#td2-raid-discussions | Tom Clancy's The Division | Page 20

pastel rune May 18, 2020, 2:53 PM

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This may have been asked already, so apologies, but has anything been changed in the raid that concerns the AI? Some clan members had trouble with Boomer saying his AI and aggro was all wonky. Send me an @ please with the answer

tender hollow May 18, 2020, 3:07 PM

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wht is a fresh run?

oak oracle May 18, 2020, 5:04 PM

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@pastel rune his eye jumps around super easy now and then his ai will start doing crazy strafes when hes being shot at

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@tender hollow it means your starting from the very beginning with no checkpoints to start from

tender hollow May 18, 2020, 6:04 PM

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@oak oracle we dont need to start from begining and do it all? he can jump directly to razorback? and farm there 5 keys (5runs)?

oak oracle May 18, 2020, 8:48 PM

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If you somehow have 5 checkpoints at rb yes @tender hollow

spiral hill May 18, 2020, 9:28 PM

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Im looking for a good clan that does frequent raids. Any suggustions?

tender hollow May 18, 2020, 10:27 PM

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search on #td2-clan-recruitment a lot of clans talk about raid

fallen nest May 19, 2020, 3:36 AM

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@oak oracle can't u have a char saved at razorback and after u bring everyone in, switch your char?

oak oracle May 19, 2020, 3:37 AM

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Yeah i dont see why not

tender hollow May 19, 2020, 5:18 AM

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What is the best way to get past boomer on normal difficulty

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Also looking for one more person

oak oracle May 19, 2020, 8:17 AM

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Having people in the correct spots and the right amount @tender hollow

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You want 2 kiters 2 on donut and 40 2 on 43 and 44 and one one admiral burger and the last person is in the middle

uneven lance May 19, 2020, 4:18 PM

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Hi looking to do a raid, looking for a experienced team to join, have done raids on destiny before understand

grave eagle May 19, 2020, 6:08 PM

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Is the sacrifice chest piece good for the raid or does it make you to squishy

warm ibex May 19, 2020, 6:09 PM

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People run perfect glass canon so, its not to squishy

spiral hill May 20, 2020, 12:32 AM

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anyone up for a raid?

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Ps4

naive ruin May 20, 2020, 12:41 AM

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Looking for raid group on normal for xbox 1

spiral hill May 20, 2020, 12:45 AM

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In raid Voice 1

valid marlin May 20, 2020, 4:16 AM

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If you are looking for people to raid with use the specific lfg channels, right underneath this channel:

PC: #lfg-raid-pc
PS4: #lfg-raid-console
XB1: #578577794561474571

gritty kelp May 20, 2020, 8:51 AM

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How does the raid work when playing with mixed players, some that have the expansion (lvl 40) and some that don’t (gs 515)? Does it scale up/down, is it a bad idea to have mixed teams?

quasi turret May 20, 2020, 8:53 AM

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What about delta 03 when i join raid group ?...

tender hollow May 20, 2020, 9:25 AM

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@gritty kelp dmg scales up still viable to play if you have the know how to play them (youtube guides etc) and a lot comunication

gritty kelp May 20, 2020, 9:31 AM

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@tender hollow Ok so the DLC or not, it should not be an obstacle. Key is to know the mechanics/timing and communication. Nice

tender hollow May 20, 2020, 9:34 AM

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yes and be flexible cuz you can know how to do it and your team can do it in other way faster (comunication again 😉 )

ivory ivy May 21, 2020, 3:03 AM

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What are the odds on completing a raid solo?

solar raft May 21, 2020, 3:03 AM

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0%

ivory ivy May 21, 2020, 3:03 AM

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For real?

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Not even 1%? I can work with 1%.

solar raft May 21, 2020, 3:05 AM

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You can’t solo boomer, can’t shoot the back while he chases you + computer, can’t activate both computer on 2nd phase, and can’t activate all four generator on razorback. And I’m not even gonna count the fact that you would never have enough dps for it

ivory ivy May 21, 2020, 3:07 AM

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Welp, dps is a matter of time and persistence, but I get the other points.

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Thanks.

solar raft May 21, 2020, 3:08 AM

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There’s also time limits so that’s why the dps from one isn’t enough. Also you can’t control all the adds while doing bosses

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Can it be done with less than 8 prob, but it would be hard

ivory ivy May 21, 2020, 3:09 AM

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Yeah, no. I mostly play solo.

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So guess I'm out of the raids run.

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Thanks for the explanation though.

solar raft May 21, 2020, 3:10 AM

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Even if you play mostly solo, you can still find a raid group on here to do it just for the EB

ivory ivy May 21, 2020, 3:11 AM

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Ever heard the phrase "the more I get to know ppl, the more I love my dog"?

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But thanks.

solar raft May 21, 2020, 3:12 AM

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Np, and maybe one day your dog will be able to play with you... who knows

ivory ivy May 21, 2020, 3:13 AM

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If only....

indigo breach May 21, 2020, 9:53 AM

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guys im trying to get the EB and i need a group for the raid, anybody wants to team up?

slender python May 21, 2020, 10:14 AM

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im up

ashen blade May 21, 2020, 4:42 PM

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i'm on pc, need EB too

rotund parcel May 21, 2020, 7:04 PM

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Anyone able to group up for the raid. Need the EB. Im on xbox

tender hollow May 21, 2020, 7:11 PM

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Again people at 9 min clears at lvl 40

oak oracle May 21, 2020, 7:31 PM

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Whats wrong with speedruns

serene vessel May 21, 2020, 9:01 PM

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Anyone doing a raid

cobalt maple May 22, 2020, 1:05 AM

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I need a raid group

valid marlin May 22, 2020, 5:54 AM

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If you are looking for people to raid with use the specific lfg channels, right underneath this channel:

PC: #lfg-raid-pc
PS4: #lfg-raid-console
XB1: #578577794561474571

tender hollow May 22, 2020, 6:24 AM

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Hi returning player what is the difference between the level 40 raid compared to level 30 raid I did last year summer

tender hollow May 22, 2020, 7:17 AM

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Hi returning player what is the difference between the level 40 raid compared to level 30 raid I did last year summer
@tender hollow its pretty much the same unless you want a quick raid completion time. If you want a quick raid time, due to the new gear, which we call Gear 2.0, the way you cheese the bosses is different.

oak oracle May 22, 2020, 7:19 AM

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Thats no where near accurate

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Theres no more over damage on bosses unless you have a speedrun team and thats only for rb

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The btsu gloves are the most useful things in the raid with the scanner pulse

tender hollow May 22, 2020, 8:52 AM

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for dogs?

oak oracle May 22, 2020, 8:57 AM

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Dogs and weasel

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In speedruns rb and tarmac aswell

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@tender hollow

tender hollow May 22, 2020, 8:59 AM

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im rookie still dont understand half abreviations used here 😉

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i can search using this; LFR finish 1 time not experienced? how to abreviate last part?

silver island May 22, 2020, 1:20 PM

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Just curious how do u actually do the cheese with lucy and buddy

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with the shock traps

chilly vector May 22, 2020, 1:49 PM

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shock lucy

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and burn her down

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and then buddy

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ur done

oak oracle May 22, 2020, 4:47 PM

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Overcharge with btsu then toss the shock trap up from the middle of the 3 cords in the middle then everyone drops a booster and scan pulses @silver island

turbid kayak May 22, 2020, 6:40 PM

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any place left for this poor soul

tranquil carbon May 22, 2020, 7:50 PM

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any raid group ?

harsh furnace May 22, 2020, 8:42 PM

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looking for 2 players Raid-Voice-45

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Raid-Voice-4

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LF2 FRESH RAID RAID-VOICE-4

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LF1 RAID-VOICE-4

true sequoia May 23, 2020, 12:05 AM

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Any raids need a person ?

flat maple May 23, 2020, 3:06 AM

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nah we good sorry should have deleted

sly aspen May 23, 2020, 4:32 AM

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looking to be carried through normal raid

valid marlin May 23, 2020, 6:48 AM

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If you are looking for people to raid with use the specific lfg channels, right underneath this channel:

PC: #lfg-raid-pc
PS4: #lfg-raid-console
XB1: #578577794561474571

junior sail May 23, 2020, 8:33 PM

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Anyone needs 1 for the raid. I have completed level 30 and level 40. Not looking to be carried just looking to raid and get another Completion . Send me PM if any raid groups needs 1.

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XB1

harsh furnace May 24, 2020, 4:57 AM

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LFG 1 RAID-VOICE-2 FRESH RAID

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LFG 1

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Raid-Voice-2

tardy beacon May 24, 2020, 6:20 AM

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Looking for raid

valid marlin May 24, 2020, 6:59 AM

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Read, people, read! 🤦‍♀️

If you are looking for people to raid with use the specific lfg channels, right underneath this channel:

PC: #lfg-raid-pc
PS4: #lfg-raid-console
XB1: #578577794561474571

vernal perch May 24, 2020, 7:12 AM

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I play on stadia and can cross play with PC gamers, I really want to learn the raid, if anyone needs an extra man please let me know. I have really good DPS, Skill and status effect builds. Stadia is great but hard to add PC friends. Any help getting into a raid group would be greatly appreciated.

oak oracle May 24, 2020, 6:07 PM

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Hah

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Rookies

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If it isnt 1000 hours its not even noticeable

heady badger May 24, 2020, 6:10 PM

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Hi, looking for a Raid

tender hollow May 24, 2020, 6:51 PM

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In the second raid I feel like Z is gonna help us

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“I’m going to find a way to make them pay -Z”

viscid python May 25, 2020, 1:22 AM

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@vernal perch stadia too adme!!!!

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@vernal perch thortillero

viscid python May 25, 2020, 1:39 AM

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Add me for stadia raid

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Thortillero6779

storm haven May 25, 2020, 3:49 AM

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Looking for a few more for raid before server shut in raid voice 8

valid marlin May 25, 2020, 5:18 AM

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If you are looking for people to raid with use the specific lfg channels, right underneath this channel:

PC: #lfg-raid-pc
PS4: #lfg-raid-console
XB1: #578577794561474571

ocean cove May 25, 2020, 1:22 PM

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is a sniper doing 20-22 mil damage good for the Raid?

viscid python May 25, 2020, 1:27 PM

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Looking for raid people on stadia, for better conexion

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Thortillero6779 my account

viscid python May 25, 2020, 1:57 PM

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@valid marlincan you do one for stadia im, so fucking alone what i feel autist

molten ether May 25, 2020, 2:00 PM

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stadia players can cross play with PC. u should be good participating in the PC lfg group. being on stadia, u would still have a uplay account right?@viscid python

viscid python May 25, 2020, 2:08 PM

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@molten ether i shoot wit joystick snice 20 years ago, dont worry fot that , and if for matchmake, i have no way if not is join clan of someone,not my fault,jus,serching people for play,thanks with out a account no one can play

molten ether May 25, 2020, 2:11 PM

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well u can still join PC raid group and play with joystick. since raid isn't a PvP competitive encounter that shouldn't be an issue. as long as u are good with that joystick, and u have a good DPS build, u can join raids. but i understand if u want to look for fellow stadia players.
but out of curiosity, are you "able" to join PC raid players? like can they actually invite u in game into a raid?

viscid python May 25, 2020, 2:14 PM

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@molten ether im limited by stadia ,i apreciate the pc player of corse i join

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And sorry by my englis spanins learn englis, in adults movies XD @molten ether

molten ether May 25, 2020, 2:18 PM

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no worries. but if u are able to join PC players, generally these are the steps. u look for people in #lfg-raid-pc group who want more players in (for example) RV 10 (raid-voice-10) and then u join that voice channel. then u can talk to them and ask whoever is leading the raid to invite u. just chatting in the channel is not going to get u invites, u need to join the voice channel to sort of "reserve" ur spot in raid

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good luck with the raid or finding other stadia players 👍

viscid python May 25, 2020, 2:19 PM

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@molten ether under st, im new on that, first day thanks

restive hinge May 26, 2020, 9:07 AM

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trying to find a raid group on pc that channel doesnt excist xD lfg raid pc

valid marlin May 26, 2020, 9:08 AM

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@restive hinge You should be able to see the pc lfg channel now

restive hinge May 26, 2020, 9:09 AM

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yes i do now Ty ty

solemn karma May 26, 2020, 11:20 AM

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anyone doing raid need razorback 5 times for full keys

valid marlin May 26, 2020, 11:37 AM

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@solemn karma Use #lfg-raid-pc

ebon kiln May 26, 2020, 2:08 PM

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Anyone raiding this morning

languid wyvern May 26, 2020, 2:41 PM

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anyone having issues with lucy not being shocked by traps?

