#division-universe | Tom Clancy's The Division | Page 80

static bay Jun 15, 2020, 3:10 PM

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I mean yeah it's pretty ominous but after a hundred or so missiles launched by every single conceivable villian it gets kind of old. Sort how downtown Manhattan has been destroyed in a million superhero movies. Sure there's hundreds of deaths but god, just do something different for once

low mural Jun 15, 2020, 8:39 PM

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Right so let’s launch 2 missiles instead

halcyon iron Jun 15, 2020, 9:25 PM

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thats kinda why im hoping eclipse ends up being something

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a virus that can kill in seconds has potential

twilit lodge Jun 15, 2020, 9:43 PM

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why doesn't twitch work?

sleek osprey Jun 15, 2020, 11:09 PM

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Spoiler for TU10 ||CC Builds Fuckin Die||

grizzled flint Jun 16, 2020, 2:10 AM

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Lol

cold bramble Jun 16, 2020, 4:17 AM

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:(

shell frigate Jun 16, 2020, 6:07 AM

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they were alive?

flat cairn Jun 16, 2020, 3:35 PM

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got the mask from foundry bulwark gear set / Aaron Keener Endgame on the Ferry where the Rogue Agents are.

fast steppe Jun 16, 2020, 3:42 PM

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You're not ment to be able to get foundry bulwarl yet, it's raid exclusive

flat cairn Jun 16, 2020, 3:43 PM

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I think some items are not raid exclusive ?

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BTW to double confirm that FB/FI is intended to drop outside of raid.
Just to clarify: pieces of the Foundry Bulwark/Future Initiative sets dropping outside of the Raid is intended.
Only the Backpack and Chest pieces (those with Talents) are exclusive drops from Operation Iron Horse.

fast steppe Jun 16, 2020, 3:45 PM

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Foundry Bulwark (Operation Iron Horse)
That's it's description in the patch notes

final raven Jun 16, 2020, 3:47 PM

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whats with the eclipse virus/ outcast dialogue between Keener and Hornet

fast steppe Jun 16, 2020, 3:48 PM

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A new virus they're making I think

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@flat cairn yeh your right sorry, just saw it was recently posted on the forums

glad wren Jun 16, 2020, 4:06 PM

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Keener already developed the virus and tried to launch a missile that contained it (see Liberty Island mission)

flat cairn Jun 16, 2020, 4:13 PM

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@fast steppe no Problem wondering where the other pieces without Raid whould drop

low mural Jun 16, 2020, 5:40 PM

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@cold bramble only the set items except backpack and Chest I think

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Bp and chest is raid exclusive I think

spiral turtle Jun 16, 2020, 6:35 PM

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Those voice lines between Keener and Hornet are interesting

glad spruce Jun 16, 2020, 9:04 PM

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Where did you guys find those voice lines?

fallen elk Jun 16, 2020, 9:29 PM

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They are random. I was standing in the haven in NY and got "incoming transmission" or something, and there were a dialogue between Keener and hornet.@glad spruce

somber isle Jun 17, 2020, 2:27 AM

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How you get the Mantis?

low mural Jun 17, 2020, 2:30 AM

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@somber isle target loot farming

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Go do MMRs

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It will also be in seasons once it unlocks

lone salmon Jun 17, 2020, 6:29 AM

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The fact that True Sons accumulated enough resources to make themselves an armored train is nuts

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Guess they got an endless supply of steel

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We keep grabbing it from 'em but seems like it's not enough lol

tough sentinel Jun 17, 2020, 6:41 AM

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Ummm... did they mean to put the Foundry Bulwark in game yet? Just picked up gloves and mask.

lone salmon Jun 17, 2020, 6:45 AM

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@tough sentinel chest and backpack are raid exclusive

tough sentinel Jun 17, 2020, 6:46 AM

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Ah gotcha

sinful wharf Jun 17, 2020, 9:35 AM

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Is it confirmed that Mantis and Vile are actually dropping from target loot missions ?

low mural Jun 17, 2020, 1:57 PM

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@sinful wharf yea

trail tartan Jun 17, 2020, 5:35 PM

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@low mural proof?

low mural Jun 17, 2020, 5:52 PM

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@trail tartan I didn’t personally get it myself, but other ppl here claim they’ve Ben getting them, ask them for proof

halcyon iron Jun 17, 2020, 7:19 PM

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its related to how people got all the season 2 rewards immediately after buying the season 2 pass

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the SoTG talks about it a bit

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because the game thinks you are already season 2 level 100, and the exotic only drops in the world after you reach the level where the exotic drops in the reward track

unreal willow Jun 17, 2020, 9:42 PM

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https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/-jpmOCQomuWwxPm2z3X6nl7DnpRUtkg0ZZZju3jIjLU/https/i.imgur.com/as4fjrRh.jpg

round sinew Jun 18, 2020, 3:07 AM

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So who's the black guy for Season 2?

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Oh.

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||It's Hornet? What a fucking copout. Fuck that guy and everything about him. They had so many better options than bringing some asshole back from the dead.||

static bay Jun 18, 2020, 5:30 AM

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Time to make him dead once more in that case. It's nice to have an unlikeable villian for once.

lone salmon Jun 18, 2020, 6:27 AM

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We have a hornet's nest to stamp out

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Haven't played div 1 so dunno what the guy did

wise radish Jun 18, 2020, 7:23 AM

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He was pretty much Keener right hand man

cold bramble Jun 18, 2020, 8:10 AM

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So we gonna have to find and rescue tchernenko again? And during the hornet fight will we be set up against first wave agents and whatever happened in police academy in div1?

lone salmon Jun 18, 2020, 8:33 AM

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Welp, Parnell's dead

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You guys are right, kid didn't have to die

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Fun fight tho

static bay Jun 18, 2020, 9:25 AM

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Yeah he had a point, what a waste

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As Agent Kelso once said, " What a fucking waste"

glad spruce Jun 18, 2020, 2:09 PM

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@cold bramble No, we rescued Tchernenko in Coney Island. He's nice and cozy in D.C

cold bramble Jun 18, 2020, 7:34 PM

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we dont know yet what the phoenix down stuff looks like right?

spiral turtle Jun 18, 2020, 8:36 PM

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based on the way division gameplay works, hornet still being alive is actually fine

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because keener apparently came all the way back to revive him

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and in this game you can dump 6 mags into someone and all it takes is a little shock to bring them back

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petter

cold bramble Jun 18, 2020, 9:54 PM

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ppl are just zombies and dont now it yet lmao

cold bramble Jun 18, 2020, 10:43 PM

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in the world of division you can just get a health boost by someone shouting at you

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more specifically rikers

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i just hate the fact that the medic can give a green health boost when reviving them

low mural Jun 18, 2020, 10:46 PM

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@cold bramble riker lieutenants give health boost just by existing

static bay Jun 18, 2020, 11:04 PM

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^I actually cannot tell if that is a joke

low mural Jun 18, 2020, 11:09 PM

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Heh @static bay it ain’t bro that’s why they are so annoying, I always focus on them first

static bay Jun 18, 2020, 11:10 PM

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Wellllllll that explains why I never see them giving the overheal, FFS

spiral turtle Jun 19, 2020, 12:41 AM

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Just thought if something interesting off the top of my head. A bit of a theory/personal thoughts.

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If you lived in the world of the Division 2, but you were not recruited/have any knowledge of the division or their goals, what current enemy faction’s ideals do you agree with most and would join and why?

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For me it would be True Sons because they seem to have somewhat of a good mission for what they wanted to do. They are very well put together (for the most part). I feel like they are the almost “wannabe good guys”.

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I guess my second would be Black Tusk but that’s another story

round sinew Jun 19, 2020, 12:48 AM

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Probably LMB.

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Unless some outside factor circumstantially forced me into another militia.

spiral turtle Jun 19, 2020, 12:49 AM

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I’m leaning more into the world of division 2 @round sinew

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Didn’t clarify that

round sinew Jun 19, 2020, 12:50 AM

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Ah. Then probably none of them. Again, barring some exessive circumstances like being part of the big quarantine, or having a gun put against my head. They're all kinda fucked.

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Cleaners Tbh have become more moderate, but are still fanatical.

Outcasts are what Cleaners used to be like in the fanatic department, just on the opposite end of the spectrum.

True Sons massacre and torture unarmed civilians.

Hyenas are just a gang, but ironically enough, they have a solid governing structure in that, before SHD wipes them out, they have a democratic governing council.

spiral turtle Jun 19, 2020, 12:53 AM

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I almost feel bad for the True Sons though

round sinew Jun 19, 2020, 12:54 AM

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If I have to choose, then I'll pick the organized crime family over American Nazis and American Al-Qaeda.

spiral turtle Jun 19, 2020, 12:54 AM

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Because a lot of what they are doing came from Ridgeway going bad and wanting revenge

round sinew Jun 19, 2020, 12:54 AM

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Yeah, well. They actively choose to serve Ridgeway.

spiral turtle Jun 19, 2020, 12:54 AM

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True

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But then again, if they don’t serve him they are fucked

round sinew Jun 19, 2020, 12:55 AM

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They went so far as to rebel and break him out of prison and kill their own because they got in the way.

spiral turtle Jun 19, 2020, 12:55 AM

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So it’s kinda a lose lose for them

round sinew Jun 19, 2020, 12:55 AM

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Yeah

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At least in the Hyenas, you aren't killed for disagreeing.

spiral turtle Jun 19, 2020, 12:56 AM

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Because if you remember from air and space museum that sniper that let you in and ran away knew they were fucked up

round sinew Jun 19, 2020, 12:56 AM

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You're only killed if you break their laws. Like any gang.

spiral turtle Jun 19, 2020, 12:56 AM

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And needed to get out while she could

round sinew Jun 19, 2020, 12:56 AM

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Right. In the comics, there's a former :not:True Sons that gets executed by his own people for bailing in Phillie.

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At least in the Hyenas, I can speak my mind and have some freedom. A lot of the Hyenas are fucked up people, but they have the capability to not be a bad group.

spiral turtle Jun 19, 2020, 12:58 AM

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True

round sinew Jun 19, 2020, 12:58 AM

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In the True Sons or Outcasts, breaking ranks is death.

spiral turtle Jun 19, 2020, 12:59 AM

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If Black Tusk had a more legitimate mission other than Bardon and his higher up (the unknown “Boss”) making them act like warmongering douchebags than I would probably choose them

round sinew Jun 19, 2020, 12:59 AM

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The hyenas can simply vote and not be evil anymore by enacting new rules

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Black Tusk's mission is just True Sons or LMB but on a larger scale

spiral turtle Jun 19, 2020, 1:00 AM

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And a fuckton more organized

lone salmon Jun 19, 2020, 1:05 AM

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Sometimes you gotta take a step back and just kinda examine the world of Division as a whole

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This channel is honestly great for that

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Bit of a haven for those remotely interested in the story

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As time goes on, you really do feel like a bit of a headless chicken

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Just almost blindly following orders without fail

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Parnell is the first one to truly question that

round sinew Jun 19, 2020, 2:35 AM

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I can't wait to see Hornet's angle

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I can only assume he got even more loyal to Keener after SHD fucked him up at the consulate.

glad spruce Jun 19, 2020, 7:27 PM

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So, it looks like TU10 does bring up the remaining audio logs for Keener/Dragov/Conley. The ones involving Keener are the mosti nteresting

spiral turtle Jun 19, 2020, 9:19 PM

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Where do you find them

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Cause I’ve only heard the 3 from keener/hornet

craggy pike Jun 19, 2020, 9:29 PM

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as i completed the invaded missions upon the TU10 update comms about hornet and keener started playing

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there were only 3 that played

glad spruce Jun 19, 2020, 10:00 PM

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You find em on NYC. I guess they got added in TU10, since one of Keener's comms were in the final area of Liberty Island mission

spiral turtle Jun 19, 2020, 10:14 PM

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Ah so they come from the replaying each rogue’s mission

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Got it

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The keener/hornet ones just come from leveling I believe. Kinda like the intro to the season

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Since they are not stored anywhere in the collectibles

glad spruce Jun 20, 2020, 1:55 AM

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Actually, the last audio logs for Conley and Dragov come from exploring NYC.

