#tank-balance-discussion
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You don’t have to do anything else in KV-2
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T49 balanced by anything not frontally paper
@hoary sorrel I would nerf the velocity of the 152mm gun on the KV-2 substantially. Make it so that a player is unable to snipe from the red line in it.
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T49 needs nerf? lol
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I thought that thing was balanced
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T82 like hands down worst in game lol
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KV-2 breeds bad habits.
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It is
amazing when it hits lol
Aren’t they removing low tier derps?
yes
and the T82 itself
):
At least no one will be able to beat my damage record in it permanently
Hue
KV-2 is a crutch that bad players depend on to get damage. Put them in any other tier VI and they'd fail hard. KV-2 let's them barely leave spawn, lob a shot across the map, one shot some poor SOB in a tier V (who after 5.5 will just be having his first running with derp cannons), rinse, and repeat. No other tank (other then the 183) lets a crap player get away with playing like that.
Nerf the velocity so it can't be played as a red line sniper.
Sp 1c needs a better inter clip reload
😂 @unique scaffold you really hate it right??
KV2 is fine is one of the worst heavies in game
with dracs and crap ramming it all the time
It’s not that slo
I hate what it let's crap players do. It is a RNG slot machine.
Intetclip is soo bad that it can’t get both shots off without taking damage.
SP1c definitely needs some love.
^
I agree, KV-2 is pretty bad
It's not playable
I honestly conflicted shooting SP1c's On one hand I'm killing his tank, on the other hand I'm doing him a favor by sending him back to the garage sooner.
I actually find it harder to get damage in a KV-2 than a Cromwell B lol
Derp tanks will literally always be “hit or miss”. If you mess up 1 or 2 shots you’re done
They’re very inconsistent
KV2 is team dependand and we know how "good" are the teams now...
Not the Bt-7 art lol
@bold dagger because you are a decent player who knows how to Cromwell. Put your avg 42%er with all of his games in a KV-2 into Cromwell and he'd fail hard.
@Maverick [V] no not really. As long as u aren't sniping you'll be fine getting 640 to 960
KV-2 does not need nerf. It is really soft, slow af, huge af, and has the KV-1 chassis. Not to mention accuracy.
It honestly needs a buff
That's like saying a tidal wave isn't powerful when you live in Oklahoma.
Needs an alpha nerf. 1 shotting tanks should not be a thing. Plus, you wouldn't believe the luck it gets
In accuracy terms
The point I'm making is that a Nerf to velocity would prevent a crap player from playing at as a sniper.
I think education is the best way to fix this. When derp guns are removed from the bottom tiers, new players will get a real shock when they one-shotted by a KV-2 for the first time. There should be like another tutorial you go through when you get your first Tier V tech tree tank
In this tutorial, it would be nice to mention specific tanks to watch out for
😂
Im serious
crap player will learn after the first DERP 😂
WG has stated they want to make low tiers more friendly. Pulling all derps and then leaving a unchanged KV-2 is like telling your kid they don't have to ever swim and then throwing their butt in the ocean.
But instead of having that happen and make them just hate the KV-2 and thinking it’s OP, it would be better to let them know the strengths and weaknesses to such tanks first
You'll eventually encounter derps. Removing kv2 doesn't help
Then they know how to deal with them
removing T-150 helps somehow @manic galleon
if WG remove KV2 they need to remove 183 too
What I never said that @burnt venture
@burnt venture how does that help?
I don't want it removed. I want players to play it correctly. Camping a bush 10 feet from spawn, one shotting the first tank to wander into your view, and then getting murdered during your reload is not the correct way to play it. Nerfing the Velocity would force players to take their KV-2 closer to the front line.
The main problem I have with 183 and kv2 derps are their high explosive penetration s
Nerf alpha or pen on them and I'll be happy
Which makes zero sense. How does the KV-2 make a better lead to the KV-3 then the T-150???
