#Very important information. 1

119 messages · Page 1 of 1 (latest)

meager vale
#

DISCLAIMER!!!:
Yea I'm data mining the game but please don't ban me (I like all your games and I would be really sad if I will be banned on the server(((), This post is made with good purposes and I didn't mean to insult anyone, but the truth has to be told.

Hello. I created this post to open everyone's eyes to the problems that have long existed in the game and what can you do to fix it. So, let's begin.
First, let's look at the chronology of the game. Personally, I divide the game into four different periods. Three, if I can't get developers' attention (which is what I want to do).

Alpha SN: 2018 - 2020.

At that time, I didn't know about the game yet. But what I can say is that it was incredibly fun. At that time, there was only one child that could be customized, as well as one neighbor. It was the most fun period of the game's existence. There were no cheaters and very few toxic players (at least, I assume there were).

SN: 2020 - Q4 2023.

The game was in its prime. I joined in the middle of this period (2021-2022), and it was fun as hell!!!
Most of the updates happened at that time. They added classes for children and 5 neighbors!
They added 4 maps, as well as my favorite MAP EDITOR!!!
They added brawls. Cheaters and toxic players started to appear.(I hate both)
But all the fun came to an end, and a fateful period began:

SN 2: Q4 2023 - XXXX

Absolute doggy water!
added unbalanced classes for children and neighbors. One isn't even a child and won't let you play, and the other isn't a neighbor and won't let you play either!!! Online players have dropped to a staggering 146 (135 by moment I post).
The game has become boring and disappointing. People just bully each other. There are now an absurd number of cheaters and toxic players!
read the other parts in replies! I think they're out by the moment you read this. there's a lot to read, don't haste!

#

Very important information. 1.1
(read the disclamer once again!!!)
The most upsetting thing (which is why I made the disclaimer) is that Quentin wasn't even voiced by a human! All of his lines in the game files are labeled like this: (what Quentin says)-ogg-jovan. I searched for websites with this name and found Jovan.ai! And there is literally a text-to-speech option there! I don't think it's the same with the taxidermist, but in the phrase “I see you!” in some audio files, you can hear “I cry you.” Plus, he's not even a neighbor! Just a random unc. There is a lot of unused content in the files. There is even a rope from alpha 1.5 (at least its game object). There is a Driveable car game object (I don't know why i listed it). There is also a lot of debris that could be added to the editor.
Now, let's discuss the next period. We will now discuss what i think most will want want. So, while I was writing this post, I conducted a kind of research (to be honest, it's not really research at all ))) ) to understand what players want. So, after counting, I can say that there are 25 posts with the word “update” and 23 with the word “style.” Considering this, you could at least make a minor update to return the game to the style of the first one and delete Quentin and Taxedermist. ADD AN ANTI-CHEAT!!! Make it so you can team up in the lobby, before starting. traps and barricades will be removed. At least add a drag-and-drop feature in editor! (come on, you even have a sound effect for that!). come read the next part!

wowo.png
#

Very important information. 1.2
(There will be a lot of text now.) But for a major update, you could add Alpha Kid back for those who like hardcore gameplay without any abilities. Add at least one more new map that is not the neighbor's house (like the circus map). You could add a summer camp like the one in the update image with perks and other features. Add the GameObjects I listed earlier(rope, studio lights). And improve the editor by removing construction restrictions. Make it more like the one in Unreal Engine (but still understandable), with ability your models, audio, and code. make it so we can add water (perfect for the camp map!), and also add it to the editor with a tap and drain that will work with electricity. Remove the fence and make it so that you can create your own that cannot be climbed over. Also add a terraforming mode. Revamp the characters. For example, add another ability to the Scout, such as a first aid bandage with a recharge time of 30-70 seconds that heals half of the health if it is less than half and completely if it is more than half, and also make it so that he can give them to others (for one use). Add an ability to the bagger so that he can switch to close combat (fists) after milk. But the effect will be shorter for him (15 seconds > 10 seconds or less).
I know it's hell of a lot, and most of it is just what I want. But I know that others might want it too. Although after what happened, seeing any update is like god's blessing. come read the next part!

