#td2-raid-discussions
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I usually have a gull group or sub randos in 1 at a time and the difference 1 player can make it stupid. Makes everyone else pull a little extra weight. Even if they have the right builds, playstyle thats shit ruins the run
I've been wanting to try out this build a friend of mine helped me make but I've only been able to play discovery.
@ripe crown what is it
I'm running 4 piece hunter's fury with Chameleon and Momento
Almost a god rolled Chameleon too
Shit idk, maybe in a casual group for boss 2 if your an ads guy and maybe boss 4 for ads. When i see green gear in my raids besides future or TP for boss 4, i make them change or gtfo so not sure how viable it is. Lemme know if it does work tho, im curious. @ripe crown
I do fun raids sometimes lol, and if shit can improve my group im always down to learn from others
In the firing range I've racked up to almost 10mil DPS
@humble solar Ive run HF for boss 2 and boss 4 in IH for my last, idk, like 5 or 6 runs? they all went smoother than my previous slew of runs. Still run a rifle build for boss 1 and 3, though.
Also, Bold of you to not want a FI healer at all, man.
TP in boss 4?
Lol future and tp were exceptions, but if it worked well im down to give it a try. And @ripe crown stacking up high dps in the range is easy. Can do that with any weapon on almost any crit build
what's TP?
@late scarab true patriot
which role is true patriot doing? the stagger tank or the key tank maybe?
Tank. My team skips key phases so for 4th phase healer staggers
does your healer still use a chem launcher?
Idk, i told her the drop hive at auto turret and watch boss. If we need heals, we run 5ft to the hive
The ad guys stay in the back btw, no one is up on the doors
I see
But yea 4pcTP with backpack, perf. Vanguard chest and motherly gloves. And guns are sleipnir and rav.
so he can stagger too, then
For 2nd and 3rd phase yea
Shooting range dps is inaccurate and shouldnt be used to measure builds
I can rack up 150 million if I wanted to with no reds at all
Why would you not want a FI healer? It's literally free damage and you never go down
I just got done doing DH Discovery with a group and ohhhhhh boy did it suck
whats the best way to measure dps with any build then if the range is inaccurate
Any raid boss
They're mostly dps checks anyways
Most people will be able to tell if you'll do fine based on your gear, crit chance damage, talents etc
ah
Dmg per shot
Compare it to other peoples’ shots
And how fast you can kill heroic npcs and bosses
makes sense
Aim for the head .. best advise you can get 😎
My raid builds mostly consists of 2 prov , contractors , foxes , groupo and coyote . I run unbreakable most of the time . Gc very strong but if your dead your doing no damage
Might wanna consider walker + ceska if you’re more of a body shot gamer
i might try readding coyotes at some point
@alpine sequoia i said future and TP were exceptions. Those are the 2 gear sets i allow. Future is FI btw
@humble solar whats the purpose of motherly love on the tp build?
Better than the forge on a tier 6 shield build
You're missing out on some cool stuff you can do with gearsets like striker and aces - but for a casual raid i guess it's ok
What's RV5?
Means Raid Voice 5
@vagrant wing strikers is nice but would rather just do the rav build if you're talking about using it for heavys on boss 4
Someone on Twitch is trying to solo IH lol
Solo IH is not going to work i think. Boss 2 Controlroom and Electric boxes?
Maybe they're using cheats. Otherwise good luck
I know he’s been on Boss 1 for like 2 hours lol
17.23 dark hours completion done hellz yea
39.43 iron horse done I feel accomplished
Well done @gaunt grail
Only took 316 dark hours completions to get 17 min time but we did PRD for the win
Those are awesome times!
lol, Alder called you a casual, Squak. I like this channel but everyone comes off as a bit egotistical here
(Squak himself was thumbing his nose to the other gearset users, as well)
#normalizegearsetusers
@vagrant wing strikers is nice but would rather just do the rav build if you're talking about using it for heavys on boss 4
@humble solar Striker is for the bullet and the turrets not the heavies. The heavies required aces HH
lol, Alder called you a casual, Squak. I like this channel but everyone comes off as a bit egotistical here
@late scarab when did i say that? Read before you call ppl out. I said that for a casual Raid no gearset is a good policy
you can split hairs if you want, but the implication is that squak is a casual raider, since that's his policy
bro, its ok, though.. everyone's elitist here
Nothing to do with elitism. Striker is for a well composed group who maybe looking to do IH fast (speedrun). Striker is good for boss 1 and 4 in a speedrun. A regular raid (also known as casual raid or lfg raid) a normal dps works better. To use striker on boss 1 and 4 takes practice and patience in the group.
I should mention that some gear sets are more than welcome. Hunter fury works VERY well in lfg raid on boss 1, 2 and 4. Bulwark or true patriot tank is good on 4. Future goes without saying is must. Striker can be used in lfg raid on boss 4 (if you know how to use properly). I wont tell people to change gear, along as they dont run tank on boss 1, or a skill build at all. Even if they are new as long as you have like a 60-80% rolls on your all red build it shows you have direction, and atleast know what the raid requires.
I have to agree with emily. I personally run gearsets because running the all high end meta build is boring. Even with strikers, negotiators, hunters fury, i never had a problem with clearing adds or dealing boss dps. all i can say is use the proper gearset for the situation.
Agreed, like if your gonna use striker use on boss 4 where u can build stacks from iron horse, not boss 2 when you haven't got much to shoot at. Same for hunters fury use it on boss 2 where you can hug the spawn doors, not boss 3 when the room is big and you're gonna be far from your adds. If you are sensible with gearsets they are both fun and viable in raid. If you get kicked for running gear sets that's not a raid u wanna be in anyway.
I still use hunters fury on boss 3 because I'm suicidal
Exactly on boss 3 i run negotiators bec its easy clearing adds with it and building the stacks is easy. boss 1 ill run strikers bec very easy to build stacks there. boss 2 is usually hunters or negotatiors depending on location im at. boss 4 can be any 3 of those sets.
and if they game ever brings back classified gear sets, things will get very very fun
@vagrant wing me and one other guy actually have gunner spec on our rav builds to take out the mortars. Ive used strikers before but each group has a preference and most speedrunners lately dont use strikers. I agree it can help speed things up, but not for us. And I've used the aces hh, always like sniping, but its mosre consistent with 2 rav builds and the TP tank flaggin him up with a sleipnir. Been real close several times to sub 30 but either bluescreens on morozova, or small mistakes that cost time here and there.
Striker build is best 😍
@humble solar out of curiosity how many memebrs need to focus down the heavy before he jumps down? Are you switching between the Ravenous and an M1A or just pure Ravenous?
Ignore the first question. Just realized you said 2 ppl
I think it's fun using a hunters fury build with lady death during boss 2 and running A side solo reading the symbols. Just gotta know it's limited for doing lots of boss damage or shooting the weakpoints.
@humble solar my group got sub25 using striker on boss 4, if we knew about skip phase could have been sub23
@vagrant wing swapping to M1A. And @unique shoal nice time
I am noob to keep the striker Stacks
@half wren use an acs or rock and roll. Take 6ish shots to get full stack. Or th 93r pistol, shoots about as fast as a vector.
@humble solar Not using striker Anymore, thank you
Standing in the tunnel with the elec field still on
And hows that possible?
Extensive healing and some use of the tactician perk
Whats striker good for on last boss?
with 3 - 4 strikers you can save between 3 - 4 rockets on each phase
hello friends
imagine saying you can get sub23 if you knew the skip on morovova. Why you still stuck at 25 min when you said you know how to skip 3d boss and do last boss in 30 seconds
@unique shoal
sub16 when?
dont wanna get banned again, not that hard to understand.
dont speedrun anymore, more fun doing lfg and toxic raids. im leaving in 29th, dont care about the time. just dont wanna get banned. the 3rd boss skip is insane and funny though
let me know when u get first
soono man soon. Just need @glossy blaze to finish with his math homework lol
cool, @ me when u get there
not talking about hfr, beat the 16 min team in first, then @ me
oh 16 is out of the picture
they are not first
Talk to me when you are sub25 then @ me
I have to go do something productive
sub16 is the real time
not sub25 yet sorry
not sub16 yet
Sub 16 is literally impossible
DH speed running even i cant get lower than 17 mins so hows IH 16 min runs possible
we pushing buttons here, realise we are messing around here
Whats the 3rd boss skip? Were you kidding at being banned for skipping?
toxic secret, paypal @polar sphinx for more info.
