#td2-raid-discussions

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late scarab
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I'm with QPsyche, I feel like free loader would be a better term

humble solar
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I usually have a gull group or sub randos in 1 at a time and the difference 1 player can make it stupid. Makes everyone else pull a little extra weight. Even if they have the right builds, playstyle thats shit ruins the run

ripe crown
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I've been wanting to try out this build a friend of mine helped me make but I've only been able to play discovery.

humble solar
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@ripe crown what is it

ripe crown
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I'm running 4 piece hunter's fury with Chameleon and Momento

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Almost a god rolled Chameleon too

humble solar
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Shit idk, maybe in a casual group for boss 2 if your an ads guy and maybe boss 4 for ads. When i see green gear in my raids besides future or TP for boss 4, i make them change or gtfo so not sure how viable it is. Lemme know if it does work tho, im curious. @ripe crown

ripe crown
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I'm a casual

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I can already tell you're someone I wouldn't raid with XD

humble solar
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I do fun raids sometimes lol, and if shit can improve my group im always down to learn from others

ripe crown
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In the firing range I've racked up to almost 10mil DPS

warm wren
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@humble solar Ive run HF for boss 2 and boss 4 in IH for my last, idk, like 5 or 6 runs? they all went smoother than my previous slew of runs. Still run a rifle build for boss 1 and 3, though.

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Also, Bold of you to not want a FI healer at all, man.

late scarab
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TP in boss 4?

humble solar
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Lol future and tp were exceptions, but if it worked well im down to give it a try. And @ripe crown stacking up high dps in the range is easy. Can do that with any weapon on almost any crit build

late scarab
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what's TP?

humble solar
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@late scarab true patriot

late scarab
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which role is true patriot doing? the stagger tank or the key tank maybe?

humble solar
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Tank. My team skips key phases so for 4th phase healer staggers

late scarab
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does your healer still use a chem launcher?

humble solar
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Idk, i told her the drop hive at auto turret and watch boss. If we need heals, we run 5ft to the hive

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The ad guys stay in the back btw, no one is up on the doors

late scarab
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I see

humble solar
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But yea 4pcTP with backpack, perf. Vanguard chest and motherly gloves. And guns are sleipnir and rav.

late scarab
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so he can stagger too, then

humble solar
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For 2nd and 3rd phase yea

flint iris
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Shooting range dps is inaccurate and shouldnt be used to measure builds

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I can rack up 150 million if I wanted to with no reds at all

alpine sequoia
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Why would you not want a FI healer? It's literally free damage and you never go down

ripe crown
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I just got done doing DH Discovery with a group and ohhhhhh boy did it suck

flint iris
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Wait till you do normal then

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Yikes

trail tartan
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whats the best way to measure dps with any build then if the range is inaccurate

alpine sequoia
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Any raid boss

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They're mostly dps checks anyways

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Most people will be able to tell if you'll do fine based on your gear, crit chance damage, talents etc

trail tartan
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ah

flint iris
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Dmg per shot

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Compare it to other peoples’ shots

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And how fast you can kill heroic npcs and bosses

trail tartan
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makes sense

verbal mist
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Aim for the head .. best advise you can get 😎

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My raid builds mostly consists of 2 prov , contractors , foxes , groupo and coyote . I run unbreakable most of the time . Gc very strong but if your dead your doing no damage

flint iris
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Might wanna consider walker + ceska if you’re more of a body shot gamer

trail tartan
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i might try readding coyotes at some point

humble solar
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@alpine sequoia i said future and TP were exceptions. Those are the 2 gear sets i allow. Future is FI btw

crisp merlin
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@humble solar whats the purpose of motherly love on the tp build?

warm wren
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Motherly Love gives skill health

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Shield is a skill

humble solar
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Better than the forge on a tier 6 shield build

vagrant wing
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You're missing out on some cool stuff you can do with gearsets like striker and aces - but for a casual raid i guess it's ok

ripe crown
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What's RV5?

warm wren
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Means Raid Voice 5

humble solar
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@vagrant wing strikers is nice but would rather just do the rav build if you're talking about using it for heavys on boss 4

sacred stone
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Someone on Twitch is trying to solo IH lol

warm ibex
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Solo IH is not going to work i think. Boss 2 Controlroom and Electric boxes?

amber blaze
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Maybe they're using cheats. Otherwise good luck

sacred stone
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I know he’s been on Boss 1 for like 2 hours lol

gaunt grail
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17.23 dark hours completion done hellz yea

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39.43 iron horse done I feel accomplished

sacred stone
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Well done @gaunt grail

gaunt grail
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Only took 316 dark hours completions to get 17 min time but we did PRD for the win

sacred stone
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Those are awesome times!

late scarab
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lol, Alder called you a casual, Squak. I like this channel but everyone comes off as a bit egotistical here

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(Squak himself was thumbing his nose to the other gearset users, as well)

warm wren
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#normalizegearsetusers

vagrant wing
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@vagrant wing strikers is nice but would rather just do the rav build if you're talking about using it for heavys on boss 4
@humble solar Striker is for the bullet and the turrets not the heavies. The heavies required aces HH

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lol, Alder called you a casual, Squak. I like this channel but everyone comes off as a bit egotistical here
@late scarab when did i say that? Read before you call ppl out. I said that for a casual Raid no gearset is a good policy

late scarab
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you can split hairs if you want, but the implication is that squak is a casual raider, since that's his policy

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bro, its ok, though.. everyone's elitist here

unique shoal
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Nothing to do with elitism. Striker is for a well composed group who maybe looking to do IH fast (speedrun). Striker is good for boss 1 and 4 in a speedrun. A regular raid (also known as casual raid or lfg raid) a normal dps works better. To use striker on boss 1 and 4 takes practice and patience in the group.

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I should mention that some gear sets are more than welcome. Hunter fury works VERY well in lfg raid on boss 1, 2 and 4. Bulwark or true patriot tank is good on 4. Future goes without saying is must. Striker can be used in lfg raid on boss 4 (if you know how to use properly). I wont tell people to change gear, along as they dont run tank on boss 1, or a skill build at all. Even if they are new as long as you have like a 60-80% rolls on your all red build it shows you have direction, and atleast know what the raid requires.

late seal
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I have to agree with emily. I personally run gearsets because running the all high end meta build is boring. Even with strikers, negotiators, hunters fury, i never had a problem with clearing adds or dealing boss dps. all i can say is use the proper gearset for the situation.

unique shoal
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Agreed, like if your gonna use striker use on boss 4 where u can build stacks from iron horse, not boss 2 when you haven't got much to shoot at. Same for hunters fury use it on boss 2 where you can hug the spawn doors, not boss 3 when the room is big and you're gonna be far from your adds. If you are sensible with gearsets they are both fun and viable in raid. If you get kicked for running gear sets that's not a raid u wanna be in anyway.

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I still use hunters fury on boss 3 because I'm suicidal

late seal
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Exactly on boss 3 i run negotiators bec its easy clearing adds with it and building the stacks is easy. boss 1 ill run strikers bec very easy to build stacks there. boss 2 is usually hunters or negotatiors depending on location im at. boss 4 can be any 3 of those sets.

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and if they game ever brings back classified gear sets, things will get very very fun

humble solar
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@vagrant wing me and one other guy actually have gunner spec on our rav builds to take out the mortars. Ive used strikers before but each group has a preference and most speedrunners lately dont use strikers. I agree it can help speed things up, but not for us. And I've used the aces hh, always like sniping, but its mosre consistent with 2 rav builds and the TP tank flaggin him up with a sleipnir. Been real close several times to sub 30 but either bluescreens on morozova, or small mistakes that cost time here and there.

uncut crypt
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Striker build is best 😍

vagrant wing
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@humble solar out of curiosity how many memebrs need to focus down the heavy before he jumps down? Are you switching between the Ravenous and an M1A or just pure Ravenous?

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Ignore the first question. Just realized you said 2 ppl

amber blaze
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I think it's fun using a hunters fury build with lady death during boss 2 and running A side solo reading the symbols. Just gotta know it's limited for doing lots of boss damage or shooting the weakpoints.

unique shoal
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@humble solar my group got sub25 using striker on boss 4, if we knew about skip phase could have been sub23

humble solar
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@vagrant wing swapping to M1A. And @unique shoal nice time

half wren
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I am noob to keep the striker Stacks

humble solar
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@half wren use an acs or rock and roll. Take 6ish shots to get full stack. Or th 93r pistol, shoots about as fast as a vector.

half wren
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@humble solar Not using striker Anymore, thank you

tender hollow
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Whats striker good for on last boss?

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And skip phase? Standing inside the garage?

humble solar
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Standing in the tunnel with the elec field still on

tender hollow
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And hows that possible?

vagrant wing
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Extensive healing and some use of the tactician perk

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Whats striker good for on last boss?
with 3 - 4 strikers you can save between 3 - 4 rockets on each phase

lucid adder
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hello friends

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imagine saying you can get sub23 if you knew the skip on morovova. Why you still stuck at 25 min when you said you know how to skip 3d boss and do last boss in 30 seconds

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@unique shoal

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sub16 when?

unique shoal
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dont wanna get banned again, not that hard to understand.

lucid adder
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all talk. Sub23 when?