#

Very important information. 1.
As I understand, your team is quite small, but you have a lot of projects. In the Russian part of the community, there is a theory that when you finish the most updated projects at the moment: Sand and HN3, then you will make an update. But with each passing month, I realize that we are approaching the point of no return, and when we reach it, it will be too late to do anything! That's why I think the game needs an update! Or you can just say that the project has been abandoned so that we all understand and realize that it's over.
Actually, if you listen to these words, the Fourth Period will become real, and I will even give you something like a prediction! And so it will appear:

SN 3: 202X - XXXX

New map: Summer Camp. The community has noticed that you have done something with the game, and they thank you. A rope will be added, which can now be used on all new and old maps. You can climb on it and hang on it by hooking onto the end. Now the scout and/or bagger will have new abilities (listed in the previous parts). One will carry a bandage (scout), and bagger, after drinking milk can switch to close combat with his fists, but the effect of milk will be shorter for him. The editor will be finished (as I said in last part), and the past will be forgotten like a bad dream, but the community is unlikely to recover completely. Anti-cheat will be added. Most importantly, a child from the alpha version will be added without abilities and with double XP , Quentin and the taxidermist will be removed, traps and barricades will be removed and old style is brought back so everyone will be happy.
I beg you that you make sure at least one of the developers sees this. If they see it, then that will already be an achievement, and if they do at least something with the game, then my goal will be accomplished. Bye for now!

#

HELL YEAH THAT'S A LOT TO READ I KNOW BUT atleast it's true, right?..

#

I think if I'll show my keyboard there will be bloodstains, my fingers really in pain rn...

dry blaze
#

bro what the hell

#

I think this is your college essay

#

but alright this is nice

meager vale
dry blaze
meager vale
#

I want them to do at least anything. if you suffer about anything there's more chance it comes true, I think.

#

and I use DeepL translator to translate Russian > English. I know English enough to at least keep a normal conversation but I don't know English this good to write all THAT!

#

but I still do some mistakes

dry blaze
#

Devs don't listen anymore

#

It will remain on their end but no actual developer will read it

#

They've been very busy lately

meager vale
#

let's wait and see but it think they would likely not read this.

dry blaze
#

no bro you gotta let go

#

They read nothing

meager vale
#

ok but I still will check till Christmas. I'm just interested to see. Hope at least that theory Russian community made is true...

velvet magnet
#

Wow, great summary, well done!

#

And unfortunately, there's a good chance that the developers will continue to ignore community messages, even if those messages are valid.

#

And what I really don't understand is the lack of communication for the past two years. Why are they doing this? I don't think we'll ever get an answer, lol.

meager vale
# velvet magnet Wow, great summary, well done!

Thanks. It's very strange that I'm still not asleep because i live in GMT 3+ and its 1:24 a.m. but it's predictable that I don't want to because by the time I wrote all that it was 2 a.m. Yes my sleep schedule is hecked up!

meager vale
meager vale
silent kestrel
#

Why would they remove content from the game

#

Just ask for a nerf

meager vale
# silent kestrel Why would you want them to delete Quinten and Otto

They're unbalanced. Even if they would nerf them they will still be the same. They're annoying. They won't let you play at all! Taxidermist + quentin is a catastrophe! Imagine. Quentin comes, turns in the taxidermist, kills 4, then you come as inventor, you have milk, you use it and practically kill the neighbour, he turns into quentin and uses his dash ability to run away, then he chases you and shoots you until you are DEAD! And yeah this real happened. So, and how you want to nerf all THAT? And one isn't even a child! It's not even plot-explained why he's in their team! If I was one of the developers I just would delete him at any cost. Even if I'm going to be fired. And as i listed, that "content" is going to be replaces with bigger and newer one.

