#td2-raid-discussions

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flint iris
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Hmm

normal mirage
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division agents don't question why, we just go 'famas go brrrrt'

twilit steeple
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Hi Guys, me and my friend searching for players to raid with..
any suggestions ?

native copper
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Yeah, down in lfg-raid-pc

twilit steeple
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ok.. cool, thanks

native copper
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Good luck.

tender hollow
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Any tips on shooting Boomer's backpack? Some people nails it with the first 10 bullets but Im struggling to get him down altho he's right in front of me and im shooting his backpack?
@pseudo rivet the weakpoint is the small red box above the purple cylinder on his back
for randoms, I think an extra dps is better than a CC for boss 3, dunno about what they do in speed runs
also go up to the 2nd or 3rd floor, because if he aggros on you, and your in a bad position, everyone else cant shoot his weakpoint and the group is screwed
Ive done it with just 7 randoms total in the group, so if your failing at this stage, its because the strategy used is flawed. like the tank deciding not to do anything (the tank should try to aggro the boss so that the weakpoint faces everyone), or the healer deciding to heal on the ground floor and dying, or some dps on the ground or 1st floor pulling aggro and then no one can shoot his weakpoint

verbal mist
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The train was on its way and we de railed it . When you get the key you actually hit the lever . Then we fight her

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@tender hollow I’m not sure if it still applies but weapons damage on you char used to matter on downing him quicker

tender hollow
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^ yes people say its not a dps check, but the higher your dps the easier everything is. if you have an all star DPS team, any strategy will work on any boss

drowsy totem
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^

vagrant wing
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@pseudo rivet the weakpoint is the small red box above the purple cylinder on his back
for randoms, I think an extra dps is better than a CC for boss 3, dunno about what they do in speed runs
also go up to the 2nd or 3rd floor, because if he aggros on you, and your in a bad position, everyone else cant shoot his weakpoint and the group is screwed
Ive done it with just 7 randoms total in the group, so if your failing at this stage, its because the strategy used is flawed. like the tank deciding not to do anything (the tank should try to aggro the boss so that the weakpoint faces everyone), or the healer deciding to heal on the ground floor and dying, or some dps on the ground or 1st floor pulling aggro and then no one can shoot his weakpoint
@tender hollow I thought he asked about Boomer the 1st boss in DH?

tender hollow
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opps. it used to be ~~weapons damage ~~ the more dps meant you do more damage to the backpack. maybe its still the same now. I assume you are shooting the backpack with the minigun because only that works

vagrant wing
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Pretty sure chc & chd affect it too but i might be wrong. Havn't done DH for so long

hushed kiln
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@tender hollow your CHC and CHD apply to the turrets in Dark Hours too? Didn't know that

vagrant wing
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It was, yeah. I'm not sure if they removed it or not

warped violet
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Does the raid exotic always have a 1% chance at dropping for a boss

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Or is it only once per week

vagrant wing
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It's once per week, and it's way less then 1% (the 1% change is for 'an' exotic. Any exotic)

warped violet
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Ah

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Thought I got rav from grey but it was just a lady death

summer girder
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When you are solo healing in the control room for the water phase, do you let the tank in before or after calling for water

echo vector
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I've successfully let the tank in after sending the water down. There is enough time for the tank to get over there

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It's kinda tight though. Definitely won't work if you flip teh lever above 85 (it'll still let you even though you want 80-85) because when you do so it drops the pressure more than when you flip it at 80-85

tender hollow
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Pretty sure chc & chd affect it too but i might be wrong. Havn't done DH for so long
@vagrant wing nah chc n chd don't effect boomer turrets, found out last night future initiative does tho

tender hollow
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hi

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where can i find a team to do iron horse raid

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im new here

timber rune
tender hollow
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I dont understand, how do i join someone?

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Do i dm them?

hushed kiln
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@ them, DM them, join the voice channel, then give them your UPlay

flint iris
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And use the proper channels please 👀

opaque geode
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jaz

loud arrow
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How hard is DH on normal Like what difficulty?

vagrant wing
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You can't compare that to anything. The challenge come from coordination not so much the dmg. After saying that the NPCs are equivalent roughly to heroic NPCs with slightly more health. The bosses are a different story. Again - i can't stress it enough - the challenge comes from coordination (especially if you havn't done it before). 1 man cannot carry a raid 5-6 men maybe if they're good. Hope it answer your question @loud arrow

loud arrow
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Yeah i was just looking for the dmg they do or the dmg they take

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How tuff the enemys are

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I know the cordination depends on the raid team but just the difficulty of the enemies

vagrant wing
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So as i said roughly heroic (They have somewhat more health and dmg then heroic NPCs due to the scaling system - scaling towards 8 players)

loud arrow
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Yeah

echo vector
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For flawless IH runs, can you still go soft down? Or you can't go down at all

vagrant wing
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You can't get unconscious

prisma falcon
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LFG Dark hours raid on Razorback I’m trying to get the eagle bearer

flint iris
soft wedge
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Do you only get one chance at an eagle bearer a week or is it farmable?

flint iris
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It’s farmable

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As long as you have the keys for it

soft wedge
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👍 ty

nova sleet
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looking too do raid

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on pc

flint iris
celest nebula
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how many shots has it been ben lol

flint iris
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Not enough lol

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There’s always gonna be more

hushed kiln
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@loud arrow the NPCs are actually quite weak. They are about Challenging NPCs or a bit higher. They are NOT Heroic level. Problem is Raids have funny cover and you can essily find yourself exposed.

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The main problem is that even though NPCs are weak, each person's role requires them to be at a different place. Without the full firepower of even 3 people, one guy can easily get overwhelmed.

loud arrow
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So i havent done the raid in normal only in Discovery

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Do u think people without fully maxed god roll stats and have really scuffed builds would be able to do it if they work together?

weary niche
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@loud arrow easily if you know what to do

loud arrow
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does any mechanics change from discovery to normal

weary niche
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Sadly I don't know, haven't done discovery

flint iris
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Yes they do

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Major mechnics aren’t shown in discovery

loud arrow
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Like i want to start doing normal DH and legendary missions but we are just dying fast on legendary and havent had 8 people for raid

flint iris
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And odh is really just a dps check

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Without high dps, you’re not gonna get very far

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If you’re dying fast on legs maybe it’s time to make and farm gears for new builds

loud arrow
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rn we have a tank with true patriot build

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Me and one other with AR

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One with lmg

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We recently did switch one person to go riot foam

flint iris
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For dh?

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That’s not needed at all

loud arrow
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no for legendarues

flint iris
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Oh

loud arrow
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We dont know what to do for riad

flint iris
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Easiest with 4 skill builds

tender hollow
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Speaking of skill builds, Vile flame seems to be working its way into a raid comp now.

weary niche
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Eclipse is good on IH

flint iris
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Well

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Yes and no

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Boss 3, definitely

tender hollow
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i havent ran IH yet :/ No group

weary niche
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You can spawn kill almost half npc-s on pre rooms

flint iris
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The other ones not so sure

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Mhm

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Very true

weary niche
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Boss rooms itself not so good probably 😂

flint iris
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Yeah lol

loud arrow
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Is IH harder in terms of I need good gear to do? Or is it like DH?

flint iris
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No

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Wayyy harder

loud arrow
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Ok

flint iris
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More mechnics heavy

tender hollow
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IH is more team communication based.

flint iris
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You need to know what to do

loud arrow
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So not gear based just mechanically?

flint iris
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For some areas, If anyone messes up, it’s a wipe

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No

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Heavily gear based too

tender hollow
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Furnace.mp4

flint iris
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^

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And morozova

tender hollow
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Ah right, the minispam.

flint iris
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If your tank doesn’t do a good job a staggering , then all your team is gone at the end

tender hollow
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2.2mil tarde/bulwark seems to work.

flint iris
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That’s not what I mean

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Staggering as in with explosives, merciless, or ravenous

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Or else her mini wipe mechnic is going to happen

low robin
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Nah
U can survive with vanguard bonus armor

tender hollow
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Rav is locked to IH yeah? I run mk17 crit with intim/matador, its lack luster.

