#td2-raid-discussions
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nic
Biggest issue I see in PUG groups with boss 3 is destroying the third turret too quickly. The pressure knobs should be completed prior to destroying the turret so the tank can engage the boss on the ground before he makes it to the platform.
A pretty good strat my clan ran into was having the tank pick up the boss and throwing decoys on the tank. Having the tank then move towards the outside wall, allowing a break from the oxidizer spam.
As each decoy runs out a new one is thrown between the old decoy and the tank, ensuring the backpack is always facing the center where the raid can easily target.
lol, I thought this was for division 2 gotta love the ubis streaming something other than div2 here
I hope you are not wanting a reply from Ubi,,, they seem to afk or streaming something other than Div2 here, and the moderators only seem to be here for the eye candy
i was in the wrong chat
nah, somebody could've answered your question, they are just not paying attention
for instance... why would Ubi hire a moderator that is more concerned with his/her own twitch channel?
according to my screen there are 4 people in here from Ubi... all sleeping or offline?... and 3 moderators, again... sleeping or offline
why are these people here?
Not everyone sits in front of discord the whole time let alone has appearing online the whole time
Ubi devs and moderators don’t come here just to exclusively answer all the questions you have about the game, we’re here to talk and interact with the community too
So, I know absolutely nothing about the raid. What builds do I need? Any good videos to watch that will cover everything? Looking to start it, but don't want to waste anyone's time not being prepared.
@royal valley for odh all you need is a dps build, for Ih it’s more mechanics heavy and a variety of builds are needed, to prepare I’d say make a dps, healer, and tank build, and also read up on the mechanics. I’m sure there’s lots of yt vids that provide good info about that
Thanks
yeah, you will be doing everyone a huge favour if you look up the mechanics beforehand
You can always just be that guy that has no mic, doesn't shoot the boss or the mobs, and quits the second you die. That's the new meta
The worst ones are the newbies who absolutely refuse to take any advice, despite them failing at their jobs many, many times. "Take off your glass cannon, so you don't wipe 6 times in the span of 10 minutes........"
ignores advice
dies 6 times
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hey hey glass cannon is fun... until you get shot
😛
hey hey glass cannon is fun... until you get shot
if they can hack it with GC, kudos to them 🙂
The fact that world difficulty still affects the amount of ads and boss health
Normal - challenging, same
Heroic - a lot of ads in one foot and the colour they are
Honestly don't notice that at all but ya know we always on heroic
I ran a test last week when someone said that and it proved to be false that the world difficutly doesnt affect any parts of the raid
mob veterancy is more random then it is based on world difficulty. Just play heroic in game and you will still see lots of reds/purples
ive had some world bits have a lot of elites on hard difficutly
Question : I missed a raid key right after Boomer. I have a total of 3 Keys and have the Razorback CP. Will I get another key after Razorback and have I missed any other keys on the way? Also if I complete Razorback and do not have enough keys, can I then join another group for the boomer key and use the checkpoint straight back to Razorback to open the chest? How will that work? All help appreciated.
You will get a key after EVERY razor back kill no matter how many keys you have. Yes you can do boomer again and get the missing key but you will HAVE to kill Razorback again to open the chest after
Yes you get a key for killing Razorback. No you haven't missed any other keys (there are five keys per fresh run)
4 keys from caches and the razor key drop
Out of certain doors in DH they amount that spawn out on heroic difficulty and in IH in C side at fieser there’s a lot of ads once once crucibles at 50%, during phases on 3rd a lot spawn out of different doors at same time being purples +, can’t see a difference on 4th boss
But on challenging it’s only a couple that spawn out doors and are less elites
Bs lol
the spawn amount is random
I’ll try it again next time on heroic and challenging difficulty
and your gonna need a larger sample size, just 1 or 2 runs based on feel isn't a way to provide data
and you will also have to provide ALL spawn counts, not just from 1 door
prime example is razorback, the spawn counts out of the spawn areas is random sets
I've 300+ lvl 40raids and there is no difference based on world difficulty
and theres no difference in health either as I debunked that last week
its becasue the raid is a completely different server and instance not even tied to the world (its on its own server)
Well I can see a difference between spawn times and rarity of ads. Will see and time how long it takes for ads to come out spawn doors
If you spawn trap doors on dh the ads can spawn from other doors. Doesn't mean more. Boomer room doors can sometimes spawn more ads sometimes less, depends how quickly you kill them before the nodes are taken down.
spawn time for adds is again random, just look at the 4th boss, the phase 2-4 adds are 1 shotgunner and 1 medic and they start coming out at the same time but then teh time between each coming out changes
and like it stated, its an entirely different server so any changes on the DC or NY servers doesn't affect the raid server
That’s why I’m usually on a skill build when my mate sets up the raid. It’s faster to kill them and they can stay in one spot. His difficulty is on heroic
Can someone help me out with the first raid? Like what build should be used etc
Just some little advice would be really helpful
My first raid was hilarious and awful. PUG and nobody knew what they were doing (myself included). Spent an hour and a half getting bomb-wiped at the Razorback before I quit. Two separate experienced players had dropped in during the raid and just lost their minds at how terrible everyone was. Good times 😄
"DOES A SINGLE ONE OF YOU KNOW TO PLAY RAID. 4 PEOPLE IN CIRCLE."
what does rv mean
raid voice, the channels here in discord
ight
Have anybody tried Jammer Pulse against 3rd boss Foam Seekers? Is it useful?
Yes it will jam them. If your jammer isn't strong enough it won't destroy them, but that's not actually an issue so long as nobody is within their radius when they're jammed; after they're unjammed they will just go back to Williams. It may be that they have to be jammed long enough for them to do that - I am not 100% sure
You can actually shoot them with foam chem launcher and if you have vile mask on it will kill them after they roll for 3s. Honestly demo grenade launcher works way better and an extra dps is far more useful for the duration of that map than a cc
I need the Foundry backpack - would it be better to keep running the whole raid or just farm Boss 4?
if you still need rav, boss 4, granted theres less chance of people getting "first" loots but teh chest can drop the parts too so between those, you do have an option.
chest
Each boss has their unique piece and is only part of the first kill table and the last piece is from the box only
anyone doing iron horse today?
@unborn pivot #lfg-raid-pc
Anyone running iron horse tonight or at any boss checkpoints
Need 4 for dh razorback
See above, please use the LFG-raid channels
ok thx
Lfg IH need 3
See above, please use the LFG-raid channels
Yo Ik to use the LFG for raid but. I have a question regarding raid I guess lol
I came back to the game like 2 months ago. Level 281 currently... I just want to do DH. But I don’t have experience with raid. 🌝.. how do I get exp if I can’t find a group lol..
Is experience the same as completion? Cause even if I ask to join knowing the mechanics. Most people still want people who have like so many completes
I mean I can’t help you there
If you want completions join a clan that raids a lot or just look for a “noob friendly” raid
key is to lie but know the raid inside out anyways
if you dont fail theyl never know
They can check completions :P
And I’ve seen some people ask them to wear patch or welder mask
hey eventually someone wont check
^ yeah they can check so I can’t do that, but alright thanks tho LOL
thats how i raided a lot in wow
lied until 1 group didnt check
thats all i needed to get 1 completion and go from there
can't you just farm last boss to fake completions?
Yeah but ppl ask for experience there too
yeah fake it till you make it
Yeh
😂
I am experienced!
shoots rocket at mozzarella
I just got off a group that did that. Bugged the final encounter
btw arent we clan mates now rshum xD
it's really strange with Neg bug though, they all screw up the final boss but they have different symptoms. Sometimes she doesnt say final lines, sometimes she does, the health and armour on Iron donkey gets all wonky...
Symptoms lmao
btw arent we clan mates now rshum xD
@mellow lark LSB? I dunno
@normal mirage didnt you apply to paradox? or am i confusing stuff
lmao I just wanted the SHD role for my character and I accidentally applied
ah xD
but yeah I am in the Paradox channel
yeye i saw you in the roster just remember seeing you apply
👍
now that you tell me this its pretty funny
Has any clan been able to unlock the clan insignia on their banner for finishing IH in one session?