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we are placing perfecty but she is still not being shocked...

oak oracle May 26, 2020, 3:04 PM

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@languid wyvern how are you throwing them

river gust May 26, 2020, 3:16 PM

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In a cluster

warm ibex May 26, 2020, 4:57 PM

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Just throw it right to the box where lucy comes out

oak oracle May 26, 2020, 5:26 PM

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When you have overcharge double click the throw button in the middle of the 3 cords where buddy and lucy walk into m

visual bloom May 26, 2020, 5:28 PM

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How does one reset all player skills?

molten ether May 26, 2020, 6:23 PM

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@visual bloom u mean the SHD tech numbers that unlock the skill variants? there is no way to reset it, u just have to acquire more SHD tech to unlock the remaining ones.

visual bloom May 26, 2020, 6:24 PM

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No I mean during raid someone kept calling out resetting skills

molten ether May 26, 2020, 6:25 PM

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BTSU overcharge can reset everyone's skills

visual bloom May 26, 2020, 6:25 PM

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What's that exactly?

molten ether May 26, 2020, 6:27 PM

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one person, running BTSU gloves, can dismantle their hive skill, resetting all group members skills and granting them overcharge

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so if the whole group is running reviver hive, and a BTSU player is running any hive skill, every 2 mins upon cancelling their hive, everyone's skill cooldowns get reset

visual bloom May 26, 2020, 6:31 PM

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Ahhh

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I need to get the btsu gloves xD

molten ether May 26, 2020, 6:33 PM

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well, technically only 1 person needs it in a raid. but yeah, go after black tusk enemies, one is sure to drop it

visual bloom May 26, 2020, 6:55 PM

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Thx!

tender hollow May 27, 2020, 8:06 AM

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tht gloves its for wony only?

tender hollow May 27, 2020, 9:18 AM

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tht gloves its for wony only?
@tender hollow its pre wony. so you don't need the wony expansion to get it.
If you like the DZ, DZ south is invaded Gloves today. i.e. its black tusks

tender hollow May 27, 2020, 10:44 AM

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ok ty

tender hollow May 27, 2020, 12:42 PM

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LOL=LOT OF LOVE

whole swan May 28, 2020, 12:09 AM

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can some people help me get eag;e

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eagle

oak oracle May 28, 2020, 12:16 AM

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Eagle eagle

oak oracle May 28, 2020, 1:16 AM

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Yup

sleek niche May 28, 2020, 6:58 AM

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Im looking for a raid group ive done the raid before so i know what to do

valid marlin May 28, 2020, 6:58 AM

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@sleek niche Use #lfg-raid-console

sleek niche May 28, 2020, 6:59 AM

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Thanks

tender hollow May 28, 2020, 8:48 AM

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Why can’t people watch a raid guide before being carried? That saves both sides time

tender hollow May 28, 2020, 9:09 AM

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maybe cuz there are to many guides from 10m to 50m some helpfull some dont, and when you play if you have a bad leader or communication problem on team just rip...

steel shard May 28, 2020, 9:26 AM

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If anybody knows whats to do. No „leader“ needed u only need a bit of communication for some timings

tender hollow May 28, 2020, 9:32 AM

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Like my team. We know what to do without being told. They can easily watch nothingbutskills. And maybe on your first completion it’s gonna take upwards of an hour

late seal May 28, 2020, 11:39 AM

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dude i spent up to 4 hours teaching a new group

tender hollow May 28, 2020, 1:08 PM

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know wht to do its diferent than experience doing it, and guides show diferent ways of doing it, and if a dude dies close to you forget the guide and improvise...or talk and if team talks back to you maybe more easy to resolve it. im talking about unexperienced players and diferent aproach players...

final coral May 29, 2020, 6:00 PM

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If u wanna raid a really bad server with bad admin dm me

normal mirage May 29, 2020, 10:33 PM

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anyone doing sherpas / know of any discord channels that sherpa raids?

tender hollow May 30, 2020, 11:10 AM

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Delta is discovery is the game saying “your not noob enough to be playing discovery. Go join a normal” 😂😂

tender hollow May 30, 2020, 12:53 PM

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Discovery is sometimes a lot of fun. You can try out different builds there.

harsh furnace May 31, 2020, 1:22 AM

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LFG RAID VOICE 3 - VETS

lilac vapor May 31, 2020, 4:48 AM

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confirmation, as long as you have keys, and down razor, is box a weekly reset like it used to be, or is it now as long as you have keys, on a new run?

outer solstice May 31, 2020, 4:49 AM

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I’m pretty sure you can open the box more then once, I did a fresh raid 3 times yesterday and was able to do the end box 3 times. But I don’t know if you EB can drop each time

storm haven May 31, 2020, 5:29 AM

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Need 4 more players for RV3

valid marlin May 31, 2020, 6:01 AM

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If you are looking for people to raid with use the specific lfg channels, right underneath this channel:

PC: #lfg-raid-pc
PS4: #lfg-raid-console
XB1: #578577794561474571

tender hollow May 31, 2020, 6:36 AM

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Hello, I've only played the Raid once on Discovery and it was seemed pretty difficult. How difficult is a Raid on Normal? Are there any good tips/know-hows before starting a raid?

icy hull May 31, 2020, 7:08 AM

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As to "how difficult the raid is on normal", well it depends entirely on your raid group.
It can be a cakewalk or smooth run with good groups or a horrible experience/ bad long run with bad groups. @tender hollow

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For tips: make your self a good meta dps build (so 3 providence, contractors, fox prayers and coyotes or grupo, with classic M1A with unbreakable and vigilance)
Also watch a few recent videos about boss fights to get an idea, but the strategy you guys use depends on your raid lead.

tender hollow May 31, 2020, 7:24 AM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/thedivision/comments/g9w0xj/baseline_dps_build_for_any_contentraid/
go with unbreakable the first couple of runs you do, then you may want to try other talents with more dps

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@icy hull I saw a year old video of Raid Guide, but has it changed much? As in maybe a small boss doesn't spawn, etc

icy hull May 31, 2020, 7:27 AM

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From a year ago, yes some stuff has changed. Focus only on TU8 + videos (so March onward.)

tender hollow May 31, 2020, 7:28 AM

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Thank you!

tight girder May 31, 2020, 1:51 PM

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Anyone knows if on raid player lvl scales?

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for example if im lvl 30 and running with a lvl 40 team will ii get a boost on stats? On discovery it scales tho

molten ether May 31, 2020, 3:30 PM

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@tight girder yes it scales to lvl 40

tight girder May 31, 2020, 3:30 PM

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And is there a difference between me and them? @molten ether

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for example stats?

molten ether May 31, 2020, 3:31 PM

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the stats scale

tight girder May 31, 2020, 3:31 PM

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Then any idea why a raid-leader i had didnt invite a guy bc he was 30 ?

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Even if he had maxed out stats?

molten ether May 31, 2020, 3:32 PM

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🤷‍♂️ some raid leaders are nit picky

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but the values do scale. like for example if the max weapon damage on gear is 10% at lvl 30 and u have 6%, then if at lvl 40 if the max weapon damage is 100% your gear will have 60% weapon damage

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but ofcourse at lvl 30 u may not have access to some brands that further boosts stats effectively, like groupo, ceska, bullet king etc

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but u can still raid as long as u have optimized gear

tight girder May 31, 2020, 3:35 PM

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Alright thanks for the advice. That's a big help

ornate moon May 31, 2020, 4:07 PM

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hello where can i find legendary channel to team up

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thanks in advance

sinful portal May 31, 2020, 5:31 PM

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Good afternoon all. It’s currently 1:31 pm in NC and I’m looking to raid today on XBOX one. I’ve got comms and have completed Dark Hours 10+ times with a meta DPS build. Please let me know if there is availability in your group. Thanks.

ebon knoll May 31, 2020, 7:25 PM

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hey guys, looking to do a raid... anyone got a spot for 1?

sullen axle May 31, 2020, 7:28 PM

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LFG raid

tender hollow May 31, 2020, 8:06 PM

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Anyone need a extra player for the raid 60 crit chance 178 crit damage my user name is DCL98101.

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Ps4 btw.

tight imp May 31, 2020, 8:22 PM

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Me too if someone need anothere one

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Ps4 too

tardy beacon May 31, 2020, 9:33 PM

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Any raids on xbox

queen viper May 31, 2020, 10:02 PM

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LF 2 more FRESH RAID

Raid voice 4

tender hollow May 31, 2020, 11:10 PM

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🤷‍♂️ some raid leaders are nit picky
@molten ether I've been told by some with 1000+ normal completions and these people know their stuff. For a level 30 raiding with level 40s
Lvl 30 weapon damage will scale up to do Lvl 38 damage
Their armor will remain the same, which is low
If they are an optimised red build, in many cases they will do more damage than an optimised lvl 40 TP/Striker/Negotiator/Tank/Skill build, but they will not do as much damage as a red build with ok gear.

molten ether May 31, 2020, 11:38 PM

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@tender hollow i can't refute your statement, cause i haven't tested this myself. but i don't accept that weapon damage scales and armor doesn't scale. if it indeed doesn't scale, then it should be treated as a bug and reported to ubi.
i know that normally when level 30 wt5 folks join a level 40 party, they scale to level 38 in worldly activities. but the 2 raids my fellow level 30 wt5 clan mate ran with us, i didn't particularly see him scale up. i could see all his stats as level 30 wt5 stats. but he could still hold his own which makes me suspect he was scaled all the way up to 40. The only thing i did notice was that for the raid level 40 title on the top, there was a scaling icon along with it, to indicate normalized raid.
i might test your hypothesis someday, play with my level 30 character to see how the scaling is working, maybe u are right and i'm wrong.
but still my statement remains the same, some raid leaders are being nit picky. as long as u aren't speed running, it doesn't hurt to accept a level 30 player in your midst. if they know what to do, and have a dps build, maybe u take 5 more mins to finish the raid 🤷‍♂️

tender hollow Jun 1, 2020, 1:10 AM

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^ I didn't say good level 30 players can't hold their own in a level 40 raid. Just stating what I have been told.
There are level 30 players who regularly do normal raids. Discovery raids also usually have at least 2 level 30s.
In fact I also posted, "if they are an optimised red build, in many cases they will do more damage than an optimised lvl 40 TP/Striker/Negotiator/Tank/Skill build"
i.e. implying that its easier to raid with a level 30 with a good dps build, than a level 40 on a non-dps build

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^ I have to add this is in general. There are top 1% players, who do legendaries mostly, and every now and then for fun do a raid, who slay with their strikers/gear set builds.

still hound Jun 1, 2020, 2:20 AM

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What is a good build for a Raid?

queen viper Jun 1, 2020, 2:33 AM

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DPS DPS DPS

and like 1 guy with skill dmg 🙂

dusty snow Jun 1, 2020, 5:14 AM

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Ass load of dps

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Btsu glove works for now but will be nerfed in tu10

still hound Jun 1, 2020, 5:42 AM

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I should make a DPS Heavy Build. Mine is solid Skill

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I am scared for doing the raid

ashen scaffold Jun 1, 2020, 6:15 AM

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Well Raid is just an 8 man dps party atm

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Its just learning the mechanics of the raid which all you do

tender hollow Jun 1, 2020, 7:48 AM

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@dusty snow lol ppl will find a way around it. And since spec ammo won’t be lost when switching they can easily swap builds

polar wyvern Jun 1, 2020, 8:30 AM

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Hi guys, new on this discord, but started playing almost nonstop since launch. I'm in a clan of 5 people, all very close friends and 4 of us are very active. We're looking to join a group who can show us the ropes on doing raids and help us finish, and hopefully get the much coveted raid exclusive loots to complete our collection. We've done heroics but haven't tried out legendary yet.

What's the proper etiquette and process to go about this? Thanks to anybody who would answer! div2salute

dusty snow Jun 1, 2020, 8:43 AM

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Read raid guides. (Make sure it is normal difficulty guide)
Prep builds. DPS build for Operation Dark Hours (no idea on second raid that will come out soon). Please no rainbow builds.
Look for group in chat right below. Also worth mentioning you’re new.
When you join, tell people you’re new (or have only done raid a few times)

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For you, it might be better to split yourselves into one or two people, cuz taking 4 inexperienced people to raid is ‘risky’. It takes a couple of raids to get used to the mechanics, so take time and learn.

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Lastly, current raid exclusive loot is Eagle Bearer, which I read somewhere that it is like 1% drop chance from each boss or 10% from end of game cache. You need 5 keys to open the cache, and you need to loot 4 keys from key boxes (once every reset which is Tuesday). Final boss Razorback always drops keys, so u could clear the raid 5 more times to open end of raid cache again. Basically fresh clear (after reset) for first cache opening, then five more clears for another cache opening and so on.

If you need to loot keys from key boxes, tell the raid group that you need keys. People will help you with where and how to get keys, unless they’re jerks

polar wyvern Jun 1, 2020, 8:54 AM

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thanks for the tips. are there any benchmarks on builds we need to be gunning for? ie. min armor, min dps, min crit chance and damage, etc?

dusty snow Jun 1, 2020, 8:57 AM

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ehhhhhh 45% chc, 120% chd? it's p easy with 2 or 3 providence and 1 grupo (not necessary unless you dont use contractor glove or only have 2 providence). fox's prayer kneepad is decent cuz of dmg out of cover. rest are up to you. I use coyote mask, 3 providence (unbreakable and vigilance), fox's prayer and contractor glove

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i don't prefer glass cannon because it is less forgiving on mistakes. backpack talent could be swapped to composure if you're gonna use cover and not take chances of getting hit (i don't think you get hit that frequently anyway). overwatch could be useful for general group-wide buff but not necessary

polar wyvern Jun 1, 2020, 9:06 AM

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booting up my game just to check my stats 😛

dusty snow Jun 1, 2020, 9:07 AM

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tbh as you experience different groups you'll see what gears your group will need. just that current BTSU glove + 6~7 overcharged scanner pulse stacking will not work once TU10 hits, so you'll need to learn to do the raids the 'normal way' (currently most groups are using BTSU glove to do it cheese mode 😄 )

polar wyvern Jun 1, 2020, 9:10 AM

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i'm currently running a nego build with contractor's glove and Coyote's mask. Bullet king and Baker's dozen as weapons. CC is at 50%, CD is at 112%. All weapon damage at 86k++

I also do have the glass cannon build, but I agree that the penalty is too steep.

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I'll hit up the lfg raid channel and see if i can join a couple of raids. I'll make sure to let people know it's my first time so they can all be patient with me. Thanks man!

harsh furnace Jun 1, 2020, 8:15 PM

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FRESH RAID ON RAID-VOICE 4

lament harness Jun 1, 2020, 8:51 PM

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oh wow they chnaged the raid to darkhours raid that means the new raid is coming really soon

icy hull Jun 1, 2020, 9:28 PM

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its always been called "dark hours raid"... also devs already said they are aiming to release raid 2 a few weeks after TU10 launch.@lament harness

lament harness Jun 1, 2020, 9:29 PM

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Naw what I meant is that they added a tab for the dad hours raid specifically

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@icy hull

icy hull Jun 1, 2020, 9:30 PM

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ah okay

grim vessel Jun 1, 2020, 10:28 PM

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what day does the raid keys reset

drowsy needle Jun 1, 2020, 11:03 PM

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@grim vessel Tuesday

tender hollow Jun 2, 2020, 9:39 AM

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For a speed run boomer must get up the second he goes down. If it takes too long it’s a reset

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And that’s a way to maximise the shock trap

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Shock trap person running:
1pc golan, skill haste, status effects
2pc wyvern, skill haste, status effects
3pc HW, status effects
Shock trap and explosive sticky bomb
MUST be running preparation and at least procc it on the 3rd phase of boomer going down

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As soon as boomer goes down he should get up immediately. If not there’s a lack of dps

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People who will be doing damage to him should be running HSD everywhere. The WD/ svd can be used

winged dock Jun 2, 2020, 9:58 AM

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i'm currently running a nego build with contractor's glove and Coyote's mask. Bullet king and Baker's dozen as weapons. CC is at 50%, CD is at 112%. All weapon damage at 86k++

I also do have the glass cannon build, but I agree that the penalty is too steep.
@polar wyvern ND is not a raid gear and pretty useless at raid so try to change to 3pc providence+coyote+ceska+fox prayer

fathom sorrel Jun 2, 2020, 3:40 PM

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@haughty girder @modern anchor @azure ruin @wispy chasm @timid gulch @white nimbus and the last guy I can't remember: Sorry for the sudden disconnect last night. Internet went out and I think it was an external problem. Reset all my equipment but after 20 min and it didn't come back on I went to bed, figured you filled. Really sorry, was a fun group.

