#division-universe

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spiral turtle
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Off topic I know, but I saw some peeps chatting about something FC5 related

untold crown
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Bliss wasnt the name of the lmb leader? why are u guys talking about the drug?

ashen jungle
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Charles Bliss was the leader of the LMB.
And yes it was called Bliss in FC5.

tepid ibex
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The LMB had an alliance with Eden's Gate. They promised to name a psychoactive drug after me if we distributed weapons to them.

lyric stream
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Sounds like a fair trade

cold bramble
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lol

cold bramble
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wait

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when you get killed by a black tusk sniper

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the quote says "if you're reading this, you left your head up for too long"

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kelso wrote that apprently

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isn't that a 4th wall break

spiral turtle
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potentially

steel radish
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Division agents revived from fatal injuries now canon ||/s||

cyan path
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good to know that my div 1 and 2 agents could canonically survive a shot to the head when another agent fiddles with their wristwatch near them

cold bramble
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xd

spare arrow
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"Aw hell, my teammate went down, im gonna check tinder"

wise current
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is the snitch location the same for all or is it random?

spare arrow
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Random.

static bay
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@wise current there are fixed locations where he spawns. He can't just spawn anywhere he wants. Check the pinned message on build advice, it contains a guide to where to check for him

wise current
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@wise current there are fixed locations where he spawns. He can't just spawn anywhere he wants. Check the pinned message on build advice, it contains a guide to where to check for him
@static bay That part i knew 🙂 the only thing i didnt know was if the location was the same for every one (Like in Destiny 2) or if the spawn was different for everyone. But know i know that the spawn is different is random for most players 🙂

static bay
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ah, I see

round sinew
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I have serious concerns about the Snitch and why we don't just kill him.

ashen jungle
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Because Cassie's gear is good.

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and he ain't snitching on our location.

round sinew
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Is Belfry this week?

spare obsidian
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I did get Snitch killed once by the hands of Black Tusk

solid breach
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What is a good strat for the summit 100 second room

round sinew
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Don't open the door

exotic heron
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lol

static bay
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@solid breach open the door and wait in the room for the Hunters to push. When they do, foam them so that they can't use an armour kit and burst them down.

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This way you'll be fighting the Hunters one by one. Bring DPS weapons.

solid breach
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I ended up doing it we used 3 dps and healer with a foam

static bay
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yeap that's about right

solid breach
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It seemed that the healer helped bc the foam lasted way longer and it helped us lock them into place

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So the dps had just enough to burn them down although the last guy glitched and took like 30 seconds to actually die idk if it’s a bug or something

real cipher
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Summit noob here - what's the deal with these yellow keys I keep finding ever odd floor?

static bay
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Well you need those keys to open crates that are found on every 3rd floor. Those crates have a chance to drop components for Ridgeway's Pride.

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Every 3rd floor, such as 63, 66 and 69 will have secret room with these crates that look kind of like the stash or the crates from the Raids.

real cipher
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ah, ok - figured it might be something like that, just confusing, that it doesn't say 'used a key' or something somewhere

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I've opened a few of the crates already and gotten one piece of the Ridgeway's Pride, just figured the keys might be for the rooms themselves, but they don't seem to be locked by anything besides the occasional yellow padlock

static bay
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Yeah and it doesn't help that if you don't know about the crates there's no indication that you're missing something

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Oh uh don't be too excited about getting all the pieces. once you get them all you still have to reach Floor 100, where you have to defeat the ||Hunters|| and complete the floor for a project.

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Only after completing this project will you get the exotic

real cipher
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figured as much - besides, with my luck with these kinds of missions / projects, I'll end up getting all the pieces somehow, but the mission won't finish - happened like that with the pistol in Washington - had all the pieces, just the blueprint never dropped ..

static bay
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Jesus, that's rough buddy

steel radish
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Every 3rd floor, such as 63, 66 and 69 will have secret room with these crates that look kind of like the stash or the crates from the Raids.
teeheehee funi number

static bay
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hehe 69 nice

real cipher
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hmm, I seem to be getting more keys than rooms with chests in them ...

ashen jungle
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There is a guaranteed chest once every 3 rooms, you should only be getting 1 key some point between the last chest and the next one.

real cipher
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I must have missed some then, though I feel like I'm trying every single door

ashen jungle
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It's often the case where you need to shoot a lock off and sometimes the chest is flat-out just next to the entrance to the following area.

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Working backwards once you have the key helps a lot.

real cipher
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yeah, tried that when I found my 2nd key with no chest in between, but couldn't find it

ashen jungle
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It's always there, always.

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It's possible that you had to break a yellow wall box or something.

real cipher
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yeah, well, no worries - probably not the only time I'll be climbing this building 😛

ashen jungle
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hah! Yeah definitely not after the upcoming changes.

round sinew
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What changes

spare arrow
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After Tu11.1, Every gearset will be separated into its own thing, instead of just "gearset" and the summit will let you change what the targeted loot is in the summit.

round sinew
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That's gonna be busted

static bay
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Fun fact: If you read the text of the Ridgeway's Pride project carefully, you've already got one from Capitol Building, and the entire project is just making a replica so that Kelso can give it back to you and still have one for her wall

steel radish
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Bruh

tepid ibex
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Fun fact: If you read the text of the Ridgeway's Pride project carefully, you've already got one from Capitol Building, and the entire project is just making a replica so that Kelso can give it back to you and still have one for her wall
@static bay

Fuck that bitch. I want that Ridgeway Vest that I rightfully deserve to have. I ain't grinding more just to get it again. Gonna have a talk with her when I get back to the white house 😤

ashen jungle
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Classy.

fathom creek
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Can someone explain me why was black tusk after keener? Was it Lau who sent them?

glad spruce
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Keener gave them Tchernenko as part of a deal, then he fucked them over by having Cleaners raid Coney Island

cold bramble
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Lol. Wonder how much bardon was raging since we destroyed ddp-52 razorback on Liberty island

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Maybe another $5 billion object destroyed

vast bolt
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we destroy 2 ddp 52 razorback in the entire game

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(if you count the raid one)

cold bramble
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But the raid wasnt meant to affect game

ashen jungle
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If I was him, I'd be more pissy about the Drones, Pentagon and then just in the open world.

cold bramble
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Another razorback on LI and buddy and lucy style dogs

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The razorbacks, buddy and lucy, hovercraft at tidal basin, and the invaded missions every week

ashen jungle
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Well the Hovercraft is still in one piece, since it's canon that it's there for the Manhunt too.

cyan path
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I don't even know why the biggest piece of equipment Black Tusk has is just a giant drone spammer

ashen jungle
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In all fairness, drones are really quite effective against every other faction than Agents.

cyan path
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together with an unmanned quad copter with missiles and a minigun

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True, if a single drone of an agent can be deadly effective, imagine hundreds of them petter

cold bramble
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Theres 2 types of drones on razorback, attack drones and spy drones

ashen jungle
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And the big-ass drones that Tusk have can fire missiles too. Tusk attach some kinda chemical payload to that thing and it could probably sweep most of DC clean in a week tops.

cyan path
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And then Agents just sweep in and shoot the gas out of the city because Manny can't go to the Toy Store with all the chemical shit around the streets

cold bramble
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Those murader drones are really though even woth DTH, DTOOC

ashen jungle
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Considering how few people seem to have gas masks in DC, we can sweep the gas all we like, but after that we'd have to start loading up trucks to move the bodies out.

cyan path
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Blame the Hyenas for the lack of gas masks

ashen jungle
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I like to think that red bars all use flak-vests that have already been shot, making them pointless.

cyan path
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or they just don't have armor plates in place

ashen jungle
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"of course im safe, ive got a vest on"

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"ow"

cyan path
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I can guarantee you a lot of people don't know that a bulletproof vest isn't actually bulletproof until you place those plates in the inside of the vest

ashen jungle
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Even fewer people seem to understand how they work once they've been shot.

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to be fair though, that makes sense. Most people have no reason to know that.

cyan path
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Yeah there's a reason big guys with lots of armor and grenade launchers don't exist... yet

ashen jungle
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True Sons Heavy.

cyan path
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yep

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I was referring to real life tho

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armor that is tough enough to make you not feel the shots as they hit you is way too heavy to be wore by a human

ashen jungle
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also pointless

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the goal is to avoid getting shot in the first place, not to be able to tank bullets.
"if someone invents a bigger shield, someone else will invent a sharper sword"

cyan path
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the sharper sword can just be an RPG

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"Hey joe you see that guy decked in armor?"
"Yeah"
"Get the RPG out, we ain't wasting bullets on that guy"

ashen jungle
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it's a saying about progress, not meant to be taken literally.

