Reboot/Remake the game instead of making a New Update

[oak perch]

SN itself is a really good game, but now the devs are just ruining it. SN is most likely to update after they finish the "sand" game they are making. But please, instead of focusing on a new update, make a reboot/remake for the game.

Reasons:

HN2 Artstyle Change: The HN2 graphics was a really controversial change, as most of the people don't like it, and prefer the hn1/old SN artstyle.

Otto and Quentin: Why are they even in there? The "kids breaking inside mr peterson's house" idea is just gone now as there is now a literal Grown Man with a generic dash ability with a bunch of kids. And also, Otto in general doesn't fit in the game.

Balance: I can barely find the game balanced, as it is either way too neighbor sized, or too "explorers" sized. Things such as grapple + clock are just unfair and haven't been fixed in years. Or also when your lobby is full of tryhards that just completly ruins the fun of the game. The game itself becomes a more tryhard/sweaty game rather than a fun game.

Aim Assist: Why is this even a thing? It makes playing as Neighbor or as Kid harder than it should be.

Opinions: I think that there should be no Adult explorers, as in general they don't fit, and the kids vs neighbor is a very cool concept. Also, "explorers", the name doesn't even make sense. Just calling the kids team simply "kids" is way better than "explorer"

The game was way more fun to play as years ago, but now it seems like the devs barely care about the game due to many people complaining about these stuff and them not doing anything. Please fix SN and make it fun like it was before.

Another completly optional suggestion: If possible, it would be great making SN on android too. It would make the game way more alive than before and bring more players to it. Also the game will most likely run on a lot of devices if optimized enough. (Please don't dislike the suggestion just because of the android part, as this is optional)

[sinful gust]

i think the same,liked it

[fringe drum]

I'd say also make the game more of a stealth game instead of a fighting game. It's way too easy to make it a fighting game.

Also, it won't be on Android since it would be easy to cheat.

[warm lagoon]

I generally agree with most of this! But keep the dance emotes, they’re just a bit of fun

[torn imp]

This was the real controversial decision

[warm lagoon]

I still don’t get why people are so against this change. It’s free on iOS, and this is an effective way to monetise. The game is paid on other platforms, at least you get bagger and scary neighbor for free on iOS 🤷‍♂️

[torn imp]

The problem is they changed it so you can’t use coins anymore to unlock characters therefore it’s pay to win now and that’s what so controversial about it

They basically took away the alternative and forced people to pay

Pay to Win

[warm lagoon]

Pay to win means players who pay money get an in game advantage. This is just not the case. Besides, the in game coin purchases were so expensive, it was horrible. The amount of time you’d have to spend to unlock just one character was crazy.

[torn imp]

Still it was an option they took away for no reason

Even if the prices were a bit pricey

[dire kayak]

i agree with this but just keep the dance emote:)

this game has potential

like bro its just among us but 3D and way more fun

but devs are just ruined it with a literally grown man come in and taxidermist

[torn imp]

Don’t forgot the update was nothing but a advertisement for hello neighbor 2 patch 9 and they didn’t even remove anything afterwards

[errant kettle]

I think they should roll back the game until the summer 2021 update, and from then on remake the game listening EXACTLY to the community.
And not to some random guys (or IB7, he just has terrible ideas), but to real people who play a lot and have knowledge of the game

but this is still good idea :3

[oak perch]

It could be cool, but one of the main reasons of why I think it should be removed is because of being toxic

[dire kayak]

i think just remove the "tease" emote one

because its obviously teasing

[peak flame]

True

[lyric owl]

I think to solve the tryhard problem they should put skill based match-making

Cuz they have badges right

[fringe drum]

You'd need a big player base to introduce such thing.
Otherwise you'd be waiting a long time before someone joins that lobby.

[lyric owl]

So make it so you only face players who have the same color badge as you

[fringe drum]

I don't know if that's better or worse.
For new comers, it's fine and a good idea, but for yellow badge people for example, they will have to wait.

[lyric owl]

Idk just trying to help

[oak perch]

What are your toughts about the android part thought?

[fringe drum]

I said it would be easy to cheat of it was on Android.

And the "SN on Android" thing has been suggested many times.

