❓〡questions

[fringe sable]

Is there a cap on how much rage you can gain per turn ?

[hybrid bobcat]

Hi ! Just got back from the game after quite some time, is "Targeted Immigration" (from the "Welcome back" event) considered Illegal immigration for kd's?

[mental walrus]

220

[radiant perch]

if my troop gets killed when gathering do i still get rss

[worn mango]

But if they didnt then my damage would just build up no?

[fringe sable]

So by that logic shouldn't we customize Sun talent tree cuz if there's a cap putting so much points into skill tree will be a waste most of the times

[native sable]

220 except QSH that has a higher one (maybe uncapped, i was unable to reach the barrier i theorized)

[native sable]

Feral nature and rejuvenate are just to strong to give up because of overage on a single turn

[mental walrus]

No u want as much as possible regardless

[native sable]

Arguably ZL primary can give up on feral cause rejuvenate works only a 4th of the time under perfect circunstances (max target hit)

[fringe sable]

For rejuvenate it's gives rage on using a skill but as sun itself gives 50 rage/per target it will always be a waste in a ball fight

[mental walrus]

No it won’t because youre always prone to rage loss and you aren’t hitting 220 that often

And what you just said only applies to after you use the skill, not other turns when ur not using the skill

[native sable]

Yes but not for the secondary

[mental walrus]

Actually rage debuff applies after u reach whatever rage u got

Point being u want as much rage as possible which is why everyone needs to have a horn minus qin

It will speed up your active on average

[native sable]

50rage per target for Sun ? Man i need to relearn my epics

[fringe sable]

Like i got 500 but I will cap to 220 and then the rage debuffs will apply ?

[mental walrus]

Yes

[native sable]

Yes

[lethal jacinth]

is hammer egg this week

[mental walrus]

Yes

[lethal jacinth]

noice

[native sable]

Hammer egg ?

[mental walrus]

Or

[fringe sable]

For QSH i have never seen much players going for feral nature why's that

[mental walrus]

Hes a unique commander in that he doesn’t require rage. Instead he consumes rage

For his active to activate

[native sable]

I have the only video (to my knowledge) that actually break down how QSH works. He doesnt even need rejuvenate if paired with ZL (assuming you are not trying to tank lol)

[mental walrus]

So hes different, therefore he doesn’t need the regular archer build or the horn

[mental walrus]

Nah I think u need rejuvenate

[native sable]

If you are not spending too much from 4th skill, you dont

[fringe sable]

So it was done considering only getting the required for the skill per turn amd not getting any extra than that

[native sable]

Summary of QSH talents based on pairing:

• no engine = horn + rejuvenate (dont do that)
• YSG = no horn, rejuvenate
• ZL = no horn, no feral (arguably no rejuvenate)

Actually in every case feral is not needed

Dont know why i wrote it this way

[bronze spire]

Alright bet

[mental walrus]

@limber scroll confirm

[hybrid bobcat]

nope

[mighty viper]

No because you’re migration opportunities will be based on your starting KD not your current LD

[honest perch]

What was that good code that gave keys

[zealous lava]

Ramadan

[honest perch]

Only Ramadan?

[radiant perch]

how long is offseason between kvk 1 and 2 because some people say 10 days and some people say like 1 month

[mighty viper]

It is within that range of days

[radiant perch]

damn thats so inconvinient

thanks anyway dude

[mighty viper]

you’re welcome

[rose narwhal]

Zenith and 7K coming mid march we said?

[lethal jacinth]

12 mats yay or nay

[lunar musk]

yay

[dark frigate]

Welcome

What is this ?

[rugged turtle]

Is there a place where I can see all active codes in one spot?

[icy reef]

when is new wedge coming? I'm at 8/10 pity for wedge rn, should i just not touch it til it comes out?

[mighty viper]

#💻〡redeem․codes is the closest you’ll get

[radiant peak]

What are the advantages of being a content creator?

[crisp arrow]

#📖〡media․chat message can check this post

[rancid rivet]

Once I reach VIP 12 what should I spend my gems on?

[slender hill]

what buff does ishtars gate give? in the ceroli crisis

[cunning oar]

its a cosmetic

so nothing

[slender hill]

what about the last reward in China's story book from the lyceum of wisdom

they all look relally similar to city skins

[mighty viper]

If I recall correctly it’s a cosmetic structure

[crimson mural]

What is the highest level of fort that gives books of covenant and how much can I get max for tier 10 rewards?

[cunning oar]

i dont have the China one, but pretty sure is the same thing

[cunning oar]

when is a skin, it says the buffs

[limber scroll]

2/3 needed

[real gulch]

In kvk 1, as a f2p what do you suggest as a 2nd march ? I wanna play sun zu YSG in first march or Sun zu aeth if I cant get enough gh for YSG

[native sable]

Vanquisher is 4 for 5$ so its a yay!

[mild gust]

How can I check the high caves without exploring

[mighty viper]

?

[mild gust]

Like show a map of 4045

I want to see where the high caves are

[mighty viper]

There’s spreadsheets that show locations based on map type

[mild gust]

U know where the spread sheets are

[native sable]

Hold off your investment until you know for sure if you can expertise YSG or not

[native sable]

Shoulda been saving for a while (well you bought your account off wontrade so you might not be responsible). As it will save you at least 2 stones off swapping an uniscribed scroll and flags (or regular top tier inscription for 4stones)

[rancid rivet]

Should I craft the gauntlet once I have enough material in like 2-3 days or wait to get enough blueprints for the pants?

I should be able to get the blueprints for the panths in like 20 days

[white tapir]

highly recommended not to run 2nd march as f2p in kvk1 unless you seriously know what you're doing

it takes a lot of rss and speeds

and hard to get good enough gear for 2

[rancid rivet]

These are my current équipements btw

[native sable]

When is the next fight ? How are you planning on getting leg BP ?

[rancid rivet]

Im not sure when the next fight is my kingdom kinda gave up already maybe in 20 days when the level 4 passes open for other kingdoms we will defend

For the leg BP I have like 23 chests where I can select this blueprint I just need to save more lost canyon coin to get the last 5 chests

[native sable]

Ok good source.
Craft the glove, better stat swing

And also cheaper

[rancid rivet]

Got it thanks!

[stable flame]

kvk 2 is around the corner I think I'd have about a full epic set worth of mats I was originally planning to js run mina with a exp ysg but I realised KP gain might be slow especially since I'm juggling life and rok so I am debating on running baibars and aeth and putting a newly made epic set w them

[white tapir]

baibars-aeth is kinda playable in kvk2 but very squishy so you gotta be able to fight well and use it only for ball fights

[native sable]

Baibard YSG could be a mad man play

Max damage giga chad style

[white tapir]

over mina-ysg?!

[native sable]

Well baibard is truckload more damage so why not

Not factoring unreliable mina debuff

[white tapir]

Nickname's commander guide puts them at wildly differing levels

[native sable]

Well that guide also feature saladin. Also is it only cavs ? Cause i dont see SunAethel of SunYSG

Ok nvm, cavs only

[white tapir]

yeah that's the cav section of the guide

but thinking about the actual commander's skills, I'm not sure why mina-ysg is so much higehr

[native sable]

Ngl, the descriptipn of saladin stating "good damage output, not durable" is quite the complete opposite compared to mina ...