We've done it a bunch of times already but it remains locked.
no we did it tonight no insignia
Thanks for confirming @placid cliff
for those that have gotten EB. You guys get it from the box? or the bosses
It’s possible from both
I know i am asking for those who have gotten, how did they get it lol. like personally
Ah I see lol
I know i am asking for those who have gotten, how did they get it lol. like personally
@versed hare 5 out of 5 from the box at the end
5 out of 5? you gotten it 5 times? yoooo L O L
Can someone explain to me the Iron Horse Exotic quest?
It's basically a chain quest. First, you beat the raid. It asks you to donate the FI and FB full sets, along with some materials.
Once you finish either, you get another quest with additional pieces of brand gear that you need to turn in.
Once you finish those two, you unlock the final quest, to get the pieces for Regulus.
Just use youtube you will find all explain what to do
On the first weekly clear after you get the Regulus quest, all the Regulus pieces drop from the bosses. Then you just need to craft a Magnum and instant Regulus.
5 out of 5? you gotten it 5 times? yoooo L O L
@versed hare there are many that have got it more than 5 times
LOOKING FOR GRP TO PLAY OPERATION DARK HOURS BTW IAM NEW
@tepid sand
- Use #lfg-raid-pc
- Don't use all caps
OK THX
lol
TFW you open the elevator in DH, but don't claim your key...
...that's like...slamming the door on yourself
So Negotiators can bug the last boss at IH, but i heard it also bugs Razorback. Is that true? what exactly happens with Razorback? Bc I know that in IH the Bullet dosent show up at the end
#578577794561474571 need group to join trying to get my first eb been very elusive new so don't have many clears but have a couple
When looking at CC and CD stats would you include for example the Coyote Mask in the stats when asked. Or do you just give the stats shown?
Looking for group for Operation Dark Hours, I have DPS build, only last BOSS I need for eagle bearer on Normal...
Any one for operations iron horse? Send me invite
@upbeat mesa I used Negotiator's on Razorback last night without issues
lfg both raids
Anyone doing DH raid?
@neon vector @frozen vector use #lfg-raid-pc and #578577794561474571
for those that have gotten EB. You guys get it from the box? or the bosses
@versed hare I got mine after 29 full (begin to end) clears. But that was a long time ago (before reset).
Dannggg okay okay
I’ve got my first from Razorback and 2nd from the box @versed hare
well thanks guys, i am just asking to get yalls experience 😄
Wow that’s very lucky @pulsar spoke
First was from 2nd run but 2nd eb took like 30-40 more runs
Well I’m back to attempting dark hours. Hopefully it goes well
does a normal laser pointer mod on a gun (not technician) 'pulse' targets?
@hoary ivy Sometimes, you can get it from the bosses but most of the time, you get it from the box
Anyone doing ironhorse?
27 mins not a bad time
anyone need one for the raid i havent beaten dark hours yet
@normal mirage Only the technician laser pointer pulses targets. Other laser pointers have other effects.
willing to run dark hours experinced several clears, JNA271980 on psn
come back
Anyone need a raid member?
any iron horse fresh raid?
Who wants to come to the last boss ???
can enter voice 8
I'm lookin' to join a IH raid group. I got DPS, CC/SE and healer builds. I kwtd. GT is name here
@proven bronze @pallid crater @wooden mango @lusty forge use #lfg-raid channels
Just discovered the 'add note' function in user right click menu. I wonder if it will let me copy/paste the word 'asshole'...?
Got the god roll M1A in IH 2nd boss today: Classic M1A, 15% Rifle Damage (max), %17 CHD (max), 15% swap speed (max), Boomerang. Will reroll swap speed to damage out of cover.
Noice
Got the god roll M1A in IH 2nd boss today: Classic M1A, 15% Rifle Damage (max), %17 CHD (max), 15% swap speed (max), Boomerang. Will reroll swap speed to damage out of cover.
@tender hollow jelly. Got something similar with the Baker's Dozen. Wish I got the m1a classic instead
Question: why do folk prefer the Classic M1A over the Baker's Dozen?
you can roll different talents on the classic M1A but you can't on the baker's dozen. Talents such as rifleman and boomerang
baker's dozen is really good if you are constantly firing in cover, but in raid settings that is not always the case
I like spamming Baker's so not sure if I'll swap over or not, but having the different talents lets you do more damage assuming you hit all the time
thanks, makes sense.
Trying to get through Foundry Raid First Time. XBOX. Anyone willing to run and help me out ? ADD me if you are Djxgam1ng
@tribal jackal use #578577794561474571
I don't get no response, so trying whatever avenue I can
Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different response is insanity....gotta switch it up. I think that channel is flooded with too many indians and not enough chiefs
@tribal jackal dude!
Have a good weekend
my bad. I wont do it again
Can't wait until my PC comes in. Much easier to find people on PC than xbox
lf1m for raid 1
@here need one more for raid
Best channel for getting another person?
Лфп железный конь, 40 лвл, опыт
Looking to Raid. Old or New doesn't matter. Game Tag same as name
The channel would be #lfg-raid-ps4
If you are looking for people to raid with use the specific lfg channels right underneath this one.
PC: #lfg-raid-pc
PS4: #lfg-raid-console
XB1: #578577794561474571
@sullen spoke 😡
@viscid oyster no need to ping the devs again, the mistake has already been acknowledged.
Read the pinned message if you haven’t already
For dark horse looot box u need keys from all bosses?
only last boss drops a key the rest you need from boxes that can only be looted once a week
and you need 5 keys to open the box you can farm the last boss for extra keys so you can open multiple boxes each week
and the exotic drop rate is around 1/8 to 1/10 from the boxes and prolly around 1/1000 or more from bosses
its the same for IH
Presumable the same cause dataminers haven’t actually dug up any values yet
But just assume it’s the same percentages for now
33 clears iron horse . One ravenous so far . I know everyone’s rng different but thought I’d share .
Question about Raid checkpoints: I have a checkpoint at Razorback. I join another game that is fresh and complete it. Do I still have my individual savepoint at razorback to do later (before reset)? Or did I lose the razorback checkpoint when completing the raid with another crew/save?
Good question @glass maple . I’m almost sure if you complete it you lose it . If you have another char I would use it . Simply start at cp with one char then leave and have them invite you and use your second char
thanks
Np
@stoic flintget back on ps4 and I'll let you carry me lol
anyone need damage bld 4 raid???
Raid for 3rd boss iron horse? New to the raid and if you have done it that would be awesome. Either way we need a 8th
Looking to do the raid and need 3
RPG spawn bug is annoying, anyone addressing this bug in massive?! is there a bug tracker we can check what they are focusing?
Looking for group for speed runs on the Iron Horse raid. I have plenty of experience and builds.
@tawny plover Im down doe speed runs Iron Horse. Im DPS or Tank
need 2 exp player for dark hour raid normal dm
looking for party for dark hour any?
need 7 for DH, i have razorback cp (msg. mlyons1996 for party invite)
Once you have crafted a regulus. Do the parts drop again if you do the raid again? Like with the liberty and dodge city holster in the open world.
CVBCBVHC
Lf dark hour raid group
This channel needs a mod for sure
Guys if you’re looking for a raid group use the correct channels. #lfg-raid-pc for PC. #lfg-raid-console for PS4. And #578577794561474571 for Xbox
I suck at copy and paste sorry
Guys if you’re looking for a raid group use the correct channels. #lfg-raid-pc for PC. #lfg-raid-console for PS4. And #578577794561474571 for Xbox
Ah ok no prob
Last BOSS RV8
@neat merlin Use #lfg-raid-pc
@orchid blade Read the rules:
- Any kind of advertisements are not allowed. No plugging of your content in the standard channels.
I wonder what happens if I mark razorback then start shooting another ad or on morzova 😏
Anyone dark hours?
