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cold bramble
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I'm just going through them atm since I haven't bothered till now

ripe loom
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Fair, good luck then

cold bramble
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Got the Ghoul and Demon so far

ripe loom
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Sick, was the Ghoul one challenging or easy?

cold bramble
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I had the true sons on my side for a moment and one of the dudes that use the riot foam got the hunter stuck, so that made it pretty simple

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Basically destroyed him once he got stuck

ripe loom
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NIce one, that one was a living hell for me. His purple cloud thing messed it up a lot for me

cold bramble
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Yeah he hit me with that for a lot, it hurts

ripe loom
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It sure does

cold bramble
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Welp, I just went for the pool boys

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Wtf was that, they used like 6 skills in 2 seconds

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I got destroyed

ripe loom
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Tip for that one, jump out the way you came from. It will give you a few seconds to hit them while they jump over as well

cold bramble
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Yeah I was really badly positioned

ripe loom
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I just jumped out and greande launched them, easy

cold bramble
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Man fighting two at once is stupid

slate comet
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alone vs the 4 Hunters is hard but possible 😄

swift night
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I'm finally able to regularly one tap them. Feels good when I'm teaching Hunters

slate comet
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still dont know why i miss sum keys

cold bramble
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I just almost got one of them only for him to run to cover and heal to max

swift night
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Well we've still got one to solve

cold bramble
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Good design

swift night
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Oxidizer kicks them out of healing

slate comet
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ehm guys the 4 Hunters at the christmas tree does everyone drop 1 Key or just 1 Key for all 4 of them

cold bramble
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Got one of them, now where the fuck did the other go after I died 4 times

vast viper
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i had that problem

slate comet
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wich problem ?

swift night
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Each event drops one key

vast viper
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one of them disappearing

slate comet
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so even the SNipers that will insant disapear will drop keys

swift night
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No

slate comet
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well what events did i missed then (3 keys missing ) XD

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i did Christmas tree , Mall , the one with the 2 phones

cold bramble
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ffs, one of them disappeared and now it doesn't spawn by doing the objective

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Oh I found him

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The fucking outcast killed him

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What a noob

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Man now i wanna spawn a hunter and try to get a faction to kill it

paper grove
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the 4th never spawned for me so i never got the key

cold bramble
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Can't get the wraith to spawn

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Is there a night time requirement for it?

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Nevermind got it¨

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Scared the shit outta me, he just pops up infront of you lol

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Time for the four, or try too at least

swift night
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Run counterclockwise around the Christmas tree after you pull the lever (kronk)

cold bramble
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Where is this lever

swift night
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In the little shop up the hill

cold bramble
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I must be blind, couldn't find it

swift night
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It's on the edge of the counter.

cold bramble
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Oh I see it, can't interact with it yet though

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Tree first? then kronk?

digital topaz
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Kronk first, then tree

cold bramble
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Why can't I kronk then

digital topaz
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Is it night time? Or was that the one that didn't need night.

cold bramble
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Pretty sure only two need night

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This guide doesn't mention nighttime at least

digital topaz
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I've heard that all but 2 need night.

cold bramble
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Dunno then, i'll try for the Crimson mask instead

digital topaz
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Cuz it hasn't been done before has it? With you as the host with friends for example?

cold bramble
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Nope

digital topaz
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Then I don't know.

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Try again later, I guess.

south prawn
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christmas tree is night time

cold bramble
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What about Crimson?

south prawn
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which location was that?

cold bramble
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Near the Hyena stronghold

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I could interact with the computer but not the phone

exotic zephyr
south prawn
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the portrait one? should be doable at day time but not 100% sure

cold bramble
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Nevermind I got it, just had to do it in a specific way

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Through one doorway out the other and vice versa

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Got the contaminated zone one, thanks for the find you smart bunch of people

south prawn
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you gotta read the puzzle 😛 from south to north

cold bramble
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Nah, imma just cheat

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I don't really care for puzzles

south prawn
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im not saying you should solve them - but knowing the puzzle can really help understanding instructions^^

cold bramble
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How come I just got a spectre mask from the contaminated zone guy? Isn't that a unique to the one who just vanishes if you don't 1 shot it

south prawn
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thats not the proper way to get the masks ( to kill the vanishing guys)

cold bramble
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Yeah i heard something about stalkers

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So then technically the monument hunter isn't solved?

digital topaz
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No, the ones that vanish are being named "stalker hunters" and aren't supposed to be killed I don't think(?), but they drop a mask you don't have yet when killed for the first time.

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Monument riddle is being worked at right now.

ocean peak
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ivory keys: is it CURRENTLY possible to get all eight (without the fixed exploit to join other people's game) ?

digital topaz
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No

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UNITE riddle at the Washington monument isn't solved yet

slate comet
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how many can you get

digital topaz
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7

ocean peak
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really bad of massive.. first this than people exploit the alert points and all others are left in the dark

slate comet
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i still dont know where i missed 2 keys

cold bramble
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I really wonder what will be in the ivory case

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Probably another mask

digital topaz
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We already know.

cold bramble
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Oh, what was it lol?

digital topaz
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A unique F2000, backpack charm and a skin of some sort. Some think an ivory weapon skin

south prawn
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f2000 skin and backback trophy

ocean peak
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another questions: when using beserker should i stack +"health" on items because the less armor i have the higher the damage ?? couldn't find anything on reddit

slate comet
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if you lose 90 % of your armor you gain 90 % damage

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so ... just stay with armor

ocean peak
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yes but currently i have only +armor on items not +life/health so after my armor is gone i'm a one shot 😃

slate comet
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make half half

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is best

cold bramble
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Welp, I died pretty fucking fast to the quad hunters, but I did kill one

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Good enough

ocean peak
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ok thanks @slate comet

willow olive
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How long do I have to wait to reopen the chest with the chatterbox blueprint?

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Opened it earlier today before I had the 3 other pieces and then tried it again a couple hours later and just ended up wasting my time doing the mission on challenging twice for no blueprint either time.

slate comet
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can anyone please tell me every location again , idk if i just missed an hunter

south prawn
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24 hours

tranquil gyro
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how do yo ueven get into that contaminuted zone?

cold bramble
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lol I am getting fucked on by these 4 hunters, but I keep getting 1 at the time

south prawn
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swimming pool, veteran memorial, dep of agrivulture, portrait gallery, atrium thing with the first hunter, christmas tree,

cold bramble
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2 to go

south prawn
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i think im missing 1 + the WM

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@tranquil gyro which?

cold bramble
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The new contaminated zone one?

terse zealot
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7th cipher got solved today

tranquil gyro
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for the last key that got solved (metamorphosis cipher)

south prawn
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thats dep of agriculture

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dont need to get in its in front

tranquil gyro
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yeah, but there is a fence around it

south prawn
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theres a related side mission - guess you have to do that first

cold bramble
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Jeez they just kick you in the nuts and you go night night

tranquil gyro
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nvm, i'm stupid... i was looking at the backside of the building...

cold bramble
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Everyone prefers a backside view from time to time

digital topaz
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I prefer the backside view.

cold bramble
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My man

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There, 11 masks done, now to wait for Ghost

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I'm really liking Midas

tranquil gyro
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huh, he's not spawning for me.. is it tied to daytime/nighttime?

cold bramble
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I did him at daytime

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Remember to shoot the window behind the contaminated covering

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You can't actually see it, but you got to shoot it

tranquil gyro
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yeah i did that

cold bramble
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Fast travel and try again

sterile gate
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So spectre got solved?

cold bramble
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Yis

sterile gate
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by who

cold bramble
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Several people on the secret things discord

sterile gate
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nice

tranquil gyro
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gonna wait till daytime and try again, so far he's not spawning for me 😦

sterile gate
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do you need to shoot with a side arm?

south prawn
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no - should use something non automatic as you need to shoot each of them excatly once

cold bramble
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Yeah, that is a requirement

south prawn
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its not

cold bramble
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I tried with a automatic and it didn't work the first time, then I copied the dude in the video and it worked

sterile gate
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might have shot more than once

cold bramble
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Pretty sure I didn't

digital topaz
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I used an ar, but single fired each one and it worked.

sterile gate
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ill test it, ill use my rifle

cold bramble
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Must have been a slip on my end then

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Also btw you can use glasses with the masks and it looks funny as shit

terse zealot
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@tranquil gyro i hat to relogg then it worked

south prawn
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if you want the hat with the mask wear one of the spec uniforms 😄

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cross + survivalist looks dope

digital topaz
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JTF Glasses fit perfectly with the mask. Full black glasses that doesn't poke out on the side.

cold bramble
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Don't have those yet

slate comet
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Where is the Dep of Agriculture

digital topaz
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I just bought them

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

south prawn
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contamined area directly nort h of dz south

slate comet
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*Agrivulture

cold bramble
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Yeah nice, the JTF glasses like black out your eyes

digital topaz
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Aw yeah

cold bramble
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I'll probably get everything eventually like I did in Division 1, so no problem there

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Vanity is definitely harder to get in this for free than in Div 1 though.