Matter of fact, the map website have updated locations for those two: Division2map.com/nyc

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Meanwhile, Keener's psych eval audio log is in a building between Widow's Web and Pathway Park

violet nimbus Jun 20, 2020, 11:27 AM

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i saw one last Echo of Manhatten about Pleased's to Meet you Mr. President, maybe it be season 3 or 4 last echo on Liberty Island

static bay Jun 20, 2020, 9:05 PM

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I would like to invite you guys to view this Echo and CRY
https://division2map.com?locationIds=6591

cold bramble Jun 20, 2020, 9:42 PM

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@static bay what’s up with the echo?

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Ok now I’ve seen 😭😭 ngl the son could’ve been something

spiral turtle Jun 20, 2020, 11:50 PM

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F for my guy Tim

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😔 div2wave

earnest forum Jun 21, 2020, 1:51 AM

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Whats on the echo?

round sinew Jun 21, 2020, 4:13 AM

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Remember the echos and audio logs from D1 about the superhuman?

static bay Jun 21, 2020, 8:51 AM

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Whats on the echo?
@earnest forum Something really sad

lunar night Jun 21, 2020, 11:33 AM

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||How Hornet survived being stickied bombed to death is beyond me, Rogues must've had a damn good surgeon and necromancer||

static bay Jun 21, 2020, 12:03 PM

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No need for spoiler tags here man

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Also lmao who needs SHD tech when you have BLACK MAGIC

spiral turtle Jun 21, 2020, 6:12 PM

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Nah it’s just basic game mechanics cause it’s said that he was revived by keener

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So keener just fun thing like the typical medics in the game now

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petter

round sinew Jun 21, 2020, 6:22 PM

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Hornet better not open the floodgates of enemies we've killed that come back to life.

spiral turtle Jun 21, 2020, 10:24 PM

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Operation Iron Horse in a nutshell https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHl0h6nHBNM

cold bramble Jun 21, 2020, 10:43 PM

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div2relax people can survive gunshot wounds without magic

round sinew Jun 22, 2020, 5:33 AM

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Iron Horse is gonna be stupid hard

spiral turtle Jun 22, 2020, 5:57 AM

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But also stupidly fun

wide blaze Jun 22, 2020, 7:37 AM

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I you're killed by a Hunter how long do you have to what to try again? An ingame day cycle or a real life 24hr period... ?

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*wait

wise radish Jun 22, 2020, 8:09 AM

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Well wrong channel but you do the hunter steps again. @wide blaze

static bay Jun 22, 2020, 8:28 AM

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I you're killed by a Hunter how long do you have to what to try again? An ingame day cycle or a real life 24hr period... ?
@wide blaze depends on Hunter, some can be respawned instantly

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@wise radish Here is a guide https://www.evernote.com/shard/s332/sh/325b711f-88a5-48bf-9805-1027c5d1d590/db4bc21af4310bb1a18b2eff8802c3c0

wide blaze Jun 22, 2020, 8:35 AM

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Thanks.

wise radish Jun 22, 2020, 9:23 AM

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I don't need the guide for hunter i was answering a question @static bay

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

static bay Jun 22, 2020, 9:23 AM

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OLOL

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I read it as "how do you do the hunter steps"

wise radish Jun 22, 2020, 9:24 AM

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No worries

cold bramble Jun 22, 2020, 9:35 AM

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@wide blaze depends if the hunter has locked spawn atributes, example some only spawn at night and after you shoot something, if you cant shoot tht again he dont respawn

wide blaze Jun 22, 2020, 9:39 AM

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It's Neurotic. I got him to spawn again after repeating the entire process. Just takes a good while waiting on the day/night cycle.

cold bramble Jun 22, 2020, 9:41 AM

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or you can quit session and restart maybe you get diferent time and resetd map xd

wise radish Jun 22, 2020, 10:19 AM

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Ingame time is locked to the server.

cold bramble Jun 22, 2020, 10:22 AM

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oh thts nice

sick tusk Jun 22, 2020, 2:22 PM

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efficient farming: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZuZZIe09Rw

static bay Jun 22, 2020, 2:30 PM

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Hey hate to be that guy but you can't plug your content here. You might wanna ask if anyone wants to see it and DM them instead

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Just don't want the mods to give you a warning is all, sorry man

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and yeah I can confirm that the CP makes a great loot cave. Super easy and cramped spawns, I once spent a whole night farming it

round sinew Jun 22, 2020, 3:43 PM

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Season 2 out yet, or is that tomorrow?

low mural Jun 22, 2020, 3:44 PM

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@round sinew tomorrow

round sinew Jun 22, 2020, 3:51 PM

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Ugh. I don't even really care about Iron Horse, I just wanna hunt rogues.

low mural Jun 22, 2020, 3:52 PM

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That’s what the dzs for lol

round sinew Jun 22, 2020, 4:11 PM

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I mean like the Manhunt, since it's a form of story progression

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The raids are more for bragging rights and mechanical challenge, but haven't offered any plot progression.

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The first raid in D1 hinted at stuff to come in D2, but that was it. The other D1 raids were self-contained stories. Same with the Black Tusk raid. And I bet Iron Horse will be the same since you can't really progress the True Sons story, since they're all dead.

round sinew Jun 23, 2020, 5:56 AM

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You deserved it?

static bay Jun 23, 2020, 7:44 AM

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I just got gangbanged by 5 ROGUES after a control point
@cold bramble holy C R A P

static bay Jun 23, 2020, 4:03 PM

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@lone salmon the legendary enemies are White Tusk, the polar opposite of Black Tusk. While the Black Tusk specialise in covert ops, the White Tusk specialise in "overt" ops which involve holding down a high value location

lone salmon Jun 23, 2020, 4:22 PM

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@static bay interesting, so are they part of bt or what?

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RPGs are always fond of unknown threats huh

static bay Jun 23, 2020, 4:24 PM

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Yeap. The Black Tusk is an entire organisation. The Black Tusk Special Unit are just part of that larger organisation. God knows what their resources or structure is like.

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You can be assured they have riches beyond your belief, since they can spare hundreds of warhounds and buy over the President

lone salmon Jun 23, 2020, 4:26 PM

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And can bring over a fuckton of forces too

static bay Jun 23, 2020, 4:26 PM

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On the other hand, the Black Tusk has shown that their greatest limitation is manpower. In invaded Camp White Oak, the Black Tusk sisters sent to rebuild the unit are decimated by The Division. They're almost useless against the SHD and as that guy (I think it was Schaeffer) put it, "stop sending me clowns to rebuild my unit"

lone salmon Jun 23, 2020, 4:26 PM

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I swear we've killed a good chunk of the US population by this point

static bay Jun 23, 2020, 4:27 PM

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In Manning National Zoo their desperation shows as they hold a violent initiation event where a bunch of admittedly quite powerful potential recruits fight for a place in the BTSU

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Yeah same HAHAHAHA

lone salmon Jun 23, 2020, 4:27 PM

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And of course we trashed their recruiting efforts

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White Tusk then. Manpower about the same but with significantly more advanced tech, not to mention not being secretive at all

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Made up of old LMB

static bay Jun 23, 2020, 4:29 PM

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On one hand the recruitment event was a show of desperation where the Black Tusk recruited a whole bunch of their members who were inexperienced and unprofessional and the SHD has no issue wiping them out. Unfortunately this does not translate to gameplay, where Manning has arguably some of the hardest and most dangerous squads in the entire game.

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Made up of old LMB
@lone salmon Wait for real? I keep hearing that but how do you know?

lone salmon Jun 23, 2020, 4:29 PM

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Just read that somewhere

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BT as a whole seems to be partially old LMB

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And hey, they did try their best in invaded white oak

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What with having 2 tanks at once, twice

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Well we'll kick Schaeffer to the curb soon enough

static bay Jun 23, 2020, 4:32 PM

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ahahahahaha that's true

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Schaeffer may hate the sisters but I will always appreciate their voice line

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"This is Heads, this is Tails, all targets down"

lone salmon Jun 23, 2020, 4:34 PM

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Yep, that line's surpisingly memorable

static bay Jun 23, 2020, 4:34 PM

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I love it, it's so adorably psychotic

lone salmon Jun 23, 2020, 4:34 PM

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Yep

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@static bay the entirety of wony puts you into a surprisingly poignant dilemma

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Like, you can see how the rogues have a point. almost all of them

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Yet, will you be willing to break the trust of your allies to follow a belief that might end up untrue after all?

static bay Jun 23, 2020, 4:38 PM

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Yeah I expected some stupid twist about Theo luring you into some sort of trap, but he really was running scared and there was no twist in the end

lone salmon Jun 23, 2020, 4:39 PM

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Rhodes made it very clear how he trusted us by the end of it, and it's pretty much the last ounce of trust he had for any agent.

static bay Jun 23, 2020, 4:39 PM

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Kajika was actually completely justified and I'd actually do the same thing as him

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Dragov, if I'm not wrong, just hates rich people. Same here

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Conley and Keener are just insane don't mind them

lone salmon Jun 23, 2020, 4:40 PM

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Not to mention how Dragov cares a ton for his new family

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You watched the briefing for season 2 yet?

static bay Jun 23, 2020, 4:41 PM

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surprisingly no

lone salmon Jun 23, 2020, 4:42 PM

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Yeah, head in the manhunt screen and press V

static bay Jun 23, 2020, 4:42 PM

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oh it requires being in game? Can't do that

lone salmon Jun 23, 2020, 4:42 PM

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We do get a short cinematic trailer for season 2 not long ago

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Switching topics a little: Iron Horse.

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Surprised how they still manage to still be kicking after losing their leadership.

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I suppose this detacment doesn't really care that much and still just work in the shadows

static bay Jun 23, 2020, 4:44 PM

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Yeah I mean vengeance is one thing but organisation? That doesn't come from just being mad

lone salmon Jun 23, 2020, 4:44 PM

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And apparently their supply of steel is pretty much endless even when we loot so much of it from them

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I mean, they have the resource to build an armored train for gods sake

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And I find the preview picture for the raid interesting too. DMs.

static bay Jun 23, 2020, 4:47 PM

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yeah HAHAHAHAH their steel supply is a little bit much

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it's like they are from a separate timeline where America is obsessed with steel instead of oil

glad spruce Jun 23, 2020, 5:22 PM

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I'm sure some of you already know by now, but due to localization problems, the audio for Season 2's Manhunt audio logs are not gonna be available until they fix it

round sinew Jun 23, 2020, 7:14 PM

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I don't get it.

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Jupiter was one of Keener's lieutenants, and built her team essentially to wipe out the Outcasts and stop a resurgence of the Dollar Flu.

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So why is Hornet's team storing up Eclipse virus to basically do the exact opposite of what Jupiter's team was doing?

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Did Hornet and Jupiter not communicate? Did Keener keep them in the dark about each other? What the fuck are the long term goals here?

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Also, Termite seems like an awful human being.

static bay Jun 23, 2020, 7:25 PM

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yeah my first reaction to hearing what Kelso said was just "yikes"

drifting lotus Jun 23, 2020, 7:29 PM

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Just because there is a rogue network doesn't mean that they are working to each other's bests interests. Just remember the events of liberty island and what Keener actually thought about the agents in his cell.

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I don't think most of these agents are any different either.

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in that regard.

static bay Jun 23, 2020, 7:30 PM

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ah yes Liberty Island, what a damn mess.

round sinew Jun 23, 2020, 8:34 PM

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My take, is that Jupiter and her team, for all intents and purpose, were doing their own thing as damage control. Tbh I now feel bad that they had to be rogue, because their ultimate goal seemed logical and fine.

