❓〡questions

[hardy spade]

I used the narrow spot method for chaining, but forts seem to give castle books and more xp

[rose narwhal]

Then do forts yeah, also valid point the chests one

I mean in off season you do forts and on KvK u chain but for a new account I've seen a lot of people just spawn chain and get a bunch of speeds so

Guess it depends on luck and what not

[icy reef]

Can I migrate kvk1 to soc

[spark elk]

What do you think

[mighty viper]

No. Why would you want to?

[icy reef]

I found an account to buy but i dont want to play without farms

(On wontrade)

[icy reef]

Idk bruh i was hoping i dont have to afk a year

[mighty viper]

So buy farms then

[icy reef]

[paper snow]

Yo

Just got back after 1 year vacation off RoK

What happened

[mighty viper]

A lot lol. Depends on what you want to know about

[paper snow]

Restarting?

I heard that there is no beginners tp now

[mighty viper]

Beginner’s Migration*

[paper snow]

Its the samee

[mighty viper]

No they are different items

Beginner’s teleports still exist, the migrations don’t

[paper snow]

I mean the same meaning that i am referring too ):

[paper snow]

So its starting from day 1 on your targeted kd now

[mighty viper]

Yes

[paper snow]

That took long to take place

Some justice for new players (:

[mighty viper]

Not really

Sleepers are worse for kingdom health overall

[paper snow]

I mean how can you stop sleeping

I forgot how even sleeping works

Isn’t it just migrating?

[mighty viper]

By stopping all migrations pre-KVK1

[mighty viper]

Yeah it is

[paper snow]

I meann this would be kinda messed

There is a lot of civil wars

[mighty viper]

Yeah lol

[paper snow]

Some ppl might be stuck with civil wars

[mighty viper]

There already is, and the extra influx of sellers can cause a civil war if not managed correctly

[paper snow]

Maybe limit the migration pre-kvk1 only for kingdoms in the same region?

For example 4000-4001-4002-4003 is a group and if you are in one of these kds you can only migrate to another from the same group

[mighty viper]

That would still be extremely limited considering that’s three options down from 20ish options as it is currently

( 10d in either direction with the average being one KD a day)

[paper snow]

This still kinda doesn’t solve it

Idk

[mighty viper]

Yeah there’s no good solutions lol

[paper snow]

It is what it is then

[mighty viper]

And arguably sleepers are only as bing and as toxic as they are because they removed beginner’s migration

[paper snow]

Removing beginner’s migration was a GOOD move

[mighty viper]

Sleepers where a gimmick before jumpers ceased to exist

[mighty viper]

Perhaps, but it opened the door to something worse

[novel schooner]

When do new servers start is it as soon as the newest one reaches 20k ppl in bronze age?

[mighty viper]

No it’s random

[paper snow]

Fr? I thought it was either this or after 12h

[novel schooner]

Do you know the time range by any chance

[mighty viper]

It’s a formula with several unknown variables making it effectively random

[mighty viper]

In game the calendar estimates the day, but it can be anytime during that day, and the prediction dates can change

[novel schooner]

Kk ty

[mighty viper]

You’re welcome

[novel schooner]

What does reserving a spot in the server mean??

Like it automatically makes a character? As soon as it releases

[mighty viper]

The game gives you a notification when the KD opens

[paper snow]

Watch out every1

[mighty viper]

?

[novel schooner]

I see kk thx

[mighty viper]

You’re welcome

[paper snow]

I just downloaded RoK back

[mighty viper]

Ah lol

[paper snow]

(:

[final kraken]

Does this mean kvk 3 starts on 26th February?

[earnest nebula]

Replace or don’t replace?

[dawn otter]

I can go to another KD although it sucks , in the previous kvks they didn't do anything at all. But I think its one way option

[tall moat]

im considering pushing t5 kvk2 since i have the speedups to do so, my one worry is actually hjealing, the cost of it, my kvk1 was kind ofa bust, twas a 1v3 and the other 3 kingdoms gave up super quickly, so i dont really have a good idea on costs. If i were to push t5, what would I be looking at as an average cost for healing during a kvk

rn i have 9 farms, but they are only between levels 17 to 19, so all got 4 marches at the very least

[north flare]

Yes, that's when Pre-KvK starts and a few days after you can get in the lost kingdom.

[final kraken]

Ok cos I got a different account in kvk2 in another kingdom which will end in 21 days and I was wondering if I could migrate it to that kd before it enters kvk3

[north flare]

I don't suggest migrating forwards through time, def not when u are in early game, but if it has some kind of reason, and yes u can migrate, as long as the kingdom u are migrating to is NOT in a KvK ur fine, even if the account u are migrating is in a KvK.

[north flare]

.

[final kraken]

Yeah was planning to do my swaps before I migrate it that's why I wanted to know how long before the kd I'm migrating to gets into kvk3

[north flare]

Well your swap is around begin SoC.

Its like 10 days after the end of KvK 3.

[final kraken]

After kvk2, I get my swaps

[north flare]

Huh?

Did they change that or?

[final kraken]

Commander swap comes after kvk2 bro

[north flare]

pretty sure it doesn't.

[final kraken]

Always was after kvk2

[north flare]

No bro 😭

[final kraken]

Lol it does

[north flare]

I had my swap less than like 2 months ago

and it was after kvk 3

[mighty viper]

No before the start of KVK3 lol

[north flare]

Oh yeah mb

I looked it up

[mighty viper]

[north flare]

[final kraken]

Swap ended few days ago here and it is yet to be kvk3

😂

[fallen tundra]

Can I leave alliance when I'm registered on ark?

[north flare]

U will have to join back before ark starts later

[fallen tundra]

Alr

[final kraken]

So I do my swaps then I migrate since the kd I'm migrating to got over 40 days more before kvk3 starts

[north flare]

U can't swap twice tho

I alr think u know that

[final kraken]

Two accounts bro

One is getting into kvk3, one is in kvk2 with 21d left for it to finish, so I was wondering if I have enough time to do my swaps on the one in kvk2 so that I can migrate it to the one that's in kvk3, do I have enough time? @mighty viper . Picture below is the time that the kd that I want to migrate to have till kvk3 starts

[delicate oasis]

what's the begginer codes?