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kinda looking for a better build.

low robin
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Rav is better than m1a

flint iris
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You can, but why waste it on that

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Also that’s very situational

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When rav is better than m1a

low robin
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Uh

flint iris
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In some cases, yes, far better, in some, not so much

low robin
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Its easier coz body shots are ez

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And i dont rely on headshots

flint iris
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And shoulder switching is not always reliable

low robin
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Its easy on pc

flint iris
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You’re on pc?

low robin
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No

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But i use mouse and keyboard

flint iris
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Ah

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Wow

low robin
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With xim apex

flint iris
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Mnk on ps4

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👌

echo vector
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Yeah you can't use side cover effectively with the ravenous. Nor can you effectively use a shield

flint iris
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And it’s way easier hitting shots with m1a further away

loud arrow
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What are ur opinions on Chameleon

tender hollow
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Garbage.

flint iris
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Good when built right

echo vector
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Yeah partly because of the lack of scope but more because the double shot means the two bullets land to the left and right of where you're actually aiming

flint iris
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Yes

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M1a is more reliant on cover and the use of a shield

tender hollow
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Claws+Lady+Intim/Mata?

low robin
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But rav gives 80% armor on kill

flint iris
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While rav can be use in a “run and gun” playstyle

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No not on kill

loud arrow
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Whats claw?

flint iris
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And it’s bonus armour

echo vector
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claws out

flint iris
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@loud arrow names wyvern

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It’s not meta

low robin
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Ikr

echo vector
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Yeah if it were straight armor not bonus armor that'd be ridiculously OP

flint iris
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If you can’t melee, you’re useless pretty much

loud arrow
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Rn im running Providance Walker and czevka

tender hollow
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Ehh. bulwark liberty its good with punch.

loud arrow
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With Chameleon and M1A

low robin
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If u keep killing npcs u will be constantly getting bonus armor

flint iris
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Assuming you kill on left shoulder

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Which doesn’t do extra dmg

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And it’s only for 5 seconds

echo vector
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You don't need kills, you just need to build stacks from left shoulder and then hit once from right

low robin
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It does more bodyshot dmg than m1a

flint iris
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What makes rav special is the 2 bullets at once, staggering, and armourbolate dmg

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That’s not true

echo vector
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But yeah when it only lasts 5 seconds it is nice but not substantial

flint iris
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Rav can’t crit for 3.5 million

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Or even 4

low robin
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Uh

flint iris
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But yeah when it only lasts 5 seconds it is nice but not substantial
Yeah this is true

low robin
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Yeah

flint iris
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So let’s say this

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Each one of them is good and unique in their own way

low robin
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Ye

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Rav has more fire rate

flint iris
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Uhhuh

timber rune
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I've been running ravenous on heroics and legendaries, although I heal my group on legendaries so I mostly just use it for supplemental damage and breaking chungus and dogs there.

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Yeah, it doesn't make sense in a smaller group because the FI damage bonus is less efficient than having an extra person at that scale. When we run in a four group, with the FI chest that's +25% damage for everyone, so close to four people's damage from the three others, plus the healer helps recover from sticky situations and overcharge periodically with BTSU gloves.

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Plus I just like healing so that's what I decide to run lol.

shell otter
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Rav can't crit for 3 mil a shot but eith high crit without glasscannon ive had it hit 750k, that with it being two shots is 1.5 mil a shot (because its double barreled) and on five shots I've had it hit over 12 mil on red stacks, thats some insane damage, when out to use on DH its a beast, giving someone's healing you and ads control in there, you can pretty much face tank weasel and co with it

tender hollow
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Ravenous offensive primers use weapon damage. Higher weapon damage the higher armor/ health damage it does. Defensive primers can be used on any kind of build.

low robin
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Using yaahl, walker harris and hana u would maximize the primer damage

shell otter
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I use 1 walker, 2 prov, 1 fenris, 1 grupo and 1 foxes and highest with that build i get is 11 mil, i lose damage the more i play around with stuff

native copper
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Nothing funnier than a key farm where the Iron Horse fires. Newbies coming into a farm without a clue thinking it's an easy Ravenous. Morons.

flint iris
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Bro what would you use Hana u lmao?

tame pawn
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For the 3pc 5% weapon damage bonus 🤔

flint iris
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Useless

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You’re wasting other dmg bonuses

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And how perfect if a roll would you need to get that?

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Never use hanau in a dps build

tame pawn
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Yeah, running 3 pc hana U for dps is a meme

echo vector
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I saw a dude with 5 Hana U and an Acosta's go bag the other day. Wtf?

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Asked about it and they said "It's the way I like to play"

tender hollow
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I just beat IH and got the exotic from it but accidentally deconstructed it

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._.

smoky tapir
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rav or reg?, rip

tender hollow
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Rav

fossil pendant
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F

echo vector
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🤦‍♂️

smoky tapir
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F for respects

echo vector
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Dude, favorite that shit

tender hollow
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Wait no it was both

smoky tapir
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at least reg can be gotten again next week, rav your at the mercy of rng again

echo vector
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I mean deconstructing Regulus is obviously not ideal but not that big a deal

tender hollow
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I’m use to deconstructing everything cuz nothing I get is useful

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Now I have to wait a week

echo vector
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Wait did you deconstruct before picking the stuff up?

tender hollow
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Yup

echo vector
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By "a week" you mean one day since it resets tomorrow

smoky tapir
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true 😛

tender hollow
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Oh lol

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At like 7am for me

smoky tapir
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being logical is not allowed here

tender hollow
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I thought I had a D50 but it was a 1911

tender hollow
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How did you pick up a regulus..... You have to craft it @tender hollow

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I had already got it but it disappeared from my inventory

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I’ve made a DH raid but I got no-one to do it with

normal mirage
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gotta start using the favourite feature more 😛 @tender hollow

celest socket
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@tender hollow there’s 2 of us that wants to do the DH raid if ur still trying to do it

tender hollow
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Later

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U mean reg from raid

shell otter
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You cant get the regulus from the raid, the parts yes, you have to craft it

tender hollow
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I did craft it but it disappeared from my inventory

flint iris
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@celest socket he’s on pc, you’re on ps4

celest socket
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@flint iris thanks for letting me know😂

flint iris
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Np lol

shell otter
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Could do with some help getting the FB backpack if anyone can, have 3 clears, healer build, have the ravenous, had my keys for the week and already had the boss drops, finished the FI projects for the blueprints, and just need the fb bp to get the ball rolling, on xbox, thanks

flint iris
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Also wow 3 clears and rav already

shell otter
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Only need 2 more clears for the reg

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@flint iris OK did post there too

flint iris
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Wow nice

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I opened 8 boxes already :/

shell otter
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Its gutting tbh on my last run I got 4 FI chest pieces

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Just need that FB back pack!!

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You get lucky in one way then unlucky in the other

warped violet
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Jokes on you, you can be unlucky in literally every way

shell otter
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I needed one then to complete the fi project not 4 thou 🤣🤣

tame sky
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I think I’ve used my RNG for the year. 3 Ravenous in 6 boxes opened

flint iris
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Wowza

normal mirage
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you should buy a lottery ticket

proven musk
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nah he used up his luck

hallow shoal
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Anyone help with the raids? My current clan refuses to even try and I want to learn. DPS build currently. usstrogdor on ps4

warm stream
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doing the IH a second time today... why the key boxes are open already?

vagrant wing
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@warm stream the 4 keys (from the boxes) can only be obtained one per week. The boxes reset every Tuesday at 0900 GMT/UTC

warm stream
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Thanks, @vagrant wing ... that sucks though )

vagrant wing
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It is what it is 🙂
You can farm keys tho by doing the raid/just the last boss. The 5th key is guaranteed after defeating her

warm stream
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I see... thanks for the explanation, man 😉

vagrant wing
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yw

echo vector
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once per week per character for the raid key boxes

low robin
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why are most people stuck at boss 3

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I think room 2 is harder than room3

native copper
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They're both complicated in their own ways.

celest nebula
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room 2 you can be exhausted of revive kits for your tank

native copper
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Fieser requires people to be more spread out.

Williams lets more DPS players group up, but there's more moving around for everyone involved.

celest nebula
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or overwhelmed by ads

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room 3 is definetly ads and since william has locking foam

native copper
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And the Pressure mechanic. It's essentially a wipe timer

celest nebula
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oh yeah also the purging phase

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not the initial presure control, but the purge where people has to simultaneously break the barrier

glad shadow
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Jusr Ran With My Boy Team And We Skipped The Fire Phase 😄

limber linden
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I heard from a party I ran with that Negotiator's Dilemma glitches out Iron Horse. But I can't find any hint of this in any forum or youtube. Can anyone confirm on their own experience?

flint iris
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@limber linden guess you didn’t hear about “The Great Pingening” but yes its true

timber rune
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Don't use ND on iron horse.

normal mirage
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I think they are fixing it in the next coming maintenance patch.

flint iris
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Which is today

tender hollow
hollow pawn
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forreal the servers shutdown at the last second dpsing the boss i love ubi ❤️

tender hollow
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😄

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#FeelsBadMan

amber blaze
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Be faster next time or don't play when the servers are about to go down for regular weekly maintenance

normal mirage
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I honestly don't know why ppl are complaining about server shutdowns

rare socket
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World of Tanks: First time ?

timber rune
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If only maintenance windows were regular and announced in advance.