@polar sphinx doesnt even know. No one in iog knows the strat. IOG is dead what is this clan you were talking about when you said it's a clan secret? I some how cant post screenshots here
Imagine talking shit and everybody thinks its true
Imagine thinking sub 16 min is a real time...
@frosty rock welp, you cant fix stupid.
LOL
imagine crying over bugged leaderboards lmao
in the words of the famous @polar sphinx "why u haf to b mad, itz jus game"
@unique shoal is that why you're using a fake photoshoped photo? too much crying?
@tender hollow tonight you're gonna get it...
we're gonna see in dz 😄
Wait, who was complaining about the 16 min time?
Me
where?
All the time and everywhere
16 min time is real, nothing you can say will make me change my mind. 16 min is target, go get em.
@unique shoal You know that time has been there since like the 2nd or 3rd week of the raid being out...
I've been speed running in this game for over a year now. There were multiple glitched times on the Dark Hours leaderboards that were never fixed. I also don't recognize any of their names. Also, there's only 7 of them, that time is completely fake. There was most definitely a glitch within the game where someone disconnected and the timer reset.
So what? Surviving in the electricity in boss 4 is not intended, neither is open door before reseting the raid. Every speedrun is glitched. So number 1 is valid.
How bout fast travel before boss 3, not a glitch?
no, those are called mechanics
Yes secret mechanics
Imagine not being able to differentiate mechanics and glitches. Feelsbad.
LOL
How is reseting the raid and getting invisible door a mechanics? Lmao
What a mechanic
How is exploiting the shitty code of the game and fast traveling to SKIP a raid cutscene that shouldn't be skippable a mechanic?
What a mechanic.
You're reaching now haha
Hey glitch is glitch
Fast travel checkpoints are not a glitch, those are also a mechanic
Don't cry u can't get first
stop looking for reasons to be right when you've lost the fight, too many people do that, just own up
@unique shoal for once I aggree with you 😘
I'm not crying, never was, never did
What a fight, fighting about whos glitches are glitches and whos are "mechanics"
@tender hollow love u too
but still I'm prettier
I dont think u know what fight means much like the word mechanic
That's not nice @unique shoal
Sorry ur right
Maybe he likes easy games
Sorry everyone
Everyone has their tastes
cmon´that all u got? started to get funny in here!!! 😄
There are no raid glitches its just all mechanics. Sorry sorry
i've been laughing all day at @lucid adder 's attempt to enlighten him, thought I'd take a try assuming he doesn't know who I am and see if they would listen to not 1, but 2 speed runners that are faster hah
My mom told me there was a time where ppl couldn't update games through internet because they had like no wifi or something and back then all game bugs were just mechanics - there were no glitches
@tender hollow lmao
Glitch for you, mechanic for me
Bunch of noobs think they are "speedrunners"
Do the raid in sub 10 then talk kids
LOL
aren´t we all just glitsches in the matrix😂
People take leaderboards seriously, I can kill boss 1 with oxidiser builds faster than any of these "speedrunners" can with their dps build
I love oxidiser too @unique shoal it's got the right shape 😉 for the boss
it's a bit toxic though
Exactly with 7 oxidiser builds we can kill boss 1 in under 10 minutes. Speedrunners run noob dps builds
they're not real speedrunners then
They dont even know 3rd boss skip strat, so no, their not speedrunners. Just wannabes
yeah but skipping the boss... isn't this "mechanic" a glitch? 🙂
I don't mean it shouldn't be used... in my opinion everything that the game allows should be used
but devs think otherwise
Its a glitch until RXL or LFN use it, then it becomes a "mechanic" like 4th boss skipping phase 2 and 3. dont you know the rules yet?
Oh right, the speedrunners
DH FRESH RV8
Wrong channel @flat ridge here we discuss the intricacies of glitch and mechanics.
Ok Sorry
Nah, this is where mad speed runners come to troll
Speaking of trolling, why haven't "speedrunners" switched to oxidiser for boss 1. Its just faster, period.
Summit that bad that people started to troll, maybe that is the real end game content. Either that or wishing that cyberpunk, dying light 2, outriders is good enough to pull people away from a game where there is nothing left to do 😛
Well watchdogs legions will mean curtains for this game for me atleast. Starving for open world game.
Should hold me over till cyberpunk
Not gonna buy a game where stormzy has made a track for
@unique shoal Are you being serious about oxidizer on boss 1?
Cause we've tried all oxidizer and it wasn't very good
Oxidizer works very nicely from my experience, but it’s not for “speedrun” speedrun because of its charging time and waiting to swap loadouts for boss 2
I mean, oxidizer killed the boss when we tried it, but it didn't kill him very fast
I still think it's faster if everyone just goes DPS, have a healer overcharge, and regulus the shields
Which is why it isn’t the most optimal way for speedrun strats
Well, tbh I can’t really answer that, cause I don’t speedrun a ton
But I know for sure there’s faster ways to do it than with oxidizers
yeah, I just thought your phrasing in your previous response was implying that oxidizers were the optimal strat for speedrunners
I misread it
reading it back, I can clearly see that you were saying the opposite haha
Haha yeah, the next time we did it we tried with all dps, and that was certainly faster, not as much waiting so we can instantly switch builds and wipe for fieser
I didn’t want to say anything but geez the comments make me cringe . Dps is much faster than oxidizer . Skip boss 3 ??? You mean die after you put in the key?
Boss 3 skip was a troll
@verbal mist that's why I asked him about the oxidizer on boss 1, pretty sure he's still trolling
haha
so i did my first raid ever in div2 earlier with awesome people in here. no exotic but was fun and a little bit confused on some area with the mechanics. they let me just dps and did alright. anyway, so the last chest at the boss can be opened with 5 keys. can keys be farmed with the same character or no?
so the ironworks base materials can only drop in the raid once per week per character?
Leave to the pc guys to exploit glitches lol. Rewritting code in one tab while while playing division in the other 😂
@iron lake keys can be farmed but only from the final bosses of both DH and IH while you can get the 4 from the secret chests once a week
@late seal noted. as for the exotic drop. will that be the same? once per week per character?
but that chest will require 5 keys to open right?
yea u farm the final boss 5 times in a row and you can open the chest again
oh boy lol noted
thank you @late seal
oh by the way, where can we get the future initiative chest and backpack drops? IH raid?
yes
alot of people have the final boss CP saved on different characters, just look on the #lfg-raid-pc and ppl sometimes advertise for final boss farms
oh cool
or if you hate yourself you can run the full raid 5 times
hahaha
i might do that lmao 😄 just want to learn all the mechanics in there. first time raiding earlier with awesome group. i did learn some stuff but not the complicated ones haha 😄
thats good atleast your taking charge into learning the other mechanics, alot people with many clears only done dps rolls in IH
oh boy lol noted
@iron lake
Been there, done that. Ran 15 times after key reset on monthly basis til I finally gotten it
Dark hours, just pure dps. 1 jammer and 1 healer
More than enough. Occasionally u can skip healer for 2nd and 3rd boss if your dps is over 9000 or you have a crew you usually run very well with. Healers are always welcomed
Tardigrade and perfect vanguard used usually for 2nd boss cause of the survival duration
I see, good to know. hoping to try dark hours sometime before reset lol 😄
Look in the lfg channel. Usually many run it
I will thank you.
Again,, dps build are the norm, jammer a must for last boss. Healer and tanker are optional
How do I learn the pac man on 3rd boss in IH
question: how do they make boss checkpoints? run the whole thing with an alt account and stop at the boss?
Why?
Why?
Why?
Why?
How do people jam the 3 waves of drones at the end? Even with btsu gloves I only have enough charges for the first 2 waves
Jam, drop hive, jam again
Usually 2 waves per rotation no? Only 3rd wave upon destroying either front or back
Unless you guys lack dps
I use skilled on a wyvern chest and most of the time I don’t even have to drop the hive @alpine sequoia
Okay so that's probably it, I jam, throw hive and pop it then jam again but then more drones spawn out
So I thought I was missing something
Dont pop hive, just drop it and pick up again
With btsu's I dont have to actually pop it?