O I read that wrong
Thought u said somewhat
And I didn’t know they are removing t150
Big bhink
They are
yeah KV-1S plays nothing like KV-3
T-150 was also sorta bad tho...
lower caliber, meh armor, bad mobility
also the turret had pennable cheeks and a cupola
I feel like the turret is kinda weak
i love how people say nerfing KV-2 shell velocity will help when super charge exists
takes supercharge over GLD :bhinking:
Supercharge increases by 30%. If they choose to use Supercharge, they lose almost a full second of aim time
why use aim time? why even bother sniping in KV-2
its a waste of time
for me sniping in a KV-2 is under 200 meters ¯_(ツ)_/¯
The KV-2? The KV-2 is fine, why are people still going on about it. It hits hard, terrible accuracy and takes a year to reload not to mention the tank has terrible armor and mobility.... All it has is a gun....
its that people are to scared to take a hit for the team to rush the KV-2 and swarm it
and thats what makes it "overpowered"
@grim horizon. It's a waste of time for someone who knows what they are doing. Not for the players I see doing it in nearly every 5, 6, or 7 match
lol >.>
@karmic perch my issue with the kv2 is that it's basically the easy button for players who don't know what they're doing.
may or may not have 498 battles in KV-2 >.> cus when friends wanna do platoons my friends are like lets to tier 6 so im like whatever and i pull out KV-2 which is pretty much the only time i use it
Nerfing the velocity on the 152 would force them to actually leave spawn and get off the red line.
thats a general problem not only with the kv2 drivers @unique scaffold
It is an iconic tank that has actual history. Honestly I would rather focus my attention on OP tanks like the Lupus.
Except that the KV 2 Rewards these players far more than any other tank does
KV-2 does what it does in every iteration of a tanks title.
Except for the 183
when people say KV-2 needs accuracy nerf yet i look at the 183 being able to cupola shot my hull down ST-1 from the redline across the map
I will respectfully disagree on this one. KV-2 seems fine to me.
And I would agree on paper the kv2 is fine. In-game I think it needs slight adjustments to force players closer to the front line
and i hate having to grind credits atm
seeing void pramo pncr ectra all running around in SU-122-54's with its broken arse dpm
Lol
like im just trying to get credits in my Super Pershing and all they have to do is bum rush me and boom im dead within 18 seconds
I don’t have an SU-122-54 if it makes you feel better
lol its more annoying seeing super unicum platoons of em tho
They buffed E50M which was 3rd highest by WR and made it 1st highest
camping A base on Canal on that high hill red lining then bum rushing tanks as they approach
Buffed E3 to make it 1st highest
yes but 4k dpm is kinda overdoing it
best dpm in game in that tank
4,275 dpm not including adrenaline
3,665 with HEAT
Now they buffed Su122-54,
All these buffs r always made so that players use gold to free xp equips or even tanks at tier 5-9 and then get to the preferred tanks ,easy money
Then comes nerf in 2-3 patches, like usual
i agree yes it did need a buff but a buff to 4.2k dpm is kinda crazy
Meanwhile Su101 is still ...
Not even 2500 dpm with top gun and then u get to tier 9, suddenly 4275 dpm
its only 6 dpm shy of 2.5k
but it gets the same top gun
yet if you go with the 100mm D-54S with 219 pen you get over 3k
ya 2.3 degrees with 100mm for dpm gotta give something to get something dude
what rear mounted casemate td is known for Gun Dep anyway
thats a turret not a casemate and its fake so who cares xP
It as a joke lol
Oh hey Bushka. I wish the Lupus could be nerfed, and I have one
i dont get jokes sorry m8
The tank is honestly broken. The meta favors large alpha and driving in the hills, the Lupus is perfect
The accuracy isn’t even as bad as the IS
There’s actually 3 td lines that get that massive dpm boost
Jagd tort and 122-54
In fact tier 8 as a whole has this weird low dpm vibe after 7 that then grades up again at 9
I’ve never understood it
it does that in pc too you have same dpm as tier 5 but it jumps massively at tier 9 thats why the running gag on pc is that tier 9 is best tier which 90% of the time it is
and how is the tort OP?
