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I think so man
like i killed the hunter but he doesnt drop anything
nvm i deleted it lol
Alright
when i came to the spot the hunter was already being ganked by both black tusk and rikers
Same
I died the first time because I'm clueless, then he spawned again on my second attempt
so I'm assuming it's scripted
I’m assuming we’re gonna get some hunter lore this season
They pop up on the summit, we get a backpack themed around them
And now this
the plot thickens
I’m glad I got the achievement for doing the manhunt on challenging or above last season. Def doing it on normal now
That was painful
Granted I did the whole season and not just the mission on heroic
Because I don’t know how to read
wait just to be clear sokolova in the comms that i picked up after doing the shade bounty is the same as in sokolov concern brand?
oh wow the leaks are true
🤔
Of course they’re true. Hence, “leaks” instead of rumors.
This is the only channel I frequent lol
Yes it's fixed ran it earlier today 8/10 points though my team died a good 2/3 times for a full restart
I just ran the Shade bounty. I found a Hunter as well, but it wasn't named. He didn't attack me at all and bamf'd out as soon as all the Rikers were dead.
I assume they see the name after they got decked by an unexpected hunter
I guess.
I'm confused why mine wanted nothing to do with me. He helped me kill Rikers, then dropped behind cover when I targeted him and smoked out
Wait a second.
I think he’s scripted to, well, not die
I think he’s gonna pop up on the other manhunts
Bardon's rogue cell is Shade, Belfry, Wraith, and whoever the 4th is, right?
Yeah
How many of the Hunters have we hit that have spooky names.
Hell, one gave us the Wraith mask.
I wonder if that's supposed to be some kind of connection?
Just a coincidence that Hunters and Schaeffer/Faye like spooky names?
"Welcome to the Division. We like Halloween here."
It’s not like these names are very thought through
Hell, season 1 looked like they were just assigned random planet names
I may or may not have seen that an upcoming apparel event has the hunters "logo" on the chests
Dunno how old this is just so you know
It's hinted Keener assigned those callsigns.
The new (I assume) apparel gear for the event looks quite hunter esque
That too, there's still a hunter to be found on coney Island
Also we're definitely not supposed to be able to kill that hunter during the shade bounty
That pic
Also this is just me pondering
That looks like all 3 NY factions been beefed up
Oh I can't upload photos.
Well, they’re wearing agent watches, one has a bulwark shield and ones carrying the spec flamethrower
The Hunter logo looks a lot like a stylized wolf.
You know who else in the Tom Clancy games uses a wolf logo?
Bodark
Someone debunked a similar theory
It's been said (?) that division is completely separate from the other games
Which really sucks but I hope that isn't true
It is
They've said that before but i don't trust anyone at Ubi
"Separate franchises" and then I see a crossover for Watchdogs and Assassin's Creed.
???
Lmao and splinter cell in siege
"Separate franchises" and then I see a Splinter Cell easter egg in Far Cry.
Every other Tom Clancy game are in the Clancyverse
Sure there was that splinter cell mission in wildlands too
Lmao and splinter cell in siege
@wraith light
But that makes sense. Tom Clancy games.
But fuck that decision anyways, it makes no sense.
Yeah, because they’re actually connected
^
Splinter Cell, Ghost Recon, Rainbow 6, EndWar, HAWX. They've always been connected.
Even if Ubisoft wants to forget HAWX and EndWar happened.
I still maintain Division is connected. Otherwise, why use the fucking Tom Clancy franchise name.
What makes most sense to me is division and wildlands/breakpoint being connected
Hunters specifically
But my brain is small when it comes to theory shit so 
Hunters, Bodark, Raven's Rock, Wolves, Phantoms, and Los Extranjeros all have similarities.
Likely because out of those 6, 4 are connected to each other.
And one is "normal evil Tom Clancy PMC"
That leaves the Hunters.
Dont the hunters also share a tattoo or marking specifically with one of those factions you mentioned?
Not that I've seen, but their wolf logo is pretty similar to the Bodark logo.
But Tbh I'd be kinda pissed if Hunters turned out to just be Russian SF
Honestly, I think I'll hate any revelation
100%
Currently they have the advantage of mystery, so they seem like these inhuman killing machines. Even if at this point we've all killed like 30 of them lol
Despite killing so many they're fucking terrifying.
I agree completely man, keep em a mystery
Expand on them in some aspect sure
But leave em as you said, inhuman killing machines
never been so terrified of something like them in a shooter game before
Might just be me, but the Hunters in D2 are scarier than in D1.
At least in Division 1, you knew you'd have to fight one off in Survival, or randomly get screwed by having one pop up in the Underground.
But in Division 2, they have cute little puzzles, but even if you're not doing a puzzle, they can just pop out to fuck with you.
I mean I'm still surprised that they're kinda building onto them still
Yeah.
The fact they're the Floor 100 "boss" isn't shocking. Having a game mode like that makes sense for the hardest units outside of raid-gimmick bosses be present.
But having one pop up trying to fuck around while you're chasing Shade is interesting.
We'll have to see if that Hunter or another one pops up in a few weeks when Wraith comes out.
Did you see what I quoted from the State of the Game thing further up?
Apparently during state of the game they said "We are not the only ones hunting the manhunt target"
"they" being the devs
so most definitely, wouldnt be surprised if Bardon's fight turns into a big thing with a hunter to fight as well as him
one can hope I guess lmao
That begs the question: Why are the Hunters going after Black Tusk personnel and Black Tusk-aligned Rogue agents?
The only time they've ever been directly mentioned in-game is when you have to find Edwards. It's the only time someone other than the Player Agent or ISAC seems to be aware of them.
I assumed they were neutral tbh
Or maybe they're "helping" clear the way for something bigger
Theres that "nightmare" game mode coming at the end of the year iirc
set up for div 3
Nightmare seems like a spooky theme in-line with Hunter naming.
since they even bothered to port d2 to next gen, its very likely to be an expansion
Is div 2 better played on console or?
It's not an expansion though.
I nearly bought the base game yesterday n all for xbox
It's been marketed as a limited-time event taking place in Kenly College.
could they not just replace kenly now??