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e.g. the invention of tanks: people remembering that grenades exist and can easily go under them.

cyan path
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or flanking a tank, getting on top of it and dropping a grenade down the hatch

ashen jungle
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true, there's many options. But that's kinda the nature of weapons. Tusk using the big-ass drones, we realised pretty quick that the missiles can be negated along with its gun only being able to fire at a certain angle

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now if only they were smart enough to put armour over the limbs of the dogs.

cyan path
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Eh no, I appreciate that mistake they made actually

ashen jungle
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my dumb face always forgets about that weak point and just defaults to shooting the box on top.

cold bramble
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same

west patio
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Well Bardon must really hate me

west patio
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And if they armoured the dogs legs they would lose alot of mobility and speed

ruby cave
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^

lapis seal
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Question: how the hell did Hornet survive being TD1's resident loot pinata?

ashen jungle
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Same way Lau was injured for as long as she was.

cyan path
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Question: how the hell did Hornet survive being TD1's resident loot pinata?
@lapis seal Technically, in the lore, the agent or squad of agents just shot up his armor and didn't even bother to check if he was alive or not

open crest
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Sounds like pretty terrible agents, should be fired.

lapis seal
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Sounds pretty sloppy

cyan path
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so he probably was knocked out by blunt force trauma from the bullets hitting his chest

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Yeah, my agent would shoot him in the head twice

ashen jungle
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That's why I double-tap every Manhunt Target i take out. I wanna make sure.

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Last thing I wanna do is have to fight Jupiter again.

gray hinge
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Aw man

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Theu ended up not letting us choose our targetted loot in summit

low mural
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Um

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What?

spare arrow
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You can 100% change your targeted loot in summit

noble socket
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@gray hinge you can

ashen jungle
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@gray hinge When you're in Summit, open the Map and read the buttons along the base of your screen, on PC Targeted Loot selection is "R".

sleek plover
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Hey guys, death to the LMB.

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Or rather whats left of it

cold bramble
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frick kelso

halcyon shore
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lol

cold bramble
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she dosen't do shit

halcyon shore
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i just think some of her "excuses" are just that excuses

cold bramble
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who gets all the control points

halcyon shore
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like i called when i first did liberty island that shes gonna go rogue

cold bramble
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lol

vast bolt
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fook kelso?

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fook laser sights, mate

cold bramble
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xd

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fookin laser sights

halcyon shore
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watch broke, ya right, these watches are durable stuff

cold bramble
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ikr

halcyon shore
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plus i think she was still wearing it when you saw her

vast bolt
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in div1 they weren't that squishy

cold bramble
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she was yeah

vast bolt
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the hunters had to cut off agents' hands in order to get em

halcyon shore
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and if issac said, agent down, who picked her up. watch broken wouldnt bring an "agent down"

cold bramble
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i think she saw the ambush

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then faked a story

vast bolt
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maybe

cold bramble
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plus

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she should fucking tell us before she barges in

halcyon shore
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even during when you rescued the president and the president was talking to you, she seemed off put

cold bramble
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xd

halcyon shore
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i have a feeling she was in on the president plot too

cold bramble
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maybe

vast bolt
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kelso is definetely on some twisted stuff

cold bramble
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def

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she has some serious hate for the hyenas

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gw hotel remember

vast bolt
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yeah

halcyon shore
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she and the pres were prob planning something before he got kidnapped by the hyenas

cold bramble
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maybe

halcyon shore
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hense being pissed at the hyenas more

cold bramble
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who brought down the presidents plane tho

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i thought it may have been bt

vast bolt
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good question

halcyon shore
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i though it was BT

cold bramble
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same

halcyon shore
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might have to relisten to the coms

cold bramble
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but with their new agenda

vast bolt
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i think that as well, but why?

cold bramble
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yeah lol

vast bolt
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why would the black tusk bring down the president's plane

halcyon shore
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to hide thier agenda with him

cold bramble
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true

halcyon shore
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with the BSA

vast bolt
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hm, plausible

halcyon shore
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it was possible they wanted to make it look liek he died so they can have him work with them

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but the hyena's got to him first

vast bolt
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i see

sage tusk
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idk where to ask else than here so:
we completed the raid and i got everything for the first FB project.
also i got everything for the second because you can craft all the gear.
the thing is i can not donate the badger tuff gloves

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is that a bug or does it not take the crafted badger tuff gloves? which would be weird because it took the BP, the CP, the holster, kneepads and mask i crafted

vast bolt
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probably a bug

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just wait till tomorrow

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there's a maintenance scheduled for tomorrow

sage tusk
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yes but afaik there is nothing about that in the patchnotes right?

vast bolt
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indeed

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but they'll probably realize something's off about it and fix it

sage tusk
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so quick farming summit for badger... apperantly its the only crafted that does not work.

cold bramble
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hey

round sinew
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Hey

open crest
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you you, I don't like your girlfriend

spiral turtle
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🎶 No Way, No Way, I Think You Need A New One 🎶

ashen jungle
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Remember when we thought white girl rapping couldn't get worse than that? Good times.

sleek plover
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Hey guys

spare arrow
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Hey.

green flower
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idk where to ask else than here so:
we completed the raid and i got everything for the first FB project.
also i got everything for the second because you can craft all the gear.
the thing is i can not donate the badger tuff gloves
@sage tusk Have you tried logging out and back in again ? Also not everyone experiences the same type of bug so it could just be a server side issue. But just like @vast bolt stated, wait for the maintenance to roll out and hopefully (just hopefully, because Ubisoft) they fix the issue.

vast bolt
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it's the only alternative

sage tusk
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@green flower its all done. the gloves are the only ones that are not accepted when crafted... i did 3 floors on summit until i got gloves and donated them. all good thank you

regal forge
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Do BSAV samples do anything ?

vast bolt
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no idea

ashen jungle
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@regal forge yes, but they're super not worth farming for as the loot it gives (IIRC) was kinda pants.

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it's a little complex, just google "BSAV samples division 2".

regal forge
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The only thing I find, it's the animal statue things right ? Just a loot room without interest

ashen jungle
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from what I remember, yes.

jolly wharf
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I think the NYC expansion is a old dark zone. Or its just me imagining it.

ashen jungle
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It's just you. WONY is a different area.

steel radish
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Well

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It is an old DZ

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Lore wise

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But not an actual reused DZ if that’s what you meant

drifting lotus
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I think the NYC expansion is a old dark zone. Or its just me imagining it.
@jolly wharf Imagination, the entrance to the NYC DZ is actually the gate CP at the north side of the Div 2 NYC map.

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But we can't go in there 😛

lyric yoke
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hunter music on the right side of CP Flooded Levee

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got a shake effect screen on radar when i was near it, and it was a hunter up that disapears

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notice i have all the masks

ashen jungle
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@lyric yoke that's a common thing to happen, doesn't mean anything AFAIK, just a bit of world-building.

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I had one do the same thing for me over at the entrance to DZ West and one near Monument CP too.

round sinew
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Yeah. They pop up as phantoms

spiral turtle
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Officially they are called Stalkers I believe

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Still part of the hunters but a “sub-group” I guess

half apex
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I think this has been asked before (sorry), but does anyone know who are these all black people with trash can lids as shields and bow and arrows as weapons? I use to see them when strolling in dc or ny. they scavenge usually for resources or in just random bags across the street or anywhere

spare arrow
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They are the scavengers. We dont really know much about them, but we know they live in the sewers.

half apex
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hmmmm ok ok. yeah usually i see them in the sewers or near manholes

spiral turtle
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They are Scavengers/Ambushers. However, they are different from the Underground faction.

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@half apex

half apex
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hmm ok ok. i was really curious who they are 😅 thats why i asked. thought they are outcasts or whoever. thanks anyway for the responses 😊

static bay
half apex
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@static bay hey thanks for this!

static bay
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no problem!

jolly wharf
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Since the launch of TU11 Concealed Agenda, the hunters are now involved to the story and I think the memento exotic backpack is related to it. Maybe it belongs to a fallen hunter.

ashen jungle
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Not a surprise, considering that Hunters are probably mostly SHD agents turned.

jolly wharf
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Someone said that the hunters are a Russian SHD agents, but its just a theory.

spare arrow
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"Cyka blyat, agent!"

ashen jungle
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maybe they're a Russian version of SHD, but they can't be SHD exactly.

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Russia don't have a Homeland Security.

spare arrow
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Homeland Cykuraty

ashen jungle
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It's just Putin with 50 watches on him.

jolly wharf
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The design of the memento backpack speaks itself. Especially those shd watches and shd beacon on the right side of the bag. Clearly not from the outcast.. just because of hazard logo.

ashen jungle
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If it's got watches on it, it's hunter related. Take the Hunter cosmetic shirt and backpack trophy. Collecting SHD watches is kinda their thing.

jolly wharf
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I hope they make a exotic hunter vest not the apparel shirt.

ashen jungle
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I just want more gloves.

