Return the old style of Secret Neighbour and remove traps& barricades.

[gray vigil]

Hello, returning player from 2021. When I played them, the game used to be fun and simple. But now you can't open most of the chests without crowbar and step on bear traps almost all the time. I believe it is very annoying at least for me. I suggest removing the barricades and making the traps less frequent
As of the style. I suggest you merge both styles and let players choose which one they prefer.
I want to believe that the game could improve, but I get annoyed when playing instead of enjoying it like I used to do.
If things change, I would be more than happy to play again.

[onyx swift]

NO way

This is mad

Already so many threads about art style change

No matter what they aren't gonna listen for long periods of time

You're better off locking this mate

There other posts that are way popular and original

[crimson sail]

I think they should reduce the traps; I see them in ridiculous places. They should bring back the old style. The hn2 art style is terrible. This game was made for the hn1 style, but they brought a terrible game like hn2 here. Let me give an example with the toy gun. The toy gun in the hn1 style looked more like a toy. The hn2 style looks like a real gun, which is also bad. And the bear traps are bad too. The bear traps in the hn1 style had teeth, but there's nothing like that in hn2. That's another bad aspect. There are many more things, but if I write them all here, it will never end.

[onyx swift]

skill issue?

[crimson sail]

?

[quartz inlet]

Bro is asking for features to be removed from the game instead of wanting to improve or add things 💀🙏

Hello Neighbor 2 has a gorgeous art style, but its integration into SN is poorly done, that's all

What you want is just to go back to an older version of the game, not for it to improve

[gray vigil]

I want to reduce the traps. Isn't that an improvement?

And I want the devs to give the option for players to choose which art style they want to see like texture packs in Minecraft

There can be even a custom made ones. For example fan made art styles.

[gray vigil]

I can always do it yk.

[quartz inlet]

I said that improvement is a good thing, so yes, but your feedback just means you wanted the game to regress even more lol

[gray vigil]

What I am trying to say is that players should have option to decide which art style they prefer

In Minecraft they still let us have the old textures before 1.14

[quartz inlet]

Bro, get back to reality lol

[gray vigil]

Why are you trying to start a argument? Is that how your parents disciplined you?

[quartz inlet]

That would cause problems, and the developers certainly don't have enough experience to do that.

[gray vigil]

Yeah you're right. 10 years developing games isn't enough experience. Not at all

[quartz inlet]

What's the connection? I'm giving my opinion on something you said lol

[gray vigil]

You are ragebaiting that's what you do.

[quartz inlet]

Look at the state of SN and you'll have your answer as to whether they have the experience or not

[gray vigil]

And saying "lol" every message doesn't make you cool.

[gray vigil]

The answer is not that they don't have experience, rather they are lazy.

[quartz inlet]

I'm just giving my opinion, which is entirely well-founded.

[gray vigil]

Whatever you say.

[quartz inlet]

In any case, they'll never do it; a game needs balance. Pleasing everyone 100% isn't possible; the problem isn't the style

[gray vigil]

Yeak ik. I am just saying what I don't like. Either the devs decide to implement it is their own decision

[onyx swift]

option for art style change would totally ruin the servers

Yahzyx is correct

This thread doesn't really sound competent

Also this has NOTHING to do with Minecraft

Ain't nobody gonna copy a game

[quartz inlet]

Yes exactly

[onyx swift]

Nah no offence but this thread is better off being locked

This idea is too repetitive also

[obsidian geyser]

It's all about the style and what they added in the latest update. The old style was MUCH more atmospheric, better than your worthless style from "HN2." Almost every "SN" player is clearly unhappy with what the latest update brought. The game was designed in the style of the first "Hello Neighbor."
And it's not even that "they didn't think everything through," but that the style of the second part and the style of the first part are incompatible. Starting with the Journalist, the Taxidermist, and ending with the things in the house and everything else. And we immediately ask ourselves: what are Quentin and Otto doing here? Quentin has no connection to the group of kids, and there was no interaction between them. And I don't care what anyone says about the show; it's a fictional universe, and anything can happen there, and it can't be canon. Especially since we only saw him for 15 seconds, tops, in one episode, and that's it. And now Otto, what's he even doing here? What's his connection to the missing children? What significance does he even have in "Hello Neighbor"? And why is he one of the "neighbors"? There's no explanation, and there probably won't be one, because our developers don't care about anything, they're only interested in making money. No one needs him, and he was just added for fun. The objects and environments in Season 2 look absolutely terrible compared to the old style. The old style imparted a special atmosphere, mystery, and simplicity. And now? Playing with these clunky textures is truly difficult. Because of them, all the beauty that once was in SN simply evaporated in an instant. I don't care if someone calls me a hater of Sn's second style. Yes, Hello Neighbor 2 is good in some ways, but it clearly doesn't fit Sn. That's the developers' fault, and I blame them alone for ruining this wonderful game.