@fresh moon normally no. Although there is a way to drop the parts again and again etc, but it may be considered as glitch/exploit in the future, so I wouldn't advise to do this.
the parts DO drop again if you move the gun to an alt character. And its NOT an exploit/glitch as its how its ALWAYS worked for all of the crafted exotics.
@smoky tapir I saw a different way to drop them, and it is more glitchy 😉
dunno why anyone would do it that way since the rate is 100% on first kill as long as you dont already have the part or the gun in your inventory or stash
ive farmed 4 of them already with no issue with alt characters
@smoky tapir how can I get the parts on 2nd character, when I don't have a regulus project? I have done 2 steps of the gearsets projects but the regulus project didn't show up.
it should be already active on your 2nd character, just make sure the gun is not on that character
the blueprint is universal between both characters
If you have completed the regulus project on a character, you get the blueprint. As long as you've bought the perk to share blueprints, you'll get the parts
(Again assuming you've moved the regulus to an alt)
If the regulus is in the stash, could it block the project to show up? Or the project won't show up because I completed it on 1st char?
And yes, I bought the blueprint on 2nd char.
Idk if the project will show up or not, but you definitely wont get the parts if the regulus is in the stash
i have a question i hope someone can answer it
can i open the chest multiple times with 1 character ?
What chest
raid chest,sry
iron horse
i know that morozova is farmable,so i can get keys from her
You should be able to, as long as you have keys
Np!
hey so quick question
I'm relatively new to raids, but have completed DH twice and IH once.
Once you've gotten the loot from the bosses, is there any incentive to run it again before the next weekly refresh? Or is there 0 loot?
Of course
you will always receive loot from the end of the boss fight
however, fi and bulwark pieces will have a lower percentage, or 0% (not sure) drop rate after the initial completion for each character, for each boss
oh nice
And did raid on Tuesday
Yeh
Gave it to a clanmate for his project
Now I just need the fi chest and pack
yeah I wasn't sure cause I do a ton of raiding after my first completion but I never got any of those drops after first time of the week
Yeh this was the first exclusive drop I got after the first clear ever
@wanton beacon hope that answers your question
I'm relatively new to raids, but have completed DH twice and IH once.
Once you've gotten the loot from the bosses, is there any incentive to run it again before the next weekly refresh? Or is there 0 loot?
@wanton beacon Yes. The FI chest is a must have. Just tag along in fresh raids and tell everyone that you need it for your healing build. When you pair it with Safeguard, everyone gets 25% more damage when they are at full armour, and you do 100% extra healing. i.e. its like up to 2 extra players in the group. If the group is struggling in any IH boss, it may be because the healer isnt using this build. imo its viable for boss 1 and 2 in the Dark Hours raid too.
Yeah what he said, all very good points^
nice
thanks for pointing that out. I've wanted to get the FI build but have been struggling recently
Hi i'm new to this discord thing, how du i join a raid IH with my ps4 character?
@waxen dagger You either post a lfg message yourself in #lfg-raid-console or you check the messages already in there and then usually message the person and ask if you can join or go to the raid voice channel they are in and ask directly to join their group.
thanks, i'll see if i can work it out
Congrats! 🥳
Congratulations @spiral hill 👏
Thanks lads!
@spiral hill Cheshire cat is a women pal or going off the picture needs to eat something as hes a bag of bones 🤣 (skeleton)
😂
Hey btw @valid marlin are the raid chats or voice chats all for PC or for all platforms
If you want to use Discord voice chats instead of console party chat you can do that.
After maintenance, get one quick if u want to finish @barren night
Thanx bud, i'll finish it after maintenance just need the last few parts for regulas.
we've seen regulas parts disappear after resets - i am wondering if you don't donate them, they go away
Does raid progress and loot reset in the same day? And which days is it?
Tuesday, it's today.
I was under the impression Raid progress was Thursday in line with the Clan.
Ok, this might be hated or disagreed on but what if the best way to introduce players to the IH raid is by boss 4 farming?
I feel like certain teams that fail to do Fieser and Williams can actually do Boss 4 within a few tries, its way less mechanic intensive but still requires coordination. Its a way to show dps players tank/healer builds are needed, helps them obtain the gear set pieces
@tribal jolt It was Thursday when they release the game if i'm recall correctly, but they changed it to Tuesday 0900 GMT/UTC long time ago
looking for active clan which do and finish raids!!!!!!!!!!
That would be #td2-clan-recruitment.
@summer girder teach the newcomers by going in fresh
Keep reminding them that failure will always happen and you gotta work on why and where did you fail
Even if the boss 1 is just DPS test you gotta teach em what to expect, the roles, what can they use (talking about flexibility)
IH boss 3 somehow is the hardest
IH boss in a nutshell :
Boss 1 : Hit the backpack and the Guardian
Boss 2 : Good communication is the key
Boss 3 : Hell
Boss 4 : Just RPG everything on the train
Yep the non linear difficulty scaling compared to dark hours is weird
and possibly might be a turn off for some players as well
Dark Hours after IH release is easy
But somehow they have something in common
DH boss in a nutshell :
Boss 1 : Hit the backpack ( But with the special mounted gun) , some time notice the tower
Boss 2 : Good communication ( But is ok if you know when to stop_
Boss 3 : Hell but easier
Boss 4 : Hit the Heavy in the a**
Boss 3 is tough. We tried a few different ways and now can do 15 min. 1 tank 1 CC 1 healer, 5 DPS move together. Boss phase tank face boss all DPS shot from up top.
tank do the panels, shield/sponge bullets, pickup the boss key. That way team won’t go down
@uneven garden everyone is already doing the same way.and dont need CC.and you dont need to move together before 3 pressure
Good to know thank you
I always enjoy watching the 'random' group ups trying to keep that "DPS group move together" part... It's rather entertaining 🙂
@halcyon sphinx hows your raid build getting on pal? 😏
@solemn bane stan!!! Yeah now I actually saved it and not using my month old one by mistake its mint 🤣🤣
Tuck your advice and join up on here 
@halcyon sphinx 🤣🤣🤣 good times buddy, stick up a request in the LFG section for a DH raid whenever you're free and ask for however many people to run it and we will get you an EB easy
Me and Dave will run it any night, so will be 5 max spaces
Gone put some thing up for Wednesday mate, will sort it when I finish work and knew I could count on you and dave 💪
She is some boy is Dave 🤣
Lol she's a beast that dave mate 🤣🤣🤣
Morning all. Noob available for raid
ND still bugging the last boss on IH
i dont think they have announced a fix for it yet since it was reported
^^
basic workaround is to make sure no one is using ND on that fight for now till they can figure out a solution and fix
there's also the rocket bug
I just want to say, why give damage caps on Dark Hours? AnI no shock on boomer.... Like i farm for my builds, to make that one special build u need.. Now u guys took away the farming with the map and the loot pool.. The raid doesn't really matter as long as u have basic dps.. Because damage stays equal.. How to destroy your fanbase in 6 Months.. U sold us out for casual crybabies.. I'm really upset.. U destroyed my favorite game.. Content is weak.. The whole game is a joke..
And let the times on the leaderboards stay as before.. So no way to beat it.. That was the only reason to play as all the other content is weak.. But yeah eqaul it out and make everything weak.. Weaklings rule the world nowadays..
appropriate name
If you wanna keep whining like that, might as well leave the server
Why because u can only say good things
You're a joke 2
I screenshotted it before u kick me for saying something negative..
stunning and brave
What good will that give you?
Then I can post in on reddit
U just gonna make a cheesy remark with leave if u dont like it
Well u should think if u are on the discord containing ubisoft.. Like if u don't like how the game is being destroyed then leave.. That's a massive 🖕
And I will make a complain about u as a moderator..
Yes complain about me enforcing the rules
Well see
🍿
I have the screenshot I let someone else decide
I mean, I could see you misinterpreting that, so it may be the wording on my part. But nonetheless, please change your atttitide, complaining won’t revert the changes
Is this still the raid discussion channel?
