They just went down to shoot the guy on the B
#td2-raid-discussions
undone stratus
vagrant wing
hmmm... i never tried letting them knock the power off first so you might be right. Anyway - whatever works for your team
undone stratus
Anyway thanks for the infos and for the help👌
coral gulch
Good luck matey😀
vestal drift
So do you just hop into a free room if they advertise in the lfg channel?
or do you ask to join?
(Sorry new here)
vagrant aspen
nighty
clever acorn
anyone want in to a fresh IH run?
candid estuary
You want the #lfg-raid-pc channel
upbeat mesa
What is this stealth change to boss 2 on IH? Why does the tank take direct health dmg now when he goes in after a while? how can you prevent that??
humble solar
Be faster
tame sky
If you do the codes too slowly, carbon monoxide levels will build up and do direct health damage. The solution is to go faster.
normal mirage
direct health damage was always there for boss 2 IH. Tank was inside for too long. Open one of the doors for the tank to clear the fire stacks and then send back in
molten steppe
hmmm... i never tried letting them knock the power off first so you might be right. Anyway - whatever works for your team
@vagrant wing they fix it and now 1 week ago UN FIX , when boss breake glass - adds not turn power anymore
tender hollow
@vagrant wing they fix it and now 1 week ago UN FIX , when boss breake glass - adds not turn power anymore
@molten steppe maybe their stats showed teams were struggling on boss 2 and they made it not so difficult
molten steppe
yop probly 🙂
still i hate 3 boss , tu much mechanics 🙂
i have Ravenouse and Regulus and still play raids because are fun 😛 but not a 3 th boss 😄
tender hollow
I find the 2nd and 3rd boss the most interesting. I think most groups have boss 2 covered now, but with boss 3 lots of things can lead to a wipe or time running out. Its painful when the team wipes as opposed to runs out of time. If it does, it means the healer's build isn't good enough or the healer is incompetent.
timber rune
Boss 2 has two really easy jobs you can give to inexperienced people (babysit the power boxes), but boss 3 you can't just tell them to sit somewhere and let everyone else do the work.
What I really don't get is people who die to the giant lava explosions multiple times.
The first time maybe it hits you because you weren't paying attention during the explanation or didn't know what to look out for, by the fourth time you're just a moron.
celest nebula
Or panic kicks in
uneven garden
What is the min skill dmg for drones at RB? Can use BSTU?
ivory nymph
yes
tender hollow
What is the min skill dmg for drones at RB? Can use BSTU?
@uneven garden 85 if you are a technician. ~95 if you are not. maybe a bit less if there is a demolitionist in the group. BSTU can reset the skill if on cooldown and also reset everyone's revive hives
uneven garden
Ty. Some on Reddit say 45% but I doubt. With BTSU couldn’t get to 95% if use crossbow so.
tender hollow
it used to be ~45%, but Massive made it harder. i.e. a 6 red dps with PGC and some skill damage could take them all out. If there is a demolitionist in your group 95% is enough, but its not always the case. imo just run technician and if 2 people in the group dont even have a xbow just leave because its going to take 10 phases at least.
uneven garden
aight. I use 2 pc Hana for 30%, 4 pc HW for 55%, 10% from watch. But sometimes a couple drones survived IDK especially 3/4 drones waves
coral gulch
@vestal drift Yeah just look for a post for LFM (looking for men) and jump in the RV for a chat - u can just join an RV but u won't know which raid it will be for....
long violet
Its possible to make one room dedicated for first raid ?
amber blaze
No
upbeat mesa
How to do boss 2 now? how can you negate the health damage in the room?
vagrant wing
Heal?
upbeat mesa
i mean the direct health dmg you take in the boss room as a tank...? @vagrant wing
after yesterdays update
vagrant wing
You can't. Just go out and cool off
Also i'm not aware of any changes they implemented yesterday
glad shadow
Bro, Run Him In Circles For The 1st 3 Codes (50%) Step Out To Cool Off, Then Hop In And Out For The Last 2 Codes. Have A Strong Healer Solo The Control Room To Survive His Fire And Kill Everything Else 😎
upbeat mesa
@glad shadow I know! However that still dosent explain why the hell you get DIRECT HEALTH DMG in the boss room as the tank since the patch from yesterday! heal and armor dosent matter if you take direct hp dmg after a while
normal mirage
you do eventually take health damage before armour gets depleted, even if you have 10 billion armour...it's been there since day 1 of the raid...
wheat orchid
Hazard protection helps
humble solar
Be faster, do 1st 3 codes hop out on his overcharge to cooldown and be back in before he targets upstairs. Do 1 code then shoot rockets. Last code, then C ads people go in to do weakpts on crucible. Pour lava and hit water immediately after and then 2nd supernova or preferably he should be dead already
Do it quick enough heath dmg means nothing. Wont lose any armor either
@upbeat mesa also invisible lava shreds through armor really quick to where it looks like health dmg sometimes. Just listen to the loud speaker for carbon monoxide levels getting higher too.
upbeat mesa
Okay @humble solar so its just time based. Whats the sound for carbon monoxide levels getting to high? i have 45 Raids done and we never had a prob until yesterday with our tank in there dying to the health dmg from carbon monoxide thats why i am so confused
humble solar
It happens a lot if the tank stays in continually at 100 on his fire meter. Also if he goes down at 100 on the meter. His hive will pick him up but thats normally when health dmg comes into play and hes right back down. Theres a speaker every so often that says warning carbon monoxide lvls somtjing or other. Just keep fire meter down as best as possible
iron gazelle
Simple. Your tank doesn't have the right build. I stay there inside from reading 5 codes, disrupting his wipe mechanic, watering the cannon and eventually killing him. With no heals and no going out all under 4 minutes finishing boss 2.
humble solar
I mean in general, for casual players. I stay in full time as well and have him down to last 3 bars by the time group dps is needed. And yes under 4 is pretty easy to do on boss 2
paper belfry
@here someone do raid with my friend ?
low robin
flint iris
@paper belfry @/here doesn’t work, nor does @/everyone, and again, use #lfg-raid-pc
tender hollow
For boss 2 IH, unless you are doing a speed run, the tank only needs to go into the furnace room 3 times. 1st time for 1 second to trigger the codes displaying. Then you basically stand in the corner of Bay C or A but dont go in, and just look over above B and read the codes. Then when everything is done except the water, go in to trigger the wipe mechanic, and leave. Then after the wipe mechanic is done go in to the water hose. Or someone said they just go with reviver hive, die to the wipe, then go to the water hose.
vagrant wing
It's really depends on the layout of the group. What you describe is good if you have 2 ppl guarding the control room, but for some groups 1 man is more then enough, if that the layout - the tank has to be in the room to prevent the window from breaking - so the fight looks a bit different
And no - when i do it - i do it with 2 men guarding the control room, but i met some groups who play a bit different (non speedruns groups)
vagrant wing
What if he grind the raid a couple times? would you be salty then?
deft meteor
good at some way of having the emp stick that i get out of the first rougue?
cosmic sorrel
Ravenous is so bad and situational that it makes the worst rifles look better than it.
hushed kiln
@mellow lark
mellow lark
meh, same man who defended striker with his life, no surprise
versed swallow
Honestly you should be out in 3-4 mins max the tank should be disrupting the aoe attack and doesn’t have to read the codes because the control room operator can just see them with the camera feature anyway so the tank doesn’t have to be distracted with that. And the one rocket cycle you have to go through just, have the a and c guy dump them just past the air lock and the tank can fire both of them
Tank can also blast the weak points with *NSYNC gun without having to have the a or c guy waste their time with that and have an over run of adds in their way out or be late with water
If you have more than 4 total door opens 1. Tank in 2/3. collect rocket from a/c air lock 4. Dps team into b you are wasting tons of time and should wipe. Or you are going for the hot foot achievement
glad shadow
@versed swallow Ive heard about the camera trick but couldnt get to the board from the Control Room. Which angle do you use?
versed swallow
I didn’t personally do the control room but afaik they stand on top of the door control computer and angle the camera down left and it lets you see the digital sign board. I am still surprised groups have a/c guys shoot weak points. The door opening (if you have one guy moving the crucible and opening the door is a 10 second penalty per wp if you are lightening fast) plus the a guy is almost always walking back into a pile of enemy turrets when he comes back. If you have the tank toss his decoy at that part it covers the entire wp phase and the control room guy doesn’t have to move away from the crucible computer
glad shadow
Word - I have my tank shoot the weakpoints from Gate B, its just 10x easier for us to balance everything this way
sterile anchor
Any 1 down to do dark hours
long violet
waiting for dark hours
ionic frigate
looking for dark hour raid (warning. idk what im doin)
long violet
@ionic frigate raid 5
shut adder
So, we tried Fieser today...
After first boss stack, we got 2 fire each second, then 3.... -> up to 5 fire per second.
Then we got health damage as hell.
Even the healer with the broken glass got massive health damage and it was not possible to heal.
And again smth Ubi "fixed" to hell....
After we noticed the high fire count, we tried to cool down Fieser...no chance to do this again and again...
shut adder
@candid estuary we got 2 runs on tuesday. 1 run with 8 main chars, second run with 4 main and 4 toons.
all went pretty easy and finished the raid within 53 minutes.
today on our second raid day for those who weren't available on tuesday, we got those massive problems after the patch.
On tuesday it was possible to stay a long time in Fieser chamber and always got 1 fire stack/sec.
Today it was a completly desaster....
shut adder
@candid estuary after the yesterday "hotfix"
spark mortar
basically after the unscheduled maintenance from the 19th
shut adder
@hearty viper @astral rover some information about the "hotfix" for the raid? about the massive increased firetick-rate from Fieser? About the massive health damage with 100 stacks?
There are NO information anywhere.
We did multiple over multiple tries with many build combinations. Max health (65k/sek), max hazard protection, repair etc. There were no possible combination to survive and manage this boss fight. Even for the heal in the control room when the window got broken.
flint iris
@shut adder please don’t ping the ubi devs
fierce dome
@shut adder you're getting damage to health because you're too slow and there's too much carbon monoxide in the room - you need to do an extra code to clear it up
normal mirage
I just did the raid with a pub group and we had one guy solo control room. We were slow and he had 100 stacks but he wasnt dying though.