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And doesn't it stick a 60 minute countdown on your screen before the servers go down?

rare socket
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i just want they do the maintain when big updates

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not like small update every week

timber rune
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Almost all online service games go down for maintenance once a week.

vagrant wing
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If only maintenance windows were regular and announced in advance.
@timber rune It is. They announce it on reddit and on #server-status

timber rune
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Man, sarcasm goes over everybody's heads these days.

vagrant wing
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Oh my bad 🙂

summer girder
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So what are they gonna break this week after fixing ND

slender quartz
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Is this a bug in IH?
We killed the bullet with a same time RPG shot (rdit: both sides are shooting) and in the next stage/phase no RPG NPC was spawning

vagrant wing
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Yeah. That's a known bug since launch although it's the first time i hear that it caused from shooting 2 rockets at the same time. Most ppl think it's happened if the person who hold the rocket get hit by a mortar

slender quartz
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Ah, good to know.

unborn wing
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👀

tender hollow
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kicks the maintenance people to go faster :)🤣

lofty ravine
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Has any clan been able to unlock the clan insignia on their banner for finishing IH in one session?

We've done it a bunch of times already but it remains locked.
@bitter marsh I also done it half dozen times .. still locked

slender kraken
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how often do people do teaching of raids here?

mighty adder
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Doing revision for boss 2 & 3 of IH, hope can do a fresh IH tonight

lofty ravine
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Last time we didn't wiped a single time, no deltas but still not unlocked

coral gulch
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@slender kraken I have done many where novices are helped but only ever seen 1 'Tutorial ' on iron horse... many groups are willing to help though...

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Lots not....

slender kraken
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i dont plan on doing iron horse

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mainly DH

coral gulch
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Probably easier to find some willing sherpas for DH as its quite old now....

tame pawn
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And DH is pretty new player friendly

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Sit in this corner and shoot everything that comes out of this door

coral gulch
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Try a few discovery runs to familiarize and make sure you watch a video or 3 - get a raid build - go join on LFG and jump in to a fresh run and speak to the host in Raid Voice Channel

  • see if you can get help - good luck...@slender kraken
slender kraken
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its all g i already have a build, i'd rather go in rather than go in discovery thanks tho haha

coral gulch
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All Good mate - good luck..

slender kraken
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i'm a destiny player 😄 so i have raid experience haha

bitter marsh
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@lofty ravine still no insignia, we've completed it end to end at least 7 times so far.

icy hull
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just FYI since drop rate for new raid hasnt been datamined, that is the assumed drop rate (using EB rates). and yes correct.

shell otter
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@tame pawn so is IH I've seen more groups asling for guys with a dps build when doing FTCs its the same ship my friend, @slender kraken was gonna say, with as helpful running discovery might seem, don't use it to practice with unless you want to see where ads come from, it misses all the major mechanics of the raid, no computers on boomer, no gen mechanics, me and two other guys could 3 man the raid on discovery, one guy alone could charge all the gens up on rb, your best bet is to make up your own raid and put out there that you need so so many players and start practicing, I did about a month ago, have my own squad now, can get thru DH in around 1 hour 20 mins which isn't perfect but its amazing progress, I've also managed to get both the EB and the ravenous within that time, patience is key and being good with words when looking for people. Best of luck

exotic temple
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is there a chance to get future initiative or foundry pieces from the raid chest in iron horse ,or only bosses can drop ?

flint iris
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You can get it from that too

vagrant wing
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If it's your first run of the week

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assuming you havn't completed he project ofc

exotic temple
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i havent got a single chest/backpack in this run

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no,still collecting pieces to finish the project

vagrant wing
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it's RNG man. It is what it is. You'll have to relay on you teammates, sorry...

echo vector
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There's usually a couple peopel that are willing to drop those so long as they aren't god rolls or something

tender hollow
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you can farm the 4th boss for keys and keep getting them out of the chest

low robin
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Lady death is insane for room4

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U can one clip medics

glad shadow
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Does Anyone Know How To "Trigger" Fieser's Stomp Mechanic?

trail skiff
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I a lot of Raids today. I need Bulwark Backpack

oblique mist
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@glad shadow I believe sometimes someone has to go into the room quickly to trigger him, might be wrong though

normal mirage
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@glad shadow I believe sometimes someone has to go into the room quickly to trigger him, might be wrong though
@oblique mist yep

jade onyx
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what does RV stand for?

tawdry island
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Raid voice

jade onyx
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what does that mean? and i notice there is a number after it

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like RV 25

timber rune
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<- The voice channels in this discord server

jade onyx
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Ohhhhhhh got it... thanks! make sense

timber rune
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Np

fossil pendant
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@glad shadow Stomp Mechanic? Is it where he's going to near his cannon to release a steam of fire?

tender hollow
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Does Anyone Know How To "Trigger" Fieser's Stomp Mechanic?
@glad shadow

How to stop it or actually make him do it?

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If to make him do it fill up the eye by shooting him then he should run back.
To stop him from doing it when he’s back at the train shoot his backpack

mellow lark
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he runs based on a timer, just walk in the room for a second and he will run back and explode

vagrant wing
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Yeah. The eye has nothing to do with it

tame pawn
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Oh, that are some good things to know. Thanks for the info

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We waited a while to do water, so he doesn't blast the tank when he is going in

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But you can 'force' him to go back and fart

uneven chasm
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Hi Hello I'm looking for people for a normal raid I only need 6 players,

smoky tapir
vagrant wing
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@tame pawn You can't. That incorrect. As @mellow lark Said it's based on a timer. Look up the leaked sheet with the mechanics and read carefully

tame pawn
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Ah, i misunderstood it then. I thought you can 'force' him to go back and do his blast. So the tank can safely go in and spray water

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From my experience its around 1 blast for every 1,5 rpg cycle

vagrant wing
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It depends. I think the timer decrease as you progress. In my exp with an average group you can do 3 codes before he explode for the first time and another 2 before he explode for the 2nd time (if everyone on point and find their boxes relatively fast)

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and then depends who shoot the weakpoints on the ceiling. If it's only the tank he can shoot 2-3 weakpoints before he explode for the 3rd time

tame pawn
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I can do the weakpoints by myself before the 3th RPG fase most of the time

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He ll also do his blast then most of the time. But yeah, it depends all on how fast people find the boxes

mellow lark
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its a timer but you can force it, he wont go on its own, he only runs back to explode if someone is in the room and if enough time has passed

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its like 40-50s cant remember exactly, from the last time he exploded

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if you have 1 dps dip his toe in the room he runs back and pops

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usually we get the lava, do rockets and last rocket guy walks in a bit to force the boss, then tank goes in while they do water

dapper gyro
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His fart wipe is on a 120 sec timer.

glad shadow
#

Appreciate The Feedback Guys - I'll Look For The Mechanic Sheet

wraith mountain
#

Why is there raid channels with more then 8?

smoky tapir
#

refresh your discord

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ctrl + r

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its a display issue with discord

wraith mountain
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ahh okay

fresh relic
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Says I got a camo from the last chest in dark hours but can't remember the name or find it

warped violet
#

How long would you think a razorback run would take with a good team

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With that answer do you think it’s better to spend time farming razorback or levelling 3 other characters to level 40

echo vector
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I'd say it depends on whether you have/want the Ravenous

warped violet
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This is for DH

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And I want the EB

echo vector
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Yes I know, but if youd on't have the Ravenous and still want it, having 4 chars helps you for the Ravenous too

warped violet
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Yeah i want the rav as well

echo vector
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Then I'd say bring another 3 chars to level 40

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You'll also get 3 more exotic components a week for free b/c of the donation projects. And then 3 more on top of that if you do the legendaries with each char

warped violet
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Exotic components?

echo vector
#

You're actually getting extoics from the weekly donation project. I say components b/c I always end up deocnstructing them

warped violet
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Ah right

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I don’t even have all normal exotics so I guess that’s a plus

echo vector
#

Yeah I'd definitely go for more chars then

icy hull
#

How long would you think a razorback run would take with a good team
@warped violet with a good team were you all know what you are doing, 20-ish mins for full DH run.

warped violet
#

I got confused by the wording there

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20 minutes from fresh?

icy hull
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start to finish of Full DH run.

echo vector
#

How can you do a full DH run in 20 minutes? You have timegating mechanics throughout the raid

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You can't damage Boomer more than a couple armor bars each time he takes a knee, you can't damage Razorback more than a certain amount every time it opens up, etc.

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I know buddy & Lucy and Weasel and (I ofrget the other bosses in that encounter) can be done super quick with high DPS and a solid strat

icy hull
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Pre pusle debuff fix, fastest i saw ran was 15min full DH run 😄 after pulse fix you could maybe do it in 20-25mins now.

warped violet
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I saw the top DH clan run was 12 minutes

icy hull
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^^

warped violet
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Idk if it was legitimate or not

echo vector
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Yeah I don't see how you can do it legitimately in 12 minutes.....

icy hull
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was legit with pulse stacking and dodge city method.

echo vector
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Well sure I'll give you the pulse stacking. But idk how can you do it legitimately in 20 minutes now without it

warped violet
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Usually the teams I’m in are at weasel at 20 mins lol

smoky tapir
#

damage stacking on both boomer and razorback still exists to bypass the hp limiter

icy hull
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overwatch + opportunistic + FI + 1 pulse OC + 7 turrets (being OC from btsu) is a boat load of damage.

echo vector
#

Wait you can bypass the HP limiter on boomer and razorback?