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something DPS related would be nice

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maybe like an exotic version of the skull MC's.... okay I'll stop saying that now.

spare arrow
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I was looking at it, and it almost seems that the watches on Memento are more red than the ones on the covert hunter stuff. Led me to believe someone is killing the Hunters....

ashen jungle
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I don't think Hunters care if they kill Rogues or SHD agents tbh.

jolly wharf
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Exotic hunter vest
With a talent of auto disrupt

Disrupts enemy every 4mins within 10-15m radius

spare arrow
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Probably not, but hey, i can conspire.

ashen jungle
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It's an interesting thought, but as far as story goes why do we care? Oh no, someone's killing off Rogues!
Anyway, who wants lunch?

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I'm more curious why Ridgeway is a thing again. He died ages back.

spare arrow
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Wanted a cool shirt with some cool dogtags.

jolly wharf
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For me ridgeways pride is useless...i dont know maybe because of the talents...

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Also the backfire exotic is useless when you dont have ninjabike

spare arrow
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Its a great exotic. Regen tank is very nice. Backfire is hella damage with Hazpro. Idk what you are talkin bout

jolly wharf
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Performing cover to cover or vaulting is kinda awkward.

ashen jungle
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I'm more interested in the lore behind them tbh. Who the hell made the Backfire?

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i dont just wanna say "DARPA design", but....

jolly wharf
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The only exotic are useful to me this season release is the memento

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Perfect for dps who wants to add armor

spare arrow
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Hazpro makes Backfire's bleed gone at whatever percent.

jade pendant
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I think it's 96, @spare arrow

spare arrow
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I believe so, but i wasnt sure so i was just gonna wait for someone who actually knew lol

jade pendant
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Yeah, all the build vids say 96, and I tried it and had 97 bleed res, and no bleed on reload

static bay
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Ooh damn

jade pendant
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Another thing people try is pairing with Ninjabike and that works too

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It's a bit harder to pull off that way though

cold bramble
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||The sacred text!||

daring pendant
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white tusk= lmb?

low mural
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Some

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Like the rusher iirc

daring pendant
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iirc?

round sinew
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"If I remember correctly"

daring pendant
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ah

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I only put it together by their white outfits and LMB was white outfits, idk if it was a long shot or not

round sinew
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It kind of is

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White Tusk isn't really canon currently.

ashen jungle
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Plus the name kinda sounds like an indie music group.

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"hey, we're white tusk, go to our spotify"

sleek plover
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I reallt hope we can fight against a particular BTSU squad which they are explicitedly stated as ex LMB. They could have separate voicelines and etc.
I really want to see them suffer bt my hand.

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Freedom IS a right, Liberty IS a given. To deny this is blasphemy.
Blasphemers must be slain.

spare arrow
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I believe the... rushers, of BTSU, are specifically ex-LMB.

ashen jungle
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Lol, they use the LMB losers as canon-fodder.

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Hah!

sleek plover
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Maybe I should start division 1

ashen jungle
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You should, it's a damn good game.

sleek plover
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If that means I would see LMB suffer. I started the game itself because I hate then

ashen jungle
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Very "caveman Div2"

sleek plover
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I read the wiki and i decided I hate LMB so. much

spare arrow
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Believe there was another unit in BTSU's fodder that is specifically ex-LMB

sleek plover
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so I started div 2 because division 1 does not have LMB wiped out completely

spare arrow
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Maybe the medic? Cant remember for the life of me.

ashen jungle
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Okay american, just chill out for a bit.

sleek plover
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And bliss died to clean a death, I would have sacrificed him aztec style as an offering to our lady liberty.

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Freedom is the only sacred truth in this world

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ONLY FREEDOM, NOT ELSE.

spiral turtle
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Bro?

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I’m also American but uh, yikes

steel light
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Hey guys quick question does anybody encounter a hunter while doing the wraith manhunt bounty?

spare arrow
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Everyone did! similar to the first bounty

scenic compass
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Holy shit, you too?

spiral turtle
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Yep they are a big part of this season (hunter content/story purposes finally)

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From what I know they are going to have a large role in the final mission

median garden
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Ok so how does the black tusks end

spiral turtle
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We don't know quite yet

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most likely we will find out more when we do the mission for bardon

median garden
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Oh ok

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Ty

carmine vortex
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ok so what the heck happened at hell's kitchen? was it something that happened in between division 1 and 2? do we find out? because in division 1 paul rhodes was happy to see the division come div 2 he's like screw the division

ashen jungle
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Get the comms to find out the story, basically it all went to shit.

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And the BoO was destroyed. A lot of the NPC's there died.

carmine vortex
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ok so its something we do find out nice

ashen jungle
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Yeah this game is good for explaining little background lore bits.

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The comms menu is one of the funnest things about Div1 and 2.

mint citrus
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I liked the drone images from the first game

round sinew
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Belfry comes out Tuesday, yeah?

sleek plover
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A true sons sympathizer, going to be a worthy kill.

ashen jungle
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@round sinew yep the next target is.

round sinew
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Nice.

glad spruce
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Dusk

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Belfry is the guy working with the Outcasts

mint citrus
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Oh BOY

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Dusk gon' be GOOD

sleek plover
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Ill make sure he suffers

round sinew
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Whatever one, doesn't matter, I just want to get to Schaeffer.

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You guys think Faye Lau will still be Season 4's big bad?

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We're still supposed to be getting a Season 4 Manhunt, and the spooky game mode at Kenly, right?

vast bolt
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You guys think Faye Lau will still be Season 4's big bad?
please no

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We're still supposed to be getting a Season 4 Manhunt, and the spooky game mode at Kenly, right?
i'm curious about the spooky game mode

mint citrus
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Faye gon' spook

glad spruce
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They already revealed Faye is Season 4's big bad a while ago

vast bolt
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They already revealed Faye is Season 4's big bad a while ago
where?

glad spruce
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In Ubi Forward last month

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When they showed the road map for the seasonal content from September to December

mint citrus
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Unfortunate

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But Rhodes was right about her

narrow aurora
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so something that confused me is why does the BTSU attack the settlement that sanders is at

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the very start of the game.

ashen jungle
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AFAIK nothing's known for certain, but it's likely that there was something there that they wanted.

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Maybe Cruz or Sanders had some intel that they wanted, who knows!

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I'm also not sure that it was actually BTSU and was just Black Tusk in general.

narrow aurora
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so not barden's guys

ashen jungle
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We have no way of knowing for now, I'm happy to keep it as a surprise.

narrow aurora
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barden in a nutshell "WHY ARE YOU LOSING?"
the rest of the Black tusk "BECAUSE WE'RE NOT THE PROTAGONIST"

ashen jungle
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Technically speaking, the BTSU are actually more like a group within the Black Tusk, rather than just being more of them.
Basically they're the special forces.

west patio
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Yeah

round sinew
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So y'all think Season 4 will be it? After we finish Faye Lau, no more Division 2 content?

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I kinda hope so.

sleek plover
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I hope they pull an Xcom transport in div 3 so we can travel between multiple states.

ashen jungle
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Div2 is live-service, they can keep adding content for years and I hope they do.

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There wasn't enough of a leap between Div1 and 2 as-is, we need way more for Div3.

cold bramble
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there are plans for division 3?

ashen jungle
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Literally never heard any so far, so I'd bet they're just rumours and hearsay.

cold bramble
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well i hope they just focus on division 2 and just create expansions rather than making another sequel

ashen jungle
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same mate, same

cold bramble
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you know a little dlc wont hurt

ashen jungle
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I want some more value out of this one first. WONY was a little short.

cold bramble
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true but it did feel like the division 1 with the former faction present there haha

ashen jungle
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well it was a nostalgia trip on purpose

cold bramble
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i just wonder what will they plan for the game's future no?

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the manhunt in every season is nice

ashen jungle
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We kinda had it spoiled what the next major story point is, I personally think its dumb but it is what it is.

cold bramble
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they might just do random manhunt once the story is finished?

ashen jungle
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the manhunts are gonna lead into a story point after it, massive know how to keep players coming back and they know they need big stuff every now and then

vast bolt
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does anybody even care about manhunts?

ashen jungle
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i like the lore

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wouldnt have 100%'d div1's collectibles if i hated it

vast bolt
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yeah, but idk

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this manhunt thing just seems like something's missing on it

cold bramble
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yeha the story is nice, cant wait to kill fay lau, damn traitor

vast bolt
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i think they should make actual missions for bardon and faye

cold bramble
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oh an i hope they add rouge faction be playable to players with different main mission than the usual SHD main missions

vast bolt
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ik it's hard and takes time

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but would 10/10 be better than seasonal manhunts

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oh an i hope they add rouge faction be playable to players with different main mission than the usual SHD main missions
forget about it, probably won't happen

cold bramble
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forget about it, probably won't happen
@vast bolt nuuuuu

vast bolt
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they'll never let you play as rogue

cold bramble
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well except in dz

vast bolt
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except in the dz, never gonna happen

cold bramble
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well it dosent hurt to dream, but beggars cant be choosers

vast bolt
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dream doesn't hurt, but expectations do

cold bramble
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dream doesn't hurt, but expectations do
@vast bolt that too

spare arrow
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Season 1 was seeing the effects of the Rogue network, and seemingly us deciding that keeping rogue cells alive is a bad thing. Season 2 is the effects of Keener's virus, and dealing with a (seemingly) stronger rogue cell, centered around Hornet. And season 3 sees us turn out "big guns" on Schaeffer, and attempting to neuter the BTSU's presence in NY and DC.