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25 is so two months ago

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avengers assemble

unique shoal
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dont speedrun anymore, more fun doing lfg and toxic raids. im leaving in 29th, dont care about the time. just dont wanna get banned. the 3rd boss skip is insane and funny though

lucid adder
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can't commit until the end I guess

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no desire to win in some ppl

unique shoal
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let me know when u get first

lucid adder
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soono man soon. Just need @glossy blaze to finish with his math homework lol

unique shoal
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cool, @ me when u get there

lucid adder
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I got you

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HFR who

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soon

unique shoal
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not talking about hfr, beat the 16 min team in first, then @ me

lucid adder
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oh 16 is out of the picture

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they are not first

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Talk to me when you are sub25 then @ me

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I have to go do something productive

unique shoal
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sub16 is the real time

lucid adder
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not sub25 yet sorry

unique shoal
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not sub16 yet

tender hollow
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Sub 16 is literally impossible

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DH speed running even i cant get lower than 17 mins so hows IH 16 min runs possible

unique shoal
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we pushing buttons here, realise we are messing around here

late scarab
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Whats the 3rd boss skip? Were you kidding at being banned for skipping?

unique shoal
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toxic secret, paypal @polar sphinx for more info.

lucid adder
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@polar sphinx doesnt even know. No one in iog knows the strat. IOG is dead what is this clan you were talking about when you said it's a clan secret? I some how cant post screenshots here

charred hornet
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Imagine talking shit and everybody thinks its true

frosty rock
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Imagine thinking sub 16 min is a real time...

dusky bolt
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@frosty rock welp, you cant fix stupid.

frosty rock
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LOL

unique shoal
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imagine crying over bugged leaderboards lmao

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in the words of the famous @polar sphinx "why u haf to b mad, itz jus game"

tender hollow
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@unique shoal is that why you're using a fake photoshoped photo? too much crying?

unique shoal
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@tender hollow tonight you're gonna get it...

tender hollow
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we're gonna see in dz 😄

frosty rock
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Wait, who was complaining about the 16 min time?

vagrant wing
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Me

frosty rock
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where?

vagrant wing
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All the time and everywhere

unique shoal
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16 min time is real, nothing you can say will make me change my mind. 16 min is target, go get em.

frosty rock
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@unique shoal You know that time has been there since like the 2nd or 3rd week of the raid being out...

unique shoal
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So?

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They number 1

frosty rock
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I've been speed running in this game for over a year now. There were multiple glitched times on the Dark Hours leaderboards that were never fixed. I also don't recognize any of their names. Also, there's only 7 of them, that time is completely fake. There was most definitely a glitch within the game where someone disconnected and the timer reset.

unique shoal
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So what? Surviving in the electricity in boss 4 is not intended, neither is open door before reseting the raid. Every speedrun is glitched. So number 1 is valid.

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How bout fast travel before boss 3, not a glitch?

frosty rock
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no, those are called mechanics

unique shoal
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Yes secret mechanics

frosty rock
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??

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you just contradicted yourself

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mechanics are different than glitches

dusky bolt
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Imagine not being able to differentiate mechanics and glitches. Feelsbad.

frosty rock
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LOL

unique shoal
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How is reseting the raid and getting invisible door a mechanics? Lmao

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What a mechanic

frosty rock
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That's why we (LFN) don't use that

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This is the exact reason we don't use that

unique shoal
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How is exploiting the shitty code of the game and fast traveling to SKIP a raid cutscene that shouldn't be skippable a mechanic?

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What a mechanic.

frosty rock
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You're reaching now haha

unique shoal
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Hey glitch is glitch

frosty rock
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Fast travel checkpoints are not a glitch, those are also a mechanic

unique shoal
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Don't cry u can't get first

frosty rock
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stop looking for reasons to be right when you've lost the fight, too many people do that, just own up

tender hollow
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@unique shoal for once I aggree with you 😘

frosty rock
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I'm not crying, never was, never did

unique shoal
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What a fight, fighting about whos glitches are glitches and whos are "mechanics"

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@tender hollow love u too

tender hollow
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but still I'm prettier

frosty rock
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You're participating...

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This is completely pointless lol

unique shoal
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I dont think u know what fight means much like the word mechanic

frosty rock
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Whatever helps you sleep at night

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I'm playin portal 2 atm so i'm done here

unique shoal
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Ha, defeat

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Go back boi

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Play baby game

tender hollow
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That's not nice @unique shoal

unique shoal
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Sorry ur right

tender hollow
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Maybe he likes easy games

unique shoal
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Sorry everyone

tender hollow
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Everyone has their tastes

trail lynx
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cmon´that all u got? started to get funny in here!!! 😄

unique shoal
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There are no raid glitches its just all mechanics. Sorry sorry

frosty rock
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i've been laughing all day at @lucid adder 's attempt to enlighten him, thought I'd take a try assuming he doesn't know who I am and see if they would listen to not 1, but 2 speed runners that are faster hah

tender hollow
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My mom told me there was a time where ppl couldn't update games through internet because they had like no wifi or something and back then all game bugs were just mechanics - there were no glitches

unique shoal
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@tender hollow lmao

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Glitch for you, mechanic for me

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Bunch of noobs think they are "speedrunners"

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Do the raid in sub 10 then talk kids

frosty rock
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LOL

tender hollow
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Yeah ok, but then they will reset leaderboards again

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because mechanics

trail lynx
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aren´t we all just glitsches in the matrix😂

unique shoal
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People take leaderboards seriously, I can kill boss 1 with oxidiser builds faster than any of these "speedrunners" can with their dps build

tender hollow
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I love oxidiser too @unique shoal it's got the right shape 😉 for the boss

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it's a bit toxic though

unique shoal
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Exactly with 7 oxidiser builds we can kill boss 1 in under 10 minutes. Speedrunners run noob dps builds

tender hollow
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they're not real speedrunners then

unique shoal
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They dont even know 3rd boss skip strat, so no, their not speedrunners. Just wannabes

tender hollow
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yeah but skipping the boss... isn't this "mechanic" a glitch? 🙂

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I don't mean it shouldn't be used... in my opinion everything that the game allows should be used

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but devs think otherwise

unique shoal
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Its a glitch until RXL or LFN use it, then it becomes a "mechanic" like 4th boss skipping phase 2 and 3. dont you know the rules yet?

tender hollow
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Oh right, the speedrunners

flat ridge
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DH FRESH RV8

unique shoal
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Wrong channel @flat ridge here we discuss the intricacies of glitch and mechanics.

flat ridge
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Ok Sorry

frosty rock
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Nah, this is where mad speed runners come to troll

unique shoal
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Speaking of trolling, why haven't "speedrunners" switched to oxidiser for boss 1. Its just faster, period.

amber blaze
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Summit that bad that people started to troll, maybe that is the real end game content. Either that or wishing that cyberpunk, dying light 2, outriders is good enough to pull people away from a game where there is nothing left to do 😛

unique shoal
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Well watchdogs legions will mean curtains for this game for me atleast. Starving for open world game.

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Should hold me over till cyberpunk

amber blaze
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Not gonna buy a game where stormzy has made a track for

frosty rock
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@unique shoal Are you being serious about oxidizer on boss 1?

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Cause we've tried all oxidizer and it wasn't very good

flint iris
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Oxidizer works very nicely from my experience, but it’s not for “speedrun” speedrun because of its charging time and waiting to swap loadouts for boss 2

frosty rock
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I mean, oxidizer killed the boss when we tried it, but it didn't kill him very fast

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I still think it's faster if everyone just goes DPS, have a healer overcharge, and regulus the shields

flint iris
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Which is why it isn’t the most optimal way for speedrun strats

frosty rock
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wait

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what's most optimal?

flint iris
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Well, tbh I can’t really answer that, cause I don’t speedrun a ton

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But I know for sure there’s faster ways to do it than with oxidizers

frosty rock
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yeah, I just thought your phrasing in your previous response was implying that oxidizers were the optimal strat for speedrunners

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I misread it

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reading it back, I can clearly see that you were saying the opposite haha

flint iris
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Haha yeah, the next time we did it we tried with all dps, and that was certainly faster, not as much waiting so we can instantly switch builds and wipe for fieser

verbal mist
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I didn’t want to say anything but geez the comments make me cringe . Dps is much faster than oxidizer . Skip boss 3 ??? You mean die after you put in the key?

late scarab
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Boss 3 skip was a troll

frosty rock
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@verbal mist that's why I asked him about the oxidizer on boss 1, pretty sure he's still trolling

frosty rock
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haha

iron lake
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so i did my first raid ever in div2 earlier with awesome people in here. no exotic but was fun and a little bit confused on some area with the mechanics. they let me just dps and did alright. anyway, so the last chest at the boss can be opened with 5 keys. can keys be farmed with the same character or no?

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so the ironworks base materials can only drop in the raid once per week per character?

humble solar
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Leave to the pc guys to exploit glitches lol. Rewritting code in one tab while while playing division in the other 😂

late seal
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@iron lake keys can be farmed but only from the final bosses of both DH and IH while you can get the 4 from the secret chests once a week

iron lake
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@late seal noted. as for the exotic drop. will that be the same? once per week per character?

late seal
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as many times as you can open that chance

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chest*

iron lake
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but that chest will require 5 keys to open right?

late seal
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yea u farm the final boss 5 times in a row and you can open the chest again

iron lake
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oh boy lol noted

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thank you @late seal

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oh by the way, where can we get the future initiative chest and backpack drops? IH raid?

late scarab
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yes

late seal
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alot of people have the final boss CP saved on different characters, just look on the #lfg-raid-pc and ppl sometimes advertise for final boss farms

iron lake
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oh cool

late seal
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or if you hate yourself you can run the full raid 5 times

iron lake
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hahaha

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i might do that lmao 😄 just want to learn all the mechanics in there. first time raiding earlier with awesome group. i did learn some stuff but not the complicated ones haha 😄

late seal
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thats good atleast your taking charge into learning the other mechanics, alot people with many clears only done dps rolls in IH

uncut crypt
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oh boy lol noted
@iron lake

Been there, done that. Ran 15 times after key reset on monthly basis til I finally gotten it

iron lake
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GG 😄

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is dark hours easier vs iron horse? never tried dark hours

uncut crypt
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Dark hours, just pure dps. 1 jammer and 1 healer

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More than enough. Occasionally u can skip healer for 2nd and 3rd boss if your dps is over 9000 or you have a crew you usually run very well with. Healers are always welcomed

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Tardigrade and perfect vanguard used usually for 2nd boss cause of the survival duration

iron lake
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I see, good to know. hoping to try dark hours sometime before reset lol 😄

uncut crypt
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Look in the lfg channel. Usually many run it

iron lake
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I will thank you.

uncut crypt
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Again,, dps build are the norm, jammer a must for last boss. Healer and tanker are optional

restive herald
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How do I learn the pac man on 3rd boss in IH

iron lake
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question: how do they make boss checkpoints? run the whole thing with an alt account and stop at the boss?

amber blaze
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Why?

uncut crypt
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Why?

warm wren
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Why?

unique shoal
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Why?

