Hello Neighbor 1 Remake

[wheat loom]

Just take for example, Fortnite released OG season and everyone enjoyed it. Maybe remake Alpha 1, Beta 3 or Full Game as they are the most popular(and you accually made that games perfect).Also, remake doesn't mean completely new game, everyone wants the same atmosphere. Tip: Alpha 1 has unfinished 3rd floor

[waxen raft]

W

[cunning tusk]

i think alex once said that when they are done with fixing hn2 they will remake hn1

[wheat loom]

He said maybe, I hope so

[loud gust]

Hopefully the story telling is less convoluted and actually shows the events on what happened from the neighbor’s or child’s perspective

I also hope the puzzles and act 3 house is less complicated to navigate and solve and you can actually always not be cornered by the neighbor. The act 1 house should be the similar to the act 1 house in hello neighbor 2

[wheat loom]

Also idk why they didn't use HN1 Alpha 1 house, it was good

[loud gust]

yeah they could have put it in the game and made it slightly cartoonic like this

[obtuse hornet]

Dam sure hope they do

Holy crap, not only remaking hn1, but also making it as its og style? Needs to happen so this game can have more relevancy

[obtuse hornet]

Becauuse they thought adding more complecated houses with loads of parkour was a good idea

[loud gust]

Well let’s not remake it in its og style, that’s too realistic and it’s not reallly fun looking

Use hello neighbor 2’s artstyle

[obtuse hornet]

Id be fine with that too ig

[loud gust]

It gives hello neighbor it’s recognizable identity

[obtuse hornet]

I like realistic more since it gave you an actual sense of breaking into someone home. Plus, it was still cartoonish in its own way

[loud gust]

Ok yeah it does feel like a break and enter

But so does hello neighbor 2

[obtuse hornet]

For me thats what made the game feel more intense, and....disturbing in some way

[loud gust]

I haven’t played the alphas of 1 yet

[obtuse hornet]

Not really

In hn2, you get just a little gasp, and then low volumed chase music. He acts like he isnt too suprised that we are in his house. But in the older games, he came bolting at you, music maxed immediatley, it was a different time, and different game

[loud gust]

I think you have to turn up the music

Like the volume

[obtuse hornet]

No, the music is so non chalant. That music aint gonna give u any jumpscares that fs

[loud gust]

Yeah well maybe it’s just the cop

The other neighbors have intense chase music

Like Peterson

Baker

Mayor

[obtuse hornet]

No you are right, but the music is still not that threatening. Instead of scaring me when i played the game, it was more like a notification for me to know if im being chased or not

[loud gust]

That’s a good way to describe it

[loud gust]

The scary music like in the pre alpha would have been too intense

I think that’s why they removed it

[obtuse hornet]

Yeah, they would have to change the whole movement style of the neighbor to make him look more aggressive, and also make him faster.

[obtuse hornet]

I am all for the alphas and wished they continued with that type of theme, but the new story got way too complicated

I loved Hn1 story, Neighbor lost his family, aaron still alive, yknow, the basics

But then that got so much more confusing with hn2, and now with books

Like how in matpats video said, people dont wanna be reading books for answers

[loud gust]

They are making the games have the full story

So you’ll only need to play 1 and 2 to know what happens

I heard some of the books aren’t game canon

[obtuse hornet]

Good, now lets hope hn2 actually builds off hn1 story in a good way

[loud gust]

Yes!

[obtuse hornet]

Lol u probably think i hate hello neighbor, but i dont know if you were liking hello neighbor back then, but it was a new indie horror game, that no one has seen before. Like fnaf in that sense. They had a good vibe, and gameplay that shaped hello neighbors identity. I just hate when games do things like this.

Especially fortnite

Do not get me started about fortnite

[loud gust]

I watched YouTubers play the alphas

[obtuse hornet]

I see

[loud gust]

Check out my 2 suggestions on hello neighbor 2 feedback channel

[loud gust]

https://discord.com/channels/474299944254308373/1297452463137226806

[loud gust]

https://discord.com/channels/474299944254308373/1297438323002052670

[obtuse hornet]

This one would be cool

[loud gust]

If you love it make sure to leave an emoji reaction

[obtuse hornet]

Tbh, its not like i dont like you or anything like that, but i just really dont care what they add to hn2 at this point lol

[loud gust]

Do you not like the game?