Tier 7 is certainly a DPM and mobility focused tier
with its big cupola and case mate that an ST-1 M62 AP can slice through
I smash in that thing
KV-4 is such a underrated tank imo
If you post away from the cupola you just burn anything
Tier 8 feature more armor, I would say. It’s like a mini intro to Tier 10
besides the Super Persh
Torts a beastly tank that gets hugely underestimated by most of its peers
which the normal Pershing has more turret armor than the Super Persh
funny enough
cus they didnt put an armor plate behind the mantlet like on the Pershing
thats why RU Heat can go thru the mantlet fun times
Tort isn’t terrible. It’s where it should be, not too OP, not too weak
Actually WG put armor behind the Super Perhsing’s mantlet now
since when?
So so broken
@bold dagger
While ago
thats funny lol
Can’t remember. IS-3 AP would go through the mantlet a few months ago and now it cant
They fixed most of them up
All you needed was like 220+ AP pen
Was same on e3 and t34
And it would go through
If you fired next to the gun
Yeah I remember when they buffed the E3/E4 mantlet
Yeah those armor holes were there from the start
Mmmm maybe they didn’t get em all done but I was on the room in Minsk talking with devs l
They were doing that theb
omai
@grim horizon you can’t post screenshots here?
Yeah the devs who most probably left WG just a while ago
@hybrid spoke just watched your Gravedigger video. Looks to be much of the balanced hahaha
Gravedigger is OP
Juju!
Hello sir
It seems great until you run into a good pen tank
Yeah I haven't played against tier 8 yet
Nearly to airport
I didn't
gold?
Where you flying to?
Oh you CC
Lol
Meadsy stahp it
:GWslippyPeepoH:
Adelaide
O
Wedding
Where the hell is that?
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So you pick a wedding over EU stream?
I will look into this 🧐
see
Massive Fng sharks
no armor behind mantlet
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@hybrid spoke gravedigger coming?
Yeah I don’t do sharks. Not much scares me but being in open ocean where sharks hunt... I’m good on that.
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but ya i gotta love my super pershing's totally reliable armor 🙄
Super P is so 2015
@charred comet pls enable global emotes
yet it makes just as much credits as the Lowe
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and the Lowe and Super P have best credit making for tier 8 prems in store at all times
Lol
👌
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Paul is awesome
Cos I reviewed it and it wasn’t that op apptently
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kek
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Paul is a grub
Lol
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totally balanced 👌
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He has that pic of me
Paul is paul
And he puts it on tanks
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Paul is Bushka
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🤔
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Na Paul not as tall
@hybrid spoke Queue the Helsing in crates with a 2% droprate in the next two weeks.
Lmfao
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Brick I’ll be getting those fat YouTube views on my old review yo
Ah, yes. My mathematical mistake @frozen nymph
so who would i talk to about the "armor behind american mantlets"
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And a horde of new ppl will say DUDE WTF YOU SAOD OTS NOT TEH BROKED
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cus its a joke like come on they aint fooling me
Tankenstein is the worst 10k Gold I have ever spent in the game.
Gtfo nicko
how tho it can mount Box Tenk gun?
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Wash that mouth out
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I hate it. That was back in 2015
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Ha! Get rekt @karmic perch
I LOVE IT
still can mount the Box Tenk gun?
mike likes it too
@hybrid spoke You can always say "The unicums made me say it so they can stat pad." Works every time.
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Then I got the Drac because Bushka said the Helsing was garbage 🙄
Moke is never wrong
Uhhhh
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Moke is woke
and just as fast
He means Mike
so
Lol I mean my point is if your biggest issue I. Life is you got a Drac I fail to see the downside
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To be fair, I knew the Helsing was miles more overpowered, and I still went for the Dracula so I could yolo more effectively.
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Hehehe I got both @hybrid spoke 😏
CDC is OP
cdc is garbage vs anything above 91mm of gun caliber
😎
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Noob players
I got owned by a cdc a n stream in a conq last month
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@frozen nymph I enjoy the CDC, and it is a decent tank. Just not in tournies 😉
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Was pretty hilarious
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Conq kek
Who else like the Panther 8.8cm?!
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Please go away
Conq has less gun depression than my ST-1
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i love it
@grim horizon you just moved up in my world.
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lol wat? @karmic perch
Lol
@karmic perch He was talking about the Conq
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I was in the batchat earlier. E-100 went invisible while I was about to kill him and nuked me 😰
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oof
😂
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Mad games are a lot of fun tbh
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ST-1 better turret better hull better gun depression so why bother with your silly conq bushka?