[white tapir]

it feel like baibars should be at least relative, i see your case for it being higher

[native sable]

I think this guide is just old and everyone (myself included) had less understanding of the game

I mean no one is gonna recommand saladin to you kowadays

[blazing linden]

[white tapir]

it does have a investment section where it doesn't recommend saladin for investment

this part is just purely based on how well it will perform

[small pebble]

is karuak a barb?

[mental walrus]

That’s what I thought

[vast eagle]

Do we know what time the new kingdom is released?

[mental walrus]

No

[bleak oxide]

Welcome

[small pebble]

Is qsh kvk 3 or soc?

[high linden]

Kvk3

Soc commanders = kvk3 commanders

[small pebble]

Thanks thats what i tought aswell wanted to be sure

[rugged turtle]

Is there a way to switch cc for ysg? I thought the wheel was the only way to get YSG so I’m confused

[wintry lintel]

Can someone lmk what top 2 commanders of each troop type is rn?

[icy reef]

In a couple months for you

[mental walrus]

check the pins

[wintry lintel]

Ah ty ty

didnt see that

[mental walrus]

👍

[slim ore]

Guys can someone give me template of their alliance description

[rugged turtle]

Wasn’t he a kvk1 commander? Is kvk 1 that far away or is he released after

[icy reef]

day 90 or something

[mental walrus]

he's not pre kvk1, he's kvk1 commander

[mental walrus]

around this time should be accurate

[rose narwhal]

He seems to appear in pre kvk now

Some people have had him pop up on pre kvk

[mental walrus]

yeah around that time

it's been around that time p sure

[rugged turtle]

Okay thank you, so it’s a waste of gems if I were to spend gems on this wheel right?

[mental walrus]

yes

[rugged turtle]

I’m saving for more than gems and I’ll dump 7k each day into VIP then I’ll spend rest on ysg

Is that a good plan or should I do otherwise

[icy reef]

Whale

7k gems a day goddamn

[mental walrus]

depending on your spend it's better to maax out mtg and just 10 spin all the ysg wheels

[mental walrus]

ok that's skill issue if you can't do that icl

[mental walrus]

@rugged turtle

[rugged turtle]

Okay I should be good to do that, I have 28k rn and 10days left on my daily 650 thing

And I spend all my ap on barbs so I get a couple hundred on top of that per day

[mental walrus]

why are you spending ap on barbs

save that for marauders

[rugged turtle]

I get 1500 per day? Shouldn’t I be using that?

Then the daily 500

So 2k free per day

[mental walrus]

oh i thought you meant the bottles

[rugged turtle]

Oh I spent a few ngl but I’ll save now, i don’t know a whole lot so I kinda just do whatever

[mental walrus]

check the pins for a starter guide

[white tapir]

That's a great starter guide, I hadn't read that but I wish I knew some of those things when starting

[icy reef]

Ok ngl i misread that as in dumping 7k gems into vip everyday not just mtg

Right or left? Kvk in a few days idk if i want to lock dmg at 1.5

[mental walrus]

i guess right then lock or not lock the all damage

generally all damage for armaments are valued 2x to health

depends on many factors of course, but that should be a good metric to determine what's better

[icy reef]

okay thx

[white tapir]

@mental walrus Matt and I were talking earlier, wondering why early game Mina is valued higher than Baibars? For ball fights the damage for Baibars is higher, and they give the same attack boost, is Mina's lower damage worth the 10% march speed and occasional debuff from fourth skill?

[mental walrus]

mina's fourth skill is really good for people with multiple marches

yes you can definitely argue baibars > mina i'm not opposed to that

[white tapir]

That makes sense, thank you!

[mental walrus]

the targeting subject is also something to look for as mina will definitely get targeted less. although this shouldn't matter that much if you know how to field fight, definitely still a point to make

[white tapir]

That is a good point, people assume mina players have better gear and target less than Baibars which are usually f2p

[mental walrus]

if you're using baibars, most will assume you're just a t4 player, with mina you can't really tell

[mental walrus]

exactly

[white tapir]

Do you think Baibars-YSG should get a bump in the spreadsheet then? I refer people to your spreadsheet often cause it's so helpful

[normal hinge]

The Gear that is on Sun tzu will go on an expertised Gorgor. The BQ Gear will go on a 5551 Gorgo. Let’s say all circumstances are the same. Expertised BQ or LC on secondary. Flag/Pass is always being filled. Who would perform better ?

Suggestions on improving the 5551 Gorgo would be appreciated.

[rose narwhal]

Both would do bad because of iconic level and accesories

[normal hinge]

Kvk 3 so not against the strongest gear set ups lol. But yes you’re right. This all we got haha

[rose narwhal]

Fah man, i mean I truly don't think there'll be big difference 😭

What does Delaney's do again?

[normal hinge]

It’s trash. It’s takes less counterattack

[rose narwhal]

I guess the left side has slightly more stats but truly both would probably perform the same

[normal hinge]

BQ gear can turn into this if it’s more helpful

[rose narwhal]

I guess that may perform better then yeah, can u share the stat overview of both with BQ w that gear?

Truly nothing will big insane changes though

Will make ^

Hmmm but 551 Gorgo

[normal hinge]

I understand but at this point any little bit matters. The second double leadership is high stats. Because the first BQ is prioritizing the set for march speed

Sadly it’s going on a 5551 Gorgo rather than the sun tzu gear on a expertised

[mental walrus]

get a bump in what sense? above mina/baibars? right now i have it as on par

again, you can make that argument but refer to what i said earlier

[mental walrus]

if it's mono, get the two LS set. if it's single, get the four piece inf set

probably what i'd recommend

it is really scuffed though for sure

i think bq probably does better as garrison than lc since like half of lc's kit is only when he's on field

[rose narwhal]

They're putting those on Gorgo tho

[mental walrus]

just make sure all the best pieces go onto the garrison

[mental walrus]

wdym

[rose narwhal]

They're putting those gear into Gorgo

Expertise for ST 5551 for BQ

They're swapping the gear onto Gorgo

2 different garri leads I assume

[mental walrus]

i'm confused, they're talking about garrison right?

ohhh

asking which is better

i see

[rose narwhal]

Yes, they're asking if the STP gear with an expertise Gorgo does better than the BQ gear with a 5551 gorgo

[mental walrus]

hm

i mean if we're trying to kill down the rally i'd say that gorgo/sun is better but holy scuff

[normal hinge]

Yes! lol

[mental walrus]

i dont' remember what stuff sun has that is field exclusive

[rose narwhal]

Dunno what the secondary even is lol might be a Martel or whatever

@normal hinge what's the secondary for each?

[white tapir]

If there is a case to Baibars being close to mina, I thought that Mina-ysg and Baibars-ysg would be closer than S+ and A.

[rose narwhal]

It's for a pass

Just the context I mean

[normal hinge]

It can be BQ/LC/Sun whoever performs better

[rose narwhal]

No Hera or Tokugawa or even Martel?

