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nah i dont
ill attack them tomorrow
i mean after lohars
or when someone does rally
since it requires no ap
ill just jump in
but do you think it's worth
?
drops the same rewards as baular, basically means more gems, yes
iirc I sent 200k T4 and bro folded
No set pattern
when you train is the most likely thing to appear
i see
About a year
after season 1 which is season 2 or kvk2
playing young kds
I'm confused now
does action point never reset to 1500 ap daily
It can, but you generally shouldn’t let the bar fill fully
ty
if your march as f2p is inf + cav how often should you train archer (Assuming siege is consistently trained as t1 since gather)
troop usage efficienly-wise
You shouldn’t be mixing troop types in your marches
Just train a mix of all and prioritize speedups on your main type
Closer to 70-80
alright
is buying the advanced dailies worth it for achilles? i can get like 50 achilles sculptures , got 12 and 11 on day 1 and 2.... that combined with dailies avg of 3 gives me 65 in 5 days?
just wanted to check value cuz it gives low vip pts and no ap when compared to dailies
quick question when u want to use beginners teleport does the kd have to be a day old to allow us to tp?
Courier station
When will the sleepers be disabled?
If you have beginner teleport you can teleport anytime
it already was
Not sure if it is or when it will be
is it this or is there another way of using beginners teleport
Was or is?
Teleport and migration are two different things
lilith disabled migration kvk1 exclusively
ahhh okay, could u tell me how to tp to the new kd?
so we gotta go through kvk1 first
you zoom out and pick a zone to teleport to, generally best to use it to teleport to your alliance members
?
Alr so if i create a new acc friday i dont need to worry about passport and sleeper
okay thanks g
yeah, play like normal or minmax
Alr
You can't anymore Lilith disabled it for kingdom outside your region (the 4 kingdoms bracket) before kvk 1
oh ok
Still says preparation season tho
I think you can migrate but only on your region
Then u can still have around a 5 days advantage
Someone did migrate out of region in these newer kingdoms he said that
That's why aren't sure if they have already implemented or not
Nothing is known at this point everyone is just confused 
lilith is weird, they said they're gonna limit migration in kvk1 but which one is limited but now it's not limited but now what they said is useless

Fr that's lilith not clearing these type of things in their patch notes
they DID explicitly said they're gonna pick kingdoms as pioneer kingdoms to test out the migration limits but after that no news lol
The are just some smart ass playing from both sides saying something and adding words like that
i tried to join an allience to the kd i wanted to but it didnt let me join it n when i look at the map its all fog so i cant tp
ts weird
5-5 charles w exp ysg or expertised sun tzu with expertised ysg kvk 2
Is your account currently in that kingdom? You don’t need to see the alliance area to join the alliance
Sun
nope i wanna join a newer kd
am in lethian trying to go to belcas
You can’t
It’s not possible
even if i got beginners tp?
Beginner’s TP does not allow migration
No TP allows migrations
To move around your current kingdom
damn okay wasted my time, thanks for the help
You’re welcome
on
no
i have a question
with regards to expedition commanders
should it be
example
primary - sun tzu
secondary - markswoman
should the troops be more inf + archer?
let's say
sun tzu + caocao
= troops be more inf + cav?
sun tzu + joan = inf + siege
tomoe + cc = arch + cav
when is mtg
btw
what's the purpose of power spreading among your commanders @thorny falcon
ive seen u with 200k
is it to get into top clan
Around 20th last month if I remember correctly. I'm not sure though
Power increase
I don't use them and you don't mix troops. Infantry primary goes with infantry /leadership secondary
Leadership comms are universal types
It is shown on the page in game. The number needed for you
are thr CH and acedmay pop ups worth the money?
i see so if that's the norm,
sun tzu primary, leadership comm secondary then only infantry troops
so in 6 days
the troops depends on the primary commander, so inf the commander is if then pure inf, leadership then mixed, same with others
Around 25
Nah it isn't
If you're a whale it is
Otherwise no
oh ok
i bought every pop when i made my main - is it worth the money , probably not , but it gives a ton of boost though
no infa -infa > infa-leadership always
but in kvk 1 run sun with aeth (infa with leadership) because aethelflaed heads are free + debuffs enemies + aoe
yes, but thats for your case, idk wwhat im gonna do with my acc prob gonna migrate to a younger kd in 10 days
why
this guy lowkey better than markwoman for vengeance
right
Vengeance is not a that much of a big event to give that much importance lol it will end once you enter kvk 1
Focus on commanders for field, gathering and peacekeeping purposes
You can use them as vengeance commanders on the way
gathering = gather resource
peacekeeping = barbarians
field
field is what
expedition?
hey what usually happens when the top 1 alliance (which has like 3 other alliance with the same name as them, they go under 1 banner; top 1, 2, 3, 5)
told us that they're taking the same sanctum as us
is that a way of telling us to move away from that sanctum?