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Didn't know that. I mean given that I can believe a 20 min run

smoky tapir
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2 or 3 nemesis shots can bypass the limiter that forces a phase change if they are timed right

#

ive seen boomer die in 2 cycles

echo vector
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Damn

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I assume this is nemesis with max headhunter stacks?

smoky tapir
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haven't seen it post patch yet, this was before HH pre-WoNY and without the pulse stacking

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id assume the same is still possible moreso with HH now

icy hull
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WONY changed some DH stuff BUT the 15min run ive seen was TU9 or 9.1 (patch before pulse fix iirc)

smoky tapir
#

and RB is possible to kill each expose phase in 1 shot by timing shots

icy hull
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group i saw, used dodge city shots on RB.

echo vector
#

Interesting

warped violet
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Damn they dodged a whole city huh

icy hull
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hence my point on "with good group" you could do 20m-ish DH full runs.

warped violet
#

Ok, what about average

icy hull
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30mins?

smoky tapir
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30min

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30-45mins would be the about avg for a DH group

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just like 45min-1:15 id say for IH

weary niche
#

On IH third boss cogs. is right side one moving clock wise and left one counter clock or other way around

smoky tapir
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both move clockwise if i remember

echo vector
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They both move inwards, passing the top position when there's 3 clicks left. So that's clockwise for the left and counterclockwise for the right

weary niche
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@echo vector thanks dude

warped violet
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How does one learn to shot call on razorback

flint iris
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You just say shoot the crossbow

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Or like dog at 4

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Chunga on 3

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Stuff like that

warped violet
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I know call outs, but I meant knowing when to call for everyone to go circles

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Wait for a chunga

flint iris
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3,2,1 go

warped violet
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What not

flint iris
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Is that not what you do for circles

warped violet
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Yeah

flint iris
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Exactly

warped violet
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But when to do it and when not to

flint iris
#

Someone’s gonna call it out

warped violet
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I’m talking if you were that person

flint iris
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It’s usually after the chunga has been defeated

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Then you go in circles

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Except for the very first phase

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No chunga there

warped violet
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I always thought it was specific timing lol

echo vector
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If your team is doing poorly and there's a lot of people down, and there's too many ads, then you might have to clean up the ads and then wait for the chunga again, but yeah otherwise, it's just after a chunga, go into circles

flint iris
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Or switch up the people

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Put the people with the most dps on adds

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So they don’t harass the people in the circles

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At least one jammer would help out a lot too

normal mirage
#

Question for those who do IH a lot in public lfg's. When you join a 'exp' group. How long is the typical run from your experience?

smoky tapir
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hour generally

flint iris
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Normally with experienced people around an hr

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Sometimes less, sometimes more

echo vector
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It can vary quite a bit because some people are either straight up lying about having experience or they insist on running glass cannon

flint iris
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Depending on glitches and bugs or if anyone messes up

echo vector
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In my experience, my fastest run with public lfg was 1hr 24. Typical for me is 2 hr

flint iris
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Pretty good for a bunch of randoms

warped violet
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My first run was 2 hours and a half I think

echo vector
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When I'm doing LFGs I'm still doing it with a couple clanmates. My clanmates and I handle most if not all of the core mechanics so usually we just need DPS and a competent healer from the randoms

warped violet
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The furnace boss messed us up

echo vector
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I normally run a hazard tank for boss 3. I always bring two backpacks - one with galvanize and one with opportunistic. If boss one went down too slowly, I'll use my opportunistic backpack; otherwise i use my galvanize backpack

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I also have a solo heal build for boss 2 that lets me outheal all the damage with just my drone; I just need to not walk too fast because the drone sometimes lags behind or gets stuck, but otherwise the control room is handled

normal mirage
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In my experience, my fastest run with public lfg was 1hr 24. Typical for me is 2 hr
@echo vector thats my experience for me as well, joining public exp groups. Roughly 1.5-2h

sharp falcon
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Looking for 2 Players to do speed runs tonight 08/12/20 at 8PM EST (Preferably DPS). MUST be able to perform under pressure, we are achieving sub 35 Runs and looking to reach sub 30. DPS Gear MUST be optimal (Rifle/Focus/Half Shield) Please DM if you are interested.

flint iris
lethal grove
#

LFG IH RAID

flint iris
lethal grove
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thanx

cobalt mica
#

Anyone need 1 for IH

echo vector
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use #lfg-raid-ps4

cobalt mica
#

TY

obsidian gale
#

Anyone doing dark hours?

valid marlin
tame pawn
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I also have a solo heal build for boss 2 that lets me outheal all the damage with just my drone; I just need to not walk too fast because the drone sometimes lags behind or gets stuck, but otherwise the control room is handled
@echo vector If you want to do it all the way solo, you can use a HE healer/hzp build. You can quickly kill the weakpoints with Bighorn scoped in

lilac ginkgo
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I haven’t done any raids yet. What is a good build to use for DH?

tame pawn
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DPS is all you need in Dark Hours

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At razorback you need one persone with HW, jammer pulse for the drone

lilac ginkgo
#

Do you think the longhorn would be good for it ?

tame pawn
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You mean the bighorn? No, its a meme weapon with niche use cases

lilac ginkgo
#

Yes lol sorry about that but I’ve seen a lot of videos saying use an LMG

tame pawn
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The bighorn is the exotic assault rifle you get from legendaries. An lmg can definitely work

lilac ginkgo
#

I have it I was just debating if I should even trying making a build for it and thanks I’ll make an LMG build just need to get a good one. I do have both exotic LMGs maybe one of those would work?

tame pawn
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A pretty basic DPS build should work. You can aim for: 3 pc Providence, 1 pc Grupo, 1 pc Overlord (fox's prayer kneepads)

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The last slot is a flex spot. You can run Coyote's maks, run contractor gloves if using LMG. Ceska if you need a bit more crit change, Fenris if you use an AR

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For talents run unbreakable on chest (or glass canon if you can play with it) and vigilance/composure/companion on backpack

lilac ginkgo
#

Thank you

uneven garden
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You gotta have decent rolls on those pcs tho so to hit like 45CHC/150/CHD

glad shadow
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@echo vector (On Fieser) Assuming You Are Using FI & BTSU Gloves, How Does The Fixer Drone Compare To Using A Chem In Your Opinion?

flint iris
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You can go up to 60/190 if you really wanted to

echo vector
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@glad shadow
I'm not using FI actually. I'm using 3 R&K, 1 Emperor's Guard, another Murakami, and BTSU. R&K as mask backpack chest for blue mod slots that I use for incoming repair, since that's multiplicative with repair skills when you're healing yourself. Kinetic Momentum on the chest. Backpack talent doesn't matter (only beneficial one would be energize but it's completely unnecessary). Repair skills is the first priority for rolls on my gear, then armor regen.

I much prefer the drone over the chem launcher for three reasons

  1. Kinetic momentum doesn't build up stacks for the chem launcher unless you have all charges remaining (which will pretty much never happen in the control room)
  2. It is a lot less stressful to have a drone that will just heal you without thinking about it, so long as you're not moving (you do have to pay attention when you move since it can lag behind or get stuck and not heal you).
  3. Every 2 minutes I am breaking my drone and then a half second later breaking my hive, which then refreshes my drone while putting it into overcharge. The drone lasts 4.5 mins but because I'm refreshing it once every 2 minutes, so my drone has 100% uptime. This means that I never have to let go of the door when I'm holding it open for someone.

I don't use FI because obviously I'm not procing the Ground Control talent, and because it is fairly common for my teammates to run a shield and reviver hive, so they have no source of self healing to keep the 15%/25% damage buff active.

flint iris
#

Opportunistic is good for backpack

echo vector
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@tame pawn is it quicker than asking a DPS player down below to help with the weakpoints?

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Bend3n you talking to me? Because if I'm locked in the control room, I'm not shooting anyone.....can't shoot Fesier when it's DPS phase since I"m holidng hte door open

flint iris
#

Good point tho

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So you’re soloing it?

echo vector
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Yeah

flint iris
#

Ah I see

tame pawn
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@echo vector not quicker, but its easier with randoms. If i have a familiair group i just run FI in the control room

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Still have to optimize the build. I need a chest with braced and a fenris with skill repair and haz pro

echo vector
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Ah. Whenever I'm raiding its a couple clanmates + randoms (don't have enough raid inclined members in our clan to do the raid just by ourselves). One of my clanmates typically helps me with the weakpoints

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Wait why do you want braced for soloing the control room?