I need to Knowwwww

[mighty viper]

#💻〡redeem․codes

[delicate oasis]

that didn't help

these are all expired codes except of course the working one's

[mighty viper]

Yes

There are no “beginner’s codes” anymore

[stray hamlet]

only code thats not in #💻〡redeem․codes is PlayRok4PC (u can only do this on a laptop or desktop)

[torn egret]

Does vengeance accessory reduce ranged counterattack?

[limber scroll]

Vengeance does not reduce counterattack at all - it only increases your own counterattack

[torn egret]

Whoops read it wrong

[limber scroll]

No worries

[icy reef]

is spamming level 6 forts 1+1 bad if I want books and don't want to use that many gems on them?

using ap pots (ik this is probs dumb)

i dont have patience to chain outside of my daily ap for my ap pots

[little lintel]

1+1 is normally the meta to doing forts

if you wanna get academy 25 asap recommended to do 1+1 forts

[icy reef]

sorry, I guess better question is is using ap (pots) on forts lvl 6 bad?

I don't care for honor

[little lintel]

if you want to push academy 25 that badly its okay

just keep enough for events or potential other push

my personal opinion ofc

[jaunty mirage]

is it worth it spending green lohars for ap

[cunning onyx]

Does 30day gem count as recharge?

[frosty hazel]

Is heliamber supply worth it?

For low spender

[icy reef]

fk no

not even blues ngl

[sand wigeon]

Hello ! In early game is it better to farm forts or barbarians ?

[jaunty mirage]

alr im only spending free ap on lvl 2 forts and blue lohars its kd day 8

[icy reef]

forget what i said

i have no idea what to do kd day 8

[jaunty mirage]

barbs for lohars trial later only forts tbh

[jaunty mirage]

just play and enjoy

[icy reef]

if you don't chain dont hit barbs unless its for a daily task/event

[sand wigeon]

Okay thanks !

[paper snow]

4004 is taking too long to open

[shy citrus]

my alliance didn't register osiris for me, i didn't register silver osiris, is there any way to get reward?

[tawny berry]

When is commander reset

[cunning oar]

no info

[cunning onyx]

Can someone explain the new sleeper method to me xd

[spice grotto]

I got told when i restart i have to have like a minimum of 9m+ power how is that possible cs prepartion season is super short

[storm shale]

Is 6m t4 enough to tank rallies and swarms in kvk

[earnest sable]

Is it worth going for a second march in kvk 2? I am 20min power and i have the speeds to get better inf tech? My Equipment is also decent

Btw i have 1 cav march and my second would be inf

[spice grotto]

I got told to go to restart projects

But i dont get it

Do i dm the maker?

Difference between
Kd final and kd sleeper
Kingdom ads and restart projects
Got told do do restart project but idk how to join
And how its possible to get 9m in 3 monhts minimum as a f2p
Cs it seems impossible

[little lintel]

you play and level up your account to ch16 then migrate to a new opened KD

[little lintel]

dependent on your kvk/garrisson/tech etc

[little lintel]

if you have the comms and gear for it then yes

[sand wigeon]

Is CaoCao first better than Mina first for forts ? I have CC with barbarians tree and Mina with Skill. To loose less troops ?

[little lintel]

9m is possible depending if you are in main alliance

to join restart project see what the Project AD says

[spice grotto]

Main allianxe?

[little lintel]

most times they say DM me, or join this discord etc

[fluid flicker]

Where’s my inf comm 🥲🥲

[little lintel]

where the whales are, Gold chests boost your progression by alot

[spice grotto]

Whales?

[little lintel]

not here yet

[little lintel]

ppl who spend alot of money in the game

[spice grotto]

I know nothing bout this game

[fluid flicker]

I know but want this 😍

[spice grotto]

I jst had a acc that i failed and i found out yesterday when i joined yhe dc

3.5m power

In a s3

And upgraded some wrong comm

[little lintel]

try watching some beginner guides from chisgule for example

for commanders and such feel free to ask here

[spice grotto]

I watxhed like 20 guides already but like its sperif about something everytime

[cunning onyx]

I heard u have to migrate after 20d true?

[spice grotto]

Andd it doesnt say anything abt how kvk works or how the game does it

With alliance

And fights

[little lintel]

you can ask this here

[spice grotto]

Well whats a camp

[little lintel]

its so much material though

[spice grotto]

Yeah ik

[little lintel]

kvk exists of camps that fight against eachother

[spice grotto]

Its burning my braincells

If i restart what comm should i focus on

And then after try getting wifh commanders

And should i eventually have a prim and sec comm for each type

[little lintel]

depends which troop type u wanna go for

[spice grotto]

Should my gatheres be solo or be in one march

[little lintel]

yea but this comes later, focus on one main fighting march at first

[spice grotto]

Went cav on my previous

[little lintel]

best paired with other gathering comms

[spice grotto]

Barbairs

But idm doing anything

Just tell me the best

[little lintel]

meta marches for kvk1

many run for example sun tzu + aethel

as its f2p friendly

a 5511cm + sun also fine but need gh investment

and you normally wanna save them

[spice grotto]

A 5511cm?

Gh investment?

[spice grotto]

But this is like 1 march per type right?

[little lintel]

charles martel

the numbers are the skills

[spice grotto]

But u said 1 main march i should focus

[little lintel]

you can level up a skill to a max of 5

[devout willow]

On KVK 2 - Saladin +? Whos better for rally?

[little lintel]

5511 meaning first 2 skills maxed other leave at 1

[spice grotto]

Ah alright

[little lintel]

gh means gold heads

[spice grotto]

Gold heads?

[little lintel]

this are only examples of marches you can run

[spice grotto]

Ah for each main?

[little lintel]

used to level up legendary commander skills

[spice grotto]

Ooh that

[little lintel]

also come in an epic and blue varient corresponding to the commanders raritxy

[spice grotto]

What do you think i should main?

[little lintel]

personal preference and what kind of march you wanna run in kvk3 and Season oif Conquest

[spice grotto]

Lwk jst tell me what u think is best

[spice grotto]

Ah so is legendary commanders automatically better?