"limited" because kenly is limited
So I can't tell if it's like a one of the league events we've been getting, or if it's going to be a gamemode.
idk why Kenly can't just be available all the time.
I cleared it on my own once. It's... Interesting.
its a investigation type mission, its where the manhunt bs came from
It feels like they were trying to test a new format of how to play the game.
I did not get those vibes at all lmao
its a investigation type mission, its where the manhunt bs came from
@cold bramble tbh if every Manhunt was just formatted like Kenly, I'd be happier.
Much more fun than "replay all those missions you've ground 1000 times already"
speaking of nightmare, it could be the halloween event they had planned but delayed because covid
Well. We got Summit, which is just Underground 2.
I'm gonna guess Nightmare is Survival 2.
Except I'm gonna go out on a limb and bet it's PvE.
I sure as hell hope so
Not PvPvE
Is PvP prevalent enough in div 2 though?
no
I assumed as much
I still want manhunts to function like mini invasions
At least give the targets their own missions instead of a bounty
Okay, so I was gonna talk how there was a random Hunter showing up in the Shade bounty, but I guess that's already being discussed
I'm more interested about the audio logs for this season. Sounds like the Rogue Agents hired by Schaeffer was a directive from Natalya. One of BT's higher ups, I presume
Yes.
Seems like Faye is helping Schaeffer gather Rogues. I'd guess they found 8 Rogues, and split the recruits between the two of them.
I wonder if Natalya Sokolova is on purpose.
Like the name.
What
I was thinking maybe she's related to the Sokolov Concern. Maybe Sokolov Concern is a backer- YES
Thank you.
Maybe some of the "brands" we see in-game are the reason Black Tusk exists.
Maybe they're the investors.
That reminds me, there's one ECHO from D.C, where Charles Douglas expresses concern about the manufacturing side of D&H with his partner John Harding, and Douglas was believing that a ''secret cabal'' were deliberately freezing out their business.
The lore thickens
Borderlands type shit
so wait... we have one bounty hunter for Shade now... I heard there was 2 "Stalker Hunters" as well???
Tell me if I'm looking too much into this
ODER Electronics, the company logo plastered all over the summit building is a lot similar to the hunters logo
oof
I wonder if those same 3 division agents that appear in trailers have any backstory
Msv hasn't put much thought into the trailers like they did in 1
So probably not
Not even memeing like the d1 shills
I want a whole ass hour long movie cinematic consisting of Division 1 Factions dishing it out.
ah yes the cringe action shorts
@round sinew Frrrr tho where the fuck is it? Shit's been in production for like 4 years
Probably development hell.
I can only assume Ubisoft was ready to make a bunch of movies, but I bet the lackluster reception of Assassin's Creed kinda killed their spirit.
I know they wanted to do a Splinter Cell movie and a Ghost Recon movie as well, but I bet those got panned like the Division one.
are there actually boxes on every 3 floors of skyscraper?
if i miss them will i have to do all 100 floors again?
theres a chance for an exotic crafting item to drop yes
drops from each box on every 3rd level, so 13, 16, 19 for example
one for each difficulty in summit
alright i still dont completely understand it but thank you 😄
I've only ever gotten useless trash from those boxes.
Besides, the hallways of Summit give me anxiety.
My first run into the summit, we did floors 1-21. I found a single exotic crafting piece
theres 1 pc per difficulty level and the chance of getting it from the crates is like 20%
I've now gone up to floor 60.
It's all the same.
Found a team of rogue agents. That was fun.
what difficulties do they drop[ on though?
every. 1 pc per difficulty
so you have to do it on normal too? :/
yes
q. How do rogue agents spawns actually work? I've gotten multiple in the summit recently
its random spawn. every level is randomly generated i think
i got a triple rolled merciless from one earlier
ah, an exotic component
I got a Diamondback with shitty rolls. Only thing I've ever that's halfway decent.
lol my diamondback was god roll
It was better than my Kenly College one, so it's whatever. I usually have shit luck anyways.
Though I found out my gearset is actually good on Challenging.
I wanna know where to get the eagel bearer
@waxen fox from dh raid, time time please the raid questions to #td2-raid-discussions please
well @low mural how would I have known?
@low mural homer shoots mr burns
@low mural Rico executes Visari in cold blood.
im in a 3 man squad and doing summit and we got to level 80 what type of builds should we take into legendary
@winter solar When I ran it with my group, we had a legendary setup variant of 1 healer, 1 CC, 1 DPS full red, and 1 Hunter’s Fury Hybrid with the healer making the shields borderline invincible.
But you should always have a healer, and you can either have 2 DPS with the healer or 1 DPS with a healer and CC
is there any checkpoints from 91 to 100 or is it all in one go
There is only one checkpoint at 91, and to reach 100 again, you’ll need to go from 91-100 again
If you wipe, there is a session checkpoint every 3 floors that will go away when you leave the session, so it would go like 93-96-99
It’s kind of weird
Let me elaborate
Clearing floor 93-96-99 gets you a checkpoint, getting to 100 gives you the usual permanent 10 floor checkpoint, but will not give you it to go back to after extracting
If I’m correct
i understand the leaving summit takes you to 91
and so on
just didnt know if you get cps at 99 or so
This should 100% be fixed (they said ON Stream that you ONLY have to go through the Summit ONCE) they lied because as it stands you have to be lucky enough to get all 5exotic pieces and then go to 100. Doing 91+ is a extreme pain in the ass. And we should totally be able to go straight to 100 after finishing it
Also all inifinite spawns on the objectives must go .... it's neither fun nor any joy of replaying it
There are no infinite spawns
^
Unless it changes on higher levels, me and a mate discovered sitting outside doors and using our turrets to pick enemies off until they stopped spawning. We were both skill builds. We made it to 60 before we got bored.