#

Oh you want the WH for shooting the weakpoints?

tame pawn
#

Yeah, if you are running with the same people a lot of times, its no point killing the weakpoints by yourself

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and yeah, there is no usefull chest talent to run. And console aim :S

echo vector
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No, kinetic momentum is fantastic because it increases skill repair by 2% per stack per skill

tame pawn
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The repair from my current set up is enough already, so no point investing in more

echo vector
#

Which healing skills are you using?

tame pawn
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hive and repair drone

echo vector
#

Does your drone outheal all the damage on its own?

tame pawn
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Yup.

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If i run around a lot and the drone loses connection, i can top it off with hive

echo vector
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Could I see a pic of your build? I know my build outheals it and always knew it was overkill, but I don't know what the threshold is

tame pawn
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Can't send picture here. I ll dm it to you

echo vector
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k, thanks

glad shadow
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@echo vector Great Breakdown Man. Im Going To Give It A Try Soon Because Losing Chem Charges Is Irritating At Times

echo vector
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So I knew that my build was completely overkill for my drone to outheal the damage by itself, but I didn't know just how much was necessary. @tame pawn here has tested it withotu kinetic momentum and it's not necessary

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Regardless, my points on why no FI still stand - ground control is useless and some teammates don't have self healing. As does my preference for the less stressful drone

tame pawn
#

well... i got an idea for that 😉

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You can run an hybrid skill damage / FI heal build on B. Use turret and restorer hive

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Pop in the hive for some quick heals and bonus damage is live again

echo vector
#

Right, it can work outside the control room

glad shadow
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There Is No Such Thing As Overkill When In The Control Room Solo 😁

echo vector
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Haha I can almost outheal that button in the firing range with just my drone. If i proc reformation I can outheal it. I might actually be able to do it if armor regen actually worked in the firing range

flint iris
#

What’s your other skill?

echo vector
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Hive, which I only use if my drone is stuck/lagging behind, and for overcharge

flint iris
#

Ah I see

glad shadow
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So The Attributes Would Be Skill Repair And Armor Regen - Incoming Repair In The Blue Spots

echo vector
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For the overkill build, yes

tame pawn
#

Skill repair with skill haste can also work

echo vector
#

The skill haste is completely unecessary for drone/hive. BTSU makes the hive skill haste ridiculous, and you can just overcharge to get the drone back

tame pawn
#

Yeah, true about that. Armor regen would be more beneficial

echo vector
#

yeah you either go for hazpro if you're trying to break the weakpoints yourself or armor regen if you're not

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but ofc repair skills is first priority

glad shadow
#

Word, I Think Ima Try A Hollow Man With It To Pick Up Some HazPro And Damage

flint iris
#

Hmm hollow man is actually really smart for the control tower

echo vector
#

Yeah weakpoints are all health damage so it's great. And I hadn't thought of hte Bighorn until Moondust mentioned it, but it makes a ton of sense with the health damage and hits super hard when scoped

glad shadow
#

Yes - Health Damage For The Weakpoints/10%HazPro (Roll Another 10 On It)

flint iris
#

Bighorn is best utilized on hybrids and low red core builds due to the high damaged per shot

glad shadow
#

Yes I Saw That Big Horn Suggestion Also

flint iris
#

So it would be perfect for soloing control rooms

icy hull
#

Bighorn is best utilized on hybrids and low red core builds due to the high damaged per shot
and also the high damage per mag.

flint iris
#

Basically what I wrote azur but good point as well

slender kraken
#

but bighorn tho only 5% drop rate on legendary which sucks

flint iris
#

It’s pretty easy to get if you do more legendarys

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5% is reasonable

tender hollow
#

well... i got an idea for that 😉
@tame pawn I run a skill build on B, with turret and restorer hive. If A or C are struggling, then I drop and leave the hive there. The turret and any AR with in sync is enough to handle the adds on B most the of time.

flint iris
#

Especially now people can breeze thru one in liek 30 minutes

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@tender hollow do you put it right outside the door?

tender hollow
#

Yep just outside the door. You don't need anything fancy either like tamper proof

glad shadow
#

@tender hollow Lmao I Use Eclipe With A Hive And Shock Traps - Its A Breeze

flint iris
#

Nice

tender hollow
#

But using tamper proof is hilarious

flint iris
#

Tamper prof is pretty dang good for that

glad shadow
#

Facts Lol - I Use Vindictive To Help My Partner Also

flint iris
#

Correct me if I’m wrong but B adds only spawn from one door right?

tame pawn
#

Yeah

flint iris
#

Ah nice

tame pawn
#

But they might also wander over from A

glad shadow
#

Just Put A Hive There And They All Die Pretty Quick - If They Survive Its Literally With Low Health

tame pawn
#

@flint iris can you post my solo control room healer build in here with bighorn if i DM it to you?

flint iris
#

I can’t post images here either lol

tame pawn
#

Ah, gotcha

flint iris
#

Make it an imgur link and sent it here

#

You should be able to do that

#

Or as a discord attachment

flint iris
#

Yeah it does

#

What’s the 2 and 3 pc rnk bonus again?

tame pawn
#

Cool. Its far from optimised, but is does the trick

#

explosive resist and skill repair

flint iris
#

Ahh I see

tame pawn
#

Wanna add a 2nd piece Murukami and a fenris with skill repair and haz pro

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Instead of the 2nd and 3rd piece R&K

glad shadow
#

Concussion + Reformation 🤔 Nice Combo

flint iris
#

It’s maxed

slender kraken
#

wait bighorn from ANY legendary right?

flint iris
#

He already said lol

tame pawn
#

You see the part "far from optimised" ? xD

flint iris
#

@slender kraken yes

slender kraken
#

sweet thanks 🙂

tame pawn
#

I wanna add braced and composure to it

flint iris
#

But aren’t you gonna be out of cover?

#

Doing the doors and stuff

tame pawn
#

Not for shooting the weakpoints

flint iris
#

Ah

tame pawn
#

That the whole point of this build

echo vector
#

companion would work too

tame pawn
#

Yeah, good catch

#

Didn't think about that one

flint iris
#

Do you collect commendations @tame pawn

tame pawn
#

Lol, why? I have like 90 already

slender kraken
#

@flint iris question how often do people take inexperienced people in the raid mainly DH

flint iris
#

I personally don’t really know

#

But here and there people will do it

glad shadow
#

DH Comp % Is Still Under 5 So Id Imagine Not Much Anymore With IH

flint iris
#

Wdym by that?

echo vector
#

I've done a beginners welcome raid before and got them through it in like 3.25 hours

flint iris
#

That’s a pretty decent time

#

For which raid?

glad shadow
#

Less Than 5% Of The Community (Im PS4) Has Completed DH

echo vector
#

IH

slender kraken
#

thats ps4

flint iris
#

Ah wow that’s actually really nice

echo vector
#

For having llike 4 beginners yeah that's a good time

flint iris
#

I’m guessing the most trouble on fieser or Williams?

#

Cause I’m those fight you can’t really hve “an easy job”

echo vector
#

I saw we didn't have enough DPS for boss 1 so for boss 3 I put on my opportunistic backpack instead of galvanize

flint iris
#

Ah nice

#

For boss one when my clan does raid carries we just tell em to use a skill build

#

And use oxi

echo vector
#

Yeah Williams was the hardest, but thankfully we had a couple experienced people taht could handle teh furances, so the beginners just had to handle ads and looking for diagnostic

flint iris
#

Oh nice

#

Morozova should be kinda straight forward

#

We usually put the newer guys on adds

echo vector
#

Yup, Morozova's not bad at all

glad shadow
#

Last Night Morozova Shot Her Rockets While Running To The Trailer Immune...Had Me Mad ASF

flint iris
#

Yikes

echo vector
#

wow wtf

glad shadow
#

Right, And It Happened During The 3rd Phase

tame pawn
#

Yeah, that happens if you immune her when she is in the rpg animation

flint iris
#

When she starts doing the animation no one shoots her except for the tank (who staggers)

glad shadow
#

@tame pawn Thats What I Think Also, But While Running To The Trailer...Bro 😑

tame pawn
#

Oh, damn. Haven't seen that before

#

Thats a big yikes

slender kraken
#

bruh ngl people who tells other people to do the discovery is freaking dumb like i understand its easier but you wont be ablle to get the EB and plus theres less mechanics