[obtuse hornet]

its alright

Nothing special

[loud gust]

Is it the shady history with tinybuild

[obtuse hornet]

Yeah with that too

[loud gust]

The ai promises that were broken

[obtuse hornet]

Yeah

Then reaching out to mat pat for clout

Like wth

[loud gust]

Wait. Did you play hello neighbor 2

[obtuse hornet]

Yes

[loud gust]

Did you play patch 9

It’s scary

[obtuse hornet]

Ive seen videos. But before I seen those videos, I havent played hn2 in like a year. And to me, it looked exactly the same

[loud gust]

It isn’t the exact same as it was

[obtuse hornet]

Yes ik

[loud gust]

Moved items

[obtuse hornet]

Tiny build just put you guys into such a deep poverty state at the moment to where you guys will see anything as a big improvement

[loud gust]

Well my big suggestions are going to actually be massive improvements

[final dock]

old art isn't too realistic and it actually makes the game feel horrory

hn2 is kinda ok

but it wouldn't fit hn1

[loud gust]

Ok well if they remake hello neighbor 2… should they keep the old artstyle and just make the town abandoned

[fervent yacht]

We need this

[obtuse hornet]

exactly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkREzi3IL7M&t=177s

That video is short, and its perfectly well said to what happened to hello neighbor

And its coming from the 🐐 markiplier

[gray fractal]

I can't wait 20+ years for them to (in their opinion) fix hn2. Besides, they'll be too busy working on the series (which I'm pretty sure doesn't connect to the games, but it's not like any of the games connect to each other) and from what I've heard a movie, which will probably be the suckiest and low-budget production in human history.

In my opinion they should've stuck with Steelwool so that their games didn't flop harder than my great grandmother's corpse at two in the morning.

[obtuse hornet]

I agree

This game dissapoints me so bad. Ive seen games grow from a seed, to a tall tree, and ive seen some start as a tall tree, but then burn down. But this game couldve had a tree reaching the heavens, but they through that seed away, and replaced it with a cracked and weak seed

[gray fractal]

Honestly if tinybuild actually looked at these feedback channels then I'd try to offend them as much as I can considering how horrible the game has become. But sadly these channels were made to make the community feel like we have a voice in the games growth/degeneration.

[obtuse hornet]

We have never had a voice

If they listened to us they wouldve changed after alpha 3

How could you be that stupid and say, "We made 2 games, pre alpha and alpha 1, and we made now two other games, alpha 3 and 4. They are both entirely different, and have different specialities. it looks like alphas 3 and 4 arent doing that good at all. Lets continue to go that route!"

[gray fractal]

wonder if we could @ alex to this. probably wouldn't even look at it though.

[obtuse hornet]

He wont care.

I genuinley want to have Nikitas thoughts out of everyones

I want to ask him, "Would you have rather continued with Hello Neighbors original thought, or do you like the way it is now?"

[gray fractal]

Yeah. And don't get me wrong the idea of the raven man is pretty cool, but tinybuild hyped him up so much only for him to simply just not appear most of the game and for his segment to have no continuity to the start of the game. But of course thats the second game, and we're organized fellas so that won't be discussed in this channel.

[obtuse hornet]

Yeah i agree with that exactly. I had some hope for hn2 in its early alphas

[trim wyvern]

I hope they make it alpha 2/3 styled where it's cartoony but less

[rotund needle]

Basically alpha 1.5

[obtuse hornet]

Lowkey that had a perfect mix of artstyle

[final dock]

no

alpha 1.5 is old art

[trim wyvern]

Yeah

[rotund needle]

It was mostly, but there was some cartoonish art aswell

[dapper delta]

If not old art then pre alpha hopefully have it as nice looking as hn2 or how hn3 looks so far and not whatever the final of first game was.

[feral harness]

Is that LordMinion? I haven't seen him for a good while.