My and a friend just went double CDC in mad games. He did this.
Hopefully they play mad gamers at twister
"Let's make spawn camper heavies invisible" - WG Geniuses 2018
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Just for the lols
xD
Lol
DENIED
Little fker
😂
lol
😂
U thought
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Yes
nop
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he got clapped by the nuke cannon
Didn't get away tho
awe
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Shooting is overrated
Gitrekt skrub
this is why i dont play madgames cus why bother with stupid crap
That’s like meadsy coming home after a few beers and going in for a cuddle with mrs.meadsy
Ok ok. Let’s take this to #general-blitz-discussion
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lol
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we have fifteen kids Darren!!!
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someone started telling me super pershing was op......
@karmic perch u thot
@karmic perch Just rename this General and call it good.
Warp
like how
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Live off benefits with that many kids
#general-blitz-discussion please
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Aim high meadsy lol
Lol
😂
The Hammer is coming. Scramble!
Woops
We can practice for 15 kids tho
In fairness meadsy and his wild seed is balanced
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Kk changing channels
😐
Lol
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🤐
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but i can
@frozen nymph Brett Gardner hit .236 this year. Odds are he misses that
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why is there no #183_rant_session
because once they make it, we would pick on the point that "since you made a channel for us to rant about 183, which means it's a problematic tank, why not do something about it?" argument
but yes 183 need balancing
:^)
either nerf or removal
*replacement @somber mauve
Dissenting opinion. I don't see an issue with the 183. I do see an issue with the number being played and the number of TD's in play in higher tiers in general.
I think a (enforced) limit of 2 TD's per team would go a long way in fixing the problem.
Another option if you want to cut back on the number of 183's being played would be to make the cost to operate much higher. Makie playing the 183 a credit losing proposition similar to what WG has done with the T49.
if something is being played a lot
it means something is definitely (advantage) attracting them to use it
so If there is an advantage
remove it
not limit it
Buff T49 ! 😄
@somber mauve not necessarily. It could mean that the simplicity of TD's appeals to the average Blitz player. You and I don't find shoelaces difficult but to your average special needs student Velcro may be the better way to go. That is how I view TD's. They are the Velcro shoes of Blitz.
Foch 155. Tier x mobile td with a T49 152. Prove me wrong
I think for most people, the ability to do large amounts of damage at one time is very appealing, more than even winning. TD’s are vastly popular because they offer that ability
Worst tier x gun by far
It is
I bounced the flat side of a 215b just now
But the user rate for the Foch 155 is tiny compared to other Tier X TD’s
How on earth is that possible
“ User rate” wdym?
Raiky
People that have played the tank recently
Foch can’t be compared to 268
Or any others on that matter
Make it a 460 alpha w/ three shots and I’ll be happy
Considered to be the worst line to grind in the game, the 183 still has 8000+ playing it in the last 90 days
183 is 183
People go for it because of the gun
Foch really doesn’t have much to go for it other than more mobility than 268, plus it’s the size of a barn
but why people don't complain about jagreu
but only 183?
let's sit here and give it a think
because the jageroo doesn't hit for 1625 :^)
and why does getting hit for 1625 an issue?
i don't know
because that's basically 90% of your health gone
simple as that
does a Jagreu hit you for 1625?
no
Jageroo only offers an extra 160 more damage per round, on average, than 15 cm guns
does a 183 do? yes
Why did I just now realize that most, if not all lines in the USSR tech tree are the easiest grinds I've ever done?
Still need to buy the SU-101 so I will probably eat my words
bias da
Gotta get that 263
you can grind out the SU-101 in mad games
Yeah, and I think I got some dosh for it too.
doing 263 tokyo drift in Mad Games is 👌
Trust me I've done worse.