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Hornet seems like Kylo Ren to Keener's Darth Vader. Dude's gonna finish what Keener started. Only difference is Keener's team barely trusted him, meanwhile based on the briefing, Hornet's team is fucking crazy.

pseudo cliff Jun 23, 2020, 8:41 PM

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ah yes Liberty Island, what a damn mess.
@static bay i loved how the black tusk just got so pissed off at keener that they brought in a razorback

static bay Jun 23, 2020, 8:43 PM

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ahahahaahahahahahaha yeah I only wish I could be as intimidating as Keener

round sinew Jun 23, 2020, 9:11 PM

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Not just a Razorback, didn't they send one of the mega drones, too?

static bay Jun 23, 2020, 9:22 PM

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Yeah the marauder

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"Deploy the marauder" "But sir, it's our last one" "Just do it!"

cold bramble Jun 23, 2020, 10:23 PM

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||so about hornet boss fight|| read if you must

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||so since it’ll be on tidal basin how and what way will we approach it? Will it be black tusk with us like the keener fight tryna get too hornet or outcasts? Also will the hovercrafts be there specifically the “stranded one” and will we fight on that again? If it’s outcasts not BT why couldn’t black tusk defend their own stronghold? They that weak THEY LET 1 rogue agent along with a couple hundred guys take over YOUR stronghold that consists of 4-500 elite soldiers?||

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Eh since it’s a spoiler room ima say it here

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It’s about tidal basin where the hornet boss fight takes place at

drifting lotus Jun 23, 2020, 10:49 PM

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I mean if you're solo, one agent already blows out tidal basin 😛

round sinew Jun 23, 2020, 11:30 PM

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Yeah, since it takes place after the stronghold falls, Tidal Basin is technically abandoned.

mint night Jun 24, 2020, 12:09 AM

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Manning national zoo

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Ugh really

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Kneepads tho

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You know what really could improve any build......

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@drifting lotus @static bay ^you think he’ll see it?

drifting lotus Jun 24, 2020, 12:11 AM

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Not around here 🤔

low mural Jun 24, 2020, 1:31 AM

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Surely not if you censor it || sike ||

round sinew Jun 24, 2020, 5:05 AM

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Manning national zoo isn't even that bad

tough current Jun 24, 2020, 8:08 AM

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it is on invaded

round sinew Jun 24, 2020, 11:47 PM

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Oof. Wasn't when I did it.

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Tbh I didn't know Manning national zoo had an invaded mode

low mural Jun 24, 2020, 11:48 PM

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Most missions do

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Imagine “invading” your own mission tho lol

round sinew Jun 24, 2020, 11:50 PM

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You mean like Camp White Oak?

low mural Jun 24, 2020, 11:50 PM

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Yea

round sinew Jun 24, 2020, 11:54 PM

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That was actually a good mission though.

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Manning isn't invaded on PS4

low mural Jun 25, 2020, 12:35 AM

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@round sinew weekly rotations lol

round sinew Jun 25, 2020, 12:37 AM

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I know, I just didn't know they were different for each server.

low mural Jun 25, 2020, 1:06 AM

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@round sinew not server, they’re the same for everyone

round sinew Jun 25, 2020, 1:07 AM

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huh

low mural Jun 25, 2020, 1:08 AM

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Like this week you have bank headquarters, Washington hotel, and DUS stronghold invaded, right? @round sinew

round sinew Jun 25, 2020, 1:10 AM

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Uh, I know hyena HQ and tidal basin are invaded

low mural Jun 25, 2020, 1:11 AM

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Yea

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Wait not bank headquarters

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Grad Washington hotel, viewpoint, and history museaum

round sinew Jun 25, 2020, 1:11 AM

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Man, I I wanna do manning national zoo invaded now, for the experience

low mural Jun 25, 2020, 1:11 AM

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All invaded

lone salmon Jun 25, 2020, 3:28 AM

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@static bay what did Kelso say? In the briefing?

round sinew Jun 25, 2020, 4:00 AM

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You didn't get the briefing?

lone salmon Jun 25, 2020, 4:02 AM

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I did watch it

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But prolly will have to see it again

round sinew Jun 25, 2020, 4:44 AM

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Well she didn't mention how Hornet is magically alive.

spiral turtle Jun 25, 2020, 5:26 AM

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I’ve heard of 2 theories: 1. Termite or Keener revived him 2. He was supposedly killed when the resurrection global event was active (unknown in TD1) and came back after we left the consulate

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I thought so

static bay Jun 25, 2020, 9:10 AM

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@static bay what did Kelso say? In the briefing?
@lone salmon which briefing?

lone salmon Jun 25, 2020, 9:27 AM

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@static bay eh forget it

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But what did Kelso say tho

static bay Jun 25, 2020, 9:29 AM

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@lone salmon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5nzLz0EcHY

lone salmon Jun 25, 2020, 9:33 AM

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@static bay yep that's what I meant by briefing

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Titan sounds like the most threatening of all if I were to be honest

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But hey we did see Hornet mowing down agents with a SPAS in the cinematic trailer

static bay Jun 25, 2020, 3:45 PM

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Guys in Division it's normal to go around killing hostiles in order to protect innocent civilians

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What's the name for this kind of morality, which believes that it's okay to kill other people who are killing innocents?

static bay Jun 25, 2020, 6:20 PM

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LMAO basically that but the proper name of it

round sinew Jun 25, 2020, 6:53 PM

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Vigilantism

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Except you're a government agent.

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So, patriotism

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Btw, just took on Termite. If those eclipse grenades are a thing, that'll get annoying. She's armed with shock traps and decoys, though, so she's not too big of a problem. I don't think she ever landed a shot on me.

low mural Jun 25, 2020, 7:00 PM

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“Legal contract killers “

round sinew Jun 25, 2020, 7:17 PM

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Not even that. That would assume you're more of a bounty hunter.

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And if you took a contract to kill a JTF member, you'd be marked Rogue.

static bay Jun 25, 2020, 7:25 PM

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Vigilantism
@round sinew YES thank you

round sinew Jun 25, 2020, 7:26 PM

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Eh, don't use that. Vigilantism supposes you work outside the law. SHD agents are legally entitled to execute on sight.

static bay Jun 25, 2020, 7:27 PM

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Yeah but Vigilantism is the best fit for this sort of morality

round sinew Jun 25, 2020, 7:27 PM

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The Tom Clancy universe equivalent is when Sam Fisher gets Fifth Column policy enacted in some missions to just murder anyone or anything that gets in his way with no regard for innocent casualties.

static bay Jun 25, 2020, 7:28 PM

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I'm more interested in learning about ways that people justify the killing of people seen as threats, the specifics are not too important

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I'm not actually trying to worldbuild heh

round sinew Jun 25, 2020, 7:28 PM

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Ah.

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SHD justifies it pretty clearly as "anyone attacking civilians or endangering the stability of the government is a threat to be met with deadly force."

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It's been shown in canon that abandoning civilians to get killed is a Rogue-able offense, so while SHD gives agents a lot of freedom to do as they see fit, there's very strict and hard rules in place with immediate consequences for breaking those rules.

static bay Jun 25, 2020, 7:32 PM

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ohhhhhh so that's the in-universe justification, thank you!

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But what bothers me here is that in a lot of other games you do a lot of killing in a similar fashion, but without the orders to do so. Which begs the question, what justifies it there?

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For example in Borderlands, what exactly gives you the right to kill literally everything that so much as pokes you?

round sinew Jun 25, 2020, 7:42 PM

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They're poking you?

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Borderlands is literally on an anarchy planet.

cold bramble Jun 25, 2020, 9:00 PM

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so Lori "Termite" Baker...who the fuck is she?

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why does she fight alongside the outcasts?

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I get she's a rogue first wave

static bay Jun 25, 2020, 10:32 PM

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Borderlands is literally on an anarchy planet.
@round sinew On one hand yes, on the other hand "there's no rules deal with it" just seems too easy.

round sinew Jun 25, 2020, 10:34 PM

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@cold bramble So Hornet's team seems intent on spreading the Eclipse Virus that Keener made. Baker herself was a field surgeon who was activated. She went rogue when she decided to kill the Dollar Bug patients in her care.

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We don't have audio logs yet, but we can assume Keener persuaded her through some reason related to infecting the weak so the strong can live.

cold bramble Jun 25, 2020, 10:34 PM

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I was more asking why does she fight with outcasts

round sinew Jun 25, 2020, 10:35 PM

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A further assumption that it's for some reason of spreading viruses to kill the weak.

cold bramble Jun 25, 2020, 10:35 PM

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Didn’t the outcast hate the idea of spreading the virus?

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You’ll see I only payed attention to the rogues and hyenas

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And the cleaners

glad spruce Jun 25, 2020, 10:44 PM

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They actually spread the Green Poison. A lot of Outcast rushers are deliberately injected with Green Poison to infect civilians communities

In fact, we went to destroy their work in DCD to stop them from spreading Green Poison any further

cold bramble Jun 25, 2020, 10:47 PM

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Huh

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You’d think shaw would look down upon that

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Oooooh, that’s why their labelled “bio-terrorists” by the true sons

glad spruce Jun 25, 2020, 11:13 PM

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Actually, one of the audio logs for the Outcasts discusses between an Outcast and Shaw discussing about she's asymptomatic carrier of the Green Poison.

And when that Outcast proposed using her blood as a weapon, she approved

round sinew Jun 25, 2020, 11:18 PM

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Yeah, Shaw came up with the idea.

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She's fucking crazy.

spiral turtle Jun 26, 2020, 12:49 AM

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And they are all hellbent I’m vengeance All because Emelines daughter died on Roosevelt

cold bramble Jun 26, 2020, 1:17 AM

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yeah

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True Sons are dicks anyways

round sinew Jun 26, 2020, 3:11 AM

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I've started before here that the only redeemable faction in the games or books are the Hyenas. Maybe general rioters as well.

static bay Jun 26, 2020, 5:03 AM

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Makes sense considering criminals often change in jail. What's to say something else can't change them?

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There's an episode of this podcast called PKA where a member talks about his experience in jail

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He says that a lot of guys who have spent a long time there are looking forward to release because they want to work hard and provide for their families, not go back to crime

static bay Jun 26, 2020, 5:27 AM

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If anyone's interested here is the podcast
https://youtu.be/a-UlDWetxQc

cold bramble Jun 26, 2020, 2:03 PM

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I've started before here that the only redeemable faction in the games or books are the Hyenas. Maybe general rioters as well.
@round sinew imo its the cleaners

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Hyenas are just psychopaths doing it for their own gain

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Cleaners are emotionally detached cleaners who burn everything in their own way to destroy the virus

analog cliff Jun 26, 2020, 4:29 PM

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did they release any new collectibles besides the manhunt stuff in TU10? I know we were missing a few COMMS after last update that was theorized they were not in the game at the time.

torn siren Jun 26, 2020, 10:25 PM

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Anyone know what happened with the post office base of operations in manhattan and why Paul Rhodes and captain benitez came to the lower parts of manhattan and why Jessica candle didn’t join them?

drifting lotus Jun 26, 2020, 10:36 PM

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I.. actually don't know. I tried doing a search for what happened to her.. as far as I see it, no information pops up past the fact that she sent the Anti Viral away.

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Ah... She wasn't in New York when Benitez and Rhodes were forced to relocate.... more digging! (She apparently went to Ann Arbor, Michigan...)

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Ah

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@torn siren In an effort to uhh.. put credit where its due, the information you're looking for is in the Broken Dawn book by Alex Irvine. Its been confirmed as canon.

cold bramble Jun 26, 2020, 11:16 PM

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|| snape killed dumbledore||

civic olive Jun 26, 2020, 11:16 PM

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How was hornet revived??

spiral turtle Jun 26, 2020, 11:59 PM

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Ah... She wasn't in New York when Benitez and Rhodes were forced to relocate.... more digging! (She apparently went to Ann Arbor, Michigan...)
@drifting lotus if I recall correctly there is a a comms recording from black tusk that mentions this

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Briefly

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@civic olive termite has magical powers

violet jasper Jun 27, 2020, 2:11 AM

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@civic olive epic recycle moment

round sinew Jun 27, 2020, 1:41 PM

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I can't wait for the audio logs to be loaded. Maybe one will be dedicated to Termite reviving and saving Hornet.

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I just really want to see info on the relationship Termite, Hornet, and Keener have with each other. Did Keener really care for Hornet as a friend, or did Keener view Hornet as a tool and had Termite fix him up out of pragmatism?

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I'm sure Keener only viewed Termite as a tool, since he seemed to view all his allies as a means to an end and the Rogues that worked for him as equipment, but I wonder if that extended to Hornet as well, or if he actually gave a shit about Hornet as a friend considering he was Keener's lieutenant in this whole Rogue agent fiasco on top of being in the military together.

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He's already dead, but it would be nice to humanize Keener a little, especially considering they did him so dirty by the point of Warlords of New York.

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I hate liberty island as a mission btw.

round sinew Jun 27, 2020, 2:21 PM

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Yes.

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Yes.