It's the best way to solo certain objectives on legendary
So do we have a definitive answer on what’s up with the hunter in the shade bounty? I know some people said he was named for them. Mine was unnamed, fought the rikers, i shot him all the way down and he disappeared.
was just about to ask that
Did the manhunt bounty, the section before the final boss I saw a hunter puff of smoke but no Hunter
He's very shy
Wish I recorded the bounty now lol
Very strange I thought it might be a bug or one I triggered by accident. Guess that all but confirms the hunter’s involvement in black tusks interests.
The opposite
^
According to the wording of something shown previously (I forgot what exactly) it says we aren’t the only ones going after the rogues
Or something to that effect
And if it’s referring to the hunters (which is likely) then the hunters have the opposite of interests of black tusk if they are trying to kill black tusk affiliated rogues
Oh that’s even weirder
Hunters are a concerned 3rd party at this point.
They obviously have issues with SHD, and they also seem to have issues with Black Tusk, or at least the rogue agents.
At this point, my working theory is they're basically SHD's Internal Affairs. They're out to clean up every other agent, regardless of their rogue status.
Basically the old 3rd Wave theory, but this is obviously a larger movement than the NYC Waves.
I think SHD's 3 Headquarters have lost control in some way, and the Hunters are agents activated to wipe out evidence of the rest of the agents.
Have you seen the leaked season 2/3 info at all?
While on the topic of hunters again
Seeing as we're on Season 3, I don't think anything for season 2 or 3 is really a leak at this point lol
So you've seen how the Schaefer fight is supposedly going to go?
I hope copying this works
To not spoil anything to do with the leaks: ||the appearance of this hunter may refer to something mentioned in the leaks of this hunter or a group of them being infact contracted by Schaffer|| Major spoiler in next set, just need to emphasize it here It spoils the storyline of the manhunt basically ||On Schaffer's actual mission it is said that the boss fight starts with the Hunters being ordered to kill the agents, to then two BTSU Lieutenants which would then finally result in Bardon himself. Of course though the leaks haven't proven to be 100% accurate, but it may be likely nonetheless||
Just some interesting info on our mysterious boys
Black tusk where fucked over by keener, maybe he's taking revenge since we're hunting them down anyway?
Taking revenge on... His own recruits?
Just spit balling
Schaeffer seems like a fairly straightforward and rational guy just trying to do his job.
I can't see him doing some weird conspiracy where he's hiring two groups to fight against each other.
He gains nothing from the Hunters that work for him to be fighting and killing the rogues that also work for him.
We just don't have enough info yet. But they seem to be opening up Hunter lore now, so we'll just have to wait and see what we find out when hunting the next rogue.
If "Jones" pops up again for the next bounty then something is 100% up
Maybe another Hunter pops up. Maybe we'll learn something in the audio logs.
Hopefully, delighted they're getting some content
if i die on level 94 will i respawn at the elevator?
yes
@wraith light who is "jones"
@cold bramble If you've played the Shade bounty, you'll find him.
Jones is supposedly the hunter that you encounter in the Agent Edwards side mission that comes in and fucks around with you, but doesnt kill you
Now he's back(?)
a named hunter? that is pretty important if he is unkillable
i did find him
he wasn't named though

that;s pretty cool though
a named hunter
Supposedly, if he kills you in the Shade bounty, "Jones" is the name that appears in the killlog.
oh damn
The hunter refused to engage me in glorious combat, so I can't personally confirm this.
why was he named in the agent edwards one but not in the bounty though?
He wasn't named in the Agent Edwards mission, either.
It says Unknown you egg.
ah its ok
thats big though
a hunter that has a name
i would classify yellow barred hunters with no name just harder normal enemies, having a name is pretty huge story wise
yep
The Agent Edwards Support Hunter is called "Bear" by the community.
why?
No idea.
probably because of the military tattoo links
However, that Hunter, and the one in the Shade bounty are different. They're armed with different equipment.
yep
Doesn't prove they're different though. Dude could've just swapped out gear.
Either way, it's still big, you're right. It's only like the 2nd time a Hunter has shown up in a real "canon" situation other than Survival, where they aren't mentioned.
yep
I killed him so i wonder if he shows up again at some point (if so the should made him unkilleble)
Maybe he had a issue with faye lau from way back and now is comming for her and like us has to start from the bottow to get rid of the lose ends
chasing him down like the bloodhound you are doesnt make him not unkillable, the fact he runs away does, that means you arent suppose to kill him like the stalkers
Then he was just to slow🤣
Oh well maybe he had a revive hive on him so he should be ok

Well he wasnt that tanky to begin with...
Altho i did had ND on and was close to full stacks so over 200% CHD and foam naded him..... So he was doomed
so uh, can you not do anything about the castle settlement?
pick up a broom and clean all of that biological material
people... is it normal that random hunter spawned in bounty mission?
Yes
they are hunting you, so i guess?
Lots of players had that Hunter show up in Shade bounty mission
okay thanks. cause we just got it spawned and was like "WTF?!"
Yeah one spawned for me too
Didn't get a glimpse of him, thought he was just another elite enemy until he disappeared into the smoke
we were able to kill it, but no drop
Think it was supposed to run away
Other people have mentioned that the hunter ran and hid right as it appeared
Like it would go up somewhere behind cover and never stick its head out
i guess it happened cause we had like BIG chunk of enemies running around and thanks from cc by shock trap and fire from me. Since it happened with 2 stacks of black tusk right in the same place
and he EMP them all
Makes sense
I did the bounty with one other person through a backup request
So it was just two of us
we were 2 also. But like i run eclipse with fire + shock, and those 2 stacks of black tusk around happened
and he basically appeared in their ranks
Interesting
As I said, I didn't even really recognize it as a hunter until he disappeared
TBH I don't remember him ever actually directly attacking me
Healer for level 100?
Go to lfg
I think that hunter was there to kill the target to prevent another loose end for Bardon but we killed it's target for it
Doubt it. Bad take.
With current information, it makes no sense for Bardon to be ordering Hunters he controls to kill rogue agents he controls.
Does the hunter drop a mask?
no
So I found a 4th wall break Easter egg in the summit
So you know those SHD tech crates you find in the summit and in Liberty Island?
Well if you die to rouge SHD tech the only datapoint is a quote from Aaron keener saying ‘did you really think you could beat me?’