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(the story points behind the season's manhunts, is what this writeup is. I paused an episode of anime to write this, let the record show.)

cold bramble
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oh nice nice

ashen jungle
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By Season 10 we'll be using the power of friendship to save the world.

vast bolt
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pls no

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let me nuke people with mortars

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or be batman and make em bleed

ashen jungle
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"WHERE'S THE TRIGGER"

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and people complained about Bane's voice.

vast bolt
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lmao

spiral turtle
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I just want resistance 2.0

round sinew
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Yo bro what the fuck

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I fast traveled to Jefferson Plaza for the manhunt, looked away to go get a drink. Came back to me being dead from a fucking Marauder

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When did those become open-world spawns. Who the fuck allowed that.

ashen jungle
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The drones? Since around WONY-ish.

round sinew
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I've never seen one.

ashen jungle
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They're marked on the map with a circular icon.

spare arrow
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Looks like a rotary blade.

round sinew
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Never noticed before lmao.

spiral turtle
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Fuck marauders, all my homies hate marauders

round sinew
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The Hunter seemed a little more aggressive for Dusk's bounty than for the others, too

round sinew
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We did get some more lore, though.

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The first audio logs are basic "introducing the Rogue agent" and don't show much other than Dusk gives a shit about the True Sons under her command, not that that matters, because she's still a traitor for no good reason so she gets what she deserves.

#

The last audio log seems to indicate that Schaeffer is questioning the price of maintaining these rogue agents to Faye.

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Seems that Faye Lau came to Schaeffer with a plan for Black Tusk to fund rogue agents, but with the audio logs we have so far, it seems Schaeffer's boss didn't really take to this plan, and Schaeffer himself was questioning whether it was practical. This has likely led to what we all see as Schaffer bringing in Hunters to clean them up and tie off loose ends.

sleek plover
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Freedom IS a right.
Liberty IS a given.
To deny this is blasphemy.

ashen jungle
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Weebiness IS a right
Anime IS a given
To wash is blasphemy

sleek plover
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lol

ashen jungle
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I've gotta know, why do you keep posting that propaganda?

sleek plover
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Mostly because I hate LMB

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really, with passion

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And I hoped I could kill whats left of them in div 2, but all i got was 2 new btsu classes

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srsly me hating LMB is what made me buy the game

ashen jungle
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Why do you hate them that much?

sleek plover
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it just reminds me of some people i know who disgusts me and says the same thing as them. And I have absolutely no idea why the hell any player would think of them as cool or even agreeable.

ashen jungle
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The thing is....not sure how to put this exactly.
You posting that makes it look like you're one of those nutters.

sleek plover
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oh...

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Yeah i guess that made sense, I think I got extra carried away after Ive seen a sympathizer with a handsome jack portrait that Charles Bliss roleplayer joined the chat few days ago.

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really srry for that

ashen jungle
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Hey I don't care, just wanted to let you know how someone might see something like that. It's hard to get context through text chat, ya know.

sleek plover
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but tbh I really, really want an opportunity to humiliate whats left of them in game in div.
Even redone Hornet manhunt just for that.

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hey thx

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I mean really, those chargers and supporters dont even have unique dialogue implying they are ex lmb

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I would. be so happy if Ubi/Massive would add a classified assignment featuring Elite BTSU unit comprised of 100% Ex LMB and their idle dialogue reflects that.

green plume
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so do we know who the hunters are affiliated with bc i did the summit yesterday and was wondering who they're with and what they're doing there

vast bolt
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good question

green plume
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to which one?

vast bolt
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both

spare arrow
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hunters are affiliated with... the hunters

vast bolt
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yeah, but y do they hunt agents? i think they aren't just random anarchists, i think there's something else

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and else, outcast rushers are just TD2's creepers, change my mind

green plume
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and why they in the summit?

vast bolt
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i think it's somewhat of the hunter stronghold

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maybe i'm mistaken, but what if not?

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and as the hunters aren't too much of a faction, they gathered everyone they could to protect the stronghold

green plume
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so are they against of just allies with the other factions?

vast bolt
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hmmm

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dunno

green plume
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i hope they go into depth on the hunters in the future dlc's/updters (assuming there will be more dlc)

vast bolt
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so do i, we have zero intel on them since div1

green plume
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i hope they give us a chance to work with them

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that would be sick

vast bolt
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don't think that's gonna happen

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since hunters hate the division

green plume
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just an idea ¯_(ツ)_/¯

lethal cedar
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well here a theory regarding the hunters and the summit, see that giant satellite that crashed into the roof top ? Maybe it is some sort of a Rogue Anna network stuff, so the rogues entered the building with their gangs etcs, ,and since it is valuable info, the hunters have been dispatched by the Solokov family to steal the intel as well, but since they are the sneaky type, they somehow managed to avoid all the fireteams and we somehow managed to catch up with them at floor 100

spare arrow
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Better theory than that dude who was talkin bout "Hunters are aliens because there's a satellite on top of the summit"

ashen jungle
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Gotta love nutters who think anything from space (including stuff that literally has english writing on it) is Alien.

spare arrow
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Always fun to see the ramblings, atleast.

green plume
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Well i saw a theory that they're affiliated with the black tusk since some of the new hunters have tattoos atching the ones found on the balck tusk. This may be reused models or coincidental but theres a possibility

ashen jungle
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Until we see actual proof of any of this, we can safely assume that everything here is just a theory.

green plume
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With hunters most of it is theory since thers not really much to go off of

cold bramble
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To add to the BT/hunter speculation; BT are the only NPCs I've seen the hunters leave alone. When I did all the hunters, they would attack any NPC in the area if they were near (The Snitch actually killed Demon for me lol). However, when BT was near, they would leave them alone and both would attack me.

This could be the models being identical so they view each other the same AI wise or it could be that they work with each other.

green plume
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at this point the only thing to 'confirm' it is the identical tattoo but apart from that pretty much nada ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

cyan path
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can we all agree that Jared Nash is a badass

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mans just casually shuffling a car deck in the middle of post apocalyptic DC not giving a fuck about anything

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while also wearing sandals

narrow aurora
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legit gives off the drifter vibes

ashen jungle
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That explains why I want to punt him out of an airlock.

cold bramble
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can someone tell me if you are supposed to be able to kill the hunters

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because they always run off before i can get too much damage out

ashen jungle
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Like the ones that you specifically hunt to get their masks and keys? Yes.
The other ones? No.

cold bramble
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the random encounter ones

ashen jungle
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yeah not really. They're kinda just watching you, they dont even attack.

cold bramble
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uh

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they very much do attack me

spare arrow
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Wait, rogue agents?

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Or the ones that pop up during the manhunt bounties

cold bramble
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manhunt bounties

spare arrow
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Yeah, they will attack you, but you can kill them. Just keep your distance and disengage for a moment as the hunters try to attack the enemies from the bounty.

lyric yoke
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You can kill him with some luck, but it will not drop any loot

eager lava
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Anyone know what mask that is and how to get it? Looks like a golden version of adamant mask

half apex
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it looks like season level 100 reward but you need the season 3 pass

eager lava
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Oh i have that premium pass

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Im 78 rn so just gotta keep grinding i guess

half apex
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yeah, you can do it

eager lava
grim crest
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was it just me or was keener's fight super easy? Most of my gear was level 30 still but I was in a duo with a friend, also with mostly level 30 gear

vast bolt
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you were duo.

grim crest
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what phase do people have trouble with?

vast bolt
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keener's fight and rogue skills room

grim crest
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eh yeah I guess you could get overwhelmed with only one gun

jolly wharf
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What if the hunters are basically just rogue agents became elite? 🤔

vast bolt
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maybe

green plume
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What if the hunters are basically just rogue agents became elite? 🤔
@jolly wharf possibly. might be a special unit of the black tusk. might be russian operatives. maybe aliens. who knows?

vast bolt
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r u s s i a n s

drifting inlet
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Its always gotta be them R u s s i a n s cause they do alot of those kind of crap

scenic compass
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Kay, real shit, met the hunter today in dusk's bounty, came out the door with an entire wave of true sons, literally fucking EXECUTED one of them, mask looked like a raven shaped skeleton motif.

steel light
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True

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True

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Went with him during the bounty

silent geyser
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Kay, real shit, met the hunter today in dusk's bounty, came out the door with an entire wave of true sons, literally fucking EXECUTED one of them, mask looked like a raven shaped skeleton motif.
@scenic compass is that a new hunter mask?

scenic compass
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@scenic compass is that a new hunter mask?
@silent geyser cant kill him, no mask, appears during wraith and dusk bounty tho.