[mental walrus]

well on paper they're pretty close, but like i said about the targeting and stuff like that

well on a pass i'd probably prefer sun or bq

in a flag i'd probably do martel

[normal hinge]

There’s expertise Martel yes. If it’s better than the other options. This is for a kvk 3. These 2 sets of gear are our best garrisons leads sadly

[rose narwhal]

Yeah fair enough

[mental walrus]

idk though lol that's just really bad

but yeah it is kvk3

and not much flagging/holding down a pass in that kvk iirc

[rose narwhal]

I mean it's not gonna get exactly swarmed so hm

[mental walrus]

yeah pass won't be swarmed

[rose narwhal]

If anything it'll get triple rallied

[mental walrus]

so i'd rather not use cm since he's excluevely just for a counter

[indigo raven]

[mental walrus]

sun would probably still do better

[rose narwhal]

I guess at that point try BQ and STP see who does better, I guess STP single target damage will be interesting to see

[mental walrus]

wait sun's kit is ass for garrison

half the stuff don't work for him either

he gets no stats

definitely go bq instead of sun even though sun is single target i think

[rose narwhal]

He's single target and then aoe but I do not think his aoe works as secondary

Or maybe he does, truly I don't know lemme look at it rq

[mental walrus]

i think it does, people just use him primary for 900 rage requirement

[rose narwhal]

That would make sense

Nah u right BQ would do better didn't see Sun's was so restricted

[normal hinge]

So the BQ gear with 5551 Gorgo/BQ

[rose narwhal]

Apparently so yeah

[dusty tangle]

Should I open my gold keys

[valid blade]

Am I an exception?

[white tapir]

Yep, go ahead. Looks like you're in very early game so getting more gold key commanders will help boost your power to get in the top alliance

Question for people, when considering saving speedups for things I haven't seen people give estimates for the average speedup income per week? What would the average speedups per week gained for f2p approx be in kvk and offseason? I can calculate the additional stuff from spending easy enough but the f2p numbers seems hard to know without experience

[rose narwhal]

Because there's not an average, it strongly depends on your alliance chests, how much you chain, whether u do baulurs or not, people's spending in your KD, there is truly no way to average it out in small period of time for a week I wouldn't say

You can say yeah I get X amount of speedups per off season and off season counts from this day to this day but weekly is far too small of a timegap to give an average with so many factors and rng on the way

[mental walrus]

yeah me neither until i saw his kit lol

[mental walrus]

if you don't want the achivement for opening 200 at once sure

it doesn't really matter

[mental walrus]

well i would rather to expertise gorgo with bq

having gorgo at expertise is definitely better than minimal gear improvements

that's if the person with gorgo exp has bq

[normal hinge]

Even if let’s say the pass or flag is always filled ? Expertise gorgo only works under 50% right ?

[mental walrus]

below 50% doesn't really matter, in a longish pass fight that gorgo will stay under 50% for a long time

that 50% is based on the bar of the garrison, not based on the troops that are currently in the garrison

[rose narwhal]

That's interesting

[normal hinge]

Ahh I see. I thought it was total garrison health and not just the garrison captain health

[mental walrus]

something like that, just know you'll be under 50% almost all the time

[late ledge]

Can i know what will make others have more units than me

?

47k units in 4 days isn’t good

And everybody have more than me

Idk how

While i have more power

[white tapir]

Don't worry about how many troops you have for now, as long as you can send them to gather resources then you're fine, and focussing on levelling up city hall, alliance center and academy will help you the most

[late ledge]

I want to do more expeditions

To get aeth

That’s required alot of units

[white tapir]

The expeditions are useful to do, training lower tier units to give you more units for expedition is very helpful there

But there isn't a hurry to get aeth, you'll get her expertised around the same time anyway

[rose narwhal]

City hall level is the biggest factor as long as they don't use an expansion

[late ledge]

Mine is higher

[late ledge]

Low tiers

Ih

Idk about that

Maybe only the sieges

As a F2P how hard to get lotus

From 1 to 10

[broken junco]

I can't post or repost, what's the solution?

[rose narwhal]

Sorry?

[tacit mist]

Any idea when the new spring events are coming?

[tacit mist]

I'd say a 7, you need to be efficient with everything and look up guides and time everything not just rush into it

I got 1m as casual f2p, didn't properly follow guides but commander power gives a huge boost because of the new vengeance mode

I could have gotten 1.5m if I spent more hours

[white tapir]

Siege definitely only train t1, others it's a good idea to train some low tier or at least not upgrade the low tier stuff

[white tapir]

Not recommended to get lotus as f2p, it isn't useful for your account long term and you'll have to use gems to get it which are better used elsewhere

[rose narwhal]

You'll get better and more beautiful skins off of holiday events

[late ledge]

Same 1m

[mighty viper]

7 lol

[late ledge]

650k in day 4 atm

[late ledge]

Now i got 2 7/10

[late ledge]

Okay thanks

[late ledge]

Already

[tacit mist]

can you tell lilith to hurry up and release them already

[tacit mist]

which ones are those

[rose narwhal]

Both are 7K event ones I'm pretty sure

[tacit mist]

when will they come

though i have a good enough skin already, i like those events

[rose narwhal]

We get one soon

It doesn't necessarily have to be those skins of course but

Just an example that lotus ain't allat much

[tacit mist]

the maintenance was on friday i think, thought it would be up today

[tacit mist]

yeahh true

[rose narwhal]

Nah it takes a week or 2 from the update till they go live usually

[tacit mist]

ahh alright, thanks

[rose narwhal]

[heavy bolt]

is counterattack the normal dmg the opponent does?

[dusty tangle]

Idk if I should save up until 200 for the achievement I heard it gives good stuff

[odd nacelle]

Hey I haven’t played the game for like 4 years what changed I want to start again f2p

[rose narwhal]

There's no jumpers anymore, no more cross migration, there's a new event in starting kingdoms called path of vengeance, and for the first 8 days only CC appears in gold keys

[odd nacelle]

Well I didn’t have time for jumping so that’s good news

[odd nacelle]

Ty

[rose narwhal]

People now do sleepers, they used to before but it's more prominent now anyways, anything else you can probably find in the starter guide in pins here

[fringe sable]

Huh what's the difference between them is first using beginner immigration (10days) and then using immigration (10days) called jumper ?

[rose narwhal]

The jumpers used an item that expired on day 10 as you said, u couldn't go past CH 7 with this method, and they used it right when the kingdom dropped, so they "jumped" with those accounts to a server made 3 seconds ago, whereas sleepers start a few kingdoms before the target one, so their accounts are 18-20 days and they migrate to the target kingdom, these need CH 16 and a passport at the very least

That's probably what you said but I got genuinely confused with what u meant regarding the days so there u go

[dusty tangle]

Why doesn’t really matter I heard it gives good stuff

[smoky lance]

I have question how to find sleeper or jumpers group

[rose narwhal]

Look in #1250017171145359381

[rose narwhal]

It only gives you an achievement but that barely does anything, as Leon said youre better off spending them if you're early game to gain more power

[rose narwhal]

Also jumpers are gone, sleepers and native remaining

[dusty tangle]

What does it do

[fluid flicker]

What would now be better? Ivar Liu Che or Scipio Liu che?

For zeroing opponents’ farm cities during kvk

[stable flame]

Scipio prime or the other

[native sable]

Counter attack os the damage you deal back whenever you receive a basic attack. Its 200 normal damage factor thus scales of normal damage and counterattack boosts

[lunar musk]

Zeroing farm cities is gay

But ivar lc

[undone steeple]

Is it possible to end kvk 2 so I can go 120 days back and redo kvk 2, but still have the commander swap after my second kvk 2?