[little lintel]

personal preference is Sun + Aethel

just bc its cheap to get

[little lintel]

yes

[spice grotto]

So then why sun

[little lintel]

normally they are stronger then epic or rare commanders

[little lintel]

because in kvk1 you dont have that much gh yet to bring legendary commanders to a good level

especially as f2p

[spice grotto]

Ahh

Makes sense

I lwk wanna main cav

Wich of the 4 u think is best

And is the left main

And right secondary

Or switched

[little lintel]

left is main

if you wanna run cav but dont spend money

would recommend running baibars + Sun tzu in kvk1

[spice grotto]

And if i do spend money

It would be the top?

Cs i see that archer everywhere

The archer in the cav is soo good its in infantry too lol

[little lintel]

you could buy minamoto, but this commander is pretty much worthless in pvp in kvk3 and after

[little lintel]

YSG is pretty busted in the early kvks for every troop type

but gets used archer only in later stage of the game

[spice grotto]

Wdymn gets ised archer in only layer stage of game?

[spice grotto]

Ysg is that guy i suppose?

[little lintel]

in kvk1 and 2 you can pair them with commanders of other troop types

but later one you match archer + archer commander

inf + inf commander

etc

[spice grotto]

Yeah

Thats kinda what i did in the beginning

On my way”failed” acc

[little lintel]

but in kvk1 and kvk2 you can match some commanders like inf + archer, cav + archer etc

bc the range of unlocked commanders is alot smaller

[spice grotto]

Later its gonna be like the gsh and ysg

[little lintel]

exactly

[spice grotto]

So i lwk wanna get ysg then if its gonna always be useful

[little lintel]

you can

but you want him at a certain investment level

[spice grotto]

So lwk i might jst go infantry main then lol

Sun+ ysg or charles +ysg but i jst saw a vid that charles was bad

A “noob trap”

[little lintel]

dont run cm + ysg if you are f2p

you dont have the gh for that

[spice grotto]

Sun ysg?

[little lintel]

you get a commander swap after kvk2

so even if you invest into charles you can swap him for a meta commander

[spice grotto]

Wdymn?

[little lintel]

at same skill level

[spice grotto]

Oh like that

[little lintel]

thats also a good combo

[spice grotto]

So ur saying i shouldnt do sun

And get 2 legendarys

[little lintel]

no sun is good

[spice grotto]

Cs later i can swap

[little lintel]

as f2p you normally have only enough gh for 1 legenmdary commander in kvk1 and 2

[spice grotto]

Epic

Alright

So what lvl do i get sun
And what lvl ysg

Before i stop

[little lintel]

sun you can expertise

YSG is a bit diffrent

5115 is his budget version

after that you kinda wanna expertise him

because then he gets a circle AoE

[spice grotto]

So i wanna get sun and ysg maxxed?

[little lintel]

if you wanna run this yes

but you wont be able to get YSG maxed in kvk1

[spice grotto]

Is that a problem no right

Not liek its gonna be useless later

U think its a bad choice sun ysg

[little lintel]

you can run YSG at 5115 for example

[spice grotto]

Is there a more popular thing?

[little lintel]

just weaker then his exp

[little lintel]

YSG you can always swap or use later on

its not a bad invest

[spice grotto]

Weaker then exp?

[little lintel]

no still good

[spice grotto]

I meant what does it mean

Weaker then experienxe points

But like.

[little lintel]

expertised means all skills of a commander at max level

if you have this

you unlock another skill

[spice grotto]

Oh yeah ofc hes weaker then his max form

[little lintel]

the 4 outside are his skills

[spice grotto]

Thats ysg?

[little lintel]

the thing in the middle is the expertise

[little lintel]

no Bai Qi

[spice grotto]

Yeah i have that on my baibars

On my failed acc

[frank berry]

Hi

[spice grotto]

Around how many pre-kv spawn a minute?

[little lintel]

hi

[spice grotto]

I mean days

[frank berry]

It is good to go Baibars level 50?

[little lintel]

what do you mean exactly?

[little lintel]

if you run him as your main march commander then you even want him at level 60

[spice grotto]

Like every like idk how much days a nee kingdom spawns

4001

4002

Like that

[little lintel]

its not defined

a new one opens once a certain player treshold is met

[frank berry]

What about the secondary is the sun tzu what level I need to go him

[spice grotto]

And people wanna do pre projects at 60

Like

4060

[little lintel]

yes they waitr until that KD opens

[spice grotto]

Yeah why so far away

[little lintel]

the secondary commander only wants to be at 4 stars so all his skills are unlocked

[spice grotto]

Should i fidn one thats like rn or sum

[little lintel]

but bc you use the skill tree of the main commander

the level of the 2nd comm doesnt matter

[little lintel]

depends on how you wanna start

in a group

as a sleeper acc

or just normal

[spice grotto]

Sleeper?

I never did group on my first acc

[little lintel]

its a certain type of start

[spice grotto]

But i wanna

If thats best

I jst lwk went solo

[little lintel]

you basically create a new acc

[spice grotto]

No alliance accepted lol

[little lintel]

level it up as far as you can but stop at city hall 16

then use normal migration to go to a newly opened KD

[spice grotto]

And then?..

Or is that it

[little lintel]

then yo uhave a headstart on your acc

[spice grotto]

Hm

Isnt sleeper good then

U can sleeper

[stable flame]

Kvk js started where does majority of my individual honour points come from?

[spice grotto]

And then normal or group

[little lintel]

it is takes a bit of time though

but there are alot of guides on it

[little lintel]

which kvk?

[stable flame]

1

[spice grotto]

Yeah no id rather start out with the rest and become super strong have allota power and do actual pvp i never pvpd in this game

Closest thing was a barb fort

And ive done 3 of those

[little lintel]

killing barians or barbarian forts

also there are klvk events that reward some

[little lintel]

best advvice is starting in a organized group

[spice grotto]

So such as projects?