I do notice heavies don't aggro to turrets very well when guarding power box on top floor a and c for 2nd boss IH. Used to pull more aggro.
echo vector
Easiest way to deal with the ads for the power box is sweet dreams for the purple and then demo firefly for the heavy
fierce dome
the person in the control room can either spot fire coming out of the sides or that monitors become active again even though you're at 100, that's a sign you need to do another code
yeah, just deal with purple and then whatever
normal mirage
Yeah demo firefly is buggy. Had it explode two times after throwing it at the heavy when out of cover
fierce dome
unless you're keeping the control room open you need to kill two purples max anyway
echo vector
Oh I know. It's easy to kill the purple regardless
nocturne crescent
Really need the eaglebearer! Anyone want to do the raid
flint iris
@nocturne crescent use the lfg channels below for your platform instead
nocturne crescent
Thank you
heady ruin
hi all, in general, how much time should i set if i want to attempt raid?
flint iris
For iron horse from start to finish if you’re not being carried I’d say at least 2-3 hrs
For dh maybe an hr or 2
heady ruin
thanks @flint iris that numbers look healthier than what i'd expect. i have always avoided raid because how long i heard it takes, but i guess the number you gave is not that bad
flint iris
It’s decent
If you can find a decent group here willing to teach it’s gonna probably take shorter than that
dapper gyro
@shut adder We raid each day, never encountered it being this nasty really and I'm usually the human barbecue in ctrl room.
When the raid is doing weird things disband the raid and set it up again, usually clears the weirdness. Also ensure everyone has his global difficulty on normal, no directives. Shouldn't make a difference on paper but for some reason it sometimes messes the raids up still.
molten steppe
negotiator's dilemma still does bugs on IH 4 boss 🤦 , we have all time explosions in the tunnel and sometimes RPG slow spawn , we have it 2 times in row , then we dont use Dilema set and this issues gone
Offcorse in the tunel you have sometimes explosions but but not as often as Dilemma sets on
tulip fjord
Most of the time the tunnel explosion is due to the boss needing a stagger as your are dpsing her down at the end of a phase, let the stagger happen then dps her - avoids a lot of this happening.
molten steppe
yop we know about this , but we have aloot of this RED circle explosions from mortars 🙂
tulip fjord
Then don't go into the bunker so quickly ..too many go in whilst dpsing the boss .. be outside it takes a few seconds to run in when so close :)
But in all honesty keep dilemma off simple :)
uneven garden
Is speed run not possible now for DH. Tried shock trap buddy and Lucy with ravenous but Lucy still spins
vagrant wing
@uneven garden It still works but has shorter duration
tender hollow
1 person running negotiators on Williams is useful for killing the ads.
Coyote mask, ND chest, holster, gloves and backpack, fox prayers.
An eagle bearer or famas works well. While 5 are dps’ing him the ND guy can run around marking and killing ads
random linden
tender hollow
Lol another DH raid and dizzy dropped the eb
So maybe him or richochet have a higher chance at dropping the eb?
harsh grove
Can anyone sum up some key stats I need on a build for my first DH run? I figured it'd be like Destiny where I just needed a generally high gear score and I'd be okay, but I've been told Division is a little deeper than that.
tame pawn
I would go for 50% CHC and 150+% chd. Chest with unbreakable, backpack with composure, companion or vigilance
versed swallow
Agreed. And a good assault rifle or smg. The nerfs have made the m1 less attractive in dark hours vs a famas or sgx
harsh grove
Got it. My set now has a bunch of stuff for my skill slots. I gotta switch over to offensive mods and stuff crit chances. Thanks @tame pawn @versed swallow
sterile anchor
Any1 know how to get contractors gloves?
slender parcel
@sterile anchor farm petrov open world
sterile anchor
Kk thanks 🙂
devout kite
I have a question, does the EB have a chance to drop as boss loot like the Ravenous in IH?
I got the ravenous from the first boss on my first IH raid atempt some time ago
vagrant wing
Yes @devout kite it does. If it's the first run of the week you get less then 1% chance for it to drop
devout kite
And after first run no more chance?
vagrant wing
Afaik no. Only from the chest
devout kite
Pff
tardy verge
Anyone running dark hours raid
austere condor
Is it too early to be thinking about raids if I just reached slightly above 500 gear, Thanks.
last cave
lfg for dh psn is the same as my discord
echo vector
use #lfg-raid-ps4
flint iris
@last cave use the ps4 raid lfg for taht, #lfg-raid-console
last cave
oh shit sorry didnt realise
tender hollow
for someone who has never done a raid before, does it matter which one i do first?
celest nebula
yeah, just prepare your communication
late tartan
sage matrix
for someone who has never done a raid before, does it matter which one i do first?
@tender hollow
No
leaden torrent
how long does it takes to actually find a good raid team?
sage matrix
Is it too early to be thinking about raids if I just reached slightly above 500 gear, Thanks.
@austere condor
Not if you know the mechanics of the meta and have a decent build.
how long does it takes to actually find a good raid team?
@leaden torrent
That's entirely dependent on many factors. Sometimes you'll find a great team right away and sometimes you'll give up trying.
leaden torrent
i only need the raid exotics but i havent found a good team for weeks
sage matrix
Make sure you're good to go and ready. I often find people critique their team, yet they don't have the builds or have never completed raids themselves.
shadow rose
its any empty spot left ?
leaden torrent
can you get the key from razorback multiple times?
hollow crown
Need a raid team
real scaffold
@leaden torrent you can get one key from razorback each time you kill him.. only the keys from chest are once a week.. so doing the dh run 6 times in one week will result in overall 10 keys and 2 times opening the chest..
river anvil
2 looking for IH fresh
midnight lance
anyone doing IH last boss or fresh DH?
flint iris
Guys remember to use the correct channels for you raid lfgs: #lfg-raid-pc for pc, #lfg-raid-console for ps4, and #578577794561474571 for Xbox
tender hollow
Fresh lfg raid dark hours exp only
tardy verge
Newbie for dh raid ps4
verbal mist
@flint iris I seriously don’t know how you do it bro . I read this channel because I raid a bunch to learn strats and every time I’m here I see lfg posts .
To those of you wondering why you can’t find a raid team ... I see posts like “all I need is raid exotics and can’t find a team “ well let me answer why you can’t find a team ... a team is a group of players who game together for fun and accomplish things . A team is not 7 other people devoting hours to get you raid exotics .
flint iris
@tender hollow use #lfg-raid-pc
@verbal mist I have no idea how I keep it up either, the raid channels are right below this and are not hard to find at all, but I guess some people just don’t bother reading the channel names ¯_(ツ)_/¯
verbal mist
Lol right above you
flint iris
¯_(ツ)_/¯
stray atlas
Damn, imagine having friends.
vagrant wing
twin ember
New raid players, PLEASE do your due diligence and read/watch a guide and have a general idea before making your attempt. You shouldn't go in to second phase asking "what's a crucible" or third phase going "oh i didn't know third floor wipes you".
It's fine to make mistakes. It's just lazy and "i'm sure someone will carry me" mindset to be completely clueless.
golden grove
room 20 for raid
flint iris
@golden grove use #lfg-raid-pc
iron gazelle
Yep some people just want the gun so they can go back farming control points again. Nothing wrong with that unless you came under-geared with no research whatsoever. Good teams smell a carry from a mile away. If you're new to raiding gotta learn how to listen especially when people give you suggestions.
versed sorrel
rv1 lf6m ih
long violet
DH anyone !?
hardy hollow
What's eagle bearer drop rate?
vagrant wing
EB has the drop rate of less then 1% from the bosses if it's the first raid of the week, and 10% drop rate from box at the end
hardy hollow
If its second raid of the week?
vagrant wing
You won't get any exotic from the boss. The drop rate from the box remain unchanged
hardy hollow
Ok
tender hollow
what i want = FAMAS with max AR dam, Health Dam, DMG to target out of cover + fast hands
vagrant wing
Better off with strained @tender hollow imo
tender hollow
have you done the calculations? and strained is better?
vagrant wing
@coral gulch when you think about it, i got between 10-15 EBs total in all my year one raidig (couple hundred raids) the actual % is closer to 5% ish. But ofc it's all RNG based and they made loot changes in year 2 so idk...
Edit: running the math in my head again - it is closer to 10%. I forgot you can't open the chest after every raid, so factor that, for 2 chars, it up the % quite a bit
have you done the calculations? and strained is better?
@tender hollow you mean for sustain dmg? No. I don't care about sustain, all i careis about busrt dmg
tender hollow
ic for AR
For EB I'm convinced they change it all the time.
I got 2 from 3 fresh runs this week. But previously it felt like a lot lower than 10%.
coral gulch
@vagrant wing Sorry I was talking about Iron Horse but same thing - RNG as you say ( I was given Ravenous by a kindly host/leader)
vagrant wing
Oh my bad then. Sorry
coral gulch
All good mate.. it feels a bit shot in the dark when you're aiming for something specific - can get frustrating...
tender hollow
@coral gulch I feel like its more likely the Ravenous or EB drops on the first time you do the raid on each character each week after the Tuesday reset
coral gulch
Sounds likely - I was doing 3 runs with primary and 2 alts and farming with primary (I understand 'completions' is full runs?) So have been pretty unlucky imo - ( I dont even use my rav....)
summer girder
Just wait til you start farming for the bighorn.
my EB took me 4 months running for it, Ravenous however dropped on the 5th full run, so RNG i guess
coral gulch
Got one ta - but if you could point me towards a Prov chest with unbreakable and god rolled please....
eternal lava
je suis débutant sur nouveau raid j'aimerais y participé invité moi svp
echo vector
"12. English is the primary language of this Discord. Please keep your discussions in English"
flint iris
@eternal lava looks above ^, en anglais sil vous plais
obtuse osprey
Been wondering what builds other people/clans are running for IH.
I've had my clan raid teams running 3 Prov, 1 Grupo, 1 Ceska, and either a fenris or overlord piece for the final slot, weighing heavily on the full red AR build side.
Most of the new players we get, that want to see it I request build something close to an AR build, with minimum 50-60% CHC and 145-150 CHD.
I've been considering running some pugs through IH on my alts, seeing as a lot of people aren't getting the chance apparently, from what I've read on the forums and reddit.
Is it wrong to build check/request people are running something like this, when making pugs on this discord?