Rok main event for which players play is kvk (kingdom vs kingdom) and you need field commanders for that for fighting
Yep
It is
if i put gatherers at rss, peacekeeper at barbs, during non-kvk phase, where do my field commanders go? like sun tzu and cc (do they serve no purpose as of the moment and is a commander to assist barb as there is no field yet)
so we'll probably back off
is the consequences of not backing off is a fight?
Yeah
And if you don't have a whale don't think of fighting
You still need strong commander
Cuz there are events and objectives to claim too
damn those top alliances must be greedy
we're at the edge of the map, and they still telling us to back off from the sanctum
If they have more players who are spending they need more resources and things to make the players satisfied
wait, is it beneficial for the entire kd if top alliance monopolize sanctum
for kvk?
Yeah it is
ill try to join the top alliances instead fuck it
Cuz they are the main power of your kingdom
so long-term, backing off is okay?
Just it's not beneficial for you
what will be the short term issue if we didnt get a sanctum since the top dogs are tellign us to back off
If you ain't in top1 2 or 3 alliance you won't even get a chance to fight in kvk
wtf
how can an f2p join a top 3 alliance then
good question
we dont?
They do by grinding and all of you stay active play daily you can
allright ill try
Cuz at last that will be where kingdoms all active players will be
Rest alliances have players who just login once a week
alright if this dont go well
ill plan my next kd, and do this
so i can be competitive with rss
but last question
are sanctums determinants of something?
will this sanctum event determine the entire dynamics of our kd
Like it gives rewards and boosts and bonuses
So it makes the players stronger as well
Yeah you need rss now to get your buildings and tech higher
thanks
But in kvk it will be for healing and training troops
You need like 1b resources each acoording to your troop type
Like inf needs food wood and gold
which is better for aethelflaed as rallying barbarians forts? i can also craft the green boots and get extra 4.5% dmg against barbarians, but is it really worth it? ( i run aeth + cc, 5552/5531 but with mixed troops )
That thing is a sleeper for your sleeper 
You make a account like sleeper to give your sleeper a boost
Like resources and all stuff t
You use your main equipments for forts too who makes a different just for forts and barbs killing ??
idk bro im just asking, dont let me feel stupid xd
You use one march right ?
yeah
i can dismantle them, not a problem
Yeah just don't dismantle the shoes rn
If you have blueprints and make something good on your main dismantle it now otherwise dismantle it when you get them
Keep the accessories
For now
only the green ones, shoes are part of the set
im keeping the accessories ofc
Yup only the green and purple ones don't dismantle it in one go take it with time when you need mats and etc. cuz can be used for your second march in events
For forts use your main
Does it matter if im in the top 3 or top 1 alliance if they are family?
It does
how so
Hi, i wanna run another kd with archery, i buy gems deposit and the daily gems, i going to sleep and try get YSG. What march i going to use before get YSG?
you COULD use herman and aeth to avoid wasting too much
but if u wanna spike you can use thutmose and aeth or thutmose herman
Cuz you are in top 3 or top1 means you have a free ticket to kvk
Guys can anyone give me tips, i only have 61k power
Below top 4 or 5 they don't even allow players to enter kvk
im in the top 3 rn should i aim to get into top 1 is my question
i can get into top 2 easily if it mtters
Can anyone give me tips, just started todays and i only have 61k
watch "rok firefly" or "12inchpvpness starter guide"
Alright thanks
You should cuz top 1 and top 2 will be the one to fight for pass
and if u have time watch chisgule beginner guide
And they will be there for every fight
Whereas top 3 don't get chance to fight in passes
Alright I'll do that, i needed to achieve 1M power for a bet:) and a side quest for a game
most fighters are in top 1 and top 2, while the rest are just support for fill or killed off
the top 3 seem the strongest in my area for now
oh ok
in your years of playing, has there ever been a top alliance who told a lower ranking alliance to move away from the sanctum; went through negotiation and actually give the sanctum rights to the lower ranking alliance
Archers is a whale specific thing isn't recommended
gl
Thanks
Always
That's the normal thing in rok
i play for a month and it just happened
yes
them on your side worth more than a buff
I wanna try
If you have money to support it sure
Its my first time whit archers
Otherwise it's a bad investment
thut aeth then thut ysg, if you can't achieve that then herm aeth ig
i wonder what's the exchange
if the top alliance would be willing to do us a favor
They won't zero you 
if youre strong enough to aid them in kvk
In this month i can start to legal job and get a +1300 EUR monthly
they wont mind it
That's the favour
oh yea also that
they'll eventually take the sanctum back for buffs during kvk
i mean our whale is negotiating with them
we have whales on our side too, but they just happen to have more
if the leader of the top alliance asks for the sanctum just pack it man
Sure then you can do thut YSG
they're kinda do
@thorny falcon hey
just give it to them
has valhalla in your 73 been thugging it out
the buff isnt worth the risk of getting zerod
That's your salary or rok spending ?