alpine sequoia
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How do people jam the 3 waves of drones at the end? Even with btsu gloves I only have enough charges for the first 2 waves

uncut crypt
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Jam, drop hive, jam again

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Usually 2 waves per rotation no? Only 3rd wave upon destroying either front or back

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Unless you guys lack dps

pine glacier
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I use skilled on a wyvern chest and most of the time I don’t even have to drop the hive @alpine sequoia

alpine sequoia
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Okay so that's probably it, I jam, throw hive and pop it then jam again but then more drones spawn out

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So I thought I was missing something

uncut crypt
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Dont pop hive, just drop it and pick up again

alpine sequoia
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With btsu's I dont have to actually pop it?

uncut crypt
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I use restoration hive.
After first jam, drop onto the ground where I am standing, then it will refresh cooldown for jam. Then pick it up

alpine sequoia
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I run future initiative I think the cooldown reset is hard wired isnt it?

uncut crypt
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U use future initiative for rb drones?

alpine sequoia
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Not specifically for the drones just for the bonus damage and the better healing, I just get a second jam through the exotic gloves

uncut crypt
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Not sure if that is a new method. But usually is hardwire or another method.

tender hollow
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1st boss melting him in 5 secs is dps still the best way?

alpine sequoia
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If you can kill boomer in 5 seconds I dont see why youd try any other way

uncut crypt
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If you can kill boomer in 5 seconds I dont see why youd try any other way
@alpine sequoia

You can't anymore. Max damage is 2 bars of armor

alpine sequoia
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Okay I was about to say

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googles BEST OXIDIZER BUILD 2020 UPDATED TU 11.1

amber blaze
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oh that dude deleted his post lol

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someone should make it into a web mini game 😄

uncut crypt
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oh that dude deleted his post lol
@amber blaze

Ran way with his tail tucked between his legs

tender hollow
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Dark hours on razorback worst thing to do is ad control. Half the times people let their ads run around and kill ppl

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For Williams my team does overcharge dmg to him. But sometimes taking the key upstairs takes 15 secs but shows it like 29 secs

uncut crypt
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Dark hours on razorback worst thing to do is ad control. Half the times people let their ads run around and kill ppl
@tender hollow and then the blame game happens

verbal mist
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Razor drones have changed . I ran hw 4 piece , wyvern chest with skilled and china light knees and survivalist and doesn’t kill drones . I then tried technician and worked with skilled . It will work with gc on chest in survivalist though . I might try vile with 4 hw and wyvern chest with skilled

uncut crypt
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I use 4 piece hw with kinetic momentum (wyvern) and btsu. 1 shots drones :)

alpine sequoia
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To be fair the only reason that boss fight ever falls apart is randoms dying to ads, everything else is pretty easy tbh

tender hollow
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To be fair the only reason that boss fight ever falls apart is randoms dying to ads, everything else is pretty easy tbh
@alpine sequoia its pretty sad if two DPS cannot handle 2 yellow AI every 60 seconds. I exclude the corner with the EMP.

alpine sequoia
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but even then that's literally all you have to kill, the chungus is a free kill anyways since he has no armor and he goes straight for the terminal

muted horizon
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It should be made known if ppl dont know the key to razorback chongas by now, to shoot them in the butt - bypasses the armor completely and they die twice as fast

unique shoal
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HFR 💋 💋 💋 ❤️ ❤️ ❤️

crisp merlin
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what is hfr

unique shoal
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Clan of great integrity. HFR the only legit speedrun group for iron horse raid. ❤️ 💋 ❤️ 💋 ❤️ 💋 ❤️ 💋 ❤️. The rest use glitches and exploits to get their time.

normal mirage
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sniffs I smell bait.

unique shoal
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@normal mirage your nose is better than some other crybabies who take this game (of all games) too seriously.

crisp merlin
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whats the link to this discord??

drowsy skiff
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How do players keep farming the last bosses in these raids? How can they save that last checkpoint and run it over and over?

toxic orchid
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use an alt to get the checkpoint, log back on main

drowsy skiff
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Then start the raid using that alt? Leave and come back on the main each time to complete it?

toxic orchid
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yah

drowsy skiff
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Rgr thanks

lusty matrix
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would like to do both raids have not done either

iron lake
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soooo, at the last boss in IH. lets see we have 2 tanks.. 1 tank will be taking the keys and working on the machine. the other tank will take the aggro from the boss correct?

flint iris
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Yes

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Sometimes one tank is good

muted horizon
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the other tank doesnt "tank" boss - he simply follows boss to stragger using either merciless, ravenous, or concussion nade/explosive skill (stickey) - there's no threat table for the boss when she's out, she aggros randomly

drowsy skiff
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Does my alt need to complete all the bosses up to the last boss to use it for farming or can I join someone else's game already at the last boss and then use that check point to farm later?

toxic orchid
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just join a boss 4 group, ask if you can get cp on an alt; login to alt go to the room before boss 4

obtuse osprey
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Can you get the Hot Foot Merit on Discovery IH? We have some casual players in our clan that want some achievements.

copper lotus
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At last boss of Iron Horse, do you have to hit the cannon shell or can you hit the cannon itself? I've seen players that hit the cannon or the train to damage the shell, but I'm afraid of doing that just in case it miss which I have also seen, can we get a confirm on where the hitbox is?

glossy blaze
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As long as the cannon shell is within the AOE circle of the RPG shot, it'll still be damaged

spice sluice
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Hey good day next week or this weekend how can help me get bulwark and future gear from both I need chest and back pack so I can finish regulus projects

unique shoal
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@muted horizon not true, you can keep morozova aggro for the whole fight. You can even keep her locked in on one place.

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Dispensing incorrect information is not helpful.

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Unless ofcourse you're trolling 😜

charred hornet
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@normal mirage your nose is better than some other crybabies who take this game (of all games) too seriously.
@unique shoal 🙍‍♂️

frosty rock
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@charred hornet Welcome to the party, this clown has been trolling in here for days 🥶

dusky bolt
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@charred hornet Welcome to the party, this clown has been trolling in here for days 🥶
@frosty rock Don't hurt his feelings. He might claim that you are trying to exploit his vulnerability. :/

frosty rock
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Oh no!

dusky bolt
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After all, you are an exploiter.

frosty rock
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Ah shucks, I've beaten the raid in under 23 minutes... instant exploiter

dusky bolt
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Ah shucks, I've beaten the raid in under 23 minutes... instant exploiter
@frosty rock 23 mins pfffff "Do the raid in sub 10 then talk kids"

frosty rock
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SiXtEeN mInUtEs Is PoSsIbLe

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okay okay, I'm done LOL

dusky bolt
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SiXtEeN mInUtEs Is PoSsIbLe
@frosty rock stop being toxic. "sub16 is the real time"

frosty rock
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It's possible with only 7 players too, imagine that

charred hornet
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wow man, need that strat

frosty rock
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Yeah man, we were wayyyy behind with a 5 hour 4 man completion, even if we did 2nd boss first try... Geez

dusky bolt
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"sub 16 is the real time", "HFR the only legit speedrun group for iron horse raid."

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The stupid is strong in this one.

frosty rock
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lol, absolute savage

tender hollow
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@frosty rock if 8 ppl are unable to get past 1st boss what are they noobs? Lol

glossy blaze
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they're just utterly trash at the game

frosty rock
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I mean, I was gonna give them the benefit of the doubt and say they just don't know the strat, but I think that's what a newbie is LOL

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But on a real note @tender hollow Everyone just run M1A Focus Vigilance builds and you'll kill him pretty dang quick

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M1A still the GOAT, Fox's and Contractor's still BIS imo

charred hornet
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hybrid build best

frosty rock
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HYBRID BUILDS BELONG IN THE TRASH UNLESS BEING USED FOR A VERY SPECIFIC INSTANCE!!!

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Hey, let's lower my damage so I can survive for that extra .0000000000001 seconds

dusky bolt
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@frosty rock stop trolling. sub25 speedrunner says oxidizer is the fastest. Insert Nerd Rage here

frosty rock
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oh my gosh lol, you're too much

dusky bolt
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Not as much as you trying to exploit a sub25 speedrunner

frosty rock
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You must eat a lot of fish

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cuz you been fishin for a hot minute LOL

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Not gettin any bites tho, must've found a different discord to troll in

dusky bolt
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Maybe the troll is trying to google on how to comeback from a fail flex.

frosty rock
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I forgot that I flexed earlier, shame on me...

dusky bolt
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If I were him, maybe I would try flexing IrOn HoRsE dIsCoVeRy RaId SpEeDrUn (WoRlDs FaStEsT).

frosty rock
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Oh, you mean the raid that gets rid of practically every mechanic?

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Can we talk about that for a minute?

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Discovery is actually a big troll in itself. Doesn't do what it's meant to do, which is teach players the mechanics. They also lower the enemy health significantly. What's the point??

dusky bolt
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To give other players an opportunity to try the raid.