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Have to get like 4 million experience, which might eventually be easy, but who knows

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Or even 10 million if you go for the superior cache

sterile gate
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See this is frustrating.

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I have killed every hunter but Ghost, and only have 6/8 keys

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So after I kill Ghost ill have 7/8, presumably

south prawn
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likely the christmas tree one you're missing

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that seems to bug out often

sterile gate
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No I have 11/12 masks, missing ghost

cold bramble
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Did you do spectre mask the right way?

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Wont get a key otherwise

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Or so I have heard

digital topaz
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You don't get keys from killing them by the Washington Monument btw

unreal bramble
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ppl should be at 7/8 cause UNITE wasnt solved yet right

sterile gate
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Yeah I just killed him

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and got a key from spectre

unreal bramble
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Spectre got properly solved today according to Sejadis

south prawn
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correct

cold bramble
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Yeah 7 out of 8 is the correct area

tranquil gyro
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got him! relogging worked! 11/12 now 😃

sterile gate
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I have 6/8 is the issue

cold bramble
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8 out of 8 tomorrow guys fingers crossed

digital topaz
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🤞

cold bramble
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@sterile gate Did you get both of the once by the pool?

south prawn
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@sterile gate no i mean the key drop at christmas bugs - seen multiple people me included that had to repeat that one for the key

cold bramble
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The pool tool boys

sterile gate
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I picked up both pool masks so im assumsing yes

digital topaz
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Yeah, a friend of mine also got that bug. No key or mask dropped from the christmas bois

cold bramble
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Yeah probably the christmas tree then

sterile gate
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Can i resummon, I thought you couldnt

south prawn
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me and those other could because they didnt get all rewards yet

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at least thats what i think the reason is for us beiong able to resummon

sterile gate
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well I cant test it, just turned day

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I have every mask now, I got ghost when people thought he was the stalker on the crane

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But Ghost is the only one I havent killed in game

slate comet
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i can shoot the windows as often as i want the Hunter dosent spawn

hidden dock
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you have to relog

south prawn
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you are not supposed to shoot them as often as you want - exactly once

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the lights on the truck should give you an indication when you did something wrong

tall schooner
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Anyone had the problem where a collectible is in the map and visible on the ground but i cant pick it up?

safe imp
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Its behind a wall prob

tall schooner
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No like i can literally see the phone on the ground

safe imp
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Walk closer to it?

cold bramble
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The phone stays there even after being collected

digital topaz
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Happened to me when I was playing with a friend and he picked it up. Had to leave the session and get it solo.

slate comet
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oh it worked , now the last mask and key

tall schooner
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but the map marker should be gone tho

cold bramble
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That it should

slate comet
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can you chek somehow what Hunters you have done and what you have to do

tall schooner
digital topaz
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You can check which masks you have and which you're missing.

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Unless you killed the stalkers that is

slate comet
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i killed none of the Disapering Hunters

digital topaz
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Then you should just be able to see what masks you're missing and google search it.

slate comet
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Spectre Mask , only problem every you tube vid is showing me to kill the Stalkers

digital topaz
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Spectre mask should be the last one to get solved tho at the department of agriculture. I thought atleast

slate comet
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the completly white one

swift night
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We solved USDA, @digital topaz

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Washington is only one left

digital topaz
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Yeye, that's what I meant. Poorly worded

cold bramble
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So I am missing a single SHD tech to get the last skill unlock, and I swear I have checked everywhere

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Anybody know which I might miss?

digital topaz
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I miss 3.

cold bramble
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I've also done only 91% of the side missions, yet I got none on the map

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Found one randomly in the open world, hopefully they aren't all like that

tall schooner
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Hasnt all of them been solved already? the ciphers i mean?

cold bramble
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Not the monument one

tall schooner
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I thought at the monument you just summon 2 of those guys and they drop the masks, just watched some video on it

swift night
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incorrect.

digital topaz
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They drop the masks, but not the keys that solving the cyphers give.

tall schooner
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I see, my bad! I've done the monument one up until we had the big orange circle outside the monument at night

swift night
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Yeah, taht;s where we're all stuck at

south prawn
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@cold bramble di you get all the ones you get marked on the map after activating pc in downtown west?

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and there are 5 hidenn missions

cold bramble
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Yeah, got all the SHD tech

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Working on the hidden once atm, but don't expect any of them to give me a single shd tech

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They tend to give 5 at least

south prawn
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whats you % on liberation?

cold bramble
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100%

south prawn
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there is more shd tech than needed right now btw

cold bramble
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By how much exactly?

swift night
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3?

south prawn
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something between 1 and 4 dont know the exact number

cold bramble
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If it adds up that one of the side missions give 5, then it's 4

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As I am sitting on 4 right now and got 1 unlock left

south prawn
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possible

viscid pumice
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has the last ivory key hunter been found yet?

digital topaz
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Negative

polar token
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nope

digital topaz
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People in the other discord going crazy trying to figure it out.

polar token
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Ghost is still out there somewhere

cold bramble
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So I just found a collectible by the secret side mission and can't pick it up

polar token
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waiting and watching .... 👀

south prawn
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i mean they are going crazy - dont see much figuring out going on there right now

digital topaz
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Nope. Mostly yelling at new people suggesting something for the 100th time.

cold bramble
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Sounds productive

solemn rapids
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@cold bramble is it the one up the huge ladder? The iphone looking one? I noticed that too if so

cold bramble
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There is another in the castle settlement I also can't pick up

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Weird, might be bugged

cold bramble
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i have a question. what happens after you have completed all of the missions??

worn seal
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Which missions? Endgame Missions or before Endgame?

cold bramble
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are we talking about avengers ahahhaahahah

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nah jk

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im talking about after

grim nexus
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anyone know max conflict rank?

cold bramble
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nah

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good question tho

swift night
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Good save

cold bramble
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XD

crystal bloom
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everyone know how to get the 7th key?

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here ya go, 7th ivory key

eternal shale
primal frigate
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unite is really kicking our ass

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wish ubi would confirm or deny if its bugged or not

crystal bloom
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theres already a 7th key

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its not bugged

solemn rapids
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all I know is the secret finding discord is a shitfest since the hundreds more people joined lmao

cold bramble
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is anybody else stuck on the missing campus patrol side mission? I can't seem to turn off the gas

crystal bloom
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@primal frigate those are hunter stalkers, nothing special. they drop nothing and you cant kill those

primal frigate
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????

swift night
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I mean, you can kill them, and they drop a mask you've not collected yet, but they're unrelated to the puzzle

primal frigate
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we need 8 keys all keys are related to the cyphers and we are solving the "unite" cypher what are you talking about

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im not talking about the stalkers im talking about the cypher

crystal bloom
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they dont drop anything, me and my clan have killed 3 we found and most of them run away when aimed at which makes it virtually impossible

primal frigate
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about how we get "ghost" to spawn in so we can legit get the 8th key

crystal bloom
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the 7th key has a mask on dont he?

primal frigate
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7th key dropped a mask and 8th key should be ghost

crystal bloom
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we killed the 7th like 8 times for all our people and it only dropped a key?

