#☕〡general
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Frankly if any kingdom can’t sustain without following TOS they don’t deserve to sustain what they have
As it should
I don't understand why ppl are crying here
Zman everyone's using pilots these days let's be real
You pilot users made life a living hell for everyone
not necessarily
Ppl have jobs
wait I was trolling
“Everyone is jumping off cliffs these days” 
what happened
I have one too
Pilots can rest in piss now 🤣
I don't think I'm following your point here
where can I see
This is one of the greatest ever updates in the history of rok
Apart from commander resets
We'll have to see what happens after
Itll kill the game
bro I need another commander reset ngl
Whales fuming rn
Where are you seeing the news
Game can't exists without whale/krakens
It’s a joke “if all your friends (everyone) where jumping off a cliff would you jump too”. It’s a English saying for “just because everyone is doing something it’s not necessary safe or moral to do” 
3672 :
^
every viet/Korean kds:
Ah lol you're referring to that 😭 Imo tho, it's very different here, pilots are such a deep part of the game now that we'll have to see if it keeps going without them and how
Sil ahh gif
I don't think they'll follow up wih this lol
Just in pioneer kvk and then remove it lol
Lilith dug themselves a hole and they decided too late that they need to stop providing shovels 
😭
So whales will leave , idiot dkp reqs will come down but alliances will grow
I'm ok with it
Although I agree there's surely a way out of said hole, we'll have to wait and see
Whales leave Lilith makes no money
I mean m good w this xD
Not only whales will leave people who are busy as well will leave I mean
I'm lifeless
Oh there is, but the cure is definitely a bitter pill to swallow
Omg B seed kds will see an influx of players
And then they won't stay B seeds 😭
The more time ur account is online more speeds ur spending which means more money
It's okay we can find razh and zero him for this update that does it surely
Why would i buy speeds if I'm not gonna spend them all
I'm outside altar
Nuh uh, I'm leeching to high spending alliances to provide me the speeds 💔
No
Who asked the brainless r5s to set stupid kvk reqs bruh
This what i been saying
They'll probably reverse the change lol
Just like wedge 2.0 ngl
Probably something to see with matchmaking and autarch and what not, having to filter people and kick them out so you have a chance at being competitive
1093 officially gon be stronger than 2489 lmao
You all are missing the key point here,reduce those reqs and chill
We all thought the same about war frenzy and they're still testing btw
I feel like they should allow pilots back but only for 8 hours a day lmao
It still fuckes whales over but here we are
Their revenue will drop and they’ll panic
Nvm that kvk chad was in
I don't agree with this tbf, 30 mill kills is easy
Do it and log off, why do you want to play 24/7
Matchmaking still trash and autarch still limited
1$ below their average monthly revenues and they'll drop another kraken skin giving em 80% all damage and 500% healing speed 💔
Theorically we have it also
Ngl pilots make it indefinitely easier to make inane requirements, so hopefully leaders will wise up and make the appropriate adjustments
Cuz I wanna make 2B per kvk dawg 😭
Exactly bruh
Man I don't know my account was online for what 14 hours and I didn't get anything either idk
We got a mail
True cough velo velo
If they did this we have hope they ban rss sellers and buyers
Lilith didn't set those, tell the idiot "councils"
No the whales would have quit to another game
We dont have it trust me
If they do the game officially dies lmao
Hopefully this kills rss selling too
And then the game is fully gone at that point
Whales in this game feed their ego through kp, if they can’t get that they’ll move to another game
Honestly I js want em to give us more rss and keep sellers anyway
Just because a few kds at the top abuse it doesnt mean it would negatively affect the game overall
I don't want the game to die lmao
That's your personal thing bruh, tone down your expectations
Ever kd uses rs seller
95% of kingdoms have sellers
Oh no the game is enforcing its tos its gonna die!!!!
Even kvk1
A few? Ur delusional
Lmfao ur so wrong, every kd has sellers bro, EVERY
100% tbf
Nah I know a kingdom with no sellers
Literally all kds
Not that id buy ofc but 
Yes it's gonna die lmao, cuz they didn't introduce ways to make more rss hence people buy rss
I use t4s cuz I can't buy sadly but yeah
I literally have 30 farms because rss are hard to obtain
Have you heard of farm accounts
Wiiii wuuuu wiii wuuu tos police banging the door
They can spend 24/7 and farm those kills then
Yes I did, I have 30 of those lil bro
There's more snows in my kingdom than socks in my wardrobe
I don't want to spend my day logging into 30 farms
If 20 farms isnt enough to sustain your kvk needs then maybe make more
Nah that’d never happen
And transferring
Stop d riding the game yknow ppl aren’t logging into 50 farms 3x a day to do 4B kp
Or yknow. Buy bundles
But most players cbf logging into farms
Are we deadass
I have 5 and i cba logging in
Spend 2K for 1B RSS
💔
LMAO
If you can't afford the grind then dial down your kvk expectations
Yo dudes
Do u read properly? I said I have 30, and again, barely enough if I wanna do top tier kvks
Show your acc please
The empire is pretty chill
😂
And you're not biased as someone that plays on an account that isnt yours?
Rss bundles, u mean "how to get scammed 101"
Show me ur flux receipts too
Bundles would be viable if they were ultra buffed
30 should be more than enough to do top tier kvks, unless ofc ur expecting to perform on a kraken level, in which case, ur gonna also need to spend on a shit ton
I should see 10k spent to afford 50mil kills
The oasis store
Why? Do my account stats determine the validity of my argument
I'm intrigued to see ur acc pls
From rss on bundles alone
The thing is Lilith has been so incredibly lax in enforcing the rules that it’s basically been like the rules themselves don’t exist 
Exactly, also just ask pilots to do offseason grind if you wanna get 1 bill kp per kvk
Go all out during kvk
dude im dreading transferring rss from mine 😭
Tbh fair but that needs a bump too
Let’s see what IDG Capital says when the revenue drops because the game focuses on unemploymentmogging
i know i need to
Yeah bc no one in this game is doing 50mil+ kills on bundle rss😭😭😭
I've spent somewhere around 4-5k on the game. My account progress would be similar if I had stayed f2p
It's currently 23, 7 under construction so I hope it'll help me when I go do top kvks
Having shareholders is a cold world
Yeah but where they could counteract for sure