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"other"

frosty rock
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It also gives other to say the raid is a joke when 50% of LFG raids still can't get through it without losing 1 or 2 people in the process

dusky bolt
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@frosty rock LFG isn't a joke. LFN is. 🤣

frosty rock
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...

dense egret
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Anyone tried hunters fury in the raids yet

late seal
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its good on some encounters and some not so good.

agile jungle
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I have a near maxed Future Initiative build but want to get the backpack and chestpiece from Iron Horse, how do I convince a group to join a raid?

muted horizon
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@unique shoal the shield glitch at her door after every missile strike is an exploit - they didnt intend for her to stand in the spot, without moving while a person with a shield holds her at the door - you and i both know that - with that said, that's not "holding aggro", that's bugging her walking path out with a bulwark and sticky explosives

unique shoal
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Tomato tomato

muted horizon
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@unique shoal GG - sidenote, is that pic of karen angle/jarrett?

unique shoal
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Dunno lol

muted horizon
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lol

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good talk. necessary raid discussions

unique shoal
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I just typed "generic hot girl" in google

muted horizon
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pro. "hot girl default photo for catfishing online games" *check

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love it

unique shoal
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Will do

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There's alot of things devs dont really intend, like skipping phase 2 and 3 on boss 4 but teams do and expect us to take their speedrun times seriously

muted horizon
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hey, there's a wall somewhere in the game that's very important - it posts that shit\

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and ppl dont know where it is

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but it's there/

unique shoal
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😜

vagrant wing
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As long as the cannon shell is within the AOE circle of the RPG shot, it'll still be damaged
@glossy blaze You can also shoot the right hand side of the cart with the cannon (the side the bullet spawn on) and do dmg. Even if the bullet is outside the rocket AOE

muted kettle
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What exactly is the build set for the 7:1 strat on wessel for the solo person

unique shoal
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@muted kettle nothing, 7 guys just need to kill rico fast. 1 guy in our teams is usually healer so he just stays alive until the 7 guys kill their boss

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i think its probably the safest strat for a LFG group

muted horizon
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piggy banking the answer - the dude on the A side (the 1 guy) can use a sader shield to stay alive, as with purple gas, shields basically become invulnerable along with the boss taking dmg - as long as shield takes the hits from machine gun (and not nade) u can have a full red (or tank or healer to be safe as Pink said) to be on the purple side... now if the stacks get to 20 before orange dies, you know it's a raid dps issue at that point

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it's when the plane goes up (when B side guy dies) and there's the boss and dizzy (i believe is A side guy name) are both active, is when you should have a healer or tank in the 8 players regardless to take some of the threat from both bosses if they can, so that next orange phase, dizzy can be burned down

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side note, cause i know Pink loves the exploits/short cuts on fights - if you have threat on the bosses (eye on you), there's a sweet spot in the B side corner closest to back of plane, against the wall and plane side... basically if you tuck yourself into that corner with a shield, and have threat, the nades wont hit you, and the bosses aoe /walking path wont hit you when they constantly use melee

tender hollow
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Lol in IH for first timers tell them to try and kill morzova when she kills “Z”
Lol 😂

muted kettle
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@muted horizon @unique shoal appreciate the clarification

unique shoal
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glitches and exploits are all the rage in todays speedruns. Teams can't do it without them (except HFR clan).

muted horizon
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Lol this friggin guy ^^

iron lake
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question about the 2nd boss fight weasel in DH... correct me if i'm wrong but when I got carried. 1 guy went to A and the rest to B. jumped down, activated the panel, healer drops hive, 7 people dpsing boss and then the whole area opens up and do the same thing... is that correct?

vagrant wing
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wym is that correct? correct for what?

iron lake
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the strat

vagrant wing
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Yes.

iron lake
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im assuming the solo guy at A will be a tank and 1 dedicated healer at B?

warm wren
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Yeah, thats how we've been doing the fight since the strat was found.

iron lake
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just trying to understand what happened

warm wren
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Exactly.

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One dude at A is a tank, and their job is to stay alive until one of the guys at B is dead.

iron lake
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noted

vagrant wing
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Heeroyuy - it's a bad practice imo (even tho it seems easy) for couple reasons:

  1. it'll take longer to end the encounter
  2. You have to deal with 2 bosses at the same time during a purple phase
  3. even tho it's a very very small chace and probably never happened they might bring back the dmg at full stacks (of the gas) and you might have some problems

it is simpler tho i'll give you that

warm wren
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The reason many LFGs do it is because its simpler.

iron lake
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👍 the videos i've seen are 4 on each side so that's why I wanted to know what happened when I got in there. looks like its the strat the everyone is using in here for that encounter.

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thanks for the info @warm wren @vagrant wing

unique shoal
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@iron lake when we took you through DH we did healer (me) on A. If you have enough dps you can kill weasel and dizzy in one phase. So kill rico first, stay alive until you get your damage back then kill the other 2 bosses in one go. Most groups will take 3 phases to kill all 3 bosses though. I feel tank and healer is a complete waste, have one or the other. But atleast healer is not selfish (25% extra damage per person potentially) were as tank is useless imo. But whatever works works I guess.

crisp merlin
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What’s the best strat for Lucy and Buddy? And by best I mean safest/most consistent

uncut crypt
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The firing line

tender hollow
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To avoid electricity damage say in a tunnel, does the booster hive person need to be tier 6 or overcharged?

iron lake
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is there a limit at boomer boss?

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like when does he destroys the turrets?

uneven garden
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Like 5 mins but I could be wrong

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5 mine one turret

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but typically with experience group you’d finish him before destroying one

glad moat
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Hi guys, i have a problem, my clan and me have done like 10 or more raids this week, raid 1 and 2, and the exotics don't appear, everyone have this problem too? Before update 11.1, exotics came out relatively frequently and now none come out

vagrant wing
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RNG?

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what are you saying exactly?

unique shoal
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lol his complaining rng is rng, basically

glad moat
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Im not talking about RNG, i mean, has anyone dropped the raid exotics since the update?

unique shoal
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well yes

vagrant wing
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Yes. On thursday

glad moat
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ok thanks👍

alpine sequoia
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Yeah, its luck based, probability wise there is a chance you could never get one and someone gets 20 of them in a month of farming

muted kettle
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Sometimes people are just unlucky

soft herald
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hey any one feel like boosting 2 noobs in iron horse we are 575 and 606 shd lvl have never been in the raid 🙂

late aspen
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pls someone help returning player make IH raid i have all builds and finish kids version IH . (100+ DH complete) only tel me what i must make and i make it

unique shoal
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@late aspen you have good comms. If yes I can send u discord link to my server we regularly take first timers. All we ask is you have a decent dps build on first run. If you wanna learn other roles no problem but one step at a time. Let me know if u interested.

winter cradle
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Is it true that the first encounter of iron horse is mostly just straight up dps without much need for comms?

cunning night
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Pretty close.

late scarab
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that is true

winter cradle
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Oh nice. How are the drops rates for raid-specific gear set pieces (specifically the future initiative chest)?

unique shoal
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Not good, best yo run in exp group so they can drop you pieces if u need.

winter cradle
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Ah alright, I'll give that a shot

unique shoal
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Farming first boss is not efficient

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You will only have chance to drop raid exclusive gear on the first clear of the week

winter cradle
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That's fine with me

vagrant wing
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I think you get 1 green drop on the first run of the week per boss or two (note one green - any green not just the chest or BP, it can be a holster knees etc)

unique shoal
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You don't wanna do entire raid? @winter cradle

winter cradle
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Yeah, that's correct. I don't have a microphone and I'm not too good with constant communication regardless

unique shoal
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Fair enough

azure fossil
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so do you not need any burn resistance as control room operator in IH? It's only to prevent the burn status animation -- how long does that last?

azure citrus
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@sinful sandal

copper lotus
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Countdown to raid key chests reset?

flint iris
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Every Tuesday when vendor resets

copper lotus
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Whose Tuesday?

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Swedish Tuesday?

flint iris
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Uh

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Est Tuesday morning?

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Around 3:30 am or so

iron lake
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gg sorry had to go. its 11pm est. got work tomorrow at7am. 😦

tender hollow
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@glad moat try also running with randoms the 1st couple of days after the reset, as it is more likely they will be doing it for the first time after the reset on the character that they are using. i.e. more people will be opening the final box, and the more chance someone will drop the exotic for someone else

vagrant wing
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so do you not need any burn resistance as control room operator in IH? It's only to prevent the burn status animation -- how long does that last?
@azure fossil as far as i remember the anomation last for 2 sec every 3 sec or so, so if you trying to interact with something you do have a small window of opportunity. Furthermore if you already interact with simething lets say the airlock the animation won't kick you out of it

azure fossil
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okay, I've done it twice with full burn resistance, with just a Hard Wired build, with haste -- I was able to do it fine with proper timing. Waiting for burn to run out kinda seems like an annoyance, so I'll probably just stick with a burn resist build for it

dapper gyro
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Burn resistance or hazpro can be handy in there to avoid being unable to interact in the wrong moment.
Healing is already strong enough, so I added some hazpro here and there to make it more relaxing in there.
Can also add some armor regen, this way you don't need your healing until you reach 70 or so stacks.

azure fossil
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Yeah that's pretty much what I do, I have a ~97% burn resist build, with Emperor's knees

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It seems to be more about deploying your hive charges at the right times rather than healing through it, you just need hive ready on switches, drone or chems otherwise

vagrant wing
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I would argue that you just need a dps upstairs who can solo it and keep the doors open, but i know most ppl struggle with it/don't know it's possible

azure fossil
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how do you prevent the glass breaking, just leave the control room when he starts getting pissy?

vagrant wing
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The glass is breaking if he's alone downstairs for a certain amount of time. Just need the tank to do short rotations when he needs to cool off/avoid the wipe thingy

azure fossil
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I assume the glass breaking and the doors shutting are meant to not be mutually exclusive, and was intended as a wipe mechanic?

vagrant wing
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Not really. It meant to make your life harder i assume

azure fossil
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I've done it about ~30 times and every time someone solos the control room as healer, would like to see it done differently tbh

vagrant wing
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If you done it here you probably knows the exp groups. Usually the ppl who leave the doors open are the exp's, as the dps upstairs has to know how it's done

restive herald
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If after breaking glass the tank goes in, is it possible to shift the aggro from control room to tank?if so how?

vagrant wing
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Just wait for one of those groups to form, and jump in i geuss, otherwise i can send youa vid or 2 if you just want to see it @azure fossil

azure fossil
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Yeah I'll search for some videos, basically every raid skips the agro mechanic of Fieser entirely

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would be more interesting as a raid to manage it properly

tender hollow
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Any one playing raid

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^ the Koreans on twitch run with only 2 dps upstairs, but I think its harder for LFGs to do this

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any one Help me for raid normal

vagrant wing
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^ the Koreans on twitch run with only 2 dps upstairs, but I think its harder for LFGs to do this
@tender hollow no need for 2. 1 is enough - you just need to know how to position yourself. They run with 2 to dps the boss on the final stage

uneven garden
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That’s RXL not Korean right ?

vagrant wing
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Nope. RXL aren't Korean. FOX are tho

uneven garden
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oh a different team

glossy blaze
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i wish i was korean 😦

tender hollow
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I'm watching 6 person korean team doing DH on twitch. They did Boomer pretty easy with a pistol build. Weasel 3-3 with 1 FI healer. Buddy and Lucy traditional way easily. Completion time 31.47 and thats getting keys as well.

unique shoal
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We did 6 man IH with keys in around 55 mins. Raids are not hard, just need everyone to pull their weight and good comms. DH 6 man in 31 mins is impressive. Gg to those guys.

tender hollow
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Any one raid

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Invite me

valid marlin
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@tender hollow Use #lfg-raid-pc this channel is for discussions

fathom mortar
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Hey all, is the IH raid hard ? I have never raided in Division before just been grinding gear and shd lvl 🙂

tawdry widget
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Not "hard" per se, it's coordination based, so it's only hard if there's no coordination/people don't know what to do.