primal frigate
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you guys either already had the mask or you got bugged

crystal bloom
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ah prob have ot

primal frigate
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dozens of people got the mask legit today from this

crystal bloom
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idk how people found that 7th one, thats crazy

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just shooting windows lol

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have they found the 8th yet?

primal frigate
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no 8th is being hunted but there is a good lead involves a grave and candles behind it on shelves maybe shooting the candles is the last step who knows

ebon acorn
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Can you get Merciless from Hard mode?

real vale
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who would not play challenging lol

ebon acorn
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Someone who doesnt have a dedicated group and I keep getting paired with randoms without reviver hive

real vale
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hard is probably less chance than challenging to drop

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is revive hive mandatory ?

magic iris
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absolutely not, he just wants to be carries by others cause he isn't good at cover warfare

real vale
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about right

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for example if your going for the tactical commendations

spring bison
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@ebon acorn I think it only drops in challenging. I just got mine a few minutes ago

stray crown
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just got a merciless from Hard mode

ebon acorn
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Look when the rest of the team is going down outside of cover, its frustrating. No need to make attacks on people, relax

serene seal
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So, apparently the term, 'Stalker' stuck around so well, it's now the official community name for the Hunters that follow you in DC.

dawn horizon
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Is the sleepless a rando drop too? That’s the only one I don’t have

quartz jacinth
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We solve Unite?

serene seal
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No, not yet.

hard vault
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5 of Clubs, The Valiant:

This motherfucker. Calls himself, "The Valiant". You ever meet those dudes who pretend to be feminists, and then they turn out to be serial rapists, when they run for congress? Yeah, that's this motherfucker.

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Holy shit I laughed so fucking hard.

visual frigate
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all fucking day has been wasted except being in the large group that found the order to Meta

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I thought we'd be on a roll with UNITED, but nope

halcyon hemlock
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.

hollow drift
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I just found out, it has been confirmed that we will be seeing Aaron Keener in division 2

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Sometime in the future

wet tendon
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Where did you get that information from?

hollow drift
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Hardcore Lore posts and videos ^ Of course it's speculation, but to be fair, why would we not be seeing Keener?

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He has his eyes set out to destroy the whole world

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And well, most of the speculations they do with the Lore they had were right, means it might come to that?

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@wet tendon Also, it has been CONFIRMED on Ubiday in Japan that a Developer said Aaron Keener will return.

wet tendon
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Well that makes it really interesting and awesome.

hollow drift
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I mean, I speculated it myself, that maybe Aaron will return because in the Division 1 he said ,,We will see each other again'' in an Echo. So that was already a hint

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The one thing I am interested in is: How will they implement him? Will he be one of the Raids? Will he be an Expansion in the future with several missions to track him? Will he be shown in WT5 already.

sterile gate
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I miss him, he was hella badass

hollow drift
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No worries Snipes, he will be returning for Div 2 ^

wet tendon
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Yea I am eager to know as well. His character was played awesome.

sterile gate
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I know, im just saying I cant wait ^_^

hollow drift
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If they make it awesome again, then the devs made a huge jump. If they implement him in like a secret like the Hunters or so, might be cool as well

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Like, Division Agent watches scattered around D.C. And collecting them leads you to something of him

sterile gate
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Yeah ik bad guys who dont suck are cool

cold bramble
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You think ubisoft will actually do story with actual weight in future updates?

hollow drift
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To be honest, I do think that. Look at how much the Devs are currently putting into the game

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They are definetly working hard on making Division 2 a Success

cold bramble
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I was kinda disapointed with the main story

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Its the backround stuff that has story and character's even if we dont know em

hollow drift
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Actually, the story isn't that bad honestly.

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You are division agents 7 months after the downfall, trying to take back DC

cold bramble
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No but its basic

hollow drift
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Well of course, tell me how much you can do when that is literally the REASON why Division exists

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To take back cities and areas because JTF cannot control it by themselves

cold bramble
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Well they couldve done something more with it

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Maybe make the factions not as black and white

hollow drift
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It's the same concept as Division 1,y eah

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but hey, that would be literally it

cold bramble
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Maybe make the conspiracy elements and espionage more prevalent

hollow drift
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^ That is why Echo's and collectibles exist

cold bramble
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Maybe make them the main theme

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Because the main story itself doesnt even glance at that stuff

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And while i do like the collectibles they dont add much to the main story

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You listen to audio recordings of Secret service guys killing the president but you dont tell anybody about it

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Or tell anyone about the secret operatives in the city

quartz jacinth
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So I just had a stalker spawn AT the monument, on the container box buildings. When I spotted him he ran south. Dunno if that's a new spawn no one's noticed before.

cold bramble
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I think someone mentioned that on reddit

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Might be wrong

quartz jacinth
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I presume I'm not the first in all things. lol

sterile gate
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No ive seen that one before Axies

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Just a regular stalker you can kill

wet vessel
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When will be tier 5?

ancient mountain
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Is the only way to get the creative mag by doing JTC or can it be looted from other hyena caches?

daring shoal
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sweet dreams made the shotgun challenge pretty entertaining

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yes please rush me while I stand here and play one handed while eating

echo dagger
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@sterile gate they're called hunters lmao

sterile gate
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No, Mercy, they aren't called hunters.

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The ones you fight in the open world are hunters. Stalkers are the ones that watch you and disengage when you spot them @echo dagger

echo dagger
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The one u saw run away, is one of the final two hunters which requires you to one shot them or it disappears

sterile gate
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Nope.

echo dagger
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it runs to another point

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smh

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there's no such thing as stalkers in the game lmao

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they're all just called hunters

sterile gate
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Yes there are. There are stalkers and hunters.

hollow drift
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@echo dagger There actually are.

sterile gate
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😃

echo dagger
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link?

hollow drift
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Have you NOT noticed sometimes that your Hud flickers randomly?

sterile gate
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There is no link, everyone else was fed false info like yourself

echo dagger
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yeah they're just hunters, hunters do that

hollow drift
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No

sterile gate
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Nope

echo dagger
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have u not played the first game

hollow drift
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Hunters are the one you spawn

sterile gate
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^

hollow drift
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in The division 2.

echo dagger
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lmao believe what you believe then

hollow drift
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There are also new Hunters that STALK you, making your hud Flicker, and when they spot you, they run

visual frigate
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Stalkers is a player made name. It isn't cannon. Stalkers are a particular type of NPC

echo dagger
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^

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@hollow drift yes that I know

sterile gate
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Ghost and Spectre are not the NPCs you see on the crane/monument/buildings in that area

visual frigate
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There is nothign wrong with the word. It's out go to in the division secrets discord

hollow drift
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I just said that there are new hunters that act differently, that watch over you and stalk you, meaning that they got the name ,,Stalker''

echo dagger
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They're all Hunters tho, just different behaviour

visual frigate
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Home boy is correct. We solved meta this afternoon around 1

sterile gate
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^

visual frigate
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UNITED makes me want to /wrist though

sterile gate
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Yes

echo dagger
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have fun solving the last riddle

hollow drift
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What riddle?

sterile gate
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UNITED

hollow drift
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United?

visual frigate
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I'm going back over to the other discord now xD

sterile gate
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Yes

visual frigate
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have fun snipes 😛

hollow drift
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What is United?

echo dagger
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the last riddle

sterile gate
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A riddle to summon Ghost, the last hunter

echo dagger
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yeet

hollow drift
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Eh? So basically the 2 you spawn at the Monument aren't Ghost and Spectreß

sterile gate
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Correct

hollow drift
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That explains why I am missing 2 Ivory keys..

sterile gate
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Exactly

visual frigate
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We've dubbed them hunter-stalkers. They look like the hunters, but are actually act as stalkers

sterile gate
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Hence the different na,e

visual frigate
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stalkers are found all over the world and do not participate in battles

hollow drift
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Well, the most annoying thing I had to deal with, was I spawned the 4 hunters at the christmas tree

visual frigate
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but hunter-stalker is too much to say so it was shorten to stalkers

hollow drift
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and in total I fought 8.