[obtuse hornet]

ye im prtty sure

[rotund needle]

fr

[glossy loom]

If they remake hn1 it would probably be in the HN2 style, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. It would be kinda cool

[feral granite]

I think a HN remake should have an unique artstyle

A cartoony and surreal artstyle but also slightly realistic

I wouldn't mind them using the artstyle of the FG though

Aslong as they use good lighting and graphics

Because the lack of those two things is the reason why HN 1 artstyle looks so dogshit

[fresh laurel]

hi

[glossy loom]

Like Nicky's diaries

[thick zodiac]

Remake the full game not the alpha

Obviously i dont see why theyd remake the alpha

[trim wyvern]

If they remade all the alphas, kept each alphas artstyle (maybe even add away to decide which artstyle you want) put them all into one game and release it to all devices and call it the alpha collection they would make so much money

[ripe hemlock]

Ngl whatever HN1 remake they do it'll be really neat to get "bonus houses" from the past as some extra content after beating the game, like Devgamm or Pre-Alpha (Prototype is overrated and got 27174958194 fangames so exclude that)

[trim wyvern]

I've played alot of those prototype houses and ngl the house itself is awful, it's so cramped and the stairs never lead anywhere and will always get you caught

[ripe hemlock]

indeed

[empty pulsar]

Maybe add alphas to console instead.

As I have to buy a laptop / PC now to play the exciting alphas of what the game started on to what it become.

[nova whale]

Yeah no

[trim wyvern]

Hello neighbor 2 alpha 1 and hello guest are in Xbox already

[nova whale]

Also Hello Neighbor 2 Alpha 1 is technically only available on Microsoft PC

It's not on the console

[trim wyvern]

It literally is

[nova whale]

This poor kid doesn't know..

Smh

[trim wyvern]

Huh

What do I not know :[

[nova whale]

It's literally only available on Microsoft PC

It's not on console. There's no mention of it being on console

[trim wyvern]

Oh man :[

[nova whale]

Like sure you can view it there when going to the Microsoft store but it doesn't always technically mean it's on both PC and console

[trim wyvern]

Me?

Wrong?

[nova whale]

Yes

[trim wyvern]

Not possible

[nova whale]

🤯

[trim wyvern]

I'm always right because I'm batman and batmans always right

[nova whale]

Next time look at this

[ebon canopy]

that would be good sauce

[trim wyvern]

Again as I said I'm literally batman so I'm literally always right

[nova whale]

[loud gust]

You rn:

Being all mysterious

[trim wyvern]

Yeah cuz I'm batman

Literally me

[thick zodiac]

Forget about HN1 Remake what about a HN2 remake

[fallen crypt]

now thats peak

[loud gust]

Nah we need a good hello neighbor 1 game

and it should also explain what happened to the neighbor instead of having even more games

maybe a remaster of hn2 would be cool, but let's make it the abandoned theme that was the alphas

[thick zodiac]

Hello Neighbor one is good enough for now as long as no ones purposefully trying to bin glitch the games fine but HN2 is what needs a revival someday

[ripe hemlock]

HN1 is NOT good enough, it's parkour and puzzles badly mixed with an AI thrown into the mess despite clearly not being accounted for (case in point: essentially camping the Act 2 spawn assuming that it's an oftenly visited by the player spot that it needs to check, placing bajillion cameras in one place, or like the entirety of the Act 3 house that it can't access)

And that's not even being too specific on what's bad about it, I think when it comes to the question of "Wut to remake??", the game that served as franchise's very foundation takes priority and not a sequel that is actually more bearable in comparison

(especially taking into account the outdated artstyle and certain story elements cough cough)

[feral granite]

That's literally just HN 3

Honestly i can think of alot of ideas for a HN 2 remake (especially since it's cancelled) but i really can't think of much for HN 1 content wise (aside from upgrading things like the AI, artstyle, puzzles, house layout, basement and story). Like, what would be after act 1? Because having the next acts just be the act 1 house but bigger would be just lame and quite frankly the same thing as the original game

Well actually, Now that i think about It, it would be easier to add the content in HN 2 to HN 1 cuz it's cancelled but maybe reimagined