I have done more for less
Peasant
Meh, not bad
My hand
yea, im in A seed, 20 farms, barely log onto them, maybe 1-2 times a day, get 1-2b kp a kvk
It hurts seeing this
nub level rss 
You want to see the rss and speedups stats 
5K for this????
lol
Were u buying gold stars using gems?
Because people have been unfortunately conditioned by members of the community. for example earlier today I got told that Nickname’s recommendations for F2P to not use Thut/YSG are invalid because he’s a “deadweight” 
Have about 15b in unopened items
31b food
Why no kp then 
Do u fight in this game bro
I pay for entertainment not some arbitrary number to go up
Holy farmer
I'm about to go A seed, once 30 farms finished I'll js chill log in 2× a day and that's it
real
You already in an A seed fym
if ur just going to A seed, 23 is more than enough
Bro this is so cooked
He wants the norm to be 10 mil kills a kvk
Did u lie to me and bring me to a B seed
So he can rack up 6k days of speeds
But the whole game's entertainment is numbers going up, what do u enjoy other than kvk? Ceroli crisis? 💀💀💀
if ur going high A or imp, 20 should be fine for decent performance if ur gonna spend
No, high A seed, like silver imperium
You can easily do 30m without farms and upto 100m easily with 3-5

at that point the issue isnt number of farms, its investing in c tech
If you can't thats genuinely a skill issue
Bro I’m gonna go from like being able to do 2-3bil kp per kvk
To like
Not even 30mil kills
And im im c/d seed where we get 2 days of fighting a kvk
Cause of work
Have you done this how can u prove that
wtf
just buy popups, 1-2 MWs, and u should be chill
No I mean like high A, like 1.5T kp+
I didn't have farms for the first five years I played
"if ur homeless js buy a house" ahh 😭

No lol
mate, if ur going silver imp, ur gonna need to buy popups regardless 😭
Did bro say u can make 100m kills w 3 farms? 💔
And did you do 100mil kills with 3-5 farms?

Not really, some don't enforce it
hell thats bare min
😭😭😭
its not about enforcement 
its about not getting garbage trades
I haven't hit it yet, but with 5 farms I got close to it, that kvk i used 20b rss and ended kvk with more rss than I entered with
Don't forget the "u can make 100m kills using 3 farms"
I can probably still do a 1:1.15 without pop ups
Tbh if what nick is saying was true sellers wouldn't be a thing not so massively at least, the existence of them is proof enough that that's js not true
Ur getting 20b rss with 5 farms?