azure ruin Jun 2, 2020, 4:01 PM

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@fathom sorrel no worries brother. Always pleasure playing with you

white nimbus Jun 2, 2020, 5:45 PM

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@fathom sorrel , yeah no problem bud. We figure it out that was a internet connection.

oak oracle Jun 2, 2020, 5:54 PM

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@tender hollow does that even work

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I use 4pc hw with coyotes mask and vanguard golan chest and it works very well

rotund parcel Jun 2, 2020, 8:45 PM

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Anyone open to inv me for a raid group.

proper ibex Jun 2, 2020, 11:36 PM

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hi guys! looking for a raid group now! i'm using MIC! PSN: soldier_tripeiro

valid marlin Jun 3, 2020, 4:17 AM

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If you are looking for people to raid with use the specific lfg channels, right underneath this channel:

PC: #lfg-raid-pc
PS4: #lfg-raid-console
XB1: #578577794561474571

tender hollow Jun 3, 2020, 8:21 AM

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@oak oracle you want boomer to be shocked for as long as possible and the trap out for as long

oak oracle Jun 3, 2020, 8:21 AM

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I know how to trap and do it regularly just wondering if it works

tender hollow Jun 3, 2020, 8:23 AM

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Yeah it does work

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After about 4 phases the trap should run out and one guy should procc overcharge

oak oracle Jun 3, 2020, 8:28 AM

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Dont need overcharge hw can solo it the whole time

hushed kiln Jun 3, 2020, 1:13 PM

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@slow widget @timber cedar join on raid voice 1

timber cedar Jun 3, 2020, 1:13 PM

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Done

broken violet Jun 3, 2020, 8:56 PM

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@valid marlin is there a noob raid channel? Like, a place for first-timers to connect with one another and sherpas?

molten ether Jun 3, 2020, 9:14 PM

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@broken violet there isn't such a channel, but u can still try to use the #lfg-raid-ps4 channel to find a group that would be able to help out. or check out your #clan-recruitment-ps4 channel for any active clans that do raids.

wind vigil Jun 3, 2020, 9:39 PM

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how often can i do raids? if im after an exotic, can i do like many raids in one day?

icy hull Jun 3, 2020, 9:40 PM

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well, the keys from the boxes are once a week. but the last boss always drops a key. so upto you .

wind vigil Jun 3, 2020, 9:41 PM

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ok, is there 4 or 5 keys in total?

vagrant wing Jun 3, 2020, 9:42 PM

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5

wind vigil Jun 3, 2020, 9:42 PM

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4 boxes and a boss?

vagrant wing Jun 3, 2020, 9:42 PM

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4 from the boxes. 1 from the last boss

wind vigil Jun 3, 2020, 9:43 PM

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once per week can i get all 5 keys, otherwise just one from the boss?

vagrant wing Jun 3, 2020, 9:43 PM

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Yup

wind vigil Jun 3, 2020, 9:43 PM

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alright, thank you!

vagrant wing Jun 3, 2020, 9:43 PM

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np

flint iris Jun 3, 2020, 11:32 PM

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What’s the chance for eagle bearer out of the big box at the end

vagrant wing Jun 3, 2020, 11:33 PM

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10% supposedly

smoky tapir Jun 4, 2020, 12:58 AM

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1% chance from all 4 bosses, 10% from box at end

flint iris Jun 4, 2020, 1:00 AM

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Will the bosses still drop loot if I already beaten them once before the reset

fringe crag Jun 4, 2020, 1:01 AM

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think its 10% on your first clear of the week

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then its just 1% like the rest of the bosses

zinc rain Jun 4, 2020, 1:09 AM

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Looking for ps4 raid players

fathom sorrel Jun 4, 2020, 1:54 AM

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@flint iris Yes, the bosses still drop loot and a chance for the EB each run. The only thing that changes on run 2+ for the week is the 4 keys in the boxes along the way are not obtainable (weekly reset). There is also some speculation that the loot on subsequent runs is not as good as the first of the week. The big crate at the end takes 5 keys to open, so as long as you have the keys, you can open it. Razorback always drops a key no matter how many times a week you destroy it.

flint iris Jun 4, 2020, 1:56 AM

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That’s good to know, thanks a lot

polar wyvern Jun 4, 2020, 9:58 AM

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@polar wyvern ND is not a raid gear and pretty useless at raid so try to change to 3pc providence+coyote+ceska+fox prayer
@winged dock Thanks for the tip, I'll check if i can get good rolled providence. I think i'm missing one piece.

timber cedar Jun 4, 2020, 1:07 PM

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@spiral pike u can join VC13... Needs 2

worldly flame Jun 4, 2020, 1:36 PM

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Looking for raid group psn ThunderKing39

valid marlin Jun 4, 2020, 1:38 PM

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@worldly flame Use #lfg-raid-console

distant mountain Jun 4, 2020, 3:09 PM

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4 discovery raids in a row now that have Delta’d. I give up

dusty snow Jun 4, 2020, 3:13 PM

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never had delta in normal raid though so that's weird

distant mountain Jun 4, 2020, 3:14 PM

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Me neither but discovery has been like this for a while for me

tribal stream Jun 5, 2020, 3:38 AM

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can anyone tell me how the btsu gloves work and why we are making so much dmg with it ?

oak oracle Jun 5, 2020, 4:55 AM

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@tribal stream when the btsu user destroys a hive it grants overcharge to the whole team no matter the skill tier and if you use a remote or scanner pulse it grants 15% more damage per pulse for 15 seconds

tribal stream Jun 5, 2020, 5:00 AM

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thx ^^

hazy musk Jun 5, 2020, 8:39 AM

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Looking for Raid group xb1 gt: Wolf ElitHun

valid marlin Jun 5, 2020, 8:40 AM

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@hazy musk It's enough to post it once in #578577794561474571 which is the right channel for lfg posts, this one is for discussions

sour cairn Jun 5, 2020, 9:23 AM

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for the BTSU gloves, once i destroy the hive i should start to ask allies to pulse am i right?

vagrant wing Jun 5, 2020, 9:23 AM

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Yes

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Booster hive works too

sour cairn Jun 5, 2020, 9:26 AM

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ok got it. i can try using it on next raid

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thanks @vagrant wing

vagrant wing Jun 5, 2020, 9:29 AM

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Np. If you look closely you can see (under the UI) the buff you get from the BTSU (it appears for 2 sec ish) the pulse/booster should be dropped during that time. Although don't count on your teammates to notice it during a battle

tender hollow Jun 5, 2020, 9:32 AM

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Lol I just hate it when I ask if they still need any for raid and they go from green status to grey

dusty snow Jun 5, 2020, 11:15 AM

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gave away eaglebug yesterday, FeelsGood

tall relic Jun 5, 2020, 3:54 PM

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I’m a solo and dying to do the raid. Anybody want to help a brother out? I want the eb so bad but can never find a crew to run with

tall relic Jun 5, 2020, 4:14 PM

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Anybody? I’m dying to get the eb.

broken violet Jun 5, 2020, 5:07 PM

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Saw this in an article: “The only guaranteed way to obtain the Eagle Bearer exotic is to beat the raid five times..”. True or False?

vagrant wing Jun 5, 2020, 5:10 PM

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False. It's an rng based (10% from the box - required 5 keys, less then 1% from each boss for the first time you raid for the week) so technically 10 times should grant you 1 EB. But in my exp you'll have to open that box more then that on average

icy hull Jun 5, 2020, 5:43 PM

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Or just be like me and get it on the very 1st time I opened the box lol

grand drum Jun 5, 2020, 5:53 PM

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anyone want to run the raid on normal?

pulsar forge Jun 5, 2020, 6:50 PM

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I do

flint iris Jun 6, 2020, 1:28 AM

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That’s some luck right there azurmen

brittle panther Jun 6, 2020, 1:35 AM

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raid at normal, im in

true sequoia Jun 6, 2020, 4:16 AM

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Anyone doing the raid and need someone ?

valid marlin Jun 6, 2020, 5:37 AM

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If you are looking for people to raid with use the specific lfg channels, right underneath this channel:

PC: #lfg-raid-pc
PS4: #lfg-raid-console
XB1: #578577794561474571

oak oracle Jun 6, 2020, 8:22 AM

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Mods are getting more and more annoyed of the people saying lfg lmao

tender hollow Jun 6, 2020, 9:20 AM

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How is an 8 min speed run possible? Definitely some cheating going on if they one tap razorback in tu9.

1.2 mins doing tarmac and getting to boomer
One shot boomer is gone. Likely a min there
30 secs getting to the hangar
1.5 min weasel
3 min ad fight/ getting to B&L
10 secs B&L
30 secs getting to RB
3 min RB if he gets taken down properly

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3 min ad fight I mean getting outside the hangar, inside baggage handling then running to B&L

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Legit way not one shotting the bosses

quartz matrix Jun 6, 2020, 10:25 AM

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div2hmm

west spruce Jun 6, 2020, 10:31 AM

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@tender hollow you can check out the top speedrunner VoDs in TU9.1 here https://www.reddit.com/r/thedivision/comments/gtgn21/hfr_the_division_2_operation_dark_hours_speedrun/

tender hollow Jun 6, 2020, 11:29 AM

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^^ dps is king. Weasel, btsu straight away. B&L balanced. RB perfect focus x 4 I assume.

thorny horizon Jun 6, 2020, 10:36 PM

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Hi ✋🏻

flint iris Jun 6, 2020, 10:37 PM

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Hi

thorny horizon Jun 6, 2020, 10:37 PM

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How can i bulid armor for raid?

flint iris Jun 6, 2020, 10:37 PM

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Armor?

thorny horizon Jun 6, 2020, 10:37 PM

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Yes

flint iris Jun 6, 2020, 10:37 PM

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Like as a tank?

thorny horizon Jun 6, 2020, 10:37 PM

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Yes

flint iris Jun 6, 2020, 10:38 PM

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Not sure, personally haven’t been in a raid myself

thorny horizon Jun 6, 2020, 10:38 PM

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I see

flint iris Jun 6, 2020, 10:38 PM

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Yea

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Crusader build maybe...

thorny horizon Jun 6, 2020, 10:39 PM

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I just want to know what's important, is it the hazard protection or armor regeneration

vagrant wing Jun 6, 2020, 10:41 PM

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Armor builds aren't useful at all in the raid. Although after saying that, if you do want to build one you have 2 options:
either 4 pieces TP with "pointman" chest (named gila) and "motherly love" gloves
or
3 pieces gila (again, named chest & motherly love)

thorny horizon Jun 6, 2020, 10:42 PM

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And how can i get these gila armor?

vagrant wing Jun 6, 2020, 10:42 PM

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Farm gila treget loot area

thorny horizon Jun 6, 2020, 10:43 PM

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Huh!!!

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div2question

flint iris Jun 6, 2020, 10:44 PM

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Are you lvl 30 yet

thorny horizon Jun 6, 2020, 10:44 PM

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I'm lvl 40

flint iris Jun 6, 2020, 10:44 PM

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Yea

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Fran target loot gila

vagrant wing Jun 6, 2020, 10:44 PM

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Huh!!!
@thorny horizon did i say something wrong?

flint iris Jun 6, 2020, 10:45 PM

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Nah I just don’t think he understood targeted loot maybe?

thorny horizon Jun 6, 2020, 10:45 PM

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I don't get what u mean

flint iris Jun 6, 2020, 10:45 PM

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Ok go to ur map and press up on the d-pad

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You see targeted loot map

vagrant wing Jun 6, 2020, 10:45 PM

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When you open your map there's an option called "target loot" click on it

flint iris Jun 6, 2020, 10:45 PM

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Where it’s most likely for you to get targets poot

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Loot

thorny horizon Jun 6, 2020, 10:46 PM

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Target loot

vagrant wing Jun 6, 2020, 10:47 PM

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That's right. Did you find it?

flint iris Jun 6, 2020, 10:47 PM

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Mhm

thorny horizon Jun 6, 2020, 10:47 PM

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Right now i'm not near by the ps4 😅

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But i'm want to understand what should i do to enter the raid

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My brother said to me that i have at least 80% of hazard protection to enter the raid

vagrant wing Jun 6, 2020, 10:49 PM

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That's not true. Put a good DPS build together and you're good

flint iris Jun 6, 2020, 10:49 PM

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Yea

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Do one of those cliche all red builds

thorny horizon Jun 6, 2020, 10:50 PM

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Could u please explain to me the best DPS

flint iris Jun 6, 2020, 10:50 PM

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Also u kinda need a coordinated team

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With come and stuff

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Or else it gets hard

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Comms *

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Go watch a ya vid

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Those explains well

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Yt *

thorny horizon Jun 6, 2020, 10:51 PM

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I wathed alot of videos
But still i don't get it

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Wathed *

flint iris Jun 6, 2020, 10:52 PM

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Wdym you don’t get it

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You can base it off their build and build it to your playstyle

tender hollow Jun 7, 2020, 12:16 AM

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Everyones dps build is different, but here is a good starting point > https://www.reddit.com/r/thedivision/comments/g9w0xj/baseline_dps_build_for_any_contentraid/
Initially use unbreakable then try other chest talents when you get more comfortable doing raids

high star Jun 7, 2020, 2:45 PM

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@turbid spruce big ups to this guy, incredible raid leader
explained every single step to 2 of our players on their first run, which was successful div2thumbsup

tender hollow Jun 7, 2020, 4:56 PM

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you have to be level 30 to do raids dont you

gloomy juniper Jun 7, 2020, 5:32 PM

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you have to be level 30 to do raids dont you
@tender hollow yes and wt 3 if i'm right

molten ether Jun 7, 2020, 7:00 PM

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wt5 and at least 480 gear score

thorny horizon Jun 7, 2020, 9:42 PM

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Is the hazard protection important in the raid?

vagrant wing Jun 7, 2020, 9:48 PM

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That's not true. Put a good DPS build together and you're good
@vagrant wing What's not clear @thorny horizon ?

thorny horizon Jun 7, 2020, 9:55 PM

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😂😂😂

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I would like to hear for other players 👍🏻

vagrant wing Jun 7, 2020, 10:00 PM

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fair enough

molten ether Jun 7, 2020, 10:09 PM

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@thorny horizon hazard protection is not important for the dark hours raid. just dps and coordination

thorny horizon Jun 7, 2020, 10:23 PM

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Thank u so much 😊

stuck kite Jun 8, 2020, 3:54 AM

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Question...

flint iris Jun 8, 2020, 3:54 AM

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Continue

stuck kite Jun 8, 2020, 3:55 AM

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Me and a couple of buddies want to do a hardcore raid and I being as high as I am had a thought that is either brilliant or very stupid... can bubble 40 players join on a level 30 who starts a raid and would that make it a level 30 raid

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Like can seven of us at level 40 hardcore join in on a level 30 hardcore player and do his ring

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Raid*

flint iris Jun 8, 2020, 3:56 AM

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Don’t think so but not sure

stuck kite Jun 8, 2020, 3:58 AM

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Either this Cinderella Kush has me believing that it's a brilliant idea and that it should work in Theory or I should just quit smoking now

icy hull Jun 8, 2020, 4:50 AM

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@stuck kite levels 40 cant join a lv 30s raid, but level 30s can join the 40s.

weary niche Jun 8, 2020, 10:14 AM

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@stuck kite I mean if you have decent gear, even lvl 40 won't be that hard. Have 1 tardigrade vest in too for raid

tender hollow Jun 8, 2020, 12:59 PM

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Is aces support build good or should i go for dps build(1st timer)

weary niche Jun 8, 2020, 1:14 PM

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Unbreakable crit rifle build imo

remote heron Jun 8, 2020, 1:14 PM

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Anyone looking for a raid at the moment haha?