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Hunter always dissapears after like, 60 seconds or after you down 2 bars of armor

round sinew
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We'll be getting hunter lore in 3 weeks, so be happy.

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And then one more manhunt for Faye and the game's over.

ashen jungle
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Absolutely, and not just the game, but Ubisoft too. It's a big secret.

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They're selling out to EA.

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Gonna be called EAbisoft.

round sinew
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Good

celest canyon
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Is the season with Faye really the last season?

ashen jungle
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Lol no of course not. We've had no hints about a Division 3 at all, and it seems to be doing quite well overall.

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It's just the end to that particular branch of the story.

celest canyon
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Thank god, I want this game to last for another year at least before we get a 3

ashen jungle
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Live-service stuff seems to be lasting longer these days, I would expect that yeah. Especially with all the delays that are happening right now.

cyan path
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God I'd hate it if live-service becomes the standard for the industry

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it can be good if done right but damn it would be horrible if every game was a live-service

ashen jungle
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Well lucky for you it's not even a particularly popular sub-genre, after a few of them failed. If Outriders does then I'd say it's gonna be gone for a while.

celest canyon
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Itd be nice for the next division to be live service though, I kinda like the seasons and updates, it gives the game a little bit more longevity than just beating the story and leaving it

round sinew
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I hope season 4 is the last

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They can't keep making content and expect us to want to buy the other 6 Ubisoft games coming out in the next year.

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Ubisoft needs to cool it with live service. So does the Call of Duty trifecta

cyan path
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Well I don't know about you but the only Ubisoft games I know are live service are the two Division games, Far Cry New Dawn I believe it had something? I don't know.

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and Ghost Recon Wildlands

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and Breakpoint of course

round sinew
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Siege.

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Assassins Creed

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Watchdogs

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The Crew

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Probably Far Cry 6 but that's not confirmed yet.

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Ubisoft operates almost entirely on GaaS.

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The downside is when they have 3-4 concurrent games doing it.

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They tied up and abandoned Breakpoint because Valhalla and Legion are coming out. Since Siege isn't expected to be dropped anytime soon, I expect Division 2 to stop getting updates after season 4.

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Just in time for Far Cry 6.

spiral turtle
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Just give me a wave survival mode in div 2 pls

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Granted I’m not playing any other game except watch dogs legion for the foreseeable future

celest canyon
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I got it with Uplay+ and yeah, it is pretty gud

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But I've spent way too much time in div2 to let it end div2shrug

green plume
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It's just the end to that particular branch of the story.
@ashen jungle hunter story hunter story :D

ashen jungle
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uh okay?

spare arrow
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Hunter story hunter story

green plume
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I eant the next branch of the story to be about the hunters

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Want*

cold bramble
#

And then one more manhunt for Faye and the game's over.
@round sinew game over? more like a path way to division 3 hahaha

vast bolt
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hunter story hunter story 😄

green plume
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And then one more manhunt for Faye and the game's over.
@round sinew game just ends. You kill faye and then game just resets.

round sinew
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Just give me a wave survival mode in div 2 pls
@spiral turtle
That'll might be the spooky mode in season 4.

spiral turtle
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👀

waxen arrow
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wasn't it called operation nightmare or something like that

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hopefully it will live up to it

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operation shit-my-pants?

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the game is rated M

cyan path
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And the parents skip them ESRB ratings like idk, something

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Because if they actually paid attention I'm certain there wouldn't be so many kids playing GTA Online

ashen jungle
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this really isnt spoiler talk, should probs be moved to off-topic.

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I'll even wipe my stuff.

round sinew
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Operation Nightmare is just reusing Kenly.

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So. It's likely that it'll be the last update we get

halcyon iron
#

I find that unlikely

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Massive is a completely different studio

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Their only projects that are common knowledge is div and the avatar game that's coming

round sinew
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They're still an Ubi studio

waxen arrow
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considering they made the last division last 2 years, it could possibly be the last update

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however I doubt it considering that div 2 still needs work

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and they can still add more content

hollow shoal
#

Gordon died from his own virus?
Thats lame.m but i guess expected

mint citrus
#

I figure that Div 3 may be something we see in the future

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But

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Who knows?

jade pendant
#

Well, there are still things to resolve, even after we take out Schaefer and Lau. Such..who is Schaefer's boss? Where is the President hiding? Is Amherst really dead? So many questions and not enough answers.

ashen jungle
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Schaeffers boss is whoever runs Black Tusk, he just runs the spec-ops wing of 'Tusk.

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Amherst is really dead yes, we saw his body in div1.

jade pendant
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Did we? Been awhile so didn't remember. Was it in his apartment?

ashen jungle
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I'd imagine the President is wherever the boss of Black Tusk is hiding.

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Yeah the apartment directly opposite from the gate to Camp Clinton, after we finished the campaign there was a mission where Keener left us an echo. Amherst was there.

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It's heavily implied that they were there the entire time, so we could've found his research the moment we walked out of the first gate in the mainland of NYC.

jade pendant
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Ahhh....

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That's rather annoying, tbh. Haha

ashen jungle
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lol ikr?

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in that apartment is where Keener confirms that he's got what's basically a suitcase full of new viruses to use and sell.

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I assume that it includes Eclipse, but not 100% sure.

jade pendant
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Right....remembering now. only been like 18 months since I stopped playing division for division 2, but those echos were pretty epic, so surprised I don't remember them

ashen jungle
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I recently replayed the game so I remember it fairly well.

jade pendant
#

I should re-install and go play some survival mode. Miss that mode so much

spare arrow
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During WoNY we see keener and dragov talking about how the "mixture" wasnt right, so that may lead to one of keener's rogue cells using a new virus.

cold bramble
#

eclipse 2 electric bugaloo

spare arrow
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But the mixture thing was seemingly about eclipse's dispersal method so, idk

cold bramble
#

where do we think division 3 is going to take place

jade pendant
#

Gotta wonder how many more he has....I don't think Schaefer and Lau were working with Keener, so were Jupiter and Hornet his only other groups of rogues?

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Boston!

spare arrow
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Def not. Lau says in the cutscene after that there are WAY more or smthn like that

ashen jungle
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Div3? Another american city, but we're kinda running low on the ones that are super well known outside of the US.

spare arrow
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Minnesota. Minneapolis.

ashen jungle
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its gotta be a city thats instantly recognisable and has some bearing on the plot.

cold bramble
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san francisco

spare arrow
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Huge tourist center, Massive mall, giant downtown sprawling w/ commercial shops.

cold bramble
#

los angeles

ashen jungle
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LA could work, its the most likely

cold bramble
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yeah

ashen jungle
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is well known, dense, but the issue is what bearing on the plot does it have?

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NYC cause it started there, DC cause its about continuation of government.

cold bramble
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yeah i guess

#

but is there really a city that satisfies those needs

ashen jungle
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honestly? likely just gonna by NYC again but another area.

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maybe they'll re-do div1's map instead.

cold bramble
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that would be a let down

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a very big let down

jade pendant
#

Chicago?

cold bramble
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that may work

spare arrow
#

Chicago may be a good bet, too.

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Minneapolis is kinda a stretch, but i can still hope.

cold bramble
#

i'm guessing you have some history there

jade pendant
#

Philly wouldn't be a bad choice, either

spare arrow
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I used to work at the MoA, so i kinda wanna see what it'd look like dilapidated.

ashen jungle
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Chicago actually is a good idea, it's not used anywhere near enough.

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The real question is though: what makes the game set there?

jade pendant
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That IS the question

ashen jungle
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i hope its not just more Keener.

spare arrow
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somethin somethin watch_dogs tie-in

jade pendant
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lol

ashen jungle
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you're thinking too small, Chicage is where Gotham is based off.

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We get to play as Batman, confirmed.

spare arrow
#

chicage

ashen jungle
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i aint editing it twice

spare arrow
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the agent: "IM BATMAN"
random enemy: "what in the actual fuck."

jade pendant
#

What if Chicago is mostly intact, or at least more so than other cities? What if they have a working government and infrastructure and you have to protect it from invasion and/or sabotage from an outside group or groups?

ashen jungle
#

would that really work for a live-service game?