1-2 b per account per month and we skip
main point ur missing is ur making these farms so you can fight longer, the mental strain of having a kraken train ran on your marches every time u go fight is gonna make u stop rly fast if u come back with ass trades every time u leave ur city
I mean... If u farm for a year yeah
How many times do u login per day
If I go to the office, twice. If I work from home, whenever my troops return
Twice only awfully low to get 2b a month on one no?
True, maybe with tons of rss it won't matter much for me, or I js crash out and use 3 marches 😭😭😭😭😭
thats bs, thats like 66m rss on a single farm 
I have 5-8m in ap potions I'd like to use within a year
1B kp a year, tracks
Bro u can’t get 1B of food gathered in a month how are u doing2B
My Z5 experience right after the Japanese went to sleep 💔
Not all rss comes from gathering 
Touched u
I get 400m+ rss monthly from each farm, and only got 1.2b+ rss (didn't count food, wood, stone, gold) 💀
Harder in pass 7 pls
Trust me “I know a guy” who farms 5x a day he does 1B food/month
I can't wait
as someone with 20 farms, it still gets rly annoying, got like 50b rss total across all my accounts rn, its still not fun, idk what id be doing without popups
😂 hate getting Korean kd ect having different timezones, especially with different uptimes 😭
Being able to get to rss reduction tech effectively doubles your rss
I crashed out in like 6 hours and went on a long walk lmao
F that lol
that is true

usually my top prio
😭😭
Come fight us in altars
i think i have the first one max and the second at 7/10 rn
Dont duck
Fr man but besides that we had 20 people online throughout all our camp anyway 😭
Bro we got fucked
I'll be happy with js 1.7B per kvk, it'll be awesome, or I js field half T4 altho idk how t4 will do actually, never fielded 50/50 in forever lmao
😭
We actually got fucked
In at the point where im passing on it because I don't get to use as much rss as I farm
No we're easy kp
Fair enough ig 😭
1.7b kp? should be doable as long as ur kds field isnt ass
I run full t4s
T4s 
trading slightly positive overall, 20-30 farms is more than enough
Hard to do much with em 
Our camp field was horrendous pookie
True, thinking about it FURIOUS does NUMBERS, with just t4 the mf 💀
I don’t want t4 on kill board pls no
Back in the day I used to run cheese t1 marches
Well i cba logging into farms
Huh 💀
same with mine in z5, at least compared to enemy field
We still have KL and pass7
Before cutting edge they were disgusting
I used them fine
1B? Let's hope I even hit 800m this kvk
If our field respawns we'll be fine but if not ehhhh
😭
My delusional ahh was hoping 1.2B
Yeah
🥀
U guys aren't fighting us why u scared
What
Oh dear
We're not?
Take mine
i havent had that low kp gain in a kvk since that time fighting ended in z5 
More cavs than inf, I hate u

T5 siege
I'ma hold ur hand when I say this, our z5 sucks 💔
why tf do u have so many t4s?
If u lose against water bro 💀
i feel ya, z5s can be so ass
wtfthe emojis are Evolving
I never put t5 in rally/garrison
Save some of the speeds he has for zenith 😂

Thats crazy
I'll quit
🥀 hes got 7k universals, bro doesnt need to save shi
Can get away with a lot of things in low seed
pretty sure hes in D seed too, so hell be fine
Water did very well bro ngl I'm not gonna say we won't lose because they did give wind a very fun Z5 so we'll leave it to uptime and downtime
1885-2737 last kvk against us in KL in a 3v2 and they gave up lmfao
Idk how you stay positive on speeds I can’t survive in high B even 😂
😭
I had a fever, woke up 4 morning to them nowhere in KL 😭😭😭
Yeah they surprised me bro
unless some dw has been saving since the fcking big bang
2544 are so bad
excuses
If it comes down to it I'll tank for my kd but I usually tp right to the front so I can refresh more often, that's 80% of it
Makes sense, ride or die for me no choice
should we downvote pilot related suggestions?
who in their right mind goes for a 3v1?