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also @weary niche nice pic

stuck kite Jun 8, 2020, 2:09 PM

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So wait 1 person wearing tardigrades boosts all 8 members in a raid? yet each sub group only gets buffed by their own demo and firewall members? That seems awfully stupid.

austere breach Jun 8, 2020, 3:00 PM

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Anyone on Xbox doing a raid?

weary niche Jun 8, 2020, 3:29 PM

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@stuck kite it did before, can say when I have run myself again

weary niche Jun 8, 2020, 5:20 PM

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@remote heron thanks 😊

tranquil anchor Jun 8, 2020, 5:40 PM

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2 looking to do raid on ps4

tender hollow Jun 8, 2020, 7:47 PM

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any of you running the raid in Europe?

tender hollow Jun 8, 2020, 10:51 PM

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any raids?

tender hollow Jun 9, 2020, 1:54 AM

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anyone wanna join

queen viper Jun 9, 2020, 4:14 AM

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Raid FRESH

RV1

need 1

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Fresh Raid

need 1

RV 1

remote heron Jun 9, 2020, 4:44 AM

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If anyone is interested in a raid please PM me

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Lf1M please pm me if you're interested

tender hollow Jun 9, 2020, 5:07 AM

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im interesyed

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i need a raid

final owl Jun 9, 2020, 5:07 AM

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yes

tender hollow Jun 9, 2020, 5:07 AM

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yes

valid marlin Jun 9, 2020, 6:12 AM

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If you are looking for people to raid with use the specific lfg channels, right underneath this channel:

PC: #lfg-raid-pc
PS4: #lfg-raid-console
XB1: #578577794561474571

deft axle Jun 9, 2020, 11:27 AM

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Hi, new here, what does RV1/2 means??

valid marlin Jun 9, 2020, 12:12 PM

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@deft axle Raid voice (channel) 1 or 2

rotund crest Jun 9, 2020, 5:06 PM

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Looking for fresh raid

tender hollow Jun 9, 2020, 6:39 PM

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NEED RAID ASAP

vagrant wing Jun 9, 2020, 7:21 PM

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Or?

oak oracle Jun 9, 2020, 7:22 PM

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Or else

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The real lfg is too far

vagrant wing Jun 9, 2020, 7:23 PM

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😱
now i'm terrified

verbal mist Jun 9, 2020, 7:23 PM

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😂

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why is it that people post in here for lfg

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drives me mad

oak oracle Jun 9, 2020, 7:34 PM

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Same here and its always 2 messages under the take your lfgs to the lfg channel too

rotund crest Jun 9, 2020, 9:03 PM

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anybody up for a fresh raid?

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Looking for raid group. Please ping me if you're down

rotund crest Jun 9, 2020, 9:44 PM

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RV6 need a few more

quaint yoke Jun 9, 2020, 9:48 PM

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lfg for raid

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join rv6

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lfg for raid
join rv6

quaint bramble Jun 9, 2020, 9:55 PM

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Add me please

quaint yoke Jun 9, 2020, 9:59 PM

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same name?

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Kr4zyLee add me @quaint bramble

quaint bramble Jun 9, 2020, 10:07 PM

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Yes

normal mirage Jun 10, 2020, 1:09 AM

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Does hollowman mask help for all bosses in DH raid?

oak oracle Jun 10, 2020, 1:53 AM

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Only really razorback and thats it

flint iris Jun 10, 2020, 2:01 AM

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@normal mirage mostly Razorback cause all other all have armour bars before health

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Ooo didn’t see that answer before I’m blind lol

normal mirage Jun 10, 2020, 2:05 AM

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someone mentioned the bars on boomer isnt really shield it counts as health too @oak oracle @flint iris but Im not 100%

flint iris Jun 10, 2020, 2:05 AM

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Ah ok the more you know

oak oracle Jun 10, 2020, 2:05 AM

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They arent

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Hollow man is only good for his backpack

sonic sphinx Jun 10, 2020, 3:21 AM

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I guess maybe it'd be good against buddy/lucy too? since they're robotics and usually hollow man is better against robotics

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I generally only run it against razorback

flint iris Jun 10, 2020, 3:24 AM

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Buddy and Lucy have armour bars tho so idk

sonic sphinx Jun 10, 2020, 3:35 AM

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yeah, it's so unclear

real hornet Jun 10, 2020, 11:46 AM

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I guess maybe it'd be good against buddy/lucy too? since they're robotics and usually hollow man is better against robotics
@sonic sphinx good for Razorback, Weakpoints on Ads and Dogs.

Not including B&L

eager mantle Jun 10, 2020, 7:02 PM

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raid is a bit lame imo

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should be longer

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Like....After various completions, I just like to call it the "Obnoxious Mission"

tender hollow Jun 10, 2020, 7:07 PM

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any raids?

eager mantle Jun 10, 2020, 7:36 PM

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I've finished Dark Hours 7 times. Still no EB sadly

normal mirage Jun 10, 2020, 7:36 PM

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yeah Im just doing it once a week, and then joining razorback/buddy lucy groups for quick keys. No EB but I just started 2 weeks ago.

eager mantle Jun 10, 2020, 7:37 PM

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Yeah. Like, IMO, the raid should be bigger

vagrant wing Jun 10, 2020, 7:38 PM

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Only 7 and complaining already? 🙂

eager mantle Jun 10, 2020, 7:38 PM

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Hey, I'm not complaining about it being too hard

vagrant wing Jun 10, 2020, 7:38 PM

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It's like 10% drop on paper

eager mantle Jun 10, 2020, 7:38 PM

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I'm complaining about the raid being too short and easy

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Like, tell me what challenge is there on Boomer if you can literally insta down him with a Nemesis build?

vagrant wing Jun 10, 2020, 7:40 PM

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They got rid of it a while ago. Anyway the raid hardness comes from the coordination between the players not the enemies

eager mantle Jun 10, 2020, 7:40 PM

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Eh. It shouldn't happen. The challenge should be both

vagrant wing Jun 10, 2020, 7:41 PM

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Plus after the raid came out it took a month or so for most players to complete it

eager mantle Jun 10, 2020, 7:41 PM

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Yeah, but now...it takes 10 minutes

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im talking the raid now

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not a month post release

vagrant wing Jun 10, 2020, 7:42 PM

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Yeah. Cause ppl developed ways to deal with it. If you looking for a challenge take 4 new ppl into the raid and see what happened

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Or try doing it for time

eager mantle Jun 10, 2020, 7:43 PM

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4 raids in a day? Got it

vagrant wing Jun 10, 2020, 7:43 PM

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everything become easier after you get use to it

eager mantle Jun 10, 2020, 7:44 PM

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Yeah. Except it doesn't in some cases. I'm a retired WoW dude. I remember having ran both Lich King and Cataclysm key raids there. Even after 4 raids, it was still a very well 4 hour challenge

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like....maybe Dark Hours has a problem?

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maybe it is too short?

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maybe the bosses should have more phases?

vagrant wing Jun 10, 2020, 7:48 PM

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I never played WoW but i don't want to play a single thing for over an hour. I completed the raid for the first time back in the first month and it took us 2.5 hrs. My first legendary took over an hour. Now it's shorter ofc and i'm good with it. Doing it again of over an hour will make me mad 🙂

eager mantle Jun 10, 2020, 7:49 PM

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Well. Maybe that one is a more personal issue of yours probably depending on how your times are setup on your end, so wont get to it. I sadly have more free time than average so....i tend to like more time consuming challenges

vagrant wing Jun 10, 2020, 7:51 PM

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I see. Why don't you make your own challenges then? speedrunning content (raid and legendaries) might suck your time in 🙂

eager mantle Jun 10, 2020, 7:52 PM

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perhaps it does. perhaps. but hey, longer raid means more loot and stuff which also means more drop chances for the EB

vagrant wing Jun 10, 2020, 7:58 PM

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More stuff - maybe... the stuff you get are mostly trash anyway
Higher chance? not really. You have less then 1% chance for the EB from

eager mantle Jun 10, 2020, 8:02 PM

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hey. 0.25% plus chance is still an increase, plus more time spent in an unexplored location

vagrant wing Jun 10, 2020, 8:04 PM

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Alright. What can i say? all you have now is to pray the new raid will be longer 🙂

eager mantle Jun 10, 2020, 8:04 PM

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i hope it is

vapid tide Jun 10, 2020, 8:08 PM

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any raids

timber vortex Jun 11, 2020, 1:59 AM

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any raid groups going on?

valid marlin Jun 11, 2020, 6:47 AM

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If you are looking for people to raid with use the specific lfg channels, right underneath this channel:

PC: #lfg-raid-pc
PS4: #lfg-raid-console
XB1: #578577794561474571

dapper path Jun 11, 2020, 8:40 AM

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How "easy" is Discovery anyway? I'm still skeptical

thin socket Jun 11, 2020, 9:42 AM

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Discovery is really easy if you've done normal raid before. Most of the actual raid mechanics are not there on discovery, so it's mostly just run and shoot stuff simulator

rare karma Jun 11, 2020, 2:20 PM

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What should I be aiming for in my raid build these days?

flint iris Jun 11, 2020, 2:22 PM

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The classic red build with bk and m1a

tender hollow Jun 11, 2020, 4:36 PM

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Is this place a good way to join a group to get my first run

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Either way im gonna find a group saturday morning, got a dps and a aces build. Any suggestions?

sonic sphinx Jun 11, 2020, 4:40 PM

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go with the dps build, sniper rifles don't work too well in the raid

tender hollow Jun 11, 2020, 4:41 PM

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Ok, im using a perfect unbreakable chest piece with that dps build for safety

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You got many runs in the raid lord2800?

sonic sphinx Jun 11, 2020, 4:43 PM

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~20

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everything is fairly close range in the raid, and while you could make use of a sniper in weasel and buddy/lucy maybe, you're honestly just better off with a mid-range weapon and crit chance/damage

fathom sorrel Jun 11, 2020, 4:46 PM

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Here's some build options. For a first run go with the standard DPS until you understand and want to try the other roles. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQs7Zp_040f0htRacOwPP-qc9DSozQZTaZ8nvt0yyjvPOQ0ulbdDsesMKMjxetxP1tHl1aAWfshXpbG/pubhtml

tender hollow Jun 11, 2020, 4:49 PM

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Ok slackeratc1. I did the discovery raid a couple of times but thats nowhere near the real thing right. Thanks for the feedback guys. Im gonna look into that build. Maybe see you saterday morning?

sonic sphinx Jun 11, 2020, 4:51 PM

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it's close, but there are some definite changes between the two

fathom sorrel Jun 11, 2020, 4:51 PM

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Discovery gives a good sense of the raid, but some mechanics are missing, enemies are tankier and do more damage, and group communication and timing is much more important. If you can find a group of 6-7 exp players to help you through your first few times it'll be no problem. Most groups are ok with that, you just have to tell them upfront that you are first time clear and they will help put you in the right spot.

sonic sphinx Jun 11, 2020, 4:51 PM

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at least you won't be going in completely blind

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but yeah, just be upfront about your experience--you'll be fine

tender hollow Jun 11, 2020, 4:54 PM

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Just looked at the build slackeratc1, the only part i do not have is the bulletking which im farming for next in the wall street mission. Im looking forward to the raid. 👍

sonic sphinx Jun 11, 2020, 4:55 PM

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bullet king is helpful but not essential

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a negev with fast hands or steady handed (and good aim) with the +50 round pouch from gunner can substitute in just fine

tender hollow Jun 11, 2020, 5:02 PM

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The bullet king is second last exotic gun i do not have, and it looks bad... Right!

oak oracle Jun 11, 2020, 5:34 PM

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Bk is a disguised water gun use 2 m1as or an m1a and a mg5

low temple Jun 11, 2020, 5:53 PM

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Ok why the hell discovery mode exists?

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Just tried it out to get the achievement and discovery mode actually will make you worse at doing normal raid.

hardy nova Jun 11, 2020, 6:15 PM

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anyone want play riad it normal

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add me Youssef96300

low temple Jun 11, 2020, 6:15 PM

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just go into the room chat channelbelow

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There you can search for raids or join a group

hardy nova Jun 11, 2020, 6:16 PM

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ok thx

oak oracle Jun 11, 2020, 6:31 PM

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Discovery exists so you can get a feel for the raid and to have some knowledge for the bosses for the real raid

tender hollow Jun 11, 2020, 8:21 PM

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Question: how does these checkpoints work? Can you fasttravel to em?

vagrant wing Jun 11, 2020, 8:30 PM

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Yes

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The checkpoints are valid until the next reset

lament harness Jun 11, 2020, 9:10 PM

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I mean discord by raid is kinda pointless

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The missing mechanisms and the stupid match making team mates make it next to@impossible to finish

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Good thing they aren’t bring it for the second one

earnest axle Jun 11, 2020, 10:35 PM

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What kind of build do I need for the raid? I'm running true Patriot/pestilence/glass cannon right now

icy hull Jun 11, 2020, 10:37 PM

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Full red max chc/ chd build.

earnest axle Jun 11, 2020, 10:39 PM

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@icy hull what gun? I'm currently 75% blue, 25% red

icy hull Jun 11, 2020, 10:44 PM

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Here's the meta raid build

Full meta Dps – all reds
3 prov
Coyote
Contractors
Fox prayer
Weapon: Cm1a + Fast hands MG5
Talents: Chest: unbreakable/ Pack: vigilance
Skills: revive hive + pulse/turret/heal (depends on boss and strat)

fathom sorrel Jun 11, 2020, 11:28 PM

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@earnest axle Another visual: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQs7Zp_040f0htRacOwPP-qc9DSozQZTaZ8nvt0yyjvPOQ0ulbdDsesMKMjxetxP1tHl1aAWfshXpbG/pubhtml

wise helm Jun 12, 2020, 4:08 PM

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Anyone running raid today?

rigid quiver Jun 12, 2020, 6:17 PM

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how this work exactly bc im new to this chanel ?

oak oracle Jun 12, 2020, 6:56 PM

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Its for asking questions about the raid but no matter how many times a mod says take it to the actual lfg it just doesn't happen

icy hull Jun 12, 2020, 7:01 PM

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lol right !

wet matrix Jun 12, 2020, 8:01 PM

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Any group playing the raid?

oak oracle Jun 13, 2020, 1:48 AM

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Oh ffs

valid marlin Jun 13, 2020, 6:14 AM

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@wise helm @wet matrix If you are looking for people to raid with use #578577794561474571

wet matrix Jun 13, 2020, 6:26 AM

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Will do.

verbal mist Jun 13, 2020, 2:43 PM

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Lol @oak oracle

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I’m proud to say got our time to 19 minutes and a few seconds last night . Woot woot

hushed kiln Jun 13, 2020, 2:52 PM

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ahahahahaha @oak oracle I felt the secondhand frustration

raven sable Jun 13, 2020, 3:16 PM

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Are people normally willing to take a rookie on a raid?

real hornet Jun 13, 2020, 3:44 PM

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Are people normally willing to take a rookie on a raid?
@raven sable depends on the group, some clans are happy to help, streamers are happy to help

raven sable Jun 13, 2020, 3:45 PM

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Thank you I’m mostly solo or duo just looking to get the raid done and get the eb ran tons raids on destiny hard to find a group for division thanks for reply

tender hollow Jun 13, 2020, 5:16 PM

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How come at time’s when boomer does his bashing animation I take 0 damage then next time I go down immediately how!