Though that would mean HN 3 is actually HN 2. But who cares anyway

[thick zodiac]

Its enjoyable and silly and nostalgic and charmy HN2 was like yeah it was like yeah ya know just a bit yeah

[ripe hemlock]

Eh, valid

[feral granite]

Silly, nostalgic and charming doesn't equal good

Everything ahout HN 1 is just bad

HN 2 may be short but it's way more enjoyable than HN 1

[thick zodiac]

No it is not

[feral granite]

Yes it is

[thick zodiac]

And also it isnt its much more boring

[feral granite]

You can't convice me bruh

[feral granite]

And HN 1 is frustating

[thick zodiac]

at least HN1 was silly goofy steal neighbor stuff kindly keyin box fort beat neighbor up

[feral granite]

"silly goofy steal neighbor" idc bruh 💀

Im not playing the game to laugh

Im playing to have fun

I never had fun playing HN 1

Like ever

[thick zodiac]

HN2 was go house dont even do the puzzle cutscene end game wait for patch 10 (it didnt happen)

[feral granite]

HN2 was boring

HN1 was frustating

One has an unfinished story, is short and has baby puzzles while the other has a horrible storyline, terrible AI, physics and puzzles.

Which one is better?

Yeah gameplay wise both games are terrible (imo)

But still, HN2 to me was way more enjoyable than HN1 as short as it was

And HN2 is also a big jump in quality compared to the first game

[loud gust]

The Hello Neighbor 1 story was about Nicky’s trauma and him overcoming it. Not about Aaron.

[feral granite]

Ok?

I never said anything about that but alright

[loud gust]

Oh

Sorry… I thought you were talking about Hello Neighbor ONE. I thought you were saying that the first one’s story was unfinished

[feral granite]

Dw

[nova whale]

HN2!!!

[feral granite]

A little bit but yeah

[trim wyvern]

there is no way to know that unless you watch the show, read the books or play the awful mobile game

[loud gust]

There is. You see Nicky having hallucinations and the dreams after you get caught do tell the story you just gotta think

[trim wyvern]

You won't really understand them tho

[loud gust]

The neighbors backstory: The car crash: You hear a woman voice and the neighbor going to the car. It crashes and the neighbor is heart broken. The rollercoaster cutscene: The roller coaster rides on a giant house structure indicating that you are on a house. The hands on the roller coaster push the girl cardboard cutout to the grave, implying that you pushed her off the house

And the roller coaster ride also has a littler boy getting mad and a girl getting scared

And when he buried the daughter, you know that it’s the daughter being buried because the mother died in front of the public, but there was no one when the daughter died

[ripe hemlock]

kinda wish neighbor's backstory and the trauma plotline was elaborated upon better

For example the Golden Apple cutscene esque thing where you see things from his pov or maybe just overall more direct explanations

because, not only are some of the cutscenes not in order, some are a bit hard to tell the meaning of

take the one where you see the shadow of Theodore burying Mya then go under a table to get caught by Theodore from Aaron's POV

you can connect that he's burying Mya but not that the scene afterwards is supposed to show that he captured Aaron and put him into the basement afterwards

some might even have a chance of misinterpretating it as just a nightmare Nicky had of how evil neighbur guy buried someone and then caught him too!!1

Or take the roller-coaster nightmare for example, the direction taken is cool and all with the roller-coaster (ayy thematic) and with how it builds up slowly on a height before you and the Mya cutout fall into the abyss, but it doesn't really elaborate much on that Aaron was the one who pushed her off

Yes his cutout is at the counter before you get in but so far he had only ONE appearance beforehand and it's the "blink and miss" moment where you can see him unlock the door for Nicky

based off these nightmares alone you had no clue up to this point that Theodore had a son or that it was HIS child that he locked in the basement, or that he IS that one silly cutout

Personally at one point when I was still new to the franchise I even overthought the whole roller-coaster nightmare when I heard of Lucy Yi's story, thinking that was about her (you know, roller-coasters, a kid dying on one, etc) thankfully a misinterpretation quickly shot down