I'd just like them to have the best possible chance of completing the raid.
coral gulch
Sensible...
tame sky
Ideally the pugs would have at least a high end dps build like the one you posted, plus a tank and healer build
echo vector
I meanI wouldn't necessarily require them to use ARs because some people just don't like using ARs. If you force such people to use ARs they are likely to do less damage than with their weapon of choice
But they should at least have a good DPS build, yes
tame sky
I’ve been experimenting with a 4pc striker build with a Sleipner for boss 1 and 4
Absolutely rips
echo vector
And have watched videos (obviously it's different to watch videos vs actually doing it,but it still helps)
tame sky
I’ve definitely helped carry one person through and watched his play style and build throughout
And offered suggestions after
But more than one carry can be challenging
dapper gyro
Nah totally normal to ask for a decent enough dps build. Not that much DPS needed for most of IH though. Actually we just ran a SHD level 55 through IH yesterday with only a bit above 100 or so chd, but he did fine, only lacking some boss 3 damage. I also wouldn't force a specific weapon on them as long as they don't run a facetanking weapon and playstyle 🤭 AR, M1A or LMG can all get the job done, even LadyDeath on boss 4 rpgs and adds if they know what they're doing. Worst case let them run the Coyote's mask to buff the strong dps guys.
long violet
DH !? anyoane ?
verbal mist
Agree with above on dps what Robby said .
obtuse osprey
Good to hear, because I'd like to get players through that want the trophies and mask.
elfin stone
How hard are the raid like what u need to do it? and anyone have an advice for a build that always welcome to raid with?
opaque temple
Can someone please help me through iron horse raid at like 9:30 EST? I am only SHD 100 but have a DPS build with eagle bearer hitting at 117 base with 52 city chance and 163 Crit damage
echo vector
@elfin stone make sure to watch videos about the raid mechanics before your first attempt at each raid. It is not super important for DH, but you should still do it. It is quite important for IH because it is a lot harder to carry people through IH; it is far less forgiving if any person isn't able to fulfill their role.
For DH all you really need is DPS. I'd say somewhere in the 50CHC/150CHD? range. One person at boss 4 should have a skill build with the EMP,and another should be survivalist,but that's it.
For IH you should have at minimum a DPS build, but the team will need (not necessarily at all bosses) a healer and a tank. A hazard protection build is not 100% necessary but useful. Bring those builds if you have them.
flint iris
@opaque temple use #578577794561474571
elfin stone
thx @echo vector been playing the game for a 2-3 weeks now so i think imight need to look into builds and so on
flint iris
@elfin stone theres a couple of good dps builds to get you started in the pinned message in #td2-build-advice , click the link and head over to the hub section
versed swallow
Question for anyone speed running dark hours. Are you beating the Razorback in less than 4 opens and if so how
flint iris
I’m guessing just with a coordinated team and high dps
versed swallow
Our group is able to open the front and back simultaneously but we are finding that as soon as we inflict 50 percent damage to the front or back it instantly closes up and doesn’t process any critical system damage on the other side
obsidian plover
I’m looking for a clan to raid with
warped violet
obtuse osprey
And don't random add 😂
humble solar
@versed swallow you gotta do over dmg on a force close
celest nebula
builds depends on what's your role and what kind of DPS you comfortable doing
tender hollow
WOW, this team is the best of the best ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGDjvrblmsw
summer girder
wait so from the 4 man video, does it mean the purples stop going for the power when control room doors are closed again?
vagrant wing
not quite @summer girder The theory is that purples stop going for power after the door closed and the men inside has 100 stacks. But that's just a theory that need further testing (look at the vid again, the window broke at the begging pretty much and yet the power went off 2-3 times)
vast wolf
Hello. Any guide for the new raid. I have been way since tu6. Finally done a legendary mission wanna try new raid. But every walk-through on youtube apears to be from the early days of raid. Any one have a good one for me. Thx
vagrant wing
what's wrong with them then?
smoky tapir
pretty much the vids from early on are still the strats today
vast wolf
@smoky tapir ok thx good to know.
vagrant wing
If you still don't want to watch yt vids
https://imgur.com/a/EhOorKZ
https://www.reddit.com/r/thedivision/comments/ibhy5d/ultimate_iron_horse_raid_guide/ (the 2nd one is more for speedruns)
@vast wolf
vast wolf
@vagrant wing thak you gonna have a read at work.
@vagrant wing wow man nice job on the 1st one don t know ho did it but its 100% well done. Thx a lot.
vagrant wing
Good luck man
ionic frigate
what does "exp players" mean? (still new raids)
echo vector
experienced players
ionic frigate
oh, duh lol
inner lily
World’s first 4 man Iron Horse raid completion
vast wolf
Hi. Again for the old raid razorback is still dps build viable? Trying to bring 3 new guys to the game but they are eagerly to do the raid. Still haven't cleaerd tidal invaded in heroic and they wanna try the raid. Don't want to take them to the discovery difficulty cause if we clear i think they will think the game is easy. And loose that feeling that we always need a good build.
inner lily
Yes. DPS is king in Dark Hours and for Razorback
vast wolf
@inner lily thank you.
vagrant wing
^^^ what he said. Although to make things easier for you guys make sure someone running a skill dmg build to get rid of the drones
inner lily
EMP with skill haste will help a lot wit drones
flint iris
I find that using hw and skilled on chest helps a lot too
vast wolf
@vagrant wing I know we gonna wipe hard. Just want to know what to tell them to try and build. Probably gonna build a electronics build for me to help them. Use emp pulse and the assault drone. Thx
vagrant wing
It's not that. They made the drones pretty difficult in TU 9 (?). Basically you have to spec into skill dmg to one shot them with the jummer pulse, if you don't they hit pretty hard
smoky tapir
At least hopefuly their gear is up to snuff and not just a random hodpodge. While you and they might not care for wiping, the others in teh group (if its a random group) will and wouldn't be crazy about it
inner lily
@vagrant wing I never had to do drones on razorback but what would be a good EMP build consist of?
vast wolf
The game is feeling so easy on lvl 30 gs500 that I m not sure if they getting that feeling of unpower as we had. I will take them on a 4 party probably.
flint iris
@inner lily 4hw, wyvern chest, btsu gloves
Healing hive and jammer pulse
Skilled talent on chest
vagrant wing
@vagrant wing I never had to do drones on razorback but what would be a good EMP build consist of?
@inner lily You'll have to ask AJ. I have a different build specifically for speeds. It's not suit for eveyone. But if i remember correctly the "meta" build consist of 4 HW, 1 Wyvern and 1 Hana maybe? i'm not quite sure
flint iris
You can rest gives with btsu, and can heal in the gens if start adds start shooting you
vagrant wing
Oh yeah thx @flint iris i didn't see you typing
inner lily
Thx @flint iris
tender hollow
Emp grenade from technician is a one tap if you manage to time it right and land it on razorback
vagrant wing
@tender hollow that's means youre not running survivalist which is a huge waste imo
scenic breach
Anyone running raid 1 today? Im down for it. I need an eagle bearer😟
flint iris
@scenic breach use the lfg channels below
scenic breach
My bad, was in wrong discord channel lol
tender hollow
The other plate guy can run it instead
serene vessel
Any group doing Iron Horse raid I'm trying to finish the 2nd and 3rd boss because I need the exotic pistol parts.
smoky tapir
use the LFG channels
acoustic spear
starting DH raid
normal mirage
use the LFG channels
flint iris
@acoustic spear use #lfg-raid-console
wooden fractal
flint iris
@wooden fractal use the lfg channels #lfg-raid-pc
flint zephyr
I need some people to do the raid with me please let me know the old raid!!!
timid field
anyone here who wanna play the new raid ?
valid marlin
If you are looking for people to raid with use the specific lfg channels, right underneath this one:
PC: #lfg-raid-pc
PS4: #lfg-raid-console
XB1: #578577794561474571
flint iris
grrrrrrrrr
upbeat mesa
did they change something today with health damage at boss 2? it seems the carbon monoxide levels rise way earlier and the tank takes health damage way earlier today
wispy marten
Hi all: Hope this is the right spot to ask, but: Where to find a good clan to learn how to do raids ? Watched some Youtube movies and fall asleep not learned anything but that its lengthy...
flint iris
@wispy marten #td2-clan-recruitment
wispy marten
Thanks m8 🙂
latent flax
Wanted to say thanks again to @past pewter @chrome smelt @tough knot @acoustic peak @tender hollow for the great runs for IH. I've graduated (both ravenous and regulus) and all sets 🙂
past pewter
come join us in raid rv2
latent flax
sure bro
flint iris
@exotic temple use the lfg channels below
exotic temple
oh sry, i didnt see what channel im on
chrome smelt
Wanted to say thanks again to @past pewter @chrome smelt @tough knot @acoustic peak @tender hollow for the great runs for IH. I've graduated (both ravenous and regulus) and all sets 🙂
@latent flax Great runs fore sure congrats on the full set, we look forward to that stagger now
latent flax
😉 heck ya, or if you need perfect heals ring me
lunar hull
I don't think there are enough lvl30s for that to be possible
meager pasture
leaderboards says that 4 people with 30lvl finished IH. Probably with 40lvl players.
narrow dirge
Hey is there a reason why the discord voice channels "server" is EU? I guess I didn't notice it until last night when finishing up IH and folks started sounding like Mr. Roboto...
smoky tapir
i mean its an EU developed game, so the discord is hosted in EU
mild ravine
can i go through the whole iron horse raid with a crit dps build?
never done a raid dont really know what to expect and its really hard to get into one with no experience
vagrant wing
Well technically you can, just make sure you know the mechanics and you build is actually good
mild ravine
id think to say its good but honestly dont think it is XD
tame sky
id think to say its good but honestly dont think it is XD
@mild ravine post a pic of the build and the stats
flint iris
@mild ravine upload to imgur and send the link here
vagrant wing
I'm wouldn't recommend glass cannon unless you really know what you're doing
mild ravine
i get 6-8 mil in firing range
vagrant wing
and i wouldn't recommend SMG for IH either
mild ravine
and ik thats the only piece i have for it atm looking to switch out for vigilence and unbreakable or keep the addreneline
i have a fal build with 171 crit dmg and 50% but with coyote the chc isnt a big deal
vagrant wing
radical question: since obviously you don't care about the 15% hsd the providence give you - why don't you use 1 ceska piece and Fox's (named overlord knees)?
i have a fal build with 171 crit dmg and 50% but with coyote the chc isnt a big deal
@mild ravine go with that then (if it doesn't have GC on the chest ofc)
vagrant wing
Yep
ripe mist
I was wondering if anyone would be willing to run me through a raid or two? Never done one before and I want to get an EB
I'm 'Jacket-.' on Uplay
worn zinc
anyone wanna add me to do a raid? ive NEVER gotten the eagle bearer and i really wanna farm a raid 😦
add me on uPlay - punchoutkid
warped violet
flint iris
@ripe mist @worn zinc use the raid channels below
ripe mist
I don't know how it works
flint iris
What’s not to understand?
ripe mist
What does LFG mean? What do people do with the information?
flint iris
Looking for group
flint iris
@flint zephyr use the raid channels below
tender hollow
https://imgur.com/a/oejLgJc
@mild ravine this is already better than 50% of the builds I see in the raid. If you have Coyotes you can lower your CHC to 50 and get more CHD.
flint iris
@flint zephyr again, use. The. Raid. Channels. Below.
