I know how to balance the game a bit more.

[shell karma]

We all hate when we’re finally picked as the neighbor, but then all of the kids start following you and spamming boxes. It’s annoying, unbalanced and unfair. I think I know a way to fix this. There is already the “Fear” effect, which you get from seeing the neighbor. You get a special camera effect, and the guest can force you to drop items, but that’s about it. What if when you have fear, you’d take damage? It would be none at first. So, the kids can still fight back.. but the longer it happens, the higher the heart beat of the kids will become, and you’ll start taking damage, progressively getting more and more. You have no choice but to run away to calm down and heal, giving the neighbor a chance to catch a kid.

And the best part, the brave with counter strike when charged doesn’t have fear, so brave is still.. well, brave!

[restive skiff]

Damn this one is actually good

[shell karma]

Thank you! 🙏

[grave crag]

This would be annoying for events

There at least needs to be a toggle

[shell karma]

Events can switch it off

Events are special scenarios that already modify the game, so it can easily turn it off for it

[thin dove]

Kids are already weak enough, They have stamina for throws, so they won't be able to just spam boxes, also, children are completely powerless until they collect all 3 perks on max. Neighbor are much stronger than kids, only Quentin can do something with him ( only when he got 3 perks on max)

[shell karma]

When all 5 kids are there, yes, they make your life hell 😭🙏 Neighbor is weak expect for taxidermist and maybe guest, but it doesn’t matter if everyone follows you

[thin dove]

situations in which all 5 children are gathered are almost impossible, even so there is a scary neighbor, or a clown who can fight even to a 5 children, and if you are skillful, you can even fight with 5 kids at the butcher

[shell karma]

Impossible!? What games are you playing 🧐 Maybe it’s impossible in some quick game lobbies because there’s always a few levels ones but when you actually play with skilled people, it’s a really common occurrence. I made this feedback because of the amount of times this has happened, as it’s very unbalanced 😔 also scary neighbor is definitely the weakest neighbor, butcher can’t deal with it as ranged is useless when everyone is following

[thin dove]

bro never use rage in scary neighbor

[shell karma]

rage is honestly only helpful in very specific cases

rage is way too short without a perk, but using that perk means you can’t use other perks like stun decrease

[thin dove]

scary neighbor will never die if you know how to play it correctly

[shell karma]

It’s not about dying?

it’s about being spammed boxes and not being able to win?

Rage is too short to be a benefit unless you have a perk

[thin dove]

bro for what you need stun decrease

also say you cant use sprint perk

[shell karma]

bro did you not even read what this feedback is for???

spamming boxes = stunned = no catch kids

that’s unbalanced

🤷‍♂️

[thin dove]

use rage for not be stunned

rage perk one of the best perks

[shell karma]

that’s your opinion

but like.. what about other neighbors?

[thin dove]

no, rage give you 50% stamina, make you invulnerability, and give you boost for throws

[thin dove]

clown have smoke

butcher can make damage with hook

taxidermist can one-shoot players

guest can steal items

[shell karma]

Taxidermist is op and shouldn’t even be in the game

[thin dove]

ghost just terrible

[shell karma]

They can drop. Kids easily pick it back up

[shell karma]

Butcher is ranged and not easy to use when kids are following, and they use saucepans

[thin dove]

they have stun after guest ability

[thin dove]

perk

[shell karma]

Clown is the only good neighbor to rival following kids fr fr 😭🙏

[shell karma]

Again, too short. You catch a kid, and someone else knocks them out of your hands 😔

[thin dove]

no, i mean make damage with hook, not grab kids with hook

[shell karma]

I’m talking about the guest

[thin dove]

my bad

[shell karma]

If 5 kids follow you, you can’t just damage one, they revive them

[shell karma]

Nah it’s fine 🙂

[thin dove]

stun other players

butcher has many health

just take they saucepan with hook and stun

[shell karma]

I think when there’s 5 kids, there just too many for that

🤷‍♂️

[void elm]

Remove the hackers, remove the inventor class 👌

[peak gate]

Rage is almost useless if perkless.

Or if the kids know how to counter and be patient enough to wait for it to be on cooldown

[thin dove]

Wow, as well how a butcher hook, or kids without perks on hands. In this game perk are not just help to improve ability, they need for normal use ability

[thin dove]

You can hit them

[fallen pilot]

Agreed

[robust river]

Whats wrong with the inventor?