[mighty viper]

If you don’t start the event before you migrate, the event can only occur once per account

[undone steeple]

Okay, when does it usually start?

[mighty viper]

In the early days of the KVK3 offseason

[undone steeple]

Okay thanks

[little lintel]

how many times can a kd skip registrationsd

[mighty viper]

Under the new rules, once

[little lintel]

how long is each registration phase or which phases are there?

[mighty viper]

Wdm?

[little lintel]

like how much time is it

[mighty viper]

Define “it”

[lunar musk]

exactly 1 day before the kvk2 time is up

[little lintel]

if i skip current registration thats going on, how much time is there until we enter the kvk map and when do i need to register at what date

[lunar musk]

4 weeks between pops

[little lintel]

i cant find anything regarding it in the rules

[mighty viper]

No, it’s during the KVK3 offseason

[lunar musk]

wrong

its exactly 1 day before kvk2 ends and rewards are given out

aka 3 days before you leave kvk2 map and enter kvk3 offseason

[mighty viper]

So for a day the commanders you gain are useless?

[lunar musk]

3

not 1

[mighty viper]

[lunar musk]

but yeah precisely

[mighty viper]

@mental walrus care to comment?

[lunar musk]

theres nothing to comment ive done a swap before

in fact if you wanna get even more precise

it starts around 20 to 30 minutes after the reset entering the last day of kvk2

which is enough time to make people panic and think smthns wrong

[mighty viper]

I have too, but our timeline was so screwed up that it really didn’t mean anything

[lunar musk]

fair

well i did a swap and then cross seasoned to kvk2

had people yell at me for saying that swap starts when it did when it came 20 mins later than reset lol

like twice in a row

so weird how it works just add a marker to the kvk2 info place that swap starts at X date

[mighty viper]

And then Lilith shadow drops another change a week after you do that

[fluid flicker]

Predator needs to eat

[lunar musk]

you aint a predator ur an anteater

at least swarm real t5 cities like a man

[lunar musk]

lmao

wait

they did shadow drop a swap date change did they not?

i remember friends in 3777 saying swap came late

or was it 3815

idk

then you are right

[mighty viper]

All non-SOC changes are basically shadow drops nowadays

[lunar musk]

whyd you shadow drop a swap date change

thats so stupid

sorry i totally forgot they did that

[mighty viper]

Because it’s not SOC and if it’s not SOC then it’s assumed the player base doesn’t care

[lunar musk]

its not that hard to hire one english speaking person to just come out and say "fyi we changed this and that"

one whale already funds like 3 peoples salaries

[mighty viper]

Legend has it that the Path of vengeance patch notes will never be found

[lunar musk]

god thats still so funny to me

every new player asking for pov advice

and nobody knowing the answers

[mighty viper]

Yeah it was one of a half dozen or so shadow dropped events

They’ve even made changes over time. There’s now 500+ levels but the original version had 200 levels

[lunar musk]

i havent even seen a single level

only thing i know is it unlocks expedition

and theres sub levels to commander skills

genuinely would fry me if i restarted now

they need to focus on the time between zone 3 and kvk4 more than the first 2 weeks though

its not about pulling players its about keeping them through a year of early game

[mighty viper]

Yes and no, you now only need to get to ch 11 I believe it is and then you can access the expedition through the quests tab

[lunar musk]

nice one lilith

ch11 is hour 2 work

[mighty viper]

I’ve been saying this for a while lol. I feel like I’m yelling into the void most of the time

[lunar musk]

i have a friend thats gonna be interviewed by devs for early soc kingdom experience

gave him my opinions on what to tell them

[mighty viper]

The player base is also pretty apathetic about anything that’s not SOC

[lunar musk]

i said that the main things to care for are soc sleepers and the fact that half the kds die before kvk4 and that its a shitshow

genuinely all itd take is to

remove cross season migration

rapidly increase early game progression for vip ghs gear and tech

make the early game last half a year at most

and boom

suddenly the games more alive

[mighty viper]

Honestly “SOC sleepers” are one of the worst named methods to exist but that’s a separate conversation

[lunar musk]

its what stuck

but no reason to have that convo again

[light spire]

any mod online?
why i cant post in recruitment channel
can someone help me and guide?

[lunar musk]

soc loopers fits better

looping is just a stupid thing overall

[mighty viper]

Yes looped fits better

[lunar musk]

kvk2 looping genuinely saved the accounts of people i know but kvk1 and kvk4 looping has not done any good

[mighty viper]

Or just call them jumpers and confuse the absolute hell out of everyone

[lunar musk]

backwards jumpers

[mighty viper]

No drop the backwards, it actually makes sense so we shouldn’t do that

[lunar musk]

lol

[fringe sable]

Ohh yeah that item it will be 18- 20 days cuz it needs the kingdom you are going to needs to be atleast 10 days old that's it

[icy reef]

How can I make my loadouts save gear and armaments?

annoying to move normal gear onto chaining marches manually

[fringe sable]

Go to commander gear window and there loadout on the right side there you can save it or you can save equipments with marches also by turning on a setting (look for it it's there)

[native sable]

There is an option to activate in ... Well the options lol

[icy reef]

ill look again i must have missed it

[native sable]

Isnt it 3 weeks ? (Guess you count the 1 week of match maning after the first registration period ?)

[lunar musk]

its 4

4 weeks of offseason then pop

[lunar musk]

for those that didnt register itd be another week of off

[fluid flicker]

Tried

Not as great fun as swarming farms

[lunar musk]

L

i swarm proper cities

more fun

easier to snipe

dont be scared of deads

[kindred ingot]

Anyone is in kd 4040 ?

[lunar musk]

no

ur the onlz one there

[fresh charm]

Where can I find coordinates for locations suitable for the barbarian chain?

[lunar musk]

just find wherever theres barbs in clusters

nobody can tell you where in your kingdom are clusters of barbs

[fresh charm]

If I'm not mistaken, all kingdoms are divided into 4 types, A, B, C, D. Isn't there some website where the coordinates of suitable places are stored?

[lunar musk]

no because barb spawns are random

barbs spawn randomly you just gotta find spots with groups of barbs

[white tapir]

[fringe sable]

What has more value sleeper method or $5 lucrene scrolls 👀 ?

[lunar musk]

tf is a sleeper build

[fringe sable]

Lol 😂😂 i think i mixed the wrong words (I'm not a gym rat)

Mb

[lunar musk]

what did u mix the words with

cant imagine a single thing that can relate to a sleeper build in terms of in game purchase

[lunar musk]

there we go. doesnt have to be mutually exclusive though does it?

i dont see why you cant sleep and then buy lucerne in target kd

[fringe sable]

The 1st one you can't

[lunar musk]

you cant what

sleep and then buy lucerne?

[fringe sable]

It's not visible until next season starts ?

[lunar musk]

what

think of it like this

assume you get lucerne day 20 in your current kd

if you sleep to a kd 5 days younger

when that kd hits day 20 u can buy lucerne there

just dont bother buying lucerne in kd ur gonna leave

[fringe sable]

It's like when you build your trading post you get registered for this kingdom and if you go to next kingdom you can't participate in that particular lucrene scrolls that is going to come

It just doesn't show on your trading post

You get registered in kingdom A
So until that ends you can not register in any other

[lunar musk]

thats not how it works

lol

so

heres how it works

if i migrate to a kd that didnt have a lucerne start yet

when that lucerne starts there i will have it

if i migrate AFTER their lucerne started, i wont have their lucerne

[fringe sable]

Yeah looks like I was in wrong lol

Thanks for clearing my doubt 👍👍

[fresh charm]

Will there be redeem codes for March 8th?