#

like have a brain pls

glad shadow
#

@flint iris I Actually Roam With Her Myself And Prep Damage On Her 🤷‍♂️

flint iris
#

It’s nice

glad shadow
#

@slender kraken Discovery Helps If Its Used A Certain Way. Knowing The Mechanics And NPC Spawn Points Specifically

slender kraken
#

theres less mechanics from what i've seen, so its better if you actually do the raid with the mechanics, spawns its not hard to locate once u get the idea

flint iris
#

^

#

Discovery’s only good for npc spawns

#

Core mechanics aren’t shown

slender kraken
#

As a destiny Raider, telling me to go to ez mode not get loot is basically a big F you

flint iris
#

Like boomer computers

#

And Razorback circles at the same time

slender kraken
#

like destiny hhas more mechanics than this game

glad shadow
#

Of Course But Im Speaking From A Novice Standpoint. Alot Of Guys I Have Helped Try The Regular Raid And Get Stuck Quick - They Never See Anything Past Boomer Until Its Real Lol

slender kraken
#

No offense but seems like those are the type of people who HAVENT done ANY raid of Any Kind

glad shadow
#

Yes Exatcly Lol

slender kraken
#

i understand its a hit or miss with the person, if i have to i'll tell them i did destiny raid's and im not stupid plus fast learner but hit or miss really with randoms

#

i've encountered a lot, especially in the recent Destiny 2 Raid. 2 WEEKS to get one clear with randoms

glad shadow
#

Discovery Aside, Most Who Struggle To Complete DH Get Stuck On Razorback

slender kraken
#

is that mainly cuz they cant kill the chungas?

flint iris
#

Razorback is far harder than any of the bosses

slender kraken
#

or the mechanics?

flint iris
#

No chungas are ez

#

It’s the drones

#

And the mortars

slender kraken
#

oh right

flint iris
#

And can’t kill adds in time

#

Cause people want to do raid right after lvl 40

#

They gotta be prepared

glad shadow
#

All Of The Above, But Usually Because They Are On Their Own IMO

slender kraken
#

that's what've noticed lmao people dont have a build and decides to go in raid

glad shadow
#

Right...And Its Like That With IH Also...A Player Can Appear To Be Strong Until They Break Away From The Team

#

Not Saying Their Builds Need Work, Its Moreso The Experience Or Movement

tame pawn
#

That happens a lot on boss 3

#

Quickly chasing an add while the team moves to the next color

glad shadow
#

Lol

echo vector
#

@glad shadow no offense but why do you keep capitalizing every word? Makes it harder to read

slender kraken
#

some people are like that

glad shadow
#

@echo vector None Taken Lol...Its An Old Bad Habit

weary niche
#

Has flawless IH commendation bugged for someone too?

normal mirage
#

yep

#

did someone in your group wipe, have the leader reset the raid, then proceed to finish the raid without dying? @weary niche

tender hollow
winged lodge
#

I think there's a bug in the flawless raid commendation. turns out someone always end up dying.

keen swallow
#

Why is in game raid search so aids

normal mirage
#

if you wipe as a group, the leader has to disband the team and create a fresh new raid in order for flawless commendation. Worked for our group.

keen swallow
#

Anyone for a full key run on dh

#

Lfg

warped violet
proper cradle
#

LFG Fresh DH raid

flint iris
proper cradle
#

Oh sorry my bad forgot

weary niche
#

@normal mirage we didn fully do a new raid group after wirhbr started yeah. But that's wierd because in first raid you didn't have to. At this point the game goes more a joke everyday 🥺

left pecan
#

Any 1 wants to join dh fresh?

flint iris
pseudo rivet
#

Raid or Legendary has better drops?

echo vector
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Idk about the quality per drop, but raids are nowhere near time efficient for loot. Only the raid bosses, not general npcs, drop loot

graceful birch
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Defo legendary

copper ridge
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Anyone know of a group willing to teach an experienced player (not raiding though) the raids? I have healer/tank/status/turret drone, ND crit/rifle/skillsupport/sharpshooter loadouts.

flint iris
tender hollow
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Legendary is better when its the gear set (e.g. Providence) that you are farming for. With Raids the type of loot is random

uneven garden
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And raid loots are just OK only in the first run of a week. but it’s has exclusive exotics and so ppl don’t farm raid for loots

flint iris
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Raid exclusive gear

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Which is part of “loot”

uneven garden
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That’s true

copper ridge
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@flint iris thanks. It seems most want "must have X amount of experience" though

shell otter
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@copper ridge set a day and time and make your own group, post looking for people, take your position serious and tell the truth that you are after clears not just the loot, and you'll get there, been part of my clan for a month, gone from no DH clears to 15, and i now how cleared ih a few times, have all exotics apart from the regulus, which I only need a clear after reset for now, was a solo player until i realised I needed groups, just like anything else, you have to pursue it best of luck 👍

echo vector
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@copper ridge you could also look through the clan recruitment page and find clans willing to teach people to do the raids. It's fairly common for LFGs here to say experienced only please, but there are plenty of clans will to teach people about raids (and other content)

runic bison
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one day ill earn my flawless raid patch on pc like i did on ps4

echo vector
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I've heard it's been bugging out and not awarding the commendation even though nobody dc'd, died, fast traveled out, etc. Are people still seeing that?

copper ridge
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@shell otter @echo vector thank you both for your suggestions. I'm in a old man clan at the moment that I like helping. I may need to look for another though since I want to raid

nimble hatch
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Anyone playing the raid?

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the second one.

primal cave
#

I'm also looking for a group to play the new Raid

whole wagon
runic bison
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^

warped violet
#

How long would a morozova run take with an average group

signal forge
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15-20 min

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waiting the ads to spawn take a long time

warped violet
#

So it would take about an hour a box

signal forge
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well yes if u farm for the keys

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without taking a break

flint iris
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More than an hr a box

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You need to include character switches

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And “accidents” that will inevitably happen

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So maybe 1hr 30 to be safe

warped violet
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Wow that’s long

signal forge
#

pretty much just like doing the full run raids with pubs

tender hollow
#

pretty much just like doing the full run raids with pubs
@signal forge with randoms, 1.5 hrs is if your lucky

warped violet
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What’s the option other than randoms

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Because usually I hear the term randoms with matchmaking

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And the other option would be lfg

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But that’s not the case with raids

signal forge
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CLAN or Friends if u got a solid one

visual harbor
#

Questions for those that have done DH raid. How ‘difficult’ or spongy are the enemies? I’ve done legendary and that’s alright but I’d be keen to know if they are harder or different in some way.

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Mainly in a TTK sense

flint iris
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@visual harbor they’re not that spongy tbh, its feels like a smidge harder than heroic but less tanky than legs

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I use my mg5 with 60/215 (including coyotes) and I can do around 2-3 purples per 100 rounds

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Elites can be a little hard to kill sometimes Though

visual harbor
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Oh sweet! Thanks @flint iris. I’ve got a few builds ready but it’s good to have a baseline, cheers!

flint iris
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Np :)

tender hollow
tame sky
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I’ve been running Sacrifice for boss 1 and 4, but I definitely recommend unbreakable for newer players.

glad shadow
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@echo vector My Guy! That Damn Healer Drone Works Wonders Lmao. Im NEVER Using The Chem Again In The Control Room 😂😂😂

normal mirage
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Some ppl use Chem launchers in the control room. It can heal through walls so it could save ppl guarding power boxes up top for 2nd boss IH

tender hollow
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Lfg DH raid

signal forge
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Wrong channel

hushed kiln
tame pawn
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@glad shadow haha, welcome to the healer drone gang. No more charge juggling :)

hushed kiln
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Imagine running out of heals

This post was made by the Fixer Drone Gang

echo vector
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@glad shadow welcome to the Fixer Drone Gang 😀

manic gazelle
#

Raid discussion. Okay this will be interesting

Unbreakable, up
Glass cannon, down

Ironhorse

shell otter
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Do not use unbreakable on iron horse, you lose dps plus you shouldn't need it if your tank runs vanguard, or perfect vanguard with protector

humble solar
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Wtf is unbreakable

shell otter
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Wouldnt use glass cannon either as it could still be an issue unless all experieneced and your tanks ace, obliterate to be safe in my opinion

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You get like 80% of your armour back when an ad destroys it i think

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Cant remeber if its 80% or not

coral gulch
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95%

humble solar
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FOCUS or PGC

tender hollow
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if you run with randoms anything but GC/PGC, as you will be shot from behind

humble solar
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Situational awareness

tender hollow
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I think its similar to using PGC in Dark Hours. When someone has done it enough times, they start to use PGC, but it depends on the group. The same with IH, more and more people will use it, but I wouldn't in a random group.

uneven garden
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GC is fine if skilful enough to not go down that much. Otherwise liability. ESP when Chunga and rusher at the sametime if DPS went down the entire side might go down

golden grove
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anyone farming Iron Horse

echo vector
flint iris
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@west inlet remember to read the rules, any type of advertisements are not allowed, no plugging of your content in the standard channels

proud blaze
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what does rv mean in the lfg chat

warped violet
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Raid voice

proud blaze
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ohhh

gilded rapids
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yo

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is the raid broken? Dark hours?