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? Fking hate that

ornate haven Jun 13, 2020, 6:02 PM

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Is it easy to find a raid group willing to teach two new raiders?

fiery nebula Jun 13, 2020, 8:04 PM

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@raven sable sending you a pm

hushed kiln Jun 13, 2020, 8:11 PM

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@ornate haven well it's usually as easy as asking

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I'd do it but my gaming rig is 🅱️ roke

night swan Jun 13, 2020, 8:39 PM

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guy i have a question, me and my buddies been trying to use the shock trap to stop boomer from throwing the grende but we have been failing for 2 hours, have they cancelled it?

ornate haven Jun 13, 2020, 9:06 PM

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ah alright thanks 🙂

bronze verge Jun 13, 2020, 10:27 PM

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We need three person for raid

sinful portal Jun 13, 2020, 10:29 PM

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@bronze verge still have space for + 1

bronze verge Jun 13, 2020, 10:30 PM

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yep

sinful portal Jun 13, 2020, 10:30 PM

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@bronze verge ok I’ll log in. ETA 5 min gamer tag is IsShumOneDare

bronze verge Jun 13, 2020, 10:32 PM

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my id is Elshatlawy

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you are xbox

sinful portal Jun 13, 2020, 10:33 PM

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@bronze verge I’m on Xbox, logging in now

bronze verge Jun 13, 2020, 10:33 PM

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iam on pc

sinful portal Jun 13, 2020, 10:34 PM

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@bronze verge lol that will not work

fathom sorrel Jun 13, 2020, 11:05 PM

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You can identify the platform by the color of the nickname, fyi. Purple = PC, Green = XB1, Red = PS4

oak oracle Jun 13, 2020, 11:13 PM

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@night swan it still works just fine

night swan Jun 13, 2020, 11:42 PM

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@night swan it still works just fine
@oak oracle he still throws the jammer when he’s shocked, maybe we did it wrong

oak oracle Jun 13, 2020, 11:44 PM

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Damage was too fast

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When the traps explode and they make that black cloud have the shock trapper call damage and then your dps will burst him down to the damage cap and then rinse and repeat

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@night swan

night swan Jun 13, 2020, 11:47 PM

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@oak oracle that’s what we did

oak oracle Jun 13, 2020, 11:49 PM

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Unless damage was too slow thats the reason her tosses the grenade

next bobcat Jun 14, 2020, 12:39 PM

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Providence on Lincoln Memorial today for those farming DPS/Raid build gear

wary bane Jun 14, 2020, 2:23 PM

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Lfg raid I can fill any role

tardy laurel Jun 14, 2020, 2:31 PM

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lfg raid

tender hollow Jun 14, 2020, 3:05 PM

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Are they nerfing the current raid build that everyone is running in TU10

verbal mist Jun 14, 2020, 3:27 PM

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@night swan it’s very hard to throw it in the right spot for boomer . Some do it with ease . Make sure you have status effect build on or it won’t work .

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@tender hollow somewhat yes

winged ore Jun 14, 2020, 3:29 PM

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he throws jammer when you shock him too late or when he stands up too fast. you need to control dps on him

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so once he is down, he has time to get shocked, and not stands up instantly

verbal mist Jun 14, 2020, 3:32 PM

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We’ve done it a few times it’s just tricky

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At least it is for us

winged ore Jun 14, 2020, 3:36 PM

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It is a bit tricky, but its mostly about controling dps. the best so only few shoots him when he's down.
you can't exceed 2 armor bars of damage each time, bcz then he stands up. he still can be shocked, but when he stands up too fast he will start throwing emp

golden lynx Jun 14, 2020, 4:00 PM

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Hey is that BTSU Glove thing people are using to kill Buddy and Lucy in like 20 seconds classed as an exploit?

flint iris Jun 14, 2020, 4:09 PM

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Btsu gloves is getting a nerf, and I’ve seen ppl on legit speed runs that kill them in less than 5 seconds @golden lynx

golden lynx Jun 14, 2020, 4:11 PM

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Yes but is the current way people are doing it an exploit.

winged ore Jun 14, 2020, 4:11 PM

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its not an exploit, pulses on overcharge gives +15% amplified damage, pulses stack together, so more people pulse, higher damage

magic karma Jun 14, 2020, 4:12 PM

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Anyone down to do a raid today got 5 already? PSn is JD_GOT10-10

tender hollow Jun 14, 2020, 5:13 PM

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@magic karma #lfg-raid-console

timber vortex Jun 14, 2020, 5:19 PM

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we're starting a fresh raid in RV4. need experienced raiders

clear helm Jun 14, 2020, 5:58 PM

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LFG, psn Skelly _Guy44

tender hollow Jun 14, 2020, 8:33 PM

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I got some experience and good build know mechanics, mjnd_63

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Anyone need one for raid?

oak oracle Jun 14, 2020, 9:53 PM

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Wrong chat

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#lfg-raid-console

tender hollow Jun 14, 2020, 10:19 PM

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Need one for raid

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mjnd_63

oak oracle Jun 14, 2020, 11:11 PM

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Guess its rocket science then

placid sundial Jun 14, 2020, 11:20 PM

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lfg PC - Experienced Raid

hushed kiln Jun 15, 2020, 1:08 AM

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@oak oracle the struggle never ends

oak oracle Jun 15, 2020, 1:14 AM

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The actual channel is too far i guess

harsh furnace Jun 15, 2020, 2:30 AM

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NEED 1 FRSH RAID RAID-VOICE-3

drifting valve Jun 15, 2020, 4:26 AM

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lfg raid

valid marlin Jun 15, 2020, 5:09 AM

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@tender hollow @placid sundial @harsh furnace @drifting valve If you are looking for people to raid with use the specific lfg channels, right underneath this channel:

PC: #lfg-raid-pc
PS4: #lfg-raid-console
XB1: #578577794561474571

meager umbra Jun 15, 2020, 5:23 AM

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Hey I had a question, do I need the expansion pack in order to do raids?

valid marlin Jun 15, 2020, 5:29 AM

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@meager umbra No, you don't need the DLC

meager umbra Jun 15, 2020, 5:29 AM

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okay ty

hushed kiln Jun 15, 2020, 9:10 AM

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Damn the mods really don't get paid enough to redirect people to lfg-raid.........maybe if they changed this channel's description it would help? Since it appears people are too lazy to read what each channel is for beforehand

tender hollow Jun 15, 2020, 9:28 AM

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NEED 1 FRSH RAID RAID-VOICE-3
@harsh furnace

Lol I’ll join

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For dark hours here’s 2 things I don’t like

All drone archetypes got replaced with the rusher which is a big nope for me
Over damage can’t be done on boomer or razorback

fossil cipher Jun 15, 2020, 9:33 AM

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@steel bough hey babe

tender hollow Jun 15, 2020, 9:33 AM

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Meaning in hc the shotgunners are gonna be a problem

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@steel bough @fossil cipher if it’s not about the raid take it to dm’s or #off-topic-discussions

fossil cipher Jun 15, 2020, 9:38 AM

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Whos this guy?

tender hollow Jun 15, 2020, 9:41 AM

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If you don’t wanna hear it from me @valid marlin will tell you

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If it’s nothing about the raid don’t talk about it here

fossil cipher Jun 15, 2020, 9:53 AM

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Arachion 😄

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Hey babe

tender hollow Jun 15, 2020, 9:57 AM

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I’m just saying. No need to get that defensive

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If your on PS4 join my party chat

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All 3 of youse

void chasm Jun 15, 2020, 2:22 PM

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Is there anyone will to teach the raid mechanics

vagrant wing Jun 15, 2020, 2:22 PM

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Youtube is your friend @void chasm

meager umbra Jun 15, 2020, 4:54 PM

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^^^^

oblique quest Jun 15, 2020, 5:35 PM

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Update is tomorrow at 4am central. Should I change my raid build from crits to weapon damage handling and headshot?

icy hull Jun 15, 2020, 5:47 PM

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i mean depends entirely on how good your aim is. if you have excellent aim, then that is good for all but buddy/lucy and razor back.

oak oracle Jun 15, 2020, 6:38 PM

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@tender hollow there is overdamage on rb, most teams can 3 phase and some can 1 phase

tender hollow Jun 15, 2020, 6:41 PM

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Over damage as in one shotting them all like the pc “speed run”

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I know you can 3 phase it

oak oracle Jun 15, 2020, 6:44 PM

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Yes as in the "speedrun" its really not that hard just need 3 people to have a good sync and get lucky

random turtle Jun 15, 2020, 7:39 PM

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Anyone for raid xb1? Linked chat is dead 😴

harsh furnace Jun 15, 2020, 8:38 PM

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1 more needed FRESH RAID RAID-VOICE-3

teal hound Jun 15, 2020, 9:18 PM

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Looking to raid if anyone is looking

oak oracle Jun 15, 2020, 9:41 PM

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Well this chat is even more dead thats why it isnt the .... LFG

random turtle Jun 15, 2020, 10:04 PM

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You should just chill 👍🏻

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And looking for a raid

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Cheers

tender hollow Jun 15, 2020, 11:26 PM

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raid for noobs
boomer: 2 people on turret, 1 at each letter in middle, 1 kiter and 1 at donut. destroy the nodes and kill ads, kiter should bring him towards 45 then do a 180 making sure his bp is facing 45, turret person launches fire on his bp, whoever has LOS of boomer do damage, turret person will now have aggro and should kite boomer to 41, 41 guy should call out what comp it is. E.G if its B, ONLY B has to interact, rinse repeat

weasel: 4 on each side, doesn't matter, B side has a dmg buff and A has a dmg debuff, B will know what panel it is, both sides press it at the same time, both bosses should die at the same time, A will now know what panel you have to press, again press at same time, recommended press it once the counts at 14

Buddy and lucy: 2 mechanical dogs, Buddy provides a heal while lucy has a one shot 360 spin, look at the armor bar at the top of your screen. keep them both in what shop they came out of, when lucy goes down get in cover and wait out that 360, buddy will heal after 6 secs and can overheal, next time he goes down he'll insta heal once he's up. make sure their armor in in between the bar, after that halfway mark every 2nd time buddy goes down he will heal, make sure to kill buddy first

and as for razorback its best watching a yt vid

hexed gust Jun 16, 2020, 1:14 AM

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Whats a raid?

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lol

flint iris Jun 16, 2020, 1:18 AM

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@hexed gust hard (for some ppl) endgame content that requires good teamwork and team coordination

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Also done in 8 man groups

hexed gust Jun 16, 2020, 1:19 AM

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So i need a mic ? @flint iris

flint iris Jun 16, 2020, 1:22 AM

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Preferably, yes

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But I guess text chat would work @hexed gust

hexed gust Jun 16, 2020, 1:23 AM

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aight

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also what

flint iris Jun 16, 2020, 1:23 AM

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A good build?

hexed gust Jun 16, 2020, 1:24 AM

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does LFM and LF5M
etc mean

flint iris Jun 16, 2020, 1:24 AM

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Like the red dps build with bk and m1a

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Idk about that but LF means looking for

hexed gust Jun 16, 2020, 1:24 AM

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k

hushed kiln Jun 16, 2020, 9:53 AM

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the number means looking for 5 man

tender hollow Jun 16, 2020, 1:17 PM

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You might need more skill damage to take out Razorback drones now, if you maxed out on repair skills before.

verbal nimbus Jun 16, 2020, 4:09 PM

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So anyone putting together a team to go for worlds first in Operation Iron Horse?

gray rose Jun 16, 2020, 4:15 PM

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I would love to be a part of team but sadly I am a lv30 player

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Cant afford dlc yet

verbal nimbus Jun 16, 2020, 4:20 PM

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Well if anyone is, or is interested and is EU Based then DM me. I am down

gray rose Jun 16, 2020, 4:35 PM

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Question
Can I do raids with lv40 players like can I survive and dmg enemies?

vagrant wing Jun 16, 2020, 5:13 PM

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Yes @gray rose lvl 30 joining lvl 40 scale up so if you have a half decent build, you should be fine

gray rose Jun 16, 2020, 5:13 PM

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@vagrant wing can u suggest me a build

wraith lance Jun 16, 2020, 5:17 PM

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yay no more shock trapping buddyt and lucy

eternal anvil Jun 16, 2020, 5:23 PM

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Hey can someone help me do raid for the first time i play xbox

normal mirage Jun 16, 2020, 5:46 PM

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who else is having a fun time killing drones in razor back TU10 lol

tender hollow Jun 16, 2020, 5:49 PM

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On razorback why don’t the drones die with the jammer build? The are a one shot once they are jammed

normal mirage Jun 16, 2020, 5:49 PM

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they changed something in TU10. A tier 6 HW build with jammer isnt enough to kill the drones...and the cooldown isnt fast enough to get the 2nd one off

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although the person who tested this didnt have any skill damage, so maybe that might make a difference

icy hull Jun 16, 2020, 5:54 PM

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i mean you needed at least +30ish total skill damage to 1 shot the drones before...

normal mirage Jun 16, 2020, 5:56 PM

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hm. So I guess the guy who was trying was lying then 😛

normal mirage Jun 16, 2020, 6:58 PM

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@icy hull do you know if its skill dmg or status effect that boosts dmg on jammer against drones?

icy hull Jun 16, 2020, 7:00 PM

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both

normal mirage Jun 16, 2020, 7:00 PM

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so if I have 4 pc HW , 2 of them with status effect and 2 with skill dmg it should be enough?

icy hull Jun 16, 2020, 7:05 PM

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should be. i forgot the exact needed amount but you need about 30ish total skill damage to 1 shot them.

normal mirage Jun 16, 2020, 7:06 PM

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hmm ok thanks. HW has some built in so I'll go test

icy hull Jun 16, 2020, 7:07 PM

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yes AND no.... on HW.