I'm joking of course, was lookin for good raid discussion content and had to scroll up too much lol
👀
@flint iris it doesn't matter how I interpret it, it's in how u response with a cheap answer and put it out.. U make ubisoft look bad with u as a moderator..
Like if u would work for me even for free, u wouldn't have to come back speaking to a customer like that..
i know right,
@flint iris He’s obviously trolling. Don’t engage.
So Sebastien's tweet on Morozova's rocket attack is interesting. If the issue is indeed lag, then I think it might be good for LFG channel to add some server info... such as this group here is mostly EU folks so if you're over in AU you might want to look for another group...
Been invited to raid but invites aren't appearing in game or on psn notification, any ideas?
You can check under social for pending invites. The spot might also be filled if they invited multiple people
@stoic flint game sucks in your words but you're still in here today crying about it. just leave LOL
anybody have any ideas on fixes for the code changing on boss 2 on Iron horse
@wooden hazel you guys using exotic weapon shooting the boxes? Some say that's the reason for it. We don't use them and we never get the bug now.
i see thanks for letting me know
@weary niche
I also read shotguns can be a problem. Our clan doesn’t use exotics or shotguns on the panels and haven’t had the bug since @wooden hazel
I use eb to shoot boxes and zero issues
@limpid obsidianI main shotguns and never have a problem, including with Sweet Dreams. The guy who runs C with me uses EB. I believe it's just the Ravenous that causes issues
Shotguns and most exotics should be fine...they are for us
@wooden hazel We had this too sometimes, but exotics didn't seem to cause this as far as we could see.
Didn't encounter this anymore once we ensured no one is running NegDilemma on boss 2 and 4.
If you guys would like to add me on uplay, my name there is Zilyanna. I'll be on majority of the day tomorrow, will be looking for Dark Hour groups (successfully completed it one time, so still learning) and wanting to learn iron horse (0 attempts). I have a decent DPS build for DH and I have a pretty good healer build. Looking forward to playing with yall in the future!
Nobody in my group runs negotiators @dapper gyro it seems to happen when we try and speed run
Weird then. We first also thought it's because of exotics, but proved it works with the exotics we tested.
So we thought it might be NegDilemma then since it also messes with boss 4, and never had probs since we started to ensure no one runs it there.
I assume since you speed run you probably mainly run GC DPS, so there's also no one running anything else special that could transfer marks/damage by accident like EP or Vile mask or skills hitting a box, hm 🤔
Maybe just a glitched session then, when we encounter too many weird things we usually leave and let someone else start the raid.
Oh other thing that comes to mind, think I read that the codes might reset if someone enters the boss pit, never kept an eye on it though.
@wooden hazel oh I stopped playing after year 2.. Bought a pc for change and to go top10 on ps4 and pc.. Now it's impossible.. Like I omly speedrun.. Will still speedrun but they screwed the leaderboards again.. So for me there is almost no need to farm... Maxed out on ps4 and pc..
But to screw the people that didnt glitch to get a good time.. Why screw the 1% that is capable to do it.
do blueprints drop only during the first run of the week?
Thanks
Like of they reset the leaderboards, I'm ok with it.. But now there is no Competition.. @steel ruin please address it..
Game is already 1.5y in, at this point half devs are probably already working on Division 3. Like we knew on Division 1, the bugs and clitches never went away, the game went more unstable every single update and they didn't care. But don't forget that's what business is, they gonna give us about 2-3 years content and then new game, where everything starts from beginning. We all know that game shape is insanely bad, but let's be honest there is nothing similar to play, that's why we are playing. So don't waste breath or time complaing, because it's gonna only go worse @stoic flint
@stoic flint Read the rules:
- Any kind of unsolicited direct messages or mentions to Ubisoft Employees or Moderators is not allowed.
RV 13 IH
@silver plover Use #lfg-raid-pc
@stoic flint so you quit game but still sat here whining about it? Why not just leave if you don't like the game, you obviously can't leave the game fully hence you're still here
@smoky tapir so does the rocket guy come out the same door the normal ads spawn at B?
on boss 2, theres shouldn't be any rocket guy at B
Oh ok
Rocket guys are A and C
water valves, ya, 3 at A, 2 at B and 2 at C
Ah cool k thanks
also control room/error code cheat sheet: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/663745180377022513/728708007063715840/ZomboMeme_03072020222314.jpg
only need the first letter from the error code to know what panel it is
Whats everyone's fastest time on iron horse?
@gaunt grail last i checked somewhere in 16 mins mark
i believe im around 25-30min range
@smoky tapir full run?
ya
Number one on leaderboard is 33
leaderboard has issues and isn't accurate
also control room/error code cheat sheet: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/663745180377022513/728708007063715840/ZomboMeme_03072020222314.jpg
@smoky tapir Thanks!
Are the sub 40s an accurate and clean clear?
its easily clearable sub 40
hi its any easy way to get aggro on morazo ? (ih last boss)
not really
Or is this that one person leaves after boss 1 and returns after boss 4 to reset clocks BS
Use the decoy
decoy somewhat works but isn't a lot you can do to keep her controlled
I'm usually on stagger Morazova duty and I run a skill tier six decoy with as much skill duration and haste as possible
so decoy in the middle throwing?
We did it on 46 minutes and the leaderboard says 46 min for our team......
She will eventually shift her aggro to someone else before the decoy is done though, so then I just deconstruct and throw again when available
@echo vector which build you playing?
Thats around where we did and it was a flawless run. Just wondering if this sub 40 run is legit with nobody leaving. Not saying we cant shave a min here and there but our runs are clean
@smoky tapir isnt on the board over me I'm not looking under but I think its a lie
cause thats not my ingame name for one and again as i stated, teh leaderboards are a busted mess, ive seen people say they have a time then the next, min its a different time
1 murakami 3 alps (throwing away the repair skills) 1 hana U 1 Improvised holster with skill tier
no one cares about the boards as they have been a broken mess since they were introduced
Id like to see the breakdown for a 35 min run. I know exactly how long it takes to run from one boss to another and its almost 8 mins total just running through the level.
So all bosses were beat in 27 mins? Id like to see the time for each
@next bobcat are u wiping after each boss? That kills 4 mins
sub 40s are relative easy now. We messed up at the second boss and did a 30ish minute run
Like someone walked in and died and it came out under 40 min
@gaunt grail no, thats what im kinda asking. When people are calling sub 40 is it a legit full run
when you dont need to do any key things and everyone knows what they are doing, sub 40 is easy
^
Well people are killing the bosses wiping to clear adds at boss 2 you enter next phase with snipers after wipe so you shave time that way
You can also carry rockets from 3 to 4 and not wait to kill ads on 4th just run out and kill heavy for key
theres lot of points you can carry rockets forward and save a lot of time
Not if you wipe after each boss
nah there are key trick for the 4th boss which takes out 3-4 rocket spawn phases at the beginning
@gaunt grail thats what I assumed. Not interested in the wiping mechanism though.
thats like 3-4 minute there
If you wipe after each boss you lose rockets except on boss 3
@drowsy totem you mind giving me the brief meaning behind the boss 4 spawn phases? Or a reference would be cool
Just curious. Looking to shave 4-5 mins without wiping to hit sub 40
The rocket spawn roughly on a 15 second interval if there isnt one on the ground. Your need quite a few specific builds pre saved. After the third boss, you switch to those build and the turret will never spin and attack in the first and last phase of the fight. You can also dps 2-4 two mortar cannon things in that phase. Ignoring the rocket spawn timer.
Ah gotcha. Ok cool thats enough to work with thx
To win time you need to kill heavies before they jump down on last boss, that will save you 30 seconds each
On PS4 28min is for sure doable
you also keep the boss's hp at 1 hit before she does that wipe mechanic the moment the bullet is down
and you do force teleport her. After each phase
1 hit is pretty insane and risky, we usually do like half bar, with pistol build or nemesis you gonna get over a bar down anyways on a shot
That of course, but I never gonna try to get those sub 30min times
I love when people advertise those exp runs
you join the group, /inspect and you see that one dude with full yellow with a drone and turret, glass cannon and lady death. Then they say i am experienced and proceed to get clapped in 1 hit.