go to sleep
What the fuck
before you go
U don't js brainlessly downvote, gotta read into it first lmao
wanna hear the scripture of our lord and savior artemisia?
It's 7 morning for me I wanna sleep
Why are u awake
I'm wondering the same thing
Damn i feel u bro
6:45 n rolling
7:45 here I'm in between Raz and snow what a fantastic idea for a Saturday night
👶 🛢️
Wink
Nah, im more of a Zeno enthusiast
Skill issue Ong
🥀 i worry for u sometimes
The fuck does this mean 😭
Baby oil?
OOOOOOO
I hate pilots, sure game will die without them but offseason grind is much more affected in piloting while piloting through fighting is unfair in of itself because of numbers, also wouldn't also care about fights not being more than 24 hours
Makes senseeeeeee
My schedule is cooked bro
We know ur Gae and we support u
My life is cooked too
baby blue barrel
i agree with u
Yes, but why the ss?
I ain't saying I love piloting, but they should maybe add a vote for piloting in kvks, or allow piloting for 8 ish hours a day so krakens don't quit, otherwise game is dead
Thanks
Welp im off
Sleep beckons me, and I shan’t keep her waiting for any longer
Me and void going to sleep
Together?
Tis the only way my friend
Yes
We can put u in between
Sandwiched
Like oreo yk
Yessir thank you for your kindness sir I will serve you well
Sleep well u 2 cities
Cuties

NO
NO ITS NOT

I saw the name sov and something about a strap and void before I am afraid for my life in these moments
no more piloting 
your free trial card has been expired ahhh come of age
According to some in #1345010805388869632 this will cause all whales to quit 
sureeee 😂
If that happens Lilith will piss in their pants as their revenue will die
its only a problem because its required to have pilots
because everyone buys them
“If we ban pilots whales will have no reason to spend”
they just being dramatic
Ikr?
well i got my popcorn rdy
Same 
34b KP a kvk has gotten out of hand either way in my opinion
nerfing playtime doesnt sound to bad
I mean this can help game being less competitive as there won't be 24 hours long pilot fights anymore
me downvoting both 
game just feels more like a buisness nowadays where people give their accounts to employees and such
just to keep your company 24/7 running
I made this same argument in a suggestion, was not well received 
I hope in coming years rok becomes more friendly 
If it's the other way around it's time to quit
Preach
Ngl I was hoping to do a restart project sometime next year. Spend a little too. But if things keep going the way they’ve been going it’s just not a smart investment
And they did it quite right like i understand you can't chain for hours and stuff as you have to jobs and stuff. Off season pilots aren't that much worse they can be helpful. Just the kvk pilots were on the worse side and they did it right way
What's the problem to these whales idk
You still have off season pilots to spend on
Just don't ruin the kvk with piloting thing
Yup let's see if they do this damn right and go the right way
Even then it may just be too little too late 
If they cant play without breaking tos then good riddance
We are waiting for years can wait one or two more 
(But i seriously can't)
Kvk pilots are worse
And who knows they got this idea while reading our rok chats (it isn't WhatsApp where our chats are encrypted, well the fact that WhatsApp isn't encrypted too) 
If you want to experiment sure you can
don't understand why people would be so sure that the game will die because pilots are not here
I don't think so, off season pilots are still there. They are just telling to do the fighting yourself
What's wrong in that
oh naur
Hi everyone
Discord is more encrypted than any META app
And then there is teleg6
I’m gonna type in #do․not․type․here
I wouldn't mind offseason pilots tbh, but piloting in kvk fights is very unfair
Rok chats ......

In game

meanwhile I can easily extract images out of nowhere without saving it
Same 
Let’s all race to see who types there faster.
sure, let me hire a pilot to do it for me
my wings are broken, what can I do doc
Redeem credits
Where's the link
how there's 6 noobs cooked
I'm a bot

Bot bot bot
fossen 
??
actually where is this piloting email from
from official mail or lilith
I received one as well
I think it's only available for players who registered or about to register
Me neither
cause you aint got an acc
Ye
Guys if I give my account to someone but that guy won't fight he will just do baulur for example
Can I get ban ?

yes
Yeah
I think so the mail say this
account sharing is against the ToS
as if those are enforced in that regard
well we will see if they actually gonna stick to it and enforce it in a proper kvk
im tos abiding
no
Why not
You should watch jjk
you should drink less
Didn't drink all week
and last week?
That was last week
its wednesday that is not an achievement 
irl you can call a drone strike so siege would win