[oak perch]

Maybe they could add an anticheat tho

[analog sandal]

They did

And it sucks lol

[uncut epoch]

Rebooting the game is a stupid idea

They can just make an update that fixes the game

[oak perch]

I doubt it is going to be made

[mystic oxide]

Dont get rid of the HN2 graphics just polish it a bit they just retextured files but

I also have this one pal that thinks there hard becuase the jump instead of walk

[fathom peak]

I Really Like The HN1 Art Style 😢

[dusky fern]

yeah maybe let us keep our cosmetics and levels but just restart the whole thing starting with having the old ambience and old map 1 back

and maybe the old collision

[mystic oxide]

I swear if i see one more person say about the graphics i will glass myself

I know i already said that but still we can shutup about it now they get it and it aint gonna happen

But the new graphics are not even bad

[merry kite]

Old graphics (graphics, not art-style btw the old one is also better to me) was more good, we have good yellow lighting with AMAZING reflections (now they deleted it for optimization). The corners of the rooms and unlit places were completely black (which is logical) but now they are completely visible, literally you don't even need a flashlight, the lighting has become very dim (it feels like it's worse in the dark with a flashlight than without it), but completely dark areas have disappeared. you can go to the inventor tutorial and see that in the place where you need to craft night vision goggles to pass the maze it is completely light

[mystic oxide]

Sorry i meant style

[merry kite]

So i think they need to remake graphics

[mystic oxide]

The graphics are shit but the style is something people need to shutup about

[merry kite]

50/50 i think old cartoon style looking good, but i also love new one too

I wish we could choose between both, but due to the out-of-sync this is not possible.

[mystic oxide]

Both are fine but hello neighbor 2 style is also carried by the lighting

The lighting is very important to the HN2 style

[merry kite]

Also with new style,the old rooms where it was a little empty were filled with objects such as a kitchen in 1 map

And it's good

[mystic oxide]

I think the maps are badly designed honestly most rooms have like 2 or 3 keys in

[merry kite]

I love only first 2 maps, other are just not balanced to me

[mystic oxide]

I think the OG house should be randomized

[merry kite]

They can make 6 map which will be like the first map (an ordinary neighbor's house) but with random generation

Sadly that they are dont care about sn in the near future

[mystic oxide]

Make the game cater to HN2 add other houses to explore and update lighting and gradually update over time each cosmetic, change combat and an animation overhall (only expand the HN2 style when they get ligthing right)

also update how bad the random spawning of keys and traps are

most of the time you can find like 3 keys per room

[merry kite]

Keys spawn randomly only in level editor, since 2021 there is a certain formula by which the keys are spawned

[mystic oxide]

Then change to formula becuase it is ridiculous how many keys you can find right next to eachother

[merry kite]

Yep, especially on 4 map

On 2 keycard door all keys spawned

[mystic oxide]

and also for classes like detective random generation maps are kind of needed becuase it is so easy to remember each map after 5 years even with the style change which is not how HN works you are not supposed to know where to go cos thats how peterson workks

[merry kite]

The last time they changed the formula was HN2 update, but it has hardly changed, I hope they will fix it

However, this is better than a completely random key spawn, in beta the basement could be opened in a minute

[mystic oxide]

Im making a fan made HN spinoff so do you think i should make a SN of that game that isnt dogshit

[merry kite]

If it's legal, why not to try

[mystic oxide]

As long as its free i think but my game is basically its own but still connected to HN

[mystic oxide]

I can send you a server link

[errant kettle]

I think that game was great at Summer 2021 ( right before ghost was added )

Just fix some bugs and game will be okay 👌

[mystic oxide]

Some??

[merry kite]

I think if you fix all the bugs, the game won't work. This game are one big bug

[mystic oxide]

No the bugs make the game not work.

The game is just bad

now it is anyway

[errant kettle]

No, I mean return to summer 2021 version, and then fix some bugs

No ghost, guest, Quentin, taxidermist, stupid buffs

Just old FUN secret neighbor 😄

[mystic oxide]

Honestly old SN didnt even cut it imo

This game should have been treated like a Hello Neighbor Multiplayer from the start not Beat a man to death sim with a Hello Neighbor ip attached

[sudden spoke]

Otto's and Quentin's abilities shouldn't exist,
Quentin got no abilities but high movement speed and dash and Otto is just gun - all your gameplay is about downing kids and thats just boring

[merry kite]

Bro

[merry kite]

Journalist have ability to control all map

And also see what keys are needed it's too good