I like the fact that you died to some SHD tech to find that out.
Yeah well Legendary is hard
wouldn't necessarily call it a 4th wall break considering we are technically still fighting him (by proxy atleast)
the quote is unnecessary though tbh
It’s not voiced over
It’s just a quote
But that quote couldn’t of existed because you beat him
we didn't, not yet atleast
It’s more of a half-4th wall break, like with the objectives in Liberty island
we killed him sure, but we are still dealing with his plans
we are still "fighting" him
Yeah but he’s dead, so his ghost...that actually would be an explanation
His ghost is mocking the player
i did say by proxy
Well I still do think it’s an interesting piece of trivia anyway
@shy ridge Those aren't really 4th-wall breaks either.
Yeah, that’s why I said it’s like a 4th wall break
It challenges the players ideas of how the game world interacts with our view of the world
Nah, it's just Keener fucking with ISAC and trying to demoralize the agent.
^
Though if Keener is trying to tell me instead of my agent that everything is meaningless and I should give up, then he's really beating a dead horse because my depression demons already tell me that in real life and I don't need no fucking two-bit half-ass video game antagonist to tell me what's up.
oh damn
Keener chose the worst person to demoralize with you...
If it was me in the game world, that reject Saturday morning cartoon villain Keener should be very afraid because every time he fails killing me, I'm just going to get more pissed at the fact that I'm still alive because no one wants to kill me more than me.
you sound like what my Div 1 agent would be like after months of failures in New York between Div 1 and Div 2
Oh the D1 player character is totally dead at this point lmao.
I like to think that mine isn't
Faye Lau was a cripple during 99% of Div 1 and she's still alive
what prevents my hard ass player with a fully automatic LVOA-C, House, and Classified Nomad set from surviving?
mine is totally dead, i'd like to think she would've joined BT just to backstab them
Contaminated Area level 9999
shit u right
Lot of 2nd wave agents turned traitor
Unfortunately
OMG! How did YouTube miss this?! On The Summit, SHOOT all of the buckets with "the mop" shotgun and get something AWESOME at the checkpoint! (10th lvl) You Can't miss ANY of the buckets they are missing mops so this was a no brainer!
With black tusk being a thing in the game, literally invading the Washington D.C
Where in God's name is the US military
Dead I guess
by the US military i assume you mean the JTF?
which is literally the joint task force of the army, the navy, and the airforce
Dead I guess
we wouldn't of been activated if this wasn't true
that too
The JTF pulled out of Washington, leaving only the ones in the White House
yes
I need a brief synopsis of spoilers in proper chronology
I just lost 5 braincells trying to understand what you said
lmao
It didn’t matter to me coz I’m extremely accurate and get lots of headshots
Same except that I focus on Division 1
I have div 1 will start on that when this trail week ends on 2
I noticed that even with low level weapons if I get two headshots they die
Like even if they’re like 20-30 levels higher
I started yesterday I’m at 11 I think
In div 1?
2
dam
I already finished the easy achievements with my other account
All high ends, gear sets, and exotics
Main acc one I’m trying a drone plus enemy scan thing
I’ll get on div 1 tomorrow once this free week closes
a high end shotgun that does 139 thousand damage lmao
Add me we play together
Div 1 is cross plat right?
Nah
No crossplay
PC?
Xbox
He’s Xbox
I'm in school but im on discord right now lol
Or does it sync with consoles?
idk
nothing syncs with consoles
Add me back? (discord) @wicked crest
Ubi club?
Yep
I can't get on my xbox until like 1:15
Because I have school which absolutely sucks
Ubiclub is really convenient coz u can see the psn and Xbox ID too
to answer you net, i think that the bardon manhunt is gonna be in the summit after the hunters
im just not sure how sokolova ties into this
No its in Coney island
U fight him in coney island, A hunter chases both of you through coney island and they are teamed up.
datamine?
;)
thats interesting
btw if you know how to datamine, do tell because we could use some info for a division spreadsheet
Oh I saw that same thing from a reddit post
Agent Manhunt Locations for Season Three
Shade = Two Bridges {Bounty} (Comes with a hunter)
Wraith = Judiciary Square {Bounty} (Comes with a hunter)
Dusk = Southwest {Bounty} (Comes with a hunter)
Belfrey = West End {Bounty} (Comes with a hunter that is apparently "Chasing her")
Schaeffer = Coney Island {Mission} (Teams with a hunter)
Coney Island Hunter = Coney Island (Part of the mission)
TL:DL version of those audio files are, Black Tusk is confirmed to be working with hunters. All agents and Schaeffer are working with and or being chased by hunters. But the hunters chasing them are being put on Black Tusk payroll. We have a new name, Natalia Sokolova. Appears to either be Schaeffers boss which was already found out a couple days ago. And last but not least, Faye Lau is getting a job propisition to work with the president.
OH shoot WHAT
Uhh
So, if this isn't a red herring and hasn't been changed since the leak
Sounds like BT has decided to get rid of Schaeffer and BTSU in general.
Doesn't seem like it. They are too important.
it's easier to tail someone working with someone instead of the actual target, bardon may be marked because of his deals though
If they're so important, why is BT hiring Hunters to hunt Bardon and his dumbass Rogues?
i don't agree its BT but the reason for "going after them" is because of the rogues
what the datamine implies could give hunters another reason for going after the shd besides "just because" but i don't believe it at all till we get more evidence
it tremendously undermines the character/faction of them set so far
My question is more about why they cooperate with each other more than who betrays or abandoned who in general. Like, they are so.... philosophically wrong to each other they probably will start shooting each other
Immediately
also there is this question, Why does the BTSU exist when a unit like the hunters also does "for the black tusk"
😑 the datamine when a question like that exists just screams "this was player made"
maybe another push to link them to bodark and the russians
If u want I can send u the audio files that confirm it, But BT are most likely working internationally
@humble coral why who cooperate?
If you mean the rogues, I can answer that. If you mean the Hunters or BT, I can't.