flint iris
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Explain more

gilded rapids
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We've had the grate after you pull the lever for the drones not work twice now

flint iris
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After boomer?

gilded rapids
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yeah after boomer

flint iris
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You have to pull both at once iirc

echo vector
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^^

deep river
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UPLAY NICK = GOVNOEBANOE1337 santero #9587 Spamming music in RV channels.

solar yoke
#

any build advice for raids? i dont wanna find a group and be the handicap lol

flint iris
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Just watch videos make make the builds nessesary

solar yoke
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any youtuber recs?

flint iris
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I know Patrick wolf has some

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But just do a search, an many good ones will come up

solar yoke
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thanks

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is it hard to find sherpas? i just got back into the game and the community seems to be rapidly dying '

flint iris
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A little, most people just want to raid and get it over with

mental laurel
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@flint iris Do you play the game?

hard light
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LF Iron Horse raid.

warped violet
#

How do I check how many times I’ve completed a raid

vagrant wing
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esc -> progression ->leaderboards -> raid -> ih -> completion at lvl ***-> F [jump to me]

limpid ledge
#

So guys,is shooting the green laser in iron horse 4th boss really do anything? i just tested shooting and not shooting the green laser,the result are almost the same,they still stop around the same time

tender hollow
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anybody doing fresh iron horse raid im exp

prisma bluff
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Shooting the lazer doesnt do anything

echo vector
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And the lasers apparently can't be jammed either. Seems only solution is the decoy. Maybe there's another skill the lasers will aggro on, but I know decoy works for sure

fossil pendant
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@limpid ledge It just temporarily disables them for around 10 seconds.

flint iris
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If I’m in the server I probably play the game lol

echo vector
fossil pendant
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Ah ok

limpid ledge
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ahh,thanks

viscid grove
#

Anyone have the IH last boss cp? would be a huge help

flint iris
warped violet
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I mean

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A lot of the mods on the siege server don’t play siege

worn abyss
#

bonsoir cherche plusieurs joueur pour raid merci

tender hollow
#

hey how do I join a raid? should I ask firstly in #lfg-raid-pc or just join in any voice channel? ^^

coral gulch
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There are no rules - I just wait til I see LFM on the raid I want (in LFG) - jump in the RV and have a chat with the host.... could wait to be invited but u might be waiting a while....@tender hollow

glad shadow
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Does Anyone Else Use A Decoy For The Green Turrets On Morozova?

flint iris
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Our team just shoots them

glad shadow
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@flint iris Mine As Well, Just Curious To Know How Effective It May Be

flint iris
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Ehhh

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I think it’s better just to suppress them

vagrant wing
flint iris
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Rather than using a skill slot

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Oop well there you go

placid compass
#

is there a way to do iron horse as a level 30?

vagrant wing
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Yes. There is a lvl 30 version. I don't know if anyone play it tho

placid compass
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:/

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how does one even start up a level 30 version

vagrant wing
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You can try and join a lvl 40 raid. It should scale you up, but honestly i've never seen it in person

placid compass
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I did join a level 40 one

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did the first boss but they kinda kicked me out after that

vagrant wing
#

how does one even start up a level 30 version
@placid compass Talk to the guy on the heli-pad next to the helicopter

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did the first boss but they kinda kicked me out after that
Sorry to hear... well at least you know you can do it. You just need to find the right group

placid compass
#

is the expansion worth the 30 dollars?

vagrant wing
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In my opinion - no

placid compass
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mm

icy hull
#

In my opinion very much yes

vagrant wing
#

But it's up to you really. You'll get more content (worth about 4 hrs), another map. 4 new missions, bounties and some other factions oh and Seasons ofc

icy hull
#

Tldr: if you enjoy the game, it's very worth.

placid compass
#

I'll see about it.

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30 is kinda steep

vagrant wing
#

That's my opinion too. But again - your money your choice 🙂

placid compass
#

I would probably get it if it had more content

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but it seems a bit small for the price

echo vector
#

Yeah I use a decoy for the green turrets. I'm usually the person staggering Morovoza and it helps draw her aggro too. Got my decoy to 10.5s cooldown 50.4s duration

wary moat
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people always taking for granted the usefulness of decoy in 4th boss, it can take the mortar aoes away from you too

flint iris
#

Thoughts on using a skill build for ad control at boomer?

dapper gyro
#

It's been a while since my last DH runs, but "back then" it wasn't the best idea since your skills might target Boomer and switch the aggro away from the kiter.

flint iris
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Oh right makes sense

dapper gyro
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If you really wanted to you could find some places though I guess. For example donut shop spawn door comes to mind, drop a turret on the floor in front of door once Booms started to do his rounds and it should be fine and not reach him. Status effect damage build might be an idea these days as well, just don't use any talents that spread the status.

flint iris
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Cool

orchid heart
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"on story difficulty complete dark hours raid" is that discovery level hardness? Trying to get the commadation

flint iris
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@orchid heart yes that’s what it is

karmic oyster
#

What is the recommended damage of rifle for boomers in razorback?

flint iris
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I’m not sure about specific dmg numbers, but I think 50/150 is a pretty good baseline

echo vector
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If you happen to have the Ravenous, it melts the boomers

flint iris
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Any weapon will do

wary moat
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@flint iris> Thoughts on using a skill build for ad control at boomer?
@flint iris its good when you are in burger joint and donut shack part

echo vector
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Yeah anything will do as long as you're shooting them in the ass. But the Ravenous took them down faster than any weapon I've used

flint iris
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Yeah there’s where I normally sit

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It’s hard sometimes tho cause once they spawned 2 elites and 3 purps out at the same time

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But will turret and drone I can just put those down and camp at b computer

wary moat
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tbh people in computer help out too

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especially A and B computers

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because adds are priority, boomer onlu when damage phase

flint iris
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We normally have one person at each corner, 3 kiting, and one floater in middle

wary moat
#

2 kiters are enough

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someone from 45 turret

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and first kiter

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they can pass the red eyes rather easily

flint iris
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3 including the turret guy

wary moat
#

then if 45 turret player gets red eye the first kiter can go to 41 turret

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3 is too much

flint iris
#

It works for us ¯_(ツ)_/¯

wary moat
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as long the adds are dying

flint iris
#

Are you using a skill build for that?

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@glad shadow

glad shadow
#

@echo vector I Asked About Decoys For Morozova Earlier

wary moat
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i use decoy on morozova

glad shadow
#

Are Decoys Viable For Keeping The Green Lasers Distracted

wary moat
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as dps

echo vector
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Yes

wary moat
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even mortar aoe

echo vector
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Works every time for me

wary moat
#

really helpful for tunnel phase for early tunnel phase and when the boss has blue armor

echo vector
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I'm using a tier 6 decoy. Dunno if it will hold aggro of the lasers at tier 0 or 1 though

wary moat
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it will hold for like 10 secs

echo vector
#

Which is fine since the lasers go away after 10s

wary moat
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yup

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i keep telling our dps use it

glad shadow
#

Ok So You Just Simply Keep The Decoy Out During The Entire Phase

wary moat
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depends on your role

glad shadow
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Really No Need To Shoot Them Huh

wary moat
#

as dps for adds just use it whenever its up away from you

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for adds clearing and green laser

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rocket guy same thing

echo vector
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Yeah. I do take it down when Morozova's not aggro'd on it and then I'll throw it again after it's off cooldown

wary moat
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and its actually nice against morozova when you get red eye

glad shadow
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I Kite Morozova But Ive Been Considering Having My Guys On Adds Use The Decoy (Placing It Out Front)

wary moat
#

its really help not shocking the dps and whoever around you

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as a healer i use opportunistic bag

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so i rush to chungus whem i can to help out, sometimes morozova is there

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its quite painful when we get shocked and get foamed lol

glad shadow
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I Track Morozova With A Drone - Opp On The Bag w/Insync Shotty - This Limits How Much DPS We Need To Do When Headed Towards The Middle

wary moat
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just be careful not pushing the mechanics too early

echo vector
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Yeah if the drone damages her too much then you're going to wipe

wary moat
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yup its good if its calculated

glad shadow
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Of Course But Its Fairly Easy To Manage

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I Usually Time It With My Rocket Guys And Leave A Full Bar For The Team

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Its Just Those Lasers Sometimes

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Hence Me Asking About Decoys

echo vector
#

Yeah it's why i use a skill tier 6 build for staggering morovoza. Decoys draw aggro of the lasers so my team doesn't have to deal with them. I also have overwatch on my chest

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I can't keep overwatch up all the time since i have to move around a fair bit, but it's up a decent amount

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and hten overclock on the backpack

glad shadow
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Do You Place The Decoy Anywhere In Particular?