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tbh what I want is a more state of decay kinda style, where we get to upgrade our base how we want, not just a nebulous "it gets less bad"

jade pendant
#

Possibly. I am sure there are logistics to work around

#

Yeah, that would be awesome

#

I keep telling my friends I want them to add a way for us to fix The Castle settlement in Div 2 and let us customize it

ashen jungle
#

That would be good actually, have it as ours.

jade pendant
#

Exactly

ashen jungle
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Be able to put up faction-specific decorations even, maybe kinda run it as a bit of a leader.

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get a resource bonus by controlling the surrounding CP's

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actually have a reason to cap them all

jade pendant
#

Yes! That would be awesome! And have trophies you can display for doing certain in game activities.

ashen jungle
#

this sounds like good ideas for div3

jade pendant
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haha

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I'd like a couple of wall displays for my backpack trophies and arm patches. 😁

ashen jungle
#

Actually that would be a good use for those, since i doubt many people swap them on the regular.

spare arrow
#

actually

jade pendant
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lol my real name is Sam, so I always use the Sam patch. 😆

spare arrow
#

RIP- Sam

jade pendant
#

yeah. ☹️

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Ubi killed my roboself

spare arrow
#

atleast ubi didnt kill you.

jade pendant
#

True

ashen jungle
#

the ubisassins are on their way now

#

they've already killed rayman, you're up next

jade pendant
#

Nooooo....not Rayman!

#

I loved that weird floaty limbed bastard!

round sinew
#

Re: Cities, would be nice to see Division on the west coast or the south.

#

We've gotten DC, NYC, Cleveland, Philly, and Detroit in various Division stuff. Why not a game in LA SF, or Houston? Maybe even Atlanta or Miami?

#

How is Alaska or Hawaii handling things?

ashen jungle
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The thing is, it needs to be somewhere both recognisable and have plot relevance. Div2 wouldn't have worked with the presidential stuff if it was set in Florida, for example.

green plume
#

If the Russian theory for hunters is true then maybe go to russia to investigate

ashen jungle
#

What russian theory?

green plume
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that the hunters are Russian operatives sent to disrupt the US

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thats the theory

#

idk what the background to it is or what backs it up but with hunters there isnt much to go on so its anyone's guess

ashen jungle
#

I.....I mean maybe the ones in Summit or something, but how does that work for the Underground ones in Div1 and the Mask Hunters in Div2?

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"we're gonna disrupt the US by making you honour our fallen US solider friends". Ghost Mask.

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Why do people think they're Russian?

green plume
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

cyan path
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They don't talk at all and in the first game they only used weapons of russian origin

green plume
#

"we're gonna disrupt the US by making you honour our fallen US solider friends". Ghost Mask.
@cyan path

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it could be interpreted different ways

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a) they are russian and served with them and now consider them friends
b) they worked together and were just American operatives who's friends were killed

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to support option a if they were american they wouldnt say "our fallen us soldier friends" they would just say "our fallen soldier friends"

cold bramble
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only used weapons of russian origin
i mean anyone can buy an ak, that dosen't really mean anything

ashen jungle
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Yeah the AK-47 is one of the most popular weapons in the world for a reason. They are VERY easy to access.
Also, why did you tag efan lol, that was my quote.

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I mean, this is all really, really stretched. Isn't it more likely they're just SHD agents who decided to do their own thing?

sleek plover
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Wait didnt Ellis mention some kinda secret society in the database entry?

green plume
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@ashen jungle ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

mint citrus
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He did. @sleek plover

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I think it's Sokolova's benefactors

tough sentinel
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Has anyone been able to kill one of the hunters that comes out while killing a manhunt rogue, if so what happened and what did it drop

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I know the story and how Schaffer is using the hunters, but I’m still curious

spare arrow
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The manhunt rogues have been killed, but they didnt drop anything.

tough sentinel
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No I mean the HUNTERS

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The hunters that come out with this seasons rogue bounties

spare arrow
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Yes. The hunters have also been killed. Nothing unusual dropped from them.

tough sentinel
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Oh

spare arrow
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They didnt drop loot from what we've seen.

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Sorry, im tired. I did originally mean the hunters.

tough sentinel
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Man massive could have put some more lore when killing them...

spare arrow
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According to some, since the hunter isnt "meant" to be killed during the bounty, we may actually get the shrapnel trap from that hunter.

tough sentinel
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Haha

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An oopsie on massive

spare arrow
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The hunter isnt meant to be killed thing? I mean, yeah, unless you dump a ton of damage on the hunter before he runs, course he is gonna die.

tough sentinel
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Yah but you said we could get the trap from the hunter right?

spare arrow
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That hunter may be one of bardon's cronies and is trying to tie up loose ends, as during the comms from the manhunt it seems that the manhunt rogues are starting to turn back to their original faction, against black tusk, and bardon just sends the hunter after them after they try to turn.

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The hunter may be a boss or something during bardon's mission.

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Idk, really, but thats my best informed guess.

tough sentinel
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Ohhhh that would be fun I see

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Bet there gonna do that in the capitol, or DUA

spare arrow
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I can see capitol, tbh.

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That or tidal... again.

tough sentinel
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Yah probably gonna save Faye for DUA

spare arrow
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Or a new stronghold mission.

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Who knows.

tough sentinel
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I mean the “project nightmare” is coming out with Faye so...

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Maybe?

spare arrow
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Who knows, really.

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I DOUBT that kenly is gonna be faye's mission, i really do.

tough sentinel
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I’m honestly sticking with this game until Cyberpunk comes out

spare arrow
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So forever, gotcha.

tough sentinel
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Haha

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But I mean... project nightmare.

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Hmm I do wonder

spare arrow
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Project nightmare is kenly repurposed, probably a zombie mode if i had to guess just right now

tough sentinel
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Yah but I don’t see them doing that, they did say horde mode, yes, but... I don’t know, I don’t see them doing that especially with the summit out.

spare arrow
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Maybe div2's version of a "drop in, get gear, and survive as long as you can"

tough sentinel
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Another survival? I could see that since they saw everyone still doing the first one

round sinew
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Survival would make sense

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Its how they closed out Div1

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Might as well be how they close out Div2

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Belfry is next week or the week after?

jade pendant
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Week after. Second league week and polarity event, I believe?

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That's next week

spiral turtle
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I’m so behind on manhunt cause I’ve been playing nothing but watch dogs legion for the past week lmao

rustic fox
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Bagley approves of this message @spiral turtle

silent geyser
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is it good?

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i'm thinking of buying it

rustic fox
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you getting it for xbox or pc?

silent geyser
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xbox

rustic fox
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will you be getting series X/S ?

silent geyser
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i don't play on pc because i don't have a gpu 😛

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s

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didn't they say the kenly college thing was coming out with tu11 :/

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or tu12

rustic fox
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no they said later this year

silent geyser
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so tu12

rustic fox
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so maybe not tu12

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we'll find out more on what Tu12 includes today on SOTG

sleek plover
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I really hope I could see some special quotes on ex lmb among btsu

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or at least dialogues btw cleaners and outcasts

waxen arrow
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the cleaners and outcasts would not get along

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cleaners would probably burn them all

cyan path
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Outcasts literally used Emeline's blood to weaponize the green poison

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if anything the Cleaners would prefer to buddy up with the Division rather than working with the Outcasts

waxen arrow
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probably

spare arrow
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i mean anything that the cleaners havent deemed "Safe" they just torch the hell outta.

waxen arrow
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yeah

sleek plover
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I mean since rhey are polar opposites, i hoped there would be at least one dialogue mentioning each other.

waxen arrow
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I would love that

cyan path
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I would also love to hear Hyenas and Rikers call each other wannabe punks or something

ashen jungle
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Right after the game explains to us what happened to the Rioters.

spiral turtle
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@silent geyser yes it’s very good

waxen arrow
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the rioters probably died out, considering the fact that it has been 7 months since this whole shitshow started

ashen jungle
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Having that large of a single group dying out is a bit of a stretch. Just a single comm saying they broke up and joined the other factions would've been fine.

lethal cedar
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Maybe i'm overthinking, but... Rikers and the Hyena could try to work with each other at first, like the arms deal in TD1, but after some mess up, either by some hyena high on spice, or agents, they will be at war, and since Rikers are controlling the black market and Hyenas are the growing bunch, they will try to out gun and out sell each other in terms of firepower, drugs and maybe even tech (Even the Raid boss Lit. Gray uses spice) Cleans and Outcast will be actively trying to kill each other since one side is about burning out any thing that is potentially infected, and all of the Outcasts are actively using the virus or are infected themselves (the rusher) . The LMB, if the trailer for WONY is correct, some joined the JTF, while others joined the BT (Support and rusher), already killing them, and they are killing everyone ,so that's that. Rioters...maybe they become the Ambushers? i mean, in NY there's that balaclava wearing enemy with AK ,that is teamed up with the DC ambushers (trashcan lit guys, arrow guys, guy with HUGE bag), or maybe they went too crazy after all the crap and went underground and muted themselves or something . Last but not least, our hugging buddy the Hunters, with this season's manhunt the guys are pretty happily beheading everyone...enough said

silent geyser
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is hunter emp and skills different from the others?