save half of it and eventually you have 650 Euro, use up 325 euro monthly for it, I wouldn't recommend spending alot when you don't know what to do, I really recommend to ask questions related to spending before proceeding it
or watch spending guides
Salary, Its 1300 or 1500
Then go with cat advice
I would recommend not to spend btw but if you want to follow as cat said
Cat advice?
tbh with a 1500 euro salary i would stick f2p
@weak falcon this
maybe low spend on a good month
Yeah true
i allow myself to low-mid spend and I earn like 8k usd a month ON A GOOD MONTH
I not have more to do whit my salary, i can get money for a bike per exemple
8k before tax ofc :((
this early
when barbs are garrisoning then no
or a neutral unit
nah don't give money to lilith
Ty
@fringe sable about the alliance thing does it still matter if all top 4 alliances are from the same family?
If im in the top 3 or top 2/1?
yes
different families will cause civil wars
so pick a family that are competent and have more whales
are you in 73?
forgivenstar
cause that's the current situation in 73
and we're getting thugged out by that big family
so im here at question asking for usual kd dynamics
Im in 4067
pick a family that won, I recommend to shut your mouth as people will have bad beef towards members of that specific family
@quaint harness I would give them the sanctum if i was in your shoes
Do i refine to stage 2 or awaken first?
My KD has the Demon family that ssid they will take over the KD but my family the divine ended up being stronger so they are now jaut hated
i actually want to give them the sanctum
Only the resources ones and only after kvk 1
When you have enough resources that these look like pennies to you
i mean it wont hurt another member in the family, we're also in the top 10
tempting
Ill tell you what my family control the top 5 spots and the other family is lurking around top 7 so they aren’t a match really my question is if I’m already in the top family does it matter if I’m the top 3 family alliance or the top 2 one?
after i reach vip 6, i have no business in using gems for vip right
unless i want to be low spender
Yea
Lvl 6 is super important for builder
we only get vip 6 for xtra builder
Next milestone is 12 and 14
It is
As f2p rush vip 6 and than buy gip in MTG events and eventually you’ll get there
Its a good deal try to offer to be one of their academy alliance
I wouldnt thug it out if they say no because they could just zero you
yall need to chill on alliances, just wait and watch, if your alliance is sinking immediately switch to the best one
and have peace shields ready incase things go south
hey unknown
I mean why im asking it is because thr difference between my alliance and the ine above me is like almost 100m power difference
dont get too attached to your current ones - 90% of these players cant sustain either grind or spend and will quit anyway
hey !
how's your alliance going? is valhalla thugging u up too
And the djfference between memine and the one below me suts in maybe 3 mil
nope aeth is forever
ty
this i think only building speed is good
dont buy those speeds, im a spender in my main and i dont buy them either
aight
focus on vengeance and expedtion bro
dont get into alliance stuff ignore them, you need alliance rn for helps alone
how many are your troops as of the moment
if u doing expedition
i got stucked on 13
i mean 14
just 1 , im using mina - cc cuz i dont have sun or baibars
ill switch out cc when i get baibars
Is being weird and freaky a norm in this game I just unlocked my chat and already saw 2 people talking about feets and some asking if anyone wants se6
stick at lvl 10
nope
it's the norm in my english 1 too
I know you....
It's me xiaomao...
they are just perverts, when i get really irritated i take screenshots and get them muted by support 
xiaomao
HOLY
i freaked xiaomao earlier
on kingdom chat
anyway i have question
just t2 cav im working and grinding on main cuz an event is going on lol
What a coincidence
no, most of those guys are just being edgy
hell yeah xiaomao
Nothing edgy about feet
kvk is 70 days away from a 1.8 day old kingdom
why is power struggle to be in top 10 alliance so tense to be considered for kvk 1
when there's still 70 days
@thorny falcon last question
what's ur ch as of the moment
Me 👀
Ring isn’t at all equal to 5% dmg increased buff on avg. idk how you calculated this, but it’s wrong. Math aren’t mathing
are you the person who makes python scripts for dmg calculations in chadski's kd?
what's that
nevee heard of it
chadski mentions that there is someone called davor in his kd who writes python scripts for dmg calculations etc in his vids
and runs simulations to find out best equips etc
Yeah we know him
What's kvk
He's the one of the guys who did all these mathematics in rok
i think 10
Ohhh
im going 12 tonight once im done with work
220k ish
ah yea u have mina
yeah kinda 20 usd
I'm still new. Am I gonna be a part of it?