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Or Notice A Difference When Positioning It Somewhere

echo vector
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Uh I try to place it towards the center so Morovoza isn't bothering my teammates as much, but if Morovoza's too far from it when you throw it, it won't draw her aggro

glad shadow
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Moreso The Lasers - Im Thinking In The Center Also To Draw All 4 Turrets

strange crow
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LFG IH

valid apex
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If you sticky Morovoza at the beginning, she will stay focused on you the whole time. You can keep her pinned against the door

echo vector
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Oh you mean sticky and not explode it?

glad shadow
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Lol this is hilarious

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I suppose by keeping her in 1 spot that will eliminate her rocket attempts. Still have to damage her so nah Im good

copper stump
#

Looking for player DH now

flint iris
olive coyote
#

IH raid Im down

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anyone send me an invite

livid sparrow
#

DH raid?

flint iris
whole basin
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7

grizzled latch
#

Anyone have last boss CP?

rough ingot
#

Can you farm last boss keys if you cleared the raid already in a given week ? And can you only open the chest once per week ?

flint iris
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@rough ingot you can farm boss as many times as you want

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You can always open the chest if you have enough keys

rough ingot
#

Will she always drop a key

flint iris
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Yes

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Always

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That’s only for the last boss

rough ingot
#

Ty

flint iris
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Np

quaint owl
#

LFG dark hours

minor pine
#

weekly raid discussion time...

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çHow has the week treted you guys?

mint grove
#

I didnt know that EB doesnt drop from story mode which i was farming for the past week

minor pine
#

only on normal

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I did the explore one just for giggles... fun to see all the "non-meta" builds there

mighty adder
#

explore is fun...for sure

molten steppe
#

the best thing is , they don't listen at all how beat each boss or learn about mechanics, they run like chickens 😄

minor pine
#

fun...

warped violet
#

Razorback discovery is the worst

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Literally none of the matches I’ve been in shot the grates and if they did they didn’t throw a grenade in

tender hollow
#

Razorback discovery is the worst
@warped violet if you lucky 1 other person knows that you need to throw in a concussion grenade

warped violet
#

Usually I throw in both grenades lol

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You can solo the circles

tender hollow
#

then you gotta scramble around looking for more grenades when you run out lol

warped violet
#

And they give like half a minute to take out the boomer

wary moat
#

discovery DH is chaotic funny, boomer youll know who are first timers, they kept shooting him and some using turret to kill adds

timber rune
#

I'm wondering why you'd do discovery if you know what to do.

lofty ravine
#

sawyer kneepad is waste in raids

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they should fix this to give stagger immunity in raid explosions

echo vector
#

Idk what the point of discovery is. I did it for the commendation, but when some of the mechanics are different or outright missing, it doesn't teach people the raid

timber rune
#

Maybe it's just to demonstrate why matchmaking for raids won't work.

echo vector
#

lol

flint iris
#

I bet it’s so people can flex their eagle bearers in story

timber rune
#

Lmao you think anyone matchmaking for discovery DH even knows what EB looks like?

flint iris
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Yeah

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That’s why they matchmake in hopes to get it

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Cause they don’t know you can’t do that yet

timber rune
#

I mean they've probably heard of it. Not seen it.

lofty ravine
#

can someone tell me why sawyer kneepad doesn't work on explosions in raid

true cape
#

Anyone having a glitch with the 3rd boss with the valves?

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E valve is not showing to move even though it’s being shot the way it’s supposed to

tame sky
#

we had a glitch where he didn't even show up during the turret phase

tender hollow
#

I'm wondering why you'd do discovery if you know what to do.
@timber rune its a loot farm. drops are the same as normal though less, but its easy so you can run through the last boss super fast. imo also DH loot is better than IH

wary shoal
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Why did my CP 4th boss got wiped after 9 times today. Yes i did today's complet raid

wary moat
#

I'm wondering why you'd do discovery if you know what to do.
@timber rune out of curiousity and i had someone with me want to do it

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Idk what the point of discovery is. I did it for the commendation, but when some of the mechanics are different or outright missing, it doesn't teach people the raid
@echo vector for players cant do raid and want the story of that raid

tender hollow
#

Lol they silently nerfed intimidate working at long ranges

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Was doing 800k a crit close up and from a far before but now it’s 800k close up and 680k to enemies far

lofty ravine
#

can someone tell me why sawyer kneepad doesn't work on explosions in raid
No one has any answer?

glad shadow
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Discovery Mode was created because several complaints were made about not having match-making available for the real raid. It can be used to teach some mechanics/npc spawn points etc. But like most things Division it depends on who you are running with.

flint iris
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You can’t really learn mechnics in discovery

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Not much are shown

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Like boomer computers

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Razorback circles all at once

wary shoal
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@tender hollow they take a way 100 hsd on bosses in the raid

warped violet
#

Pretty sure all screens are green on weasel as well

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Buddy and Lucy are far more forgiving

glad shadow
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@flint iris Shooting The Towers On Boomer - Flipping Gas On Weasel - Computers On B&L - Circles/Nade/Weakpoints/Boomer (All Mechanics) 🤷‍♂️

flint iris
#

Those are the required mechnics

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Boomer computers aren’t shown

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You don’t hve to do Razorback circles all at once

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And no keys

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Discovery is good for loot tho

glad shadow
#

Doesnt have to be the most "effective" way, but those are things that have to be done to progress

flint iris
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Might as well just do normal then ¯_(ツ)_/¯

glad shadow
#

Definitely BUT remember, it was made to appease those who complained about not having a group

flint iris
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Yeah so they could be satisfied

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But then those same people are complaining that keys should also be added to diszcovery

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

glad shadow
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Right, water down the mechs so you can see where the box is even though you cant get any keys lol

flint iris
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Lol

wary shoal
#

that are just baby's that want key's in discovery!!!!!!!!!!!!

glad shadow
#

And lets not forget about having the EB drop outside the raid 🙄 Players were pissed about getting killed in the DZ with the EB

warped violet
#

“EB meta”

flint iris
warped violet
#

I still find that hilarious

glad shadow
#

Which ultimately lead to the nerf

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🤣🤣🤣 Yup ☝️

wary moat
#

the EB back then hits harder than nowadays

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most AR was around 19k at most and EB was 26k

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it got nerfed down to 21k

undone stratus
#

Hello, in IH when we reach tha last phase at fieser when we have to just kill him, does it make any sense if we shoot him with water before we send all people in, or it doesn't?

echo vector
#

There's no need to douse him with water. Just have everyone gather in the B airlock and dps him. He can't hit you if you're in there

wary moat
#

he can throw grenade sometimes just be careful with it, the one in control room need to pay attention

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and yeah it pure dps that phase

vagrant wing
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Hello, in IH when we reach tha last phase at fieser when we have to just kill him, does it make any sense if we shoot him with water before we send all people in, or it doesn't?
@undone stratus No. He loses all heat stacks when you solidify the turret

undone stratus
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Oh well thanks, we just messed up in the end, every dps died in that heat sadly

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If they stay in the airlock, amd they shoot him from there, can that work?

flint iris
#

Yes that works

vagrant wing
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Yes. If you're staying inside the airlock you won't gain more stacks (you won't lose stacks either). The boss can't use his flamethrower on you - but he might use his grenades (he throw them right in front of the door and the aoe can go through the door sometimes)

undone stratus
#

Oh maaan thank you very mutch guys!

vagrant wing
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Make sure the guy in the control room hold the door open for you. If he needs to release it for whatever reason - the guys in the airlock should be ready to fight the adds spawning from B. One more thing - if the control room loses power while he hold the door open - make sure he won't release the button. The door will stay open as long as he presses it. If he release it - you'll have to turn the power on

undone stratus
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Alright thanks , that will be usefull

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I am the one who used to be in the controll room with a healer guy, we let the boss break the window in the begining, so the adds upstairs are not interested in the light anymore coz we are locked in anyway luckily

vagrant wing
#

It's not working like that anymore. They fixed it

coral gulch
#

The times I've done that boss we always keep the guys on the stairs in that position... 4 or 5 in the airlock is plenty.... (I have over 50 clears)

undone stratus
#

It still working like that, we did it like that on sunday and today as well, but we messed up at the end

flint iris
#

Adds will still come up to shut down the power

vagrant wing
#

It still working like that, we did it like that on sunday and today as well, but we messed up at the end
@undone stratus sheer luck my dude. Trust me - they still try to knock the power out

undone stratus
#

I dont think 5 times in a row is a luck 😅

flint iris
#

^

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No it is

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Luck can keep on going

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I’d say put 2 guys there just to be safe

vagrant wing
#

I dont think 5 times in a row is a luck 😅
If i remember my logic lessons correctly - this isn't a proof 🙂

flint iris
#

It’s not lol

vagrant wing
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As long as someone had the opposite case

flint iris
#

Our team already tested that after the break

undone stratus
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If ur timing is bad, they spawn when the controllroom seals and maybe they shut down the power maybe dont, but if they did it once, after we switched back the power they never ever tried to do that again