visual frigate
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even if it was the hunter version

echo dagger
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I just generalize all of them as Hunters

hollow drift
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I found it BS that I summoned 4 Hunters and ended killing 8

echo dagger
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I want more lore on the hunters tho

hollow drift
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@echo dagger Go on youtube and search for ,,What are the Hunters in The Division''

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There's a guy who makes constant Lore videos and explains theories that could be true

visual frigate
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But that doesn't really work because they do not act as hunters should. You aren't even supposed to kill stalkers. They move immedaitely upon targeting in scope and do not have any health bars while attacking

echo dagger
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yeah but I want to know their motivation for hunting agents

hollow drift
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@echo dagger I just told you. Go look at that video, the explanations could help you understand why they attack.

echo dagger
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alright

hollow drift
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Maybe they are First Wave Agents turned Hatred, maybe they are Russian Spies disguised as Division Agents to kill them

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Many speculations

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Even so far as to ,,The Third Wave''

echo dagger
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Oh ye the theory where the division believed the first and second wave all went rogue and sent this third wave to hunt them all

hollow drift
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Could be logical. The Division 1 introduced Hunters after New York was handled, making it be reasonable to kill the Second Wave so they don't turn Rogue like the first one

echo dagger
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ya

hollow drift
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Most logical one tbh

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Also explains why they keep the SHD watches with them

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They definetly do not want that Tech to fall into other peoples hands

echo dagger
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or they're just trophies

hollow drift
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True

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But I personally think they are the Third Wave, tasked to kill them and bring back the SHD tech so it can be analyzed

echo dagger
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only time will tell

hollow drift
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Yeah, atleast they announced Aaron Keener's Return in Division 2

echo dagger
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yeet

hollow drift
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And that is confirmed

ripe loom
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Confirmed? I haven't heard anything about it, do you have a link. PM me

serene seal
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Will we be able to shoot him in the face?

prisma pebble
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imagine if you can join him.

supple moss
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Hello, I only have 5 of 8 keys but 10 masks. Is there something I'm doing wrong summoning them? The Hunter with the Wraith mask didnt drop a key for me. Is there any chance to get a key by him?

hollow drift
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No, there are 6 available normally, and 2 are locked behind riddles apparently ^

echo dagger
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there's 7 keys now

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the 7th being revealed by the riddle just today

sterile gate
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@prisma pebble id love to join him lol

crisp sparrow
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The Black Tusk are a private military contractor with ties to political and industrial leaders. They are comprised of elite soldiers that have a long history of working with the U.S. government. Their primary objective is to neutralize The Division and take control of Washington D.C.

echo dagger
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I have a feeling the president hired the black tusk

crisp sparrow
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i think it has to do with the division agent we meet in division 2 since well she went missing. or has to do with the main baddy Alex from division 1

echo dagger
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in the trailer, when the black tusk appeared, someone says 'terminate all division agents with extreme prejudice' and it shows the president's back view

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the president has been shady from the start

crisp sparrow
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i dont trust that female division agent

echo dagger
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before we started the firefight trying to save him, he was having a conversation with the mobs

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the mobs were saying how the division was on their back

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then we started the fight and he picks up a gun and starts shooting

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so yes the president is bad imo

sterile gate
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right

leaden geode
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kelso just rubs me the wrong way

sterile gate
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and we save him and the first thing he says is "Send me a helo get me outta here" not even ANY thank you

echo dagger
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yeah

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and he disappears after the black tusk appears?

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shady shit bro

crisp sparrow
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but i think black tusk is working for Alex. that female agent took that one guy and we have no clue what happened to him. and theres the fact Kelso went missing., i say we have some rogue agents on are hands

echo dagger
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that seems like a far stretch

sterile gate
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Yeah, I also like the theory that the Hunters are 3rd wave agents sent to eliminate all agents, because they have no way of telling who went rouge

crisp sparrow
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the president could be working with black tusk or was just in the way so black tusk set him up hoping he would be killed

digital topaz
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That might be why the "stalkers" exist then. To observe us and figure out if we're rogue or not.

sterile gate
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yuuuh

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division lore is way cooler than it seems on the surface

crisp sparrow
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also gotta remember all wave 2 division agents are the player

sterile gate
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oh really?

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I thought we were left over wave 1 from the cutscene

leaden geode
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No were all wave 2 agents

sterile gate
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good to know, thanks

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So in DV1 were we wave 1 or 2

crisp sparrow
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wave 2

leaden geode
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We were wave 2 in Div 1

sterile gate
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Yeah I thought that much

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Okay no I guess i knew that, just had a retard moment

crisp sparrow
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we also came from canada afther we did all the fixing needed up there

sterile gate
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I knew from the gun names like "First Wave ____"

crisp sparrow
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so canada we are first wave, when we go to usa we are wave 2

sterile gate
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thaaats what i thought

crisp sparrow
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this is also why people should watch the division canada video

leaden geode
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In the russian consulate mission when hornet captures Tchernenko we intercept radio chatter between him & Keener asking if he is allowed to engage us in combat.

Kenner responds by saying "Lets see what the 2nd wave is made of"

crisp sparrow
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messing with wave 2 though is a bad idea. like look what we did in canada we did alot to make canada safe before becoming wave 2 in new york

cold bramble
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Yet the dollar flu started in manhattan

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on black friday

dense bolt
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also i never really got what division actually is xD .. is it a super secret unit or just some sort of secretly trained militia? because everyone seems to be able to get in and most of them seem to have gone rogue x_X

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a really sucky special unit

cold bramble
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Sleeper agents of The Strategic Homeland Division

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Built to ensure continuity of government

dense bolt
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but really bad ones.. like sleeping in class -> makes you sleeper agent

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like storywise they really failed kinda bad :S

cold bramble
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Thats cause the government fucked em over in the DZ

dense bolt
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and half of them seemed to have just gone "aww, fuck this"

crisp sparrow
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i also believe the division agents are trained to have no emotion when fighting

cold bramble
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Take Keener for example, when he was still a SHD agent

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oneo f his echos show him protecting a whole bunch of civvies

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asking for reinforcements and being denied any

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That shit would make you lose faith in who you are workin for

crisp sparrow
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and look at the DZ we can go rogue anytime we want to and have no emotion when killing other division agents

dense bolt
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well i have a emotion 😄

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guess i am a bad agent too xD

livid river
#

So I killed all hunters but only got 5 keys, what can I do? Everywhere I read you get 6 keys from them...

echo dagger
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u killed all twelve?

livid river
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yep

echo dagger
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we got 7 keys now

livid river
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yeah i now, I'm jsut walking there

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yeah I have now 6...

sterile gate
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Yeah same here, I killed all 11 hunters we have solved, only 6 keys

echo dagger
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u did the one posted on reddit today?

sterile gate
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Yes

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I have 11/12 masks, only missing the one we havent solved. But only have 6/8 keys

livid river
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you can get all 12masks

sterile gate
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Yes I kno

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But thats not the point, the point is I should have 7/8 keys

livid river
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isn't it random which hunters drop keys and which don't?

sterile gate
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Idk. You're still missing the point lol

livid river
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enlighten me

sterile gate
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Regardless of which hunters drop keys or not, I have killed 11/12 we can spawn. Therefore I should have 7/8. I do NOT have 7/8, I have 6/8

dense bolt
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but cant it be that 12/12 spawns you key and oyu end up with 7/8? oO

livid river
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There'd be no problem when you only have 6 and 11 hunters...How about the 12. drops you a key...?

dense bolt
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also is the way to cheese it via visiting others people games fixed? some already got that f2000 Oo

sterile gate
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Yes if the 12th drops me a key, i will be 7/8? How does that qualify as "no problem"

livid river
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because everyone got 7/8 at 12/12 masks..?

terse zealot
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No some have less keys couse bugs , im at 5 keys

sterile gate
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yes, because they cheated masks from the stalkers

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You could have 12/12 masks and 0 keys

crisp sparrow
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im at 6 or 5 keys

terse zealot
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I did 2 hunters to early like day 3

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Key drops were buggy

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They patched that, now no keys drop from other players respawned hunters

sterile gate
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Still tho, @terse zealot we're SOL for the time being

silk lake
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@terse zealot same happened to me... :(

dense bolt
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i am sure sooner or later things will be fixed.. make a ticket or whatever is needed ^^

sterile gate
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Yeah I sent an email

silk lake
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@sterile gate did anything happen by now?

dense bolt
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i am sure they are very busy atm

vagrant sentinel
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the division 2 secrets discord makes me want to shoot myself in the face.

dense bolt
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my last ticket communication i had with ubisoft (regarding odyssey) took exactly 2 weeks for every answer and i needed 3 answers

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but in the end it got resolved x_X

hollow drift
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Is it just me or does the Merciless have ammo issues?

digital topaz
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You can get all twelve masks without getting all the keys by killing the "stalkers" near Washington Monument. Only 7/8 key riddles have been solved

hollow drift
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What is the 7th? I would love to get that key

vagrant sentinel
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go to department of agriculture (biohazard area just above middle bottom DZ)

digital topaz
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There are reports of a bug with the christmas bois in that they don't drop a key and sometimes not even a mask.