[obsidian geyser]

We have different views on SN, but it's undeniable that most people don't like the HN-2 style. The developers themselves are to blame for this. Even if they don't bring back the old style, we still have the option to play older versions of SN.

[obsidian geyser]

As for the ability to change textures in the game, it's practically impossible. The impossibility lies in the fact that the developers won't do it; they're simply too lazy, plus they're busy with the third HN game, and Hologryph won't finish Sand until early 2026.

[obsidian geyser]

The game will need to be reworked slightly to make hitboxes compatible with textures from two different games. And that's no small task. Not to mention the other challenges involved in making it all work.

[crimson sail]

hn1's art style was beautiful, and they removed it. They replaced it with a game full of lies like hn2 and introduced two characters, Quentin and the taxidermist, who are terrible from a story perspective. What's the connection? Why is the taxidermist attacking children with a gun? It's nonsense. If you think the game will develop like this, think again, but it won't. From my point of view, they need to bring back the old art style and fix the game. They need to find a way to make both sides happy, but in my opinion, the worst two updates for the game were the 2023 Halloween and 2023 Christmas updates.

[quartz inlet]

HN2’s style could work in SN, and I even think it’s the best option for SN to survive in the long term and become more serious.
Yes, Quentin and Otto don’t really fit in SN, I agree — but that’s not the point of what I’m saying. The core issue isn’t specific characters, it’s the overall direction and evolution of the game.
I don’t need to write a whole essay to explain this, because it’s honestly just logical. You can disagree, but that doesn’t make the idea invalid

[quartz inlet]

You just want to go back to an older version of SN, not for the game to evolve; what you want will never be possible

[quartz inlet]

This isn't Minecraft; an option to change textures to our liking is simply not possible. It would create a lot of bugs, the game wouldn't have a consistent identity, and that would just be stupid

[quartz inlet]

The point isn't that it's going to be complicated for them, the point is that it's just going to be pointless lol. The devs have no interest in doing that, and they're right in a way

[quartz inlet]

But? Are you completely off base? I'm talking about how beautiful the art style of HN2 is, and you're bringing up Quentin and Otto? I never said implementing those two characters was a good idea, quite the opposite, but the HN2 style is much more beautiful and detailed, and if SN had managed to introduce it well, it would have been magnificent

The style of HN1 is several years old; it no longer represents the identity of the franchise. It's time to evolve. HN2 retains some stylistic elements from HN1, but it's much more beautiful and detailed. What more could you ask for? The only real problem, as I've said many times, lies in its implementation on SN. That's all

[crimson sail]

I'm saying that HN1 was made based on the graphics, while HN2 is a game built on lies, and the art style isn't beautiful at all. Those who gave feedback don't like this update at all; they made the game even worse. HN2 is just a bad game trying to piggyback on HN1's success. None of the things they said about HN2 are in the game.

[obsidian geyser]

On the contrary, this is a more profound version of events, judging by the recent events in the game. Otherwise, how can we explain the fact that the game's online presence has dropped, every other player wants the old style, and many people even played this game? Yes, you say there are a lot of cheaters in the game and there are no updates. But that's only part of the game's problem. Returning to the old style is the first step toward reviving SN. If the developers had listened to us and added the best solutions in each update, the game could have been one of the best in the franchise. But no, they don't care; they're just squeezing the most out of "Hello Neighbor." The second part was just starting to gain popularity, but quickly died down. This is just an attempt to make money from the franchise again. They didn't care about the plot; they just added whatever they wanted. Cults, mysticism, the Guest—the developers wanted to turn HN into a horror detective story, but they failed. The plot literally doesn't move forward; they repeat it and play the entire thing. Ultimately, it's become practically the most basic game in the franchise. And when the 9th update finally came out, no one really liked it. HN-2 was a complete failure, and to keep the game alive, they added it to SN, completely ignoring the criticism. So what do we have? Where is this "evolution"? Is this the best update? You know, the only thing I can agree with is that the developers won't bring back the old style because they don't need it. A wallet full of money is more important to them than the game they ruined. They themselves are to blame, but they do not want to correct this feeling of guilt.