Do I need to fight for my kingdom too?
I have 32k power I think that's enough right?
How you replying to a msg week old 
in 70 days
not yet
That's 2 months later no need to tense
Prepare for now
there's got to be someone who writes python, davor is a math guy
And wait yeah that's not davor who does python coding it's speckoh I guess
is milky way any good?
What does YSG mean
Like depends but if said simply if you don't know how to customize gears on your own then don't go for it
Oh thank you
When you are ch25 or when your kvk fight starts (whichever comes first)
thanks
i have 2 of it should i js go for the set piece instead?mind u i dont have the bp but egg is on friday so i hope to get it
Go for set piece to not complicate it much
4/2
4db and 2 kvk or 6 db
how much is this in ur place
ive seen someone send this, and i saw it
the price difference depending on where u are is massive
No need to buy
i dont plan to buy tbh
You are F2P anyways
whats ur rec
There is a chart given by offical rok check it online
For QSH best is 4db and 2 kvk but as kvk weapon and helm are hard to get 6 db is a good choice too
anyone has good caocao talent tree? for expedition
He is secondary to sun usually in early game until you get Aeth
So need to have a talent tree
Just do peacekeeping tree on him for forts
yes, i plan to push for aeth
i still lack heads to summon aeth
Yes
Top secret 😆
This is for mobility not fighting and barbs lol
I have built several tools, to be able to make maths for Rok. One is actually a simulator, Python-based, yes. Helps me to figure out average values, uptimes on debuffs, skill cycles duration …. And so on.
From those, I build free tools for the community, such as Stats Weighting, Armaments Score system … and some others
And I use them all 
It's on TKC website now so more easier to use them rather than on spreadsheets
Yes. It’s pretty
what is the best barb fort rally pairing? for fastest kill and least amount of sevs?
Mina CC
is there a good subsitute for mina? i dont have him
Run CC boudica then
Or Aeth
Boudica is better for forts ig
And it you don't have them at a good skill level use CC sun
what usually happens to most players when their clan disbands, and most clans outside of top 10 has high power reqs
and the remaining players are scattered
we are so cooked !
Yeah you answered it yourself
dang it
hey how often is negotiation turns into the alliance leader getting absorbed and the members arent
Heyy, good morning! How can I have the ROK community? Can it be put in the character account? It’s just that it doesn’t appear and I’m new to playing 🥲
respect your work tbf, you are saving the heads and gearsets of so many people ! 🫡
How long does it take if I wanna crit 1set full and awake it from 1 to 5 and how much does it cost?
And what are the things I should buy to get this fast?
easily 500k ish gems
For more rewards yes
Will take time with events you get blueprints and material and those events needs gems
It takes years to full crit if you aren't a whale
A whale will also take around 1 year for one set
And for what you should buy
There's a vanquisher bundle you get when you first time get a legendary blueprint (every piece individually
Can buy daily mats supply if spending high
Rest is just through events like egg hammer darulak puzzle box
As the question is a whale thing cuz f2p don't need iconic 5 set until you have atleast 5-6 full sets
You have to spend on every event mentioned
If you a f2p low spender don't even think about doing iconic 5 and just do egg event
Report it in #🐞〡bugs
Tyyysmmmm!
You're welcome
Do you think it's possible to complete the Lotus challenge? I have 400k power and 4 days left.
I still have a lot of boosts. What would my power level need to be today?
Yes
Come watch my kl rn
3526
Zoom out, press globe on bottom right
Trust
Lotus is not important don't go for it but if you still want it for fun your power should be around 600k today
Js zoom out and do what I tell you
Top right there's a search function
Put in 3526
Press on the magnifying glass
Now just click and watch
Congrats on legendary
alright imma watch u fight
where in there
there's 3
The one with ks26 1990
then here's a tip for you to buy a better device before your kvk
what camp are u
Me ? I'm not in this kvk
I wish it was 
the micro is crazy
is this normal? tehy dont have anywhere to go but htey click march here and there to move
That's how you fight and there are reasons for it to be that way
You have much more to learn in upcoming time

Na tas juno
Hey, what tag do I need to post in Ingame Suggest channel?
nevermind i was extrordinarily foolish
How hard is it for F2P pull for ysg in k1/k2?
please dont do it, it will ruin your account progress, invest gems into reaching vip 12 asap and use the rest for getting gear
vip 10 then egg
Okok
yo guys
If I have 75 flags in an alliance and delete like 5 so its under 71 is the cost also going down?