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Both?

valid eagle Jun 29, 2020, 12:37 AM

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Question: I'm just now doing the Jupiter manhunt on Roosevelt Island... Did I really just hear Kelso refer to the crashed plane's "manifesto"?!

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lol... OMFG localization fail

round sinew Jun 29, 2020, 4:46 AM

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Are you in a native English country?

static bay Jun 29, 2020, 5:04 AM

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Question: I'm just now doing the Jupiter manhunt on Roosevelt Island... Did I really just hear Kelso refer to the crashed plane's "manifesto"?!
@valid eagle Lmao if you think that's bad remember that Cindy McAllister's chinese name is 7 characters long. Most chinese names are 3 characters long

spiral turtle Jun 29, 2020, 5:56 AM

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What’s so bad about saying manifesto?

round sinew Jun 29, 2020, 6:31 AM

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It should be a manifest, or black box.

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Planes don't have manifestos.

thin juniper Jun 29, 2020, 7:59 AM

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the plane itself doesn't have a manifest, but as a military cargo plane, the contents of what it was carrying would have been well documented.

toxic rock Jun 29, 2020, 8:03 AM

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Did the plane even have any cargo on it

thin juniper Jun 29, 2020, 8:42 AM

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evidently all the crates that can be seen around Roosevelt island and the experimental EMP devices recovered by the rouges and cleaners

spiral turtle Jun 29, 2020, 10:00 AM

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Ah that makes sense

valid eagle Jun 29, 2020, 10:22 AM

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@spiral turtle Yes, USA. A "manifest" would be a list of cargo being carried by a plane, ship, etc. A "manifesto" in the 10,000-word rambling unpunctuated wall-of-text that a creepy kid leaves in his room before he shoots up a grade school. Both documents, but the similarities end tbere.

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There is zero overlap. No way at all that "manifesto" fits the context. Unless the airplane carrying the EMPs was also ranting against the reptilian agenda or had a dispute with the Bureau of Land Management over cattle grazing.

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(I hope that doesn't seem an unfriendly response. Not intended to be.)

toxic rock Jun 29, 2020, 10:33 AM

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It's called manifest
A manifesto is what Streisand said but not always dark

spiral turtle Jun 29, 2020, 3:30 PM

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Yeah, I’m from the USA, guess I got them mixed up for whatever reason petter

valid eagle Jun 29, 2020, 4:27 PM

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@spiral turtle cool. I love what happened here. You asked a question. People answered. No one was a jerk to you about. No one was all "Try asking Google hurdurrrrrrr". It's relatively wholesome.

spiral turtle Jun 29, 2020, 4:50 PM

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Yeah I can’t stand people like that

toxic rock Jun 29, 2020, 7:18 PM

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But even in US it's Manifest I'm USA also

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at least that's what I always was told

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But I also heard of manifesto before but don't remember where

novel thicket Jun 29, 2020, 8:45 PM

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What is the lore behind the agent Edwards support mission?

spiral turtle Jun 29, 2020, 9:01 PM

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Not much besides the introduction to the hunters returning in Div 2 afaik @novel thicket

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This is about all that’s there really

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https://thedivision.fandom.com/wiki/Agent_Edwards

valid eagle Jun 29, 2020, 9:35 PM

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https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/manifesto @toxic rock

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Also: https://g.co/kgs/ZqsmzN

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And: http://meatbeatmanifesto.com/new-mbm-album-opaque-couche-out-may-10th/

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Don't forget: https://g.co/kgs/hNxFeS

low mural Jun 29, 2020, 9:39 PM

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...

valid eagle Jun 29, 2020, 9:39 PM

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But none of that is nearly as relevant to a cargo plane full of cargo as is a: https://g.co/kgs/2Ho8bt

low mural Jun 29, 2020, 9:40 PM

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Ok?

valid eagle Jun 29, 2020, 9:41 PM

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I mean: https://www.dictionary.com/browse/manifest

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Sorry @low mural just having some fun with a minor oversight in Season 1's writing.

low mural Jun 29, 2020, 9:41 PM

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Lol

valid eagle Jun 29, 2020, 9:43 PM

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Couldn't believe it when I heard that last night. Like, "Is Kelso having a stroke or something?"

toxic rock Jun 29, 2020, 9:54 PM

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Manifesto seem like something that is used if a military needs into another country like if the plane would to have one. It would be to tell what they are doing in that part of world and why they are doing it and all that stuff.

At least thats what it seems like reading it

novel thicket Jun 29, 2020, 10:02 PM

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Not much besides the introduction to the hunters returning in Div 2 afaik @novel thicket
@spiral turtle wait, hunters? Who are they, and who was the mystery man who shocked me in the agent Edwards mission? I went in there and got a bunch of rogue alerts, then nearly died and the man ran away.

round sinew Jun 29, 2020, 10:11 PM

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inhale

I want to help you, buy I'm on my phone, and I can't bring myself to type the novella it would require to bring you up to speed. I'm sorry.

cold bramble Jun 29, 2020, 10:25 PM

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What if Ellis is an insider and wants to know the plans of BT

novel thicket Jun 29, 2020, 10:37 PM

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How’d Ellis contact them to say he wanted to join their plans anyway?

spiral turtle Jun 29, 2020, 10:38 PM

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@novel thicket read https://thedivision.fandom.com/wiki/Hunters

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Your so-called “mystery man” is one of the hunters

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That’s just a brief summary of who they are, however there are plenty of videos that go into deeper speculation on who they are. Although not much is known about them currently, hence why it’s just speculations.

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I would recommend watching the videos about hunters from NGN gaming on YT

novel thicket Jun 29, 2020, 10:40 PM

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So how do I find more?

spiral turtle Jun 29, 2020, 10:41 PM

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I don’t want to spoil that part, that is for you to find out for yourself. 🙂

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That’s what makes them interesting

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On occasion you will run into the Stalker Hunters as well

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These ones are not hostile and more just there to instill a fear factor that you are being watched

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To get the full history on them, watch those videos and look into them from where they start in Division 1 (Survival Expansion)

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https://youtu.be/F7ZaoIF02rM

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https://youtu.be/J00uzxl6rjQ

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https://youtu.be/1iN2iD3alQ8 (watch this one last or after you’ve finished the story/WONY Expansion) @novel thicket

novel thicket Jun 29, 2020, 10:46 PM

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So I need the expansion to find them?

spiral turtle Jun 29, 2020, 10:46 PM

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No

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Well

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To find more of them yes

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But not the Year 1 set

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Just be forewarned that some of the videos may have actual spoilers, but I believe NGN puts a warning at the start of the videos if necessary

novel thicket Jun 29, 2020, 10:48 PM

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Yeah I know

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I watched a couple of the hunter videos, wasn’t too interested since I didn’t know where to find them

spiral turtle Jun 29, 2020, 10:49 PM

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@cold bramble it’s very clear that Ellis is not an insider and is working alongside BT. It’s made especially clear through comms and black tusk ECHOs

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@novel thicket see but that’s the thing, knowing the story will give you more insight on them and may help you find them

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They are found in certain spots around the map with “puzzles” that once completed will spawn them

novel thicket Jun 29, 2020, 10:52 PM

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Ah ok thanks

cold bramble Jun 29, 2020, 10:55 PM

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Just what if he is an insider and provides us with anonymous tips on what BT are gonna do next

round sinew Jun 29, 2020, 11:13 PM

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Then he's the deepest insider ever.

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So deep only he knows he's an insider

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And he's still guilty of, you know, being complicit in the death of the last president, as well as the deaths of so many JTF personnel.

spiral turtle Jun 29, 2020, 11:33 PM

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^

spiral turtle Jun 30, 2020, 3:40 AM

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We still don’t know much about Jack Bonney right?

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He’s featured in almost all the black tusk ECHOs alongside sumner, brenner, and Schaefer

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I just figure his is present alongside some other key BT figures, so he must have some importance

low mural Jun 30, 2020, 3:45 AM

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One of the leaders maybe?

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Around the same rank as sumner

spiral turtle Jun 30, 2020, 3:55 AM

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Maybe

novel thicket Jun 30, 2020, 4:41 AM

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Was the agent they spotted in that one echo the player agent?

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Also, isn’t jack Bonney the tank of the group? I’ve seen him in a few echos I think, and he’s been like a bodyguard figure.

low mural Jun 30, 2020, 4:44 AM

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Wasn’t summer the tank?

novel thicket Jun 30, 2020, 4:59 AM

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He wasn’t, and I don’t think you ever fought Bonney either, if i remember correct. He was just with them.

spiral turtle Jun 30, 2020, 6:12 AM

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They change archetype styles in the ECHOs a few times

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Yeah we haven’t fought Bonney yet, I was just seeing what we know about him and if he will be more relevant in the future

novel thicket Jun 30, 2020, 6:45 AM

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so the recon team they had near the white house, they mentioned they saw an agent, is that the playeragent?

spiral turtle Jun 30, 2020, 7:02 AM

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That would be my guess

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Could’ve been Kelso

novel thicket Jun 30, 2020, 7:04 AM

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nah, kelso didnt ever approach from the south lawn, since she is an already existing agent and has been in dc for a long time. i dont think i know anyone who goes throough south lawn to get to the white house.

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2 questions. where is the place where you started the game from (cutscene) and what was in the tidal basin location before the invasion?

spiral turtle Jun 30, 2020, 7:10 AM

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Both i am unsure

novel thicket Jun 30, 2020, 7:22 AM

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wait i think theyre the same place

spiral turtle Jun 30, 2020, 7:31 AM

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Nah the village intro and tidal basin are different places

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It’s just outside of DC

rigid lake Jun 30, 2020, 6:48 PM

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did any one ran the new raid yet

outer lodge Jul 1, 2020, 1:31 AM

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how do you complete the second boss of the new raid????

low mural Jul 1, 2020, 1:33 AM

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@outer lodge try in #td2-raid-discussions maybe you’ll have some more luck

novel thicket Jul 1, 2020, 3:03 AM

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Are raid spoilers allowed here?

cold bramble Jul 1, 2020, 3:08 AM

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well this is the game-SPOILERS so i guess so !

novel thicket Jul 1, 2020, 3:08 AM

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Woo!

lone salmon Jul 1, 2020, 3:24 AM

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@lll.Basterd.lll#9498 o damn where did you get this?

nova rivet Jul 1, 2020, 3:47 AM

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@lone salmon https://twitter.com/SleepY0tv/status/1278133866625204224

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POG members had access to information regarding the new raid before others.

lone salmon Jul 1, 2020, 3:52 AM

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@nova rivet well, POG still lost anyway so GG

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Didn't exactly get them much of an advantage

nova rivet Jul 1, 2020, 3:55 AM

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it might help current runners rather than spending 6h on the 2nd boss :P. Some ppl just want to complete it within 24h and not race

lone salmon Jul 1, 2020, 3:56 AM

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Mhm

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Now that world first is done it can be shared fine

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It pretty much just serves as hints anyway, not a full guide

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Also:

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FORGE ROOM TEMPERATURE:

9000

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They just couldn't resist huh

sinful wharf Jul 1, 2020, 4:13 AM

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2nd boss is a pain, took us 2 hours to understand some mechanics

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How many times you have to get error codes right to pour "lava" on train anyway?

round sinew Jul 1, 2020, 4:24 AM

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Neat

barren grove Jul 1, 2020, 4:30 AM

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4 codes. But then you need to shoot weak points on crucible track to get it to move towards turret

sinful wharf Jul 1, 2020, 4:35 AM

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I have to do it in between codes or after ?

spiral turtle Jul 1, 2020, 4:42 AM

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I thought it was 6 codes?

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@barren grove

barren grove Jul 1, 2020, 4:44 AM

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It was 25% for us each code.. 6 maybe if you count the initial one to spawn the boss

spiral turtle Jul 1, 2020, 4:46 AM

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Ok so it’s 5 codes

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Cause he spawns after the first one

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How do you see the percentage?

sinful wharf Jul 1, 2020, 4:49 AM

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What's setup they've managed with anyway? Is it 1 person in control room, 4 people outside on valves/defense, 3 people in, or 2 people in control room and only 2 inside? Trying to find optimal setup

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I imagine its bit much for one person in control room, all at once I mean

spiral turtle Jul 1, 2020, 4:52 AM

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The one that works the best imo is 2 in control room, 2 tanks juggle the heat from Fieser room and the rest are running around with adds and doing the symbols

sinful wharf Jul 1, 2020, 5:26 AM

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@spiral turtle your group got past it yet ?

spiral turtle Jul 1, 2020, 5:27 AM

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I got off

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For the night

barren grove Jul 1, 2020, 5:47 AM

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The person in control room can see progress. Think it’s on the crucible computer screen.