Good 
jest ktos pl
anyway rok will die im free
lets see if they actually go through with it lol or if the whales complaints will stop it
they wont
it'd kill the entire top end and we'd never see big imp fights again
which isnt good for lilith
cause less money
i think they just wanna see how many things they can flag
and then make their decision off that
i mean thats a bit exxagerated, theres still a good amount of people that play a lot in imps, atleast in 93
its still a large anount of the accs throughout the kvk using pilots
includes chainers
the amount that'd get flagged from chaining and offseason maintence would be interesting
it'd still be enough to flag
off season apparently doesnt count
as its searching for the full duration
if people getting flagged they should stop piloting lol
tbh its probably best if the game dies
the current fighting meta is so ass
i click back and fourth and completley kill how commanders work 🔥
yeah, standing on a single spot with all your marches is so much more fun
need them to have some server lag on at all times so marches dont die as fast and people might be more willing to push harder again
atleast it doesnt nuke my marches cause the game stuttered
it aint any more fun to play tho 
What's official rok tools
not overly cause ur never meant to have everyone stacking
stacking and back and fourth are equally as gay
just i can bitch more about back and fourth cause entire kds do it
i wonder who

always funny seeing pilots complain abt our playstyle
gave me a few good laughs last KL seeing some cry in streamers chats
I <3 the current meta
In fact I <4 it
Bc 4 is greater than 3
i mean its gay as
i just make it so no one cycles skills
and we all get no kp
10/10
ive been playing tomadachi life
im chilling

Official statistics website for the game
i need to be like phil and run more seige
letting seige fire at gay back and fourth is peak gameplay
Pew pew 
Can I have link inside dm
what happen to da dawg
RoK Toolkit
Thx
You’re welcome
@woven oasis tbh the big question is how many pilots from different regions and ips can you have before it flags you
bro is stuck
cute doggo
nah that'd require me to be piloting
and i just play tomadachi life sir
hi kakashi
leo play tomadachi life
nice rage bait
truthfully, I forgot that character, sorry 
I am scared for archer release now


Leo Prime
He is my protector
I want tomoe prime 
Hey guys. Any restart in july? If yes pls dm
where is that
no
i've visited tho
as any good aussie does
are there any malls?
indonesia
owh
Get those cute puppets
I still didn't get my wedge stuff back why
My lk ends in 2 days, is that the reason
Why new update not working?
I was told 9utc, it is not out at 9utc
relog though
when will the update for wedge come?
12min ago
Classic Lilith always lying about their deadlines

hahahah
The dev probably went for a 💩 and forgot to push the code
i guess
imagine they wouldnt communicate to people who spent 10s of thousands of dollars
they wouldn't even bother communicating people who are f2p
we only have community supporters poppin in chat every 2 weeks


the goats

Do japanese server has different discord? Where can i find a restart project for japanese server
Yes
when we getting the wedge 2 stuff fixed
Will we get the transformation stones we used before this time?
11UTC
i see..
nope only after uupdate
I mean, is there compensation?
....
Yeah the stones used to convert wedge 1 to wedge 2 will be giving back
yea
And if you bought bundle for it then you get a flux back worth the bundle cost i thought
Yeah but only conversion stones not transmutation stones

Was this announced?
yea
If this happens that would be fair
chadski mentioned in his vid
Also gem refunds for the guys that picked up stones from the shop
Sweet. Everyone made whole
Yes
I didn't do anything because im lazy, it worked out for me
same here 😂
I mean i hope that a lot of people didnt
If you werent in kvk then it doesnt really make sense to insta covert
Convert*
if you bought bundle during it, the conversion stones will be reduced too
but it's still unconfirmed what will be reverted anyways
Yes it will
They said it
Watch chadski’s vid man
If you bought for example 10 dollar one you get a 10 dollar flux back
maybe liliths way of saying
sorry whales, here have your flux back
we still ban pilots

...
I mean sure, you get them back during between that specific time frame or date
i mean i bought them before the update bcs i knew the update would come so idk how they gonna do that
Any news about new archer ?
Oh long time no see alpha
guys did the rok guide domain get bought out?
it says its a gambling site now
dewa39 or smth
Bruh wat
or just outdated
Wat is rok guide?
@raw hollow