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Happened to a friend of mine

vagrant sentinel
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i don't have the picture now but you shoot the bottom panes of the windows (minus the black ones) that are on the building, potentially from the top of the box truck in front of the building.

hollow drift
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@vagrant sentinel Mind telling me that in DM's?

vagrant sentinel
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it took me like 10 tries before it registered for me, other people got it immediately

sterile gate
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@silk lake No reply

digital topaz
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Didn't work for me first time. Relogged and it worked.

silk lake
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@vagrant sentinel I just stand left of this truck and shoot ALL of the bottom windows... The hunter came at first try... And melted away seconds after my mighty and heroic appearance xD

vagrant sentinel
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dude i stood everywhere. on top, either side, in front, further back, all over, continuously fast traveling, running back, logging out, running back

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stopped fucking with it for like 2-3 hours before trying again and it still took another 3 tries before it just suddenly worked. didn't change a thing in my method. lmao

silk lake
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@vagrant sentinel before I tryed it I just just did some bountys :/.... I used a pistol to shoot the windows btw... Maybe this is helpful too ^^

sterile gate
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Also you have to make sure you shoot the one behind the cloth

terse zealot
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relogg then try the windows again

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worked for me

silk lake
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Did someone managed to find more then 10 spawn locations for the Washington monument hunters? I think there are at least 11...

swift night
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I had the issue when I was sherpaing hunters last night that you can tell if the host needs to restart by whether or not the four-way hazards on the truck are flashing.

vagrant sentinel
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meta and unite are two of the least-satisfying puzzle experiences i've had in video games

swift night
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Meta, in hindsight, is incredibly straightforward.

vagrant sentinel
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if it functioned properly for everybody i would agree

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but two people can do the same thing at the windows and one of them won't get it in a dozen tries

swift night
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Yeah, I wonder if a perfectly accurate weapon would work better. I wonder if even the slightest amount of spread causes people to hit the tarp and not the glass. It's for sure a little janky.

vagrant sentinel
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i tried everything, man. even sat there with a 12x rifle and methodically shot everything

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ultimately it worked for me using a pistol, even though i'd made like 5 attempts with pistol before that

cold bramble
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Anybody got the invite to the secrets discord by chance?

ancient mountain
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@cold bramble invite sent

dense bolt
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wth is the secret discord and why do we need one? oO dont divide communities please -.-

vagrant sentinel
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the secret discord isn't really secret, but it's a maddening hellhole where people just say the first thing that comes to mind endlessly while other people try to tell them to read

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but it never works.

south prawn
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You dont want all those people here ...

vagrant sentinel
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yeah, it's a mess. they got 30s slowmode and it's still bad.

dense bolt
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oh my 😄

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the only thing this discord is missing is a place to present all that rule34 art x_X j/k

south prawn
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Was sub 1k people yesterday and since meta was solved it went to 5k+

swift night
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All that brainpower and still no solution to Washington

hard vault
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where are the hunter masks in the boo?

swift night
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Downstairs in the command center.

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Second stairwell, not the one that goes to the shooting range.

hard vault
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thanks

cold bramble
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@ancient mountain My PM's are disabled after getting constant spam, so just give me the invite code

swift night
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You cannot post discord links in this server.

cold bramble
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But you can post the last part of the link and i'll make it myself

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Hax

visual frigate
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@south prawn 4258 actually xD

south prawn
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Close ... :P

ancient mountain
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@cold bramble I have invited you directly from the server

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@cold bramble there you go: vc6NB8

cold bramble
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👍

noble igloo
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How do I get the hunters to spawn at the christmas tree? I pull the lever then run to the tree/run around it and nothing?

ripe loom
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They should spawn a few seconds after just standing there!

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Try to relogg

cold bramble
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Pull the lever, then run around

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Has to be at night time

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Also counter clockwise

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So run from the building to the tree then right side around

ripe loom
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You don't have to run around, I simply stood there and 2 seconds later they popped in

cold bramble
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Yeah no, part of the puzzle is to run around, so do that

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Just cause the game bugged on you and skipped the objective doesn't mean it will happen for everyone

ripe loom
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What puzzle? You pull a lever and they pop out

cold bramble
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If you go by the guide yeah, there is a puzzle that bring you to the location in the first place.

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You skipped that part

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Or a cipher you can call it, that people cracked

ripe loom
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A lof of people have you stood there still, some saluted and some ran around the tree. All methods spawned them, and I never did a puzzle

real vale
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shooting range shows your exotics

cold bramble
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Please prove the fact a lot of people have done it, cause the puzzle connected with those hunters literally states you have to run around the tree.

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It's part of the way you have to spawn them according to the cipher

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You just got lucky and encountered a bug, please stop spreading misinformation in a spoiler channel.

real vale
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someone said they got no mask but then someone mentioned they were doing the quest wrong

cold bramble
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It's known to bug out, but if you don't get all the rewards you can spawn them again

ancient mountain
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I have also just stood by the tree without running around it, and they popped out, several times actually

ripe loom
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How is it spreading the wrong information if I wasn't aware of the puzzle to do it. I followed a video like tons of people, and a lot of people didn't know about the puzzle before it. Next time think before you attack me over something!

cold bramble
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Several times, yet you can only spawn them once if you actually kill them

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10/10

ancient mountain
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@cold bramble joining other players who hasn't done them, can spawn them, so as I said, several times

ripe loom
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Either way, now we know that it's a bug if they spawn by doing anything else than to run around a christmas tree. Also, if the method works because of a bug it isn't misinformation, it's just another way of doing it. I myself have tried to run around the christmas tree both ways, nothing happened, I relogged and just stood there and they spawned. Sometimes, what works for everyone else doesn't work for you.

south prawn
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nah we dont know that it is a bug he is referencing to "gather round the tree" which could mean run around yes but it also could mean just go to the tree

ripe loom
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Right, all I did was to follow a YouTube video, when that didn't work I just stood there. But again, I had no idea about this so called puzzle, I don't sit in this discord channel 24/7 so I unfortunately missed the chance when that discussion took place. Nor do I spend hours on reddit, I'm simply in this channel to find out things about TD2 before someone makes a video on YouTube about the cool things

south prawn
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you realize i was supporting you and just explaining what he is talking about?

ripe loom
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Oh yeah I know, just when I get triggered it's hard to stop

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I appreciate it!

south prawn
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no worries 😄

ripe loom
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I am patiently waiting for the 8th key though, I want the gun from the box

south prawn
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if you want the gun to use it you may wanna wait till WT5 anyways ^^

ripe loom
#

That's true, although shouldn't it drop with an upgraded blueprint?

south prawn
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its a high end not exotic so no

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at least i have not heard of any high end upgrades

noble igloo
#

Is there anyway to make it night time quicker or I just gotta wait?

south prawn
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just wait

ripe loom
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Ouch, guess I'll wait till WT5

south prawn
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like you also have no upgrade for the named p90 from roosevelt

digital topaz
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I just want the damn weapon skin

ripe loom
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I wish there was a blueprint for Emeline's P90 man

ancient mountain
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Oh, so it is a gun that's in the box for the ivory keys?