Hi, i'm currently running nevsky arthur as my first march, pass 4 opens in 4 days and i haven't swapped wedge 1 armaments yet, i have hunter inscription, i was indecided about what do you, rn i can bring achilles to 5551 and pair him with arthur and i could swap hunter inscription with the delta one, otherwise i can go wedge 2 on nevsky for now and invest in qsh and use the armaments on him later, or i can even wait and see what happens with comms and armaments and use nevsky arthur with wedge 1 (i also have joan prime exp and zhuge hermann both 5551), what do you think is best for me to do?
yea right?
hello, not sure if you guys were able to read what happened to my kd but tldr: an alliance family used to be 4, now 6 kinda-owns the entire 4073 now.
is it alright if i cant make it to the top 1-3 but make it within top 4-5 of their alliance family?
still in top 10 tho
can someone explain how is a barbarian fort lv. 1 better than elite lohar
Usually, if you don't have enough power to get in top 3, you are doing something wrong
seems to be the case
its a whale kd
yea
nope bruh im still working , and soc needs attention after this lol wont be logging in today mostly
Lohar is better if you are in the early days of a kingdom. Aim for expertised lohar. I'd say lvl 3 and 4 forts are where lohars value drops
alright
ill see u around then
That's fine, since you are in a whale kd, you are in a good spot I'd say
Just hoard and don't be pressured to push power unless you need to
hoard what
Speed ups and rss, you'd want them for events
alright thanks ill start hoarding them now
Im in kvk 2 right now and my only hope is to use the looper method, I've trashed my account.
Does they removed 400 minutes research quest in bastion?
You basically hoard speed ups and resources once you hit 9m power and go inactive for 30 days once you got the commander swap event. That way you can go back and redo kvk 1 after kvk 2
then once you go inactive for 30 days, you get to transfer to a kvk 1 kd?
how many times can u do it
Yup, the game gives you a special event for players that are coming back after 30 day inactivity
Only once (the targetted migration), but the event itself an be abused every 75 days
That's one of the options, so you can either use them both or use the other as a overpowered farm
But for me I'll take those 30 days off and just take a breather
i dont think the game allows you to loop every time to kvk 1
its just a 1 time thing as far as i remember be careful tbh
Yup the targetted migration is a one time use and dump, but the event itself (King's return) can be used every 75 days after it's been activated
so we can loop through kvk 1 infinite times?
no
you can't loop through kvk1 infinite times
just king's return event
except kvk 1 migration
i dont plan to
returnee wheel + homecoming thing
Yup it is 😆
id have higher chance restarting than trying to fight my way to top 3 alliance in 4073
but still
i kinda like 4073
i have it in my SOC acc rn as i have returned from a 1 year break but i get 100 free ghs from it
rest is all p2w stuff
and it varies based on vip level, mine is 18 so i got 100 for lower levels it will lower - even here it is p2w
You can try looper strat, although your kd is new so really up to you. You can restart and use that current account as a farm and migrate it to your new acc while lilith still hasn't fully removed sleepers
The rich get richer
i mean this event really irritated me,its useless bro 1 year whole meta changes 100 gh is like 5511? i think even lower
Not even enough for 5511, even qsh is useless in that state
technically they are alr gone
Oh?
and the only way to loop is team migration to kvk 4 or if the account is low in power maybe K2
man that was brutal though why did they do it, it really helped f2p and low spenders
My restart group this april is screwed then
dont do these restart groups stuff tbf, just go into a new kd and plan
elseyou will be stuck in this cycle
thats extremely unadvisable to do
they will be regardless when the kd has no organization whatsoever and has 3 civil wars
ah ok i got it
may i ask what's this
does plan includes having 4 farms
It's hard because getting into top 3 alliances 1 day into the kd alone is basically impossible without hours of dedication. And usually the 1st day of a kd is raining with gc
do farms generally gets created first before your main
i mean just sitting out works
It’s a blueprint fragment choice chest
what's a fragment
Of a green rarity
1/30th of a blueprint
erm idk
not rlly
Yea that’s lowkey nothing
my friend is sitting out a current civiol war in 4061 and it does NOT work
btw did lilith remove migration after 10 days to younger kds too?
apparently so
i asked vip yesterday and they said migration was alr removed but i mean
the migration page hasnt been updated since the removal of jumpers
i really didnt wanna spend but i guess i have to lmfao
sooooo lmao
Buy it if you can cuz those are important for f2p they don't get much to 6 star a legendary
vip support is a sham
So basically in kvk 1 you can't make a farm now no? Unless you plan to make 2+ different email accounts
indeed they are
alright thanks
i guess not
its not fully clear tbh if only they bothered updating the migeation page this would be so easy to understand
i asked them to trigger comm swap cuz i logged in to check my acc in my break and it got triggered they refuse to do it, just thinking about it makes me angry, so my spending and they refuse to 1 small help
how tf was i supposed to play when i had health issues lmfao , they are a joke
thats odd tbh
sleepers gone
migration pre kvk seemingly gone
Yea that was really the only solution to restart projects
kds with civil ars are practically fked
hey what's your fr thoughts on 4073, seeing how it's a whale kd? i dont feel like ill be able to ride their coattails - is it better to do 4075? (i actually like my kd on 4073, fr)
but again we can only guess here because lilith is allergic to communication
Glad loopers are still going though, or maybe not. They didn't really specify.