[tender magnet]

hey guys i want to buy something with 5,99€ what should i buy ?

[lunar musk]

lucerne scrolls or discount gem supply if u have it

[blazing condor]

Hello, does building cf take space as much as flag?

With the circle building range

[ornate mantle]

A CF has a bigger range

[blazing condor]

Thank you

[ornate mantle]

You are welcome

[mental walrus]

The achievement gives you a 5 min speedup

[blazing condor]

Can it be built if the range obstruct enemy territory by a little?

[mental walrus]

@mighty viper it’s literally the reset of once kvk2 ends

[ornate mantle]

Achievements are a joke...

[mental walrus]

Not closes, ends

[mental walrus]

🤷‍♂️

[ornate mantle]

It has so much potential...

And then they give it 5/10min speedups

[blazing condor]

Anyone know?

[ornate mantle]

Yeah, you can

Be aware tho, they can burn your flag then

[blazing condor]

Ah 🥲that makes things complicated

[ornate mantle]

As long as the flag itself isnt on their territory, you are fine

[blazing condor]

It means the z6 has to be fully covered man

[ornate mantle]

Do you want to block a kingdom out of z6?

[cunning oar]

wym, u dont want 60min speeds after expertise Barca?

[blazing condor]

Yea

[lunar musk]

it was reset of last day before kvk2 ends iirc but apparently they then shadow changed it to start even later
classic lilith move to make stupid changes silently

[ornate mantle]

😭

[ornate mantle]

Take the passes, so they cant come into z6

And then zero everyone left

[blazing condor]

Againts enemy camp 🤣

Diagonal kvk

[dusty kelp]

Why can't I tp to territory with a territory tp 💀

[little lintel]

i am confused now zman

i asked customer support

[modest vigil]

-# Suggested command: </cs:1374685294816661534>

[lunar musk]

support bad outdated

[little lintel]

seems like it 😂

i just want clear answer ugh

[blazing condor]

Site territory

Your cf touch the site probably

[stable flame]

rn Im running mina+ysg for kvk 2 after careful consideration I was thinking the KP gain perfight would js be too low so I'm debating on a 2nd march plan is craft good purple gear(no legendaries) for BB/Aeth and when commander swap comes id have enought to exp 2 commanders so I was thinking Arthur Achilles assuming it's still the meta march and I'd js dismantle all the epic gear for a full legendary gear. Is this a good choice

[lunar musk]

not only should you not go 2 of a troop type till you have at least 1 inf 1 cav 1 archer march

but also a full purple no legendary set wont be good in kvk2

kvk2 wont give u that much kp anyway just stick to focusing on preparing for soc

[stable flame]

🫡

also after I finish getting to lvl 30 in karuaks ceremony and I migrate after without waiting for the rewards do I still get the final rewards

[dusty kelp]

So i can't tp to 0 people yet 💔 lol

Cuz these randoms can't place cf properly

[blazing condor]

Can I still complete AM quest while outside alliance? I have it on progress

[blazing condor]

Tell them to build flag lol

[native sable]

No, ive failed myself enough time to know it well

[blazing condor]

🥲

[eager fern]

Is it better to get Mulan or Ethelfleda to start?

[native sable]

Aethelflaed

[eager fern]

Is there any way to level up characters quickly besides using books? Barbarians give very little experience.

[native sable]

Barbarian, books and guardians

[eager fern]

thanks

[cunning oar]

better ring or savage totem to chain?

[rigid idol]

If I’m just doing ceroli for mats is normal better than legendary since it gives 21 blue mats per boss compared to 7 with a chance of bones on legend or do the coins affect how many mats I can buy from the store?

[cunning oar]

normal u get one of the showed ones, not all

[sage matrix]

which comander should i use with sun tzu?

[mighty viper]

Aeth

[sage matrix]

also which buildings should i upgrade first ?

[mighty viper]

The buildings needed to upgrade your ch

[junior oyster]

i have 13 more days till pre kvk my sun is lvl 55 60 is possbile? no books rn

[mighty viper]

Possibly

[hybrid bobcat]

Hi ! Just got back from the game after quite some time, is "Targeted Immigration" (from the "Welcome back" event) considered Illegal immigration for kd's?

[mighty viper]

Often yes

[sage matrix]

what is a good duo for minamoto?

[mighty viper]

In what context?

[sage matrix]

for open field

[mighty viper]

YSG, Sun, Bai

[sage matrix]

i use sun as secondary or primary

[mighty viper]

Secondary

[sage matrix]

should i level up cao cao or he is not good

sorry for many questions is my first time playing

[lunar musk]

not good

[hybrid bobcat]

Thank you !

[rugged turtle]

For my 3 farm accounts should I even be upgrading fighting commanders or focus 3 gatherers to 37 then maybe the pvp commanders

I was thinking for sunset or anything like that but is that worth or nah

[mighty viper]

He’s trash, ignore him

[mighty viper]

Farms should focus on gathering commanders

[lethal jacinth]

@mental walrus eternal night or start iconic 2'ing stuff

[undone steeple]

Is kvk 2 matchmaking top 300 or 400

[rose narwhal]

Top 300 I assume due to the star counting only top 300

[undone steeple]

Okay

[ionic venture]

For Minamoto fort build what purple equipment should I go for?

[rose narwhal]

Shouldn't really be doing fort builds tbh just normal gear

[kindred kelp]

Hi, someone just told me I'm active on top 50, how did they find that out?

[kindred kelp]

You're considered to be very lucky if you have made it that far so don't worry 😅 ask your alliance members if you have some

[rose narwhal]

Can u show a screenshot

Chances are it's a bot

[kindred kelp]

It's my alliance rank 4

Maybe he or she was speaking about the alliance members I don't think that's possible to find out either

I wonder if it's true what are people are saying here

However you have reminded me of a new suggestion thanks

[rose narwhal]

I am sorry I am extremely confused

Oooooo

It's your r4

They see active people yeah

[kindred kelp]

I'm a leader baby

Now tell me how this suggestion works

I'm pressing post but it's not working out

[rose narwhal]

Well you have to write the suggestion I think, you wrote it on the title

Might not be that idk

[kindred kelp]

Nope I have deleted it for more privacy

You should go and make manual rally possible so I can make a big mess in my enemy territory

Also why archers are dying slower when facing cavalry in fighting?

Except in unique fights of corse

They die pretty quickly there no chance to run

[kindred kelp]

Gotta be the tag its not working

[rose narwhal]

They're slow and not really good pre SOC tbh

[rose narwhal]

You can alr do that

I don't think I'm understanding properly

[kindred kelp]

Just like how you kill people farming or do barbarians in solo mode

Or fight another governor's troop

This will only make your troop much bigger so you can fight longer 😉

It's good to have 1.000.000 troops or more in the leader's hand better than those messy kvk that I seen once lol maybe also r4 can do that I don't know just a suggestion

My suggestion isn't working unfortunately so I'll have to post them here and you fill it up later ok

[dawn otter]

1% all damage in kvk isnt kinda irrelevant?