I use restoration hive.
After first jam, drop onto the ground where I am standing, then it will refresh cooldown for jam. Then pick it up
I run future initiative I think the cooldown reset is hard wired isnt it?
U use future initiative for rb drones?
Not specifically for the drones just for the bonus damage and the better healing, I just get a second jam through the exotic gloves
Not sure if that is a new method. But usually is hardwire or another method.
1st boss melting him in 5 secs is dps still the best way?
If you can kill boomer in 5 seconds I dont see why youd try any other way
If you can kill boomer in 5 seconds I dont see why youd try any other way
@alpine sequoia
You can't anymore. Max damage is 2 bars of armor
oh that dude deleted his post lol
@restive herald @tawdry widget has a simple explanation. A picture speaks a thousand words. Turn cogs until they reach 12o'clock. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/752148915540852807/755381322930847754/b.jpg
someone should make it into a web mini game 😄
oh that dude deleted his post lol
@amber blaze
Ran way with his tail tucked between his legs
Dark hours on razorback worst thing to do is ad control. Half the times people let their ads run around and kill ppl
For Williams my team does overcharge dmg to him. But sometimes taking the key upstairs takes 15 secs but shows it like 29 secs
Dark hours on razorback worst thing to do is ad control. Half the times people let their ads run around and kill ppl
@tender hollow and then the blame game happens
Razor drones have changed . I ran hw 4 piece , wyvern chest with skilled and china light knees and survivalist and doesn’t kill drones . I then tried technician and worked with skilled . It will work with gc on chest in survivalist though . I might try vile with 4 hw and wyvern chest with skilled
I use 4 piece hw with kinetic momentum (wyvern) and btsu. 1 shots drones :)
To be fair the only reason that boss fight ever falls apart is randoms dying to ads, everything else is pretty easy tbh
To be fair the only reason that boss fight ever falls apart is randoms dying to ads, everything else is pretty easy tbh
@alpine sequoia its pretty sad if two DPS cannot handle 2 yellow AI every 60 seconds. I exclude the corner with the EMP.
but even then that's literally all you have to kill, the chungus is a free kill anyways since he has no armor and he goes straight for the terminal
It should be made known if ppl dont know the key to razorback chongas by now, to shoot them in the butt - bypasses the armor completely and they die twice as fast
HFR 💋 💋 💋 ❤️ ❤️ ❤️
what is hfr
Clan of great integrity. HFR the only legit speedrun group for iron horse raid. ❤️ 💋 ❤️ 💋 ❤️ 💋 ❤️ 💋 ❤️. The rest use glitches and exploits to get their time.
sniffs I smell bait.
@normal mirage your nose is better than some other crybabies who take this game (of all games) too seriously.
whats the link to this discord??
How do players keep farming the last bosses in these raids? How can they save that last checkpoint and run it over and over?
use an alt to get the checkpoint, log back on main
Then start the raid using that alt? Leave and come back on the main each time to complete it?
yah
Rgr thanks
would like to do both raids have not done either
soooo, at the last boss in IH. lets see we have 2 tanks.. 1 tank will be taking the keys and working on the machine. the other tank will take the aggro from the boss correct?
the other tank doesnt "tank" boss - he simply follows boss to stragger using either merciless, ravenous, or concussion nade/explosive skill (stickey) - there's no threat table for the boss when she's out, she aggros randomly
Does my alt need to complete all the bosses up to the last boss to use it for farming or can I join someone else's game already at the last boss and then use that check point to farm later?
just join a boss 4 group, ask if you can get cp on an alt; login to alt go to the room before boss 4
Can you get the Hot Foot Merit on Discovery IH? We have some casual players in our clan that want some achievements.
At last boss of Iron Horse, do you have to hit the cannon shell or can you hit the cannon itself? I've seen players that hit the cannon or the train to damage the shell, but I'm afraid of doing that just in case it miss which I have also seen, can we get a confirm on where the hitbox is?
As long as the cannon shell is within the AOE circle of the RPG shot, it'll still be damaged
Hey good day next week or this weekend how can help me get bulwark and future gear from both I need chest and back pack so I can finish regulus projects
@muted horizon not true, you can keep morozova aggro for the whole fight. You can even keep her locked in on one place.
Dispensing incorrect information is not helpful.
Unless ofcourse you're trolling 😜
@normal mirage your nose is better than some other crybabies who take this game (of all games) too seriously.
@unique shoal 🙍♂️
@charred hornet Welcome to the party, this clown has been trolling in here for days 🥶
@charred hornet Welcome to the party, this clown has been trolling in here for days 🥶
@frosty rock Don't hurt his feelings. He might claim that you are trying to exploit his vulnerability. :/
Oh no!
After all, you are an exploiter.
Ah shucks, I've beaten the raid in under 23 minutes... instant exploiter
Ah shucks, I've beaten the raid in under 23 minutes... instant exploiter
@frosty rock 23 mins pfffff "Do the raid in sub 10 then talk kids"
SiXtEeN mInUtEs Is PoSsIbLe
@frosty rock stop being toxic. "sub16 is the real time"
It's possible with only 7 players too, imagine that
wow man, need that strat
Yeah man, we were wayyyy behind with a 5 hour 4 man completion, even if we did 2nd boss first try... Geez
"sub 16 is the real time", "HFR the only legit speedrun group for iron horse raid."
The stupid is strong in this one.
lol, absolute savage
@frosty rock if 8 ppl are unable to get past 1st boss what are they noobs? Lol
they're just utterly trash at the game
I mean, I was gonna give them the benefit of the doubt and say they just don't know the strat, but I think that's what a newbie is LOL
But on a real note @tender hollow Everyone just run M1A Focus Vigilance builds and you'll kill him pretty dang quick
M1A still the GOAT, Fox's and Contractor's still BIS imo
hybrid build best
HYBRID BUILDS BELONG IN THE TRASH UNLESS BEING USED FOR A VERY SPECIFIC INSTANCE!!!
Hey, let's lower my damage so I can survive for that extra .0000000000001 seconds
@frosty rock stop trolling. sub25 speedrunner says oxidizer is the fastest. Insert Nerd Rage here
oh my gosh lol, you're too much
Not as much as you trying to exploit a sub25 speedrunner
You must eat a lot of fish
cuz you been fishin for a hot minute LOL
Not gettin any bites tho, must've found a different discord to troll in
Maybe the troll is trying to google on how to comeback from a fail flex.
I forgot that I flexed earlier, shame on me...
If I were him, maybe I would try flexing IrOn HoRsE dIsCoVeRy RaId SpEeDrUn (WoRlDs FaStEsT).
Oh, you mean the raid that gets rid of practically every mechanic?
Can we talk about that for a minute?
Discovery is actually a big troll in itself. Doesn't do what it's meant to do, which is teach players the mechanics. They also lower the enemy health significantly. What's the point??
It also gives other to say the raid is a joke when 50% of LFG raids still can't get through it without losing 1 or 2 people in the process
@frosty rock LFG isn't a joke. LFN is. 🤣
...
Anyone tried hunters fury in the raids yet
its good on some encounters and some not so good.
I have a near maxed Future Initiative build but want to get the backpack and chestpiece from Iron Horse, how do I convince a group to join a raid?
@unique shoal the shield glitch at her door after every missile strike is an exploit - they didnt intend for her to stand in the spot, without moving while a person with a shield holds her at the door - you and i both know that - with that said, that's not "holding aggro", that's bugging her walking path out with a bulwark and sticky explosives
Tomato tomato
@unique shoal GG - sidenote, is that pic of karen angle/jarrett?