But it’s still not gonn change anything lol
they would be destroyed by the time they go into kvk
Restart servers are still gonna dominate
im just worried im not gonna enjoy it in long term
no loopers r gone
Cuz they’re actually organized 
hopefully
but if they have idealogical issues and cracks start its another story lmfao
Loopers are inconsistent asf
?? Uhhhh please give full context
Yea sleepers and jumpers etc won’t fix shit organization like that
So technically i can migrate from kvk 2 commander swap to kvk 1 still no? Cuz that's my whole game plan to save my small account from being trashed
well, u can theorically afk your account and then trigger targeted migration pre soc, which would allow u to mig to a KD pre kvk 1, but the kingdoms appearing as available are random as far as we know
i left a 300 k power acc sometime ago, it was looping back to a kvk 2 kd not kvk 1, i think they removed looping altogether
no u cant do that
i dont think u can no
the last time i logged into it was on kd age 10 days or something
ur account has to be very small but i dont think its doable
Even with kings return?
returnee event?
Yes uts currently held back from going over 10m
Yes
then that i dont know fuklly tbh
returnee event - my 300k power acc got targeted migration to kvk 2 bro
its not consistent
Lowkey not gonna return to rok if sleepers are fucked
Why don't we have full infos about these changes, its frustrating
ye thats fs
Not even a hot take
Totally reasonable
only thing i know that works for looping is this and even then its still capped to soc or kvk 2, not kvk 1
i know targeted migration allows u to go to kvk 1, or used to, i dont know if they've made any changes to that
ill just
Yall is baibars sun still the goat
I opened my dead farm acc once to a kings return, all choices are from kd age 120 - 175.
still good yeah
so thats past kvk 1 already then
lemme see if my farms got it hold up they all afk anyway
Baibars and sun? As a pair?
Problem?
I mean thats good aoe damage but i ave this disease called min maxing
you only lose out on 10% inf health, but u gain rage gen for baibars, sun only has 1 exclusive inf skill
And yeah baibars + cav atack and march speed passive is kinda wasted 😭
Bai Sun is literally min maxing
How lol
It’s a cav march mate
Wyoab
early game - you get spammed with woh as soon as login on 1 cuz you get a cc real fast , then its all pack spam fest
Then the inf boost from sun is kinda out of the question
thats the only change
Oh no 10% hp loss
End of the world innit
and they shamelessly advertising barca now, barca gives free units
mina construction speed reduced and cc ap daily
Based
Ap mid, free units mid, Mina decent
Like i said, i min max commander till the very last passive
Spenders gonna 5511 or max mina anyways
So what you do
Is run worse commanders
To min max passive skills?
😭
Lmfao free units of barca are useless anyways if you got enough money to get to that vip level in less than a month
I pair inf to inf to max every possible inf boost...? Like what's the point of this question
Sun and pyrrhus for example
ill try to hold on to the kvk 1 acc this time and see it to kvk 1 atleast
Cm and pyrrhus even better
Yeah and milk every passive skill available
Pairing inf and inf ain’t min maxing that’s just called an inf march 😭
i used to run this in my whale era , practically unbeatable in kvk 1
???
Youre literally just using an inf march
mina-ysg was squishy tbf
You ain’t doing sum tuff min maxing 😭
My gosh please don't talk to me if you don't get my point, thank you ❤️
why do yall hate aeth, really goo utility comm in kvk 1 with that debuff
Crazy damage thou
sun-aeth
It’s not min maxing if you js run some meta inf march someone else told you tho 
who hating on aeth 😭
Nobody 💔
Yeah that extra attack boost from Pyrrhus with shield is delicious
any suggestion for caocao talent? currently im focusing on mobility
Take the march speed from peacekeeping, the whole line. Then the march speed on cav talent tree. Lastly take the march speed on the mobility tree
Idk if that's the best way to do it, but thats how i built my cc back in kvk 1
And don't go for the more % march speed when less than half troops remaining till you get all the march speed talents
Могу ли я заняться рекрутингом к себе на дискорд сервер для прыжка и в каком чате? Всё долго читать просто
Обьясните мне пожалуйста последовательность моих действий для этого
if you back out from a march
or a rally on fort
does your action points
go back
yes
ty
take all possible march speed, do the same with belisarius and craft wind swept set, you get a top of kp in kvk 1
Does Team migration takes up spots for general migration in kvk4?
ty guys, i get it now
Should I get takada in kvk2?