[kindred kelp]

I never been there I usally loose everything before the game even starts 😁

[kindred kelp]

I'm not sure what you mean by that pre SOC, but I noticed archers dying way slower when they are packed with a mixed troop of infantry or cavalry together

Please tag me, I'm out peace

[lunar musk]

Because the game isnt intended to be played with mixed troops

Unless u mean multiple marches

[kindred kelp]

I'm saying for example if 3000 cavalry fight 1000 of each archers are supposed to go down faster than the infantry and cavalry, so results shall be 0 archers 500 infantry 300 cavalry propably when the 1000 cavalry are down to 600

[lunar musk]

What

[kindred kelp]

It only makes sence they will die quicker

Check cavalry talent for more

[lunar musk]

@rose narwhal ?

Help me out

[kindred kelp]

One says it adds damage VS archers

[rose narwhal]

I mean there's something close called an army group in which one person control various people's marches but I do not believe that's unlocked yet for you

[kindred kelp]

Nope I'm speaking about rally like the one used in fighting barbarian forts this is different and can be used since level 4 or 3

[lunar musk]

@kindred kelp The game isnt played in a way that makes sense to have multiple troop types in single march. Just a fyi

[rose narwhal]

I think he's saying since cav counters archers and u have all 3 troop types on one army then the archers should die quicker but tbh idk

[lunar musk]

It depends on who has the most defensive stats

[kindred kelp]

Ya but at least make the most of it? I was fighting a mixed army and noticed their archers death rate is tricky

[lunar musk]

In a city garrison if u have gorgo on the wall with inf gear, inf units die last

[kindred kelp]

Archers are supposed to go down faster if equally fought

[lunar musk]

Make the most of what

Its not viable

Just dont do it at all

[kindred kelp]

Hitting a stone is not like hitting a rock Iko.

[lunar musk]

Death rate in a mixed march depends on who has the most defensive stats. For example if i have an archer commander giving archer stats

[lunar musk]

What?

Mentions of lvl 4 and 5 barb forts strongly suggest youre a new player to me

[kindred kelp]

🤔 If you wanna take it seriously cutting paper is 'not like cutting scissors

[lunar musk]

Dont worry about all that. Follow guides and let yourself learn overtime why and how some things are done

[lunar musk]

Again, what?

[kindred kelp]

Nope, fighting mixed army with cavalry only is great disadvantage

[lunar musk]

Fighting mixed army with whatever isnt mixed is great advantage

Dont try to reinvent the wheel

[kindred kelp]

I'm not I promiss

[lunar musk]

Theres a reason tens millions of players not a single one does mixed marches thinking its a great 1v1 advantage

[kindred kelp]

Army with man and babies who do you think will survive more?

🤔

[lunar musk]

Wrong analogy. Army of random citizens vs a bunch of trained soldiers

[dawn otter]

\

[lunar musk]

What even is going on atp

This server never fails to surprise me

[rose narwhal]

[kindred kelp]

I'm making it look real here game says cavalry counter archers

[cunning oar]

they just do a bit more dmg, but ia not really game changer itself

[dawn otter]

https://tenor.com/view/bunnies-swtags-what-confused-meh-gif-15295147

[kindred kelp]

How come they die equally with man

[lunar musk]

Well youre completely failing to realize most commanders benefit only a designated troop type, and the raw counter mechanic is a little bit of damage that is not nearly as relevant as that

Hence having mixed troops automatically ruins multiple things:
1- non designated troop types in the mix dont get benefits
2- certain talents and skills require not having mix, so you lose them

[cunning oar]

is that the new Bjorn?

[kindred kelp]

Nah, game devolopper made a mistake by taking a bad decision, you guys don't see it but I do 😏

[lunar musk]

This one just seems like someone rawdogging the game

Nvm

It is a bjorn

Welcome back zaak

[cunning oar]

bro alt

[kindred kelp]

Baby die first keep that in mind

😂

[cunning oar]

https://discord.com/channels/474739462589382667/1345010805388869632

[kindred kelp]

I'm done here ill come back if I have more

[lunar musk]

@cunning oar

When did zak get banned

Compare it to acc creation date

Would you look at that

Lines up perfectly

[cunning oar]

#🌟〡commanders message
around that

[kindred kelp]

@cunning oar im trying but not working with the tags

[lunar musk]

Its the same date

Im not even joking

Are we deadass

[cunning oar]

[rose narwhal]

Holy conspiracy theory 😭

[kindred kelp]

Please change equal fighting because it's not even real thank you

[cunning oar]

Perhaps the behavior is uncanny similar.

[fast niche]

hello guys sun,lc or sun,ww which one is the best?

[kindred kelp]

Also some commanders like Tarik ibn ziyed have bonus damage VS cavalry they should die first too

🤷

Honestly I don't know how this calculation works but it makes sence for me if they die more than the rest

Let me know what you think. Thanks

[rose narwhal]

Tarik already dies fast enough in open field tbh

[lunar musk]

@rose narwhal

level 4-5 forts

with tarik available

unless the acc creation was specifically in kvk3

its bs

[kindred kelp]

That doesn't change the fact bro like

[rose narwhal]

Might be someone who had an old account and just retook it now

[lunar musk]

@kindred kelp kingdom number?

[kindred kelp]

I was hoping to see more dead archers but nothing changed

[kindred kelp]

???

[lunar musk]

@rose narwhal come on

benefit of the doubt goes only so far

[kindred kelp]

I'm still as close as a discovery player

I don't think it matters but I think I'm in 4044

7 days game play

[lunar musk]

nice bs

[kindred kelp]

Bs?

[lunar musk]

u cant know who tarik is by being in 4044

[rose narwhal]

🤷

[kindred kelp]

I had a level 24 in the past and I think it passed to 25

[lunar musk]

u cant know who tarik is by being in 4044

not that complicated

[kindred kelp]

I have like 9 accounts three mains are 10mpower 500k x2

I got Tarik from Golden chests in the travia

[lunar musk]

@mental walrus

[kindred kelp]

He did good fighting cavalry in the ticket thing from daily quests

[lunar musk]

come check this out

[kindred kelp]

I don't even remember my name lol

I was a leader before account name salahuddine

[lunar musk]

u sure it wasnt zak

[kindred kelp]

What Zak???

[lunar musk]

If u dont have any more questions move to general

[kindred kelp]

What if im Zak ? Or whoever you are accusing me with, I'm here for the game not for your personal past problems ok

[kindred kelp]

Ya don't go that far, I'm not here to be "told" by your kind.

[lunar musk]

💀

@cunning oar

[kindred kelp]

Ya, scissors vs rocks don't work

Better luck next time

[cunning oar]

https://tenor.com/view/aniyabea-yt-man-stare-ab-yt-man-stare-aniyab-gif-10494397403125281154

[kindred kelp]

Now goodbye enjoy your suggestion

[lunar musk]

Tiny scissor with pebbles vs a giant alluminum sheet doesnt work

[kindred kelp]

Babies die faster ok...

Not here to fight I don't even know you..

I'm here for rok love.

[lunar musk]

Cool beans

[kindred kelp]

Now goodbye..