[stable flame]

How much individual points did U have on Ur first kvk

[spice grotto]

Alr then amma find a project thats starts soon

[little lintel]

yea

[little lintel]

its not the same for everyone

[stable flame]

I js wanna know estimates

[little lintel]

depends alot on how much AP you use and on the events and activity

[little lintel]

my kvk 1 was ages ago, cant tell

🫠

[stable flame]

Ah alr

[little lintel]

yes

[spice grotto]

One of em is close

4017

[little lintel]

ask them if you can join still

[spice grotto]

But it says theyr launching late january or early feb

So how does that make sense

Cs 4017 is gonna be like today right

[little lintel]

its an estimate

[stable flame]

When does kvk shop open

[modest vigil]

-# Suggested command: </newserver:1374685106241011713>

[little lintel]

they mostly plan such stuff months prior

[little lintel]

which kvk?

[stable flame]

1

does kvk shop open for me

[little lintel]

there is no kvk shop

in kvk1 i think

this should be exclusive for SoC

[spice grotto]

Alr i made a verification now hope i get accepted

What is kp

[little lintel]

kill points

[spice grotto]

Ah alright thanks for everything btw

Btw i got accepted into the discord

And how do i even get ysg?

💀

[little lintel]

he is unlocked from an event

called wheel of fortune

[small pebble]

how much for 100 spins on wheel of fortune?

[small pebble]

how many gems do i need for when ysg wheel comes? i got like 40k atm day 55 smth of the kingdom

cause i heard it like comes back every 2 weeks or smth

for 2-3 times

[little lintel]

look at left side

69200 for 100 spins

[small pebble]

yeah i get that

but like when does the wheel come back?

so i know if i got time to get another 70k gems to 100 spins it

[little lintel]

fixed schedule

https://codexhelper.com/tools/calendar/

try this

[fast niche]

I have 30 wheel today, so I can only wheel 99 times in total. If I tell Lilith, will they give me one wheel?

[cunning oar]

doubt, should have done +1 yesterday

[fast niche]

I didnt notice

[cunning oar]

can't really do anything about

[scarlet forge]

Being a couple day late to a kingdom is it possible to catch up or nah?

[little lintel]

possible but you miuss being in top alliance prob

[fast niche]

[obtuse vortex]

Guys i need help . So i came after a break ,my gear and commanders are not that big of a problem,but my armaments are like really bad ..even before the break i just didnt have luck and also with a break and skipping kvks i just dont have any good inscribtions. So because combo and smite are now a thing and i didnt use those before i dont have those armaments . Question is is it worth using those things to change my armaments from wedge and arch to smite and combo or i should wait ? As you can see those are terrible ,but i am not sure i can do better any time soon.

Ignore nevsky ,i would use arhut ahil

[sand wigeon]

When should I switch from China to another civ ?

In early game

[golden bluff]

Im currently in super ealry game day 3-4 or the server and i have reached 550k power im ch12 and feels like i have not reached a platue and dont know what to do or how to push power…. Pretty low on speedups and exp books…

[glacial blaze]

should i max out all of the buildings, research, and other stuff before upgrading the city hall or should I just rush my city hall in the early stage of a new kingdom? for context im an f2p.

[earnest sable]

Rush but upgrade academy and help center every city hall

[glacial blaze]

okay, and should i always use speed ups for it?

[earnest sable]

No save them for events where you get extra rewards

[earnest sable]

When city hall 25

[glacial blaze]

alright, i have another question. which city hall level should i stop rushing and start maxing out research, buildings and other upgrades? just so i dont get left behind

[digital laurel]

Is it still possible to migrate an acc from soc back to kvk 1?

Like looper acc

[native sable]

No

[earnest sable]

At 25 but obviously you should always do research

[glacial blaze]

okay, thanks. I'll try to experiment first before I commit to see how long it would take to get to CH 25

[jaunty mirage]

this guy is so hard to beat

at early gamr

game

[north flare]

If you get CH25 before KvK 1 would be good, have T4 ready with 1.5 (300-450K)full marches, I suggest to do 1 march and focus 1 troop type unless you're a spender

[glacial blaze]

how long does KvK1 start to appear? I'm currently experimenting with how fast i can reach CH25 before i fully commit

[ripe shoal]

Whats better, exp sun with 5511 martel/pyrrhus OR exp sun with 5511 ysg. Might be more than 5511

[mighty viper]

Ch 25 or the start of KVK1. Whatever comes first

[jaunty mirage]

who do i upgrade?

[mighty viper]

Sun/Aeth

[jaunty mirage]

only them

[mighty viper]

Yes

[jaunty mirage]

yo what do you think my power is and ch rn? kd day 9

[mighty viper]

Idk, not enough information

[jaunty mirage]

spent only 40 dollars

which info you want

[mighty viper]

Spending level, activity level, commander list, resource list, number of farms, etc

[jaunty mirage]

activity 3-4 hours,commander you saw already. resource willl show you, number of farms 3 (transfered over 10m rss)

[mighty viper]

Atp you should just show me everything and not make me guess

[rose narwhal]

[jaunty mirage]

top 90 of the kd

yall think this is good or could i do better?

[true sorrel]

If you can stay in the top alliance then it's good enough

you can't rush an account without money lol just keep your consistency

[mighty viper]

Exactly lol, if you can stay in the top alliance it is good

[jaunty mirage]

ye its top 2 alliance we have over 200 members that are doing a big sleeper project in 4003 we all going there

[mighty viper]

Good enough for now

[jaunty mirage]

like i said i spent 40 euros

got 6 euros left will save for hope cloak is it good saving it for hope cloak

is my ch good?

[mighty viper]

It’s fine

[jaunty mirage]

? @mighty viper

[mighty viper]

Idk, i don’t spend

[true sorrel]

The answer is still the same 40 euros barely makes a difference

[jaunty mirage]

should i show my tech?

[jaunty mirage]

maybe but should i show my tech

[mighty viper]

Why?

[dense silo]

When you hit ch16 does it give you a passport or do you have to pay the 600k coins

[jaunty mirage]

rate it 1/10 ok?

[rose narwhal]

U have to pay

Or buy

[jaunty mirage]

600k

[dense silo]

Fuhhhhhhh

[mighty viper]

You have to buy it with credits or money

[dense silo]

Thanks yall

[mighty viper]

You’re welcome

[jaunty mirage]

ah sxht cant show cuz my academy is upgrading

but i got engineering lvl 6 and math at 3 or 4 i think

@mighty viper

[mighty viper]

Ok?