[obsidian geyser]

You may like the HN-2 style, but most of us find it disgusting.

[obsidian geyser]

I understand your point about evolution is valid, but the developers don't want to listen to us and only add things that will make them money in the future. And by "evolution," we don't mean HN-2, but something more suitable.

[quartz inlet]

There's no connection between the two; just because HN 2 is based on a lie doesn't mean the graphics are ugly

[quartz inlet]

Bro, people didn’t quit the game because of the graphics. They left because everything was poorly introduced, including the graphics. You’re just taking advantage of the fact that the player count dropped right when the visuals changed. Be realistic, man. The only way forward is to make the game more serious and give it better-looking graphics that actually bring a breath of fresh air to the game

[quartz inlet]

They find them repulsive because the introduction in SN makes them look really ugly

[quartz inlet]

In any case, this discussion is pointless. The developers no longer have the will to continue SN. Besides, you said that hologryph was busy with Sand until 2026, right? Well, basically at hologryph, one part works on Sand, and another on SN, which simply means that the halt in SN updates isn't due to Sand, but to something else, probably a lack of will

[obsidian geyser]

Now SN isn't even "supported" by developers, but by some random people who not only don't change the seasons (winter, spring, summer, fall) on time, but also don't replace the skins in the store with new ones that players can't buy. They sell the SAME SEASONAL skins. It seems like they're only changing everything for show.

[obsidian geyser]

I'm not using player statistics, I'm just voicing the majority of facts. Even if they implemented this update completely, nothing has changed. Most people don't like HN-2; it's simply a failure, and the developers are to blame for that. No matter how you watch HN-2 alongside HN-1, they're simply incompatible. My eyes are simply watering from such a "masterpiece" in a bad sense. For the game to continue to "live," as you say, the HN-1 style needs to be removed, and then everyone will definitely play it. But I'll disappoint you: before that's added, the game will completely die in every aspect.

[crimson sail]

hn2 graphics are terrible

[quartz inlet]

You have absolutely no arguments, man, it's just your opinion, but the truth is that the graphics in HN 2 are simply magnificent

[quartz inlet]

That's not a fact, that's your opinion. The reason for SN's decline is the lack of updates. SN has always had a drop in players due to the fact that the developers rarely release updates. You're making excuses

[crimson sail]

bruh

[quartz inlet]

And there's no point in writing long paragraphs for your "arguments," the game will remain dead in any case, and what I'm saying is simply true, you just don't want to face the truth

[quartz inlet]

don't cry 🤡

[crimson sail]

ha ?

[quartz inlet]

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[crimson sail]

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[quartz inlet]

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[crimson sail]

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[quartz inlet]

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[crimson sail]

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[dry fox]

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TinyBuild ruined the game.

We want the old Secret Neighbor!

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[olive wasp]

It’s like watching the 3rd movie of like 5 going through these feedback threads.

[obsidian geyser]

Do you call the fact an excuse? Most people do not like the "new" style, and the statistics for 2021-2022 will be better than for 2024-2025, which confirms this. You just don't want to admit the fact that the second style has led to a decrease in the number of online players. Why should I even argue with someone who will defend HN-2 to the end, even if he understands that the game has failed?

[olive wasp]

Yea however if we look at the bell curve of the third isosceles square we can verify that the evidence of secret neighbor statistics life cycle is in fact in a liquid state of matter and so thus the hypothesis is true of the reverse doors origin meaning that the 2024-2025 confirms the fact of truth and that the game has some players that play it making secret neighbor dense matter.

[quartz inlet]

But I'm talking about the graphics, which are magnificent, not about HN 2 directly. And as I've already said, the number of players is explained by the fact that the game hasn't been updated for two years. You really can't think straight, lol.

[onyx swift]

You know what

This guy has a point on everything

I don't know what else to add on

But I think there isn't a point of arguing over artstyle if devs don't listen

The artstyle is alright but with the pathway this game went onto, it didn't go well