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the HW will help you with the 2nd wave but you might not have that damage boost for the 1st wave.

normal mirage Jun 16, 2020, 7:07 PM

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lol well thats not confusing. 3+pc = 15 skill dmg. if you throw in 2 more on the rolls should be 30 ish

icy hull Jun 16, 2020, 7:08 PM

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wait... forgot about the base skill damage lol

vital mural Jun 16, 2020, 8:03 PM

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is anyone else getting a ridiculous number of exotic drops?

civic turret Jun 16, 2020, 8:30 PM

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Just run skilled as talent.. Thats 8/10x 25% chance to skill reset

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No biggie

flint iris Jun 16, 2020, 10:47 PM

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@vital mural yea lol they increase it I think today

vital mural Jun 16, 2020, 11:01 PM

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I've gotten 7 from missions today....

low wedge Jun 17, 2020, 12:05 AM

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I need help with a raid ps4

random turtle Jun 17, 2020, 12:07 AM

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Anyone raiding xb1?

flint iris Jun 17, 2020, 12:33 AM

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@low wedge #lfg-raid-ps4

last dome Jun 17, 2020, 2:05 AM

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is everyone that upset with the raid being returned to normal? by that i mean not being able to shock trap

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There seem to be a lot of angry people down in the LFG chan o.O, i find it fun again at last

elfin bronze Jun 17, 2020, 2:50 AM

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You had an argument with literally like 3 participants... that's a far cry from everyone or a lot of angry ppl....

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Did the raid last night, just means a bit more work and can't cheese it

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but it's a little disappointing that bugs that favour players are generally fixed faster than others

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I also can't understand why BTSU was changed in that way if the intent was to fix people cheesing the raid.

plush apex Jun 17, 2020, 2:57 AM

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The problem is the eagle bearer drop rate... who wants to spend over potential hour long raid just to have 90% of no eagle beearer

flint iris Jun 17, 2020, 3:00 AM

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Bro if eagle bearer was dropping every single time it wouldn’t be special

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It would just be like any other gun

plush apex Jun 17, 2020, 3:01 AM

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Im not saying make it super high drop rate. At least make it reasonable especially when theres no matchmaking

flint iris Jun 17, 2020, 3:01 AM

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I mean I get it, it is frustrating to do raids over and over but eagle bearer is why you’re doing it

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Yes that I agree with

tender hollow Jun 17, 2020, 3:24 AM

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You might need more skill damage to take out Razorback drones now, if you maxed out on repair skills before.
@tender hollow you needed +40% to 50% before. I think you may need even more now. Remember there are bonuses on your SDH watch for skill damage and also technician drone bonus damage and out of cover bonus etc. etc.

tender hollow Jun 17, 2020, 4:38 AM

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EZ PZ lemon squeezy
@wispy perch what is your total +skill damage + SHD skill damage?

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so I had mine optimised so I could do more healing i.e. not maxed out skill damage on every piece, but now I gotta switch in more skill damage

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for the people i raid with i do. not always

eager mantle Jun 17, 2020, 5:24 AM

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I will say this: the raids should get matchmaking

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Iron Horse especially

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That way everyone gets a fair chance to play and learn the raid and all

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Maybe not so much for Dark Hours, but for Iron Horse, matchmaking would help

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IMHO, blocking matchmaking is what creates the problem of people not knowing the raid

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Plus it would help more people get the Eagle Bearer

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Which would also help balance PvP out

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Since PvP is broken Because of the Eagle Bearer

elfin bronze Jun 17, 2020, 5:44 AM

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I can't agree on the matchmaking is what is causing ppl to not know the raid

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Just my perspective - in other game where i have raided (WoW predominantly), there is matchmaking, but it's an easy version just like discovery mode

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But moving from discovery to normal requires a few pre-requisite too, and i think communication is a key part in raiding

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unless you can make sure ppl can communicate using voice and in a common language, it'll be tough to run in a matchmaking environment where it's possible many are new

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I started raiding about 3 weeks back, and it's ppl on this Discord who taught me the various strats using voice

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There was a guy on this discord a few days ago didn't speak very good english and didn't / couldn't understand the explanations, we ended up having to kick him because everytime he gets to boomer he just jumps on the turret and start the encounter, or won't shoo the backpack etc

west spruce Jun 17, 2020, 5:48 AM

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Matchmaking in the current discovery raid is actually not teaching people the right mechanics; hence when they transition to normal raid all the bad habits were brought over. Unless it's implemented with the same raid but at an easier difficulty (NPC with less health and less damage) and exactly same mechanic, matchmaking in its current state won't help

elfin bronze Jun 17, 2020, 5:48 AM

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Maybe something like mark yourself as experienced or not and have a group where it's 6 experience & 2 new might work

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Yeah it's stripped of mechanics

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It's also in a way trend of gaming - Majority don't enjoy 2 hr raids, they enjoy difficulty but in say 30 mins sessions similar to MOBA, i can only imagine Discovery with the same mechanics, it'll take a matchmaking group forever to learn if nobody in the group can lead and everyone actually listens

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I think one thing that WoW had that might work for Div2 is the LFG tool that they implemented in later expansions in the game

hushed kiln Jun 17, 2020, 6:44 AM

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@elfin bronze the problem here is that Raids can take just half an hour. An experienced (and unskilled) group can consistently churn out 30 minute times. The guys in my clan are only gamers on the side but when we were finally free to do a raid together it took just 25 minutes

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Unfortunately raids aren't always 30 minutes because if Massive made the raid easy enough to clear in 30 minutes first try, it would be so easy that experienced groups like my clan could clear it in 15 minutes or even 5, doing the raid 6 times in a 30 minute span

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Maybe not my clan but I'm sure those chaps on YouTube wouldn't have a problem doing a 5 minute clear on a shorter raid

lavish ocean Jun 17, 2020, 6:46 AM

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It wouldnt be a raid anymore, just a glorified mission xD

hushed kiln Jun 17, 2020, 6:49 AM

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Yeah, that's the issue.

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I mean Massive did do a pretty good job working around this by allowing you to save your progress on bosses. The real trouble is that for some reason I cannot pinpoint, matchmaking here takes forever and a half

tender hollow Jun 17, 2020, 9:21 AM

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Why does razorback feel harder? It’s not enough SD to kill them and drones are out while we’re damaging it. Would be a 2 phase but vigilance is lost almost immediate for us all

elfin bronze Jun 17, 2020, 9:37 AM

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If the group has a good jammer build person should still take care of the drones no problem

unique dove Jun 17, 2020, 9:58 AM

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Here we go again, shoot the drones. SHOOT THE DRONES. Someone shoot the drones. Oh, we wipe. Please, shoot the drones guys.

hushed kiln Jun 17, 2020, 10:06 AM

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Wait why isn't there anyone jamming on the team?

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I mean it sucks but sometimes if everyone has skill tier 1 jammers all the circle players must run jammer

unique dove Jun 17, 2020, 10:07 AM

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This isn't a thing in first month of the raid, we used to just shoot, ain't hard to shoot it unless you staring at it menacingly

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But hey, if you like admire the drone shooting at you and you enjoy going down, kudos

hushed kiln Jun 17, 2020, 10:08 AM

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Okay don't laugh but how do you guys shoot the drones? I can never get enough of the damned things to go down even with BK

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Like there's just too many

unique dove Jun 17, 2020, 10:09 AM

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Wot ? There's only 3 waves

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And it's like, 10 drones or so at a time

hushed kiln Jun 17, 2020, 10:10 AM

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Wait what? I get at least 15 or more judging from how much stuff drops when I jam

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That's actually weird

unique dove Jun 17, 2020, 10:10 AM

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Maybe it is 15 but it's like 5 ~ 7 each side if I'm not wrong

hushed kiln Jun 17, 2020, 10:10 AM

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Let me use the BK next raid and get back to you. Maybe my counting just sucks

unique dove Jun 17, 2020, 10:11 AM

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Who cares how many, literally shoot it 🐵

hushed kiln Jun 17, 2020, 10:11 AM

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Yeah 5-7 each side, that seems about right. It's just so hard to aim against the sky

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Although I can understand what you're saying is people are literally not firing

unique dove Jun 17, 2020, 10:11 AM

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Wot ? You playing with a controller.. ? Just prepare ? It's 8 man group, the people killing ads can pre aim the drones

hushed kiln Jun 17, 2020, 10:12 AM

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Huh. Never thought of that somehow.

unique dove Jun 17, 2020, 10:12 AM

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Again, whichever method people prefer, go ahead but the moment people bitch about drones, I'm just gonna roast your ass for it

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The drones always land the same spot in a line everytime, unless you been blinded by a bald teammate, that's an excuse

hushed kiln Jun 17, 2020, 10:13 AM

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I chuckled.

unique dove Jun 17, 2020, 10:13 AM

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Oh ya ? You should try first month of the raid where team goes down and bitch about drones

hushed kiln Jun 17, 2020, 10:14 AM

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That's.... Actually good advice.

unique dove Jun 17, 2020, 10:14 AM

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Not sure if it still works but you can stop the drone from spawning by survive long enough not to go down since it's per wave and there's a limit

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Older times, we could just slap extra heals while having mad damage I say and single person bitch about drone 👨‍🦽

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Only fight I'm seeing now is Lucy and Buddy back to the old method but I haven't done it, so I don't know what people do now

hushed kiln Jun 17, 2020, 10:18 AM

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I'm guessing we're back to doing it the usual way :(

unique dove Jun 17, 2020, 10:19 AM

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I don't know what is usual way, there's so many "USUAL" for it

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Could be 6 buddy, 2 lucy, 4 - 4, just leave and find another group or rage quit 🐵

hushed kiln Jun 17, 2020, 10:24 AM

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5 buddy 3 lucy you mean, the groups I find don't have the DPS for a 6-2

west spruce Jun 17, 2020, 10:25 AM

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With regards to Lucy & Buddy I always like the method whereby everyone stays at the far end of the entrance, so everyone gets to headshot both Lucy & Buddy as they come closer to you; when one of them get too close, get everyone to overdamage Lucy/Buddy a little and they will start retreating back to the middle of the area to begin their overcharge. During that time get everyone to rebalance their armor % again. Rinse and repeat until this is over.

unique dove Jun 17, 2020, 10:28 AM

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Oh, now people are confident with 5 - 3 strat ?

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You just described the normal method to do Lucy and Buddy, it's nothing new then. Might as well start a camp fire and blast some Rick Ashley

plush berry Jun 17, 2020, 12:44 PM

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Is it even worth taking a status effect build for weasel/lucy/buddy anymore now? I put one together to try the shock trap just last week! xD

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Our group couldn't get shock trap to work back then, mistimed the shutters, I suspect, so I was going to try it this week, but I hear it's been changed a lot.

hushed kiln Jun 17, 2020, 1:39 PM

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@plush berry this is my tested and proven method (before TU10) to defeat Buddy and Lucy. Take note that all methods have a chance of failing, due to Lucy randomly not getting paralysed. Try testing it with this before ditching your build https://www.evernote.com/shard/s332/sh/0e0d59f0-9c13-4b7d-892e-083a9eff1bb2/0e65ad77aaba45ea34eddd33b4ac69c7

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Ignore the rest about Overcharge since it no longer works

plush berry Jun 17, 2020, 1:41 PM

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oh, that's nice, so who needs to have skill tier 6 tho?

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shock trap thrower?

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or even the BTSU wearer? since I read that got changed as well

verbal mist Jun 17, 2020, 1:42 PM

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Ran three raids yesterday . I run tier 6 jammer . Worked fine in drones except they fixed hardwired reset so I would highly recommend skilled on chest

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Yes it’s harder because we can’t stack pulse . But overall wasn’t too bad

plush berry Jun 17, 2020, 1:44 PM

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Yes it’s harder because we can’t stack pulse . But overall wasn’t too bad
@verbal mist I built it with status effects/skill haste like a cc build, thinking that'd prolong the cc, but I'm not quite sure if that's even the proper way

verbal mist Jun 17, 2020, 1:44 PM

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Shock trap fkd

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Buddy and Lucy don’t stick for me . We had to ol skool them

plush berry Jun 17, 2020, 1:45 PM

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that's how our group did it last week, too, but we couldn't seem to separate them, either

verbal mist Jun 17, 2020, 1:46 PM

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@plush berry try 4 hw with skill damage and one wyvern

west spruce Jun 17, 2020, 1:46 PM

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hardwired reset works fine, though skilled is a good safety net

verbal mist Jun 17, 2020, 1:46 PM

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Run healer hive and jammer

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I use 4 hw with glass cannon but they nerfed hw so I switched to wyvern chest with skilled

west spruce Jun 17, 2020, 1:47 PM

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30 seconds cd shouldn't really impact Jammer or Hive in anyway unless it's revive hive

verbal mist Jun 17, 2020, 1:48 PM

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It can be a bit stressing when everyone starts yelling drones

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Problem with pulling buddy and Lucy is only one person needs to agro them . Most times everyone wants to shoot . Pull them in room then unload

plush berry Jun 17, 2020, 1:50 PM

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thanks, that was probably it, there's no telling what will happen on any pug xD

verbal mist Jun 17, 2020, 1:51 PM

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True

plush berry Jun 17, 2020, 1:51 PM

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nobody was quite sure how to even use the BTSUs, so I started looking into it a bit and they went and changed all of it again xD

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since I have the BTSUs, I figured why not then

verbal mist Jun 17, 2020, 1:51 PM

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I pull buddy different than others . It’s just what your comfortable with

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I have great status build . Worked a bunch but after update nope

plush berry Jun 17, 2020, 1:52 PM

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that bad? aww

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so.. with healing hive and jammer, what does the skill damage do?

verbal mist Jun 17, 2020, 1:52 PM

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Won’t freeze them long enough for our team

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Skill damage works with jammer

plush berry Jun 17, 2020, 1:52 PM

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ah!

verbal mist Jun 17, 2020, 1:53 PM

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Not sure what it does for heal but it works great

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Full armor someone in 1 second

plush berry Jun 17, 2020, 1:54 PM

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I might even still have my artillery turret set, so that should fit, but not sure what the chest had, overwatch probably

west spruce Jun 17, 2020, 1:54 PM

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skill dmg is only meant for 1 shot drones with jammer

verbal mist Jun 17, 2020, 1:54 PM

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It clears all drones

plush berry Jun 17, 2020, 1:55 PM

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they're supposed to be one shot with jammer? 😮 I was always trying to clean them up with baker's after they got hit xzD

verbal mist Jun 17, 2020, 1:55 PM

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No

plush berry Jun 17, 2020, 1:56 PM

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yup, pugs, I was on chongas, on crossbow duty, grenade duty, and gennie and ads and

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and the drones, yes

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might as well use the jammer with skill damage, the seeker mender runs away and hides half the time!

verbal mist Jun 17, 2020, 1:57 PM

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Your gen guy needs to pulse . He needs to run up to razor literally face staring at razor and pulse . My first pulse is from gen after I blow grill out I pulse then walk up to razor and listen . You can hear them flying out . Should clear all of them

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I hate that seeker mender . Works great solo but runs off in group .

plush berry Jun 17, 2020, 2:00 PM

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I guess I might as well do that part myself, since I usually have survivalist, does the pulse reach all of them? they seem a bit invulnerable right as they appear

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I checked a lot of vids, but most of them didn't really go into detail on certain things, particularly the skill things, strangely! Thanks for the help! 🙂

hushed kiln Jun 17, 2020, 2:04 PM

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@plush berry I really don't know, cause I can't login. Sorry dude

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In the old method literally no one needs it, the non-overcharged shock traps shock for long enough if they work, and BTSU grants overcharge no matter what skill tier the user or everyone has

plush berry Jun 17, 2020, 2:09 PM

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@hushed kiln They've been changed, "Changed functionality to no longer grant group/raid-wide overcharge unless you are skill tier 6" (https://forums.ubisoft.com/showthread.php/2236578-Title-Update-10-Patch-Notes]

hushed kiln Jun 17, 2020, 2:10 PM

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dammit!!!!!!