[lunar musk]

Cya

[mighty viper]

[rose narwhal]

[mighty viper]

Y’all need to yap in #☕〡general not here

[lunar musk]

Hey i wont listen to the likes of you !!!!!

😂 😭 😭

[mighty viper]

Well how about Ruz? Because he will absolutely endorse what I just said

[lunar musk]

It was a funny referance to the guy above

[rose narwhal]

Scroll up a bit zman you're gonna laugh

[rose narwhal]

Like I mean

[lunar musk]

^^

[mighty viper]

I’ve been reading this conversation off and on

[cunning oar]

'productive' conversation

[lunar musk]

😭

[mighty viper]

Idiots gonna do what they’re gonna do. Just like in this conversation #1478189978172260486 message

[rose narwhal]

[lunar musk]

I disagree with original suggestion but one glance and i can tell the argument is that people arent in D seed and thats so wrong

D and C seed is still rlly active, the difference is simply how much fighting those players can endure individually

More fights in higher seeds isnt cuz more players but moreso those players are a lot more active or sustain more

[cunning oar]

i have impression ppl think low seeds are 'true dead' kvks

[tight kraken]

What s the ratio of trading wood and gold pls ?

[lunar musk]

1:2

[tight kraken]

Serious 😒? Not 1:3?

[tight kraken]

I m Seed D and there is activity, but during war, not a lot of player

[lunar musk]

1:2 for sure

[lunar musk]

Yeah fair

[tight kraken]

Thanks

[kindred kelp]

The cavalry needs to surround the infantry and the cavalry once the archers are all dead, that way we will feel the presence and the difference of a mameluk cavalry army

[rose turret]

Should I use starlight sculptures for cao cao or save them for a better commander I am new to the game

[kindred kelp]

I think they are fighting them one by one like 1 cavalry the 1 infantry then 1 archer

They end up getting stomped like that

[rose narwhal]

Save

[kindred kelp]

Let's say 3 different armies 1k of each, fight one army that trippled them, who wins first?

Same units, just spreaded

If game is fair I think they will all go down in the end

3-3 = 0

[small thunder]

What is exact date of this zenith? Anyone know

[kindred kelp]

3-1-1-1=0

I had cavalry bonus by 20% so his cavalry and archers shall have great disadvantage at that case but it felt like he was having unexplained advantage on me

[cunning oar]

@lunar musk good stuff

[kindred kelp]

OK I'm out if I'm being ignored

Tag before you respond thanks

Check if devolopper can test this out in a simulation before I can keep playing

[rose narwhal]

Exact date hasn't yet been revealed I so not think

[small thunder]

When would they reveal? I want to time my stuff for it

[rose narwhal]

Check their Instagram regularly and see if any news appear I guess

Usually they anticipate things there

[small thunder]

Ok

[tall moat]

Whats ghe recommended speedups to keep for healing if i just got t5 arch and i want minimum 500 mil kp

[rose narwhal]

Depends on your trades

[mental walrus]

Eternal night I guess

[mental walrus]

What am I reading

[rancid rivet]

If I am migrating back to redo kvk 2 should I try to get like a kvk 2 commander already?

I did not get any kvk 2 commander cuz I felt like I didn’t have enough gold heads and I was waiting for commander swap but since I am restarting kvk 2 idk if I will be able to participate in commander swap event

[worn mango]

is greece good for open field

[high linden]

like the civ buff or the unit

[worn mango]

the buff

cause isnt hp really good

[high linden]

nah

france or rome better

refer to this message

[worn mango]

i see

i was thinking about going cav but idk seems more expensive then inf

the german buff looks good

[icy reef]

whats special about tides of war kvk ? I've only played kvk 1, from what I see it's just different buffs you can pick every few days, is that it?

nvm i found info in game

[tall moat]

im assuming gonna be positive since b seed kingdom, ill be t5 full geared thuth ysg into mostly t4s

[small pebble]

How many gems would i need to spend on hammer event in order to get 36 epic mats

[rose narwhal]

As many as you can have tbh there's not a minimal number

[rose narwhal]

Can't know it's luck based 😭

[small pebble]

i know there still is a "guaranteed" and "avg" number in luck

[rose narwhal]

I mean to be honest if you know that you can just do the maths with probabilities but truly we can't know

[small pebble]

yeah i can do the maths but asking for the math result is easier XD

thanks anyways <3

[white tapir]

which one could i wishlist for pincer?

[mental walrus]

do you really have to ping me

[mental walrus]

very right

[white tapir]

same for delta and wedge?

[mental walrus]

delta can do the butterfly, which i think is the second one

wedge is very right

[lethal jacinth]

@mental walrus Should I farm food or wood

[white tapir]

ok, thank you!

[mental walrus]

whichever one you need more

if they're equal then farm them equal

i forget which ones require what

[lethal jacinth]

mmmmm

i use 3 type so probably evens out

[rose narwhal]

I think Cavs and inf use food and archers and Cavs stone, and inf wood if I'm not mistaken?

[mental walrus]

cav - food/stone
inf - food/wood
archer - wood/stone

gather equal amount

[lethal jacinth]

even ish

[mental walrus]

yeah that's pretty equal

[lethal jacinth]

now the bigger question

if i healed 2b how much kp should i have gotten

[mental walrus]

idk

[lethal jacinth]

🙁

i got 150m sound ok?

healing t4

[mental walrus]

🤷‍♂️

[lament anvil]

If im trying to pair baibars and sun tzu wich one should i be using as primary

[mental walrus]

baibars

[high linden]

Yes

It's necassary

[rancid rivet]

?

[lethal jacinth]

No

[rancid rivet]

Okk thanks

[lean matrix]

Can you join custom ark matches if the person who made them is in a different kingdom

[burnt goblet]

I am an inf main with 4 gold pieces of gear 2 crit. I have maxed sun tzu and maxed ysg by the end of kvk 1 with vip 13(60k from 14). I want to run Exp Thut YSG and Exp Sun Aeth in k2. My thut is at 5411 and I will buy him from dailies soon. My Aeth is at 5543. I have 61 gold heads. Is this possible?

[high linden]

yea

[mighty viper]

It’s not advisable

[burnt goblet]

Wdym

[high linden]

well you only have 61 gh

and you don't have archer equipment built out

its best if u just keep rocking the inf as you'll still perform fine

[burnt goblet]

I have bps for archers

[high linden]

which

[burnt goblet]

Db helm

Purple weapon

Few others

[mighty viper]

Do you have the materials to make them all rn?

[burnt goblet]

Nope

[high linden]

then dont go for it

[mighty viper]

Then you really can’t make them, don’t do it

[high linden]

just rock sun ysg

[burnt goblet]

Ts is boring

[high linden]

still a solid march into kvk2

[burnt goblet]

No point in Alex ysg right?

[mighty viper]

Spend more money then

[burnt goblet]

Anymore?

[mighty viper]

No

[high linden]

u dont have the gh so no

[burnt goblet]

Ok

[mighty viper]

Alex is a skip

[burnt goblet]

If I repeat k2 and I have gold inf gear and solid archer gear can I run two marches.

Cus by then I’ll have thut exp

[mighty viper]

Probably not. “Solid” gear would be gold gear

[burnt goblet]

Cuh

[mighty viper]

Repeating KVK2 is super difficult anyway and you may miss out on rewards from the first KVK2

[burnt goblet]

I’m planning on winning first kvk 2 and then migrating back to do another.