@cold bramble I agree Tbh. This has real "big if true" vibes and if it's true, it kinda makes the Hunters out to be kinda weaksauce.
They go from walking grim reaper death machines to lapdog bitches of Black Tusk that are so morally bankrupt they have no issues killing their own if told to do so.
The mission seems to be you chasing Schaeffer around Coney Island with rikers all around, Hunters intercept the mission and mow down the rikers, Goto Schaeffer and team with BT.
Seems to me more than one, maybe 3 or 4. and the one that teams up with BT being the 5th.
@cold bramble If u were talking about the hunters
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Theres a hunter which each rogue agent so. Im not terribly suprised seeing as they fought along side all 4 of the rogue agents.
I mean if us tailing shade gets us a step closer to Bardon. I can see black tusk taking her off the table being a reasonable thing to do.
Can I have the audio file?
https://imgur.com/a/91BRFLc keener looking for a medkit
what do you guys think hunters are 3rd wave or spetznaz because i know they do speak russian
i think theyre cool peeps hwo are just missunderstood and just want hugs and cuddles next to the fireplace
I am so upset
I got to floor 100 finally and was doing really well then we all died and I had to leave
shit so sorry dood
Like I would have few complaints if you guys didn’t spam disrupt so much. It’s really annoying.
Like lower the spam if that and it would be fine. But given that I’m talking to one hopefully you guys will listen
are you talking about the hunters and how they spam disrupt because there are ways of resisting that as a whole
tactical link in the tactician tree is a good start
Thanks for the advice
np
MJ: "Hold up, time out."
Hunters: stop shooting. "Yeah bro, what's up?"
MJ: "Can you stop spamming disrupt? It makes this difficult."
Hunters: "Oh shit, sorry bro, our bad. We still cool?"
MJ: "Yeah we cool. Okay, game on."
Damn I wish
Imagine if this game was like fallout and you could just convince the enemies to not fight you with a speech check
Just put a bucket over their head and walk by
@steel radish do you have an audio file of those hunter quotes?
It isn’t audio file
It’s when they kill you and you inspect
I never heard them speak actually
Never will
@round sinew so you think 
They won't waste the time
truth
So, in the liberty island ferry cutscene, if you look on the left side of the screen, it says MAX SCHAEFFER. Not Bardon, MAX. Unless that's his fake name or its a family member. Because we know that there's a boss to Bardon Schaeffer, as seen in an ECHO in DC.
that might be his dad
and if it is then his dad might be the leader of black tusk but that's a huge stretch, because bt probably wouldn't have neoptism
I do hate how Rogue agents tend to just W key you constantly
Like they just go full fucking send
W Key?
Means they rush you
xd
Ah
its so FUCKING annoying
like when u get 6 of the cunts spawning
n they think yoooooooo lemme just push this mf 😳
but no my tank shield and godroll famas is just useless
but its okay i dont mind dying
drip hunter escaped, how do i get his mask?
Gotta log out and redo the Drip
Can we not use the c-word please?
ight
I don’t really post in this server but I keep listening to a Agent Kelso audio log named “Psych Assessment” and the second division person talking in it sounds like the unknown Black Tusk voice in their audio logs. Don’t know if it’s been discussed before or just a reused voice actor or something 🤷♂️
how the hell are you meant to win against keener
ive been fighting him for like 2 hours
You kill him before he has a chance to hack your skills.
Trying to stretch that battle out is possible, but it's way more upsetting to attempt.
Or have a reassigned chest piece, get shock ammo. Whenever he’s about to do something shock him
i almost broke my controller fighting keener
first time keener was torture, yeah
i never wanna fight that piece of shit again
what if i said you have to in order to kill Shade
i dont really do the manhunts
Then it wouldn't matter, lucky you!
but it wasn't nearly as hard tbh, now that i'm in an actual build unlike at story end
yeah you can go into the fight with a real build instead of shit you jus found
i pretty much mained the police M4 the entire warlords campaign
then i found a decent LMG to use
Keener this time felt like bullying on my part compared to the last time.
I feel like the story difficulty missions are easier than when I first played them? Like in general, it feels like they have less adds.
@round sinew because it’s an even easier difficulty level than normal, so it will have even less adds with even less hp. Essentially just shooting cardboard with a .50 cal
I feel like Normal replayed is easier than the story difficulty the first time through, though.
Update: Finally killed all the hunters and beat the summit 🙂
now i just have to go get Ridgeway's Pride
nice
Oh wow. Me and my buddies are on 30 rn.
the Aaron keener mission of WoNy is a collection of everything i hate. the razorback, marauder and hounds >:C
Liberty Island might have been hard and too frustrating for some people during release month, but there isn't an excuse to be hard as of this time
?
a: this is my first run of it
b: im just saying what i hate is all collected in 1 mission
i never said it was hard
i did struggle a few times on keener himself
We don’t talk about the Pentagon missions here.
who the fuck are the little loot goblins that spawn randomly
when you shoot their pack it gives you loot
You just answered it
loot goblins?
Yea
lol
whattt this is real?? Lol loot goblins😂 what have I walked into XD
they come from the christmas event
dropped a dope chicago typewriter
that shot snowballs
but that was before new york so the sleigher is lvl 30 and useless
Not really much more useless than it was before
The sleigher is the worst
I had it in my stash for ages before i got level 30 finaly got to use it and well
yo what's the difference between a rogue agent and a hunter because they sound like the same thing
They're not literally loot goblins... they're from the underground fraction xD
Hunters are non named enemies spawned through specific ways, award masks and are generally a lot stronger
Rogues are random encounters in activities and drop named items
Also their lore is different for now.
Rogue agents are SHD agents just like you but at some point they decided to turn traitor for X reason. Which immediately makes them all bad guys no matter what and the punishment is death. Don't question it.
Hunters are... Something else. But they don't like you so that's enough reason to kill them.
@round sinew to be fair, even though you can be marked rogue for harmless reasons, many of the Rogues in the manhunt have done some seriously fucked up shit. It would be pretty safe to assume that the random Rogues we encounter have their fair share of crimes.