[jaunty mirage]

is it good?

[mighty viper]

It’s ok

[jaunty mirage]

do i put aeth at only lvl 40?

[mighty viper]

Sure

[charred terrace]

kd 71 days, 9m8 ( will be up soon) 3 account farms, CH23 top 3 alliance. I need advice, thx

[mighty viper]

Advice on?

[charred terrace]

um, is it good for kvk 1? cuz some of people in my community chat( not kd chat) said my account is weird..

[mighty viper]

It’s good if you can stay in the top alliances

[rose narwhal]

U can leave at 30 as long as the 4th skill is unlocked

[jaunty mirage]

alright

[rose narwhal]

Focus your gear on one march

No point in splitting it all that much

[charred terrace]

thx, and this is my tech rn

focus on infa

[rose narwhal]

I believe it was skill damage?

@terse mason can probably help u more with formations and timing tbh

[terse mason]

Sure

Ask away

[rose narwhal]

Tis

[terse mason]

Na I can't really tell but potentially the new skill dmg formation

Likely yes

Yea, for now I'd wait and save

Work on your delta without conversion stones in the meantime

[molten thicket]

What is this place guys?

[quiet brook]

Is the commander swap event happening rn

[mighty viper]

No

[mighty viper]

Context?

[molten thicket]

I found it in zone 1

[mighty viper]

Show it on the map, zoom out

[lunar musk]

Probably an easter egg

[mighty viper]

Someone probably paid Lilith lol. It’s a decorative feature

[molten thicket]

it looks beautiful

[tall moat]

i have a question is the rock paper scissor of inf cav arch really that big of a deal?

[cunning oar]

on pratice play a very small role, is more about commanders themselfs

[tall moat]

so in my case would a garrison sun cm / sun ysg be better or worse than a ysg thuth garrison into a mina rally?

assuming sun expertized cm not, and both ysg thuth are expertized?

[muted river]

Horn doesn't work for qsh oui?

[cunning oar]

sun on garri is just a no

[cunning oar]

depends on the pair, qsh/zhuge dont need another rage gen as much

[muted river]

But does it depend on talents too?

[cunning oar]

what pair u plan to use?

[muted river]

I have ysg and zhuge but will prolly go zhuge

[cunning oar]

can give the horn to someone elese if alr have

and use like ring/flag

[muted river]

Now the most important question

Do I ditch everything and switch to siege 🤣

[rose narwhal]

Same pics as I have ye were they yours or

Either way it seems to be a kvk bundle

@little lintel see the 48d thingies it may be a weird crystal tech for pre SOC kvks

[little lintel]

waaa

[vast zealot]

nope, found it through someone, and its for a fresh kvk 1 kingdom

[little lintel]

looks fire though

i kinda want that

[rose narwhal]

So it's a kvk bundle indeed

I mean by the way it looks it definitely looks like crystal mine does for SOC

[little lintel]

only weird thing

you cant get mine

without spending

so idk if its available to everyone

[rose narwhal]

Right I didn't see that lol

You're right

[vast zealot]

need to find someone who just entered kvk1

[little lintel]

maybe u only get it through those challenges

[vast zealot]

and by just i mean like the last week probably

[rose narwhal]

This is effectively a horrendous change if it's indeed some kind of crystal tech

[rose narwhal]

Yeah no this just seems to have appeared as one snaps their fingers this is insane

Oh well I'm gonna ask randos who just entered KvK 1 and see if any of them is kind enough to answer

[dawn otter]

Yo Sparkz should I focus 3rd or 4th skill on BQ

[cunning oar]

https://tenor.com/view/kiff-disturbed-shocked-disbelief-kiff-chatterley-gif-17253358345482722790

for most ppl, siege is like 5th or 6th march

[little lintel]

what about those menaces

that main them

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-kermit-the-frog-kermit-the-frog-meme-worried-kermit-sad-kermit-gif-2908512056935738589

[rose narwhal]

If I'm not mistaken u do 5515

[dawn otter]

I upgraded twice and now he is 5 5 3 1 insane

Worth reseting the skills and try again?

[dense silo]

I have a passport why won’t it let me migrate?

[cunning oar]

u need wait kd reach 10 days to migrate

[dense silo]

Oh the kingdoms need to be 10days?

[cunning oar]

yes

[dense silo]

Ok bet thank you

[cunning oar]

yw

[paper snow]

Is Path of Vengeance only 200 lvls? Or continues after 200

[mighty viper]

It’s closer to 500 now I think

But the AFK rewards supposedly fall off after 200

[short oasis]

Dont exp bq

Leave at 5511 and do liu che

[dawn otter]

I expertised liu che

[short oasis]

Time for 2nd march then

[dawn otter]

Oops I spent 90 gh on BQ

And he is 5 5 3 1

But I have skill reset

[peak snow]

Hi guys, can we still migrate with hospital full ?

Migrate while healing

[mighty viper]

Yes

[little mist]

Do commander talents work in path of vengeance and modes like that?

[icy reef]

why does someone have a bai qi in kvk1? they probably cant use it tho but thats funny i thought you couldnt come back

[lethal jacinth]

If kvk is from Jan 21 - … does pre kvk start on Jan 21 or end or sm else

Iirc it starts in hk right and then it ends at kvk start?

[junior oyster]

farm acc only needs tier 1 troops?

[thin parcel]

u wanna farm barbs as well for the rss

so no

[junior oyster]

so tier 2 or tier 3 as well?

or only t2?