lethal cedar
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As for the potential buddy up with division, or the other way round, i would go with BT and Cleaners, since both SHD and Cleaners are about the cleaning up of virus, cleaners are just too extreme with the fire, and since there's a literal viral faction out there, they could team up, i mean they are working fine with Rogues and even build that stupid EMP thing. And maybe, just maybe, BT, since judging from what Bradon says during the Manhunt, i'm getting the feeling that he is that type of guy who tries to be the good guy, but is doing the wrong thing, is like a stove is one fire, and he just toss the nearest bodies of liquid at it, not knowing it is oil. If by chance he lives after that, and his boss say something, maybe there could be a truce or ceasefire

spare arrow
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LT. Gray uses some modified hive tech, actually. Not spice.

lethal cedar
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humm, but the Raid journal said this "Gray can simultaneously armour up and give himself a dose of combat stims (although I'm pretty sure it's just spice he stole from the Hyenas). - Z"

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The hunter's EMP, as far as i can see, is similar to the SHD's emp, it just has longer duration and range, as for the other 2 skills, it is just rogue agent skills, they even have the TD1 syringe armor heals

spare arrow
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Its probably spice, but Zach is an unreliable narrator.

lethal cedar
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i see i see

silent geyser
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will i be able to kill that 1 hunter in the manhunt target?

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i want his mask so much!

spare arrow
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You can kill him, but you wont get his mask.

silent geyser
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when will we be able to get his mask?

spare arrow
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Wont get anything off the body as it currently stands. During the final fight with Schaeffer, maybe, as its been hypothesized that he is working with the BTSU, Maybe you'll get his mask then.

silent geyser
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gonna hope for it

spare arrow
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But we havent seen Schaeffer's fight or any of the mission, so who knows.

lethal cedar
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there's that Explosive Trap though, some Exotic fireteam on the summit is already using it

silent geyser
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next week for final target?

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(schaeffer)

spare arrow
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2 weeks, i believe.

silent geyser
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:/ wow so much time to wait

lethal cedar
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next week is still dusk league

round sinew
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Just play WD Legion until then ha

cold bramble
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Right after the game explains to us what happened to the Rioters.
you still see them

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they are those dudes with the basic clothing and balaclavas

ashen jungle
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actually no, those are an unaffiliated faction, like the scavengers in DC.

cold bramble
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oh really?

spare arrow
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The rioters were unaffiliated in TD1, also.

cold bramble
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those people are what the rioters looked like in d1 iirc

ashen jungle
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Not exactly, in div1 they were more bulky cause of the cold I guess.

cold bramble
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yeah

ashen jungle
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In div1 the rioters were mostly unaffiliated, but they did work in gangs. in div2 it seems they've totally separated, if that's them.

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I guess you can see them as a kinda proto-Hyena.

sleek plover
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Well Rioters ARE my fav faction alongaide outcasts...
But I do hate LMB with passion.
I mean I downloaded div 2 because i wanted to see LMB remnants crushed...

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As for rioters, I think they were never a formal faction to begin with.
If a survivor decide to mug people with gun pointed in gangsta grip, he or she is rioter.

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But thats like the reason why i like them, they have no ideology that they follow, they are doing what they do because they want sth and will take it.
As for hyenas, they definitely evolved themselves from splintering gangs to a bona fide faction.
Rikers did have an easier background to make themselves a faction, so i think remnants of two groups allying is a possibility.
Like if they manage to trade arms btw dc and ny and discover they got their arse kicked by division agents, because of their hatred of agents and their currently dwindling numbers they probably would unite, forming some kinda east coast raider syndicate

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But LMB, i just really hate those bastards.
Freedom is a right, liberty is a given.
To deny this is a sin.

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And naturally the same hatred would go to True sons and BTSU. And cleaner has the second place.

last mantle
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The LMB and BTSU have always been esthetically pleasing to my eyes.

waxen arrow
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The special operatives that want control of the most powerful cities in the country? why wouldn't they try to invade it?

glacial geyser
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Question about a Hunter spawn, sorry if this is the wrong channel

round sinew
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What about it

cold bramble
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the hunter for the second manhunt boss was really aggressive

round sinew
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Yes

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The 3rd is even more aggressive

cold bramble
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really

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i haven't gotten to them yet and probably won't for a while

round sinew
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Oof

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Better hurry, Belfry releases soon.

steel light
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Where do you think we'll fight schaeffer at?

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Cause we fought jupiter in roosevelt and then we fought hornet in tidal basin

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Whats your guess?

mild vine
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Maybe capitol

round sinew
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Probably Liberty Island

mild vine
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Can't say for sure

round sinew
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Oh, Capitol would be good, too.

steel light
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I literally thought we were gonna fight him in camp white oak

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Idk why

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It just popped in my head

round sinew
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Nah. We already have Camp White Oak invaded

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That's also a bad boss map.

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Too open. He'd get shrecked

steel light
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So its either capitol or district union

mild vine
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It would make sense but all manhunt targets have been strongholds so I would think it would be capital or district

round sinew
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DU with hunters would be cancer

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If Liberty isn't used for Schaeffer, it'll be used for Lau I bet.

mild vine
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Now that I think about it I think bardon will be district and lau might be capital

steel light
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Idk why but i had a theory which is a stupid theory i made is that those hunters we encounter werent actually hunters more like division agents disguising as hunters maybe its just a theory i made

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The ones that we encounter on the manhunt bounties

round sinew
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Bad theory

steel light
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Yeah ik

round sinew
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Sorry, bud

steel light
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Nah its fine

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Besides its just a stupid theory i made

mild vine
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Bit of a long shot but interesting for sure

round sinew
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All theories are good to throw into the community tho.

steel light
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Is the new mode coming with season 4?

mild vine
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The kenley college event

steel light
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Yeah

mild vine
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It's called nightmare

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I believe so

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I wonder what it is so I'm a little bit hyped for it

steel light
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Would you guys rather let the story of the division end with division 2 or let it continue with a sequel or a spinoff

mild vine
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I would love to have it continue even if it would be a spinoff

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But i can only hope for a division 3 but the devs are focused on division 2's seasons and the kenley event so at least they are still trying with this game

steel light
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Imagine if r6 and div 2 had a crossover like what they did with ghost recon

mild vine
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That would be very interesting

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It wouldn't be far off either

steel light
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Maybe we can get new designs for the siege operators who knows

mild vine
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Now thay you mention it that would make a really good apparel event

steel light
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Interesting

round sinew
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Ech

ashen jungle
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Yes Faye.

waxen arrow
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agreed

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eye patch after we, uhh, light her on fire?

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fuck it, ill explode her, as a nice touch of irony.

ashen jungle
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crash a helicopter to really complete the circle

waxen arrow
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yes

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I might have to ask kelso a for a few favors...

ashen jungle
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we did rescue a pilot in the classified mission, im willing to lose him if it means irony.

waxen arrow
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what you do, is you use the riot foam launcher, right?

ashen jungle
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emp sticky bomb, nuff said

waxen arrow
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I want to level up the pass enough so then I can do jupiter and hornet's fights

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so then I get the skills

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but I hope faye drops a hologram or something like that

ashen jungle
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emp sticky is great, repair is....well its a trap ability so ymmv

waxen arrow
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there are already 3 bombs, and going to be 3 traps

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and only 1 holo

ashen jungle
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decoy is already a thing., what would a hologram do?

waxen arrow
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maybe a decoy with low health, and it moves in one direction?