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Well that's very unfortunate. Excuse my french.

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I'm just going through a very emotional time after my Hard Wired reviver tank got nerfed.

unique dove Jun 17, 2020, 2:16 PM

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I'm with you spiritually

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Dude, you in Raid Discussion

sharp kindle Jun 17, 2020, 2:17 PM

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Oh sorry

sharp kindle Jun 17, 2020, 4:43 PM

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After the update, most of the raids I have played are taking lot of time. It would take 30 mins now it takes 20 minutes itself in killing the boomer.

hazy bear Jun 17, 2020, 5:49 PM

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Can you do the raid if you are level 40 and a friend is level 30?

icy hull Jun 17, 2020, 5:52 PM

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they can join your group and their base damage, health, armor and skill damage gets scaled up. their stat rolls (besides these) do not scale though.

sonic sphinx Jun 17, 2020, 6:39 PM

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also re: btsu, they fixed scanner pulse stacking in general, not just the btsu changes

undone bane Jun 17, 2020, 6:46 PM

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Cool leak from Ubisoft ppl already done 80% of the new raid

lapis kindle Jun 17, 2020, 7:25 PM

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@undone bane How so?

strange rose Jun 17, 2020, 11:21 PM

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does pulse stack anymore, when using btsu ?

flint iris Jun 17, 2020, 11:42 PM

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Nope @strange rose

normal mirage Jun 17, 2020, 11:44 PM

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@strange rose they dont stack at all, regardless of btsu

plush apex Jun 17, 2020, 11:50 PM

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@strange rose "Fixed an issue that could cause the Weakness Exploit debuff to stack several times."

strange rose Jun 18, 2020, 12:02 AM

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and they increased helath of the drones

dull stag Jun 18, 2020, 12:25 AM

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Does the eagle bearer guarantee to drop after beating normal five times?

vagrant wing Jun 18, 2020, 12:27 AM

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No. Out of curiosity where did you get that number from?

dull stag Jun 18, 2020, 12:28 AM

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Reference https://www.gamesradar.com/division-2-eagle-bearer-exotic-assault-rifle-how-to-get-guide/

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Quote: “The only guaranteed way to obtain the Eagle Bearer exotic is to beat the raid five times. Yeah... that may sound easy enough, but the raid is far more difficult than anything we've seen in The Division 2 before. Beating it five times will allow you to open the locked chest in the back of the plane after beating the final boss. You better get grinding!”

vagrant wing Jun 18, 2020, 12:28 AM

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I see

dull stag Jun 18, 2020, 12:29 AM

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I wonder if this old and referring to the loot box at the end and if originally you can only get 1 key per mission completion?

vagrant wing Jun 18, 2020, 12:29 AM

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It's not true. It's RNG based drop. Less then 1% from each boss IF it's the first time you doing it on a said week. 10% from the box at the end (require 5 keys)

dull stag Jun 18, 2020, 12:30 AM

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Thanks @vagrant wing

vagrant wing Jun 18, 2020, 12:30 AM

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I wonder if this old and referring to the loot box at the end and if originally you can only get 1 key per mission completion?
@dull stag No it was never the case

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np

dull stag Jun 18, 2020, 12:31 AM

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TU10 really made it a lot harder. Couldn’t complete it with two clans today and they were super frustrated with the weak point buffs

tender hollow Jun 18, 2020, 12:33 AM

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It's not true. It's an RNG base drop. Less then 1% from each boss IF it's the first time you doing it on a said week. 10% from the box at the end (require 5 keys)
@vagrant wing "Less then 1% from each boss IF it's the first time you doing it on a said week." - this correlates more with reality now vs 1% from each boss

dull stag Jun 18, 2020, 12:34 AM

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People starting to think Raid is a waste of time and effort and rather farm missions. Sucks for those who still want the eagle bearer

vagrant wing Jun 18, 2020, 12:34 AM

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What are you trying to say @tender hollow ?

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Sorry @dull stag but the raid is there for almost a year now. Most hardcore players either done it so much time they couldn't enjoy it anymore or quit the game all together

dull stag Jun 18, 2020, 12:42 AM

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@vagrant wing yeah I understand. I got into the game only two months ago. So it sucks for those new to the game

tender hollow Jun 18, 2020, 12:42 AM

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People have been saying 1% drop chance for EB from the first bosses. But really something like "Less then 1% from each boss IF it's the first time you doing it on a said week." is more accurate

vagrant wing Jun 18, 2020, 12:43 AM

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Well ppl got it wrong. You have a 1% chance for AN exotic drop (any exotic) from each boss in the raid. Sum the amount of exotics minus big horn and maybe the new ones like Coyote's mask and so on and you'll get less than 1% for each exotic (EB or not)

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As for "only for the first time in a week" not sure where i picked it up but pretty sure it's true

tender hollow Jun 18, 2020, 12:54 AM

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Boomer seems harder than hell to kill went with a experienced crew and didn’t make it

vagrant wing Jun 18, 2020, 12:56 AM

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It's frustrating for the first couple times... Team comm is key. All red builds will make things easier too

tender hollow Jun 18, 2020, 12:57 AM

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Yep 6 of our team had over a 100 clears and once we got him to half he it went downhill

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DPS is the key. The more the better. Too many people running unbreakable is not good. https://www.reddit.com/r/thedivision/comments/g9w0xj/baseline_dps_build_for_any_contentraid/
210 is max CHD for a rifle build.

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I think he is just harder

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oh we got 12% nerf to M1A / Bakers too and he may have more health like the drones

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Yes but mine is still hitting well over 400

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Yes I think that the speed running days are over for a little bit

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Maybe it was becoming a little too easy

dull stag Jun 18, 2020, 1:29 AM

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Anyone actually complete it since the TU10 update?

tender hollow Jun 18, 2020, 1:37 AM

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Not that I know of but I’m sure someone has

sonic oak Jun 18, 2020, 2:42 AM

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I've completed the raid. It's challenging, but with enough DPS, communication, and patience, it can be done.

ashen scaffold Jun 18, 2020, 2:56 AM

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Its not that different tbh

molten glen Jun 18, 2020, 3:54 AM

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changes to the btsu overcharged pulse is lame, makes the raid way less fun

dusty snow Jun 18, 2020, 5:41 AM

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wut

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it's slightly more effort that's about it

subtle hemlock Jun 18, 2020, 5:48 AM

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anyone wanna run?

subtle hemlock Jun 18, 2020, 6:50 AM

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NEED 1

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RAID VOICE 1

tender hollow Jun 18, 2020, 6:51 AM

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I am in

valid marlin Jun 18, 2020, 6:52 AM

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If you are looking for people to raid with use the specific lfg channels, right underneath this channel:

PC: #lfg-raid-pc
PS4: #lfg-raid-console
XB1: #578577794561474571

subtle hemlock Jun 18, 2020, 6:57 AM

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NEED 1 MORE ON PC

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JOIN RAID VOICE 1

valid marlin Jun 18, 2020, 7:00 AM

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@subtle hemlock READ WHAT I POSTED RIGHT ABOVE YOUR POST

tender hollow Jun 18, 2020, 8:13 AM

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Had a bullet king drop from weasel. Not me but a friend. And on the razorback screen “weekly” exclusive loot contains 2 GS items, 2 named, and an exotic component. When I did it I only got the one named item

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NEED 1 MORE ON PC
@subtle hemlock
JOIN RAID VOICE 1
@subtle hemlock
Yo man RV1 is dead so idk how you possibly need one 🤔🤔

hushed kiln Jun 18, 2020, 9:33 AM

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@subtle hemlock READ WHAT I POSTED RIGHT ABOVE YOUR POST
I know that feeling. Some people..................

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We need a bot in ALL channels that detects any mention of "raid" or "voice" and sends this message

If you are looking for people to raid with use the specific lfg channels, right underneath this channel:

PC: #lfg-raid-pc
PS4: #lfg-raid-ps4
XB1: #lfg-raid-xb1

empty quiver Jun 18, 2020, 10:20 AM

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Sorry if this isn't the right place for this but where do I go to find resources to start becoming raid ready?

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By this i mean, i have no idea what damage/builds/utility i need to actually be wanted by groups

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I've done the 1st raid before, but its been months since then and i'm actually just now returning to the game

loud ledge Jun 18, 2020, 10:45 AM

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Youtube

hushed kiln Jun 18, 2020, 10:48 AM

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@empty quiver fuck it I'm gonna make a raid crash course

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Give me like half an hour

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@empty quiver Don't believe everything you are told on YouTube. There's lots of bad info and bad builds out there.
https://www.evernote.com/shard/s332/sh/88b22f4b-7a4e-4ee1-8e9a-5bb418ba99b6/dff56e9017dbc933516ab81cff4475bb

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These are videos I have watched and strategies I have tested. These DO work.

empty quiver Jun 18, 2020, 11:06 AM

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@hushed kiln Thanks much, I'll check this out

hushed kiln Jun 18, 2020, 11:07 AM

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div2salute

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Happy raiding

empty quiver Jun 18, 2020, 11:15 AM

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So I have a couple questions, and I think I'll ask here so any other curious players might benefit

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Is the mainbuild at the top your default and you switch accordingly? Like to a swet dreams for something else as needed?

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Also with the situation of tanking or healing, is that specific to your team or encounter

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And do you have any info on raid tanking specifically? TBH im surprised its a thing even minimally, I love tanking in games

warm ibex Jun 18, 2020, 12:32 PM

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So i switch my builds at every encounter. I also have one mainbuild which i can adjust if needed when carrying new players and things go wrong. TBH there is no real tank needed and there is really no use for a healer. If you want to be perfect prepared for this raid go for a skill dmg, pure dps, hs damage and a dronecontrol quick cooldown build

frosty osprey Jun 18, 2020, 12:45 PM

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Hi all. first time in here. ls this the right channel to find people to do the raid with

left wind Jun 18, 2020, 12:51 PM

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@frosty osprey nope you want to go to #lfg-raid-pc

frosty osprey Jun 18, 2020, 12:51 PM

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thks

left wind Jun 18, 2020, 12:51 PM

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Oh you're one xbox

frosty osprey Jun 18, 2020, 12:52 PM

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PC

left wind Jun 18, 2020, 12:52 PM

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PC in the chat I said

frosty osprey Jun 18, 2020, 12:53 PM

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oh than what was the one xbox comment about ?

left wind Jun 18, 2020, 12:56 PM

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It's called "lfg-raid-pc" so I don't know if xbox must look elsewhere

covert sand Jun 18, 2020, 1:22 PM

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Do folks still raid regularly? I haven't completed either discovery or normal before. Wanna unlock blueprints.

hushed kiln Jun 18, 2020, 2:52 PM

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And do you have any info on raid tanking specifically? TBH im surprised its a thing even minimally, I love tanking in games
@empty quiver It's very useful in the first 3 bosses and the in between. Here have my build https://www.evernote.com/l/AUw8oCCx_vFPUL9WE0FWWN-u03yQfLNTnj4/

swift ledge Jun 18, 2020, 10:19 PM

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Is it just me or has the razorback been shit after tu10? Grendadier are target locked it seems, during boomer its like a freakin guaranteed spawn with 2 additional yellow ads

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Enemies are damage spunges again

next bobcat Jun 18, 2020, 10:59 PM

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@swift ledge nope. Just ran it, it's the same minus the benefit of the BTSU dmg. But wasn't any different imo

tender hollow Jun 18, 2020, 11:00 PM

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M1A damage nerf of 12%, drones in Razorback have more health. CC effects like shock has less duration. Cannot spam EMP pulse with HW anymore.