Meh
I know it’s probably because they’re named enemies
But they’re also yellow
So who knows
So im not sure if anyone else has noticed but Memento has a bit of a Story to tell, not from the Inscription but rather the watches on it. If you're under the right Lighting, And wearing the Hunter themed Apparel, You will notice the difference between the watches on your apparel items to those of Momento, Because they are red.
Not to mention But who shows up while your on the bounty for Shade? A Hunter.
Are you suggesting they only hunt rogues?
No
No, Not by a long shot because the apparel gear shows Orange watches. I think that one theory about them being the Clean up crew or Third wave may hit home
He's suggesting Memento is a weapon confirming hunters take delight in collecting the heads of Rogue agents.
Yes and No.
I type slow lmao
I think the Hunters are a
"Third Wave" that were trained to Hunt Any and All Division agents, Rogue or Not Rogue.
Yeah. I brought that up a few days ago.
We all just talk in circles around each other lol
Frankly the whole wave system just seems flawed.
Lol yeah but its fun to fantasize about their Purpose and their Motives
And is there differences between the waves?
Is the 2nd wave meant to be better or worse than the first
Waves mean nothing outside the first game tbh
Or is it just a case of having people in reserve
Well its a really Really long story
So, Essentially, The First wave of agents, Typically the ones we hear about in The Division had gone "MIA" (Later confirmed to either be Rogue or Dead)
Due to them being considered MIA the Division commanders send in The Second Wave to Investigate what is going on in New York with all the MIA (Rogue/Dead) Agents. and they learn of the betrayal of most of the First wave, keep in mind that the Government is watching this all through the data streams through ISAC.
So the theory is that During the Discovery of the First Wave's action the remaining Government decides to make an Unknown Third wave that neither of the first two know anything of, and These Third Wave agents are kitted out to Kill any and all Active duty and Rogue agents on sight. and the gear these Hunter's have make this a Very compelling theory but its just that, A theory.
But there are many theories out there for who the Hunter's are and what they motive is
Isn't the government more or less dead by this point
A game theory
To be fair, the 1st wave was outright unprepared for the chaos of New York City.
It's pretty much established that, out of the ones who survived, they were caught in the Dark Zone and left behind.
And then the 2nd Wave was basically destroyed in a single blow.
Iirc canon is/was the entire 2nd Wave was destroyed when the helo was shot down, leaving only Faye Lau and the 1-4 Player Characters left alive,
Granted, by the time of Division 2, waves don't matter as they're specifically a NYC thing. And since then, with the comics and books, it's established that SHD agents routinely travel around to different areas depending on needs.
Tbh I wish there was some explanation for where the D1 PC/PCs are.
Since by Division 2 WONY, there's basically no loyal agents left in NYC.
Where'd the 1-4 Agent team in NYC go? Did they die? Did they go rogue? Did they get transferred?
I can't see them leaving Faye alone in NYC. So I doubt they were transferred.
I also doubt they went rogue after all the shit the PC deals with in D1 and the 1-4 agent team goes through in the special operations.
So I think the best assumption is the 1-4 agents left in NYC have died between Division and Division WONY
If Most of the 2nd wave was in the chopper, why was the 2nd wave so damn small compared to the first, going by how many rogues there are.
Just to clarify the end of aaron keener manhunt, why was blacktusk trying to kill him? Something about network that aaron keener made?
from what i know, keener used the BT to establish the rogue network somehow, and bardon hates agents and rogues alike, and was pretty mad about keener using him for his own shit
BT?
ah, okay
And what is the canon explanation for the aaron keener's watch?
Is it black tusk tech?
its repurposed division tech
ISAC is for division and orange, and apparently he created ANNA for the rogues, which is red
with the help of theo parnell or something
got it
Schaeffer was trying to get Keener because Keener fucked Black Tusk over.
Anyone have theories regarding Natalia Solokovia? (With or without the context of story leaks)
Black tusk turned on keener because he played them like puppets on Coney Island
@terse ginkgo I think she's a shareholder of BT.
And also likely the daughter of the Sokolov Concern founder.
puppet would imply they had power to begin with
Keener pissed off the black tusk at Coney Island
so quick question! did keener have a spouse? or was he a single pringle?
He was married twice, but divorced in both marriages
Ahh got it! ty!
The black Tusk, along with the Rogue agents, managed to convince hunters to be helpers in their plans? 
I never really saw Hunters as a single faction, to me they're more like rando's who went crazy and set up Saw-level puzzles.
especially going off how they were in Underground.
Hunters also hunt Rogues, right? Perhaps there is a guild. And this guild, some must have betrayed them, and become Black Tusk's allies, or some Rogue agents. 
I would put my Eagle Bearer on the line to bet that Hunter's aren't aligned with Tusk. Tusk are as dumb as LMB were.
Hunters aren't exactly trying to take over the world, just live in their corner of it. You can see that with Ghost, for example. He only fights you after you salute the fallen. It's a mark of respect.
But there must be some reason why they are looking for agents to hunt. There is no other person's desire to do something unimaginable.
Or, if they are won from something.
They went crazy, just like plenty of people did after the world ended.
I wouldn't exactly call it sane to mark out separate window panels and lie in wait for months for someone to come along and stumble upon your puzzle.
i wouldn't put the puzzle aspect of hunters as part of their lore, its more of gameplay created like our survivability towards pretty much anything
I think it's an issue to ignore any aspect of a character, when the only way that we have to interact with them are those puzzles.
We could go purely off the Underground Hunters.
Are you ready to explain how we can survive things other agents can't without using "plotarmor" as an excuse?
Yeah easily: we aren't NPC's who have back stories. We are blank slates who seemingly have 0 personality.
We are empty paintings.
definition of plot armor
So, in my small and never stated thesis: Hunters, they are ancient agents, lunatic and thirsty for blood and revenge, who live in an isolated guild. 
The Agent you make doesn't get happy or sad over an event, you can RP it if you like but that doesn't make it plot-true.
us being called "The Sherriff" is the most personality we get over the entire timeline of Div2.