Go hard or go home
ok i have a question like the last chest that u need ur keys for each raid does it reset every week or if u have many keys u can keep on opening it?
you keep opening it
ok thanks 🙂
There are 4 SHD caches in the raid that each award a key and are openable once per week per character. The last boss also awards a key on kill each time (no limit). The box can be opened anytime you got 5 keys and theres no weekly limit on the number of times you can open it
L46 for Dark Hours Raid
use the LFG channel so its relevant to your console/system
@valid marlin when there is a law about it, i will.. well UBI should understand they need to get rid of thier current employees.. one day we are all gone.. for someone played over 7000H om div1 and 2.. at this point im not even considering buying div3... like i suppose they want to make money.. fixing the 1% that aint broke in the raid.. but let us play a 90% broke game. like the people playing now will move on.. others will stay but it will be a few.. no content from streamers... good job!!
i strat to think its laundering money.. because with all the work that needs to be done to fix all the glitches.. it cant be a goldmine.. more like aluminium
lets start another sale for 1 dollar lol
dont even tallk about the time it took to give us the raids... and still couldnt do it right..
Considering there's no monthly fee I"m not sure what you expect. If you're at raid level you have far more hours into Division 2 than I put into God of War, and that's not a money laundering thing.
i think they out of money
Oh, 7000 hours? Yeah, that's clearly not worth the money you spent. I don't buy games unless I get at least 10,000 hours per dollar I spend.
Division 2 was a flop.
Division 2 was a failure. Of course they're not going to put money and resources into it.
like i wanted it to be like that
thats why i am upset, why change something that aint broke.. but let us play a game with no other real content..
i think they made the wrong choice giving in to players that want to play 2h a week go with an all blue set into the raid cant finish it and complain its too hard..
or maybe i am just too good
There's nothing "Good" about maxing your gear. It's not skill. It's time investment to compensate for poor skill. People who clear min iLvl are too good. People who insist on max iLvl are a joke. (In any mmo)
i dont believe that
like making a good tac build,, or a maxed out nemesis
with all the pieces maxed out.. that was kinda hard and u needed that to do the crazy things
like i did the raid since day1
I don't buy games unless I get at least 10,000 hours per dollar I spend.
@little zephyr .... your joking right?
@icy hull Yes I was making fun of him 😛
ah okay, i was going to say....
Dude I just paid $20 for Carrion, beat it in 4 hours and it was AMAZING
im dont play other games.. i started gaming with div1
^sad for you to say you started with gaming with division lol
why? i was doing drugs and playing girls
you.... you do see how that's MORE sad, right?
would be sad if i was gaming
we all did that once
i dont believe that at all
Overcompensaaationnnn~~~
well i cant help it im great
what is really sad if u have 2000h in div2 but cant speedrun.. and u play other games
Why would i want to play this game for 2000h id rather kill myself thanks
to be on number1
that goes with most mmo''s or looter shooters
i like to win
no point lol
i never understood why you want your name to be #1 on anything means plain and simple you wasted your life away
Is there even a tracker for speed runs otherwise its absolutely pointless.
on ps4 and 7 bwhen the glitches were deleted
Division 2 is a great game. It has its flaws like any non-subscription game. But let's be honest, if THIS is the game you chose to hang your hat on... kiiinda sad.
if you want peoplee to know your speed runs go play destiny 2
lol u dont even know?
i dont care to know
i agree
like it makes you better than me just because of a speed run is pure stupidity.
lol
no one cares if you beat some stronghold in 14 mins.
^ why would I
well of course you dont want to raid for 6 hours on each attempt
what I want to know what is the OVERALL player count in this game
its shit it has to be lul
with the leaderbords stuck on 8 because they trapped boomer
true
why does Ubisoft and Massive have hide player counts are they that scared that this game is a flaming pile of dog s***.
and then they remnoved it but the times stay
So hold up, aside from the world's saddest pissing contest you're trying to have.... you're saying that Ubisoft is using Division 2 as a money laundering scheme just because they don't cater towards the 70000+ hour speedrunning community?
In between doing drugs and "playing girls" have you tried... going to school? Getting a job?
playing girls lol dumbest comment ever
google lol
why
when you kinda want to know what the blocked messages are but at the same time, rather not. Also this isn't the channel for this. #off-topic-discussions
It was initially LOOSELY based off Raid Discussion. But you're right 😛
Aw cmon that gif was perfect.
I feel like this conversation is actually making me dumber
I didnt want to be the gif guy
i just said i didnt like but i dont know why people have to get offensive..
On-topic, though. If you have 7000+ hours in a game. You have likely cost the company in server load than you paid for the game. You aren't owed a thing, much less special attention.
Especially since D2 was like, $3 recently 😛
i bouht 2 full price
and year2 full price twice
div2 is my game and i just dont agree
so i say it
I think you just need to stop playing it if makes you so angry
and then some girly boys start bitching
There are better things to do then get mad on a discord
im not its the community being softies.. my teams are great only winners
and we will still destroy anyone on the leaderbords
just dont see the point of reversing the shock locking the leaderbords
and heard its the same for IH
@stoic flint you are soo mad its hilarious
That's great to hear you support blm! That's incredible!
i dont lol
i do think black lives matter but i dont like the movement.. i really believe all lives matter.. but thats bad now a days..
without movement there wont be a progress
not evry movement brings progress
its a bloody path but other minorities are getting helped by that too
well over here its getting pretty bad.. i come from a black neighboor hood in Amsterdam and thier is so much help for "black" people and white families are forgotten its all about color now a days
and i always believed everyone was eqaul
Not the time nor the place
true
This is #td2-raid-discussions
Can I get all the exotic parts for the Regulus in 1 run ?
If its the first run of the week - yes
ta
I completed the raid yesterday and the project today so I guess I will have to wait til first run next week?
Yeah
you "can" get the ingot part from the chest anytime but doesn't help complete it any faster since first clears usually get all the keys as well
Can anyone explain all these shortcuts in the lfg-raid-pc chat
I just got to T5 and I wanna start some raids
What shortcuts do you struggle with?
basic application: Someone advertises in the LFG channel they are either LFM or LFG. If they have a group they will more often advertise a voice channel to join or to DM them for a private discord channel. When you join that voice, you will add the leader to your friends list in Uplay so they can accept and add you to the raid (raid groups can only be made between friends and clan members). Leader then will invite you to the raid and your set
What he said ^^^
But basically:
lfg == looking for a group
lfm == looking for * member ( being a wild card place holder)
DH == dark hours
IH == iron horse
I hope that answer your question to some extent @elfin coral
it does @vagrant wing thanks bud!
You too @smoky tapir !
The only issue left is that people don't really play with rookies lol
if you at least watch videos on each of the fights and read bout strats, it will give you a lot of knowledge. IH in particular is not new player friendly
Good lord is IH not new player friendly.
So I should start from the dark hours
The 2 raids are very different. Completing DH won't help you towards IH at all (imo ofc). But yeah, start there, it's easier, less frustrating and shorter
if you learn the Raid and let people know "i know the raid mechanics through YT vids, but am new to the raid". people are MUCH more likely to take you. @elfin coral
or if youre really good at not fucking up, just lie
The new gear set pieces (future initiative and bulwark chest and bp) are locked behind IH @elfin coral
but if youre bad at not fucking up it will backfire
Need 3 for dark hours raid
oh wow really? 3 is enough?
@elfin coral he means he need 3 more
also wrong channel... @icy surge
oh lmao
Hey, how difficult do people believe Iron Horse is? Been thinking of doing it since I completed dark hours long ago, But I'll admit it a bit intimidating with it being the newest raid and having zero experience with it.
for new players, its difficult due to needing communication and all the mechanics of the fights. It gets easier the more experienced teh group is but its no cakewalk
I do NOT recommend doing the raid without reading and/or watching some strats about the fights
Wow
Thanks.
the strats ARE straightforward, just do the job your assigned to do and it goes quite smoothly
so IH raid requires DLC or na?
need 1 for dh
I'm not so sure, every group that I've done IH with, Boss 2 usually takes a 2nd try. Boss 3 takes around 3~5 attempts...