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Anyone work out what cooldown is needed for the drones in RB? If you use HW x4 with backpack you can use feedback loop every 10 secs but its tricky to achieve if RB is many phases.

vagrant wing Jun 18, 2020, 11:06 PM

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@tender hollow it depends how fast your team destroying the weakpoints. Under normal circumstances 12sec or lower is fine. For faster & exp teams it might not gonna cut it

tender hollow Jun 18, 2020, 11:12 PM

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@tender hollow only difference is change the pulse jammer build to technician and drop the bow. Techician skill dmg is multi
@next bobcat yeah might be the sacrifice that is required. aaaah

next bobcat Jun 18, 2020, 11:13 PM

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Switched to technician and 👍

tender hollow Jun 18, 2020, 11:14 PM

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Switched to technician and 👍
@next bobcat what is your cooldown for Jammer Pulse? I can get it down to 11.9 but could be better as my Chest peice isn't OP

hazy bear Jun 18, 2020, 11:16 PM

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Do people still run sherpa raids?

tender hollow Jun 18, 2020, 11:17 PM

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@next bobcat @vagrant wing Thnx for your advice. Need to try some things out. Would like to keep Overwatch if possible too.

next bobcat Jun 18, 2020, 11:17 PM

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Np bud gl

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@hazy bear just go in the LFG and be honest about your skill level. You'll find someone. Good time to do it before the new raid drops and we all vanish lol

ashen hull Jun 19, 2020, 12:14 AM

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I am looking to do the raid later tonight on xbox

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Does someone care to join me?

silent blaze Jun 19, 2020, 12:44 AM

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any videos bout div2 raid that i can watch to learn bout the raid mechanics?

vagrant wing Jun 19, 2020, 12:47 AM

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Search on youtube maybe?

next bobcat Jun 19, 2020, 1:40 AM

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@silent blaze best way to learn is run Discovery to get the basics and join an LFG group willing to teach. Vids are a good starting point but there's so many they're often outdated or not what you're lookin for specifically

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@silent blaze put together a decent DPS build and join an lfg group

silent blaze Jun 19, 2020, 1:42 AM

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thanks @next bobcat

random turtle Jun 19, 2020, 1:50 AM

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Anyone have any tips on getting the foxes prayer kneecaps??

next bobcat Jun 19, 2020, 1:53 AM

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@random turtle farm Overlord targeted loot on challenging or heroic

hazy bear Jun 19, 2020, 2:00 AM

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Are tank builds not viable for the raid?

opal heron Jun 19, 2020, 2:01 AM

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they are not worth running, they generally slow you down.

next bobcat Jun 19, 2020, 2:11 AM

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@hazy bear there's several ways to run a tank archetype in a raid successfully. But if you're asking, at this point you may be best to put together a DPS build first

tender hollow Jun 19, 2020, 3:13 AM

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they are not worth running, they generally slow you down.
@opal heron short answer - 1 less person doing damage in a what is a DPS check isn't ideal

opal heron Jun 19, 2020, 3:36 AM

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pretty much

silent blaze Jun 19, 2020, 5:15 AM

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whats the difference between discovery mode and normal mode for raids?

vagrant wing Jun 19, 2020, 5:20 AM

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https://discordapp.com/channels/477210626742288384/578577872701095956/666317882136985620
@silent blaze

silent blaze Jun 19, 2020, 5:20 AM

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@vagrant wing thanks

vagrant wing Jun 19, 2020, 5:20 AM

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np

normal mirage Jun 19, 2020, 5:28 AM

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so does anyone know how much skill dmg / status effect for sure kills drones? I think I tested with around +60% skill dmg with t6 jammer and it wasnt enough

dapper gyro Jun 19, 2020, 6:20 AM

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Afaik our teams said 70%-75% seems to be the sweet spot for now. @normal mirage

left pecan Jun 19, 2020, 6:37 AM

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Hey I am new I just wondered where can I find group for a raid on PS4

valid marlin Jun 19, 2020, 6:46 AM

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@left pecan In #lfg-raid-console

normal mirage Jun 19, 2020, 7:14 AM

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@dapper gyro I will try that, thanks

empty quiver Jun 19, 2020, 10:45 AM

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SO i was just in a raid group and someone mentioned that the current raid is largely dps checks, but the new one will have more emphasis on coordination i guess? Anyone know where I can find more info on that?

random turtle Jun 19, 2020, 11:44 AM

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Is it just me or does there never seem to be an overlord armaments main mission to farm? 🤔

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Really trying to get the foxes prayer pads, game’s just against me haha

verbal mist Jun 19, 2020, 11:51 AM

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Do the areas then run kneepads @random turtle

next bobcat Jun 19, 2020, 12:13 PM

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@random turtle open world is far better chances and far less boring

random turtle Jun 19, 2020, 12:13 PM

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Cheers balls mcdangly

next bobcat Jun 19, 2020, 12:22 PM

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@normal mirage the Technician dmg buff is multiplicative

ripe jewel Jun 19, 2020, 1:53 PM

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@empty quiver there hasn't been any info yet outside of the teaser and what the devs want to say about it. We only have the leak of the raid journal, which doesn't tell that much. I don't know how he knew but for now it's hard to make assumptions on the next raid.

hushed kiln Jun 19, 2020, 4:37 PM

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@hazy bear they are very useful for lower DPS groups who don't kill ads fast. I tend to run tank for the first 3 bosses, I will switch when I'm asked to but then people start to drop like flies

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(Cause my tank gives armour with Perfect Vanguard)

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But if you are with an experienced group don't bother with tank

next bobcat Jun 19, 2020, 4:43 PM

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@hushed kiln exactly what I meant. And on LFG groups you should prep for 1-2 not having the proper dmg/talents/gear

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I kite Boomer with a tank-ish build with Vanguard and a restorer hive to help surviveability in random groups. Also tank 1-7 model with Richochet and the gang. Also tank-ish build for Buddy/Lucy to hold Buddy in place now that there is no BTSU burn for the pups anymore.

hushed kiln Jun 19, 2020, 4:46 PM

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I actually have a clan here but most of them have tight schedules. They don't get much practice and go down easier than some random groups

next bobcat Jun 19, 2020, 4:48 PM

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With my clan I don't have to tank. But when someone new to raids is asking is it a viable build my answer is yes. Yes it is.

icy hull Jun 19, 2020, 4:52 PM

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having 1 vanguard and or tardigrade is nice in raids (doesnt have to be tank builds, just the talents tbh).

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Also having 1-2 people with opportunist talent for Boss 2 and 3 is really nice. also 1 with overwatch 😄

next bobcat Jun 19, 2020, 4:57 PM

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@icy hull agreed and that's the problem is "tank" has different meanings for everyone. For me tank is a positional term, if you're pulling out a shield and kiting/drawing damage from a boss... you're a tank. Even if you have 4 red DPS piece on imo

icy hull Jun 19, 2020, 4:59 PM

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In mmo terms.
Tank = someone who can take excessive amounts of damage and protect the team.
Tanky = someone who can take an amount of damage but no where near the amount of a Tank.

tender hollow Jun 19, 2020, 7:39 PM

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Why do people lfg here? Can’t they read the title it’s raid discussions

hushed kiln Jun 19, 2020, 7:47 PM

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that's one of the mysteries of the universe

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The mods here really don't get paid enough to do this shit

next bobcat Jun 19, 2020, 9:02 PM

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@hushed kiln the mods get paid? Lol

hushed kiln Jun 19, 2020, 9:02 PM

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I sure hope so

orchid zealot Jun 19, 2020, 9:30 PM

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I hope they do get paid

vagrant wing Jun 19, 2020, 10:42 PM

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@normal mirage after testing today, to one shot the drones you need ~82% skill dmg on your build + 10% skill dmg from the Technician spec. (as a stand alone if you have Demos in your group you can do it with ~62%)

normal mirage Jun 19, 2020, 10:43 PM

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@vagrant wing thanks for testing 🙂 I've seen other ppl do it with less skill damage and run Glass cannon with their jammer. I think glass cannon dmg is multiplicative

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although your method is a lot safer haha

vagrant wing Jun 19, 2020, 10:44 PM

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@tender hollow cool down between the waves should be 11 sec or lower (i don't know if it's even possible) and not 12 sec as i stated before.

tender hollow Jun 19, 2020, 10:44 PM

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@normal mirage after testing today, to one shot the drones you need 70% skill dmg on you build + 10% skill dmg from the Technician spec. (as a stand alone if you have Demos in your group you can do it with less skill dmg)
@vagrant wing does the +70% + tech spec include +10% from your SHD watch?

vagrant wing Jun 19, 2020, 10:45 PM

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Yes @normal mirage Glass cannon is multiplicative but in that case you can't run skilled...

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@tender hollow yes. Let me post my build stats:
10% from wyvern + 10% from 2 pieces Hana-U + 6*10% from the gear pieces minus ~10 (not all of my stats are maxed out) + whatever mod to increase dmg on my pulse + 8% from my watch

normal mirage Jun 19, 2020, 10:50 PM

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70% is not that hard to get at least, we can just get 4pc hw and roll the attribute to skill dmg 🙂

tender hollow Jun 19, 2020, 10:50 PM

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fyi on Discovery +85 survivalist including +10 from watch isnt enough. No Demolitionist in the raid. Someone said that the +12 technicial dam to drones was multiplicative

vagrant wing Jun 19, 2020, 10:51 PM

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The 10% from the Tech spec is multiplicative - that's why

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Btw @tender hollow The Demo need to be in your sub group afaik

tender hollow Jun 19, 2020, 10:58 PM

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+95 is enough (+85 not enough) in Discovery for survivalist including +10 from watch. No demolitionists.
imo Note tech build is the way to go otherwise cooldown high

vagrant wing Jun 19, 2020, 10:59 PM

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What are you using for the chest talent?

tender hollow Jun 19, 2020, 11:00 PM

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What are you using for the chest talent?
@vagrant wing Efficient. Its my 2nd char

vagrant wing Jun 19, 2020, 11:01 PM

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Alright. so i guess with Glass cannon you can drop 20% or so and spec these towards skill haste

next bobcat Jun 19, 2020, 11:26 PM

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You don't need glass cannon for the pulse build on razor if I read the string right.

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Run technician and a standard 4 piece HW with skilled on the chest

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Skill dmg on the 4 pieces, the watch buff and technician. You don't need any skill dmg on the chest if you don't have it.

vagrant wing Jun 19, 2020, 11:37 PM

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You're welcome to try 🙂
let me know if it's working or not

tender hollow Jun 20, 2020, 12:20 AM

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As per @next bobcat, in Discovery +55 on gear and +10 on watch and +22 from tech spec is enough to take out the drones, but there was a Demolitionist in the group so not sure if required.

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On my main that has Overwatch, my pulse cooldown is 12 secs, but if I had +12 skill haste on it instead of 0, the cooldown would be 11.4 secs, and my improvised holster only has 9.3% skill haste, so could get an extra 2.7% skill haste there

vagrant wing Jun 20, 2020, 12:50 AM

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I have 11.7 cd and it's a bit sketchy if skilled doesn't proc. Don't forget that there's 2 sec charge for the pulse + 1 or so sec for human reaction time

next bobcat Jun 20, 2020, 1:17 AM

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@vagrant wing not sure I understand, are you using a HW set? What is your pulse build?

vagrant wing Jun 20, 2020, 1:21 AM

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Nope. it's not HW
https://discordapp.com/channels/477210626742288384/578577872701095956/723670551876468867
read carefully ^^

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other pieces are china

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and the improve holster

next bobcat Jun 20, 2020, 1:22 AM

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Ok, to confirm this is for a pulse build on Razor?

vagrant wing Jun 20, 2020, 1:22 AM

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Yes

next bobcat Jun 20, 2020, 1:22 AM

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You open to feedback?

vagrant wing Jun 20, 2020, 1:22 AM

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Sure. Go ahead

next bobcat Jun 20, 2020, 1:23 AM

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Scratch that build.

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Go 4 piece Hardwired. All skill dmg

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Wyvern with skill dmg on chest

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Btsu gloves

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You dont need to worry about skill haste at all that way.

vagrant wing Jun 20, 2020, 1:25 AM

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This build was created specifically to utilize a BP & chest talent combined with BTSU. Sorry, but i can't do that

next bobcat Jun 20, 2020, 1:25 AM

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Your first pulse should kill all the drones. By the second pulse if skilled doesnt proc, just drop your restorer hive (second skill) and your pulse is back

vagrant wing Jun 20, 2020, 1:26 AM

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You don't have to continue, and no offence but i have slightly more exp then what you wrote. I created this build for a reason, 4 HW can't be integrated into it

next bobcat Jun 20, 2020, 1:27 AM

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All good didnt understand youre objective. If it's to beat razor it sounded far more difficult than it needs to be

vagrant wing Jun 20, 2020, 1:28 AM

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THe build is all about opportunistic and BTSU. If you'll find a way to combined that with HW, i'll gladly hear it

next bobcat Jun 20, 2020, 1:29 AM

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Gotcha. Didnt know the context dont always have scroll up time lol.

vagrant wing Jun 20, 2020, 1:29 AM

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No worries man... no offence taken

next bobcat Jun 20, 2020, 1:30 AM

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Lotsa folks strugglin with razor without BTSU stack figured thats what it was about

vagrant wing Jun 20, 2020, 1:31 AM

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No... it's created after the patch to utilze BTSU on a full yellow build since the build doesn't have dmg output as it is

next bobcat Jun 20, 2020, 1:32 AM

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Yeah got that now. Makes sense

tender hollow Jun 20, 2020, 1:32 AM

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@vagrant wing not sure I understand, are you using a HW set? What is your pulse build?
@next bobcat HW Mask 12 skill haste, HW Backpack 12% skill haste, Wyvern Chest 10 skill dam 20 repair skills overwatch, Hana gloves 12 skill haste 10 skill dam, Improvised Holster 10 skill dam 9.3 skill haste (and 11.1 skill haste mod), HW kneepads 12 skill haste, technician spec

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You don't have to continue, and no offence but i have slightly more exp then what you wrote. I created this build for a reason, 4 HW can't be integrated into it
@vagrant wing What are your Backpack and Chest talents? Just curious what the pros run

vagrant wing Jun 20, 2020, 1:37 AM

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In a perfect world i'll have overwatch on my chest (using skilled currently cause i havn't found one yet). Opportunistic on the BP

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The idea is - this is a support build with no dmg output, so in order to be useful (and do more then killing drones) you need to buff your team. Opportunistic is multiplicative BTW @tender hollow

tender hollow Jun 20, 2020, 1:39 AM

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^ so with overwatch and opportunistic its giving everyone on RZ, 12 +10 extra damage, so 22 x 8 = 176 extra damage

vagrant wing Jun 20, 2020, 1:40 AM

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No. it's more then that

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Overwatch is additive if i recall correctly

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Opp is multiplicative

tender hollow Jun 20, 2020, 1:41 AM

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^ its like 2 extra people in the raid helping out

vagrant wing Jun 20, 2020, 1:41 AM

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Havn't run the math. I'll have to trust you on that 🙂

tender hollow Jun 20, 2020, 1:42 AM

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something like that lol

silent whale Jun 20, 2020, 1:43 AM

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EST timezone, what’s the best time to get a raid set up?

ashen scaffold Jun 20, 2020, 1:50 AM

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There's none.

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It depends on the person.

silent whale Jun 20, 2020, 1:51 AM

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i gotcha

pine badge Jun 20, 2020, 4:16 AM

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Anyone else haveing issues with weasl boss

normal mirage Jun 20, 2020, 4:56 AM

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which part of that boss fight are you having problems with?