Dunno lol
I just typed "generic hot girl" in google
Will do
There's alot of things devs dont really intend, like skipping phase 2 and 3 on boss 4 but teams do and expect us to take their speedrun times seriously
hey, there's a wall somewhere in the game that's very important - it posts that shit\
and ppl dont know where it is
but it's there/
😜
As long as the cannon shell is within the AOE circle of the RPG shot, it'll still be damaged
@glossy blaze You can also shoot the right hand side of the cart with the cannon (the side the bullet spawn on) and do dmg. Even if the bullet is outside the rocket AOE
What exactly is the build set for the 7:1 strat on wessel for the solo person
@muted kettle nothing, 7 guys just need to kill rico fast. 1 guy in our teams is usually healer so he just stays alive until the 7 guys kill their boss
i think its probably the safest strat for a LFG group
piggy banking the answer - the dude on the A side (the 1 guy) can use a sader shield to stay alive, as with purple gas, shields basically become invulnerable along with the boss taking dmg - as long as shield takes the hits from machine gun (and not nade) u can have a full red (or tank or healer to be safe as Pink said) to be on the purple side... now if the stacks get to 20 before orange dies, you know it's a raid dps issue at that point
it's when the plane goes up (when B side guy dies) and there's the boss and dizzy (i believe is A side guy name) are both active, is when you should have a healer or tank in the 8 players regardless to take some of the threat from both bosses if they can, so that next orange phase, dizzy can be burned down
side note, cause i know Pink loves the exploits/short cuts on fights - if you have threat on the bosses (eye on you), there's a sweet spot in the B side corner closest to back of plane, against the wall and plane side... basically if you tuck yourself into that corner with a shield, and have threat, the nades wont hit you, and the bosses aoe /walking path wont hit you when they constantly use melee
Lol in IH for first timers tell them to try and kill morzova when she kills “Z”
Lol 😂
@muted horizon @unique shoal appreciate the clarification
glitches and exploits are all the rage in todays speedruns. Teams can't do it without them (except HFR clan).
Lol this friggin guy ^^
question about the 2nd boss fight weasel in DH... correct me if i'm wrong but when I got carried. 1 guy went to A and the rest to B. jumped down, activated the panel, healer drops hive, 7 people dpsing boss and then the whole area opens up and do the same thing... is that correct?
wym is that correct? correct for what?
the strat
Yes.
im assuming the solo guy at A will be a tank and 1 dedicated healer at B?
Yeah, thats how we've been doing the fight since the strat was found.
just trying to understand what happened
Exactly.
One dude at A is a tank, and their job is to stay alive until one of the guys at B is dead.
noted
Heeroyuy - it's a bad practice imo (even tho it seems easy) for couple reasons:
- it'll take longer to end the encounter
- You have to deal with 2 bosses at the same time during a purple phase
- even tho it's a very very small chace and probably never happened they might bring back the dmg at full stacks (of the gas) and you might have some problems
it is simpler tho i'll give you that
The reason many LFGs do it is because its simpler.
👍 the videos i've seen are 4 on each side so that's why I wanted to know what happened when I got in there. looks like its the strat the everyone is using in here for that encounter.
thanks for the info @warm wren @vagrant wing
@iron lake when we took you through DH we did healer (me) on A. If you have enough dps you can kill weasel and dizzy in one phase. So kill rico first, stay alive until you get your damage back then kill the other 2 bosses in one go. Most groups will take 3 phases to kill all 3 bosses though. I feel tank and healer is a complete waste, have one or the other. But atleast healer is not selfish (25% extra damage per person potentially) were as tank is useless imo. But whatever works works I guess.
What’s the best strat for Lucy and Buddy? And by best I mean safest/most consistent
The firing line
To avoid electricity damage say in a tunnel, does the booster hive person need to be tier 6 or overcharged?
Like 5 mins but I could be wrong
5 mine one turret
but typically with experience group you’d finish him before destroying one
Hi guys, i have a problem, my clan and me have done like 10 or more raids this week, raid 1 and 2, and the exotics don't appear, everyone have this problem too? Before update 11.1, exotics came out relatively frequently and now none come out
lol his complaining rng is rng, basically
Im not talking about RNG, i mean, has anyone dropped the raid exotics since the update?
well yes
Yes. On thursday
ok thanks👍
Yeah, its luck based, probability wise there is a chance you could never get one and someone gets 20 of them in a month of farming
Sometimes people are just unlucky
hey any one feel like boosting 2 noobs in iron horse we are 575 and 606 shd lvl have never been in the raid 🙂
pls someone help returning player make IH raid i have all builds and finish kids version IH . (100+ DH complete) only tel me what i must make and i make it
@late aspen you have good comms. If yes I can send u discord link to my server we regularly take first timers. All we ask is you have a decent dps build on first run. If you wanna learn other roles no problem but one step at a time. Let me know if u interested.
Is it true that the first encounter of iron horse is mostly just straight up dps without much need for comms?
Pretty close.
that is true
Oh nice. How are the drops rates for raid-specific gear set pieces (specifically the future initiative chest)?
Not good, best yo run in exp group so they can drop you pieces if u need.
Ah alright, I'll give that a shot
Farming first boss is not efficient
You will only have chance to drop raid exclusive gear on the first clear of the week
That's fine with me
I think you get 1 green drop on the first run of the week per boss or two (note one green - any green not just the chest or BP, it can be a holster knees etc)
You don't wanna do entire raid? @winter cradle
Yeah, that's correct. I don't have a microphone and I'm not too good with constant communication regardless
Fair enough
so do you not need any burn resistance as control room operator in IH? It's only to prevent the burn status animation -- how long does that last?
@sinful sandal
Countdown to raid key chests reset?
Every Tuesday when vendor resets
gg sorry had to go. its 11pm est. got work tomorrow at7am. 😦
@glad moat try also running with randoms the 1st couple of days after the reset, as it is more likely they will be doing it for the first time after the reset on the character that they are using. i.e. more people will be opening the final box, and the more chance someone will drop the exotic for someone else
so do you not need any burn resistance as control room operator in IH? It's only to prevent the burn status animation -- how long does that last?
@azure fossil as far as i remember the anomation last for 2 sec every 3 sec or so, so if you trying to interact with something you do have a small window of opportunity. Furthermore if you already interact with simething lets say the airlock the animation won't kick you out of it
okay, I've done it twice with full burn resistance, with just a Hard Wired build, with haste -- I was able to do it fine with proper timing. Waiting for burn to run out kinda seems like an annoyance, so I'll probably just stick with a burn resist build for it
Burn resistance or hazpro can be handy in there to avoid being unable to interact in the wrong moment.
Healing is already strong enough, so I added some hazpro here and there to make it more relaxing in there.
Can also add some armor regen, this way you don't need your healing until you reach 70 or so stacks.
Yeah that's pretty much what I do, I have a ~97% burn resist build, with Emperor's knees
It seems to be more about deploying your hive charges at the right times rather than healing through it, you just need hive ready on switches, drone or chems otherwise
I would argue that you just need a dps upstairs who can solo it and keep the doors open, but i know most ppl struggle with it/don't know it's possible
how do you prevent the glass breaking, just leave the control room when he starts getting pissy?
The glass is breaking if he's alone downstairs for a certain amount of time. Just need the tank to do short rotations when he needs to cool off/avoid the wipe thingy
I assume the glass breaking and the doors shutting are meant to not be mutually exclusive, and was intended as a wipe mechanic?
Not really. It meant to make your life harder i assume
I've done it about ~30 times and every time someone solos the control room as healer, would like to see it done differently tbh
If you done it here you probably knows the exp groups. Usually the ppl who leave the doors open are the exp's, as the dps upstairs has to know how it's done
If after breaking glass the tank goes in, is it possible to shift the aggro from control room to tank?if so how?
Just wait for one of those groups to form, and jump in i geuss, otherwise i can send youa vid or 2 if you just want to see it @azure fossil
Yeah I'll search for some videos, basically every raid skips the agro mechanic of Fieser entirely
would be more interesting as a raid to manage it properly
Any one playing raid
^ the Koreans on twitch run with only 2 dps upstairs, but I think its harder for LFGs to do this
any one Help me for raid normal
^ the Koreans on twitch run with only 2 dps upstairs, but I think its harder for LFGs to do this
@tender hollow no need for 2. 1 is enough - you just need to know how to position yourself. They run with 2 to dps the boss on the final stage
That’s RXL not Korean right ?