ripe loom
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Yes and some more stuff

ancient mountain
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Nice 😀

digital topaz
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Unique F2000, Ivory weapon skin and a hunter's axe backpack charm

ripe loom
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Does anyone have a pic of the weapon skin?

real vale
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f2000 itself is not unique

azure badge
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If only I didn't have 11 masks and 4 keys...🤔

real vale
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6 mask 4 key

digital topaz
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Nono, but I've heard that it's like a "special" F2000. Like Emeline's P90 for example.

ripe loom
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That's sick

real vale
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possibly

digital topaz
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Just what I've heard atleast

azure badge
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It's special but not exotic special

digital topaz
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Nono, high end

dim kindle
#

So like, the hunters, lore wise, do they know each other and are like a group or are they each their own man who goes seperately, only having ideas about the others. And what if one loses the mask by accident? Hunter vs hunter?

ripe loom
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No one knows the true story but Ubisoft and Massive unfortunately

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The books hint towards a division within the division, that could mean that the Hunters are another part of SHD

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Sort of like cops and Swat

dim kindle
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A new book comes out tomorrow or so

azure badge
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Which book?

south prawn
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and we spawn 2 hunters for a puzzle and 4 for another so it makes sense they have at least some idea

azure badge
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@ripe loom

ripe loom
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No clue, heard it from a YouTube lore channel. He referenced the books

dim kindle
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There's 1 book out so far, has lore about d1

azure badge
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I'll have to grab them...I meant to

south prawn
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didnt the 2. came out recently?

azure badge
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Forgot. So here I am.

dim kindle
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So like, since we have no concrete info, imagine those hunters just sitting at a table with each other sipping tea

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Comes out on the 26th or 29th

azure badge
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None

ripe loom
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The books name: Tom Clancy's The Division: New York Collapse

exotic zephyr
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The f2000 is called “sheild splinterer”

dim kindle
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Oof

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Makes sense

ripe loom
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I really do believe in the division within the division theory though, seems like the only logical one if you gather up all the clues

dim kindle
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What about the theory of them being the third wave

south prawn
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@dim kindle if i try to order it on amazon it say i get it tomorrow but tomorrow is also the 26th 😄

ripe loom
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The books don't lie my man

dim kindle
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Lol

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Nice, I need to pick up the book too

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Hopefully they can sell both at a cheaper price 👀

ripe loom
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Kidding, they could be a 3rd wave, seems far fetched though

dim kindle
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There's more info to go with it on one of the speculation videos about them, I dont remember all atm

ripe loom
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True

dim kindle
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But like, once the terror is over, or the peace is close to restored, their job is to wipe out the first and 2nd wave to leave no trace

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Or to ensure what happened to the first wave, doesn't happen again

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We also don't know where keener is

ripe loom
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That's impossible, people will still remember them. The quote is after all 'History will remember us' from the trailer

dim kindle
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There's some reasoning, I'm a need to look at the video again

ripe loom
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This hunter mystery is truly fascinating though

dim kindle
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It is

quartz jacinth
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Do the books detail how many of us there really are? Because by player count we're a full fledged army.

dim kindle
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And why their so powerful

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There are division agents across the whole country

quartz jacinth
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Right, but is it millions?

ripe loom
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Yes, I'd say it's close to 50K at max

dim kindle
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And if they're the "strategic homeland division" (I think that's what shd stands for) think of the amount of people in homeland security

quartz jacinth
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Hmm. That'd be pretty hard to erase for sure.

dim kindle
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Then how many hunters would there be

ripe loom
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But that's just the first wave, the second wave could be another 50K and if the hunters really are the third wave, that's probably 40K hunters

dim kindle
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Jesus

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Think of 40k hunters

ripe loom
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But that's across the entire US

quartz jacinth
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But if you have to employ 40k people to get rid of 50 (or 100) thousand other people, who's going to get rid of those 40k? And so on, down the line.

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Think I lean more towards they're to prevent another Wave 1 problem, than to erase the evidence.

ripe loom
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Right, that's a question we don't have the answer for. All we know is that the hunters in D1 and D2 is unknown, except for their gear and their looks

dim kindle
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Keener's situation exactly is what they want to prevent

quartz jacinth
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Are the Hunters SHD? Why don't we get that kind of gear?

ripe loom
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We also know that they're better in combat, extremely familiar with SHD tech and supperior to any faction

dim kindle
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They have gear superior to division agents

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And if their apart of shd, since we went to DC, that means they've come for us?

quartz jacinth
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Apart or a part? Because those mean the opposite of each other.

dim kindle
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A part

ripe loom
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I don't think they're out to kill us in D2, every enocunter with them so far has been us attacking them and not them attacking us

dim kindle
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Maybe their waiting for someone?

quartz jacinth
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The stalkers don't even fight back, just magician away asap.

ripe loom
#

Keener

dim kindle
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They have their own target

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But keener recruited them though

quartz jacinth
#

Could they be the remains of wave 1 or is that covered somewhere?

swift night
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I don't think they're shd

terse zealot
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there are different theories

ripe loom
#

I doubt Keener is behind it, he's too ignorant and proud to make something like that

dim kindle
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Not much of wave 1 should exist, they were trapped in the darkzone

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In nyc, keener made the hunter group

swift night
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Seriously, they were such a small group. That's why everything went to shit

terse zealot
#

theres a theory that the goverment sent the hunters after all the wave 1 rouges

swift night
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@dim kindle can you get me the evidence of that?

dim kindle
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Of which part

terse zealot
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we dont know if keener is behind the hunters

swift night
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Keener recruiting the hunters

ripe loom
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How many agent got sent into DC so far, does anyone know?

dim kindle
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Ok nvm, he recruited first wave agents to get back at the government, not the hunters

ripe loom
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You, Kelso, the one you save in that mission and 4 or 5 in the same mission but dead right?

swift night
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All active agents were ordered to DC, to my knowledge. The green poison has burned itself out, we're on a different mission now

quartz jacinth
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What is our mission now?

dim kindle
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We've come to DC after the stage of the virus

ripe loom
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Right, DC never had a first or second wave right?

dim kindle
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So we're securing the peace from the factions

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We never heard of one

swift night
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First wave was only NYC, ground zero of the poison.

dim kindle
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Yea

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They got trapped in the dz though

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Most of them

swift night
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Yeah. Locked in when the wall went up.

ripe loom
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Of course, what I meant is that DC never got any wave, except for you and those in there? Was there a official wave?

dim kindle
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Hm

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We don't know that yet I don't think, unless someone collected all the echos in game

swift night
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I think second wave activation was EVERYONE ELSE, so they probably went to ground wherever they were. We know that Michigan has some shd working with the doctor from the first game on the broad spectrum antiviral

ripe loom
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I've seen a few echos from agents that were in Div1, and they're weren't rogue either

swift night
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I've only got Keener ones, and a few of 2nd going Rogue, or the one echo of kelso and whatsername from Theatre in a shootout with hyenas

ripe loom
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I found one with Kelso and one or two agents trying to stop the True Sons leader

swift night
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The arrest one near DZ south? I thought that was JTF?

ripe loom
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The one at the cera camps at the monument?

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Pretty sure they're division agents

swift night
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Hm. I'll have to go check again

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I'd believe it though. Kelso has apparently been all over the damn city

ripe loom
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She has 😂

south prawn
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at least one at cera is divisioon yes

ripe loom
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Thought so, she was a female as well if I remember right

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In southwest there's an echo with rogue's apparently

swift night
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At the CP? With the "pretty good quality smg"?