@tender hollow he’s using a lady death btw, so staying at 60 is good, but otherwise yeah, he should lower chc to 50 for m1a
still vapor
So I'm new to the raid times board, are they glitched out for dark hours?
vagrant wing
what do you mean?
mild ravine
@mild ravine this is already better than 50% of the builds I see in the raid. If you have Coyotes you can lower your CHC to 50 and get more CHD.
@tender hollow ok i have dps but ive heard i need to go into raid with a few different builds i have a skill build aswell in which ive been told has a lot of synergy to it what other build should i farm up before i attempt the raid? Maybe a cc idk. https://imgur.com/a/O9kbx3p
vagrant wing
@mild ravine that's not true. Just do it as a DPS, it's the easiest role and you'll be able to learn the other roles while doing it. With that said, for IH the builds needed are: Healer, Tank, DPS and some groups wants CC and hzd build
tender hollow
imo Tank is a good 2nd build for the last boss mainly. Healer you can start making once you start raiding as you need the Future Initiative chest to give everyone 25% more damage, but the Healer is most probably the 2nd best build after dps. Just let everyone know you need the chest and someone will drop it for you if they already have it.
Healer build in general is 4 x Future Initiative, BTSU gloves and Alps backpack with Safeguard.
mild ravine
alright ty all time to farm a different chest and then try to find a group XD
warm ibex
Depends on the group, but i would alsways recomend bringing a tank(4pc bullwark, gila chest with vanguard, gila backpack with adrenaline rush) healer (to start with(3pc future, btus gloves, marukami chest with emphatic resolve, alps backpack with opportunistic) and a full dps with unbrakable, you can go with mostly any group with this setup for the beginning
smoky tapir
well tank, using 4pc bulwark is pointless as it currently does not work (unless you jump thru hoops)
warm ibex
I made a suggestion for people new to the raid. It works fine for me with armor regen. There is not any boss you cant do with this build, got you its not the optimum choice but it is still working. @smoky tapir feel free to make some better suggestions👍
smoky tapir
i know you "can" use it in the raid. Ive personally use 3pcs with it. What i stated was the 4pc Makeshift Repairs Does NOT work (this has been tested by multiple people). You Can get it to work by equipping 3 pieces, take damage, then equip the 4th piece and it will kinda work until you die.
TP tanks are currently "better" since you can provide some additional utility for the group and nothing in the raid requires "heavy" shield tanking (4th boss kinda is the only real one and even then a TP tank works just fine
smoky tapir
lol fixed it
tender hollow
On my tank, sometimes I'll switch in Punch Drunk (a god roll would be 20 pistol dam, 15 weap dam, 20 headshot, 6 CHC and CHC mod), and it does pretty good damage for a tank with Liberty
oak oracle
Should use regulus
cinder pilot
Ok, so it's taken 10+ DH completions, still no EB
First time completing IH: here's a Ravenous
Damn, man
tender hollow
what’s RNG? just so I know for future ref
flint iris
Like the chances of you getting it
cinder pilot
Random Number Generation
Div 2's life blood
Btw, does anyone know why the Mantis exotic isn't on the weapon display board in Haven (like the Regulus and Ravenous)?
tender hollow
Btw, does anyone know why the Mantis exotic isn't on the weapon display board in Haven (like the Regulus and Ravenous)?
@tubbz.#5219
very good question, I’ve noticed that too
cinder pilot
I was just wondering why that is, considering how consistent they've been with added exotic weapons on the DC board, and how it seems the Haven board is now the one to be filled....
tender hollow
yeah, very strange
cinder pilot
Johan coming out on SOTG, proudly saying they fixed the SMG crafting cost, and here I am OCD about my weapon board being incomplete. SMH
tender hollow
Man I honestly love IH
Killed Williams up there at his turret and his key also dropped there
Not at the person who killed him or on the ground
Killing him up there is a lot easier. If he can stay riot foamed it and you overcharge pulse it gets a lot easier
devout kite
do the regulus parts drop only on weekly loot?
smoky tapir
they only drop on first kills of the week of bosses
devout kite
so on weekly reset, got it
cant get the parts this week pff coz already did ih for now
smoky tapir
only the ingot from the final chest isn't "limited" but ya, if you killed the boss already prior, you have to wait till next weekly reset
lilac ginkgo
Do we have to complete DH before we can do IH?
vagrant wing
Nope
lilac ginkgo
Thanks
zinc matrix
@languid solstice yo sorry bro I lost power at my house basically a black out
Sorry about that man
tender hollow
what would be the minimum for me to join in on a raid?
vagrant wing
Raid voice
elfin stone
so a question do u need to lvl up your shd 1k+ to raid?
vagrant wing
Nope
flint iris
You can raid right after you beat wony if you really wanted to
Just have the right builds and gear
And watch some vids to learn up the mechnics
Makes it easier for you and the team
elfin stone
is the mechnics similar to discovery mode?
flint iris
Not really
Core mechanics aren’t shown
Most is there but the important ones are not
tender hollow
@tender hollow DPS build you can use for all bosses in both raids -> https://www.reddit.com/r/thedivision/comments/g9w0xj/baseline_dps_build_for_any_contentraid/
use Unbreakable the first couple of raids you do
vast vector
its just 4 pieces one from each boss, then the last piece from the loot box
you can check it in the project menu
maybe check a youtube video. I didn't pay attention to which parts dropped from which boss when I completed it.
pastel grail
Anyone willing to help me with DH? I need help learning razorback. I've got plenty of exp with both div games so I'll be quick to catch on
valid marlin
@pastel grail Use #lfg-raid-console
vast vector
sawyer's doesn't stop buddy's seeker from staggering you?
autumn beacon
question is it possible to carry someone through a raid
tawdry island
Depends on the group
versed swallow
In both raids it’s fairly easy to carry 1 player if the other 7 know what to do
dreamy token
anyone need 1 more for IH? I have only been through it about 4-5 times...
flint iris
@dreamy token use #lfg-raid-pc
whole wagon
You'd want to ask that in #lfg-raid-pc.
cinder pilot
So, real quick, if you say farm Razorback 5 times past your weekly raid completion, can you open the raid chest again in the same week?
(Never understood why people "farm" the end raid bosses)
But, you WON'T get extra gear set loot drops, is that right? Just whatever the chest drops
dry valley
Only if you have more then 5 keys you can farm the last raid boss
flint iris
Yo can still farm the last boss regardless of how many keys you have
cinder pilot
and farming to get 5 keys, will guarantee you another chance at opening the chest?
frosty badge
anyone wanna do a raid?
flint iris
@frosty badge use #lfg-raid-pc
frosty badge
i did
spark mica
flint iris
@spark mica use the raid channels below
quick cedar
what is RV5 and 5m means in Lfg-raid-pc chat
vagrant wing
RV == raid voice
LF#M == looking for # members
@quick cedar
quick cedar
@vagrant wing thnx
gaunt grail
Anyone else having issues staggering morozova on 4th we clearly hit her with the rav and she still got rockets off
vagrant wing
If she in the animation while you guys got the siren going, no matter the stagger - the rockets will fire
Also make sure you guys stagger her properly (red to blue stacks - or right to left shoulder) if you're not doing it already
uneven garden
We have this issue at least once per run @gaunt grail. Unusually at last phase
dapper gyro
As SFC_Adler said, ensure to not start damaging her too much before she has been staggered again.
Otherwise she will go immune and start the wipe mechanic while the rockets are still active and can't be staggered anymore.
viscid remnant
hey guys, I just came back to Div2 and was looking at the raid chat... What is RV11?
humble solar
Any PS4 players: I'm looking to build a new speedrun team. Times will be daily from noon est to 4pm est. As well as late night 11pm est-5am est.
-
please know all checkpoints thoroughly
-
be able to adapt and listen to directions
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be able to run without unbreakable and modify loadouts as necessary.
DM me if interested. please dont send me how many clears you have, congrats you camped boss 4 cp a lot. Just be flexible.
bleak crescent
Any raid groups?
uneven garden
Quick question: has it been confirmed that the green laser at Morozova is on a timer and no point shooting em
valid marlin
@humble solar @bleak crescent Use #lfg-raid-console
humble solar
@valid marlin not lfging, just a post to have people DM me whenever they see it.
tranquil flume
@uneven garden it is , no point shooting the green laser
onyx elbow
The green lasers are on a timer? For real? I swore I could shoot them and they would stop, maybe it was just my timing
uneven garden
@onyx elbow sometime they do sometimes don’t for me so I wondered. I heard a lot ppl say it’s on a timer
tender hollow
The green lasers are on a timer? For real? I swore I could shoot them and they would stop, maybe it was just my timing
@onyx elbow https://twitter.com/xWormer/status/1293594275888979968 reply is by a Ubisoft dev
viscid fossil
i know they have burst, but i usually shoot them and they stop
tranquil flume
Its just timing 
simple mountain
hi anyone still doing the first raid
tender hollow
If their pointed at you just stay in cover. I was top left doing dps and they only stay up for a couple seconds
valid marlin
@simple mountain Try in #lfg-raid-pc
gaunt grail
@simple mountain do carries on first raid daily our group runs 2 iron and 2 carries each day
tender hollow
Does anyone know if 83.6 skill damage (which includes 10 skill damage and 12 drone damage from technician) is enough to kill all the drones in Razorback?