Nope. RXL aren't Korean. FOX are tho
oh a different team
i wish i was korean 😦
I'm watching 6 person korean team doing DH on twitch. They did Boomer pretty easy with a pistol build. Weasel 3-3 with 1 FI healer. Buddy and Lucy traditional way easily. Completion time 31.47 and thats getting keys as well.
We did 6 man IH with keys in around 55 mins. Raids are not hard, just need everyone to pull their weight and good comms. DH 6 man in 31 mins is impressive. Gg to those guys.
@tender hollow Use #lfg-raid-pc this channel is for discussions
Hey all, is the IH raid hard ? I have never raided in Division before just been grinding gear and shd lvl 🙂
Not "hard" per se, it's coordination based, so it's only hard if there's no coordination/people don't know what to do.
It's better to start with Dark Hours, then progress to Iron Horse, ideally with people you already know or met doing Dark Hours.
Dark Hours is more of a DPS check, there are mechanics but it's easier to carry/teach players that have never done it before.
With that said, Youtube is full of videos explaning the bosses. Do check them before doing one, if not for anything else, you'll have a rough idea of what people are talking about when trying to explain it to you.
That's for both Dark Hours and Iron Horse.
Oh okey, yea i have checked youtube abit. maybe read up on them more then. Is there any Shd level req.. or anything ? Gear ? and so on. Sorry for all question 🙂
No shd requirement. For builds you want at least a decent dps build with 50% rolls
how do i find a raid in here?
The higher SHD, better. You'll have more bonuses. For Dark Hours builds, it's either a Rifle or AR build, crit chance/crit damage. No skill builds.
Below this channel, there is #lfg-raid-pc. That's where the looking for group happens for raids.
Okey, i have 611 shd and Rifle and a hunters fury farm build . so i guess ill go check Youtube then for some boss fights etc. Thnx for the info all.
No Hunter's Fury. That relies on you getting close and getting the killing blow, which with other 7 players will be hard to accomplish.
nah thats for farming only 🙂
You could still use hunters fury but you would have to know what you’re doing
Hunters fury is 100% usable (and good) for boss 1, 2 and 4 on IH
For Dark hours its good on boss 1 only for add clear
Generally a lone wolf player with a hybrid 'Strikers/System Corruption' build, I'm generally fine up to Heroic but with 7 other people my armour on kill is likely not going to help.
Is there a channel here for Raid builds, or is there a community favored streamer/wiki I could look through?
End goal being to be a more rounded 'team-player' for the LFG here.
@lost elm build a rifle dps. Use 3pc providence, 1 grupo, 1 walker and fox prayer knees pads. All red, stack into crit chance and crit damage. Chest should be focus, backpack should be either vigilance or companion (composure works aswell). Main weapon m1a classic with rifleman (boss damage), secondary m1a cqb with boomerang (add clear).
Noted; I'll look into the parts and see if I can't find a compromise between my playstyle and that gear 😛
I really like my Chameleon 😦
If you want to maximise your help to the team, I recommend no iffy builds (like armor regen dps hybrid). Not that you can't do it, but a if a team is struggling with dps as is, you will just be contributing to it.
So far my experience using the in-game MM only has been a massive lack of sustain/dps or just folks not understanding the mechanics/lack of leadership.
Your gear suggestions should help me bridge that sustain/dps issue, on my end, and I'm hoping this discords LFG will sort the other half.
Thanks, I should be in a better spot after some tweaks and gear grinding.
Np, goodluck farming
Good reading 🙂 thnx
Can someone teach me how to do operation darl hours my gamertag is DeathlyChicken__
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Hey guys what build should I go for just for general really good overall damage and armor and skill stuff for raids or just general?
For DH focus on straight DPS and it also depends on your role. But for AD clearing you only really need DPS.
anybody tried vile mask ,wyvern chest, 4 hw to kill drones on razor?
I want to run survivalist instead of technician
I run 4 piece hw, btsu (as an emergency incase the team needs). 1pc wyvern. Survivalist is a must surely, dont know why you'd be running technician.
i did that last time and drones didnt die
had a 13 min in lvl 30 , had lots of raids. ran it a few times (10 or so) lvl 40 but recently that same build didnt kill them
my wyvern chest had skilled on it. i switched to gc and it killed them. then went to skilled with technician and it killed them
what talent you running on chest?
Why wouldn't run gc? Survivalist atleast you can help open the grate. Technician does nothing for the team. I run gc ofcourse.
hmm ? maybe my haste isnt up to par then. Because i find with gc im not getting the reset in time. even procing the hw reset with hive
tried dropping it and panic sets in lol no reset
10 second cool down, you should always have your emp before drones, they come out a little longer than 10 secs i believe.
hmm weird. yeah first wave I shoot grate then pulse, then second wave sometimes its not there
never had this issue before. could eb the damn thing glitched
Shoot the grate emp, IMMEDIATELY drop the hive, your first emp back. Then wait 10 secs drop hive. Second emp back
Yes thats fine
It 100% is a rhythm thing, I sometimes forget to drop my hive so your not alone lol
yea im guilty too
lots of bumper action on xbox
I use xbox controller always on pc on this game, shouldn't be an issue lol.
@verbal mist skill dmg % to one shot them (at tier 6) is above 90 without any talent OR ~80 with a talent
That’s crazy @flint iris
Yeah, like that think I said here a couple weeks ago
I can’t kill them with survivalist and skilled chest
I did dark hours last weekend and it’s still happening
What special you run ?
Crossbow
Weird
Maybe a demo in your group ?
Doesn’t this give you some damage to out of cover enemy’s ?
Possibly
So weird
We tried both drone killers in the same group
So it couldn’t have been that, could it?
We are gonna start running dh again . We’re running out of things to do so thought it would be fun
Wait what ? You have two drone killers ?
We were testing mine and his
Ahh I see .
Different Razorback “encounters”
I still think vile with skilled chest no issues . Haven’t tried it but you loose the btsu . I agree though if my rhythm got better I could run gc
I know . I panic sometimes especially trying to speed
When I do dh raids, I always try to volunteer as drone killer so I can’t be blamed if we wipe because our dps is doodoo
Kinda a dick move but I mean.. no one else in my usual group has drone killer so ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Lol I’m the skill player of our clan so they lean on me to kill drones .
Plus nobody ever wants to and it’s a bit easy
Also ravenous on Razorback is sweet
I always use that now as my secondary with a preservation ar
I use technician and chest is overwatch for my jammer
Before, when I used emelines guard, I did 350k on weakpoints without any reds
All thanks to blue stacks on rav
I never knew rb weakpoints were armor plates. Today was the firat day i did the rav trick. Amazing
does rav stack primers on RB?
Yes
Huh. Didnt realize.
Yes, easy to hit 13mil per shot with an m1a
I really need to try with an Ar on full dps
Also helps the lack of dps from the jammer
2.4 million on a chunga per shot with the first half of measured mk16
Imagine what that could do to weakpoints
I took down the left wing woth 15 shots from my m1a
are there any players that actually run lvl 30 groups
cause that might be fun to see in late 2020
Proc the rav blue and switch to M1A? @humble solar
Yes
I’ll try that thx I been straight rav. What’s your chest talent ?
Pgc
aight. Then you can solo weakpoont either way
Oh yea. Depending if your rolls are good enough
yeah that right. Front side is tricky for me as I miss lot shot switching shoulders
Lol yea, 5 or 6 shots from left, swap to right and fire 1 shot and swap to m1a. Ranger is my prefered talent but boomerang is ok
Its like 12.7. Rounding up. Gotta have the right buffs bud
How do I ask for a raid members that Already own ravy to possibly drop it? For a proper lfg post instead of me having to type a fucking sentence whenever I make a listing
@fiery fox "lfg, still need the rav"
I need rev also
Ty
After this maintenance, raid key chests will be reset, right?
Yup, weekly reset.
If you have the projects done, yes!
Wonderful
iv done the Raisd 15x and all garbage no luck 🤣
Why's ppl complains about RNG? it's the core aspect of looter shooter. Took me over 40 raids to get the EB on year one (2 chars). You just need to have some patience. It is really annoying to complete the raid over and over and don't get what you wished for - i'll give you that - but that's how the game structured so...
had a dude bitching yesterday on a pug raid from this discord: "dude I want EB sooo badd... I ran this past three weeks and it hasn't dropppeddddd" - asked him on how many toons/runs total: "I only got one toon, and rand like 3 times a reset"..