[ripe hemlock]

and the Thing, well, I think even just putting Theodore's model instead of "spooky shadow man" would elaborate on the "trauma" thing more, the show has done a better job at showing it but the game... Not really

besides I think it'd be sick and overall better to have the Thing be some really messed up version of Theodore's model

[feral granite]

I like the idea of the thing changing it's design

So it can take any form

Or maybe even having multiple fears/things at once

And they all manifest into a big supreme fear

Which is the thing we fight in act 4

[ripe hemlock]

it'd be cool to see it become some big hybrid or something

[runic fjord]

They don't fix things. Just realese more crap

[cunning tusk]

you realize that i wrote that months ago before we even knew of hn3 right?

youre quite pessimistic

[runic fjord]

Yes, they didn't fix HN2, and are going to release more crap.

[cunning tusk]

im sure they learned from their mistakes

[feral granite]

Yeah, and the "crap" looks far better than HN2 ever did

Sorry brah but HN3 is gonna be better than HN2

[runic fjord]

Yeah
, sure. After the fourth time.

[runic fjord]

I wish it would be. But there track record proves otherwise

[feral granite]

If it wasn't for Nikita leaving HN2 mid development the game would've good so idk what you're talking about

[cunning tusk]

bro cant accept change

[feral granite]

Fr 💀

[runic fjord]

I accept change. By this point I'm just no longer gullible. You two clearly are though.

[cunning tusk]

whatever you say

[feral granite]

Yeah sure bro

[loud gust]

It's not that he can't accept change. It's that tinybuild has a public record of either making their games nothing like it was advertised, or just make something good but not completing it

[cunning tusk]

you are right but that does not mean they cant change

[runic fjord]

Hello Neighbor 2 was supposed to be the change

[feral granite]

Blame alexus and tinybuilds

HN2 could have been good if it wasn't for that unecessary change

[ripe hemlock]

you shouldn't blame the guy

eating crap over and over again is no fun, people have their limits

[ripe hemlock]

they'll just have to PROVE it instead of promising and not delivering

just because they can change doesn't necessarily mean they will, I still have some faith in them but like

you shouldn't blame people for not holding out hope

[cunning tusk]

i never tried to blame anyone
and im sure that tinibuild or eries guest studios aint that stupid to actualy not change but i see your point

[feral granite]

No one is blaming anyone

[ripe hemlock]

^^^

[runic fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/moon-knight-marvel-disney-plus-fight-crescent-darts-gif-25406634

Pear defending my behind like

[feral granite]

MattTheHydra77

Pear me defending my behind like

[trim wyvern]

Alexis wanted something new tiny build wanted it to be more marketable with the neighbor and all new enemies forgetting the idea of the guest being a MAIN threat and the open world you can tell alpha 2 was when Tiny build took charge and it's even more obvious with that being when Alexis left

[feral granite]

Alpha 2 was still Nikita until he left

Than alexus took over and scrapped most of his ideas and forgot about the guest

[cunning tusk]

That aint blaming but a joke

[elder walrus]

There comes HN3 instead

[ripe hemlock]

Act 3!!!

[ripe hemlock]

Is this actually a possibile house variant to get

[glossy loom]

I think its an actual screenshot from the remake

[ripe hemlock]

It's clearly the Diaries house though

[glossy loom]

similar but no

and to be fair

a lot of ppl like nicky's diaries house

[ripe hemlock]

Well this screenshot dates to at least

2 years ago

Ugh somebody should make a proper wiki page for Diaries

At least so we can see all the house variations gosh

[dapper delta]

So theres this game called hello neighbor diaries on mobile…

[glossy loom]

Well yes but if I was wrong about this image it's only because someone sent it to me

And the bg isn't from nd

[glossy loom]

HN2 came out about 2 years ago

[dapper delta]

I believe this was the first if not one of the first screenshots we’d seen of ND game and back then I think it was a thing people talked about there possibly being a remake/remaster due to something Alex said and this was thought to be it because it was shared around the time.

[glossy loom]

Cool. I'm still excited for an HN1 remake tho

[prisma wing]

W

[echo rose]

I wish the final game was more like the pre alpha

The best version