Generally not
You suggesting her farm killing 
how to know if your kingdom is a pioneer kd?
You can't unless they announce it or you see that new rules are applied to it
hmmm alright
Can I recruit people to my Discord server for a 'jump' (Rise of Kingdoms group migration to a new server), and in which chat should I do it? Everything takes too long to read — just keep it simple.
its fun bruh
“Jumping” no longer exists
Looks like he's asking about the team migration for returnees
“New server” is what’s throwing me off here 
Ohh yeah true i didn't see it lol 
Is sleepers gone for good now for the new kingdoms coming up?
Yes that is also gone
Just a more general question
In prep season, if you’re the first KD ina bracket, most likely getting Rising Star, are your migration windows open (10m), for the duration it takes for the last KD to hit Prep season?
Is that benefiting low spenders?
Thanks everyone, I understand now. There is no recruiting on this server, right? I just saw one channel with that name and thought...
Migration may not be possible at all depending upon the most recent changes
No we saying what you asking "jumper" don't exist anymore
Recruitment for?
disregarding the fact that migration is possible
So now when sleepers isn’t a thing. Does this benefit low spenders?
We are trying to figure out what you’re recruiting for because you are using old language that refers to something that no longer exists
-#
Suggested command: </recruit:1374685173886619669>
The devs seem to believe it does
But what would you say
Because apparently it is of great benefit to low spenders to be stuck somewhere with no possibility of leaving if there’s a problem
That’s true
It’s impossible to say because the actual change was not communicated properly
You think this sleeper problem will be changed even more in the future
Like for example bringing it back
If something is no longer possible how can it be changed?
Nope
wat is he even good for
Ah I miss jumping method
Whales being whales
oh
Maybe there will be migration allowed within region it's not written in patch notes but someone did ask it in VIP support
i thought hed be good cause he increases normal damage done to the enemy
its single target tho
For starting the game on a new server with preparation
VIP support has had their heads up their asses for years
That's also true
You just pick a kingdom and start there
That's why I'm saying maybe
Don't even know that if the update is implemented or not
Zman, how much would you say I need to spend to keep up in top 1 alliance in a random kingdom now when sleeping is gone
They just love word salad 
Or just in general how much is usually needed to be spent
0-1000 🤷♂️
Yes, I just want to gather people for a joint fresh start on a new server
Why?
That's just lilith using their in-game translators to translate this in English 
Join an existing group in #1250017171145359381
Is it actually possible f2p
In a lower end kingdom yeah
Ignore everything else in your life and sure
Hardcore f2p yeah
4 farms farming gems doing marauders for gems etc. stuff all day
If I spend to max king cournation or whatever it is
There are better things before that
I want to start the game over for myself and create a great alliance on a new server. For that I need players, so I'm trying to recruit them from various sources
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Suggested command: </recruit:1374685173886619669>
Growth found
Most alliances track activity anyway so just spending a lot won’t automatically get you a spot
Have you been king before?
Just be quick with creating a alliance when a kingdom open and you have a good chance to take top 1-10
Incorrect
Being r5 is overrated
Thanks. Can I leave a link to my Discord server there?
Growth fund, gem supply, gh popups, leg mats popups, recharge events, 7-day mat supply, dailies and after all these i would say you can do king coronation
Still hasn’t kicked in
I’d do first hand research before giving answers
Ok
No offense but you are clueless and that will only lead to heartbreak
You are not ready to be R5
Let alone king
You need extreme game knowledge and experience to be a king
In regards to prep/KvK 1 season migration
if the first KD is likely to get rising star, will all 4 KDs in that bracket need to hit prep before a rising star is placed, and if so, does that give the first KD a window to recruit 10m plus?
Yes, but I just spent 4 days creating a good Discord server for this. I even paid for an ultra AI subscription and an ultra translation subscription 😁 I want to plan everything properly. I don’t have the goal of stealing people from anywhere. I just want people in my Discord so we can do joint events and tasks together, and have the opportunity to prepare together for a fresh start on a new server during the jump
Yeah all 4 kingdoms needs to hit prep first to give star to one among them and if a kingdom does get rising star it can't recruit anyone over 10M power
yeah right but you’re misreading the question, apologies if that sounds rude
We KNOW we’ll hit RS, just double checking to see if we have a window until the 4th kd hits prep season to recruit 10 mils
i feel like im not so in a bad situation
4073 has been fully conquered by a whale family 8+ alliances, which most is on top 10
8 family of whale alliance is in top 15
Oh ok yeah you can recruit anyone over 10M below 25M before the 4th kingdom hits prep
I have question
is it okay to be in their academy
Cheers og
I was going to tell you to stop lol 

If you have low power and low game knowledge yeah
what happens to my builder contract if i hit lvl 6 vip
Nono
i am tho
You can grow there and get place in the top alliances with time
Atleast they let your enter zone 2 

Otherwise stay outside
what should i do if i got lohar the commander before uh event end
Just be friendly with king and seduce him then he will let you stay in top alliance
do i still use necklace for heads

Hm hm 
wtf i just read lohars skill
Lohar is not for fighting btw
it's like a fucking caveman with beef on barbarian, i should replace cc with him during first week of kd
not for vengeance and expe?