T25 AT tends to drift too much to be controllable
Sure the high octane fuel is fun but it's ultimately uncomfortable to use
so is the invis better than the boost?
in terms of mobility
it's lit
Invis is far better than the high octane fuel
You actually have control over the vehicle
Fix that T49 xD
high octane is stupid
I cannot control it when using the SU100y
the dash is way better
This is not Velcro btw, this is pure determination to be an ass
Scavenger op please nerf 😉
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Already got the KV 13
I got about 2 million credits that I cloud spend on the lower tier tanks
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Lol
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Nice
If I was going to enrich anything it would probably be the ARL 44 lol
Or is 3
@unique scaffold TD is the Velcro of Blitz 😂
That's the best meme I've heard today
Glad someone caught that 🤣
Kidding aside
I think you are spot on
People like simplicity to a certain degree
And TD usually offer simple gameplay. Sit and wait. Aim. Shoot. Do three big penetrating hits. Feel like the best player in the world
183 drivers be like
fires two penetrating shots
Come on team i did everything
Maybe Crocs would be a better analogy. Crocs are simple and comfortable. Hell maybe I'd even wear them around the house once in awhile... But the players we see spending their entire career in TD's are like some dude wearing Crocs to a wedding.
Crocs with Velcro would be an analogy for the real noobs then? 🤔
If the shoe fits...
Why is there so much russian bias?
@junior compass in what way
There isn’t Russian bias. Just Stalinium armour and Stalin guided shells
^^^
Does Russian bias equal players who don't know how to aim?
Pretty much
You pay your respects to Stalin by drink a bottle of vodka per battle to get his blessing
and with that very special blessing he shall protect you when he sees fit
Russian gun handling is very predictable lol
👍
There is the crossover point on each tank where you go from never going to hit to always going to hit
I play a lot of TDs, but I don’t camp XD
What does that have to relate?
@unique scaffold
Me to! @west ravine
It should be like on mad games
He is unplayable
Yea kinda at least increase the pen for HESH on 49
Exaxtly
Works only against light tanks atm
@somber badge Yes!
I want 2k damage on normal games
Now?
Yes
Yup show me
75 is pretty low for 152mm gun
@somber badge agree
Heat is fck bullshit
Russian heavy will laugh on it
All heavys have 90% chance to bounce from t49
Spaced armor-
@somber badge yea but most of players i mean that Smart
Never let You hit from butt
So try HE 😂
Eh
I delete :(
I mean if You even drive on His butt You will aim on him that long to let him turn around
No that doesnt happen
@west ravine but HE is good when You have good RNG
If not... You shot for 100 max
And reload 20 s
Lovely light
Yea
Yes
U can pen is3's ass with he
11/10
It's not that hard
Ye sure
I don't play t49 too annoying
Thats why You cant Tell what to do and when
Is only 5% chance per Day when You can pen is by HE in butt
Cuz You try be Smart
But True is that you cant ever Time do that
No it's actually pretty consistent
Every*
I mean not every time I play but mby once per 3 days
It's a slot machine on tracks
If only they gave the T49 an option to run a gun that was less RNG dependant...perhaps in 90mm...
But then you can’t oneshot tier 7s
And tier 8 heavies
I hit an amx 50-100 with one last night for 1470 and burned him
I agree and I prefer the 152. I'm just saying there is a alternative to the 152.
the durp normally is for lolz and shits and giggles the 90mm is for competitive
am i right on that or? atleast on pc and console thats what you do on T49 @unique scaffold
@grim horizon the derp is more comp than the 90 lol
cant comment if its the same on blitz as i havent played the T49 here
The 90 is useless here
it wont be with these Tier 8/9 german super heavies coming
esp with the durp guns wont have fun needing to HE to do damage on those
yeah derp meta will be hard to pull off with the big bois around
I don't play comp.
T32 is beast in mad games atleast for me
sure i may have quite a few 0 damage matches so far but in beginnings it tell our lights to ram me if they need heal and ill heal them up some as well as the heal from them ramming
i dont mind it as long as i can keep others alive it means more fire power
The only change the 152 needs is economical HE round with a bit more pen.