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I loved that one

ripe loom
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No clue, I'm looking at a site stating all locations in the game

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This game's story is amazing, aspecially the small stories from Comms and Echos

swift night
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Yeah. Dudeman has done some great work

ripe loom
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Aye, I'm already waiting the the stories in The Division 3 😂

swift night
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I'm hoping the raids and incursions have more lore

ripe loom
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Same, I wanna know more about the SHD universe, hopefully through the content updates with Episode 1,2 and 3

swift night
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Yeah. Honestly we need to know more about the hidden faction too, those silent nupty freaks

ripe loom
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Aye, I bet they'll never tell us. Ubisoft is pretty good at keeping secrets in games...

swift night
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Massive is good about putting it in, though.

ripe loom
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That's what I meant, totally 😂

swift night
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Reading kelsos reports on the enemies when they kill you is great

jagged igloo
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i found a way easier way to get the spectre mask

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spolier alert ^ 😛

south prawn
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you get the mask that way yes but not the key

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and you can get all the masks by killing the random stalkers

jagged igloo
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hmm

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didnt think about the key

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but i wanted the mask

swift night
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Washington hasn't been solved yet

south prawn
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specter is meta

swift night
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Ah, good to know. So that makes Washington ghost

jagged igloo
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weird i have 6 keys @south prawn

south prawn
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you got the mask there so i assume you havent done the meta riddle properly yet - that would make it 7 and the unsolved unity is #8

jagged igloo
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what is the riddle? 😄

south prawn
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you want the actual riddle or the solution?^^

jagged igloo
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both 😛

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pm me xd

ancient mountain
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Is meta meaning Most Effective Tactic Available? Lol 😅
Or what does it mean exactly? 😂

south prawn
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its spoiler channel its fine

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the unsolved one is:
SCAN THREE LOST SOULS
FIND THE TIME TO PAY RESPECTS
SOULS HONORED
AFTER DARK RETURN TO FIRST MONUMENT
AND RELEASE ANOTHER

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the one for specter :
AGRARIAN TRUCKS
SIGNAL THE RIGHT PLACE
A WRONG TURN (the missing line)
THEYLL PUMP THE BREAKS
ONE F(OR?) ONE
AIM WELL BREAK THE
GLASS A GREAT REWARD
AWAITS YOUR ASS

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meta was the name the community gave the 2. puzzle i just posted

slender zealot
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Question does anyone know if the Sharpshooter 93R is bugged or if it is only supposed to do 149 damage at lvl 30 when theres other pistols doing 10k a shot?

ancient mountain
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So meta is what, just a name or does it have more meaning to it?
Is the 2nd riddle the newest one?

jagged igloo
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my pistol does 45k damage 😛

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i prefer my bfs pistol, bullet free LOL

swift night
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Meta: (of a creative work) referring to itself or to the conventions of its genre; self-referential. Meta was the community shortened name for metamorphosis, the name of the artwork the cypher was printed on.

south prawn
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@ancient mountain i dont know how we came to meta exactly but the puzzle was in a butterfly mural so from there

swift night
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Hawk boy: the specialization weapons are currently bugged to be stuck at level 30, not scaling up to level 450

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The second puzzle sej posted us the most recent one to be solved.

south prawn
swift night
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It's not a bug it's a feature!

ancient mountain
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@swift night @south prawn Great, thx for the explanation guys! 👍😀

floral glen
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is Liberty easy to get? 😕

ripe loom
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Yes and no, getting the exotic pieces and blueprint is easy, but getting a High End D50 to drop is a different story. As long as you have a GS 250 Deagle it's done!

floral glen
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Do you need survivalist active with the pistol skill for it to drop?

ripe loom
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No

south prawn
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i have way to many hours played and a nice round 0 HE deagles 😦

floral glen
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Should I wait until WT5 to craft exotics?

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So I don't need to upgrade?

swift night
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Ideally. But it can upgrade in the future so if you WANT to play with a new toy, don't feel constricted

ripe loom
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The D50 is sadly random drop, although the more rewards a mission give the higher the chance. Well, in order to upgrade a exotic all you need is exotic materials and the actual exotic weapon. Exotic materials can so far be gathered by dismantling exotic weapons!

rigid sapphire
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Anyone else feel like the world at WT4 is too populated with patrols? I feel like i cant explore without being shot at every couple of seconds

south prawn
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well the other upgrade blueprints require exotic material which probably comes from deconstructing exotics - so if you dont have a spare one maybe its better to wait

ripe loom
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I'd say, make a Liberty now, decounstruct that, that'll give you 2 exotic materials. Then farm for the parts and the D50, then just wait till WT5 and GS 500 is out!

south prawn
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yeah that what i was thinking but definitely only going to to that after i got 2 deagles

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which means after WT5 ^^

swift night
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Take control of your CPs, it makes getting shit done a lot easier

ripe loom
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I have so far gotten two Liberty's, decounstructed one, and the one I have now I will deconstruct as well since I have a D50 just laying in my stash!

rigid sapphire
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@swift night but they get taken down dont they so its just a never ending grind of clearing them?

south prawn
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gimme one 😦

ripe loom
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Yes

swift night
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Yep

ripe loom
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I would if I could man

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I've probably gotten 10 ish D50's in my game so far, that's from my 111 hours of playing

swift night
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People bitched there wasn't enough to do in the LZ in D1. Well they fixed that.

ripe loom
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They sure did

quartz jacinth
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So much to do I gave up. lol

south prawn
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113@0 😦

quartz jacinth
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Now I just stare at the monument in confusion.

ripe loom
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Ouch

rigid sapphire
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What happens if i clear them all and they are all green at the same time? do they still get taken away from me?

ripe loom
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Probably everntually

quartz jacinth
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Are we supposed to be saving D50s? Concern intensifies

ripe loom
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It's made like that so there's always things to do in the game.

swift night
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Yes. You can see event convoys going to attack the CP, and you can kill them and stop the flip

ripe loom
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Well, save the D50's if you want the Kendra's Liberty Deagle. Otherwise no, just trash them

quartz jacinth
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I've been trashing them every time I get a better one. Up to 150k headshots on elites with it.

ripe loom
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Also save a P90 if you wanna make the Chatterbox

quartz jacinth
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Never seen a P90

ripe loom
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High End and gear score 250 at least of course

swift night
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Chatterbox does not require a p90

ripe loom
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It doesn't, oh okey

quartz jacinth
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Just requires the 4 box parts?

ripe loom
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Nice one, I wont go for it because of the green smoke thing. Don't like it

quartz jacinth
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That's what I should be doing with my time right now. I want to get a Chatterbox.

ripe loom
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Farm keys and open Hyena caches

quartz jacinth
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Yep. Liberty is the one I hadn't heard of.

ripe loom
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Liberty is easy except for the D50

swift night
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I thought the same thing. I was told differently

slender zealot
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How hard if only two in a group?

ripe loom
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Matchmake for the rest of the guys in the missions, easy

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Actually you can solo every mission on challenging

slender zealot
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Played everything up till world tier 1 as a 2 person group, no problems so far, just have to be careful

swift night
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Roosevelt island on challenging is the worst I've had so far. Everything else is just about positioning

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Tankx was there. It was bad.

ripe loom
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Very true, although I've had an easy experience on Roosevelt until the last maintenance. No clue if that's why, but I swear it was easier before that

swift night
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It's just that last bit

ripe loom
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Oh yeah, that's crazy with the waves

swift night
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It's such a cluster fuck of no cover

noble igloo
#

Anyone have trouble getting revenant + midas hunter to spawn with the jumping jacks?

ripe loom
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I didn't, but a guy I helped never got them to spawn

noble igloo
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Yea I can't get em to spawn, doing it in exact same spot as videos

ripe loom
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That's a shame

noble igloo
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Ugh ill try a relog i guess

inland prawn
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@noble igloo you did it at night time?

swift night
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Try facing straight towards the open container. It was iffy for me my first summon, too

noble igloo
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It was the night time thing.. It was a storm so I thought it was night time lol

hardy parrot
#

can you play tidal basin yet?

digital topaz
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No

hardy parrot
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ooh lmao

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i was all confused

digital topaz
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No confirmed release date yet

weak moth
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hey so does anyone know about the riddle for the 8th key? i got 1-7 but i was wondering do we even know what the last riddle is?

digital topaz
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Nope. It's currently being worked at.

weak moth
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i got on the riddle discord but no one is talking about it

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so they havent even found it yet?

digital topaz
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It's all they're talking about if you look in the right channel.

weak moth
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uhmm do you know which channel that is?

digital topaz
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They're stuck on the last step.