@icy surge try the LFG channels
the water pressure on boss 2 can be tricky on timing it seems... But hilariously enough, if folks are good at their jobs, there doesn't seem to be an enrage factor? (especially if folks keep adds controlled and do the rocket bit).
still not sure why boss 3 has such variance. I guess it's just a lot of moving parts.
ya theres no timer (in fact the commentation forces you to wait if going for it)
Last night when we did IH, at boss 2 there was no water on the cannon at the A side despite sending water down. We'd only ever used the cannon on the C side before (and we'd never had an issue with it). Were we just too late in getting to the cannon or does only the C side water cannon work?
too late
if you pull the lever at the wrong pressure, it drop by 7-9 instead of by 3
Ohhhh that might've been it
I'm pretty sure I pulled the lever whenever it let me, and it might've been 86 or 87
yeah the water pressure is supposed to be between 80~85 (or at least that's what the sign says)
Right
Watching today's SOTG, I was most shocked to see no mention of the horrible sound glitches that present themselves in the Iron Horse raid (alarm sounds, gun sounds, enemy sounds, explosions, music, etc.). This make an already difficult activity that much more (needlessly) difficult, and waste player's time, as the only way to fix the sound glitch is to close and restart the game. It happens in every run, for multiple people. I hope to get acknowledgement of these issues, and confirmation that work is being done to finally fix them (the sound glitch has been in the raid since it first launched).
I mention this glitch on Reddit, as well as others that are happening throughout the raid.
https://www.reddit.com/r/thedivision/comments/i4e88y/current_iron_horse_bug_list_sound_going_out_is/
Anyone have room for a first time raid runner?
depends on your group really. with a good group about 20mins iirc, but bad group could be hour+ if its completed at all (for DH).
razorback should be about 11-12 minutes max
it's faster than morozova, but it's about the same skill requirement
I just got the regulus on my main character, and I have 3 other characters do I have to farm just i did for main or can I craft it for each character
As long as you have bought the sharing blueprints perk from inaya (i assume you have), you can just complete the raid with your other chars and get the pieces to craft it again. You don't have to do all teh donation projects again
Just make sure your regulus isn't in the stash when you do it. The game can't think that your char has access to a Regulus otherwise the parts won't drop
What does KWTD stand for in the lfg raid channel? I think it was for key farming the last boss right?
KWTD = know what to do
anyone else did the raid for IH flawlessly but didn't get the commendation? No one disconnected, no one fast travelled, and no hard-wipes on any agents...
I haven't personally attempted that but I've seen reports on reddit about that too
but if youre bad at not fucking up it will backfire
@mellow lark I think its better you say your are new, that way people will cut a bit of slack, explain things etc. If your pretending to be experienced, and your not, people will just think your a really bad player, and you go on their avoid (unless you want to do a 5 hr raid) list
say that to those who require SHD lv 2000 lol
@normal mirage The commendation ye, but not the clan one
Any dark hour raid for pc?
Looking for advice on operation dark horse. I cannot manage to clear it
@astral pawn I’m getting mixed messages, which raid?
Sorry typo dark hours*
Thanks for the advice
@astral pawn sorry but that’s not really advice, just telling you the group composition
For boomer you want 3 on boss,
Including turrets
And one “floater” in the middle, maybe a healer
The rest is spread out on ads
Hit boomers pack, everyone shoot at him, rinse and repeat
How would I carry a team so to speak?
You want to be the one calling the shots a string everyone what to do
There isn’t a minimum
But I’d say 50/140 would be a pretty good start
It’s by no means optimal tho
Thank you again for your time
Np
Need one IH fresh raid
@fossil pollen Use #lfg-raid-console
@valid marlin don’t bother telling them. If they can’t find people it’s on them for not finding the right channel
Someone has to, or this channel would be flooded with lfg posts that don't belong here 🙃
Need a bot that mutes them for like 15min if they do a lfg post outside of the channels 😛
A teacher in learning how to read and understand what you read would be nice aswell
Whats a raid
8 player activity
When a group of people get together and run a type of mission called a raid
Vs bots?
Operation Iron Horse and Dark Hours are the two raids in div 2. And yes it's vs NPCs
I remember having to reach a certain level to even start a raid, so i never tried it xd
Thnx
wrong channel, use #lfg-raid-pc
Don't team with @tidal coral He will steal anything he can from you.
@tidal coral that wont work. like i said nobody team with him
lol k
LFG= Looking For G??...i'm new here:P
@meager snow Looking for Group - or Looking for men
@coral gulch thanks 😄
Should be 'Looking for Agents'
Calling someone out for stealing really isn't though since its mostly your fault that someone takes a dropped item. Theres no "trade" method in the game, a dropped item is fair game by anyone. If your going to do a trade either do it ina isolated corner away from everyone or go into their session/group and trade there.
its frowned upon sure but you really can't "steal loot" outside of the DZ
Is it possible to do operation iron horse in discovery mode? i just did it for dark hours but cant find the option for iron horse
I believe the devs said they're adding that at some point, but it's not available atm
dont play with @tidal coral he is a theft stole 2 eagle's
When a friend drops it for you he runs up and steals it did it to some other dude to
He dont need them he is just being a ahole about it
imo he should be banned from the discord but i guess thats why im not a admin lol
I am amused how he's changed his name twice on here....too bad for him I already added a note saying don't play with him. And the tag changes to his new name, so it really didn't accomplish anything
ik i did the same only thing you have to do is check his numbers his is #3939
Honestly morozova should’ve had a tad bit of visual armour
She looked like a normal soldier to me
She definitely had armour
At the end she wasn’t wearing her helmet
At the start she was
She wasn’t wearing her helmet for the whole time for me
¯_(ツ)_/¯
I wonder where a hyena raid would be situated
But like, why would the Division bother to send 8 agents for that
Imagine a raid on the underground faction
Just a massive underground structure
Upvote on @warped violet suggestion
There better be a bunch of chainsaw guys to scare the shit out of me when im looking for keys
lfg iron horse last boss
use #lfg-raid-<your platform>
there should be a bot that uses regular expression to capture 'lfg' in this channel and just auto reply with a clear, concise and friendly message to use the appropriate channels
anyone want to do a raid
@willow idol use #lfg-raid-pc
@normal mirage sigh...... I agree with your idea
I Just wish... maybe some people will look around
there should be a bot that uses regular expression to capture 'lfg' in this channel and just auto reply with a clear, concise and friendly message to use the appropriate channels
@normal mirage Something like "Can't ya read? You cunt! No wonder you can't find a group 😠 " Or is that still too friendly?
When u don’t have the shd level to raid w the boys 😭
When u don’t have the shd level to raid w the boys 😭
@runic bison you don't need the shd lvl at all. You can raid with shd lvl 1
@vagrant wing no shit but lots of groups want high shd levels bc of the buffs to dps it gives
That's another problem then
When morzova kills Z there’s no blood. 0/10 raid
What is IH And rv mean?
I'm coming back new to div and raids and shiz so tryin to learn
Iron Horse
ahh
rv I have no idea
people say like rv5 and stfuff
Oh raid voice channel
ahhhh
So can regulas piece and ravenous drop out the box same time?
Cause I can’t be bothered logging into main and transferring over the regulas
Recreational vehicle
Just joined a group where the leader insisted on all players running Skill build and stinger hive with turrets on first boss (IH) for a flawless attempt... failed 3 times and all left..... is that a used strategy?