[thin parcel]

i run T3 archer, cav and inf and T1 siege and T3 siege for pit

[rose narwhal]

I don't know a single person who genuinely barbs on their farms

Only primus, but his farms got actual garrison marches and all

[thin parcel]

12inchpvpness did it when he used to play

its a lot of extra mats

and just 5 march and ur done in 15 minutes

[junior oyster]

okay i ask it that way

[cunning oar]

all depends how 'burnout' or lazy u alr are

[junior oyster]

under lvl 21

my city hall is lvl 13 only on farm rn

[cunning oar]

can do lvl22 to 5 marchs

[junior oyster]

ye i will do but the question is the tier of troops

bc i didnt upgrade it so farm

far/

i have all t1 90% of them is siege and thats all

[cunning oar]

as long u under ch24, the power dont matter, so depends how much pve u gona do

[junior oyster]

okay ty

[icy reef]

how far can I migrate kvk2 wise? like kd age wise. before kvk1, it was 10 days backwards and forwards, how about before kvk2 starts?

is it really this wide? or is the tooltip outdated

[humble quiver]

I want to restart in mid February as an archer main as a low spender. Would it be smarter to be an infantry main in kvk 1 and 2 to then switch to archer in kvk 3 or should I work on archers throughout

[terse mason]

Uhh

Don't go archers as low spender trust m

[humble quiver]

Even for kvk 3?

[terse mason]

Yes

[humble quiver]

Why not? I heard they’re really good. And to invest into QSH as soon as the Commander swap event comes

[terse mason]

Well wat would you even run then as archer main in kvk 1 and 2

[humble quiver]

I did say I could use Inf for kvk 1 and 2

Then switch to archer for kvk 3+

[terse mason]

Wat about equipment

[humble quiver]

What do you mean?

[austere scroll]

Commander reset coming?

[terse mason]

You gonna have inf equipment then, how would you swap that to archers

[humble quiver]

For archers I can get atleast 2-3 purple and maybe 1 legendary piece of equipment

[humble quiver]

I’ll have blueprints

[dawn otter]

But no mats

[humble quiver]

Before kvk 1 if that’s what I’m using

[terse mason]

What about mats?

I really wouldn't tbh

[humble quiver]

I can get them over time

[terse mason]

[humble quiver]

So archer for kvk 1?

[dawn otter]

Impossible

[terse mason]

Js no

Archers early game too expensive to be worth it

[spice grotto]

Is there a bot here to see what the newest kds are?

[terse mason]

Nop tis the wrong place

[humble quiver]

They come at a random time

[spice grotto]

So it could be a minute

But also like 40 hours

Love the profile btw

[humble quiver]

No

[spice grotto]

❤️‍🩹

[humble quiver]

There’s a new kingdom roughly every day

But it comes at a random time after midnight

[spice grotto]

Hate the tag tho🫩😭 i get flashbacks

[spice grotto]

Utc?

[humble quiver]

Yes

[spice grotto]

I suppose

[humble quiver]

We literally talk about anything but maths in the server

[spice grotto]

Hm

[humble quiver]

I dont understand what’s so expensive about archers. I only have to invest in YSG for a legendary commander

Early game

[terse mason]

Yes and 5555 him minimum

[humble quiver]

What about 5515 and expert mid kvk?

[spice grotto]

But hes useful later on tho.

[terse mason]

And there are really no decent epics to pair him with so you'll have to 5511 thut

[spice grotto]

And the like swap event thingie

[terse mason]

Gl getting that, hella unlikely as low spenders

[humble quiver]

Not even Kusonoki?

[rose narwhal]

Issue is that it'll take u. Shit ton of investment to 5515 and expertise

[spice grotto]

Baibars

[humble quiver]

That’s a cav commander

[terse mason]

Trash

[rose narwhal]

For archers tho

[humble quiver]

How?

[terse mason]

[terse mason]

Trust me

[humble quiver]

You kinda gotta explain for me to believe you

[rose narwhal]

Kusunoki is squishy

[humble quiver]

His skills also give 15% defence

[dawn otter]

My friend couldn't get achilles from the event cause he was at tier 3 so kinda impossible, should he expertise Arthur?

[terse mason]

He js not really good

[rose narwhal]

Yes he can do Arthur Mina as a transition march if he has to

[humble quiver]

Tell me what’s not good about him then?

[spice grotto]

😔

[dawn otter]

He doesn't have mina he is full f2p

[spice grotto]

😪

[terse mason]

His skills

[humble quiver]

How?

[terse mason]

[rose narwhal]

Yeah well I have no idea what he can do then tbf

[humble quiver]

What skills are bad?

[dawn otter]

Maybe Arthur aeth in kvk 3?

[rose narwhal]

😭🙏

[spice grotto]

Is ur profile the girl from chainsaw man

[rose narwhal]

Does he have qsh?

[dawn otter]

Yes

[rose narwhal]

He can do Arthur QSH then I guess

Assuming he swapped someone for qsh

So he works on delta on the meantime

[rose narwhal]

It's from darling in the franxx

[dawn otter]

Worst ending I've ever seen

Gigantic robot

Boom

Dead

[rose narwhal]

[humble quiver]

I watched chainsaw man with my dad 💀😭

[dawn otter]

He has him 2 5

[terse mason]

Bro switched faster than

[dawn otter]

Is that kinda decent?

[rose narwhal]

5511? That'll do yeah

Keep in mind it's a transition march tho

I'm assuming he has no archer gear too

[rose narwhal]

Mhm but it's only for the server so doesn't count

[terse mason]

[stark apex]

What does killing people get me?

[rose narwhal]

Kill points

And trouble

If outside of kvk

[humble quiver]

So true 😭

[stark apex]

Cant i make them teleport away at some point? And plunder them?

[rose narwhal]

Yeah but the wall takes a lot to burn

And usually most people aren't on their own

And then u also take deads

Which isn't something u wanna go until kvk

[jaunty mirage]

can i upgrade any peacekeeping commanders or just sun aeth?

[rose narwhal]

Tbf they'll likely upgrade themselves as u do barbs

[spice grotto]

Dk that

[fickle ore]

Never been so embarrassed of my fandom💔🥀

[stark apex]

whats a dead

[rose narwhal]

When your troops die

[spice grotto]

🥲😪😭😭😭😭

[stark apex]

do i have to attack it multiple times for it to fully burn or js hope they dont fix it and if they do attack again

also is there any way to know if they have extra resources i can plunder? and if its a scout upgradte what level

[rose narwhal]

Pretty much hope they don't fix it but it takes a lot of time

I am not even sure about that I've never forcefully zeroed someone till they automatically tp tbf

[rose narwhal]

Ehhhh

I forgot the word fuck me

It's a research

[stark apex]

this? and what level

[tulip lintel]

Can someone send me some good chaining marches

Pls

[tender path]

Can this pairing work?