You're a new player aren't you
its literally where rok posts info about character stuff
no lmao
im probs more vet than u i just joined back to this server
u have finished ceroli?
i dont play the game anymore
Which website do you mean then lmao
rokguide???
i looked up rokguide and found a normal looking website
send a photo then
No update for wedge formation?
and im obviously not gonna send it here cos that would violate the rule
a lot of people lol well at least a lot of people used to
the offical is shut down
damn i rlly wish i could tag a lilith cm
I mean in my 5 years or so I never used it
ok sure then
its not a question on who uses it but rrather to confirm that its gone
so maybe try not to be so definite in ur judgement lol
Is it a lilith website?
yes
No

btch
u have finished ceroli?
I haven't
ive never used it before so idk
carry my farm pls

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3jCAyPai2Y&list=RDg3jCAyPai2Y&start_radio=1
Pilots when they find out their service becomes bannable 🙂
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Eh, we have yet to see the long term impacts
The average pilot will be fine

Stellen is here
He will grow up so he will bite alpha
@raw hollow okay I dont think u will mind
🥹🙏
Eh?
@celest mountain hop on nte
Holy even without rt tis game looks insane
bro it is 11 am

wtf
There should be more arab commanders
new archer works on basic attacks
Pmo
is that the real stuff?
rip QSH combo
Get rekt
WHAT is this design bruh
whose making ts
Made my guy fat af with no drip
justice for my boy arslan
Why is baybars the Arabian commander when he isn't even arab
You is gay
well we will see how tests go ig
we got the skills or?
check tkc
is it single target
Shajar 2.0?
only valid skill i see that works with QSH
its an amazing swarmer though
Bro there's literally only saladin
they obviously weren’t going to release another commander that compliments qsh
but this one looks so ass
gives me shajar vibes
You look ass
ik, which is why i’m going to invest in GG instead
Looks fire NGL
hey now , shajar is great
Uhh
altar doesnt count and chaining
oh then nvm
Him with qsh 😫
new garrisson compliments cho, great addition
Yes
Archer garrison finally viable again
new open field guy just looks like someone spamming debuffs
Yeah. It will be good in canyon
i mean if it cares abt debuffs maybe some synergy with hermann ig but idk
wait for the tests
Plus allot of counter attack
Obviously
@celest mountain the director stole my name
lilith istg is ragebaiting archers again

Slow
not with all skills dummo
Aint no way this Guy better them Qsh
I mean it's healing again
Gg cav

calm down satan
we don’t need commanders as good as qsh anytime soon
For leadership release would be nice
Busted leadership
i need honda to be meta again
Who are we supposed to pair this new guy with
Herman ig
I was thinking the same
It’s Soild for ur 7th March I suppose just debuff
Very good for chaining
I really hope he s not a flop like Shajar
🫣
…..
+1
cyruss 
im skipping just for the skills tbh
Lowkey would be decent 😭
Hold on.from what I understand,he should be able to become an aoe by debuffing a lot with Herman
Yeah he is best with herman
new archer does some wacky QSH type damage though
Hold on he might be op with Herman

Check third skill
the indo or the turk?
we refer to nationality to prevent butchering names
Field commander might be op with Herman Prime
The new field archer
Single target tho it’ll just be a fast debuff march
His third skill deals aoe every 5 debuffs
I might be wrong
This guy is better GG
So excuse me
I think it’s just his 100 poison😭
what we expect
I hope this guy isn’t good with Shajar cz who the he’ll invested in Shajar anyway
new open fioeld not chinese
Make it work with Herman 😭
Double single target archers cooked boss
Was hoping to use them with zhu😭
Yeah
they dont want to kill old commander so fast seems like they still care
someone getting second chances
i see a way for him to work with QSH though
hermann on the aoo boss is hillarously good
so qsh tsg bnew archer ling shajar herman
Opinion on the archer coms? Am I gonna get any of the new or go qsh / ysg 😭
They seem ass
wait wait wait
or maybe even better for canon u can use new archer shajar and it is crazy tank
hermann prime primary with cage of thorns and this guy secondary
antoswarm?
sounds broken
how
u cant swarm it
no it is anti swarm
bro did u read it
yeah
he has no aoe and no counterattack
@turbid dust
choe has 50% counter dmg and the mean hero deals insane dmg to the rally if u going to swarm it