Well kinda yeah. the turret can be useful for sure, as for the stinger hive? first time i'm hearing this. SolidFPS did a vid about a skill build (oxidyzer variant) for the first boss, but you still need a healer, overcharge and ofc know when to shoot the boss' BP @coral gulch
Yeah this is the first time I'm hearing of someone trying a stinger hive. I know oxidizer works
Yeah Ta - it certainly did not work - I will stick to my DPS - also It largely depends on the capabilities/strength of the agents too I guess - flawless with randos - I think I will just get lucky with a damn fine group sometime. Lots of great players - some... mmm
for that might as well just run the pvp builds.
4/2 or 3/3, you do enough damage with 3/4
takes a while longer to kill but that armour helps a lot.
@coral gulch with the right DPS builds zero skill dmg is required on the boss to DPS him down quickly. No overcharge, no pulses.
i saw a group earlier. Advertise for flawless. I /inspect the group. 3 people are in there with glass im like lul
Yeah @next bobcat Done it like that everytime....
What do you guys think about placing DPS guys in a fan around the boss or on a line near the train?
When near the train someone runs technician and drops a turret for shock and disruption immunity
why ?
You don't get backstabbed by NPC's if you are not quick enough killing the boss
If NPC's are getting close enough to your team before the boss goes down youre not doing it fast enough.
If you are having problem with the npc, its not the boss's problem. Its your group. Its shit
bit strong...
You dont have enough dps. NPC should not even come out the door. They should be dead before they step out of the spawn area
Gotta agree on that point tho. Most are fairly casual playing the game
No such thing as a casual and successful raid lol
Hmm..
We got to 3rd boss without much problem. Have to cook up a strat to get them through that
3rd are messy with a bad group
Yeah, shits falls apart there pretty often
especially when you have rtrd that runs up with the chain when alarm is sounding
sorry
What would a fairly easy to execute strat be for boss 3?
Thinking about all run as a group. Or we do for example power, everyone clears up the adds there, set up camp between blue and red, do that color, go to last color.
that takes too long
What would a fairly easy to execute strat be for boss 3?
@tame pawn When you start shooting the red cogs, everyone starts gradually going up to level 2 or 3 except for the tank. In the final fight only the tank should be on the ground floor, and the tank's job is to aggro the boss so that the weakspot on the back faces everyone in the tower to shoot. I've done it with 7 people like this, and its easy doing it this way. But if some people decide they do not want to go up or the tank decides not to do this, then it will most probably go pear shaped.
thats going to be clutch in terms of time. Best would be everyone spread out for the panels/ pac man (or cogs)
nah you dont need to go up. You just need someone to deal with the adds. Sniper -> heavy -> shotty/turret ammo box -> random trash. in that order. @tender hollow
nah you dont need to go up. You just need someone to deal with the adds. Sniper -> heavy -> shotty/turret ammo box -> random trash. in that order. @tender hollow
@drowsy totem it depends on the team. If you have a top tier DPS team, you can do anything. But with randoms, this is the best strategy I've seen for success
The thing is if the tank dies you are f'ed with that. The boss will just run into an spot where you cant shoot at it.
I agree. Theres no single template that applies to all imo. You need a transferable method for rando groups particularly weaker ones. Unless you have all day that is.
dont need all day. Just make some random excuse and leave that group. Dont need to suffer when other people are incompetent. 😄
The thing is its a clan raid and would be hard to ditch them
Gaming is suppose to be fun. I am not going to spend hours suffering with a group because someone is lacking dps or having glass cannon
We set a runtime and play untill that time is reached
To prevent making it an 7-8 hour run or so
with randoms the tank will most probably die. but this gives you the best fighting chance vs boss 3. you can throw a revive hive to revive the tank and if the healer isn't incompetent they should be tossing some heals the tanks way. dps should be tossing decoys too between the boss and the outer wall.
Out of all the raids I did, there is probably 1-2 people that know how to use glass and the rest of the time you just see the rest of the group ignoring the dead glass cannon user on the floor. No one have time to revive you and see you die 10 secs after
Yeah, glass canon is a no go. Except to burn boss 1 asap
Thanks for your ideas and pointers. I know how to do the boss myself, but was wondering about some easy to use strats
what gets a lot of people on the first boss is that they just ONLY focus on the boss and not the shield adds. The Shield Adds WHILE they are alive add a % Damage Reduction to the boss until they die. If you dont kill them, the boss takes a lot less damage then if you were to kill them.
Having 1 or 2 ND users keeps the shield adds fully in check and allows them to die quickly
In reality if you have enough dps, the second wave shouldnt spawn at all. The boss should be dead before you have to deal with more shield guys
Yep
but thats what i see a lot of groups wipe on is if the 2nd shield group DOES come out, they completely ignore it and boss damage goes to poop and he starts gaining a lot of blue bar cause they ignore them
1st boss dies before second wave of shield = you are going to have a good time
1st boss dies after the second wave of shield = raid is going to be an so so run
1st boss dies after 3rd wave or more of shields = you are going to have a bad time
you wipe on the 1st boss = gg im not even going to stay.
1st boss IH is like the Boomer DPS check. If the group is struggling on 1st boss, its a bad sign
^^ kinda true though i was in 1 group where we wiped on teh first boss till I went healer and the other 3 bosses were 1 shot smoothies
Good thing we can get boss down before second shield guy wave spawns. We run 3 sweet dreams. I run healer with btsu, FI and opportunistic for damage buffs 🙂
The bigger problem might be that we are not yet familiair enough with boss 3 to get everyone on the same page. We ll see on our next run.
Thanks again for the pointers and replies
boss 3 is addicted to decoys
he isnt tht strong. Just that annoying af healing
having cc guy for boss 3 helps a lot
anyone up for new raid
wrong room
@summer girder he has decoy fetish, i see.
Boss 3 just needs a hug.
@wary moat having a properly geared team that is also competent helps a lot
of course
Boss 3 just needs a hug.
@timber rune don't we all?
I always need hugs.
me too except I never get them
Go hug boomer.
He will just yeet you across the room
So a group I ran with the other day had a different way to handle the cogs on Boss 3. Apparently you can listen for the click at each valve turn for the cogs and the game plays a slightly different click when you turn the cog to the correct setting.
Definitely felt like it sped up that phase as there's less "oops you went to far"
Go hug boomer.
@timber rune already do. I give the Black Tusk a hug everytime someone yells wipe. Clearly they're just sad, that's all
I hug NPCs with sweet dreams.
@narrow dirge nah you have to count it. listening to it isnt 100% accuate when all 3 are going at once
as someone who's soloed the cogs often, there is no way to tell when your at the right cog BEFORE the loud click. Due to sound issues the cog spinning sound has 2 different sounds as 1 part of it can get cut off while turning (and where its located doesn't matter)
What you CAN do is take note of the position of the cogs at teh start of the fight so you know exactly how many turns each one needs. (note they all rotate clockwise if i recall)
i just put it into chat to remember starting from the left to right (wall to wall on the blue valve level)
when I solo I just let go roughly before the indicator and then just rotate it one notch at a time. Works like a charm every time
yup even if you "didn't prior know, its very easy to turn them 1 click at a time"
till you get the locking sound
saying stop 1 click before the orange dot align always work
when you're under the bridge of boss 4, from raid 2: sometimes the mortars are fired under the bridge, right on top of the crew. Is there any way to prevent that, please? 🙂
The way you "would" stop it is by killing the mortar's every phase as well
basically dont have anyone in that spot early, generally they wont target there then
Usually, on the last phase, we have two mortars left, sometimes three. And we'd like to understand why sometimes he shoots at us and sometimes in front of us without hitting us. :/
but its designed that if you "dont" want any mortars, you kill them after you kill the shell
last phase should have zero motars since they would all be dead from the IH killing phase
first phase we kill all the mortars.
Second phase: we only manage to kill one mortar, otherwise it reappears while we're under the bridge.
Third phase: we kill one more mortar. (so we are during 2 phases with 3 live mortars.) Note that there are lasers at this phase.
Fourth phase: we focus the boss because the train is dead when we get out of the bridge at that moment.
And then it's over, we collect the objects.