[rose narwhal]

Likely not

Please do NOT run that

[rose narwhal]

Yes and ion know the level bro

[rose narwhal]

Which kvk u on?

[stark apex]

kk, sry for all the questions

[rose narwhal]

Nah it's fine but the level is such a specific thing that I mean I js don't know lol

[tulip lintel]

I’m in soc

[tender path]

Any good pairings with Cyrus? I only got purple commanders and Thutmose

I’m quite a desperate man

[rose narwhal]

U can do ZL Shajar / Huo Hera / Richard YSG / CY someone else, someone else would likely know the 5 march setup but those 3 are as far as I go tbh past that no idea

[rose narwhal]

I don't think so tbh

Maybe Cyrus YSG but

[tender path]

I could get ysg, I can save up for him

Just gotta wait for kvk1

[rose narwhal]

What

How do u have Cyrus then

[tender path]

Huh

I got it from this

[rose narwhal]

Makes sense

[tender path]

@rose narwhal

Ye

[rose narwhal]

Restart

[tender path]

Huh

[rose narwhal]

If your main commander are Cyrus kusuunoki and u tell me u have to wait for KvK 1 to get ysg while you're in season of conquest that's most likely a restart situation

[tender path]

Oh no, those aren’t I have bai qi

I just want to use something for kvk 2 and kvk 1

I picked all kvk3 commanders and I won’t be able to use any of them

[rose narwhal]

Okay now I'm confused

But anyway

The only really viable archer march seems to be thutmose YSG

As long as ysg is expertised

But is it for like a different account or?

[tender path]

This is my main account. I just want a viable archer march with what I have lol

I didn’t expect it to be this serious

[rose narwhal]

Oh nah

I'm just challenged

Don't run that though it's gonna get touched very hard

Get qsh and do either qsh zl or qsh ysg otherwise it isn't worth it

[tender path]

Kk because I want to try out old commanders lol. Guess they aren’t viable after all

[rose narwhal]

Yeah they are not worth running nah

[tender path]

Ok

[cold sonnet]

When are the new commanders coming?

[rose narwhal]

We don't know just yet

[runic acorn]

Qualcuno del 3973?

[fickle ore]

Omni says 31st

[cold sonnet]

What type is next? Sorry been away from game for more than a year!

[fickle ore]

Inf

[cold sonnet]

Awesome

[halcyon silo]

Whens the next zenith of power? Trying to see when it is b4 our kvk 1

[rose narwhal]

Around march most likely maybe April

[long pasture]

For Lohar Trial in a 2 day kingdom should I be burning through my AP on the event using 3 marches and stuff

[mighty viper]

If you want, but it’s advisable to only use naturally occurring AP on the event

[indigo basalt]

Is Alexander worth getting?

[long pasture]

Ok

ty

[mighty viper]

Depends on how much you spend

[indigo basalt]

Im f2p

[mighty viper]

No he’s generally not

[indigo basalt]

Should I spend my ghs on any commander right now? Or keep running sun tzu /aeth

I have ysg but I dont know if I should invest in him or not

[mighty viper]

Keep doing what you’re doing and save the gh

[mighty viper]

Only if you can expertise him

[indigo basalt]

Okay oh also should I be heading for Liu che once kvk 3 comes around?

[mighty viper]

Yes for inf

[rose narwhal]

I would hold my horses

Depends on this new inf release

[mighty viper]

Yeah I’m really expecting only one good commander that would probably replace BQ not LC

[rose narwhal]

Tbh I don't think BQ is really replazable

Probably misspelt that

[mighty viper]

Nah

I see LC as more stable, could be wrong, we’ll see

[long pasture]

Is Boudica Prime YSG still viable

[rose narwhal]

LC is also 3 years old or so with no smite tree, although his skills do deal smite damage so he's eh

[rose narwhal]

No

[mighty viper]

No

[long pasture]

lol been too long then

I want to expertise YSG and still use him in SOC since im a f2p-low spender

what would be a better pair for YSG then

[rose narwhal]

QSH

[long pasture]

uhh

[mighty viper]

QSH

[long pasture]

whose that

[rose narwhal]

Qi Shin Huang or something

[long pasture]

lol

Ohh

ight

[rose narwhal]

New commander

[mighty viper]

Newest archer commander

[young kestrel]

Qin Shi Huang?

[long pasture]

btw is 3 farms reallyyyyyy neeededd. or can I just setle with one farm heh

[mighty viper]

If you farm 24/7 you’ll be fine

[rose narwhal]

Same thing

Do I look Chinese to you Mr

[long pasture]

ok sooo 2 farms then....

[young kestrel]

you look like an anime character

idk

i cant exactly meow at you to convey meaning

[mighty viper]

The less farms you have the more often you’ll have to refresh them

[fresh dust]

I'm about to start rise of kingdoms, what would be the best civilization for a beginner?

[mighty viper]

China

[fresh dust]

Can you tell me why?😓 thankyouu!!

[mighty viper]

Because you automatically unlock Sun Tzu the best epic commander

[fresh dust]

When do I change my civilization

[rose narwhal]

[mighty viper]

At ch 25 or the start of KVK1, whatever comes first

[fresh dust]

ok thank youu

[mighty viper]

You’re welcome

[rose narwhal]

I'm curious about this tho shouldn't they be switching from china at CH 25 once the upgrade starts regardless?

[long pasture]

for germany right

[rose narwhal]

At least for the first week if at least

[young kestrel]

they should

yea

tbh, switch from china to smth like germany asap

[mighty viper]

It’s usually recommended to have your unique unit from France/Germany rather than the archers that a F2P wouldn’t use

It’s a small difference but sometimes that’s what wins the battle

[rose narwhal]

I thought it was due to civ buff

[mighty viper]

Civ buffs help too

That healing buff from France is peak

[rose narwhal]

I suppose it's not worth it to use a civ swap to get the T4 and the china buffs that'd be a waste

[rose narwhal]

Ye precisely

[mighty viper]

Ye

[rose narwhal]

I mean, to me for the most part either stay china or go to France if fights come first cause the healing speed is so important

In case you're a big spender and u don't go France it won't even matter all that much when they switch

[mighty viper]

To an extent

One could start with Egypt and get sun the hard way and still do good as F2P it’s just a lot harder

[fresh dust]

is there anything specific that I should prioritize

[rose narwhal]

Why Egypt because of the 1.5 to research and building?