glad shadow
@tender hollow I wish I could see my build stats now to answer this question lol. I just know what works off the top of my head
uneven garden
Tech should be good enough I believe. The HW Loop gives 25% dmg boost
but with tech the grenade will have to be slam dunk
tender hollow
Thanks @uneven garden and @glad shadow . I know its enough if there a demolitionist in the group but haven't tried it out yet without one. My build isn't HW. Its got overwatch + opportunistic
uneven garden
yup @tender hollow I also heard of you draw a weapon with DTOC it also helps
but I am not so sure coz haven’t tried
vagrant wing
@tender hollow it should. My build has roughly 82% if i remember correctly and it working just fine
tender hollow
Tops @vagrant wing. Its my 3rd char, so the gear isn't maxed out yet.
glad shadow
Ive been using a 4PC HW/Skilled/BTSU Setup all year and it works with all Specs, Tech is best IMO because I use the 6th piece for extra armor
uneven garden
Skilled is for CD?
glad shadow
CD?
uneven garden
cool down
tender hollow
I don't know why but skilled with the drone never worked for me
uneven garden
IIRC skilled is 25% reset CD?
glad shadow
Yes
tender hollow
^ yes. 25% chance a skill kill resets the cool down
uneven garden
k but you have HW?
glad shadow
That plus the HW backpack
And BTSU
All those combined increase the chances that I have no cooldown
uneven garden
OIC...
glad shadow
I almost never have to wait for my pulse to come back
Its usually 2 in a row, I blow my hive to get the 3rd if necessary
uneven garden
yup it’s about timing of open that thing
If timing good you’d only have 3rd wave in dmg phase ?
glad shadow
Exactly..I throw nades, pull up to the front of my circle and jam everything including dogs if its in my radius. My team starts to DPS Razorback and I wait for the 2nd wave (blow those) then wait for the 3rd wave. I proc OV then blow the 3rd wave
The only downfall is if my DPS is terrible
So I have my Overwatch guard me while doing drones
uneven garden
oh yeah usually there should be more than 10 seconds between 2 and 3 wave
unless DPS melts the weak points
is it true you could only dmg 25% each phase?
smoky tapir
normally yes, you "can" bypass the limit with well timed high damage shots
but after 50% damage to a panel, it will close
uneven garden
K so technically 2 phase still possible
smoky tapir
yes
uneven garden
I have seen some one shot RB on YouTube but just haven’t seen those speed runs videos lately
glad shadow
@uneven garden It all depends on the team's DPS. If you have great DPS you would be looking at 3 waves, everything below is 2 waves
slow dune
I have one question: i joined a party and we started the IH raid on the last boss.
After few tries other 7 players left me alone.
Now i have the 4th boss checkpointed for me too?
vagrant wing
I have one question: i joined a party and we started the IH raid on the last boss.
After few tries other 7 players left me alone.
Now i have the 4th boss checkpointed for me too?
@slow dune
No. Only the raid leader (host) has it. If you didn't start the party - then no
slow dune
I was become the raid leader and i used fast travel to go back and return to boss, you sure?
vagrant wing
If you still in the game - yeah. When you leave - you'll probably lose it
dapper gyro
Once you join a raid your current checkpoint gets reset to the one from the current raid leader.
So yes, you'll have the checkpoint if you joined them and they were on boss 4.
glad shadow
☝️☝️☝️
tender hollow
can someone help me with the final mission new york expansion
glad shadow
Like I said you better kill her before the reset 😂
tender hollow
https://imgur.com/gallery/wHR0vgI
Cheat sheet for codes on 2nd boss
You’ll only have checkpoint if you wiped
slow dune
Once you join a raid your current checkpoint gets reset to the one from the current raid leader.
So yes, you'll have the checkpoint if you joined them and they were on boss 4.
@dapper gyro
Thanks, what a good news!
dapper gyro
Nope @tender hollow no need for a wipe, well at least on XBox but guess it's the same everywhere, once you join a raid your checkpoint gets reset, you can see the info in the bottom left for a few seconds.
tender hollow
Lol my team learned it the hard way
I already completed raid for the week, was meant to do boss 4, was made leader and started raid
Tu12 guaranteed ravenous is gonna get a nerf cause cry baby intimidate users can’t kill
vagrant wing
Guess i was wrong then. Sorry about that. Thx for letting me know
hollow yoke
i dont think they will nerf ravenous
steady shell
Can anyone help me out and let me know what i’m doing wrong? I’ve beaten DH numerous times and havent been able to get to the reward chest once
opal heron
@steady shell have you been doing discovery or normal? the chest only opens up on normal mode
rigid cosmos
Hey folks, looking for a friendly group to raid tonight (Xbox)
flint iris
@rigid cosmos you might wanna try #578577794561474571
devout kite
i have a question: in IH at the 3rd boss when you have to equal the pressures, in which direction does the pressure go up and in which does it go down? never did that part myself
dapper gyro
There's + and - sign on the letter thingies you have to turn.
When you stand on the right side of one of those then shooting the top of it lowers the pressure, shooting the bottom raises it. @devout kite
devout kite
ok ty
tender hollow
Increase means moving it in
Decrease means pushing it back
shy vigil
river anvil
anybody fresh IH?
nova stag
Hey guys, just wanna find out, does the goal projects for foundry and future initiative expire ?
smoky tapir
no
nova stag
okay awesome , thanks 😄
valid marlin
@shy vigil @river anvil Use #lfg-raid-pc
hexed patrol
Looking to do some raids have participated in some never completed one yet just shoot me a message
smoky tapir
use the LFG channels
flint iris
@hexed patrol use #lfg-raid-console
verbal mist
Something changed yesterday… I ran razor back three days ago with my drone build. For hardwired with wire and chest with skilled. Killed all the drones no problem. Yesterday I ran razor back with a friend and it did not kill the drones. I had to switch the chest out to glass cannon. And just keep popping the hive to reset the EMP
hearty fox
Yea, they buffed the HP of the drones at some point.
I think it requires 80ish% Skill damage to kill them
Just checked, I have round about 75% Skill Damage to one shot them (with the watch)
cinder pilot
Let me make it an unofficial rule: if you decide to use LFG, be prepared to have mistakes and wipes happen.
If you want perfect runs, make that damn clear
No one else wants whiners, no matter how many runs you've done. Cooperation, not competition.
Love it when groups literally say "So, who can we decide gets the blame now?". Seriously.
shadow matrix
Adds are very tough now, it takes like 8 bullets to kill them
flint iris
8 bullets is kinda not a lot
warped violet
Depends on with what weapon lol
verbal mist
@hearty fox I had 4 hw with max skill damage , wyvern skilled chest with max skill damage , and btsu gloves . So it looks like I was 60 percent as the gloves are haste and repair . Hmm 🤔
It worked last week no problem
hearty fox
I forgot the watch, so I am at ~75%
verbal mist
Oh yeah that means I’m at 70 percent
I bet with skill damage gloves it would be fine . Very weird yesterday . I literally ran it Sunday no issues then yesterday no dice same exact loadout
I’m 1289 shd so all maxed out .
hearty fox
My Gear looks like this: Alps vest, Hast+Repair, Wyvern Haste+Damage, 2 China Haste+Damage, 2 Hana Haste+Damage
With the Jammer and Heal-Pistol.
Backpack with calculated
Unless my team summons the waves to quickly, I am able to take care of every wave of drones
verbal mist
Good idea in calculated . Chest has skilled I assume ?
hearty fox
If I were a better player, yes. But since I usually f**** up my rolls from the explosions, I have unbreakable 😦
verbal mist
Lol 😂
I ran gc for over 300 clears on lvl 30 . I totally understand. If ads get me I’m like guys kill that ad now . Lol 😂
hearty fox
😄
verbal mist
Calculated reduces haste correct ?
hearty fox
Reduces directly the CD of the skill. In numbers, from ~13 seconds to 7 - 8 seconds.
verbal mist
But from cover only ?
Where you in cover on gen ? You pulse from gen ?
Maybe shoot arrow then go lean on something ?
hearty fox
Correct from cover at the generator. After the circles disapear I move to a cover at the sides, front or back.
verbal mist
I run up to razor literally my face is on razor and pulse
On second time but pulse standing up after firing arrow
hearty fox
This is tough. Usually I have the freedom to take care of the drones, while someone else shoots the arrow.
This gives me the freedom to entirely focus on drones and manage my cd properly.
With arrow I usually miss atleast 2 or 3 drones.
It leads to panic from all sides :/
At this point I do have a decent timing to get all the drones during the first wave from any generator.
After that it is all about how well my team deals damage. If they are to slow/no arrows to open Razorback, they have to take care of the second drone wave.
olive stump
guys normal raid invite please ı am new. nick name: Bekir.7
flint iris
@olive stump use #lfg-raid-pc
olive stump
okey
vagrant wing
I bet with skill damage gloves it would be fine . Very weird yesterday . I literally ran it Sunday no issues then yesterday no dice same exact loadout
@verbal mist You probably had someone on your team with demo spec (5% OOC for the team) that's why you were able to one shot them (probably)
feral path
CAN ANYONE HELP ME COMPLETE THE IRON HORSE ? @dreamy pivot
valid marlin
@feral path
- @/everyone doesn't work in this server
- No need to shout (use all caps)
- Use #lfg-raid-pc
feral path
SORRY
dreamy pivot
hey, @valid marlin how are you?
valid marlin
I'm great! Hbu?
dreamy pivot
im doing great
celest nebula
lmao full throttle there
when capslock isn't enough they had to attempt to do an @ everyone
dreamy pivot
hey @celest nebula , wanna know what's funnier
they didn't even ping everyone, they pinged me
tender hollow
On buddy and Lucy why can’t first timers watch a yt vid?
And when their doing it the keep both in the middle never in either shop
And when I say stop on buddy they think they can try and kill him lol
tender hollow
Fresh LFG RAID IRON HORSE EXP PLAYERS RV4
valid marlin
@tender hollow Use #lfg-raid-pc
tender hollow
whant to do first raid have mic
mild ivy
@winter junco stacking weapon handling?