glad ivy
#

I dont think that they should delete quenton and otto, but maybe give them a whole rework. Keep the dash and gun, but for quenton, remove the hot news ability and replace it with the camera thing he has in hn2. He presses the ability to switch what hes holding to a camera. He can then place that camera anywhere he needs. When he presses the ability again, he will hold his thing from hn2 where he can view the camera he placed. (Can only place one camera, and doesnt stack with other quentons) reduce quentons speed from 4.9 to 4.4. Either reduce his speed or reduce his stamina majorly.
Otto: slightly increase his speed. Rework his gun to not be able to stun, but slows down kids for ¼ of a second. Reduce his cooldown of shooting the gun to ½ a second, increase his ammo from 4 to 8, and half his damage from the gun. Increase his health, and buff the range he can use lights and gates and doors with his sonar.

This is all just an idea and can be changed

silent kestrel
#

Yeah I think a rework would be more in order

#

Rather than deletion

meager vale
winter halo
#

But if u think that taxidermist is good its actually a skill issue ngl

meager vale
#

I don't think they're nerf-able. As someone that at least did something with the game files. Quentin has crazy stamina regen speed that makes him throw items more frequent! One has a rifle that can one shot you! As i think They're a disgrace! I hate them because the update they're came in was the last one and also ruined the game! They've not even voiced by a human! I saw it in the game files! As I think, they're a total loss of time! The first thing I tried to do is remove him from the game for me at least, so I couldn't see him! At least they can make it so we know it's the end so someone didn't started to do hopium SN images.

meager vale
# glad ivy I dont think that they should delete quenton and otto, but maybe give them a who...

I just read that more accurate and for otto it will only make him stronger. At least you could easily kill him but this is makes him only more unbalanced. The camera thing is good but i think it needs to have a cooldown. Like if you watch it to long it overheats and stops working for 10 secs. But as I said earlier, i don't think they're supposed to be in the game! I think at this point I will look dumb and stubborn by only saying that they need to be deleted. Because I am very angry about the game in the moment. So this is one and only method of me expressing that kind of emotions right now.

glad ivy
meager vale
sinful light
dry blaze
#

He gets a huge advantage over you also because of the traps and the easy shortcuts

silent kestrel
#

Otto players after spam pumping the entire lobby

dry blaze
#

He can leap

#

And there's a way to spam croak

#

Infinitely

silent kestrel
#

Sounds like a skill issue tbh

dry blaze
silent kestrel
#

My bad my bad

dry blaze
#

so am I basically not allowed to share my input

silent kestrel
#

My bad i was just baiting

#

Guest is annoying to play against lowkey

dry blaze
#

Rage baiting in a threads channel 💔

dry blaze
#

Spam ability equals win

sinful light
#

I really doubt that the SN Devs even touched the game this year. they are really working hard on that "SAND" game. i guess within a few years, they will shut down the servers.

dry blaze
lusty star
meager vale
#

Also in File named Mapeditor_assets_all.bundle some content that is not in the editor. in my opinion, they have more powerful version of the editor that allows to make maps like the fast game ones. Yes I know, sounds crazy, but why then they have Gameobjects named house far in the file of the map editor, that is made "only" for players? their models are those cardboard houses that you see in the far.

#

Also trying to delete the fence in the editor right now

#

by deleting game objects

glad ivy
#

There should be more organisation and more things in the editor

meager vale
#

I think there surely will be some debris

#

like stones in the sircus map

glad ivy
#

Im the next update there should be (by next update i mean next lifetime)

meager vale
#

Nothing new (I dunno can I use word new in sentence about SN) But there is some things from the fast game maps like Special turning door for the neighbor that looks like a locker with a vinyl on it. Some Carpets for stairs and debris of broken windows and wall. did not expect to see WALLS' debris. maybe from the snow thief event?