Idk how repeating is that hard.

[mighty viper]

There’s a reason KVK2 is known as the “betrayal KVK” don’t count on a win

[burnt goblet]

We prob gon 2v6 bruh

If we get betrayed on a 2v6 ggs

[mighty viper]

Doubtful lol

Cocky KDs tend to get smacked

[burnt goblet]

lol

So stay 1 march

This what I have rn

[mighty viper]

Run Sun/YsG and forget about the rest

You’d need Thut to be both exp and level 60 to be worth anything

[burnt goblet]

I think city keeper markswoman would do better no?

[mighty viper]

No

[burnt goblet]

Lollll

Alr thanks for the help.

[mighty viper]

You’re welcome

[rancid rivet]

I am planning on migrating to redo kvk 2 and apparently I can’t do commander swap cuz it happens too late. I didn’t really invest in any kvk 2 commander cuz I felt like I didn’t have the ressources for it and I would just wait for commander swap

Should I like invest in a kvk 2 commander now?

And maybe swap another legendary commander when it’s finally time

[rose narwhal]

Make sure u don't miss swap

[rose narwhal]

Would you be migrating before swap happens?

Please bear in mind if swap happens and you migrate during it you will never get it back

[rancid rivet]

I thought the swap happens too late? If I can I would like to do the swap before migrating back

[rose narwhal]

Swap happens at the start of kvk 3 off season/end of kvk 3

[mighty viper]

Why would you want it before migrating back?

[rose narwhal]

But regardless no I wouldn't invest in any K2 commanders

[rancid rivet]

Cuz I don’t have any commanders from after K1

[mighty viper]

Ok and?

[rancid rivet]

So I should migrate before the commander swap happens? And keep using my K1 commanders?

[rancid rivet]

I thought staying with K1 commanders would set me back

[mighty viper]

Probably

[mighty viper]

How so?

[rancid rivet]

Cuz even right now I feel like I am really weak in fights

[rancid rivet]

I don’t know I just thought since they release new commanders surely they are better

[mighty viper]

If you’re low spending or F2P that will never go away

[rose narwhal]

Assuming you're a low spender I would use the swap to... Swap (I hate repeating words ffs) a gold key commander that's at 5511 or something and use that as a boost so you have some work done on a SOC commander

[mighty viper]

Not really

[rose narwhal]

Arguably except CJ and maybe Cyrus the rest are straight up garbage

Edward Tomy decent for rallies but that doesn't concern most of the people in KvK 2

[rancid rivet]

Ok so I should migrate before commander swap, then redo kvk 2 then once there is swap swap to a k3 commander?

[mighty viper]

Even then the value for F2P and low spenders is questionable at best

[rose narwhal]

That's what most people do, if you migrate after swap you'd be migrating through cross season anyways

[rancid rivet]

Even when I dueled like someone barely more powerful than me my march was dominated

[rose narwhal]

Cause you're at KvK 3 off season at that point

And the cross migration slots are very limited

[rancid rivet]

Ooh I was thinking of migrating during off season cuz I am migrating with friends and they need to save up passports

Is it dangerous for swap to happen if I migrate after k2 is over

[rose narwhal]

Probably but after K2 you'd be taking a cross migration slot

Are you sure you'd be granted one

[rancid rivet]

Probably not lol

[rose narwhal]

That's another thing to consider

[rancid rivet]

So need to migrate before kvk 2 end right

[rose narwhal]

Yes

[rancid rivet]

Okk thanks

What else do I need to consider?

[rose narwhal]

Off the top of my head just that if you migrate after K2 it counts as cross migration, I guess take into account the 60 day rule for same season migration

And don't spend on any K2 commander, just swap a gold key and call it a day tbh

[rancid rivet]

So swap a gold key for a k3 commander after I did kvk 2 again right?

[rose narwhal]

Yes

[rancid rivet]

Okk last question I am only able to redo kvk 2 once right

[rose narwhal]

Just to leave it all clear together, don't spend on KvK 2 commanders, migrate BEFORE KvK 2 ends as to not take a migration spot, take into account the 60 days rule, and when in your new KD swap arrives just make sure to swap your highest gold key commanders so you can get a little boost to the skill levels.

[rose narwhal]

I believe so but it's dependant on account age, however 60 days rule u most likely won't be able to repeat it twice

[rancid rivet]

Oook got it thank you so much that was really helpful!!

[rose narwhal]

[dusty tangle]

How does migrating work what are the requirements and how long do I have to wait to migrate

[rose narwhal]

30 days and yes there are, you can only go back 10 days from your starting kingdom for KvK 1

[dusty tangle]

Oh okay thanks

[vale plover]

anybody have a talent tree for sun szu

[mighty viper]

https://discord.com/channels/474739462589382667/1431843509043990689

[rose narwhal]

<@&474755271684653067> uhm

Well that was quick

[lethal jacinth]

do pass 4’s not open in stratagem

[keen flicker]

that is not me

[rancid rivet]

Does choosing the wrong formation have big impacts? I chose square formation and learned later that it was the wrong one so now I am pulling for wedge and Pincer but until then I’m still using square

[tall moat]

Is there an efficient way to roll for stats? (Rn i want archer, am thith ysg)

[heavy bolt]

so is counterattack reduction the same thing as normal dmg reduction basically?

[low void]

Guys im in preparation season the migration rules r clear u can't migrate to a younger kd if it's younger than ur starting kd by more than 10 days

[modest vigil]

-# Suggested command: </servercap:1374685213871050784>

[low void]

But what about migrating rules in season 1

Is it the same rules?

cuz i want to migrate to a younger kd

[lunar musk]

Zak 2.0

[potent vale]

What's the play Here?

[mighty viper]

In season 1 it should be limited to the 4 KDs within your KVK

[low void]

Oh fahh so rules in season 1 r more strict

[mighty viper]

Yes because 99% of the migration should happen during prep season

[rugged turtle]

If I’m not in an alliance how can I get into the lost kingdom

[mighty viper]

You don’t

[rugged turtle]

Can I join if I join a small alliance

[modest vigil]

-# Suggested command: </recruit:1374685173886619669>

[rugged turtle]

I can’t get a passport

Ftp and all the alliances don’t accept me to buy in their shop

[white tapir]

Find some alliance which says "anyone can join"

Or save up gems to start your own

[rugged turtle]

Okay I am now in an alliance but I don’t see where to join or apply to join

[modest vigil]

-# Suggested command: </recruit:1374685173886619669>

[icy reef]

swarming is only for like 140m+ players right (players who have a lot of troops to throw away)? like i shouldn't be thinking of doing that at all ? (swarming garrison and rallies)

[limber scroll]

Depends on your commanders

And which pairing can be improved

Field wise

Rally / Garrison it depends on your specialty

[lethal jacinth]

Don’t swarm if ur not big

[icy reef]

ok thx

[lethal jacinth]

You don’t lose troops when you swarm rally

You just uh

Get a big hospital bill

That might make you cry

[white tapir]

[limber scroll]

If its a strong counter rally and you swarm with multiple marches, you get your hospital instantly full and lots of dead troops

[lethal jacinth]

Sure i guess

Happened to me uhh

This kvk

Not fun

[limber scroll]

😂

[lethal jacinth]

Gave us like no fights so ws like y not