... no fucking sympathy coming from a dude (me) that has 4 toons. cleared 4 times a week for the first year and only got 2-3 total (gave 1 to a clanmate)...
@humble solar yeah i understand. whats the build?
Hollowman with wpn core attribute and chd, then just normal 3pc prov with PGC and vigilance, fox prayers and 1pc groupo or WH. Do the rav trick and use m1a, should hit minimum 10-11 mil depending on rolls and what not. @ruby swan
That’s gonna be a hard hollow man to get
Mine only has handling rn, but I’ll take the red at least
Just noting that if you scroll up long enough you'll see a conversation where someone mentioned I should use a 3pc provi with fox prayers, WH and Groupo
I think RNGJesus smiled upon me because I got all the right stats on all the right pieces pretty quickly, and am now just missing the M1A's with boomerang and rifleman
But even with a substandard MK47 and a chameleon, I'm at least 100% more effective in group activities than I was with my 'Strikers/System corruption' build.
The night and day difference was striking. (and kind of lame, due in part to my absolute love of strikers) but at least I'm effective.
Care to explain the rav trick? not heard of it before.
Use primers to weaken armor plating then switch weapon and shoot with m1a ... read the ravenous talent to confirm.
Defensive primers to 10 stack = 200% damage to armor plating for 5 seconds - switch to m1a smd fire a clip... switch back smd rinse repeat
That’s gonna be a hard hollow man to get
@flint iris very hard indeed. Took so long to find one with any chd. Mines missing about 5chd, but its better than nothing.
Wow that’s pretty nice then
Wondering if 3 WH, fox prayers, ceska/grupo and hollowman would be better for that extra health dmg
Might not be worth it at that point
Could still get around 170ish chd with some dta and dth. Also with others wearing the coyotes, easy 60/190 with all proccs. The dth is really good for the heavys on boss 4 and of course RB in dh. Just a thought
Or is/when there a point of diminishing returns with dth?
This is just me, but I don’t think it’s worth it using 3 pc walker just for the 5% health damage
When it comes to the chungas, it hardly makes a difference
I could even kill one from full health to 0 with my drone killer
A d r o n e k I l e r
Maybe not then
3 piece providence. 1 ceska, 1 grupa, fox prayer and contractor gloves for max dps . Talents are obliterate and bloodsucker/vigilance/composure
Thats my take
Bloodsucker won’t be max dps
@uncut crypt pgc and focus woth vigilance. Always the highest combo and ceska can be replaced by contractors, WH, or coyotes to give better dps
Highest dps with vigilance and focus imo
The coyotes will be nice
Automatically lowers it down to ~50 (assuming you were at 60 or more before)
I usually stay around 40-45 minimum cuz of the coyotes. And companion would be better than composure for most people.
40-45 for me is a lil low, but I 100% agree with the second part
Yea i dont face tank. I usually use m1a with ranger so i play kinda far which gives that extra chc. But that just my style
Ah that would make sense then
I’m still tryna get a good boomerang cm1a
Mine has in sync rn
Ive crafted at least a few dozen to get 2 decent ones. 1 with boomerang and the other rifleman
Such a pain
@flint iris just tried the 3 WH idea and you were right, trash. Even tried with my GR m1a with health dmg on it and dtoc.
can i replay ride and get the same keys?
@uncut crypt pgc and focus woth vigilance. Always the highest combo and ceska can be replaced by contractors, WH, or coyotes to give better dps
@humble solar True, but PGC is i feel is subjective, not many would know how to survive using PGC, so usually obliterate or unbreakable for comfort
@uncut crypt oh well you said for max dps but yea survivability and playstyle effects what makes a person good
❤️
Perfect glass cannon is the best option for soilid dps
3 piece prov 2 sokolov 1 groupo mk16 tactical ump is my build
Firewall spec and shield with revive hive I hit for 1.7 mil to the body with my ump
And 1.3 on razorback with my mk16
used to enjoy PGC, but the new obliterate is my new bae, just less 5% damage but i get to survive a little longer
@uncut crypt it doesnt matter what you have on the ads in dark hours will take you out no matter what chest you use pgc or not so why not get the extra damage but I only have 350 dark hours completions number 29 on leaderboards and have a 17 min 24 sec run tu11.1 but what do i know??
All red stats are diminishing returns
lul, you are flexing for the wrong reasons boy
If you are on xbox and want a 30 min or less completion im fixing to run one in about 5 mins whos in
@gaunt grail 17mins? Damn my 8min pre wony and 11min tu11 must mean im smarter then right??
But do you have 350 completions
I had over 800 in yr 1. Yr 2 maybe 150 or 200
Did about a dozen or so raid every night back then just consistent runs at like 12 mins before the speed group got on
A dozen raids every night thats quite the motivation
Clears mean nothing even in dh raid. There was a time when you could farm RB checkpoint like you can now. Eventually they fixed that but looks like they dont care about fixing leaderboards anymore
@humble solar join me for this run we run fresh every day we havr 20 people on the top 50 in PRD
Ps4 bro
@humble solar 20 min runs
[PRD] The Division 2 - Dark Hours (TU11.1) Speed Run - 17:25
Ill watch it real quick. Brb
Need proof? There you go we stream every night my friend
Raids stats in this game are scoffed now anyways with leader boards broken, exploits that had happened, final boss check point clears.
Didnt ask for proof but flaunting your stats to others in a way that your smarter is whatever i mean i have faster times than @flint iris and he knows plenty more than i do. Called me out sayin my idea earlier was stupid lol and i tried it and he was right and i let him know. But by your thinking, you're smarter then exalted cuz of your clears and times so then because my stats are better im smarter than you? No lol
My stats are 220 dam 60 chance full god rolled gear
again, flaunting/flexing for the wrong reasons
We do this for real
If youhave xbox ill teach you some things I'm on now 6 PRD online now have room for 2
220chd. You running sokolov?
Clears dont mean crap if you done the same roll with the same groups of people. I seen people in IH who have over 100 clears and never came out of a dps roll
Yes and we have a 39 min ih run 122 clears on that as well
Want a video for that too??
I have plenty
:)
39 isnt speedrunning tho, buts its a good time. And sokolov is kinda trash for raid builds MOST OF THE TIME, not always. Losing dmg even if your stats page says higher numbers
I saw a 26min speed run of IH earlier shit was nutty
Yea we aint that good
We are good but not that good
And I run smg
So sokolov is worth it my ump is good
Mk16 is for weakpoints smh firewall and shield i facetank the ads with pgc
Didnt ask for proof but flaunting your stats to others in a way that your smarter is whatever i mean i have faster times than @flint iris and he knows plenty more than i do. Called me out sayin my idea earlier was stupid lol and i tried it and he was right and i let him know. But by your thinking, you're smarter then exalted cuz of your clears and times so then because my stats are better im smarter than you? No lol
@humble solar there is always that one person who is that Hubris
But I say run what you want to run, as a normal pug group PGC isn't that good for non experienced people. If you got a group of people doing there jobs perfectly is when I say PGC is fine.
But I say run what you want to run, as a normal pug group PGC isn't that good for non experienced people. If you got a group of people doing there jobs perfectly is when I say PGC is fine.
@late seal Preach
I'm not worried about my add clearing im worried about little billys corner who doesn't stay where he is supposed too and his adds get out of control . i get lit up from behind bec he is struggling
@gaunt grail watched the vid, tarmac couldve been 30secs better with a skill build, boomer was ok, you shouod never ever fast travel to weasel cuz its wastes too much time, weasel fight couldve been 1/2 as much time, baggage was too bad, BL was a whole 1.37mins so 1min faster easy, RB was a good clean 4phase. Not bad overall but could definitely get under 15 with better builds/positions/practice.