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They've redone it, so you have to go to welcome and read there to gain access to it.

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It's the unite channel

weak moth
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ok cool ill check it out

real vale
#

maybe we get some info in tomorrow sotg

wintry tusk
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Still no progress in D2 Secrets

civic yarrow
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is D2 secrets bugged for you guys too

digital topaz
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They redid it, so you have to check the welcome channel and gain access.

amber quartz
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SO UH, MY GAME CRASHED WHILE I WAS SHOOTING OUT LIGHTS INSIDE THE WASHINGTON MONUMENT LOBBY(ignore the caps, im not retyping that)

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dunno if i hit a trigger for something or what

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i was doing it at night after activating the button and also after (failing) to kill the stalker hunter guy on the building to the slight NW

ripe loom
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What's the issue though? Just launch the game and everything should be fine

amber quartz
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not an issue

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the severe lag spike and then crash was only after I shot out a few lights in a specific order

ripe loom
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Oh, alright sound. The game has it's way to crash, mine usually do it while being close to a lof of people before loading in things

amber quartz
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i dont care about the crash, i just think i might have activated something that lead to the crash

ripe loom
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Could very much be the case

amber quartz
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its interesting, I'll try recreate it

ripe loom
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Do it, if you figure something out, that might be the last hunter and the 8th key

amber quartz
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not gonna get my hopes up but itd be neat to finally figure it out heh

swift night
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Or it could just be something stupid like the game having to track all the lights and when they're supposed to regenerate causes a memory leak or something ridiculous

amber quartz
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or that haha

rich ice
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Not sure if anyone else has come across this as of yet; but for the second time I've noticed a hunter on the roofs near The Vault CP on H ST NW & 16th ST NW. I haven't been able to get a shot on him with the 50 cal yet but he is a quick one for sure.

thorn stratus
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if the hunter doesnt actively fight you then its not a correct sypher solution

digital topaz
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They've been named Stalkers and they "follow" you almost everywhere. Always on rooftops or in inaccessible windows etc.

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Not meant to be killed, but if killed they have a chance to drop a mask you don't have yet and/or a high end.

vast viper
#

can hunters be summonsed again if youve killed them?

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when i fought revenant and midas i killed one but the other dissappeared and i cant find him

digital topaz
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I think you should be able to then yes.

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Or you might have to do it in a friend's session.

amber quartz
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okay, so i think i've realised something

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y'know the hunter that spawns on the roof slightly NW of the Washington Monument?

fiery swallow
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did the game release yet?

amber quartz
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I've never had him spawn for me before pushing the button

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yet all the other "stalkers" spawn freely

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I'm not 100% but I think he's part of the next step of UNITE

digital topaz
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Puzzle solvers would behead you for naming the Stalkers as they are pretty sure they don't have anything to do with it.

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But who knows

ripe loom
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I was matchmaking for bounties, got into someone's lobby and after the bounty he left. So I'm still in here, thing is that he haven't played the Hunter introduction mission and I'm GS 450 now. I'm gonna try to kill that hunter and see what happens

swift night
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You won't, it's scripted I believe.

ripe loom
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Ah really?

swift night
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Yeah. Stuns you after you do enough damage. I've run it a few times

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Still a cool ass mission though

amber quartz
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I mean he might not be as much of a "stalker" as we think, when he spawns he aggroes immediately then runs away, the rest of the "stalkers" never aggro immediately(in my experience). Also noticed that the "hunter fight" music plays as soon as he aggroes, meanwhile with other "stalkers" it doesnt play at all

ripe loom
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That's a shsme

swift night
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He goes all wow raid boss "Enough! I tire of this!" And then runs away

ripe loom
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I can confirm that he doesn't die, I shot him with 4 MGL shots and the same thing happened. Note, one of my shots kill a regular hunter so with 4 he should've been more than dead. He didn't activate his hunters in that game either, so I took a crack at the one who was in the same building with the shooting targets. Fun!

vagrant sentinel
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you did it, you found the secret

ripe loom
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What secret?

swift night
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The secret to true happiness

ripe loom
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That I did, killing hunters is very fun!

primal frigate
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Unite still hasnt been solved and at this point there was like 100+ people all searching all over the WM im betting that its bugged there is no way it hasnt been found yet if it isnt bugged or just stupid super simple

ripe loom
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Talking about secrets, I do highly believe that the 8th ivory key has something to do with the monument since there's so much static around doing those actions and all. Those hunters that are suppose to spawn, will spawn around those places without activating the puzzle

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Correction, stalkers

primal frigate
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it is related to the monument that is 100% confirmed people that say "maybe its not WM" are just fucking dumb we have solved 2 steps 100% and maybe solved the 3rd step and are now at the last step once you are on the last step there is static in a certain area around the WM just like where other hunter spawns

prisma cedar
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@primal frigate indeed, even if it's "simple", sometimes the lamp (who display the orange circle) will stay permanently on even during the day. So we dunno if it has a link with the riddle or not

ripe loom
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Exactly, the question is still though, how do you get it? Could the word 'unite' have something to do with it, meaning that SHD agents have to Unite to solve it?

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Like in gama

digital topaz
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A dev has said that as far as they know it's not bugged.

primal frigate
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you are saying the red ring that apears after activating the computer that is the same red ring on the computer screen is not known to be connected?

ripe loom
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Have ya'll guys tried doing salute or something within the lamp circle?

primal frigate
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@digital topaz link to where that was said?

prisma cedar
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nope, i'm saying that sometimes it shuts off at 5am, sometimes it stays even the day after. (tried by the same person)

ripe loom
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Are there anymore buttons to press within the WM anywhere, except for the Hydden quest thingy ?

primal frigate
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that is known already and is said to probably be a bug considering the computer step is only available at night

prisma cedar
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making this riddle million times harder than the others, and even having a bug (seems) during his steps.... it doesn't help at all hahaha

primal frigate
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i really wana see a link to which ubisoft dev said it wasnt bugged @digital topaz

viral dragon
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im assuming people have trried to shoot the lights and what not at the little stone house to the south west of the WM? that building looks awfully important

eternal shale
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What light?

viral dragon
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there is 3 lightbulbs in the basement of the stone house, along with a couple lantern lights

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also street lamps are blinking around the house

digital topaz
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One sec

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On my phone. Not sure how to easily share that pic. Could you pm me, @primal frigate ?

ripe loom
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I bet the devs and mods are just sitting there laughing at us because we can't solve this. And it's really right infront of our eyes 😂

safe imp
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I mean they designed it themselves so no wonder lol]

swift night
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I dropped into dudemans stream yesterday for a while. Can confirm, laughing.

ripe loom
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Haha legend

swift night
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He's the narrative designer too. So this is all his fault

eternal shale
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Is that the one in that flooded area?

primal frigate
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there is static during the day for the unite cypher

viral dragon
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yeah southwest of the WM, with the blinky street lights

primal frigate
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no there is a ring NE of the WM of static which is thought to be where the hunter is going to spawn since its like that for the rest of the other hunters

eternal shale
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Thought about that also, found another house a few days ago with many bushes and trees around thought this could be interesting also but dunno

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But have to look where this was

viral dragon
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could this house not be a step before going there? the stone house is perfectly identical and is the oldest building in dc

ripe loom
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What about the theatre to the south of WM? Might be it

eternal shale
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Thats a hunter spawn point, don’t know if its involved

viral dragon
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im going to go to the house and mess around then go to the NE spot... does it go static during the day

ripe loom
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I’m scared running around the WM, cause we now something is close...

safe imp
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is ur UI permanently glitchy

swift night
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You're always being watched

ripe loom
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No, still scary cause at any point I might run into a hunter right

safe imp
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not at WM

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all they do is hide in some obscure spots and run the moment they see you

primal frigate
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those arent hunters those are stalkers completly different and non related to the cyphers

ripe loom
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I wasn’t talking about the stalkers, I was talking about the 8th key holder

swift night
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I mean you'll probably have to do something obvious

primal frigate
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once we figure it out its gonna seem dumb how simple it was

swift night
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Just like meta!

safe imp
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hunters playing running sim 2019