I got a pretty solid dps build if you’re interested with what I run
dreamy pivot
And when I say stop on buddy they think they can try and kill him lol
@tender hollow that's why you try doing a discovery and see if they are capable of doing that, do it with people from either your clan, or that can listen?
i wasn't able to do DH with my clan until i reached 150SHD and had a few other requirements
tender hollow
Discovery is broken. After last weeks maintenance it still delats. And discovery there’s no mechanics. Pretty sure there’s a cap on how much they heal before they don’t
Only done one full discovery and that was before TU8
Other was a razorback cp I somehow acquired
restive herald
How to become experienced in raid
icy hull
Same as anything else, by learning it and practicing.
restive herald
how do i learn ? by playing or watching yt vid
icy hull
both
restive herald
well playing is hard coz everyone is looking for experienced players only
tender hollow
Watch a yt vid before lying to get into a raid
Then if there’s a mess up you’ll know where to go without asking
restive herald
😆
dusk flame
lfg for new raid
smoky tapir
use #lfg-raid-pc
dusk oxide
How come on discovery I get some some people with gs 500 more than lvl 40s? I don’t even think it scales for them
swift pike
Just got the regulus project, do I have to wait for a fresh week to get the part drops? Or do they drop on the next run you do?
smoky tapir
has to be on first kills of bosses for a part to drop
flint iris
@dusk oxide it does scale for them, to the member with the highest level
tender hollow
Doing dark hours with these rats who expect to be carried though IH but don’t listen
I’m saying stay fking here and kill whatever comes out the door. What they do is stay around boomer and all get wiped when he does his animation
manic raptor
Yea. I don’t play with more than 1-2 brand new players at a time. It’s painful to play with a group that doesn’t know what to do and doesn’t listen
flint iris
Miller watch your language
late scarab
it feels like the raids were made easier this week after the maintenance. did anyone else get that feeling?
cinder pilot
“Watch yo profanity.” - Bend3n
manic raptor
Why does everyone always think there’s stealth changes to the raid. It’s been the same since they changed it the first time
celest nebula
placebo effect
autumn turret
most of the groups I play with have a few people who only stand and 1 spot and kill anything there is but dont do the actually thing they need to do there
glad shadow
Well...they made changes in Dark Hours without saying anything, it would be silly to believe they have not made some adjustments to Iron Horse or at least will in the future
autumn turret
yeah but its stuff like guy on b for second boss hey we need water from b do something
and they just sit there
tender hollow
it feels like the raids were made easier this week after the maintenance. did anyone else get that feeling?
@late scarab maybe you were in a group with players that were more experienced
manic raptor
Well...they made changes in Dark Hours without saying anything, it would be silly to believe they have not made some adjustments to Iron Horse or at least will in the future
@glad shadow What changes? Only unannounced changes were the ones with lvl 40 that removed one shot mechanics
sage matrix
how do i learn ? by playing or watching yt vid
@restive herald
Watch a speedrun on YouTube. It's fast and you learn the best way to do it.
glad shadow
@manic raptor Starting with Aces, adjustments for 1-shot mechanics and speed tactics were made before lvl 40. Not to mention skill changes that were meant to slow down raid completion times
restive herald
@sage matrix or maybe you can help teach others as I know you have it many times
sage matrix
@sage matrix or maybe you can help teach others as I know you have it many times
@restive herald
YouTube speedruns are the easiest way and teaches to a high standard. They are short to watch and everyone can access them. Any reason not to watch a video of it?
restive herald
I just thought figuring out what to do while doing the raid would be a better experience.
Just my opinion
weary niche
It's a so so checking Speedruns, because Speedrun tactics are really different how people don't casually
sage matrix
W
I just thought figuring out what to do while doing the raid would be a better experience.
@restive herald
It can be annoying for the team who needs to carry that person. However, if they listen well, have a good build and learn fast then it should be fine.
tender hollow
What's the best build for IH raid?
tender hollow
That's true. Just got back to Div 2 and I was looking to join raid groups for IH since I haven't done it yet
faint igloo
Hi all. Ive never done a Division raid before but I wanted to jump into one at some point soon. Im gonna watch walkthroughs and guides to both raids first to get a grasp of the mechanics, but are there groups accepting people who havent gone through them yet?
devout kite
There are a lot of people who are willing to help new raid players, you just have to listen to what they say and learn
faint igloo
Sounds good to me!
devout kite
Also as per what builds you need in each raid, dh: dps, a tank maybe (not neccesarly) and a hard wired build with emp pulse
For ih: dps, a healer build, a hazard build (not neccesarly, but it is advised) and a tank build
Also the tank build in dh needs pointman, in ih u can either run pointman or tardigrade
Since at the final boss u need 2 tanks one of you can run pointman and the other tardigrade
If you want a dps with more survivability run a chest piece with unbreakable
Most people do not recommend the sacrifice because u die instantly because of the perfect glass cannon talent
But if u are good at shooting from cover and dont get shot at, you can risk running sacrifice
But bare in mind you die instantly, you are a dps so you have the minimum armor possible and because of the sacrifice all damage you take is amplified by 60%
With unbreakable you do less damage, but you can play more aggresive coz you also have more survivability
faint igloo
Thanks for the advice bud. Ive got the majority of the builds ready bar healer build so ill work on getting that sorted before jumping into raid. ill work on the Unbreakable chest too. ive got Sacrifice but might not be the best option for a first raid.
For the pulse build you reckon HW over Eclipse? I guess its so you can use it more often.
devout kite
Eclipse is for status builds, with HW you can spam the emp pulse and you can also destroy the drones coz you would want to run a HW with skill damage rolls
You do not want to just apply emp status on the drones
You want to destroy them with the pulse
faint igloo
Oh excellent, in that case then I might have the majority of that build sorted (ish).
flint iris
Well that depends on what you know
devout kite
I mean you could do it without a mic, but you should not play an essential role and listen to the others
light socket
Yeah i did the exact same with DH, eventually i got the hang of it and could carry myself
devout kite
Like u could only play the guys defending the control room at 2nd boss
flint iris
And adds all the time
Without a mic it just makes things very difficult for you and your teams
devout kite
At 3rd dps/adds on ground
At morzova idk maybe the tank dancing with morzova or add control
light socket
Theres a lot of people that expect too much from me. But tbh im fine with doing non-important roles. ive also done every destiny raid with no mic, so i dont think it will be that hard. but finding people will be hard
flint iris
Well yeah
light socket
i understand why people want as much comms as possible, if i tried to deny that i would be mauled lmao
flint iris
Well it is the hardest content in the game
devout kite
Well in dh you dont really need a lot of comms, in ih u kinda do
Well it is the hardest content in the game
@flint iris no, legendarys are way harder even tho they are only bullet sponges rushing like mad men
light socket
im probably gonna look at a video explaining the mechanics just so if i try it, i can get the hang of it
flint iris
Raids are harder cause they require communications and more problem solving
devout kite
Tbh no they are way easier, legendarys are cancer even without all those mechanics
light socket
well i guess the only question then would be if its possible to be done.
devout kite
I wonder if they will add a 3rd raid too, curios what that will be about
Or they will just give up on the game after q2-q3 2021
devout kite
Not really tbh
light socket
damn, i just returned like 3 days ago and the items for this season look so cool
so im kinda worked up that the season is ending in a week
and ive done a bunch of legendaries before. so i dont think IH will be massively hard
mechanics will be the hardest thing to comprehend
devout kite
You will learn them eventually
Just start with the easy roles if you cant use mic
But doing the more important ones need you to communicate
Also do not run a dps with lady death
Lady death is meta everywhere besides raids and legendarys
devout kite
No it is just bad in raids/legendarys
faint igloo
Cheers for the advice by the way everyone. Much appreciated. Im away this weekend but next week ill see if there are any groups taking first timers through.
drifting pebble
:rooHi: hello people, I see you are talking about first timers
devout kite
@flint iris in dh you could get away with lady death at boomer/weassel, very hardly tho, but anything else no
flint iris
In some other spots too, but without ld is just much easier
drifting pebble
I would like to join some people for dark hours to get an eagle bearer, but I haven't done the raid before and I don't really know where to start. I would like some pointers maybe
devout kite
Man i hate myself so bad for deconstructing ebr when i got back after i got wony
devout kite
Now i've been farming dh for ages and not a single ebr
faint igloo
@drifting pebble I asked that very question about 20 mins ago, scroll up. @devout kite gave good advice.
drifting pebble
thanks, will take a look
devout kite
@flint iris i for sum reason thought i can make it at the bench after i got it the first time xd
Now i need to farm it again
Ironicly i got the ravenous on my first ih run at the first boss
faint igloo
I got Bighorn on my like 3rd legendary. I was very shocked...
flint iris
XD lmao
faint igloo
Exactly that which is why im so damn happy. I enjoy Legendary missions but the amount of times I matchmade into a group where there were 3 people dead in the water was insane.
flint iris
What about for Roosevelt?
devout kite
I mean if i wanna do a legendary i just run district union coz for me it is the most fun and also kinda easier, roosevelt island is cancer
faint igloo
Roosevelt I did once. last boss is agony aha. I didnt District union twice and got it
devout kite
Also capitol building is kinda cancer too
drifting pebble
capitol is the worst when no one goes after the medic box
devout kite
Capitol is shit at the last part just because u have no safe spot at all and npcs just rush u
And also the fact that there are medics with boxes
And those medics can also revive other npcs
Fuck off
flint iris
What about the tent
faint igloo
Roosevelt with the flying things is AWFUL.
devout kite
Only 2 peps can get there and it is a bad spot
drifting pebble
the tent is where most people sit until it's somewhat clear and then one or two rush out to get the medic boxes down
it's kinda stupid but it works somewhat, not really efficiently
devout kite
District union is the best tbh, even tho i think it is the longest
Of the 3
Imagine if they added legendary to manning zoo
That would be atrocious to do
drifting pebble
if they did that, would the mortar shells just instantly teleport into your backpack and explode you?
devout kite
Xd
I mean cant be worse than weassel in dh with his 2 cunts big mobs having miniguns and also being able to spam grenade launchers
I swear these guys are annoying, it doesnt make any sense a minigun and also a grenade launcher spam
cinder pilot
Hey guys, just want to make this clear: if you open the raid chest multiple times in one week, does the 10% exotic drop chance exist for each attempt? Or just the first one?
flint iris
Every attempt
drifting pebble
is discovery mode useful to learn the map a bit?
it has all the bosses but not all the mechanics, right?
dapper gyro
Yes, to get some very basic idea, but its better to watch some runs afterwards from different perspectives if possible.
uneven dagger
Aside from doing storymode lfr how does one actually get into their first raids?
proven musk
discord lfr praying you find a team that's okay with you coming along, something like that. also it'll help to look up the encounters so you have an idea of what each fight is like
or find a clan that runs raids regularly and teaches them
tender hollow
@uneven dagger ^ in #lfg-raid-pc for PC players join a LFM raid voice group that doesn't specify experience/exp required. Let people know that you are new, that way the leader can explain to you what you will need to do. + watch youtube guides in preparation.