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Someone in the forge needs to have DPS to shoot his backpack to prevent him from sending out that instadeath shockwave. Not sure the amount it takes to break the weakpoint and if tanks will be able to do it

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2 in the control room would get interesting when the gates to the control room shut.

sinful wharf Jul 1, 2020, 5:56 AM

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We've found out you can just leave the room in time to skip that full room burn

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Just empty it out entirely, then run back in - if tank is aiming which it usually is then you use 2 RPG's on it

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Not sure if it's meant to be avoided like that but it worked for us

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We never got past 2nd symbol tho :/

lone salmon Jul 1, 2020, 6:19 AM

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Yeah, a lot of people are saying Fieser is harder than the final boss

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That said Williams seems to be an interesting roadblock too

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@sinful wharf check the imgur link above for some tips

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If you haven't already that is

sinful wharf Jul 1, 2020, 6:36 AM

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That imgur thing I've seen even before - but theres some parts it wont explain

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Like how many crucible contents you have to drop on train

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You have to drop it once then solidify it with water, or you have to do it more than once ?

lone salmon Jul 1, 2020, 6:38 AM

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Fill once then drop prolly

grizzled thorn Jul 1, 2020, 11:20 AM

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yes

cold bramble Jul 1, 2020, 8:20 PM

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anyone knows the guide for boss 3 ?

static bay Jul 2, 2020, 7:36 PM

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I killed a dog in the game today for the first time

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twitch reflexes opened fire on it when it ran through a firefight

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I am a monster

low mural Jul 2, 2020, 7:36 PM

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Rip

novel thicket Jul 2, 2020, 7:50 PM

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Killing the random birds that fly up with a sniper is fun

spiral turtle Jul 2, 2020, 8:21 PM

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I have yet to kill an animal intentionally in this game

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I had a friend that would intentionally shoot every dog he saw in TD1

low mural Jul 2, 2020, 8:22 PM

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Humans are classified as intelligent animals btw

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

spiral turtle Jul 2, 2020, 8:22 PM

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🤔

static bay Jul 2, 2020, 10:39 PM

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I had a friend that would intentionally shoot every dog he saw in TD1
@spiral turtle same. I had one who thought it was sort of hilarious. Huge red flag.

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Humans are classified as intelligent animals btw
@low mural on one hand yes, but I'm sure eavesdropping on some of the hostiles will change your mind in a flash

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Killing the random birds that fly up with a sniper is fun
@novel thicket as someone who has been shit on multiple times by birds, I approve of this

low mural Jul 2, 2020, 10:42 PM

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@low mural on one hand yes, but I'm sure eavesdropping on some of the hostiles will change your mind in a flash
@static bay haha lmao

static bay Jul 2, 2020, 10:42 PM

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first I'm gonna kill you, then I'm gonna kill your family

low mural Jul 2, 2020, 10:42 PM

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Also did you know that the tac50 works really well against birbs

static bay Jul 2, 2020, 10:42 PM

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Stupid world government trying to take over our country

low mural Jul 2, 2020, 10:42 PM

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Lmao

static bay Jul 2, 2020, 10:42 PM

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wait, wtf HAHAHAHA

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btw so does the minigun. Fuck wild birds.

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tbh my opinion of an animal is highly context dependent. For example I really love cats but I'm all for murdering the ones that leave a trail of destruction and piss through Australian neighbourhoods

low mural Jul 2, 2020, 10:44 PM

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Yea minigun is working pretty good

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Hehe my cats in my pfp

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It’s a boxcat

static bay Jul 2, 2020, 10:44 PM

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that cat is fuckin adorable tbh

low mural Jul 2, 2020, 10:44 PM

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Thank you

static bay Jul 2, 2020, 10:45 PM

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:))))))

low mural Jul 2, 2020, 10:45 PM

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He’s looking at you like “if you mess up one more time imma murder you”

static bay Jul 2, 2020, 10:45 PM

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as long as he doesn't roam around, piss on people's cars and eat birds, I have no problem with literally any cat

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ahahahahaha yes he has judgy eyes

low mural Jul 2, 2020, 10:45 PM

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Yes he judges a lot

static bay Jul 2, 2020, 10:45 PM

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is he yours?

low mural Jul 2, 2020, 10:45 PM

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And he has this very sassy attitude

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Yea

static bay Jul 2, 2020, 10:45 PM

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He is a really handsome boi

low mural Jul 2, 2020, 10:46 PM

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Yep

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Hes a good boi

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Most of the time....

static bay Jul 2, 2020, 10:46 PM

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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It's okay I will love him anyway. Such is the power of toxioplasma gondii

low mural Jul 2, 2020, 10:46 PM

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Like my parent get angry when he doesn’t go doodoo inside his litter box

static bay Jul 2, 2020, 10:47 PM

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fair enough HAHA

low mural Jul 2, 2020, 10:47 PM

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Yea lol

static bay Jul 2, 2020, 10:47 PM

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tbh I kind of like flat faced cats. There's one near my grandparents' place and it's legit the most pretty cat I have ever seen

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I can't even explain why

low mural Jul 2, 2020, 10:47 PM

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Oh nice

static bay Jul 2, 2020, 10:48 PM

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It's all normal looking except it has a flat face so it looks all high class like

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tbh I don't know what is with the cats in Australia that makes them such assholes. The cats in here are so nice and cute and I've never, ever seen cat piss anywhere

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wait shit this is considered off topic dammit

spiral turtle Jul 2, 2020, 11:09 PM

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@static bay luckily he’s not my friend anymore

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petter

static bay Jul 2, 2020, 11:09 PM

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thank fuck

steel radish Jul 2, 2020, 11:34 PM

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Dogs could be carrying the virus you never know

round sinew Jul 3, 2020, 12:11 AM

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If that's true, then it's time for humanity to end.

upbeat ether Jul 4, 2020, 12:28 AM

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Never saw this server till

toxic rock Jul 4, 2020, 12:29 AM

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If Division has Servers for ISAC wouldn't that mean The Rouge would need servers for ANNa or whatever the name is

upbeat ether Jul 4, 2020, 12:30 AM

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Yup ANNA has servers how do tou think the open world rogue agents have the SHD skills for themself

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Theo and Keener made it

toxic rock Jul 4, 2020, 12:30 AM

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I would like to know why don't they send agents to try and shut them down

upbeat ether Jul 4, 2020, 12:31 AM

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Cause in the last mission for Theo his server jumps every where so that could be the same for ANNA

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No scrap that I have the echo

toxic rock Jul 4, 2020, 12:32 AM

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Oh ok

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Jumping servers just seems unstable but again I'm not an expert on that stuff

upbeat ether Jul 4, 2020, 12:36 AM

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They would have to shut down ISAC now because it is a backdoor if I remember right but I could be wrong

toxic rock Jul 4, 2020, 1:21 AM

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Would that leave agents blind basically

static bay Jul 4, 2020, 5:43 AM

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I'm pretty sure Theo's server doesn't jump around though. He just wiped the server. He had a backup of his data elsewhere

static bay Jul 4, 2020, 10:36 AM

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Can we take a moment to appreciate the fact that The Division has tech that can revive a DEAD agent but nothing to fix Odessa's missing leg

novel thicket Jul 4, 2020, 3:57 PM

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What agent died?

static bay Jul 4, 2020, 4:18 PM

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all of us, at some point or another. And then our reviver hives just picked us back up.

lone salmon Jul 4, 2020, 4:50 PM

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I think Odessa refused the solution

novel thicket Jul 4, 2020, 4:50 PM

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Oh that’s a reviver, for when you’re bleeding out. Just imagine it as a tool for pushing out the 2000 bullets you took

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Darpa makes the tech for the division, wouldn’t be too surprising to see that they wouldn’t do it for odessas leg.

round sinew Jul 4, 2020, 5:45 PM

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Technically, when you go down and your timer runs out, you're not dead, just unconscious.

hybrid hatch Jul 4, 2020, 6:03 PM

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Took some bullets to the head. Im fine guys just unconscious

novel thicket Jul 4, 2020, 6:03 PM

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What do they even pick up after I go unconscious? They just walk over to my body and pick up something.

static bay Jul 4, 2020, 6:08 PM

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Technically, when you go down and your timer runs out, you're not dead, just unconscious.
@round sinew Actually you're legitimately dead. It shows on your allies' screens. "Maplestruck was killed"

round sinew Jul 4, 2020, 6:10 PM

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I mean, yes.

But at the same time the game makes several notes throughout all the hint boxes that you're not dead, just unconscious, which is why it takes longer to get you back up rather than when you're in DBNO.

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Honestly, I'd just chalk this up to the devs making an attempt to not really be 100% clear, so we can kind of assume.

cold bramble Jul 4, 2020, 6:47 PM

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What do they even pick up after I go unconscious? They just walk over to my body and pick up something.
Most likely a piece of clothing/gear. They could be picking up the agents watch from their body like the hunter but i doubt it considering that the agent still has it when they get back up.

cold bramble Jul 4, 2020, 8:34 PM

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you guys think shaw is suicidal?because how she speaks in the national zoo mission she shouts shit like "kill me" or "none of this matters", or could it be something to scare the division off

bright snow Jul 4, 2020, 8:42 PM

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She wants to be martyred.

cursive wedge Jul 4, 2020, 8:59 PM

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She literally doesn't care and is doing all of it out of revenge against the division after she witnessed her daughter dying. She's psychotic and senses her downfall as we destroy manning zoo stronghold in 25 minutes...

low mural Jul 4, 2020, 9:01 PM

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@cursive wedge down to 18 if you do it fast 😉

cursive wedge Jul 4, 2020, 9:01 PM

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i feel like 18 is a little annoying, 20 min sounds more realistic

low mural Jul 4, 2020, 9:01 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯ that’s stage ten for ya

cursive wedge Jul 4, 2020, 9:02 PM

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ive never been so stressed in a timed run... DARPA wasnt even this bad

low mural Jul 4, 2020, 9:02 PM

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I still don’t understand how you do it that quick

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Yea and DARPA was on heroic too

cursive wedge Jul 4, 2020, 9:03 PM

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like the worst feeling is watching the clock go past 18:00 as we have to look at that stupid hologram polar bear

low mural Jul 4, 2020, 9:06 PM

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Lmao totally relatable

bright snow Jul 4, 2020, 9:13 PM

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I think we did it in 16 min.

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But we did use two separate builds.

novel thicket Jul 5, 2020, 2:05 AM

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Why did ex navy seals and other military personnel join the black tusk? Weren’t they a part of some group that helps keep civilians safe, or something like that?

upbeat ether Jul 5, 2020, 2:26 AM

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Maybe the JTF thought that they were a danger or something else

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To the other members of the JTF

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Who thinks Keener is right about the SHD network and the JTF being corrupt

novel thicket Jul 5, 2020, 2:36 AM

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Yeah

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Originally before I got the game, I heard someone talk about “going rogue” which at the time I thought marked you permanently rogue and you joined keeners cause, which I would love to do.

lone salmon Jul 5, 2020, 3:54 AM

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For some reason I only got like stage 7 or something for federal bunker, dunno why

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Every other stage except manning got stage 10

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Imma retry when I get back home

round sinew Jul 5, 2020, 4:25 AM

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A division game from a Rogue's perspective would be fun.