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and if it runs into someone, it shocks them?

ashen jungle
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Decoy on a roomba, gotcha.

waxen arrow
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yes.

ashen jungle
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with a taser taped on the front

short tree
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lol imagine

waxen arrow
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imagine a twitch drone, but better

ashen jungle
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i want to mod mine to have a cheese grater and cause bleed damage.

waxen arrow
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fuck it, make a woodchipper

ashen jungle
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nah, just gotta make it take a few (dozen) passes with the grater.

short tree
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i would mod mine to have a cleaver

ashen jungle
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pros: good economy skil
cons: only works on heavy

waxen arrow
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imagine if it did have a cleaver, then the more melee damage you have the more damage it does

ashen jungle
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Actually here's a question: what enemy attacks/abilities (any faction) are there which we dont have, that could be for a future manhunt?

waxen arrow
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support station

ashen jungle
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hive

waxen arrow
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what, lt. gray's hive?

ashen jungle
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only one i can think of is the hyena melee unit's boost.

waxen arrow
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I doubt that spice would be a good idea for agents.

ashen jungle
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we could substitute it for an adrenalin shot.

jade pendant
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I'd like the div 1 support station back please

waxen arrow
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maybe a hive that dispenses overheal and a small amount of health regen?

ashen jungle
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should be a very small AoE around the agent using it, not a launched thing.

waxen arrow
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and a short duration

ashen jungle
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kinda like how the Artificer works if you keep it on

lethal cedar
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what they have and what we don't have....humm... Hyena's FBI full body SMG shield, spice buff, vapor buff grenade from medic, True son ironclad armor, riot foam roller, hardened foam, Outcast is out, but maybe the contact molotov instead of the incendiary grenade that the enemies could just roll out of the radius below it detonates, BTSU's suicide drone, marker drone that shoots, reviver drone, old LMB support hive, stinger AND support hive combo in one with WT heavy, shock grenade, lethal / radiation EMP that , does the "P" in pulsing , Riker 's Blitz flash shield , maybe even their "LMG mounted and loaded "thing , Cleaner bomblet drone, tar sentry , Undergrounder/Unchained 's DC 62 grenades or even the "poisoned" stat weapon, maybe adding to Oxider ?

ashen jungle
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A lot of those we kinda already have somewhat better versions of already, e.g. incendiary grenade with Mad Bomber.
But yeah some of those are interesting, I think eventually we'll see most added in one way or another.

lethal cedar
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i'm hoping more of an "argumentation" than actual weapon/skill mods if you know what i mean, stuff like "Tar Modification" and "Incendiary Payload Modification" that can be applied to the Artillery sentry and bombardier drone respectively that changes how the weapon functions , with some pros and cons, maybe lesser ammo firing speed, longer cool down etc, which trades for a "damaging riot foam" tar that stops enemies and burn them instead of the normal artillery ,or a bombardier drone that drops all the bomb in one spot instead of a "bombing run"

ashen jungle
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That seems like it'd open up a can of worms for the other skills, an interesting can but still a can has been opened.

lethal cedar
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i'm just hoping for a BT style reviver drone thing, or maybe some kind of reviver that revives the agent ,with full armor, and even some overheal like those True son iron horse medics and elite BT medic

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but it would be kind of unbalance for PVP, so Ubi might not be considering it

mild vine
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the higher the skill tier of the reviver the higher armor it gives back

lethal cedar
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"Remote reviver drone ,cast onto downed/dead agents to send the drone to them to revive, drone self destruct after use"

spiral turtle
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How many weeks left on the season

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I haven’t played in a bit so I’m just checking

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Been preoccupied with Better other games

ashen jungle
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Wrong channel, but you can check ingame if you open up the Season Menu, IIRC about 4-5 weeks left.

spiral turtle
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Whoops thought I was in general, thanks anyways @ashen jungle

ashen jungle
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nw mate, best of luck on that grind.

warm ginkgo
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bruh image no load

ashen jungle
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not really a spoiler, but gl you crazy Exo.

lost lark
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probably meant to drop that in general chat or something

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and missclicked

sleek plover
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TBH i really hope I can wear hoods alongside my newly earned black balaclava to further complete my rioter look

cold bramble
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What if at the end of season 4 the rogues all gather as one and kill us then we no longer have access to our character

green plume
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kenly college takeover when?

spare arrow
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sometime in season 4 from what the dev's have told us.

round sinew
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I just can't wait for the end of this allahforsaken game

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Barring some juicy new lore content, these manhunts are draining my resolve.

spiral turtle
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What’s funny is this game has only been out for like a year and a half, yet it honestly feels like 5 @round sinew

round sinew
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Yes

pseudo cliff
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@spiral turtle wait what

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I thought it was only like 2 years

spiral turtle
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it came out march of 2019

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so like a year and 8 months

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i was saying for some reason its felt like this game has been out for like 5+ years

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idk why

steel radish
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Not even the first Div came out 5 years ago

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Pretty close tho

sleek plover
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We definitely need more lore content.

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Why dont they add Cleaner/Riker infos on the combat intel?

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Also death to LMB and whatevers left of it guys

ashen jungle
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Well, Cleaner/Riker info is in the lore, it's just all in Div1. They got fully fleshed out back then.
What do you want to know about them?

cyan path
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The rikers and cleaners are different from Div 1, they could put info about how they changed after Ferro and Barret's death during the months between div 1 and div 2

ashen jungle
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Well the Cleaners change is well documented in WONY, there's several chat logs about the Rogue that took over their leadership, etc.

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Rikers I've gotta say are likely just seen as troops by Keener, Dragov seems to actually care about them but it's clear that he's probably the one one that does.

plush stratus
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Anyone know what the new exotic is ? I know its an AR but anyone know what its called or what it can do

spare arrow
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All we know is that its from the Summit.

round sinew
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Is Belfry out today? We got juicy new audio logs?

weary gulch
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no

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this week is global event

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+league week 2

round sinew
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Damn

glad spruce
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Next week, mate. Next week and we get to kick Schaeffer's sorry ass

steel radish
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Oh wow season 3 is going by in a flash

round sinew
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Not fast enough. I've almost beaten Watchdogs Legion

spiral turtle
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I already did beat it petter

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Good game

round sinew
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Damn son.

ashen jungle
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@gusty fulcrum it's more of a spoiler, but I'm fairly sure she died.

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either between games or in the Haven attack.

gusty fulcrum
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you mean city hall

ashen jungle
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Whatever attack that kicked off WONY.

gusty fulcrum
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ah

ashen jungle
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in Div1 it was the Post Office, so ymmv.

gusty fulcrum
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nothing is mentioned abt it in-game

ashen jungle
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fairly sure they mention her either in a cutscene (Kandel) or in a comm.

gusty fulcrum
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I have every comm

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lol

ashen jungle
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must be a cutscene then. I haven't replayed WONY since it launched, but I do remember her being confirmed as dead.

gusty fulcrum
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I don't remember it anywhere.

ashen jungle
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im about a week off another playthrough of it, so I'll see if I remembered right.

cold bramble
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the skyscraper hunters drop masks now

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maybe not but i just got an adamant mask

ashen jungle
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That's a reward you get for finishing Summit.
Congrats btw.

round sinew
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Kandel is still alive

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She wasn't even in NYC at the time of the attack.

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Or, well. Unless she went back to NYC for some reason, but her last known location was not NYC.

ashen jungle
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Source?

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Best I can tell she's in Ann Arbor if not in NYC, but Tusk took it over so she's either dead or wishes she was.

round sinew
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Probably the next scientist we'll have to save

ashen jungle
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Unless she's been put to work making Keener's "virus book".

round sinew
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That's a fear as well

analog venture
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someone carry me in a raid lmao

low mural
round sinew
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4 days until we finally end like 6+ months of Schaeffer's bullshit

steel light
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We're coming for you belfry

weary gulch
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plus schaffer

mint citrus
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They're both dropping on the same day?

round sinew
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Yes, as is expected

mint citrus
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Ah, good to know!

weary gulch
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when you kill all 4 you can hunt him so belfry release= schaffer release

mint citrus
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I'm assuming that for the Faye manhunt she'll dome Ellis and get away

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Become our new Keener

round sinew
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I wish

ashen jungle
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I don't. Her VA sucks.

round sinew
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Faye in general sucks

ashen jungle
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Character is alright, but they just picked the flattest VA, maybe it was bad direction, but she sounds like a random NPC more than a major character.

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Lol she was a finalist on Canadian Idol. That explains a lot.
I do hope her story ends though, feels cheap to keep on using the same chars from Div1 over again.

round sinew
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Oh boy here it comes

ashen jungle
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Today's the big day.

spare arrow
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I'm excited.

ashen jungle
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I wonder which Stronghold it's gonna be, excited to be surprised by it actually.

steel radish
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You would think Schaeffer would use the Tidal Basin

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But they already used it

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Who knows, maybe they’ll use DH?

ashen jungle
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They've still got 2 base-game strongholds and Manning Zoo before we run out.

steel radish
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  • they could use the WoNY missions
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Those were stronghold length

cold bramble
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Who knows, maybe they’ll use DH?
this would be really interesting

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but it might be overkill for a simple manhunt boss

steel radish
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I mean

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It’s better to overkill than to underkill right?

silent geyser
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Who knows, maybe they’ll use DH?
@steel radish imagine! i hope its like that

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that would be soo cool

ashen jungle
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It’s better to overkill than to underkill right?
@steel radish It would certainly help with their Payday.

spare arrow
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Now i gotta go listen to Razormind, dang it

sleek plover
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So we are finally going afger Bardon post belfry.

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If the LMB is now part of BTSU, I am more than encouraged to tear him to pieces of bloody pulp.

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But still, I would be soooo happy to encounter a bounty or a manhunt target exclusively made out of and mentioned as Ex LMB soldiers.

ashen jungle
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Razormind is best track, followed by either of the Hotline Miami and then the vocal tracks.

marsh gulch
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It's in Coney Island not a stronghold