[thin dove]

cheaters can craft many rifle

[robust river]

Its the anti cheat problem. Not the class problem

[thin dove]

I know, i just say what he mean

[void elm]

I play as Neighbor rather being cheated by x-ray players than being tortured with a cheated automatic unlimited rifle gun and painfully record the match I have to suffer to report.

[peak gate]

Ah yes, I can just hit the 5 kids who are box spamming☠️🙏

You talking just to talk bro

[thin dove]

You say they wait untill rage going down

[thin dove]

And i say hit for rage, not for kill

[peak gate]

Don’t even know what you mean by this, my point still stands about Rage almost being useless anyway.

[peak gate]

Yes, they do.

[thin dove]

You know that rage Rage going up when you get damage and dealing damage?

Let's imagine, kids throw 8 item to you, for rage activate you need 9, and kids not gonna throw item to you, because they wait untill rage going down, so you can throw item and get rage

[thin dove]

Just try play normal, like pick up items and throw to kid's, not just running to kids and pressing E

[peak gate]

I don’t play like that

I do it in stealth fashion

And again, doing that strategy doesn’t make the Rage automatically beneficial. It’s still gonna be the same. It’s just the easier way of getting rage quickly, not making it somewhat last longer.

[thin dove]

Why you think rage are useless

You can get rage infinitely, and never die

[thin dove]

You never win if you play like this

This game not about stealth

[peak gate]

Crazy how I literally won so many games as Regular Neighbor and Butcher just by playing it safe and using a brain instead of trying be aggressive and blindly running up against a group to spam E or square button.

Or just trying to fight a battle I clearly don’t have a chance in

[grave crag]

Heard they wanted to try to add jumping stamina and honestly I agree try hards need to be punished for ruining the game

[thin dove]

Nobody running in group to spam E, only newbies

[peak gate]

Nah, I’ve seen lots of red badge players with their characters being LVL 100 do that and then get sh** on right off the spot

[grave crag]

But what else could they do to balance this game?

[thin dove]

For what

[grave crag]

Idk

[peak gate]

That’s kind of a good idea

Key word: KIND OF

[grave crag]

I’m thinking the limit would be five before stamina would be used and there would need to be like a set timer between each jump before it counts as recharged

Because honestly, it would be better if you saw these try hards jumping around like they know what they’re doing and then suddenly stopping and slowing down because they ran out of stamina Maybe they should learn how to play the game correctly

[peak gate]

I think it would be good against kids since they be spamming the jump button while throwing items so unnecessarily. Like you don’t need to be doing all that at all…

[grave crag]

As for neighbor? Idk maybe just have his box throws do less damage and more stun

[thin dove]

Red rank are not mean that player are so skill, because you can just go in own game with your friends and give neighbor win, he got xp, level, bage but not skill

[thin dove]

For what you need jump stamina

[peak gate]

Read Kelly’s point

[thin dove]

I don't get it

[grave crag]

It’s a simple explanation It would stop players from box spamming the neighbor

[thin dove]

Jump?

[grave crag]

Because if they tried, they would run out of stamina therefore they couldn’t do anything

[thin dove]

Jumping stamina stop players from box spamming?

[grave crag]

Which is the whole point you’re not supposed to fight to begin with

It would stop them from jump box spamming because they would run out of stamina before they could even win a fight which you’re not supposed to do

[thin dove]

Bruh, no, why? You can just no jump when you spamming box

[grave crag]

How many matches have you seen people jump around while throwing things at the neighbor?

[thin dove]

I see me in every match

But i can dont jump when throw item

[grave crag]

Exactly That’s why there should be some sort of penalty for those who do

Because it’s not fair to the neighbor player

[thin dove]

Jump not fair?

[grave crag]

This game is supposed to be balanced and yet 50%. It’s just the kids in their favor

[thin dove]

Or spamming box

[peak gate]

I mean, yeah in a way. Most tryhards start hopping like their life depends on it when it comes to throwing stuff at the Neighbor.

[peak gate]

Which is very unnecessary to do because it literally makes you more easier to grab. At least that’s what it looks like in my perspective as the Neighbor when kids be doing that

[thin dove]

this is done so that the object flies higher and does not touch the floor or something from the floor

[peak gate]

I’m talking about hopping.