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It's better to start with Dark Hours, then progress to Iron Horse, ideally with people you already know or met doing Dark Hours.

fathom mortar
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Okey, is Dark Hours easyer ?

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Easier

tawdry widget
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Dark Hours is more of a DPS check, there are mechanics but it's easier to carry/teach players that have never done it before.

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With that said, Youtube is full of videos explaning the bosses. Do check them before doing one, if not for anything else, you'll have a rough idea of what people are talking about when trying to explain it to you.

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That's for both Dark Hours and Iron Horse.

fathom mortar
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Oh okey, yea i have checked youtube abit. maybe read up on them more then. Is there any Shd level req.. or anything ? Gear ? and so on. Sorry for all question 🙂

crisp merlin
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No shd requirement. For builds you want at least a decent dps build with 50% rolls

iron falcon
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how do i find a raid in here?

tawdry widget
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The higher SHD, better. You'll have more bonuses. For Dark Hours builds, it's either a Rifle or AR build, crit chance/crit damage. No skill builds.

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Below this channel, there is #lfg-raid-pc. That's where the looking for group happens for raids.

fathom mortar
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Okey, i have 611 shd and Rifle and a hunters fury farm build . so i guess ill go check Youtube then for some boss fights etc. Thnx for the info all.

tawdry widget
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No Hunter's Fury. That relies on you getting close and getting the killing blow, which with other 7 players will be hard to accomplish.

fathom mortar
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nah thats for farming only 🙂

crisp merlin
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You could still use hunters fury but you would have to know what you’re doing

unique shoal
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Hunters fury is 100% usable (and good) for boss 1, 2 and 4 on IH

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For Dark hours its good on boss 1 only for add clear

lost elm
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Generally a lone wolf player with a hybrid 'Strikers/System Corruption' build, I'm generally fine up to Heroic but with 7 other people my armour on kill is likely not going to help.

Is there a channel here for Raid builds, or is there a community favored streamer/wiki I could look through?

End goal being to be a more rounded 'team-player' for the LFG here.

unique shoal
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@lost elm build a rifle dps. Use 3pc providence, 1 grupo, 1 walker and fox prayer knees pads. All red, stack into crit chance and crit damage. Chest should be focus, backpack should be either vigilance or companion (composure works aswell). Main weapon m1a classic with rifleman (boss damage), secondary m1a cqb with boomerang (add clear).

lost elm
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Noted; I'll look into the parts and see if I can't find a compromise between my playstyle and that gear 😛

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I really like my Chameleon 😦

unique shoal
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If you want to maximise your help to the team, I recommend no iffy builds (like armor regen dps hybrid). Not that you can't do it, but a if a team is struggling with dps as is, you will just be contributing to it.

lost elm
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So far my experience using the in-game MM only has been a massive lack of sustain/dps or just folks not understanding the mechanics/lack of leadership.

Your gear suggestions should help me bridge that sustain/dps issue, on my end, and I'm hoping this discords LFG will sort the other half.

Thanks, I should be in a better spot after some tweaks and gear grinding.

unique shoal
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Np, goodluck farming

fathom mortar
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Good reading 🙂 thnx

tender hollow
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Can someone teach me how to do operation darl hours my gamertag is DeathlyChicken__

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K

iron falcon
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Hey guys what build should I go for just for general really good overall damage and armor and skill stuff for raids or just general?

glacial jewel
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For DH focus on straight DPS and it also depends on your role. But for AD clearing you only really need DPS.

verbal mist
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anybody tried vile mask ,wyvern chest, 4 hw to kill drones on razor?

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I want to run survivalist instead of technician

unique shoal
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I run 4 piece hw, btsu (as an emergency incase the team needs). 1pc wyvern. Survivalist is a must surely, dont know why you'd be running technician.

verbal mist
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i did that last time and drones didnt die

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had a 13 min in lvl 30 , had lots of raids. ran it a few times (10 or so) lvl 40 but recently that same build didnt kill them

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my wyvern chest had skilled on it. i switched to gc and it killed them. then went to skilled with technician and it killed them

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what talent you running on chest?

unique shoal
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Why wouldn't run gc? Survivalist atleast you can help open the grate. Technician does nothing for the team. I run gc ofcourse.

verbal mist
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hmm ? maybe my haste isnt up to par then. Because i find with gc im not getting the reset in time. even procing the hw reset with hive

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tried dropping it and panic sets in lol no reset

unique shoal
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10 second cool down, you should always have your emp before drones, they come out a little longer than 10 secs i believe.

verbal mist
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hmm weird. yeah first wave I shoot grate then pulse, then second wave sometimes its not there

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never had this issue before. could eb the damn thing glitched

unique shoal
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Shoot the grate emp, IMMEDIATELY drop the hive, your first emp back. Then wait 10 secs drop hive. Second emp back

verbal mist
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i run up to razor

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literally stand next to grate

unique shoal
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Yes thats fine

verbal mist
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maybe my rythym off

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ill try again tonight

unique shoal
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It 100% is a rhythm thing, I sometimes forget to drop my hive so your not alone lol

late seal
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yea im guilty too

verbal mist
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lots of bumper action on xbox

unique shoal
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I use xbox controller always on pc on this game, shouldn't be an issue lol.

vagrant wing
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@verbal mist skill dmg % to one shot them (at tier 6) is above 90 without any talent OR ~80 with a talent

flint iris
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For some reason I can kill them with 82%

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I have skilled on chest too

verbal mist
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That’s crazy @flint iris

flint iris
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Yeah, like that think I said here a couple weeks ago

verbal mist
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I can’t kill them with survivalist and skilled chest

flint iris
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I did dark hours last weekend and it’s still happening

verbal mist
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What special you run ?

flint iris
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Crossbow

verbal mist
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Weird

flint iris
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Ikr

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Game is just wack sometimes

verbal mist
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Maybe a demo in your group ?

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Doesn’t this give you some damage to out of cover enemy’s ?

flint iris
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Possibly

verbal mist
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So weird

flint iris
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We tried both drone killers in the same group

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So it couldn’t have been that, could it?

verbal mist
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We are gonna start running dh again . We’re running out of things to do so thought it would be fun

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Wait what ? You have two drone killers ?

flint iris
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We were testing mine and his

verbal mist
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Ahh I see .

flint iris
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Different Razorback “encounters”

verbal mist
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I still think vile with skilled chest no issues . Haven’t tried it but you loose the btsu . I agree though if my rhythm got better I could run gc

flint iris
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Gc for sure guarentees drone kills

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But just gotta time the hw right at that point

verbal mist
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I know . I panic sometimes especially trying to speed

flint iris
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When I do dh raids, I always try to volunteer as drone killer so I can’t be blamed if we wipe because our dps is doodoo

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Kinda a dick move but I mean.. no one else in my usual group has drone killer so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

verbal mist
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Lol I’m the skill player of our clan so they lean on me to kill drones .

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Plus nobody ever wants to and it’s a bit easy

flint iris
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Also ravenous on Razorback is sweet

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I always use that now as my secondary with a preservation ar

humble solar
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I use technician and chest is overwatch for my jammer

flint iris
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Before, when I used emelines guard, I did 350k on weakpoints without any reds

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All thanks to blue stacks on rav

humble solar
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I never knew rb weakpoints were armor plates. Today was the firat day i did the rav trick. Amazing

flint iris
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Right?

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The numbers I can hit is insane

warm wren
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does rav stack primers on RB?

flint iris
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Yes

warm wren
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Huh. Didnt realize.

humble solar
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Yes, easy to hit 13mil per shot with an m1a

flint iris
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I really need to try with an Ar on full dps

humble solar
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Also helps the lack of dps from the jammer

flint iris
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2.4 million on a chunga per shot with the first half of measured mk16

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Imagine what that could do to weakpoints

humble solar
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I took down the left wing woth 15 shots from my m1a

true barn
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are there any players that actually run lvl 30 groups

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cause that might be fun to see in late 2020

uneven garden
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Proc the rav blue and switch to M1A? @humble solar

humble solar
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Yes

uneven garden
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I’ll try that thx I been straight rav. What’s your chest talent ?

humble solar
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Pgc

uneven garden
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aight. Then you can solo weakpoont either way

humble solar
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Oh yea. Depending if your rolls are good enough

uneven garden
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yeah that right. Front side is tricky for me as I miss lot shot switching shoulders

humble solar
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Lol yea, 5 or 6 shots from left, swap to right and fire 1 shot and swap to m1a. Ranger is my prefered talent but boomerang is ok

ruby swan
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how are you hitting 13m per M1A shot

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@humble solar

humble solar
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Its like 12.7. Rounding up. Gotta have the right buffs bud

fiery fox
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How do I ask for a raid members that Already own ravy to possibly drop it? For a proper lfg post instead of me having to type a fucking sentence whenever I make a listing

humble solar
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@fiery fox "lfg, still need the rav"

lament tartan
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I need rev also

fiery fox
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Ty

copper lotus
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After this maintenance, raid key chests will be reset, right?

warm wren
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Yup, weekly reset.

copper lotus
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Will Regulus parts finally drop?

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Provided that the project is active.

warm wren
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If you have the projects done, yes!

copper lotus
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Wonderful

remote thunder
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iv done the Raisd 15x and all garbage no luck 🤣

vagrant wing
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Why's ppl complains about RNG? it's the core aspect of looter shooter. Took me over 40 raids to get the EB on year one (2 chars). You just need to have some patience. It is really annoying to complete the raid over and over and don't get what you wished for - i'll give you that - but that's how the game structured so...

muted horizon
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had a dude bitching yesterday on a pug raid from this discord: "dude I want EB sooo badd... I ran this past three weeks and it hasn't dropppeddddd" - asked him on how many toons/runs total: "I only got one toon, and rand like 3 times a reset"..