We're just referred to as "Agent" and "Sherriff"
I think it's there so you can make up a story that you like about your agent
oh sure, but my point is that it's not exact canon. If anything we exist in kinda a loose "eh" area. I don't think the place we start Div2 at (pre DC) even gets name dropped.
I'm fairly sure 'Tusk showed up there as we ran off, but that's it.
is that ever gonna be brought up again, do we know? We kinda abandoned someone who was seemingly a friend of ours.
Hell, make them a warlord or something. Would tie it off.
She is alive I think, if I'm right she was brought back in the Pentagon expansion
😑
Uh, that's the first time I'm hearing about that. You sure?
I think so
I made a new char a week ago and didn't recognise her in Pentagon.
Name?
Agent Sanders
Was it ever mentioned in-game that she was a friend of yours? I don't recall that at all.
Oh good, another butchered plot-point. I swear it's a drinking game by this point.
Ta for finding out, although now I'm actually way more pissed than I was if we just forgot her.
I'd rather her be a rogue
I'd rather they re-do WONY so its less dumb.
I feel like div1 was a waste now. All my effort in that game were undone without even a cutscene.
Yeah
That was a pleasure to read. Thanks @west patio @ashen jungle 
i noticed that the hunter masks in the summit are reused from the ones in new york and dc
Anyone have a conspiracy theory linking Cassie Mendoza and Colonel Morzova
spoil the game as briefly as u can
@wicked crest like Covid but worse. Murica thinks guns will handle it.
Nah, just america being its scummy evil filthy manifest destiny self
But in covid
🤣
Trump already nearly dead
And black lives matter more than covid lives
U mentioned america
uhh
yes because the SHD is murica based
I'm on the cleaners side
Kizz.. What the fuck?
a PMC destroys communications for a government group, things happen, peace briefly returns, agents left in NY sends out SOS, things happen, Keener outsmarts us again, here we are
I wouldn't call it organized
DW toxic, kizz clearly doesn't know a lot about the lore if he thinks cleaners are sane.
yeah
Every side thinks they're right
hes like level 9 last I checked
the strategic homeland division was supposed to be a driving force for good, a "taskforce" to get america back on track to stability in the time of a national crisis.
@ashen jungle this channel wouldn't exist if everyone paid attention kek
A secret taskforce to be deployed when the world went to shit basically
Well shd doesn't get more troops when needed
nah, i like to use it as lore speculation @cold bramble
Basically just play solo or 4 man heros
thats cause its not the military
its a taskforce trained in secret, of the best. They cant just draft people into the division dude
SHD are closer to black-ops, think more James Bond than troops.
Even the NPCs say we need more people lol
But with all the chaos after the green poison hit, and Keener turning agents of the first wave on the rest of the SHD, things went badly
do you know the deployment waves of the Division?
@ashen jungle well you are outnumbered by 'muh gameplays'
and the lore of that?
SHD are closer to black-ops, think more James Bond than troops.
Black ops just running and running in plain sight yeah right
First wave was killed or converted by Keener.
Let's try and keep it civil here.
closer to a black ops styled system
Cleaners are the most civil in the Divison world
@spare arrow actually that's not true
For the NYC divison?
Yep, not true
oh?
wasn't most of them either rogue or killed in the dark zone?
Okay so basically the Dark Zone is the reason the First Wave are mostly gone, Keener is just a by-product.
being truthful, well back to sleep
they died "trying to hold the dark zone", taken from the game.
I mean, still- Most are either Rogue, or Dead.
cause they got basically locked in the dark zone and would go rogue if they left
Sure that works, but Keener wasn't really the cause of that. He was caught up in it.
Known from Javier + Keener's logs?
Known from 100% Div1's collectibles
okay bathroom break, yall keep going.
👍
Where are the bathrooms in game never saw even one
They exist, theres no gameplay reason to keep a bathroom open usually.
Like if the game was realistic a kid died by the virus while on the break using a phone
It could've been atleast an echo
Theres no real reason to have that as an echo
echo's tell the story of the past of what shit was like or who said what.
Echos are made by footage from cameras and recreations of voice logs.
I don't think an echo would have a kid dying on the toilet on his phone
That's what am saying the past of someone takin a shit
No cameras in a toilet, i would hope.
Yeah
they are just digital recreations of conversations
thats why they are still and dont move
a simulated scenario to match the voice logs
Like "mom: get out of the loo... Kid:wait mom I gotta finish this last fortnite thing"
Some kid taking a bathroom break is just... something that happened before. It'd be a waste of disk space to have voicelines of a kid taking a shit.
There's too less humor in the games
If it was, idk, some roosevelt island quarantine type "Stay in the bathroom, all 100 of you" type stuff, i could see it.
No cameras in a toilet, i would hope.
@spare arrow Unless you're that twitch streamer.
Yea....
Theres quite a few funny lines and funny reads in the collectibles if you are just reading through them.
@wicked crest if you think there's too little humour in div2, you would've hated div1. It's a deliberately miserable experience.
Its set in a post apocalyptic America where all government has collapsed and gangs do what they want and civilians get killed. I dunno if a kid taking a shit is humor to match the game
i kinda miss that tbh
Yep definitely do
My favorite line is "Piece of shit wristwatch!"
The adult rioters getting attacked by a group of kids with baseball bats will forever take the cake.
Everyone ive played through the game with laughs at that.
I remember hearing a cleaner yell out once. Something like "Son of a bitch, why dont we have shields like that!"
That's a far cry copy
woosh
what?
okay anyway, yeah div2 is definitely more audience friendly.
which is good for longevity.
yeah
Fc3 yep the negs say that stuff about us
Its much nicer, atleast.
thats cause everyone has taken the time to somewhat get used to it
in div1 its still pretty recent and nobody knows how to cope
i mean, all factions have stuff like "WHY DO THEY HAVE GOOD STUFF WE DONT HAVE GOOD STUFF"
Div 2 is much more sunny
cause its set in summer
i do love the weather effects in div2, fog is a great addition.
Div 1 is set in winter if you couldn't tell already
Meant like ambience and game mood
oh yeah, have you ever gotten a sandstorm?