narrow dirge
hey is there anyway to change the raid voice channel server? it's on eu-central and I can't hear my teammates
vast vector
Just finished up another IH raid. During the 3rd boss, saw someone type in chat "RY 7/5" or something iirc. I realized its for the gears in 2nd phase, but I never seen it b4; usually someone below is telling the person above when to stop turning. What does this code mean? Also, wouldn't it be easier to say black cup/white cup instead of empty/fill? And does anyone know how to fix the loot box being bugged in the end? It never glows for me to open. This also happens in DH. I always have to exit the game and hope that someone can stick around for me to boot the game back up.
brisk cave
My friend and i are wanting to try the raids but can never seem to get in a experience group to learn the mechanics
weary niche
Those things are pretty simple to count quarter Is 3 and half is 6, if you want speed then 3 guys gonna count them fast and you will do those clock things like in 5-10 seconds usually
weary niche
btw does anyone have a layout of the first boss part?
tender hollow
Ads come out left door up top, below that too, out that warehouse to the right, up top right through that door and out of the doors the shielders come out from
weary niche
I need layout, me and my team are able to do ads below 1:10 and I know all the spawns etc, I just wanna do like picture tutorial for my discord, so I can teach them to speedrun etc
cinder pilot
Best flow I would recommend from finishing WONY to doing raids:
Before hand: Make sure you can handle global Heroic difficulty for both open world and missions. This is the tip of the iceberg
- Do Legendary missions. Mission objectives and maps are familiar, just need maximized builds (which will help you in raids). Matchmaking is easier and digestible. Potential meeting place for people wanting to do raids (as well as other newcomers)
- Do Dark Hours. This raid is comparatively quite simple, and most encounters call for a simple DPS check (which you should have had for Legendary anyway)
- Do Iron Horse. This raid requires more builds at hand due to more complex mechanics. Try to have some patient experienced people to teach mechanics. They ARE out there, but you have to meet them halfway.
Best group resource for raids I’ve seen are both Central chat and LFG channels here. Just make sure you have the spare time for wipes and mistakes. Odds are they will happen.
narrow dirge
@vast vector you can do the cogs/gears solo if you just listen for the "clunk" when you reach the end. It's very distinctive as long as folks aren't too loud over comms.
vast vector
but to hear the clunk you have to let go of the wheel, right? If you hold onto the wheel it will just keep spinning
narrow dirge
I do short presses... I never do the hold down completely...
vast vector
wouldn't that take longer to constantly hit the key. Maybe that's what that player was doing. Idk.
vagrant wing
@vast vector in regards to your question - it's a speed run start when more then one person do the cogs at once (causing the click sound to override each other). R/Y 75 means the cogs at red-yellow right cog need to be turned 7 times and the left 5 (note i switched the order, cause when you're up on the 2nd floor you look at the cogs from anothe angle)
You can do it with short presses or hold it down and listen to the clicking sound - it doesn't makes much difference and always faster then listening to the ppl downstairs (especially if more then one person doing it)
vast vector
And any thoughts on why refer the cups as empty/full instead of black/white?
devout kite
prob this was the first thing the community came up with and after everybody using these terms for so long they got used to it
i mean i cant imagine someone saying now: black cup or white cup on a hook
vagrant wing
And any thoughts on why refer the cups as empty/full instead of black/white?
I don't see how it matters really. I guess it's a preference thing
i mean i cant imagine someone saying now: black cup or white cup on a hook
There're groups using these term btw
vast vector
I just asked cause every group I've joined always says empty/full and to me it just never made sense why or who would come up with this distinction when saying black/white is so much clearer and one less thing to have to learn about.
vagrant wing
again, your preference 🙂
I guess the majority think otherwise. If you're the one at the control room and using these terms most ppl will know what you mean without any problem
dapper gyro
Or maybe because the cups aren't white and black, only the top is, so could be misleading as well 🤭 ;)
digital musk
Any tips on beating the Major Williams boss on IH?
flint iris
At the final part, tell your team to shoot his backpack
Most groupies I lfg in don’t finish it cause no one shoots the backpack so he keeps healing
digital musk
I’m LFG on IH, tryna get Ravenous Drops, the first and last boss I’m exp I know what to do at the top level and mid level for the pressure and burn, elec. just not the lowest level where u gotta shoot the circles
flint iris
@digital musk use #lfg-raid-pc
tender hollow
Any tips on beating the Major Williams boss on IH?
@digital musk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BVd_MfmM1A tips
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAtJphLril4 16 min guide followed by live action guide
verbal mist
Foam him off the turret . Make sure your dps hits his bp and survivalist guy throws fire grenade .
night scaffold
Can anyone help me and @tender hollow in the dark hours raid
ripe mist
@humble spire I’m sorry bro, my power went out completely. Using my phone rn to type this
stoic portal
lost lantern
i have a question so i have got all the bulwark foundry stuff and future thingy, now it gave me the exotic pistol project do i have to wait till raid reset to attempt to get parts or do i just do a clean fresh raid in same week
vagrant wing
@lost lantern Yeah. Each boss will drop an exotic part for you if it's the first clear of the week, so yeah - you'll have to wait for Tuesday. The only exception is the last part (guaranteed drop from the box at the end)
lost lantern
ok cheers Adler
dusty night
Looking for a team to do IH with, Cons: (1) Level 30, 506 & Haven never finished. Pros: I listen and have a MIC
flint iris
@dusty night use #lfg-raid-console
Guys please remember to use the right channels for your raid lfgs.
PC: #lfg-raid-pc
Ps4: #lfg-raid-console
Xbox: #578577794561474571
unique shoal
anyone interested in speedrunning IH, Uk times, english speakers?
im looking to put togther a mix of exp speedrunners and newbs to the speedrun scene but must be willing to put time for builds (PC)
flint iris
Use the lfg channels
zenith pier
guys i need you to help me out whit the raid
uncut crypt
thoughts on striker 4 piece with coyote and obliterate/unbreakable for raids>
queen peak
It will work but generally green gear sets have 1 slot less compared to yellow gear. We finished DH with 2 level 30 Agents who we used as grenade chuckers in razorback.
flint iris
Striker isn’t really that good, but raids can make an exception, for big bosses like the train it can work well, but avoid it if you can
tender hollow
Honestly I hate it when someone messes it up then blames everyone else. Was on 3rd boss and said leave turret alone. Nope one guy messed it up then said everyone should be on 2nd floor
vast vector
You should kill the turrets w/ the weakpoints in the upper lvl that the boss uses during 2nd/3rd phase. And I would consider 2nd floor as the floor with the blue pipes, so during the boss fight it would ideal for everyone to be on the 2nd floor so that way you aren't getting stuck by the boss' foam seekers.
uncut crypt
Honestly I hate it when someone messes it up then blames everyone else. Was on 3rd boss and said leave turret alone. Nope one guy messed it up then said everyone should be on 2nd floor
@tender hollow You aint the only one my friend, i've hosted a fair share of raids (mostly DH), We tend to get a mix of semi experience to experienced raiders, usually im fine with inexperience cause they can learn and get better, but there are some obnoxious and pompous vet raiders who'd shit on people just cause they are "superior" or "seasoned" players with probably god rolled equipments. I'd force kick them were they to be wayy too douche
verbal mist
I run emp and foam on boss 3
First and second set of seekers I pop and then we go to second floor
weary niche
Demolitionist firefly is good at third, you foam and use firefly and insta kill him before he jumps sown
Down*
thorn plinth
is there anybody doing dark hours raid anymore ??
flint iris
@thorn plinth use the lfg channels
thorn plinth
thats a real question bro i been trying to find a raid for 2 days 😦
flint iris
I see lots of people doing them
And if no one is hosting one, why not start one yourself?
thorn plinth
i have no friends in this gfame, sad to say but
flint iris
That’s what the lfg channels are for
thorn plinth
Yes but the past couple days i wasnt able to find more than 1 guys who left
young idol
Anyone willing to help me run IH raid? I joined a team on the 4th boss and we completed it but have never done a fresh run. I’m SHD level 1180, I play this game anywhere from 5 to 8 hrs a day (99% of the time is solo) I’m in a very small clan that isn’t very active at all, just needing to find some people that are willing to help out, I don’t need to be carried I can hold my own, just need to be pointed in the right direction as far as doing the new raid.
verbal mist
@young idol we need one sometimes . We run 3-4 times a week . Add me my GT is same as discord
meager pasture
@lilac lagoon what is your timezone? You are always doing the flawless run so early that I cannot join you 🙂
weary niche
@lament dragon how experienced you guys yourself are?
wraith geyser
What specific Builds do I need for raids in general
gleaming shard
You want a solid DPS build. Both raids require it for most roles. The other roles are a mix between tanks, healer and in some cases depending upon which raid and the raid methods they use, a Hazard build, CC, and Hardwire. But bottom line is a good, DPS build.
Also, if you're new to raids, to avoid being a liability, you do not want to run glass cannon in your DPS build and you will want to have reviver hive on as one of your skills.
verbal mist
I find we’re always looking for hazard build , tank or healer or cc . Most already have dps but for simplicity sakes a good dps will get yourself a spot
wraith geyser
Healer Build I already have
What dps should I look for (number amount on ar)
and for lady death
gleaming shard
it's not about a specific number. It depends on your play style. Tailor your build to be almost all, or all reds. Try to keep your crit hit chance close to 60% (that's the cap), and go for damage out of cover, damage to health, weapon damage... and put the rest to crit damage (or headshot if that's how you play). Unbreakable and Vigilance are good armor and backpack talents for the raid dps people.
vagrant wing
Healer Build I already have
@wraith geyser most raid groups looking for future initiative build - which i assume you don't have yet (since you havn't done the raid quite yet)
I'd say the easiest build to set (beside dps) is a Tank (with fire immunity). As long as you reach above 91% of fire resistance with all blues you're good (hint: the demo spec will give you 20% fire resistance).