Each time I say "phase" it is that we go under the bridge to protect it. The problem we have is that we have players dying from mortar fire during phase 2 and 3 of our development. We wanted to know if there was a way not to get mortars all over us ^^'"?
because you manage to kill all the mortars before going under the bridge every time?
@smoky tapir
if you dont want any mortars you have to kill all 4 each phase. But they really are trivial to take a motar hit as your healer with hive should be albe to keep people up even if they wern't behind the shield
but mainly just dont have anyone near the area until the sirens go off at the start of each wipe phase
you don't need to rush under there if the boss in a good position
and if you see a mortar, you can have your group move to a side.
the gun doesn't one shot people and the ticks on it are slow enough that the hive can heal you full before the next tick from teh gun
but you don't waste time killing mortars? We don't understand at all your game steps on this raid if you kill everything, haha!
Even with the mortars, people shouldnt die if you have a semi competent healer
^
So it's impossible to play with glass cannon? ^_^
you shouldn't be usign glass cannon in the raid
Yann_LMPAujourd’hui à 19:43
I was told there was an issue with mortars repopping in the phase if you tried to kill 2 or more of the mortars?
a) its not needed as survivability is more the issue with the raid, its not a dps check
they repop every phase and is intended so its a waste of time to kill them
the only thing killing them each phase does is remove getting mortared each time
but its not needed outside of the first phase
getting mortared while in the wipe phase isnt the end of the world if you have a decent healer
just dont be near the front if you are taking a mortar hit
but really you shoul just move, you dont HAVE to be behind the tanks shield for the gun shooting at you, a healing hive can heal the damage
unless your wearing Glass Cannon, in which case, your using the wrong talent if you don't know how to survive
we take them under the bridge, the mortars, that's our problem. Do you have to be at the bottom of the river not to take them?
you will get them occasionally, you cannot prevent that without killing all 4 every phase.
you lessen the chance if NO ONE is near the tunnel until AFTER the wipe phase siren's begin
when you're under the bridge of boss 4, from raid 2: sometimes the mortars are fired under the bridge, right on top of the crew. Is there any way to prevent that, please? 🙂
@glacial nimbus using decoys can help you distract those mortars
if people are standign there and that phase HASN"T started yet, they are doing it wrong
unless if its time to go to the middle and has the red eyes
multiple decoys in front of tank can help distract those mortars
Hi guys, thanks for all the info (I was kinda asking questions by proxy with Leiiko)!
we take them under the bridge, the mortars, that's our problem. Do you have to be at the bottom of the river not to take them?
@glacial nimbus no, mortars still can hit you even in deepest part if that tunnel
I think our issues is mainly that we regroup far too soon in the middle, before the sirens go off, so we'll try
and like i stated as well, if a mortar is coming, move out of the circle of it even under the bridge, the gun isn't going to kill you if you have a semi decent healer
Alright I've noted that as well, got to trust our healer for that part
because to explain, our problem is not the raid, we get there, but sometimes we have a mortar falling right in the middle of our line under the bridge, while the turret is firing. And those in glass cannon die (me haha) so I try to find a solution to keep glass cannon because only there I lose my life. Only, it really annoys my group a lot :/
no one should ever be using glass cannon in the raid if they don't know how to survive. There is no DPS checks so unbreakable is the defacto go to as its survivability
if you wanna deal more damage, use obliterate
or that
and boss cant be rushed or skip any mechanics
lost count the number of times i join a group, several are wearing GC or PGC and can't stay alive at all and the run ends up in a wipe
lol those green lasers turret, can instantly kill any gc users
@glacial nimbus also the best measurement for time to go inside the tunnel is watch the boss go inside that trailer office
if you see the boss outside, 100% chance the bombard wont happen yet
ya the bombard only starts after she enteres the far building so the longer she has to run, the more time you get
Yeah we try to kite her as far as possible from the trailer so we have more time to regroup
re: Laser turrets - do DPS them actually force them to shut off earlier or is it just a "timed" thing?
@narrow dirge Yes. Shooting the laser marker disable the machinegun like turret for a short period of time
Just finish the raid easily
is anyone having a problem on PC where you save Razerback or Ironhorse CP and you lose the CP?
any help would be greatly appreciated
are you the session owner?
lost count the number of times i join a group, several are wearing GC or PGC and can't stay alive at all and the run ends up in a wipe
@smoky tapir its not that you cant run GC, its just that 90% of the people running it have an IQ of 50 and die every 2 minutes. Using GC is a unnecessary risk if your running with randoms.
Can anyone carry me through a raid?
@high ridge use the proper lfgs for your platform #578577794561474571
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So you can open the chest as many times as you want per week? With an equal chance for Ravenous each time?
@native copper as long as you have the keys to, yes
Cool. I've got 4, set to get a fifth with this next run, and I've already opened it once this week
I see
U can farm keys by running only the boss...
If u got the "checkpoint "...
Or if you have multiple characters
Hello is anyone running the raid on Xbox?
@boreal kestrel use #578577794561474571 instead
Gotcha thank you
bullet king is not the way my brothers, it is m1a with focus it will be easy one phase for razorback.
is anyone having a problem on PC where you save Razerback or Ironhorse CP and you lose the CP? It's been happening alot lately we get to razerback my buddy switches characters saves the CP we do like 3 runs and then the check point is gone. If anyone can help me .please DM me.
@summer ingot use #lfg-raid-pc
oh sorry
On 3rd boss how do I get out his riot foam? I’m shooting my self and it’s not even getting me out
You probably ADS. You need to hipfire the foam
Alternatively someone else can shoot your foam
No I hip fired down but nope it never got us out. Only thing that messed up my team. All fine till he launches his seekers
If you use shield it won’t work
Occasionally I can't get the angle to hipfire the foam. A teammate can shoot you free though.
When you use crusade shield it never works
Not using a shield, I'm the healer lol.
Yee ik
No I hip fired down but nope it never got us out. Only thing that messed up my team. All fine till he launches his seekers
@tender hollow if you can't solve the issue just make sure he can't use seekers either by destroying them (fire nade, emp, firstarter etc) or just go to the 2nd floor
Healer prolly most important in that fight
Emp doesn’t kill them
It just pauses them
Can't heal people who take lava baths though.
Good point
Just watched the same guy die four times to the lava.
Emp doesn’t kill them
@flint iris depends on your skill dmg
Skill dmg isn’t that hard to max
I had a maxed one but then they just froze
Few secs later they stuck my team
Fire work better and more reliably
Did you use the vile while doing it?
Fire work better and more reliably
Yeah i agree
We go to 2nd floor but it’s the cc and 2 dps down there. We can barely even get out of his foam
How come the cc is not on the second floor?
Are you asking for how to handle the foam?
Cause he has to riot foam the boss and ads around him
There’s a few strategies for the foam
Can’t be done from 2nd floor cause the dps guys are there
- Jammer Pulse kills them instantly.
- Vile kills them in 10 meters if you use an incendiary grenade.
- To shoot yourself out of foam look down but do not aim with an LMG.
Does it have to be a T6 or T0 jammer?
If you aim the spread is too tight to free yourself
A T0 might work. They have about 400K HP
But stopping them makes them easy shots.
He seeker mines every 20 seconds.
Vile and Incendiary is passive so no reaction time, but gotta be a few meters away
Grenade launcher with demo specialty instantly kills the seekers. So does the flamethrower if you face tank him in a hazard build
If you shoot the seekers with the foam chem launcher and vile mask it kills them within 10 meters and you can shoot him at the same time you are hitting the seekers at his feet.
Any tips on shooting Boomer's backpack? Some people nails it with the first 10 bullets but Im struggling to get him down altho he's right in front of me and im shooting his backpack?
Just keep shooting him
Feather it, dont hold it down.
Why did the Division even bother with keeping the furnace under control, couldn’t they have just gone past it?
wait - there's a story for iron horse raid?
Sharko same could be said for the train
Why didn’t they shoot the White House before we got there?
Big red bullet hasn’t been loaded
Why does it have to load at a specific spot?
It was trying to escape at first
maybe the intended target was something else but since it stopped it decided to attack DC?