Ever since the early alpha 3, the game got more confusing, too complex, too cartoony. etc. Why did they change the whole game, when it was in it's pre-alpha to alpha 2 state, they recieved the best reviews, and it was a 2016-2017 sensation.
#Question: Why couldn't hello neighbor stay as its original thought?
quartz cairn
quartz cairn
Yes, but why make a bunch of parkour, somehow nerf the ai, and making the neighbor not even a worry in the later games.
tawny sedge
Bro watch out @olive plinth is gonna def come at you for this one 🙄 but it’s true they are basically making different games at this point they make a game about making makes no problem just slap hello neighbor on the name and we’re set
olive plinth
Either you are confusing me to someone else, or are you an alt to this person...
Because I've never asked tb to EVER make a hn game that is not related to it's concept as a whole
All I asked is for them to make a hn spinoff game or something that is ACTUALLY related to the concept on what hn is meant to be. Not a game where it's made for everyone else rather than the specific community that they need to target.
And if anything else, I'd rather have a new hn game that has the concept of hn or have no new hn game or media
Hell, I even loved the old builds of hn1 because on how simple yet accurate they are by design
olive plinth
Oh wait, I know who you are. You are that guy that I argued with months ago.
How serviceable of you to come here to this feedback and ping my name with your dim.
olive plinth
Ever since the early alpha 3, the game got more confusing, too complex, too cart...
I so darn agree with this. The draft change from a simple house that we must sneak in to a house that is riddled with awful puzzles and for some unnecessary reasons, making the house big was the worst development change that I have EVER seen.
quartz cairn
I so darn agree with this. The draft change from a simple house that we must sne...
Yes although i dont remember arguing with u
Last time i was here was over a year ago
But, the new games can be this or that, but I like to look at statistics. How popular and how liked was hello neighbor back in 2016-2017 compared to now
That should give you a pretty good answer
olive plinth
That should give you a pretty good answer
And yet, you decided to mention me as some guy who is against the older games
quartz cairn
And yet, you decided to mention me as some guy who is against the older games
I never mentioned you
olive plinth
I never mentioned you
Oh wait, i am talking to a different person. Nvm
quartz cairn
lol
olive plinth
Then how come you said that you've never argued with me
I know I never did argued with you
quartz cairn
Oh wait, I know who you are. You are that guy that I argued with months ago.
Cuz u said i was a guy u argued with a couple months ago
Miscommunication miscommunication lol
olive plinth
Cuz u said i was a guy u argued with a couple months ago
No because it started like this
Then this is how it continued
And this was before you started to respond to me
quartz cairn
And this was before you started to respond to me
I see
tiny loom
I guess modern games being easy and simple is a better approach if done correctly.
eager trench
Honestly I think we should enjoy hello neighbor for what it is, like not comparing it to pre alpha. And if you don't like hello neighbor, most people say it's because of the art style and how "bad" the ai is. The ai ain't even that bad, it's just the way tb made the houses and how fast Nicky is
tiny loom
Honestly I think we should enjoy hello neighbor for what it is, like not compari...
How I view it, the AI is pretty bad. But not terrible either. Like it’s got some things going, but due to how fast Nicky is, and how big the house is (the neighbor can barely access half of his house!), the AI is guaranteed to be get bugged. Their “the bigger, the better!” mindset backfired and shot the team’s foot.
eager trench
I agree, but that's why I love the game! It's wacky, fun and a bit sad
random falcon
They should make an old art full game
eager trench
there already are mods that do that so tinybuild doesnt need to do it though
quartz cairn
there already are mods that do that so tinybuild doesnt need to do it though
Yeah but those mods arent canon
And all it changes are the actual houses and stuff like that
quartz cairn
Honestly I think we should enjoy hello neighbor for what it is, like not compari...
AI isnt the best, but its not like its the worst thing in the world, i agree with that. But the AI is a big part of the whole franchise, and the devs did not promise us the AI they were telling us about
eager trench
yeah i agree
next sierra
AI isnt the best, but its not like its the worst thing in the world, i agree wit...
Ehh
It could have been better
olive plinth
Not anything dumb has to be a game mechanic at all
quartz cairn
I get why they added parkour, but they couldve learned from it, especially in alpha 3, but nope, they kept on going. In alpha 4 and so on, the neighbor isnt even something to worry about. Those games defeat the whole purpose for what the game really is. A game, trying to avoid the neighbor, finding solutions to the basement, and getting in there. The basement was so mysterious back then, and it built so much curiosity for what would be in it. But at this point, the basement has been such a dissapointment. The best basement ending was in alpha 1, still built up suspense and curiosity for the average player wanting to come back to the game. Now the basement isnt even anything special.
When you have over 80% of the youtube community like jacksepticeye and markiplier back then complaining about the game for alpha 3 and so forth, that should be a big hint to change the game up a bit, maybe to ease back to how it was
In full on reality though, tinybuild really caused the rise and fall. Yes tinybuild did get it published and popular, but at what cost? if you ever look back into the early history for the development of the game, once tinybuild became part of it, things started to change. With their more friendly cartoony artstyle (Which is what we have today) and small changes to the game that would build up to big ones by the end of the game. I dont like to say tinybuild should've not chose tinybuild to publish their game, but then again, would the game be better? Would the game be truly, "Hello Neighbour!" And not "Hello Neighbor" ?
granite rain
Cartoony stuff is very easy: They wanted to mkae more money by making it mainly for children, because children love that stuff
split river
Cartoony stuff is very easy: They wanted to mkae more money by making it mainly ...
This isnt the reason but whatever
granite rain
This isnt the reason but whatever
Then explain why did they decide to make so colorful and cartoony
granite rain
Noone believes that explanation lol
split river
You dont believe that explination
granite rain
A lot of people have already said that it was an excuse
That style doesnt even fit a horror game lmao
The HN2 style on the other hand, although its still cartoony, looks much better and fits a horror game
split river
Nikita had already mentioned it before if I remember correctly, Hello Neighbor 1 itself is not a horror movie, but rather a sad story disguised as a game.
tiny build is the one who always plants it as a horror game, to market it
granite rain
It's obvious that there would be changes alongt the way of development, that's why Alphas are creasted - to test the game. But noone has ever asked to make the game less scary, and giving player more and more advantages to the player. To the point that Markiplier refused to play the full game.
steel star
Well hey every game changes artstyle so much why can’t they use old art for a game
plucky peak
Ever since the early alpha 3, the game got more confusing, too complex, too cart...
i think the cartoony style better
eager trench
i kinda agree
it feels unique
i mean
bendy ALSO has a cartoony style and it's not a bad game because of that
so it doesnt make hello neighbor a bad game because of it
quartz cairn
so it doesnt make hello neighbor a bad game because of it
Kind of
I think they just executed the game with the cartoony look poorly
dull surge