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Would make a better single-player story, I think.

lone salmon Jul 5, 2020, 4:35 AM

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@round sinew imagine a single player gaiden game of that tho

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That'd be awesome

round sinew Jul 5, 2020, 4:36 AM

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Yes. Would likely work best as a level-based game, but I guess even a single-player open-world would work.

lone salmon Jul 5, 2020, 4:37 AM

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Even the likes of PSO2 has an "elite squad" gaiden game

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So would be great to see such a thing

novel thicket Jul 5, 2020, 6:07 AM

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Why did unknown tell bard to back off the division? That voice recording really just screws up everything about the lore.

spiral turtle Jul 5, 2020, 7:14 AM

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@novel thicket they are doing it a strategic decision, I forget exactly where it’s explained, but it connects and makes sense with the lore

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It’s part of them trying to decide which faction is going to give the decision the most trouble

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They back off to get a better perspective and as said in another voice recording they supply the hyenas (hence invaded DUA)

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I think it’s partially explained a bit better in NGN Gaming’s video on Black Tusk

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iirc

static bay Jul 5, 2020, 8:01 AM

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you guys think shaw is suicidal?because how she speaks in the national zoo mission she shouts shit like "kill me" or "none of this matters", or could it be something to scare the division off
@cold bramble I really don't think so. When she says "You're nothing. This means nothing" you can hear the fear in her voice. She's obviously afraid of the fact that she's about to die

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It's even apparent in her choice of words. She's using extreme words "you're nothing" to try and scare off the agents

novel thicket Jul 5, 2020, 8:03 AM

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She knows she’s cornered, and with the limited outcast firepower, she understands she’s lost the fight. She isn’t suicidal the way I look at it, but just wants the division to go down one way or another, whether this be through her hands or someone else’s, such as keeners.

static bay Jul 5, 2020, 8:25 AM

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Yeah. I know she says "make me a martyr" but you can hear the fear in her voice. She might be willing to go down for her cause but she's scared, and doesn't embrace the idea fully

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"Looks like the scientists tried using various sterilisation agents to lower the toxicity (of DC-62)"

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That's NOT what sterilisation is, Manny

novel thicket Jul 5, 2020, 8:42 AM

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It makes me sad the dc 62 contaminated areas don’t have much work put into them. You wear an average mask, and you can get through contaminated dc 62 areas.

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I really enjoy the feel of them, I just don’t enjoy how it feels.

static bay Jul 5, 2020, 10:21 AM

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bruhhh haha the True Sons grenadier tank has a voice line "100RPM, asshole!"

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As if the slow firerate of his grenade launcher is something to brag abvout

cold bramble Jul 5, 2020, 11:06 AM

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@static bay okay thanks

novel thicket Jul 5, 2020, 4:31 PM

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Well what’s the fire rate of your m32a1?

static bay Jul 5, 2020, 5:34 PM

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Me: Playing the Story mode side mission at The Mast control point
Manny: Survive a little longer, the Campus has just sent reinforcements
Me, who once spent an entire night clearing this CP on Heroic with Providence targeted loot: soft chuckle

spiral turtle Jul 5, 2020, 6:37 PM

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@static bay I mean 100 Grenade launcher shots per minute is kinda fuckin scary ngl

cold bramble Jul 6, 2020, 2:18 AM

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Who the devil is that hostile that wrecked Agent Edwards? I've been scrapping with that prick for half an hour! That guy is jacked, but damn....

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Apparently it was supposed to be a 5 min max mission, but damn, we were at it for ages before he finally shocked me....who is he, and where can I find him to finish what we started?

low mural Jul 6, 2020, 2:32 AM

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@cold bramble can’t really kill him anymore

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But there’s other hunter you can kill 😉

cold bramble Jul 6, 2020, 2:35 AM

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Damn...that sucks. I was hoping for a legendary battle at the end...

low mural Jul 6, 2020, 2:36 AM

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@cold bramble well you technically can have a “legendary” battle with 4 hunters at once

cold bramble Jul 6, 2020, 2:36 AM

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Haha! Nice!

spiral turtle Jul 6, 2020, 3:37 AM

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@cold bramble one of these guys https://thedivision.fandom.com/wiki/Hunters?mobile-app=false

cold bramble Jul 6, 2020, 4:04 AM

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Oooh! Oh how the Hunters are now the Hunted. Open Season has begun!

novel thicket Jul 6, 2020, 4:07 AM

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Do you need wony to get the ability to hunt them?

spiral turtle Jul 6, 2020, 4:37 AM

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For certain ones yes @novel thicket

static bay Jul 6, 2020, 7:57 AM

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Ack, I was enjoying the epic speech about the SHD network reactivation until I saw that it was being given by a filthy traitor

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(the president)

cold bramble Jul 6, 2020, 8:03 AM

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||perservation works with negotiators. Just mark the enemies and kill and you’ll get a lot of armor back||

low mural Jul 6, 2020, 1:03 PM

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Wow

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So it’s possible to get 60% of your armour in 10 seconds and even more

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That’s like pre nerf foundry regen speed

static bay Jul 6, 2020, 2:26 PM

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hold on a sec does Preservation even stack

floral gull Jul 6, 2020, 3:59 PM

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@static bay when using my bulwark shield Rikers comment on it, "You look like an asshole with that shield!"

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The way he shouts at me was funny

static bay Jul 6, 2020, 4:04 PM

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hahahahahahaha

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As a shield user I can relate

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"That shield is not gonna save you!"

lone salmon Jul 6, 2020, 4:59 PM

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@floral gull they may not have put you in your place but I WILL!

floral gull Jul 6, 2020, 6:26 PM

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they will have to go through my 13.5 million bulwark shield with artificer, tardigrade, Protector and Foundry

toxic rock Jul 6, 2020, 6:31 PM

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Doesn't the one firefly do like 18 million damage to weak points/Skills

novel thicket Jul 6, 2020, 7:00 PM

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It breaks them. My brother seems to like it because it has a lot of utility, but personally I’ve seen it fail a ton.

toxic rock Jul 6, 2020, 8:06 PM

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Yeah that's why I never use it

pseudo cliff Jul 7, 2020, 1:47 AM

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Was it the outcasts or hunters that attacked the federal bunker team

low mural Jul 7, 2020, 1:55 AM

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Outcasts

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The ppl at the beginning is from the underground faction

toxic rock Jul 7, 2020, 2:32 AM

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They said Outcast are people who got left behind in DZ to die and they're taking the revenge thing too far killing everyone even if they had nothing to do with them getting left

pseudo cliff Jul 7, 2020, 2:35 AM

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Well to the outcasts everyone is to blame because they just let it happen @toxic rock

toxic rock Jul 7, 2020, 2:37 AM

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They should see not everyone could have done anything

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some people are just normal everyday people who probably would have gotten shoot if they tried to help

pseudo cliff Jul 7, 2020, 2:38 AM

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Remember the outcasts are insane

low mural Jul 7, 2020, 2:39 AM

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The outcasts were actually escapees from the Roosevelt island quarantine

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And they were using emelines blood to spread the virus cause she’s an asymptomatic carrier

pseudo cliff Jul 7, 2020, 2:40 AM

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As the black tusk puts it "what the fuck is wrong with people"

round sinew Jul 7, 2020, 5:15 AM

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Still don't think it was Outcasts that took out the bunker.

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Outcasts might've been there, but I still think there was someone else.

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You're gonna tell me 1-4 agents canonically erased the outcasts from existence, including Kenly College and 2 fortified headquarters.

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But something like a dozen SHD agents inside a heavily defended bunker get merc'd by a handful of outcasts?

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Bull. Shit.

toxic rock Jul 7, 2020, 7:03 AM

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Could have been Cleaners who did bunkers or anything

lone salmon Jul 7, 2020, 7:10 AM

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@round sinew tbf Maya Walsh didn't have any equipment save for pistol and watch when we found her

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Though that might be because the Outcasts just ripped them off

willow ether Jul 7, 2020, 12:39 PM

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Maybe hunters cleared the bunker

rocky lynx Jul 7, 2020, 3:51 PM

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Must've been the old insane poison damage from the underground guys that are at the entrance

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just gassed the whole thing and the outcasts got creative with the bodies

pseudo cliff Jul 7, 2020, 5:07 PM

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I feel like it was the hunters that took out the bunker, if u look how alot of the people where killed it seems like they didn't even tho the enemy was there

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If it was the outcasts they would have burned everyone

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Even those first two bodys scream hunters because one of them is hung up by the arms just like how that hunter did to that agent in that weird side mission

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@round sinew

round sinew Jul 7, 2020, 5:09 PM

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Yes.

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Plus there's no other bodies.

pseudo cliff Jul 7, 2020, 5:10 PM

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Ya the agents would have taken out a few outcasts

round sinew Jul 7, 2020, 5:10 PM

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So you're telling me the Outcasts attacked a bunker of SHD agents with 0 losses? That ain't it chief.

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Exactly

pseudo cliff Jul 7, 2020, 5:10 PM

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Alot of the shd units where stuff sitting in chairs and on couches

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Like they where sneek attacked

round sinew Jul 7, 2020, 5:11 PM

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Which isn't the Outcast MO.

pseudo cliff Jul 7, 2020, 5:11 PM

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Maya even said "then those crazy fucks showed up" but she never calls the outcasts out by name

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The outcast MO is fire and fear

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Kill everyone in a brutal fashion

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The hunters is fast and quiet

static bay Jul 7, 2020, 5:30 PM

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Remember the outcasts are insane
@pseudo cliff They're also kind of stupid. They believe that a ""world government"" is trying to take over the USA

pseudo cliff Jul 7, 2020, 5:32 PM

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True and they are led by a emotionally unstable exmom@static bay

static bay Jul 7, 2020, 5:32 PM

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To be fair she did become mentally ill after her daughter died, one recording says that she has nightmares about her daughter in quarantine

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I'd be pretty pissed if that happened to me

pseudo cliff Jul 7, 2020, 5:33 PM

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Truw

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True*

static bay Jul 7, 2020, 5:33 PM

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I mean ffs, not only is my daughter dead but now I'm also getting nightmares?

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Anyways the real reason that the Outcasts are so mad at Maya is that she's part of the JTF, the same organisation that ran the quarantine

halcyon iron Jul 7, 2020, 5:34 PM

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They're also kind of stupid. They believe that a ""world government"" is trying to take over the USA
@static bay That is what black tusk's endgame is though

static bay Jul 7, 2020, 5:34 PM

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Everyone else was complicit, but the JTF were the ones who made the whole thing happen

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fuck you're right

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to be fair I heard the world government thing in endgame, what if the Outcast was talking about the shadowy cabal roaming DC, the Black Tusk?

pseudo cliff Jul 7, 2020, 5:35 PM

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But technically it was the true sons who did the quarantine+ the war crimes

static bay Jul 7, 2020, 5:35 PM

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Yeah but the True Sons were a JTF unit, and to the Outcasts the entire JTF is extra-guilty

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remember that these are the same guys who lump in innocent civilians with their captors, what would they think when they see a JTF member?

pseudo cliff Jul 7, 2020, 5:38 PM

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They also clubbed a guy to death with hammers@static bay

static bay Jul 7, 2020, 5:38 PM

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ah yes that one. I try not to remember that one.

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The worst part about it was how they threw in a pun at the start, "the architect of our suffering"

pseudo cliff Jul 7, 2020, 5:39 PM

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You remember the other outcast video?

static bay Jul 7, 2020, 5:39 PM

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Cause he was the architect who drew the quarantine site. Ha. Haha. Hhahahahahahaha

pseudo cliff Jul 7, 2020, 5:39 PM

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Imagine if the rushers boom was that big

static bay Jul 7, 2020, 5:39 PM

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oh shit

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pls no

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imagine if one bullet could stun them like in the video

pseudo cliff Jul 7, 2020, 5:40 PM

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I mean shoot the legs and that happens

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Shoot them in the vest and it's even better

narrow panther Jul 7, 2020, 5:45 PM

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@half oracle div2hmm

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y u leave we need 1 more

pseudo cliff Jul 7, 2020, 5:46 PM

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You sure? Your name says otherwise

round sinew Jul 7, 2020, 8:58 PM

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Isn't Maya a SHD agent?

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Also Re:Bunker, I guess there's some audio that indicates Manny is also doubtful of Outcasts pulling off killing a bunker of agents, and we can find 18 people there(17 bodies and Maya, most of which are confirmed agents based on their watches)

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Plus there's apparently some dialogue that can be overheard between Outcasts about some traitor or something that led the outcasts there. Iirc, it was a woman who made a deal with Shaw, then left the Outcasts.