They shouldn’t have nerfed the t49s old HE pen
10mm more pen would be good
Yes the module damage was broken
@unique scaffold yup
But they nerfed it from 80 to 70
Which kinda ruined it
i mean people complain about 152 on T49 having stupidly low pen but its not a sterotypical 152
Pen and reload should have been left alone
^
I run cal shells on mine and it’s just abysmal
i mean i can see why going up the T49 line is for like fun and stuff but why not the T69 so your used to the American autoloaders before the 54E1
I'd settle for a high explosive round that wasn't considered a premium round
meh
^ or switch the he and heat
Reed
the autoloaders aren't hard to figure out tbh
That and the t69 is garbage
75 mm HE pen isn't enough for a 153
i mean i hate the 12t here on blitz but i love the console 12t
On console you have a Heat round and a high explosive round as standard arounds. Then you have a better high explosive round as your premium round. Or at least that's how it was when I played console
The Russian heavies r impenetrable by HE at butt
i love how yall are comparing a gun launcher round to a normal round like KV-2 has
@lusty silo fix t49 HE pen plz and I’ll love you forever
its funny
¯_(ツ)_/¯
The t49 used to be able to HE Russian heavies
Which was proper
Make the stupid 40%s regret their tank
Now WG removed that
lol
KV-4 is underrated compared to IS-3 tbfh
like i personally have better stats in the IS-3 but i prefer playing the KV-4 as i just find it not as generic as the IS-3's rush and face hug tactics
only reason i went down the IS line is for the BL-9 for my ST-1
cus fk using a 175 pen at tier 9
but ya i cant stand the 12t here i just cant get it down right unlike console where i do meh in it but i enjoy the console 12t maybe its the clip size with an extra shot but idk
Just run the T49 with calibrated
I do
people dont like using logic tho xP
But I wanna use rammer so fix the HE pen plz
Well too bad
pick & choose you cant have the best of both worlds m8
It’s a tier 8 derp tank. It has bad pen
i mean anyone would say yes to that tho 100k credits a game sounds like good match making
That I get
id be lucky to get 60k in the Super Persh xP
prem time + heat only hitting ur shots makes decent cash
in one match
:l what about them?
It’s very high for a shell that will mostly splash
just upgrade it to the t 49A, problem solved
Cancer^
lol next we know they are begging for STRV line which i can never imagine coming to blitz
They are both disgusting
on opposite ends of the spectrum
Don’t aim and do 250+ no problem
@quick lichen it has rely bad pen-
STRV with the hydraulic suspension would make a new button to be included and then training for new users which doesnt exist anyway
and then the graphics to go along with it
Heat is next to useless-
Players who try to slug it out with a IS-X in a T49 are doing it wrong anyways.
^
🤔
exactly
How many people are going to complain about derp gun pen?
someone mentioned the meatball tank?
meatball tank?
Meatballs
strv autoloader
:l
Next you’ll complain hesh doesn’t get enough pen
oh no i ment the cheese wedges @void pewter
hesh doesn't do enough dmg
should roll for 2k
@void pewter that’s more like it
How do u know what we will complaint- @quick lichen
A T49 should be baiting the mindless IS-X driver into the line of site of your big guns.
next thing we know people are gonna be asking for the 183 to be buffed 🙄
Nothing like that will happy
Which it can do very well.
Happen
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It is mostly balanced
In what way??
The equipment makes it unbalanced
iraik can i join pramo (:
With the traverse boost
My problem with the 183 is that there are 4 per match with another 5 Tank Destroyers in the match as well
Yes @void pewter
183 is bad, hardly gets used in tourney play
the way how itcan red line and still hit the people from accros the map in 183
thanks dad
183 isn’t competitive at all
Every 152mm has at least 85mm of HE pen,
sigh
183 ruins games almost every time it’s in one
Except 49
183 is horribly balanced
a 30% can take out a super unicorn in 1 shot if he gets good rng
Hold on a second
I agri
Hush
like reee
silence
I think removing the AP round on the 183 would be ok
That’s the single dumbest thing I’ve ever heard @unique scaffold
hahahah
lol
You pinged me to tell me something I alrdy know?
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i have never even heard that suggestion
oof
because it's so dumb
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your pfp is weeblike your opinion doesnt matter @elfin mortar xP
tru
Um
183 in mad games
Can we get back to t49???
no
ive heard 263 is more broken in mad games than it already is in pubbies
T49 is fun
One shots anything under 2437
Remember decisions taken by moderators and admins can’t be discussed. @elfin mortar pls stay on topic
How is that balanced
Hai @ivory fractal
its easy its called get someone to yolo scout 183 then everyone focus tf outta it
xP
😝
Amx 50b pokes around a corner and gets irradiated and heshed for 2230. How is that balanced?