I'm not worried about my add clearing im worried about little billys corner who doesn't stay where he is supposed and his adds get out of control If get lit up from behind bec he is struggling
@late seal Usually clearing Ads would be a breeze with your most comfortable build you have, communication is key, like if you gonna run a different build into raids, inform your team bout it, and they'll understand and help out when areas are too hard to be controlled instead of going in quiet and not saying shit and then friction will happen (not all the time, but tends to happen)
I dont have many clears myself, only about 50 dh and 40ish IH clears but for example I would say 50% of the time on boomer no one stays put in a location. Idk how many times I seen the guy who suppose to watch donut shack and 40 and he somehow dead on 43,44 doors
I usually kick ppl who dont stay in their positions. If its for speed, casual idgaf lol as long as its with knowledgable people.
When i did 40 door, used tamperproof with sniper turret and shield with my rock and roll and face tanked the door. Never even saw boomer or anyone but my door and 3 adds that came out
Never moved or panned my screen even if i was getting shot from behind. Cuz playing in a specific group, you get a feel for each other a trust they will do their job so no reason to move.
Thats what im saying in a normal pug group i wouldnt run PGC bec I cant trust people half the time to do there jobs correctly.
In a normal group of people you usually run with PGC is fine because you how they play etc
Oh yea normal group, i dont trust shit lol. But i dont alter my builds for them. If i die, i die
But yea logical thinking bud 👍
Yesterday I had to pick up the same dude 6 times who had PGC on bec he sucked at dodging rockets (people don't understand how to run in a straight line) and he was getting grenades across the map bec another guy couldn't clear his adds quick enough
I figure running GC/PGC in a group that doesn’t have as strong DPS you’ll always get the aggro and go down
@humble solar. Lets see your videos of a 37 second bl
and he is back
Lol
Not everyone videos runs but dont trust me, trust me idc. Just some tips and advice where you could speed things up
But you don't have 352 clears. ergo -> there're not tips
😂
Pretty sure he was making a joke
i know, so was i xD
@vagrant wing I sent u a pic of my clears
I do have 354 now
I ran it in 8 mins in tu10
Btsu over charge days cant do it now
Again - so?
But you don't have 352 clears. ergo -> there're not tips you said i didnt have 352 now u see I do
He meant me giving the tips
@humble solar I dont need your tips run a raid with me and lead it
Lets see what our about
Your
Im ps4 bud not xbox
Well I can run anyone in here right now sub 20 raid lets go
Any one person I can get my group to carry 1 person sub 20 right now. I am about what I say you 0% proof of anything you talk
@gaunt grail honestly buddy, i don't think anybody cares how many clears you have
Jeez still flexing stats in here 
Hello im new :)
Welcome new. Hope you enjoy your stay
What goes on in this channel?
Discussion of raids, supposedly
352 clears holy
Usually raid talks, strats on bosses ect.
@crisp merlin how long doesnt this game také to finish or its it something like destiny 2 where the game really start after u Beat campain?
Does*
Uhhh yes. The story mode takes like 4-6 hrs then you grind for loot
Ok i like looter shooters thanks
Make cool builds, perfect them. Do legendary missions and raid or summit or pvp.
What goes on in this channel?
@amber blaze don't. He'll DM you too
why are ppl flexing
Cos they went to the gym?
Flexing is a form of validation. Gives you a sense of accomplishment which is fine and great
Who is validating what?
PRD help people we teach we speed run and we help people get ebs I wasnt flexing I was just saying in the raid Dark Hours PGC on console is the way to go and @humble solar wanted to argue saying he knew more he doesnt all I was saying ive ran that raid 352 times and glass cannon was tbe way to go. It is everyone on console will tell you that its not new @humble solar has no idea what he is talking about I wasnt flexing
Ehh whatever dude
Anyone running buddy and Lucy in 37 secs was cheesing them with btsu gloves In that video we killed them in 1.37 and thats fast as he'll for tu11.1
Btsu cheese left in tu10
My group never did overcharge anyways soooo
What’s the cheese and is it still doable?
People used to use btsu pulse and overcharge and you could burn both dogs in 20 30 seconds
It was overcharge pulse on BL for 5sec boss fight and no you cant
37 seconds buddy and Lucy? Oh my that must have been an incredible feeling. Takes over 5 mins now
But overcharge pulse is still in game isn’t it
Back then you could stack it for massive amounts of dmg
Now you cant stack
But speedrun groups never used thw overcharge on BL back then anyways
If you watch how we do it you will learn the easy way if you need help dm me and I will help u
wow amazing
Is that the fastest buddy and Lucy, your team must hold some kind of Guinness world record
Must be chronos max users for sure
There’s 2 same players in that video kinda sus 
I'm the wife
Any more ?s
think he still searching for a validation
Why does it always have to be taken as a pissing contest. It would be nice if people wouldnt try to criticize and try to find something wrong in what someone else does, if their wasnt opposition then there wouldnt be a so called "validation "
@uncut crypt I can validate that our team is a superior group
k, again, no one cares, boy
Enough! Both of you!
Sorry mum
Not quite sure who you are but can delete my msg lol
I would just like to say its still possible to do DH in less than 5 mins using the black hole strat. Only some og groups are privvy to that
I'll just leave the server not like I need it
he really is gone huh, lol
well, he wont be missed
so anyways, i've never done raid or dont know what to build to prepare for a raid. anyone can show me the ropes around it?
DH is pretty straight forward, if you have a strong dps, willing to listen to others and be versatile, you'll do fine. i'd nominate @amber blaze to help you out
try to get high CHC and CHD, and perhaps high rpm AR to finish off ads fast
i mainly use lmgs, never really played much smg or AR. so i dont know how to build around it
3 Providence, fox prayers, contractor gloves and either ceska or groupa or Coyote for increased stats. Thats my comfort build, but others would have another better build, so it's subjective to your discretion. As the others mentioned, Vigilance and Focus are the meta (?) which i can vouch for. But i run Obliterate and BLoodsucker for balance in offense and defense. Speciality class is your discretion a well, firewall gives 10% bonus CHD
thanks for the recommendation! now i just need some luck on gettting decent rolled items
i mainly use lmgs, never really played much smg or AR. so i dont know how to build around it
@proud glen That is fine, LMG i go for either sleipnir or Negev. Slepnir has that perfect talent (cant rem), Negev try to go for max damage, max health damage and max out of cover damage with Steaded Hands. 100 stacks of crit and stability, and once u hit 100 stacks, it auto reloads. Gunner speciality works very well
Again, its at your discretion and comfort.
Another man's junk is another man's treasure as a old div 2 player i met said to me before
thats for DPS, there are other roles like healer and tank
i do have a god rolled negev with 9.5% chc but the talents is meh at best, is that okay for a starter weapon?
What's the talent? can u still change it?
im currently using strained on it and yes i can still change it
you can go ahead and experiment, try steady hands
150 ammo capacity (with gunner specilization) upon hitting 100 crits, gun auto reloads
provided you have high CHC
i'll start building around your recommendations, thanks again!
no worries, others will give their opinions and advice, so look out for them
i run striker mostly for DH, cause RPM and i go ratatatatata with negev and famas xD
i enjoyed running around with negev and bullet king, never ending shooting
hopefully its soon!
still trying to get my right carbine 7 roll, IF I CAN FIND IT
can anyone tell me if there is a cap to how many IH resources i can get per week for the regulus? ie base materials
It's RNG based. I think you can get between 5-10 base materials per boss (i usually get between 8-10)
I just use Bullet King as I'm lazy and you just point and click, but a FAMAS 2010 with DOOC and Fast Hands is very good
BK finally found its use in IH....BH still hasn’t
LFG DH
@vagrant knoll Use #lfg-raid-pc and @zealous wren use #578577794561474571
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@glad birch tell me more about the glass cannon facetank build?
ok where to start....
maybe it might work with a bulkward shield?1?
one of the best build u can ever build into division 2 world
@glad birch I hear that
we had a dumbarse with PGC in the last raid I was in with crusader and he died 6 times at boss 3
the best part of this build,is the way u kill enemies
Ye you do nvm
if u wanna xpend a long time waching from the floor ur team mates killin enemies u gonna have lot of time to smoke cigar or wank ur self so best part of game
and the most importan thing is that u still geting xp
Need to build one now, im super jelly
i will show u the build no worries
i wanna do C on boss 2. do i need a tank or can i just use my normal dps build
(Iron horse)
Depends on the strat/team comp of the group you're running with.