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So I'm guessing this is just missed story opportunities on part of the Devs, but maybe Maya was supposed to be expanded on.

pseudo cliff Jul 7, 2020, 10:08 PM

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So Maya might have been mistaken as the trader?

cold bramble Jul 7, 2020, 10:54 PM

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I am really shocked about the ending from the NYC DLC after killing Keenen

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That asian women

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So smart that I had to kill the people who where in here way

pseudo cliff Jul 7, 2020, 10:58 PM

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Fye Lau@cold bramble

toxic rock Jul 7, 2020, 11:42 PM

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Back in Division 1 after seeing Faye Lau wearing an Eyepatch. I was wondering when will she end up turning on us. Took so long still was kind of surprising

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but watching so much Marvel Movies when I see her now all I can really see is a Female Nick Fury lol

round sinew Jul 8, 2020, 3:16 AM

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I mean, that's basically what she is.

lone salmon Jul 8, 2020, 5:46 AM

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You know

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One gripe with every MMORPG story I have is that once the multiplayer elements kick in, the "chosen one" element present in every story of the sort just kinda loses meaning

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Destiny, PSO2, Division, you name it

cold bramble Jul 8, 2020, 10:39 AM

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||In IH the bullet could not be capable of destroying DC unless it’s that strong and is a nuke||

halcyon shore Jul 8, 2020, 11:52 AM

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||well the bullet is more killing the white house, not DC||

lone salmon Jul 8, 2020, 1:01 PM

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And considering how many they have, clearly they're just gonna carpet the entirety of DC

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Or at least certain areas

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Also ||F for Z||

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Only got to read the story a bit today

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Thanks to Solid's 30-minute run

static bay Jul 8, 2020, 4:09 PM

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Yeah it was a pretty solid run

lone salmon Jul 8, 2020, 4:32 PM

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@static bay No one seems to turn on full captions lel

round sinew Jul 8, 2020, 10:06 PM

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Hate the people calling Solid out for cheating. Even with a guide, it takes skill, practice, and teamwork to get a raid down to 35 minutes.

pseudo cliff Jul 8, 2020, 10:17 PM

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I feel like this is a call out to someone

static bay Jul 8, 2020, 10:19 PM

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quite possibly.

low mural Jul 8, 2020, 10:20 PM

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👀

round sinew Jul 8, 2020, 11:11 PM

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Nobody in general nah.

livid bloom Jul 9, 2020, 1:12 AM

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Whats the server maintenance for?

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Oh- Nevermind, Thats understandable

lone salmon Jul 9, 2020, 1:41 AM

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@round sinew actually has a nice effect of making everything a lot easier to take in

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Fieser is a lot easier to understand now

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Williams still sorta confusing but less so

low mural Jul 9, 2020, 1:42 AM

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Do the crucible thingys and do the other thingy with signals and stuff

lone salmon Jul 9, 2020, 1:42 AM

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Yep, Williams will require splitting up and such

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I most likely will do tank duties

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As much as I wanna do control room having a tank build there is just wasteful

low mural Jul 9, 2020, 1:43 AM

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I’ve seen ppl have 2 in control room

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The haz proc and healer

lone salmon Jul 9, 2020, 1:44 AM

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Crap, I forgot about the hazard protection

formal moon Jul 9, 2020, 9:59 AM

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100% fire protection ftw 😄

fleet nest Jul 9, 2020, 10:19 AM

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That moment the unless female women from the first game is the bad guy

formal moon Jul 9, 2020, 11:05 AM

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true

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was kinda obvious tho

round sinew Jul 9, 2020, 6:28 PM

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Raids are just gaidens for MMO, prove me wrong.

low mural Jul 9, 2020, 10:57 PM

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@fleet nest watch you language please

fleet nest Jul 9, 2020, 10:58 PM

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Bruh where’s the rules then?

low mural Jul 9, 2020, 10:58 PM

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At the very biginning

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#rules

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Maybe read sometime

steel radish Jul 10, 2020, 7:04 PM

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Reading?

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What’s that

floral gull Jul 11, 2020, 4:32 PM

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You guys ever seen the movie called Wanted? An interesting scenario for another expansion or Manhunt would be that somehow Isac has deemed you rogue so you must clear your name somehow.

steel radish Jul 11, 2020, 4:37 PM

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Honestly some AI just randomly determining you’re eligible to get mowed down by your fellow agents is kinda scary

cursive wedge Jul 11, 2020, 4:41 PM

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yo that would be a cool stronghold where isac gets hacked and sets you to rogue and near the end kelso tries to kill you because she didnt know

steel radish Jul 11, 2020, 4:43 PM

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Uninstalling if I have to kill Kelso >:(

cursive wedge Jul 11, 2020, 5:01 PM

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nah nah nah like you just gotta get close enough to get or some shit while shes hitting u with mortars and snipers

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then when you get close enough she feels all guilty or some shit

static bay Jul 11, 2020, 5:03 PM

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or maybe she realises that she can't do it and we have this whole twist moment about how trust between agents is more important that the system itself

steel radish Jul 11, 2020, 5:04 PM

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Well Kelso seems against authority as well

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Seems fitting

static bay Jul 11, 2020, 5:12 PM

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Yeah dude. Her whole pathological insurbordination was used as bait to make you think that she was going to go Rogue in Warlords.

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The longest serving agent, a focus on her in Warlords, her personality...it was the perfect bait and switch

novel thicket Jul 12, 2020, 7:24 AM

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Yeah, don’t you just love when the game mixes 5 activities together?

static bay Jul 12, 2020, 7:33 AM

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I tried to complete a CP, RIGHT AFTER the flag turns white, 5 rogues show up, elite resource convoy shows up, a TANK boss shows up, im getting my ass whooped by artillary turrets and burned by boses
@cold bramble jeeeesus

novel thicket Jul 12, 2020, 7:34 AM

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Open world rogues?

static bay Jul 12, 2020, 7:37 AM

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yes they exist.

novel thicket Jul 12, 2020, 7:51 AM

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You ever noticed how division 2 uses the fat projection map?

karmic delta Jul 12, 2020, 9:08 AM

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You love rogues when they appear while you are in a group with 3 others, but hate them when you are alone :D

steel radish Jul 12, 2020, 11:56 AM

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Imagine you beat those rogues then more rogues show up as part of the CP

static bay Jul 12, 2020, 9:10 PM

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Seriously bro. I just had a Black Tusk grenadier launch a nade at me in the SMALLEST, TIGHTEST corridoor in Federal Emergency Bunker

novel thicket Jul 12, 2020, 9:11 PM

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That tight corridor?

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You ever notice that your character in game knows the code to practically every door?

static bay Jul 12, 2020, 9:19 PM

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Oh the explanation is that ISAC has used his capabilities to decode the door or find the code from the enemy's database

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Remember, The Division is able to DECRYPT ""large"" encrypted files

novel thicket Jul 12, 2020, 9:20 PM

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Right.

static bay Jul 12, 2020, 9:20 PM

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If you know anything about encryption, you're basically being shocked that an ultra distance runner completed a city marathon

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I mean to ISAC, what is a mere number code?

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In fact in Theo Parnell's mission, Paul says that we "shouldn't have access to this kind of technology", which hints at ISAC being cutting edge by our standards

round sinew Jul 12, 2020, 10:15 PM

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Rogues show up in open world?

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Are they named? Is it only a certain difficulty? Do they spawn at certain points like the cards?

low mural Jul 12, 2020, 10:20 PM

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@round sinew randomly, you can hear music when they’re around

round sinew Jul 12, 2020, 10:21 PM

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Music.

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They have fuckin' boss music.

spiral turtle Jul 13, 2020, 12:18 AM

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@round sinew yeah it’s a certain theme, and they are just named “Rogue Agent”. I think most appear at CP3s and up but I have ran into a pair or two looting from resource nodes

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ISAC will also give a sharp ping noise and say “Rogue Agent detected” and then said music will start playing

steel radish Jul 13, 2020, 12:36 AM

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From my personal experience, they like to show up at supply drops

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Additionally, they will always outnumber your group by one

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Even if you have a 4 man team

spiral turtle Jul 13, 2020, 12:49 AM

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^

sly osprey Jul 13, 2020, 1:43 AM

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Ran into a pair earlier today, twas fun

vague crane Jul 13, 2020, 3:26 PM

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@static bay So did you survive the multi event encounter with the rogues?

static bay Jul 13, 2020, 3:37 PM

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That wasn't me.

novel thicket Jul 13, 2020, 4:48 PM

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It could be you 😳

round sinew Jul 14, 2020, 3:37 AM

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Luna drops boysss

round sinew Jul 14, 2020, 8:51 PM

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logs on to start the Luna manhunt
sees Coney Island
okay this is gonna be EZ.
sees Theo Parnell's mission
fuck.

low mural Jul 14, 2020, 8:55 PM

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Tombs ain’t that bad

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It’s just long

round sinew Jul 14, 2020, 9:00 PM

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Tombs is fine, that's the Kajika mission.

low mural Jul 14, 2020, 9:00 PM

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oh

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thats hella long

round sinew Jul 14, 2020, 9:00 PM

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It's like, as long as the other 2.

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Fuck Theo's though. It takes forever.

low mural Jul 14, 2020, 9:03 PM

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kajikas take longer imo

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and more chances o die cause the annoying steam

round sinew Jul 14, 2020, 9:07 PM

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I think the showdown with Theo drags on too much

static bay Jul 15, 2020, 12:57 AM

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yeah it's irritating as hell, a damn waste of a nice mission

novel thicket Jul 15, 2020, 1:14 AM

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I wonder, can you skip castle settlement unlock completely?

round sinew Jul 15, 2020, 3:36 AM

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Probably.

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Wait.

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There's no Castle settlement.

novel thicket Jul 15, 2020, 3:45 AM

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There is.

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It’s the one that got fart bombed by the true sons

scenic ibex Jul 15, 2020, 3:55 AM

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I mean considering you had to meet kelso there and kelso is a "key" source to td2 story missions

low mural Jul 15, 2020, 3:55 AM

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“Fart bombed”

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That’s a new one

scenic ibex Jul 15, 2020, 3:55 AM

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I assume the game would just cease

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😂

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@novel thicket

novel thicket Jul 15, 2020, 4:07 AM

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Lemme check what it unlocks

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I think you need it to get some missions to unlock dua

steel radish Jul 15, 2020, 12:51 PM

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Theo’s felt the shortest for me

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The longest was Conley

low mural Jul 15, 2020, 12:51 PM

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It was Kajika imo

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Cause you had to wait and do steam and the drill and run a lot

steel radish Jul 15, 2020, 12:51 PM

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Conley bored me a lot though

low mural Jul 15, 2020, 12:51 PM

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That’s you getting bored not the missing being long lol

steel radish Jul 15, 2020, 12:52 PM

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I’m saying what felt the longest lol

low mural Jul 15, 2020, 12:52 PM

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Lol

dim reef Jul 15, 2020, 4:39 PM

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@round sinew yeah it’s a certain theme, and they are just named “Rogue Agent”. I think most appear at CP3s and up but I have ran into a pair or two looting from resource nodes
@spiral turtle I ran into a trio last night on Coney Island Amusement Park with a buddy. We were

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running the mission on Challenging when they showed up in the haunted house area. Scary as shit, and they wiped us. One of them aped me with his shotgun which was really damn annoying.

spiral turtle Jul 15, 2020, 5:31 PM

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F

dim reef Jul 15, 2020, 5:37 PM

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Yeah, it really sucked. We did a lot worse then when we took down a CP3 or 4 and had three spawn on us halfway through capping it. They all dropped hard that time.

novel thicket Jul 15, 2020, 6:16 PM

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The other day I was on a voice call with my friend, and he said “I wish there were cars in this game” and I thought to myself, why? The roads are all blocked and enemy patrols are a thing, so what use would a car do?

lone salmon Jul 15, 2020, 6:41 PM

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@novel thicket if it ain't BT, just fucking ram 'em

novel thicket Jul 15, 2020, 6:56 PM

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That could work

novel thicket Jul 15, 2020, 10:08 PM

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The world if they gave players the ability to ride around on a bike or a hotdog stand

static bay Jul 16, 2020, 12:35 AM

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god yes, I want to cycle around DC. I hate running. It sucks.