America explain
Instantly
So unless someone wants to willingly keep peaking in front of 183
Then it won’t be spotted
263 is good
183 became even more inbalanced
183s on na are almost always along the world border
i dont mind poking Jageru's and 183's while hull down in ST-1
183 has same effect in pubs and mad games
cus stronk turret Da
But it’s hard because there’s several spots
So although you can guess
You can’t be sure till it’s either spotted or someone gets nuked
Ye
just hide the commanders hatch and have bouncy house all day long xP
So again
How is it fair for a 50b to poke one and get killed for it in one shot
so can someone explain how ST-1 is broken cus i got someone telling me it was broken the other day?
hope they don't pen
Fv uses irradiation anywhere it quickly gets spotted- in that ti
One can kill it soon enough
It’s not like he forgot to repair his tracks and several people hit him
@grim horizon it’s broken from the front when hull down
irradiator makes you spotted for the duration it's active. so if u kill they guy you use it on, unspotted immediately again
when hull down
Side armor is a bit troll
I have done it tags y I'm saying
saying the ST-1 is broken hull down looks at T32
@elfin mortar I bet a 183 could irradiate a tank and shoot within .5 of a second
i tried and didn't pen hesh
Then the guy dying Ofc will be a Noob- roaming out in the open with an Fv lurking at him
reee
How do you react to that
i mean we could always say open a TTR and then test it lol @quick lichen @somber badge
You’re dead before you aim or run away
I play super passive with 183s floating about lol
I'm here anyways
lol
Ping don't matter
I only play meds in tier X, I'm not great at getting damage, but I play a pretty good scout. My biggest issue with 183's is that once I spot them (from cover) my team is too passive to shoot at them.
183 is hard to use in wastelands at least
@unique scaffold heavies are sniper tanks
In tier X all tanks are sniper tanks.
they have big alpha, must be snipers
Honestly
you just did
@somber badge I guess
Pramo rounds need their full alpha back.
Between the equipment hit in 3.8 and the Pramo Nerf high tier meds took a double kick to the nads.
#makemedsgreatagain
Then again it makes people who heatspam things like the borsig look even more stupid
I ♥️HE spamming Borsigs.
Nah
120 mm get 360 instead of 340 so 90%
It’s depressing shooting someone for 290 with an IS-4
I think that WG shouldn't have dumbed down the game because your average player was too stupid to realize that you can buy premium rounds with silver.
It did ruin comp a bit though
All anyone did was shoot gold
My is-7 loadout was 5-20-5
Taking a hit to DPM by nerfing the rammer, loosing Vents, and then neutering pramo rounds really kind of sucked.
Meanwhile buffing armor, speed, and view range on heavies...
https://media1.tenor.com/images/17e13eb07f2b3f046ae5c80dad65648a/tenor.gif?itemid=5480485
Lower dpm becomes more about gradually working over yanks
Tanks*
Being smart and timing shots
Making sure you pen
I get it. I just don't like it.
It’s not as forgiving
But I've accepted it and am doing what I can.
It’s interesting how different changes can be throughout the modes of the game
IS-7 and 215b are excellent in pubs but hardly used in comp
My experience is limited solely to pub matches. I've become accustomed to the chaos there. I'm not sure how I'd do in a comp match.
Maybe someday I'll play some comp matches to see how it goes....
@unique scaffold comp is fun until you see tier 8 and the teams of 7 is5s
Tier 6 is arl and kv1s spam
Tier ten is the only really diverse comp tier
Kuro > arl
@quick lichen post nerf arl>kuro :'v
Nope
Yope
Weeb power > France
No
@pale saffron it’s being removed so you’ll see plenty less of them
groovy
Aren’t they getting nerfed and removed?
Hi ladies
Wg butchered their own game with that move
@hasty juniper Kuro Loli Mini
OwO
owo
wots this watashi-sama
WZ-113 need a traverse speed buff
@astral trout If by "butchered their own game" you meant "took away the training wheels from players that should have moved beyond tier 4 long ago" then I completely agree.
@silk seal what are you high on?