 90%

unique fulcrum
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That’s silly

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I like the way it is now

quick lichen
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It’s depressing shooting someone for 290 with an IS-4

unique scaffold
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I think that WG shouldn't have dumbed down the game because your average player was too stupid to realize that you can buy premium rounds with silver.

quick lichen
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It did ruin comp a bit though

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All anyone did was shoot gold

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My is-7 loadout was 5-20-5

unique scaffold
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Taking a hit to DPM by nerfing the rammer, loosing Vents, and then neutering pramo rounds really kind of sucked.

quick lichen
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Winning > credits

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Hmm

unique scaffold
quick lichen
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Lower dpm becomes more about gradually working over yanks

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Tanks*

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Being smart and timing shots

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Making sure you pen

unique scaffold
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I get it. I just don't like it.

quick lichen
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It’s not as forgiving

unique scaffold
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But I've accepted it and am doing what I can.

quick lichen
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It’s interesting how different changes can be throughout the modes of the game

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IS-7 and 215b are excellent in pubs but hardly used in comp

unique scaffold
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My experience is limited solely to pub matches. I've become accustomed to the chaos there. I'm not sure how I'd do in a comp match.

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Maybe someday I'll play some comp matches to see how it goes....

unique scaffold
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@unique scaffold comp is fun until you see tier 8 and the teams of 7 is5s

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Tier 6 is arl and kv1s spam

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Tier ten is the only really diverse comp tier

quick lichen
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Kuro > arl

sullen vault
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@quick lichen post nerf arl>kuro :'v

quick lichen
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Nope

sullen vault
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Yope

quick lichen
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Weeb power > France

sullen vault
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O

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Tru tru

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Weeb power=america

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😄

pale saffron
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DW2 needs the long 75 removed

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or at least its DPM butchered

tawny sail
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No

quick lichen
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@pale saffron it’s being removed so you’ll see plenty less of them

pale saffron
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groovy

unique scaffold
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Aren’t they getting nerfed and removed?

hasty juniper
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Kuro loli

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💦

junior compass
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Hi ladies

astral trout
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Wg butchered their own game with that move

neat yew
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@hasty juniper Kuro Loli Mini

elfin mortar
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OwO

hasty juniper
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owo

neat yew
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wots this watashi-sama

tough crane
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WZ-113 need a traverse speed buff

unique scaffold
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@astral trout If by "butchered their own game" you meant "took away the training wheels from players that should have moved beyond tier 4 long ago" then I completely agree.

steady sorrel
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Rebalance T49! :D

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Please

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@ivory fractal do something with that please xD

serene falcon
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:GWqlabsFeelsLULMan:

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Sigh

pale saffron
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@silk seal what are you high on?