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extra points if they limit your turning radius so you can't just cheese around and dodge enemies

dusty stratus Jul 16, 2020, 12:45 AM

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What happened to the Post Office in Division 1? Why are Faye, Roy, and Paul in Lower Manhattan?

novel thicket Jul 16, 2020, 12:48 AM

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Probably keener was there and it’s easier to just roam around that area looking for him instead of having a chopper take them every time.

bright snow Jul 16, 2020, 12:49 AM

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Paul left the Base of Operations to stay in Haven.

novel thicket Jul 16, 2020, 12:53 AM

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god yes, I want to cycle around DC. I hate running. It sucks.
@static bay it’s all fun and games until your game starts to render.

static bay Jul 16, 2020, 1:06 AM

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ahahahahahaha

simple wadi Jul 16, 2020, 3:56 AM

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@dusty stratus Paul left the BOO to found/stay in the Haven Settlement. Roy left after some point (Maybe the Post Office fell?), and Faye Lau was in Lower Manhattan to hunt down Keener.

steel radish Jul 16, 2020, 3:25 PM

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So what happened to the occupants of the BOO

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And Kendel

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Wouldn’t they be vulnerable to attack

lone salmon Jul 16, 2020, 4:06 PM

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The BOO did fall btw

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The interior got absolutely pumped with Eclipse and killed dozens inside

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https://youtu.be/2vMmJJOHmC8

bright snow Jul 16, 2020, 4:10 PM

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Kendel is in a lab somewhere researching for a cure.

drifting lotus Jul 16, 2020, 4:43 PM

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As it stands, Kendel is MIA. The last whereabouts of her was Ann Arbor, Michigan to use the Anti-virals created in Division 1 to make a cure. Black tusk hit the place at some point and we have no idea what happened to most of the research staff there.

novel thicket Jul 16, 2020, 5:55 PM

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Didn’t kendel and April make it out of there safely, but after their whereabouts became unknown?

drifting lotus Jul 16, 2020, 6:43 PM

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I don't think so.

round sinew Jul 16, 2020, 10:51 PM

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April did.

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Kendel didn't.

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April was last seen in DC.

spiral turtle Jul 16, 2020, 11:38 PM

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@round sinew as skyfir said I believe kendel did make it out bc she went to Ann Arbor

round sinew Jul 16, 2020, 11:40 PM

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...yes.

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I was talking about Ann Arbor.

spiral turtle Jul 16, 2020, 11:41 PM

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Ah

river vale Jul 16, 2020, 11:48 PM

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Chameleon is babe

static bay Jul 17, 2020, 12:38 AM

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hecc yes.

novel thicket Jul 17, 2020, 12:45 AM

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~~Chatterbox is love chatterbox is life~~

round sinew Jul 17, 2020, 12:46 AM

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I'm enjoying Harmony and Mechanical Animal.

low mural Jul 17, 2020, 12:47 AM

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~~chatterbox shoots marshmellows~~

round sinew Jul 17, 2020, 12:49 AM

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Overcharge, then swap to Harmony and melt some poor bastard with a drone and turret.

static bay Jul 17, 2020, 1:35 AM

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Emeline's Guard is best SMG 1v1 me occupied dz

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pls don't my ttk sucks

low mural Jul 17, 2020, 1:36 AM

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Alright

lone salmon Jul 17, 2020, 1:36 AM

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@round sinew holy crap how come I've never thought of that

low mural Jul 17, 2020, 1:36 AM

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1v1 eh

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Hmm new pfp noice

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No crossplay :/

static bay Jul 17, 2020, 1:36 AM

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slight problem, mechanical animal requires weapon kills. You can't get those on a skill build

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Unless you steal kills like I do HAHA

low mural Jul 17, 2020, 1:36 AM

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Just yeet a gernade with acostas

static bay Jul 17, 2020, 1:37 AM

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Surprisingly when playing with Designated Hitter in 2 man you steal lots of kills keeping the buff up

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Just yeet a gernade with acostas
@low mural Yeap, that works

low mural Jul 17, 2020, 1:37 AM

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@static bay do you do dz much?

static bay Jul 17, 2020, 1:37 AM

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Problem is that DPM with Acosta's is likely inferior to Force Multiplier

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@static bay do you do dz much?
@low mural a few times, and I fucking hated it. I even lost a friend there once

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never again

low mural Jul 17, 2020, 1:38 AM

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Oof

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Loosing a friend in dz?

static bay Jul 17, 2020, 1:38 AM

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Eph says that PVP is broken, I say that PVP has cost me more friends than I can count

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trust me when I say that PVP in Div 2 brings out the worst in people

low mural Jul 17, 2020, 1:38 AM

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So either you lost a lot of friends or you can’t count high

static bay Jul 17, 2020, 1:39 AM

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believe me when I say that I can count.

low mural Jul 17, 2020, 1:39 AM

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trust me when I say that PVP in Div 2 brings out the worst in people
@static bay oh yeah..... those damn foamers

static bay Jul 17, 2020, 1:39 AM

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more than just the foam

low mural Jul 17, 2020, 1:40 AM

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The toxicity as well

static bay Jul 17, 2020, 1:40 AM

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Ever tried playing with someone so obsessed with minmaxing their shit that they lose all interest in the game but play it anyway, and end up being crap anyway since they don't improve their skills?

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all in the name of beating people in PVP with good gear.

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that and having to watch them go down that path without being able to stop them

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heck I even played with a cool low SHD guy just now (he knows who he is) who is so much more survivable, there's just no excuse to be that obsessed but also that bad

low mural Jul 17, 2020, 1:42 AM

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I see

static bay Jul 17, 2020, 1:42 AM

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oh and not to mention there's an entire clan full of those guys.

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it's just sad dude

round sinew Jul 17, 2020, 1:48 AM

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slight problem, mechanical animal requires weapon kills. You can't get those on a skill build
@static bay
Sure you do. Plenty of adds to pop.

static bay Jul 17, 2020, 1:48 AM

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not when your DPS buddies pop them first tho. Plus the cooldown is long as hecc

round sinew Jul 17, 2020, 1:48 AM

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Skill builds aren't PvP meta. Skill builds are PvE only really.

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My main build is specifically made for solo PVE lol

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CD don't matter. I can melt a tank in 15s

low mural Jul 17, 2020, 1:52 AM

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@round sinew eclipse protocol would like to talk to you

static bay Jul 17, 2020, 1:52 AM

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Trust me on this one, I used to play a tank with a Famas. Pushed all the way up, hogged kills and still only got about 15 per mission

low mural Jul 17, 2020, 1:52 AM

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I mean cause you’re a tank

static bay Jul 17, 2020, 1:53 AM

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yeah so same for skill builds. I honestly don't think you can get kills with a skill build. It's just not gonna happen.

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Unless you're playing in a 2 man group or something like that

low mural Jul 17, 2020, 1:53 AM

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Skill builds steal a surprising amount of kills

round sinew Jul 17, 2020, 1:55 AM

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Again.

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My build is solo PVE

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I get every kill.

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Because I'm the only one there.

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So I make the most efficient skill build to make the monotony of solo play as fast as possible.

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Obv if I drop into a raid I'm gonna strap on my Striker or Negotiator gear.

low mural Jul 17, 2020, 1:57 AM

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Striker?

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Yuck

round sinew Jul 17, 2020, 1:57 AM

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Because I have literally nothing better. div2shrug

low mural Jul 17, 2020, 1:57 AM

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I don’t like striker

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Hmm well

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Anything would be better than striker

round sinew Jul 17, 2020, 1:58 AM

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I put all my effort into my Hardwired set, Mechanical Animal, Harmony, and assault turret/assault drone.

low mural Jul 17, 2020, 1:58 AM

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I see

round sinew Jul 17, 2020, 1:59 AM

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I blew my load on that and have nothing useful for when I'm actually in a team.

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I guess I can... Draw aggro as some weird ass Skill-Tank?

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I'm basically three guns in one, so I guess that can draw aggro.

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But I'll get fucking one-tapped.

static bay Jul 17, 2020, 2:04 AM

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I get every kill.
@round sinew ohhhhhhhhh.

round sinew Jul 17, 2020, 2:11 AM

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Yep

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Outside of raids and random people I'll link up with in DZ, I am alone.

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In which case, offensive skill build? Not too bad lol.

novel thicket Jul 17, 2020, 2:59 AM

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Emeline's Guard is best SMG 1v1 me occupied dz
@static bay agreed!

carmine tree Jul 17, 2020, 11:28 AM

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What’s the talent again

steel radish Jul 17, 2020, 11:56 AM

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Doesn’t occupied dz not exist anymore

bright snow Jul 17, 2020, 12:03 PM

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It does, it's DZ South this time.

steel radish Jul 17, 2020, 12:09 PM

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Yeah but normalisation is still active in there

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Wasn’t that the main point of odz

halcyon shore Jul 17, 2020, 12:11 PM

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there is no difference between the DZ's anymore excpet for the invaded one now

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all 3 have the same rules now in regards to normalization

static bay Jul 17, 2020, 12:13 PM

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@static bay u will need to get a kill to proc emelines, useless for 1v1s, op for 1v4s
@cold bramble what is a 1v1? Is it part of PVP, that mythical hellish playstyle that is too cruel to exist?

cursive wedge Jul 17, 2020, 1:31 PM

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emeline's guard really isnt as good as you guys think, 24% armor over 5 or 10 sec is nothing realistically in pvp.

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Its good dz because npc are easy to kill and you can stay topped doing landmarks

static bay Jul 17, 2020, 1:34 PM

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It isn't good lmao I like it cause emelines guard go chichichichichi hahahahaha

static bay Jul 17, 2020, 3:34 PM

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LMAO

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you're wrong but also right

mellow wyvern Jul 18, 2020, 6:12 PM

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Lfg for Dark Hours Experienced

bright snow Jul 18, 2020, 6:21 PM

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You want to do that in #lfg-raid-ps4 .

low mural Jul 18, 2020, 6:21 PM

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@mellow wyvern use #lfg-raid-console

steel radish Jul 18, 2020, 10:29 PM

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I believe you want to do this in a channel meant for looking for players of “The Division 2”, specifically for the raid gamemode on the platform known as Playstation4

spiral turtle Jul 19, 2020, 1:32 AM

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@steel radish r/IncreasinglyVerbose

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petter

low mural Jul 19, 2020, 1:37 AM

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Hah

static bay Jul 19, 2020, 9:25 PM

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Hahagaga a man of culture I see

novel thicket Jul 20, 2020, 5:36 AM

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Is the pentagon really as public as it’s shown in d2? I always thought it was authoritized personnel only.

fiery raptor Jul 20, 2020, 6:09 AM

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@novel thicket i think theres certain places open to he public but most of its authorized personnel

spiral turtle Jul 20, 2020, 8:47 AM

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The parts in game are probably the public areas and developer recreations of what they would assume it’s like

novel thicket Jul 20, 2020, 8:52 AM

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I didn’t even know there was a visitor center until I played it

round sinew Jul 20, 2020, 12:56 PM

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I mean, there's probably tours and stuff.

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DARPA labs is also public /s

novel thicket Jul 21, 2020, 9:05 PM

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Why do the black tusk invade a black tusk area?

steel radish Jul 21, 2020, 9:22 PM

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Black tusk infighting?

round sinew Jul 21, 2020, 10:59 PM

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At the time, it's not a BT area. It was retaken by the JTF.

primal wren Jul 22, 2020, 2:37 AM

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Man how bout that twist at the end of warlords of new York when Faye Lau from D1 is actually bad......tough curious to see how they build off that

round sinew Jul 22, 2020, 2:54 AM

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Spoilers: They fuckin' won't

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At best, she'll get handled like Keener. At worst, she gets handled like Jupiter or Hornet.

low mural Jul 22, 2020, 5:21 AM

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Season 4 or 3 manhunt? 👀

spiral turtle Jul 22, 2020, 6:16 AM

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Hunter manhunt when

loud forge Jul 22, 2020, 8:27 AM

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She’ll probably be paid dlc

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Don’t think it’ll be skyscraper but the dlc after

steel radish Jul 22, 2020, 10:06 AM

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Nah I hope they save her for a major villain role

steel radish Jul 22, 2020, 12:09 PM

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I want more focus on rogues as a faction in div 3

round sinew Jul 22, 2020, 1:07 PM

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I just wanna take down that woman Lau captured. I assume that she's gonna be a secondary to Lau in Kay's manhunt.

static bay Jul 22, 2020, 2:39 PM

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Why do the black tusk invade a black tusk area?
@novel thicket You mean Camp White Oak? The JTF seized control of it, and the Black Tusk wanted that shit back.