Keep in mind hard way doesn't really exist anymore since you're given an event that gives u all epics

[mighty viper]

Get a full T4 match by the start of KVk1, it’s around 200k troops

[mighty viper]

Was just an example lol

It’s still a newish civ that people tend to get ads about

[fresh dust]

whats t4 and kvk1

[rose narwhal]

Oh lmao

[mighty viper]

Level 4 troops, and Kingdom Vs kingdom

[true sorrel]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hvJYUB-Cgv5EajTU5GUid3n8fL2twX5fhZEBLsor2Mo/edit?usp=sharing

This will answer most of your questions

[fresh dust]

should I open the silver and gold frees chest

[rose narwhal]

Yes

But don't spend keys just yet

[mighty viper]

The free ones, sure

[rose narwhal]

More commanders will unlock later down the line

[mighty viper]

Tbh there’s not a big reason to save silvers, but definitely save gold keys

[rose narwhal]

Fair point

The drops don't change for silver ones

[fresh dust]

what do I do with him

[mighty viper]

Keep updating him

[fresh dust]

upgrading?

[mighty viper]

Yes, typo, sorry

[fresh dust]

Should I max him to lvl 5

[rose narwhal]

He should be level 60, so you can run him with aeth

[fresh dust]

Whats aeth again?😅

sorry for having. so many questions😓

[rose narwhal]

Aethelefald

[rose narwhal]

It's fine we were all there, no shame

[fresh dust]

what about his talents

is there a specific layout to follow

[rose narwhal]

Yup one sec

#1410506030970048655 has it

It's not loading for me tho

[fresh dust]

thiss?

[rose narwhal]

Yuh

[fresh dust]

should I complete skills or infantry first?

[rose narwhal]

I'd do skill first but I mean as long as u don't fight you'll be fine

As long as u don't fight for now*

[long pasture]

To get my 2nd farm into my 2day kingdom can I make a new character in a brand new kingdom and migrate it to my kingdom?

or do I need to wait 7 days when migration is opened in my kingdom

wait nvm they removed the beginner migration thingy..

[mighty viper]

You need to get the account to ch 16 and use a passport

[honest tinsel]

U need a 2025/26 starter guide

game may got a lot of in game helper but who really looks at them

[crisp pebble]

How do I find medium to high level caves?

[rose narwhal]

When you explore fog it'll say

You'll click on the cave and it'll say treasure level:medium high or low

Avoid the low lever caves do only mid and high

[crisp pebble]

In the guide it said to not scout low level caves

[crisp pebble]

Will the level be random?

[rose narwhal]

Correct

[rose narwhal]

What do you mean?

[crisp pebble]

When you scout a cave will there be a chance for high and medium level?

[rose narwhal]

U will know which level it is before u scout it

It'll tell u when u click on it

If that's what u mean

[crisp pebble]

So avoid looting it?

[rose narwhal]

If it's low avoid it

If it's high or medium go for it

[crisp pebble]

What do you mean by avoid?

Like not loot?

[rose narwhal]

Yes

[crisp pebble]

Ok

Thanks

A lot

[rose narwhal]

Low level caves = ❌
High and mid level caves =

[rose narwhal]

Yw

[crisp pebble]

👍

[torn night]

Should I expertise matilda? I have enough epic sculptures

[rose narwhal]

Is your main march expertise

[torn night]

well no but its legendary commanders so it doesn't really count

[rose narwhal]

Fair enough alright in that case yeah expertise Matilda

What you running tho out of curiosity

[torn night]

minamoto cao, i'll probably swap cao for ysg when the wheel comes

[rose narwhal]

Please 🙏

Or Baibars at least

[torn night]

dang is cao that bad?

[rose narwhal]

I suppose you'll expertise ysg

[rose narwhal]

Yes

[torn night]

I ditched sun tzu because it lowkey sucks

the equipment doesnt give it enough stats and its too squishy when my alliance did a ballfight test

[rose narwhal]

Have u fought anyone yet so far or

[rose narwhal]

Fair enough

I'd still encourage to go try it in a real murderball tho

[short oasis]

baibairs has 1000 damage for 5 targets

with no reduction

thats 5000 damage compared to 1400 on cao cao

[rose narwhal]

Sun will outperform cao cao by a long shot

[torn night]

yea ill do that once kvk 1 starts its still matchmaking

[rose narwhal]

Oki doki

[torn night]

sounds good

[short oasis]

though if you can exp ysg by kvk 1 mina/ysg is a beast

[rose narwhal]

Or do BB as sov is saying, really the only reason u use Sun is the AOE, the -10% damage and the rage gen, which is pretty huge for an "only"

[torn night]

i have 400 legendary sculptures right now so i don't think i'll expertise him when the wheel comes out

[crisp pebble]

Should I only focus on upgrading sun and aethel?

[short oasis]

how far from kvk?

[short oasis]

if u are f2p running inf yes

[rose narwhal]

How long do u think it'll take u to get the other 300?

[short oasis]

if you are running cavs then do baibars/sun

[crisp pebble]

Ok thanks

[torn night]

well it's matchmaking right now so idrk when its gonna start

[short oasis]

as good as sun/aeth

[short oasis]

Yeah then just run mina/bai

[torn night]

probably in a month, so maybe when the lost temple opens if that exists in kvk

[crisp pebble]

What talent should sun get first?

[torn night]

sounds good

[short oasis]

should be in pins

[torn night]

so do i exp baibars or matilda first

[rose narwhal]

Ziggurat yes

[crisp pebble]

Mind explaining what that is please?

I’m kind of a noob

[torn night]

ok

[rose narwhal]

https://discord.com/channels/474739462589382667/1431843509043990689

[short oasis]

@crisp pebble

[crisp pebble]

Ok

[short oasis]

just get baibars expertised first

fighting > farming