As for red builds - you can look up any "meta" dps build and it should do the job
vagrant wing
Oh last thing - i won't recommend using the Lady death on the raids. At least until you get some exp as to where the adds spawn
verbal mist
Personally I’d ditch the ld and go for a rifle and ar for dps raid . @wraith geyser
warped violet
I’ve come to dislike using rifles
sacred stone
did they fix negotiators dilemma in the IH raid ?
late scarab
there was something about in the patch notes, but I never attempted to confirm it
maybe 2-3 weeks ago
quasi hare
what level do i have to be to do the raid
celest nebula
either lv30 WT5 GS495 minimum, or lv40 with a decent build to boot
quasi hare
k cause i wanna do one but ive never did it and im level 40
marsh folio
Anyone doing raids ? Need a group
valid marlin
@marsh folio Use #578577794561474571
tender hollow
3rd boss at alphabet phase if you have 2 guys up top (one says increase x and other says decrease y) and have 2 down stairs increasing or decreasing. You’ll save roughly 15 secs compared to one guy saying increase and decrease and one guy downstairs doing it
lusty ledge
in dh last boss, how much is the HP of drones? thank you.
velvet folio
Not sure have about 70 skill damage and you should be good
uncut crypt
question
if u dont pick up your keys on your first DH attempt, can u pick em on your 2nd?
tranquil flume
@uncut crypt yes
verbal mist
@lusty ledge last dh I ran a week ago 70 didn’t kill the drones .
flint iris
It was like 85 skill dmg
uneven garden
Idk if demo spec matters. If I run 4pc HW 1 pc Wyvern and BTSU, sometimes kills sometime doesn’t
icy hull
it shouldnt matter because iirc, EMP doesnt get buffed by DTOOC nor explosive damage of demo. it would get buffed by Tech though.
uneven garden
yeah that I don’t understand. I ran three back to back yesterday, it worked in two runs. Same build only a few ppl changed
tender hollow
Alder says its 82 if you have tech ~84.2. A demo will give you +5 DOOC. They need to be in the same group as you.~~ If you are using Survivalist I think you need ~90 with a demo.~~~~ I just run with tech and if there aren't two people with xbow, you gotta decide if you want to do a 10-20 phase razorback or not.~~ [corrections based on feedback from others]
There are other bonus like overwatch, glass canon, in sync. etc.
vagrant wing
It's actually above ~80 without tech. They changed something along the patches
uneven garden
yup if I run tech, BTSU no problem
tender hollow
oh have they lowered it?
vagrant wing
Yeah. 1 sec i'll give you an exact number
uneven garden
thank you sir
tender hollow
Nice. If you can run survivalist its heaps easier too. shoot xbow immediately then pulse immediately
vagrant wing
So my build has 84.2 skill dmg (including the watch). I'm running survivalist and it works just fine. That's the reason behind me saying above ~80
tender hollow
@vagrant wing is there a demolitionist in your group?
vagrant wing
No
tender hollow
Awesome 👍
You can test in Discovery. Usually they are stuck at the last boss so you just join them and help out.
uneven garden
Often times only the first wave has issue. 2nd and after HW LOOP proc gives 25% dmg boost
oh does discovery has a Checkpoint? @tender hollow
tender hollow
yeah it also has checkpoints. so you can test with 1 or 2 mates as you don't need to do circles all at the same time
vagrant wing
https://imgur.com/a/KJHVU27 So here's the build if anyone wants... And thx to @west spruce for his idea
This particular build has 95% skill dmg - but i have a different one with 84% and it works just fine
No need to proc overwatch to kill the drones. It's there to boost the team
lucid adder
Wow nice build @west spruce
west spruce
I have another one that incorporates BTSU which is safer for revive hive refresh for teammates. https://imgur.com/FSsXLrp
lucid adder
Waaaaow
glossy blaze
@west spruce as expected from the godliest player
vapid nebula
autumn turret
cause Iron horse is the new shit
uneven garden
Thanks for sharing @west spruce . How does kinetic work?
I’ve never tied this talent but have seen other ppl using a same build
flint iris
@vapid nebula use the raid lfg channels
@uneven garden Kenetic works by increasing dmg whilein combat
I don’t recemmend using it, your skill dmg is high enough without it, I use skilled instead
It allows for easier resets
vagrant wing
You don't need it. You can use any talent instead
uneven garden
Without kinetic that build would give 85% skill dmg like you suggests that should be enough?
vagrant wing
Yep. As i said, i have a build with 84% and it's work just fine
radiant onyx
How do i know im raid ready?
verbal mist
i wonder if i shoot razor with in sync and then pulse if it woud work ? havent tried that
like he said above. it works sometimes and then it doesnt. i run survivalist , 4 hw, wyvern chest with skilled
mine is 70 percent with watch. 4 hw with 10, one wyvern with 10 and the 10 you get bonus plus watch
if i run glass cannon it kills them instantly
vagrant wing
hmmm... you have 85% that weird
Are you charging your pulse all the way?
How do i know im raid ready?
@radiant onyx Just try it? If you can manage heroic global difficulty and have a good build - it's a good indicator
radiant onyx
@vagrant wing Thank for the info 🙂
woven cosmos
Can anyone tell me what rv means in raid lfg?
flint iris
Raid voice
icy hull
"Raid voice channel #"
flint iris
The channels below
woven cosmos
Ahh, thx
radiant onyx
Is there any way to get that "guardian" mode off im trying to see if im raid ready
Nvm i figured it out aha
smoky tapir
^, you could have the top of the line build, best stats, best gun and NOT be raid ready if you don't know whats going on with the fights
scenic cape
question is there a point of doing a raid again if you've claimed the rewards and are on cooldown
late scarab
For fun. To beat your previous time. To teach others.
flint iris
^
smoky tapir
Well the final boss will always drop a key for the chest at the end
glad shadow
LFG of 3-4 players with legit IH completions to add to a team for weekly raids. DM if interested (PS4 Only-EST)
icy hull
Wrong channel, use raid lfg @glad shadow
glad shadow
@icy hull Ok thanks
uneven garden
Tried the drone build, 85% skill dmg, and it didn’t kill. Switching out BTSU for another 10% skill dmg, it worked.......
lunar hull
What's the3 exact damage a raid elite can take?
smoky tapir
dont think anyone has actually found out their exact health yet. for one, it would be different depending on the type
lunar hull
Let's assume a normal black tusk elite
tender hollow
Tried the drone build, 85% skill dmg, and it didn’t kill. Switching out BTSU for another 10% skill dmg, it worked.......
@uneven garden you can maybe trigger HW feedback loop earlier.
I use a non HW Technician build, with BTSU, overwatch and opportunistic and I can leave my hive on the ground all the time. Cooldown is 11.6s even with 5.1% off max skill haste, so it can go a bit lower.
lunar hull
If it ain't killing you can cause it to kill via the vile
radiant ocean
So i really want to learn to do Iron Horse so i can farm for the Ravenous, and i was wondering how long itll probs take to learn the raid so i can do some arrangements to have time
uneven garden
@tender hollow does the global difficulty affect this? Ppl saying need to change it to normal I’ve always been on heroic
tender hollow
@tender hollow does the global difficulty affect this? Ppl saying need to change it to normal I’ve always been on heroic
@uneven garden I don't think so. People have done testing and said difficulty doesn't affect things.
smoky tapir
global difficulty doesn't affect the raid
fallen epoch
Raid is always heroic, no changes...
dusty night
raids are heroic? That explains a lot!
tender hollow
I am putting together a speed run team for DH and IH we are a grp of people that have experience in both and some of us have speed run times either on PC or Console. We are looking for other willing to commit to the team and work as a team to achieve the goal. If you are wanting to learn thats fine to we will teach the tactics and help you with speed run builds as well. Please shoot me a DM if your interested and i will get you into the speed run server. This is for PC by the way
radiant onyx
What is the like Recommended/Minimum to be raid ready?
icy hull
id say 50% chc, ~150 chd and 100% weapon damage. @radiant onyx
tender hollow
can I farm for eagle bearer or do I need to wait for the weekly reset after doing the raid
flint iris
You can farm for it
@radiant onyx again, those are just numbers to be “raid ready”
You need way more than just numbers
You can have the highest chd and max chc and still drag your team down
Study the encounters and watch videos to learn mechnics
@devout kite it’s def not challenging from the hp levels of the enemies, heroic at a minimum
modern jetty
Hey guys,can anyone confirm that boss no2 iron horse bug or not, I'm fully hazard 100 % and Armor regen also stacking Armor from ravenous(another buff vanguard team) but fast take health damage instead Armor?
vagrant wing
Are you standing on the metal floor when you take dmg or on the dirt?
modern jetty
@vagrant wing metal floor sir
vagrant wing
Hmm don't know then. Sorry. I never took direct health dmg in the situation you describing
long ridge
4 para morozova Xbox
weary niche
@modern jetty how long you where in?
vagrant wing
I don't think it's matters. Even at full stacks you don't take direct health dmg. It's eating through your armor first
shell sonnet
Anyone up for the IH raid?
weary niche
Co2 is constantly rising there tho
Myself I run that and I always survive easily, but I think if that run actually takes like 10+min you will die
Ohh I can't show my build..... :/
vagrant wing
Upload it on imgur if you want to show it and post the link here @weary niche . But honestly - i don't think that 10 min timer is true
weary niche
I mean I have died almost instantly too inside room when it ate my health, but it was on a really casual run and that thing was 8+min in
vagrant wing
@tender hollow @uneven garden Looks like i was a bit wrong or the game playing with me. I tested my 84% build on discovery and for some reason - some waves did get one shotted, some don't. When i procced overwatch - every wave got one shotted but without it - it's a bit funky. Sorry about that...
uneven garden
Thanks for the info man @vagrant wing. I am pretty sure 85% is not enough for me. But I saw others less than 85% and no issue so it’s really confusing
overmatch can pro for the 1st wave how about the 2nd/3rd. you’d have to stay in cover for 10s to proc?
vagrant wing
You can stay in cover through the entire dmg phase
uneven garden
Oic. I typically move to the dmg side so ppl can get some heal
I guess for me I’d have to switch out BTSU. If need to reset hive I will manual switch which is pretty tight for speed run
west spruce
2nd/3rd wave of drones usually won't be a problem, as you will have procced HW feedback loop for additional skill dmg there.
For me Kinetic Momentum is preferred over Overwatch as I don't have to stay in cover or do cover-to-cover to maintain the effect.
vagrant wing
I guess for me I’d have to switch out BTSU. If need to reset hive I will manual switch which is pretty tight for speed run
@uneven garden If you're doing speeds have one of your sub group play as demo and you're good