#

Also now I'm trying out to see can I delete the walls in editor.

#

oops. I think the game didn't like it....

image.png
#

file check then...

#

but I still think they have better editor

sinful light
meager vale
#

yea

#

will try out code soon

sinful light
#

Cheaters can literally cheat using that tool, anticheat is non-existent in this game

meager vale
#

yea. i know but I didn't

#

I just tried to do some crazy stuff. the latest one is a try to make that i can spin my camera 360 in up and down

#

and this is jeff. (I'm not crazy)

20250925141253_1.jpg
#

atleast no one saw that

#

only me

meager vale
# sinful light Cheaters can literally cheat using that tool, anticheat is non-existent in this ...

Im not cheating but I want to make my own game mode and then ask project AR to add it. There will be day/night cycle so in the day neighbor are children and in the night they're neighbors. Neighbors need to catch all the children and children need to dispose of the neighbors or open the basement to win. Also room mechanic like you have your room and no one can enter it if not invited. neighbors can. but children not. Secret neighbor but more based on communication between the players.

meager vale
sinful light
sinful light
meager vale
#

yea

#

no one sees that

#

i won't scare people

#

Also made a little mod (if you can call it like that) for some guys that had idea of hide and seek mode. But strictly said them that they need to delete it and if I see them with that in fast game that I'm going to knock them out all the match

#

The game became boring for me so I started using uabe.

#

Like a have 700 hours on my dad's acc (didn't have mine when i was in that age) And 400 on mine.

#

also want to make a mod that allows terraforming. add your own code, models and paints. (don't know is that possible or not but I'll try !nickyshrug ). Basically make it so it has functionality of a game editor. Because the only dream that I have is to try to make a round room! This will be awesome! So it adds all the functionality I listed. The only problem I have right now that I don't know how to code on C#. I coded on C++ a little. But I think I can learn it. I'm Capable! at least, I think so.

#

Looked at my previous posts... Cringe! pure Cringe! but yes, by the time I wrote it I was like five years younger! Just deleted them. That was.... a LOT of info I wrote there. If you tried to print it it will surely take at least 1 A4 paper sheet. and you would need to write the letters with size of eight pixels!

#

Also I might have bad English because I'm from Belarus. and we speak Russian. And i'ts strange to think we eat only potatoes!

meager vale
meager vale
#

Downloaded all basic skin textures right now. lookin' creepy!

Basic_Basic_Texture-CAB-2a98d5e0867c5d4bdaa06957397afb2e-9158531254975584955.png
sinful light
glad ivy
meager vale
#

Got all of em'! I know some textures aren't right like leader's and baggers legs. That's because When I used UABE some textures broke on the way to the export. I'll send the example.

image.png Leader_TORSO_Basic_Normal-CAB-2a98d5e0867c5d4bdaa06957397afb2e-8861091341077415046.png
#

at least they're easily customizable! Basically I can get any skins from any season pack! I just need to export their model and textures and It's all. Ill try to make mine skins. just need to know the parts season!

image.png
meager vale
#

doing a rig right now. should i do the face?

sinful light
#

Wow

#

it looks extremely hard mate 😮

meager vale
#

ill send an image tomorrow (Remember I have GMT 3+ so it will be at night)

#

I parented it. but still gloves and other things have problems deforming

image.png
meager vale
#

I will make an absolute CINEMA! Just give me some time. I started today and worked on that rig at least for 6 hours. There is much progress done already! I know the shoulderpads are broken, dont know how to fix them yet.

untitled.png
dry blaze
#

this is much more presentable and bold
(me)

19a6f8b20a258-screenshotUrl3.jpg
#

i have now

#

made an absolutely cinematic picture of myself

meager vale
#

Got the eyes! and apparently, the eyebrows too! (I think she's the neighbor!). I think I'll make the mouth soon.

image.png image.png image.png
meager vale