Div 1 is gloomy
the red sandstorms are awesome
Ac3 still has best weather of all ubi games
eh
games with older tech dont age as well.
I mean its good weather system, but its by far the best tbh.
Remastered
ac3 wasnt exactly ground breaking when it came to engines.
I havent played many games with weather tech, but AC3 wasnt... the best with its weather system
I mean the remaster wasn't all bad
Remastered
@wicked crest
they just made everything look like clay
You dont even have a GPU, who are you to talk.
P40 24gb vram
youre looking at it through rose-tinted glasses I think. The game looks like pants now.
Its not my system. The graphics are pretty, smooth to say the least
this is kinda getting away from spoilers i feel
Like looking at a side by side comparison is pretty obvious the textures got mucked around a bit
yeah how did we start talking about ac3
comparing weather systems
well thats just a blatant lie lol
There is dude
Div1 was already pushing the texturemapping, Div2 is using similar tech in that way
Almost seems like Bardon'll get replaced, but i have no clue so far.
They should enable rt for div 2
i know the next manhunt is supposed to be against the head of 'Tusk, but thats it
Head of BTSU? or head of BT straight out?
I heard through some guys a week ago that Faye Lau will be joining Black Tusk
I'd bet BTSU, if they kill off Black Tusk entirely the game needs a new enemy force.
Did she get back her eye?
you dont.....get back eyes lol.
why would she get her eye back?
Like some advanced tech
it got fuckin blown away
Yea, maybe we'll get a different invading force look... one can hope
div1 opening yea
man she was messed up back then
like... its gone. Gone gone. hella gone.
Not getting that shit back
she was in bandages in an eternal winter, id say Lau has a right to be angry.
couldn't even fight or anything
im considering joining her, seeing as NYC kinda felt like a waste in WONY
the only tech advances we are seeing is cleaners and fire, BTSU using Darpa labs equipment, and agents upgrading gear... somehow
Well atleast she can get half the action view
no depth perception tho
....People with one eye still see a full picture
she can take over flying the Planet Express.
They should add some sexy elements as a dlc
why
They just lose depth perception.
just, why.
What?
oh sure, Faye can be in a cocktail dress and Keener is a mankini
gotta make it even
I'd pay to see keener in a mankini.
R6 had some funky stuff
actually forget the dress, Faye as normal, keener still in a mankini. Turn it into a reverse Arkham game.
Not really?
Div can too
I bet you just looked at IQ's ass when you queue for a match lol
we need some balancing out here. What other male character should be in skimpy clothing. Hmm.
R6 had like... Dokk in tactical yoga pants and Iq in skinny jeans, but... ?
I vote Ortega in chaps.
What's in the rectangular canister
paul rhodes in a mini-swimsuit, our agent in a wetsuit, Beach episode of div2
i'd be up for that
cleaner in floaties, bathing in gasoline
instead of fire they are just shooting waterguns...
perfection
10/10
its like that pool party pyro taunt from tf2
Divison Paintball
it was meant to be fire, but Kelso swapped it out at the last second for Spice.
make it lore-friendly.
would have gotten away with it, if it werent for kelso...
and her meddling Warhound.
Scooby doo canine
youre trying Kizzy, thats all that matters.
aha
also wtf happened to kelso's watch? didnt it get busted in one of the story missions? it ever get fixed?
it must've
Considering the excess tech we found in Darpa, im betting we gave her like 30 spare ones.
i wish that stuff would come up more.
id pay to make armour out of excess SHD shields for the JTF.
oh same
Massive, i think we found your next DLC
Did we ever see the agent watch in darpa? i know we see the backpack part, but do we ever see the watch?
"DARPA raid"
we saw a lot but not everything, considering there was a lot of the lab we never went through I think it's safe to say all of our tech was in there.
we see most of the skills. striker turret and drone, Warhound and Minitank, Pulse and Hives, but never a watch....
Yea thats probably it.
We see scaled up versions of most of it
or scaled down that they were working on making bigger
Scaled up or blueprints of it
probably
yeah i replayed it like 2 days ago lol, went on a photo tour.
its still one of my favorite looking missions
just because theres SO MUCH TO LOOK At
that plant infested room in the Pentagon is possibly the prettiest area in either of the div games,.
I hate the pentagon missions with the passion. Yet i love them so much
heavy tLoU vibes.
yeah, i do like that room
how can you hate a giant drone as a boss? its better than another dude in armour.
I hate and love it at the same time
I remember both missions being a fucking bitch too fight for the first time
it do be like that sometimes...
the first time i did that fight i was solo and using an SMG. i wanted to die.
my friend ran those missions before i did so he was like HAHAH YOU FINNA HATE THIS PART
you know how bad that fight is when you have no range?
you remember when the room goes red and some heavy minigun guy steps out and theres 4 jammers on all sides?
that was badass
I pretty much shit myself. I had to solo that while my friend was downed. Took me around 5 minutes of cat and mouse holy shit
i dont know if i should even admit this, but my version of that fight didnt.....my skills still worked the whole time.
whaat
oh its been fine ever since, worked as intended, just my Story completion of it glitched out.
so that fight was nowhere near as hard.
i was running a skill build at the time. Made my life hell for the 5 minutes that the jammers were up
Same, 5 minutes of cat and mouse
i did wonder at the time if something was supposed to happen.
imagine open world events with those agent killing EMP's
that would be awesome
I'd love more open world events
i guess lore-wise it wouldnt make sense since the point of that mission is we stopped it.
I dont think Summit counts, before someone says it.
yeah no I dont think it would count
I'm more interested to see more of this manhunt's audio logs, especially concerning Natalia Sokolova and how Faye Lau might play into the role of things once Bardon is out of the picture
I doubt the summit fits into lore much
Like how underground and resistance hunters didn’t really fit into lore
yep
plus the summit masks hunter masks are reused from previous hunters
so it can't fit into the lore
you'd think after seeing a group of 4 people literally clear an entire skyscraper the "bad guys" in Washington and new york would stop trying to kill you, and yet they still do. truly baffling what determination can push people to do.