... no fucking sympathy coming from a dude (me) that has 4 toons. cleared 4 times a week for the first year and only got 2-3 total (gave 1 to a clanmate)...

ruby swan
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@humble solar yeah i understand. whats the build?

humble solar
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Hollowman with wpn core attribute and chd, then just normal 3pc prov with PGC and vigilance, fox prayers and 1pc groupo or WH. Do the rav trick and use m1a, should hit minimum 10-11 mil depending on rolls and what not. @ruby swan

flint iris
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That’s gonna be a hard hollow man to get

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Mine only has handling rn, but I’ll take the red at least

lost elm
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Just noting that if you scroll up long enough you'll see a conversation where someone mentioned I should use a 3pc provi with fox prayers, WH and Groupo

I think RNGJesus smiled upon me because I got all the right stats on all the right pieces pretty quickly, and am now just missing the M1A's with boomerang and rifleman
But even with a substandard MK47 and a chameleon, I'm at least 100% more effective in group activities than I was with my 'Strikers/System corruption' build.

The night and day difference was striking. (and kind of lame, due in part to my absolute love of strikers) but at least I'm effective.

ruby swan
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Care to explain the rav trick? not heard of it before.

muted horizon
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Use primers to weaken armor plating then switch weapon and shoot with m1a ... read the ravenous talent to confirm.

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Defensive primers to 10 stack = 200% damage to armor plating for 5 seconds - switch to m1a smd fire a clip... switch back smd rinse repeat

humble solar
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That’s gonna be a hard hollow man to get
@flint iris very hard indeed. Took so long to find one with any chd. Mines missing about 5chd, but its better than nothing.

flint iris
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Wow that’s pretty nice then

humble solar
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Wondering if 3 WH, fox prayers, ceska/grupo and hollowman would be better for that extra health dmg

flint iris
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Might not be worth it at that point

humble solar
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Could still get around 170ish chd with some dta and dth. Also with others wearing the coyotes, easy 60/190 with all proccs. The dth is really good for the heavys on boss 4 and of course RB in dh. Just a thought

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Or is/when there a point of diminishing returns with dth?

flint iris
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This is just me, but I don’t think it’s worth it using 3 pc walker just for the 5% health damage

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When it comes to the chungas, it hardly makes a difference

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I could even kill one from full health to 0 with my drone killer

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A d r o n e k I l e r

humble solar
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Maybe not then

uncut crypt
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3 piece providence. 1 ceska, 1 grupa, fox prayer and contractor gloves for max dps . Talents are obliterate and bloodsucker/vigilance/composure

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Thats my take

flint iris
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Bloodsucker won’t be max dps

humble solar
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@uncut crypt pgc and focus woth vigilance. Always the highest combo and ceska can be replaced by contractors, WH, or coyotes to give better dps

flint iris
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Highest dps with vigilance and focus imo

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The coyotes will be nice

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Automatically lowers it down to ~50 (assuming you were at 60 or more before)

humble solar
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I usually stay around 40-45 minimum cuz of the coyotes. And companion would be better than composure for most people.

flint iris
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40-45 for me is a lil low, but I 100% agree with the second part

humble solar
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Yea i dont face tank. I usually use m1a with ranger so i play kinda far which gives that extra chc. But that just my style

flint iris
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Ah that would make sense then

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I’m still tryna get a good boomerang cm1a

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Mine has in sync rn

humble solar
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Ive crafted at least a few dozen to get 2 decent ones. 1 with boomerang and the other rifleman

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Such a pain

humble solar
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@flint iris just tried the 3 WH idea and you were right, trash. Even tried with my GR m1a with health dmg on it and dtoc.

flint iris
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Welp

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At least we know now

solid fern
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can i replay ride and get the same keys?

uncut crypt
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@uncut crypt pgc and focus woth vigilance. Always the highest combo and ceska can be replaced by contractors, WH, or coyotes to give better dps
@humble solar True, but PGC is i feel is subjective, not many would know how to survive using PGC, so usually obliterate or unbreakable for comfort

humble solar
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@uncut crypt oh well you said for max dps but yea survivability and playstyle effects what makes a person good

uncut crypt
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❤️

gaunt grail
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Perfect glass cannon is the best option for soilid dps

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3 piece prov 2 sokolov 1 groupo mk16 tactical ump is my build

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Firewall spec and shield with revive hive I hit for 1.7 mil to the body with my ump

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And 1.3 on razorback with my mk16

uncut crypt
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used to enjoy PGC, but the new obliterate is my new bae, just less 5% damage but i get to survive a little longer

gaunt grail
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@uncut crypt it doesnt matter what you have on the ads in dark hours will take you out no matter what chest you use pgc or not so why not get the extra damage but I only have 350 dark hours completions number 29 on leaderboards and have a 17 min 24 sec run tu11.1 but what do i know??

crisp merlin
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All red stats are diminishing returns

uncut crypt
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lul, you are flexing for the wrong reasons boy

gaunt grail
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If you are on xbox and want a 30 min or less completion im fixing to run one in about 5 mins whos in

humble solar
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@gaunt grail 17mins? Damn my 8min pre wony and 11min tu11 must mean im smarter then right??

crisp merlin
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But do you have 350 completions

humble solar
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I had over 800 in yr 1. Yr 2 maybe 150 or 200

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Did about a dozen or so raid every night back then just consistent runs at like 12 mins before the speed group got on

crisp merlin
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A dozen raids every night thats quite the motivation

gaunt grail
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@crisp merlin no its 352

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@crisp merlin I sent you a pic

humble solar
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Clears mean nothing even in dh raid. There was a time when you could farm RB checkpoint like you can now. Eventually they fixed that but looks like they dont care about fixing leaderboards anymore

gaunt grail
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@humble solar join me for this run we run fresh every day we havr 20 people on the top 50 in PRD

humble solar
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Ps4 bro

gaunt grail
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@humble solar 20 min runs

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[PRD] The Division 2 - Dark Hours (TU11.1) Speed Run - 17:25

humble solar
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Ill watch it real quick. Brb

gaunt grail
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Need proof? There you go we stream every night my friend

late seal
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Raids stats in this game are scoffed now anyways with leader boards broken, exploits that had happened, final boss check point clears.

humble solar
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Didnt ask for proof but flaunting your stats to others in a way that your smarter is whatever i mean i have faster times than @flint iris and he knows plenty more than i do. Called me out sayin my idea earlier was stupid lol and i tried it and he was right and i let him know. But by your thinking, you're smarter then exalted cuz of your clears and times so then because my stats are better im smarter than you? No lol

gaunt grail
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My stats are 220 dam 60 chance full god rolled gear

uncut crypt
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again, flaunting/flexing for the wrong reasons

gaunt grail
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We do this for real

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If youhave xbox ill teach you some things I'm on now 6 PRD online now have room for 2

humble solar
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220chd. You running sokolov?

late seal
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Clears dont mean crap if you done the same roll with the same groups of people. I seen people in IH who have over 100 clears and never came out of a dps roll

gaunt grail
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Yes and we have a 39 min ih run 122 clears on that as well

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Want a video for that too??

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I have plenty

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:)

humble solar
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39 isnt speedrunning tho, buts its a good time. And sokolov is kinda trash for raid builds MOST OF THE TIME, not always. Losing dmg even if your stats page says higher numbers

late seal
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I saw a 26min speed run of IH earlier shit was nutty

gaunt grail
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Yea we aint that good

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We are good but not that good

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And I run smg

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So sokolov is worth it my ump is good

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Mk16 is for weakpoints smh firewall and shield i facetank the ads with pgc

uncut crypt
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Didnt ask for proof but flaunting your stats to others in a way that your smarter is whatever i mean i have faster times than @flint iris and he knows plenty more than i do. Called me out sayin my idea earlier was stupid lol and i tried it and he was right and i let him know. But by your thinking, you're smarter then exalted cuz of your clears and times so then because my stats are better im smarter than you? No lol
@humble solar there is always that one person who is that Hubris

late seal
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But I say run what you want to run, as a normal pug group PGC isn't that good for non experienced people. If you got a group of people doing there jobs perfectly is when I say PGC is fine.

uncut crypt
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But I say run what you want to run, as a normal pug group PGC isn't that good for non experienced people. If you got a group of people doing there jobs perfectly is when I say PGC is fine.
@late seal Preach

late seal
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I'm not worried about my add clearing im worried about little billys corner who doesn't stay where he is supposed too and his adds get out of control . i get lit up from behind bec he is struggling

humble solar
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@gaunt grail watched the vid, tarmac couldve been 30secs better with a skill build, boomer was ok, you shouod never ever fast travel to weasel cuz its wastes too much time, weasel fight couldve been 1/2 as much time, baggage was too bad, BL was a whole 1.37mins so 1min faster easy, RB was a good clean 4phase. Not bad overall but could definitely get under 15 with better builds/positions/practice.

uncut crypt
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I'm not worried about my add clearing im worried about little billys corner who doesn't stay where he is supposed and his adds get out of control If get lit up from behind bec he is struggling
@late seal Usually clearing Ads would be a breeze with your most comfortable build you have, communication is key, like if you gonna run a different build into raids, inform your team bout it, and they'll understand and help out when areas are too hard to be controlled instead of going in quiet and not saying shit and then friction will happen (not all the time, but tends to happen)

late seal
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I dont have many clears myself, only about 50 dh and 40ish IH clears but for example I would say 50% of the time on boomer no one stays put in a location. Idk how many times I seen the guy who suppose to watch donut shack and 40 and he somehow dead on 43,44 doors

humble solar
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I usually kick ppl who dont stay in their positions. If its for speed, casual idgaf lol as long as its with knowledgable people.

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When i did 40 door, used tamperproof with sniper turret and shield with my rock and roll and face tanked the door. Never even saw boomer or anyone but my door and 3 adds that came out

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Never moved or panned my screen even if i was getting shot from behind. Cuz playing in a specific group, you get a feel for each other a trust they will do their job so no reason to move.

late seal
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Thats what im saying in a normal pug group i wouldnt run PGC bec I cant trust people half the time to do there jobs correctly.