But usually tank is on a and c is full dps and/or skill since it's the busiest area.
Though no matter what, if the group needs special roles then they usually have them covered already anyway.
@smoky forge alot of people run dps but with a tamperproof chest. Throw an assult turret right in front of door and it takes all agro
Tamperproof is really good on B if you can incorporate the gunslinger and regulus into the build and one shot all 3 adds while they're shocked in the door
are future initiative and foundry bulwark chest and backpacks craftable?
craftable after getting the blueprints from the raid projects yes
I find dz build works well for ABC as mostly close range fight. It may take longer to kill the final boss tho.
tamper proof is decent but when theres 3-4 adds coming out at the same time not enough time to kill all quick
anybody want to do the raid with me? cant find many people
Add clear build + boss damage, optimal build -----> build a rifle dps. Use 3pc providence, 1 grupo, 1 walker and fox prayer knees pads. All red, stack into crit chance and crit damage. Chest should be focus, backpack should be either vigilance or companion (composure works aswell). Main weapon m1a classic with rifleman (boss damage), secondary m1a cqb with boomerang (add clear).
For AR which is also good, change the walker piece to a fenris piece, use any high rate of fire (p416, famas, m4) with insync but I personally like fast hands. Ar should replace the boomerang m1a on the above build. Your boss gun should still be m1a with rifleman.
I also use an 8x scope (30% hsd) for all my guns. Its not too extreme in the zoom department.
Does PFE also apply to raid bosses? Might run max PFE on boomer and weasel cause those 2 fat asses cremate me everytime
Yes but I never use any pfe mods or stack into it, never had an issue
hi, how can i farm ironworks base material?
First clear of the week on each boss drop.
you can only get them weekly
damn. ok. only the first clear, not repeat runs and opening box? and is it a fixed number or RNG? im missing 51 more for my project, how long is that gonna take me?
and, does it also drop on explore mode or just the normal one?
I don't think discovery will drop materials
you could try i guess
the number of materials is 5 to 10
per boss kill'
but only per week so in your situation it might take some time
so best case scenario i need 2 more week clears, worst case i need 3
Discovery doesn't drop base material
you should be fine
Pwr week per character
you actually only need 40 as when you complete the project, you get the 40 back
and the count is i believe 8-10 from teh bosses first kill
Yeah 8-10 is more likely
around that number is what you get but sometime you get lower than that
but for the most part 8 to 10
wait, so.. if i completed the weekly run first, can i not get the regulus parts to drop from the bosses? they only drop on a fresh run?
they only drop from a fresh one yeah
they only drop on first kills of each boss of the week
You have to wait for reset
damn, ok so i do need 2 week resets more to finish it then. thats really rough
minimum 3 weeks to get it thats kind of crazy
yup
not if you have 2 or 3 characters
why? how can it be improved?
yeah unless you have more than one
multiple character that share materials can get it to 1 week
really!
yeah and I could be wrong about this but I think shd level is shared between characters right?
but i would still need 3 characters doing a first clear, though right? so i have to level up my alts ;O
did it on 2 characters in one week, then next week i did it one more time for some more foundry base mats, then finished the two projects, then ran it on my "main" character for the regulus parts
thank you gentlemen
shd LEVEL is shared across the account but how the points are split are chosen on a character basis
yeah but when 1000 or higher it doesn't matter
ya
at least in my situation i'm fine
what about SHD tech? do i have to farm the tech crates or will the skills be available?
I think you still need to do those yeah
My secondary is only level 36 but I still need the shd tech stuff
specializations as well
SHD tech needs to be farmed on each character along with specializations
so in other words im not exactly going to speed run this
nah all my skills are unlocked, thankfully. specialization is not
for buddy and lucy , how do we deal with the seeker mines they throw at us?
Shoot them as they drop out.
@iron lake or have somone use the oxidizer it will blo wit up
so melt buddy then if he turns around go lucy to balance the health right?
ehhh, what my old clan used to do is all at the back, and just balance its health, someone use healer and someone use an oxidizer for the seeker mine not to explode on us
That way is probably the quickest but hard to control imo. If Lucy moves behind buddy hard to balance sometimes
1 healer 2 dps on Lucy in blue room n 1 dps stay on that box is prolly the easiest way I’ve seen. Usually can complete in less than 2 mins
Buddy and lucy is the strangest. I been in groups where they wipe 4 times using 3-5, then they switch to ping pong and get it first time, and also where they wipe several times using ping pong, then they get it first time after switching to 3-5.
Just got kicked @tender hollow from a discovery lol?
lol. times are tough.. I only wanted to test something and got booted 🤣
I saw stellar doing discovery IH yesterday....
mmm maybe they are testing status effects boss 2 or 3
well the loot drops appear to be same as normal 😬
after the 1sr run of a week, drops are terrible...
yeah loot is the same. I used to farm DH discovery. Also the other week I saw someone who used to always carry people every night in IH discovery, scolding people 😂
Lmao !
I find it legendaries mission drops best loots...but since summit hard to matchmake legendary missions
actually DH discovery is more fun too. its crazy and double the speed
Yup, DH is best
How to bring boomer to the turret if no mic?
go FI healer and drop hive and all stay at the same turret -> no mic needed
he got a groll M1A!
omg lol
so like imagine if your not matchmaking and got a good team. but it gets a bit boring after a while.
yeah not too bad at all for farming
@uncut crypt whats ur fastest, 18 mins?
nice
@tender hollow sorry about that earlier, someone joined the RV and we have matchmake all other players and you were last to matchmake into it. Have to free a slot there.
@west spruce thats ok. was just going to test something on last boss.
any good clans that would take on two members ? we are looking for a clan to clean that second raid, we got good builds, we know how to play. we just need a clan that explains the raid one time as we never did it yet
@crude orbit pretty sure you don't actually need to be in a clan to go through with a raid, but if you can find a spot,or have a spot, i can easily run through both raids for you
@drowsy ivy he need a clan to EXPLAIN how to beat the raid instead of watching all the youtube video himself
that's exactly what i meant, minus the clan part
thanks man I'll let you know if we have a spot for you
All you do is jump into a LFG in the channel below that doesn't say exp/experience required/only. Say you are new, and people will explain what you need to do. You will need a decent DPS build.
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Need help with the raid to get the Eagle B please help 
Btw rav and hollow man tears up razors weak points . We ran through four newbs last night and was amazed at the damage .
Ravenous and what -- Hollow Point from OD?
I always forget about DZ items
@tender hollow im approaching you in DH carries in the leader boards
Someone invite me to raid
Try in #lfg-raid-pc
If anyone is interested in watching a 16 minute 14 sec darks hours speed run tu11.1 check us out We Are PRD https://youtu.be/0IWnz6SxE6Q
what does rv mean?
ah okay
test.
pass.
Hello, i just finish a mission after tidal bassin, when you try cach president ellis, now i can buy DLC or i have almost mission to do ?
Wrong thread mate.
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If any is interested in watching a a 16.14 speed run in dark hours check us out PRD we do carrys and help get ebs https://youtu.be/0IWnz6SxE6Q
@gaunt grail you’ve already posted this once here, you can advertise your clan in #553518146275770371
@flint iris not recruiting trying to get youtube subscribers is that not allowed??
@flint iris do you want me to leave server?
That is completely your choice
@flint iris are you admin?
I am not a admin, simply a mod
@flint iris so I post a video showing strats for speedruns and I'm wrong?
In raid discussions
You explicitly said that you’re try to get subscribers for your channel
Which is, as the rules stated, not allowed
But was I wrong for posting the run twice its helpful for new players
Just sounds like you’re tryna get subs to me
I dont care if the sub or not but its a helpful video
If i was a newer player trying to learn the raids, i would have learned nothing from that video. You explained nothing, man.
All you did was show you speeding thru dh, which was an impressive time, but ultimately taught beginners almost nothing
And because YOU yourself learned nothing that means others might not have ?
You didn’t show any or explain any mechanics, just a speedrun
Regardless, this is not a place for you to advertise your YouTube
It wasn't hurting anyone and it was hours between posts