Not jumping at the same time you throw an object at the neighbor

[thin dove]

I too

Oh

But jump not give you speed or something else

It just stupid to add jump stamina

[grave crag]

I could definitely see this happening, but it also would say the community mostly just the tryhard who say that their game is is bad now because they can’t win fights… you’re not supposed to fight to begin with

You’re supposed to hit the neighbor and run It’s the whole point

[peak gate]

If anything, it’s more better to fight the neighbor without jumping. Makes it easier to aim and hit the neighbor without doing all the unnecessary movement shi like you’re trying to be the #1 Godspeed demon on COD.

[grave crag]

And don’t even even get me started with aim assist especially with jumping

[thin dove]

this is done so that the object flies higher and does not touch the floor or something from the floor

[grave crag]

Literally, I see so many people who talk smack about saying how good they are when they use Aim assist and jump around like a monkey

[peak gate]

Like I said, I’m talking about people overusing the jump button while fighting the neighbor. Not when they jump at the same time they throw an object. People who use the jump strategy correctly know what they are doing. But most, not so much.

[thin dove]

It is problem to neighbor or what?

[grave crag]

Jumping is a basic essential in this game, but when you use it in combat when you’re not supposed to fight

It’s a Hello Neighbor game for sake listen to the basic structure

[peak gate]

I find it a problem in general lol.

[grave crag]

And honestly, the fact that they might continue to make unnecessary nerfs to the game to make it balanced is enough of an excuse to say we made the game more fair when these characters didn’t need nerfs

Like imagine they Nerf bagger after giving him a health buff

150 health was too much. How about 120?

[peak gate]

Bagger is so underrated

[grave crag]

Honestly, it doesn’t really matter since taxidermist is a thing and even all that extra health doesn’t let him tank it not even with perks

[peak gate]

I started maining him again and I’m now at Lvl 27

Or lvl 29 I don’t remember

[grave crag]

But what exactly could they do to balance this game? Who needs adjustments who needs changes and why haven’t they gave Scout and brave a third ability already?

Like seriously

[peak gate]

Scout does NOT need a third ability, trust me😭🙏

[grave crag]

I’ve said this more times than I need to

They already nerfed her what’s wrong with giving her a third ability besides the only thing that would would be something Girl Scout related since she has nothing ability wise to show She is a Girl Scout

Besides her base skin and still Nerfing her is apparently balancing the game

At most, she’s just more easier to get caught now

[peak gate]

They nerfed her in the recent update? I felt no difference unless the nerf happened very long ago during the game’s release.

[grave crag]

They removed the stun for the slingshot and they made slight adjustments, but I couldn’t tell you what

Is she faster? No does she do more damage no does she take more stun now? No I really have no idea what they changed

But now I’m gonna stop talking since this is about how to balance the game

And honestly, jumping stamina which I heard apparently they wanted to add is my suggestion in this feedback post about balancing the game

[shell karma]

I think a lot of people need to remember: this game is supposed to be stealthy. You should not be able to fight the neighbor like you can now. This is what my suggestion is intended for in the first place.

[round iron]

What if, all the kids are together the longer it takes for more damage to take effect as you’re all together

[shell karma]

I think that there should be balancing - while making the game still make sense. Having fear raise your heart beat is more realistic than just making damage less when you’re together 🤷‍♂️

[inland portal]

Very noice

[shell karma]

why thank you 😇

[ivory crystal]

uhhhhh, dont remove inventor

you need him for snow thief

[ivory crystal]

this is just wrong

[ivory crystal]

the game isnt about stealth anymore

sure you can pull off some cool stealth moments sometimes (i play guest) but you cant play the game like that

[ivory crystal]

jump stamina is just stupid

[ivory crystal]

this is also stupid

[ivory crystal]

that pretty much is how your supposed to play the game now

the game is pretty much based around combat at this point

[ivory crystal]

get good, also maybe stop playing ghost

[fallen pilot]

What?
Why? No reason at all.

[fallen pilot]

Facts

[fallen pilot]

True

[fallen pilot]

I agree that he shouldn't be in the game ( even tho I like him), but not because his op ( BRO HE'S ONE OF THE WEAKEST NEIGHBOR IN THE GAME, THE ONLY NEIGHBOR THAT CAN BE WORSE THAN HIM IS GHOST)

[fallen pilot]

Big guest leap exist

[shell karma]

Taxidermist isn’t really weak if you know how to play as him well. He’s certainly op when you spam the gun and knock everyone over. He’s a no skill character, basically easy win 🤷‍♂️

[fallen pilot]

• sniff * * sniff *

Hmmmm... Smells like someone doesn't want to learn how to play the game!

( bruh 💀)

[fallen pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/fade-away-oooooooooooo-aga-emoji-crumble-gif-20008708

do I even need to say something...?