Yes, I have over 7 years of experience in the game. I can fight and develop in ways that allow me to teach players from any server and at any stage of KvK. Of course, I haven’t watched many guides during this time, so I won’t argue about that. I’ve made a lot of mistakes, just like everyone else.
But wherever I’ve been, I’ve managed to surprise a lot of people. Also, I’m a kit (whale) in addition to being an R5. I’ve played from different positions: F2P, low spender, and whale. I enjoyed studying the game from all sides.
I consider myself a good pilot of my account, and like many players, I always find something new to learn. I’m not perfect, but I have a lot of unique tricks and playstyles that are purely my own. And honestly, there are quite a lot of them
You expertise him already ?
u summon him alr

i mean i didnt use necklace
And do you think that's enough
i just join rally and accidentally got 4 2 2 etc
You still need those to exp him
Just dont spend heads on him
yeah, but he's only good for barb right
Summoning him is like a drop of water in a lake
Yeah but you still need to exp him cuz it's free
Yup most likely
No shi sherlock
also why do people use multiple march for single barb
isn't that paying 2x potion for 1x reward
i cant get the logic
Yea but
but
Ok so what are the current migration rules pre-KVK1? What is “Path of Vengeance”? And how do you plan on actually achieving control of a kingdom?
You get 2x reward too
It's playing 2x potion for 2x rewards
really

You get the same no. of rewards too
Yea
tf
Bro was fooled all this time
It will help you empty your ap fast but chaining is more better if you have time
yeah sounds like it
Ofc in early game you don't have anyone except sun but it's hard to chain and you don't know to chain so maybe it's better for you
He has aeth
i learned to chain highkey on god day 2 but dang

my issue is expedition comms vs power spread
power spread = expedition comms commander low lvl
expedition comms commander high lvl = power spread low
I can finish expendition with 1 march
He had on his first account this one is his 3rd restart out of 5 characters
he is a perennial looper , this was what i meant lmfao
learning curve godly
What the dlip
i wanna stay here tho i feel great
that perfect start with a perfect kd and perfect alliance 💀
except power spread and expedition is buns
We took years and months of playing this game to get this much knowledge do you think you can gain it in 7 days with 7 restarts 
As for controlling the kingdom:
My plan is simple and realistic — build a strong, organized alliance from day 1 with active players who are ready to work together. Quick alliance creation right when the kingdom opens, coordinated farming, rally training, and taking key spots early. With my 7+ years of experience, different positions, and , I know how to develop fast and fight effectively at any KvK stage. We'll prepare together in Discord: joint events, tasks, and timing everything for a strong start. Not promising miracles, but with good coordination we have a real shot at top positions.
If you have more specific questions about rules or how we plan to run things — ask, I'm happy to explain."
but mistake is long term
ehat lvl are you
rome is not built on a day
in vengeance
where can i see lvl
What is “Path of Vengeance”?
thats good, you will get a lot of xp
iv have higher power than opponent tho
Oi Zman
1.2m vs 1.074m
i just havent clicked
docks
In early game only one mistake is long term that is spending gh on wrong commanders otherwise everything else is forgiveable and fixable
Let's keep this questions / Answers focused please
gh is
Migration rules pre-KVK1 (before the first KvK starts):
You can migrate to a new kingdom only when it's in the off-season (not during any KvK). The target kingdom must be developed (usually 120+ days old or marked as "Developed" in the passport page). You can't migrate into an active KvK. There are also power limits and sometimes slot limits (same-season vs cross-season immigration). Before KVK1 specifically, migration is often restricted to kingdoms in the same region/continent in some cases.
Exactly
-#
Suggested command: </servercap:1374685213871050784>
general head / the heads?
alr nubs are fighting over sanctums , what would you do?
And be patient
This is not “pre-KVK1” KVK1 generally starts around 70-90 days in
Are we taking test here 😭
i have to ask, when do you power spread, and how u manage to up hero in expedition while powe spreading?
oh ok yea that's what i mean
Golden heads
oh i thought gold commanders are generals
spam all xp into suntzu
