Change the Lock Count to 6 change the time limit to 10 minutes
It’s called a penalty match so it could be made a little harder to complete with a little more difficulty
#make the penalty matches harder
pastel crypt
again I said this before unless this was a different mode like a brawl it’s a bad idea to add an AI neighbor but it’s still the idea
exotic vine
no
penalties are good enough
i mean they could make them a little harder but this is way too punishing
pastel crypt
i mean they could make them a little harder but this is way too punishing
What exactly could they do to make it a little more harder other than just simply just make it six locks instead of three give me your ideas here
exotic vine
no ai
pastel crypt
Thought so
exotic vine
just keep ai out of this game
pastel crypt
It is a bad idea unless it’s a separate mode
The tutorial
Snow thief
They have AI Bots and no one complaining
exotic vine
*The tutorial*
that is an exception
pastel crypt
Reminds me how they sealed off the inventors tutorial room neighbor
He was fast and it’s funny. It’s pretty much just telling you if if you open the door while the neighbors behind it, he’ll just sprint at you candy bar speed just because you open the door he was behind that is a very unrealistic situation
I can see why they sealed him off
exotic vine
anyways my idea is just leave it the way it is
exotic vine
maybe there could be something to make it harder without it being too punishing but i cant think of anything right now
tawdry vessel
just keep ai out of this game
So like remove 50% of the playerbase, gotcha 
exotic vine
So like remove 50% of the playerbase, gotcha <:trolley:1145176176613138604>
yes :trol:
pastel crypt
You really think 50% the player place is just gonna leave just because they removed tutorial bots
tawdry vessel
I was making a joke and calling the players bots
tawdry vessel
Sorry that wasn't clear :P
pastel crypt
Anyway AI Neighbor being in any other place in the game, besides the tutorial and Snow Thief
That’s what I’m getting here is that the neighbor shouldn’t be controlled by a bot unless it’s like any other events
There’s only one event that makes use of bots and that snow thief
And it’s just a bagger bot
dawn dirge
BROO, imagine a newbie who accidentally leave the match and now he need to play a clutch against a powerful AI💀
dawn dirge
then you could change the original message, if the devs see this suggestion, they are not read all message
dawn dirge
We just discussed this and the answer is no ai
i think they just need to make 6 locks
thats it
stark geyser
They have AI Bots and no one complaining
Yeah, cuz it’s a separate mode that haves nothing to do with getting punished…
pastel crypt
Except Snow thief because you can run out of time or get grabbed by the neighbor because he use some glitch to stay neighbor before the elevator or something
Also, Snow thief is just a bagger
A bagger bot
young elm
This is freaking ridiculous no offense but what’s with all your… idea of poor quality, lately
pastel crypt
Well, what would you do?
stark geyser
Except Snow thief because you can run out of time or get grabbed by the neighbor...
What I mean by getting punished is penalty.
pastel crypt
Because honestly it’s called a penalty match so you would think it would be hard to get rid of but nope the only hard part is when the key fails to spawn and there practically no way to complete it
young elm
It takes a good amount of time to finish I think it’s a sufficient punishment
pastel crypt
You can speed run a penalty in like five minutes
young elm
Good for you I guess
It still wastes your time giving you a punishment
Because those 5 minutes could be in a real game
pastel crypt
Well who decided to leave during a match? That’s why you’re given it
I’m Making an example here
young elm
Cheaters
pastel crypt
Cheaters don’t get penalties they get banned
Penalties are just for people who leave matches
young elm
Which is very easily by passable
Should Xbox players be forced to play with cheaters on the Microsoft version of sn?
pastel crypt
And Sometimes you’re giving a penalty for no reason
young elm
Because Xbox players don’t have a task manager or a steam overlay
pastel crypt
you know there’s an option to disable crossplay right?
young elm
Still, a new player will be punished for no good reason because it’s probably on by default
pastel crypt
Oh, believe me it is
You have to turn it off manually and even if you do, you can never find a match because honestly who plays without crossplay
young elm
Your idea is just not good locking someone out from a game they paid for, for an entire day is stupid. They should just have an increasing timer locked out of match making like dbd or something
pastel crypt
That’s literally how the system works. If you give a penalty, you have to wait 12 or 24 hours
young elm
So you can’t match up until the timer is complete
pastel crypt
Sometimes the penalty is just longer than expected, and I have no clue if that’s a glitch or not
young elm
That’s literally how the system works. If you give a penalty, you have to wait 1...
No in dead by daylight it starts with like a 30 second lock out and then if you keep leaving I think it can become hours long
pastel crypt
We’re talking about SN here but ok
young elm
Just immediately being locked out a game you payed for for an entire day because you left one single match is extremely stupid in my opinion at least
pastel crypt
It’s more like half the day and honestly that’s not me saying that that’s just how the game is penalties or 12 or 24 hours and honestly even I think it’s kind of ridiculous
You leave a match you win that match or you wait 12 hours
And penalties can stack
So technically, you could have to wait 24 hours
Or even 36
young elm
That is ridiculous
It should start with like 15 minutes then multiply by 2 or something
Each leave
pastel crypt
You’re questioning the game logic here I’m just saying if you leave 3 matches on purpose that you would have to either win three penalty matches or wait 36 hours
If you think that’s ridiculous then you can simply just say the only person to blame is yourself because you left those matches again making an example
stark geyser
Some people say they have issues where they get penalty when their game crashes (iirc Steam players experience this), making them leave the match. If someone got a penalty and they have to go through all this hard bs in the penalty match because their game crashed, it would suck and just make them have a negative view of the game more.
young elm
You know I was gonna say that but I wasn’t sure if crashing games cause penalties
pastel crypt
Sometimes it does
stark geyser
You know I was gonna say that but I wasn’t sure if crashing games cause penaltie...
It’s 50/50
pastel crypt
This game is very unoptimized
The amount of times the game will crash or the frame rate drops to 5 FPS
vale parrot
Because Xbox players don’t have a task manager or a steam overlay
xbox players can evade penalty too
ocean wyvern
@pastel crypt
This would be a cool addition, however there is a ez step on PlayStation where you can remove penalties and play online games again like as if nothing ever happened.
So pretty much if this was added, people would just evade penalties so we dont know if this feature would match the success goal of SN
ocean wyvern
Literally every platform can evade penalties
If so what was the point of adding penalty games? @pastel crypt
pastel crypt
The point is to tell people to not leave matches, but if there’s a way to bypass it, then the devs need to fix it
ocean wyvern
All you really do is restart the game then you trick the game into thinking you did not leave
You can leave games without penalty by closing the game
ocean wyvern
The point is to tell people to not leave matches, but if there’s a way to bypass...
They probably would not have enough time to update the game anyhow
hasty hearth
Why is everyone so set on making penalty matches harder instead of ya know making the game not pain inducing