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In a normal group of people you usually run with PGC is fine because you how they play etc

humble solar
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Oh yea normal group, i dont trust shit lol. But i dont alter my builds for them. If i die, i die

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But yea logical thinking bud 👍

late seal
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Yesterday I had to pick up the same dude 6 times who had PGC on bec he sucked at dodging rockets (people don't understand how to run in a straight line) and he was getting grenades across the map bec another guy couldn't clear his adds quick enough

uneven garden
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I figure running GC/PGC in a group that doesn’t have as strong DPS you’ll always get the aggro and go down

gaunt grail
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@humble solar. Lets see your videos of a 37 second bl

uncut crypt
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and he is back

humble solar
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Lol

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Not everyone videos runs but dont trust me, trust me idc. Just some tips and advice where you could speed things up

vagrant wing
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But you don't have 352 clears. ergo -> there're not tips

humble solar
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😂

uncut crypt
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but he did complete in 11 mins no?

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or 8*

humble solar
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Pretty sure he was making a joke

uncut crypt
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i know, so was i xD

gaunt grail
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@vagrant wing I sent u a pic of my clears

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I do have 354 now

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I ran it in 8 mins in tu10

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Btsu over charge days cant do it now

vagrant wing
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Again - so?

gaunt grail
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But you don't have 352 clears. ergo -> there're not tips you said i didnt have 352 now u see I do

humble solar
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He meant me giving the tips

gaunt grail
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@humble solar I dont need your tips run a raid with me and lead it

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Lets see what our about

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Your

humble solar
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Im ps4 bud not xbox

gaunt grail
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Well I can run anyone in here right now sub 20 raid lets go

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Any one person I can get my group to carry 1 person sub 20 right now. I am about what I say you 0% proof of anything you talk

regal mortar
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@gaunt grail honestly buddy, i don't think anybody cares how many clears you have

crisp merlin
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Jeez still flexing stats in here div2timeout

tender hollow
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Hello im new :)

crisp merlin
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Welcome new. Hope you enjoy your stay

amber blaze
#

What goes on in this channel?

crisp merlin
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Discussion of raids, supposedly

sage carbon
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352 clears holy

humble solar
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Usually raid talks, strats on bosses ect.

tender hollow
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@crisp merlin how long doesnt this game také to finish or its it something like destiny 2 where the game really start after u Beat campain?

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Does*

crisp merlin
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Uhhh yes. The story mode takes like 4-6 hrs then you grind for loot

tender hollow
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Ok i like looter shooters thanks

crisp merlin
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Make cool builds, perfect them. Do legendary missions and raid or summit or pvp.

vagrant wing
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What goes on in this channel?
@amber blaze don't. He'll DM you too

glossy blaze
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why are ppl flexing

amber blaze
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Cos they went to the gym?

crisp merlin
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Flexing is a form of validation. Gives you a sense of accomplishment which is fine and great

amber blaze
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Who is validating what?

gaunt grail
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PRD help people we teach we speed run and we help people get ebs I wasnt flexing I was just saying in the raid Dark Hours PGC on console is the way to go and @humble solar wanted to argue saying he knew more he doesnt all I was saying ive ran that raid 352 times and glass cannon was tbe way to go. It is everyone on console will tell you that its not new @humble solar has no idea what he is talking about I wasnt flexing

humble solar
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Ehh whatever dude

gaunt grail
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Anyone running buddy and Lucy in 37 secs was cheesing them with btsu gloves In that video we killed them in 1.37 and thats fast as he'll for tu11.1

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Btsu cheese left in tu10

humble solar
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My group never did overcharge anyways soooo

crisp merlin
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What’s the cheese and is it still doable?

gaunt grail
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People used to use btsu pulse and overcharge and you could burn both dogs in 20 30 seconds

humble solar
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It was overcharge pulse on BL for 5sec boss fight and no you cant

amber blaze
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37 seconds buddy and Lucy? Oh my that must have been an incredible feeling. Takes over 5 mins now

crisp merlin
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But overcharge pulse is still in game isn’t it

gaunt grail
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@amber blaze we do it In less than 2

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Watch the video

humble solar
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Back then you could stack it for massive amounts of dmg

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Now you cant stack

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But speedrun groups never used thw overcharge on BL back then anyways

gaunt grail
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If you watch how we do it you will learn the easy way if you need help dm me and I will help u

glossy blaze
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wow amazing

amber blaze
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Is that the fastest buddy and Lucy, your team must hold some kind of Guinness world record

gaunt grail
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No its not other teams do it fastee

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Faster

amber blaze
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Must be chronos max users for sure

crisp merlin
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There’s 2 same players in that video kinda sus div2hmm

gaunt grail
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Its me and my wife she is nobleslilmomma

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@crisp merlin

young totem
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I'm the wife

gaunt grail
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Any more ?s

uncut crypt
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think he still searching for a validation

young totem
#

Why does it always have to be taken as a pissing contest. It would be nice if people wouldnt try to criticize and try to find something wrong in what someone else does, if their wasnt opposition then there wouldnt be a so called "validation "

gaunt grail
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@uncut crypt I can validate that our team is a superior group

uncut crypt
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k, again, no one cares, boy

gaunt grail
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💯 👍 😘

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Later guys

valid marlin
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Enough! Both of you!

unique shoal
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Sorry mum

gaunt grail
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Not quite sure who you are but can delete my msg lol

unique shoal
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I would just like to say its still possible to do DH in less than 5 mins using the black hole strat. Only some og groups are privvy to that

gaunt grail
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I'll just leave the server not like I need it

proud glen
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he really is gone huh, lol

uncut crypt
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well, he wont be missed

proud glen
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so anyways, i've never done raid or dont know what to build to prepare for a raid. anyone can show me the ropes around it?

uncut crypt
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DH is pretty straight forward, if you have a strong dps, willing to listen to others and be versatile, you'll do fine. i'd nominate @amber blaze to help you out

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try to get high CHC and CHD, and perhaps high rpm AR to finish off ads fast

proud glen
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i mainly use lmgs, never really played much smg or AR. so i dont know how to build around it

uncut crypt
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3 Providence, fox prayers, contractor gloves and either ceska or groupa or Coyote for increased stats. Thats my comfort build, but others would have another better build, so it's subjective to your discretion. As the others mentioned, Vigilance and Focus are the meta (?) which i can vouch for. But i run Obliterate and BLoodsucker for balance in offense and defense. Speciality class is your discretion a well, firewall gives 10% bonus CHD

proud glen
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thanks for the recommendation! now i just need some luck on gettting decent rolled items

uncut crypt
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i mainly use lmgs, never really played much smg or AR. so i dont know how to build around it
@proud glen That is fine, LMG i go for either sleipnir or Negev. Slepnir has that perfect talent (cant rem), Negev try to go for max damage, max health damage and max out of cover damage with Steaded Hands. 100 stacks of crit and stability, and once u hit 100 stacks, it auto reloads. Gunner speciality works very well

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Again, its at your discretion and comfort.

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Another man's junk is another man's treasure as a old div 2 player i met said to me before

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thats for DPS, there are other roles like healer and tank

proud glen
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i do have a god rolled negev with 9.5% chc but the talents is meh at best, is that okay for a starter weapon?

uncut crypt
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What's the talent? can u still change it?

proud glen
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im currently using strained on it and yes i can still change it

uncut crypt
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you can go ahead and experiment, try steady hands

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150 ammo capacity (with gunner specilization) upon hitting 100 crits, gun auto reloads

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provided you have high CHC

proud glen
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i'll start building around your recommendations, thanks again!

uncut crypt
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no worries, others will give their opinions and advice, so look out for them

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i run striker mostly for DH, cause RPM and i go ratatatatata with negev and famas xD

proud glen
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i enjoyed running around with negev and bullet king, never ending shooting

uncut crypt
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once u get another god roll negev with damage out of cover, say good bye to BK

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xD

proud glen
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hopefully its soon!

uncut crypt
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still trying to get my right carbine 7 roll, IF I CAN FIND IT

midnight wing
#

can anyone tell me if there is a cap to how many IH resources i can get per week for the regulus? ie base materials

vagrant wing
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It's RNG based. I think you can get between 5-10 base materials per boss (i usually get between 8-10)

tender hollow
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I just use Bullet King as I'm lazy and you just point and click, but a FAMAS 2010 with DOOC and Fast Hands is very good

uneven garden
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BK finally found its use in IH....BH still hasn’t

zealous wren
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LFG DH

valid marlin
vagrant knoll
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my bad

zealous wren
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Ok

late seal
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Don't hurt us

uncut crypt
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avenge us

unique shoal
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@glad birch tell me more about the glass cannon facetank build?

glad birch
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ok where to start....

tender hollow
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maybe it might work with a bulkward shield?1?

glad birch
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one of the best build u can ever build into division 2 world

unique shoal
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@glad birch I hear that

tender hollow
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we had a dumbarse with PGC in the last raid I was in with crusader and he died 6 times at boss 3

unique shoal
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Tell me moar

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@glad birch do you have my discord toxic af?

glad birch
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the best part of this build,is the way u kill enemies

unique shoal
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Ye you do nvm

glad birch
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if u wanna xpend a long time waching from the floor ur team mates killin enemies u gonna have lot of time to smoke cigar or wank ur self so best part of game

unique shoal
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Agreed

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PGC is da best facetank

glad birch
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and the most importan thing is that u still geting xp

unique shoal
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The best afk build in the game

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Especially for raids

glad birch
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yeah!!!

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u got it bro!

unique shoal
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Need to build one now, im super jelly

glad birch
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i will show u the build no worries

smoky forge
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i wanna do C on boss 2. do i need a tank or can i just use my normal dps build

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(Iron horse)

dapper gyro
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Depends on the strat/team comp of the group you're running with.
But usually tank is on a and c is full dps and/or skill since it's the busiest area.
Though no matter what, if the group needs special roles then they usually have them covered already anyway.

humble solar
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@smoky forge alot of people run dps but with a tamperproof chest. Throw an assult turret right in front of door and it takes all agro

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Tamperproof is really good on B if you can incorporate the gunslinger and regulus into the build and one shot all 3 adds while they're shocked in the door

crisp merlin
#

are future initiative and foundry bulwark chest and backpacks craftable?

smoky tapir
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craftable after getting the blueprints from the raid projects yes

uneven garden
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I find dz build works well for ABC as mostly close range fight. It may take longer to kill the final boss tho.

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tamper proof is decent but when theres 3-4 adds coming out at the same time not enough time to kill all quick

lime shard
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anybody want to do the raid with me? cant find many people

unique shoal
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Add clear build + boss damage, optimal build -----> build a rifle dps. Use 3pc providence, 1 grupo, 1 walker and fox prayer knees pads. All red, stack into crit chance and crit damage. Chest should be focus, backpack should be either vigilance or companion (composure works aswell). Main weapon m1a classic with rifleman (boss damage), secondary m1a cqb with boomerang (add clear).

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For AR which is also good, change the walker piece to a fenris piece, use any high rate of fire (p416, famas, m4) with insync but I personally like fast hands. Ar should replace the boomerang m1a on the above build. Your boss gun should still be m1a with rifleman.

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I also use an 8x scope (30% hsd) for all my guns. Its not too extreme in the zoom department.

tender hollow
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Does PFE also apply to raid bosses? Might run max PFE on boomer and weasel cause those 2 fat asses cremate me everytime

unique shoal
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Yes but I never use any pfe mods or stack into it, never had an issue

wet light
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hi, how can i farm ironworks base material?

cunning night
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First clear of the week on each boss drop.

muted kettle
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you can only get them weekly

wet light
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damn. ok. only the first clear, not repeat runs and opening box? and is it a fixed number or RNG? im missing 51 more for my project, how long is that gonna take me?

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and, does it also drop on explore mode or just the normal one?

muted kettle
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I don't think discovery will drop materials

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you could try i guess

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the number of materials is 5 to 10

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per boss kill'

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but only per week so in your situation it might take some time

wet light
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so best case scenario i need 2 more week clears, worst case i need 3

vagrant wing
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Discovery doesn't drop base material

muted kettle
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you should be fine

humble solar
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Pwr week per character

smoky tapir
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you actually only need 40 as when you complete the project, you get the 40 back

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and the count is i believe 8-10 from teh bosses first kill

vagrant wing
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Yeah 8-10 is more likely

muted kettle
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around that number is what you get but sometime you get lower than that

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but for the most part 8 to 10

wet light
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ok, i get them back, thats wonderful. i need 11 more then

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thanks

wet light
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wait, so.. if i completed the weekly run first, can i not get the regulus parts to drop from the bosses? they only drop on a fresh run?

muted kettle
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they only drop from a fresh one yeah

smoky tapir
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they only drop on first kills of each boss of the week

muted kettle
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You have to wait for reset

wet light
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damn, ok so i do need 2 week resets more to finish it then. thats really rough

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minimum 3 weeks to get it thats kind of crazy

smoky tapir
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yup

warm wren
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not if you have 2 or 3 characters

wet light
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why? how can it be improved?

muted kettle
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yeah unless you have more than one

smoky tapir
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multiple character that share materials can get it to 1 week

wet light
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really!

muted kettle
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yeah and I could be wrong about this but I think shd level is shared between characters right?

wet light
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but i would still need 3 characters doing a first clear, though right? so i have to level up my alts ;O

warm wren
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did it on 2 characters in one week, then next week i did it one more time for some more foundry base mats, then finished the two projects, then ran it on my "main" character for the regulus parts

wet light
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thank you gentlemen

smoky tapir
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shd LEVEL is shared across the account but how the points are split are chosen on a character basis

muted kettle
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yeah but when 1000 or higher it doesn't matter

smoky tapir
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ya

muted kettle
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at least in my situation i'm fine

wet light
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what about SHD tech? do i have to farm the tech crates or will the skills be available?

muted kettle
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I think you still need to do those yeah

wet light
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ouf ;D

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specializations as, then?

muted kettle
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My secondary is only level 36 but I still need the shd tech stuff

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specializations as well

smoky tapir
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SHD tech needs to be farmed on each character along with specializations

wet light
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so in other words im not exactly going to speed run this

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nah all my skills are unlocked, thankfully. specialization is not

iron lake
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for buddy and lucy , how do we deal with the seeker mines they throw at us?

cunning night
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Shoot them as they drop out.

iron lake
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noted

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thanks

rotund flume
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@iron lake or have somone use the oxidizer it will blo wit up

iron lake
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so melt buddy then if he turns around go lucy to balance the health right?

flint iris
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The way I see people normally do it is 5 on buddy and 3 on Lucy

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Seperate rooms

meager gale
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ehhh, what my old clan used to do is all at the back, and just balance its health, someone use healer and someone use an oxidizer for the seeker mine not to explode on us

uneven garden
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That way is probably the quickest but hard to control imo. If Lucy moves behind buddy hard to balance sometimes

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1 healer 2 dps on Lucy in blue room n 1 dps stay on that box is prolly the easiest way I’ve seen. Usually can complete in less than 2 mins

tender hollow
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Buddy and lucy is the strangest. I been in groups where they wipe 4 times using 3-5, then they switch to ping pong and get it first time, and also where they wipe several times using ping pong, then they get it first time after switching to 3-5.

uneven garden
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Just got kicked @tender hollow from a discovery lol?

tender hollow
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lol. times are tough.. I only wanted to test something and got booted 🤣

uneven garden
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I saw stellar doing discovery IH yesterday....

tender hollow
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mmm maybe they are testing status effects boss 2 or 3

uneven garden
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well the loot drops appear to be same as normal 😬

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after the 1sr run of a week, drops are terrible...

tender hollow
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yeah loot is the same. I used to farm DH discovery. Also the other week I saw someone who used to always carry people every night in IH discovery, scolding people 😂

uneven garden
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Lmao !

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I find it legendaries mission drops best loots...but since summit hard to matchmake legendary missions

tender hollow
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actually DH discovery is more fun too. its crazy and double the speed

uncut crypt
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Yup, DH is best

uneven garden
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How to bring boomer to the turret if no mic?

tender hollow
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go FI healer and drop hive and all stay at the same turret -> no mic needed

uneven garden
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he got a groll M1A!

tender hollow
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omg lol

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so like imagine if your not matchmaking and got a good team. but it gets a bit boring after a while.

uneven garden
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yeah not too bad at all for farming

uncut crypt
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go for 18min speed run lul

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xD

unique shoal
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@uncut crypt whats ur fastest, 18 mins?

uncut crypt
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28 mins xD

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with pubs and flawless

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thats good enough for me

unique shoal
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nice

west spruce
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@tender hollow sorry about that earlier, someone joined the RV and we have matchmake all other players and you were last to matchmake into it. Have to free a slot there.

tender hollow
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@west spruce thats ok. was just going to test something on last boss.

crude orbit
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any good clans that would take on two members ? we are looking for a clan to clean that second raid, we got good builds, we know how to play. we just need a clan that explains the raid one time as we never did it yet

drowsy ivy
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@crude orbit pretty sure you don't actually need to be in a clan to go through with a raid, but if you can find a spot,or have a spot, i can easily run through both raids for you

zinc saffron
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@drowsy ivy he need a clan to EXPLAIN how to beat the raid instead of watching all the youtube video himself

drowsy ivy
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that's exactly what i meant, minus the clan part

crude orbit
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thanks man I'll let you know if we have a spot for you

tender hollow
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All you do is jump into a LFG in the channel below that doesn't say exp/experience required/only. Say you are new, and people will explain what you need to do. You will need a decent DPS build.

drowsy ivy
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^

gritty bear
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Need help with the raid to get the Eagle B please help 

verbal mist
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Btw rav and hollow man tears up razors weak points . We ran through four newbs last night and was amazed at the damage .

azure fossil
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Ravenous and what -- Hollow Point from OD?

verbal mist
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Hollow man mask

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Its a dz named item

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Has dth on it

azure fossil
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I always forget about DZ items

late seal
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@tender hollow im approaching you in DH carries in the leader boards

lament lily
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Someone invite me to raid

warm wren
gaunt grail
vagrant musk
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what does rv mean?

warm wren
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Raid Voice.

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Correlates to the channel you'll find the person in.

vagrant musk
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ah okay

flint iris
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test.

normal mirage
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pass.

mortal topaz
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Hello, i just finish a mission after tidal bassin, when you try cach president ellis, now i can buy DLC or i have almost mission to do ?

muted horizon
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Wrong thread mate.

mortal topaz
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oups

gaunt grail
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If any is interested in watching a a 16.14 speed run in dark hours check us out PRD we do carrys and help get ebs https://youtu.be/0IWnz6SxE6Q

flint iris
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@gaunt grail you’ve already posted this once here, you can advertise your clan in #553518146275770371

gaunt grail
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@flint iris not recruiting trying to get youtube subscribers is that not allowed??

flint iris
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No, it is not

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Read the rules

gaunt grail
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@flint iris do you want me to leave server?

flint iris
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That is completely your choice

gaunt grail
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@flint iris are you admin?

flint iris
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I am not a admin, simply a mod

gaunt grail
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@flint iris so I post a video showing strats for speedruns and I'm wrong?

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In raid discussions

flint iris
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You explicitly said that you’re try to get subscribers for your channel

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Which is, as the rules stated, not allowed

gaunt grail
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But was I wrong for posting the run twice its helpful for new players

flint iris
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Just sounds like you’re tryna get subs to me

gaunt grail
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I dont care if the sub or not but its a helpful video

warm wren
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If i was a newer player trying to learn the raids, i would have learned nothing from that video. You explained nothing, man.

flint iris
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All you did was show you speeding thru dh, which was an impressive time, but ultimately taught beginners almost nothing

gaunt grail
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And because YOU yourself learned nothing that means others might not have ?

flint iris
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You didn’t show any or explain any mechanics, just a speedrun

gaunt grail
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So is this channel raid walkthrough??

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Or discussion

flint iris
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Regardless, this is not a place for you to advertise your YouTube

gaunt grail
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It wasn't hurting anyone and it was hours between posts