[thin dove]

Trust me i know how to play better than 80% community

[thin dove]

he is are weak, 3 hits with milk and he is die

or 5 without milk

[fallen pilot]

i know, but kids are not weak.
Why are you even think that

[fallen pilot]

i know

Im saying that HE'S weak

[thin dove]

because neighbor too much stronger

[fallen pilot]

(im still like him tho)

[fallen pilot]

Scary Neighbor is strong.
Clown - 50/50
Butcher - Not so strong, even with " longer hook " perk
Guest - Can be strong but you need practice
Ghost - no, unplayble neighbor
Taxidermist - Weak, just weak

[thin dove]

who are play not on scary neighbor bro

[fallen pilot]

bruh...

[thin dove]

tbh in this game only 2 playable neighbors

clown and scary

other neighbor just trash

[fallen pilot]

Maybe because playing one neighbor is boring?
Maybe i want other gameplay?

[thin dove]

They even have abilities that are not unique, made in 5 seconds

[fallen pilot]

In good hands Guest and Butcher can be strong
( but butcher need perk for longer hook)

[thin dove]

it is neighbor abilities problem, devs need to remade all neighbors (only scary and clown good)

[fallen pilot]

👀

[fallen pilot]

Clown is 50/50.

[thin dove]

guest are just annoying

he is not really strong

[fallen pilot]

Kids are not weak bruh

[thin dove]

butcher too, after nerf he weak

[fallen pilot]

they have so much more advantage

[thin dove]

clown one of the best neighbor

he is are really strong

[fallen pilot]

In good hands

[thin dove]

in good hands too

he is weak

[fallen pilot]

nah

[thin dove]

i promise you going to die on all neighbors that not clown or scary playing vs 5 journalist

[fallen pilot]

clown wouldnt handle it too

like how?

throwing smoke dont do much.
And if every 5 people together, there is no chance

[thin dove]

clown has smoke 20 on 20, in smoke you loose hp and also doesnt see anything, in camouflage form you can go into small objects and heal yourself, also clown can do doublejump or go through the ceiling

[thin dove]

oh

15 on 20

lol

it is even better

[thin dove]

15 cooldown, 20 Time how long has the smoke been going on

[fallen pilot]

double jump and celling: bug
smoke: not much damage, you can just walk off

[thin dove]

so you can make that smoke never end

[thin dove]

What if I grab kidand go up in smoke? How will they hit me?

[fallen pilot]

walk off

[fallen pilot]

auto aim, quentin can do emotes

[thin dove]

Not much damage? Smoke can kill

[fallen pilot]

WALK OFF

QUENTIN HAS DASH

[thin dove]

so?

What about the small rooms?

[fallen pilot]

so he can escape fastly

[thin dove]

If I'm not mistaken, a person caught in smoke cannot use emotions,

[thin dove]

just throw item on him

[fallen pilot]

smoke also has a long delay in explosion

[fallen pilot]

other quentin can save + brave exist

[thin dove]

what make him better, because the cooldown occurs immediately after the throw, and the duration of the smoke is only after the bomb explodes, so you can throw two bombs at once

[fallen pilot]

also there is chocolate with milk

[thin dove]

i said 5 journalist + knockdown brave

[thin dove]

also there is camouflage form

[fallen pilot]

bruh

[fallen pilot]

im just saying that she exist

[thin dove]

what you mean bruh?

[fallen pilot]

and?

[thin dove]

you can make yourself prop and hide

[fallen pilot]

• You grab the player
• teammate save them
• they run away
• no profit

[thin dove]

mix it with smoke

[fallen pilot]

yea you can

[thin dove]

It's very situational, you can't tell what they're going to do.

[fallen pilot]

but it doesnt make him strong

[thin dove]

i bet they dont run away

[thin dove]

it is

or some guest with gameplay on 3 buttons better?

[fallen pilot]

• they fight you
• you using smoke
• they walk off, and spamming boxes at you

[fallen pilot]

im not saying that guest better

[thin dove]

how i already say, t's very situational, you can't tell what they're going to do.

[fallen pilot]

in good hands he is strong

[thin dove]

so let's start from the abilities of the neighbors for comparison, and not such situations in the game

[fallen pilot]

and? you can't tell what they're going to do, so???

[thin dove]

and i dont say

i just say that smoke and camouflage very strong

and you ignore doublejump on clown

[fallen pilot]

by that logic brave is op just because she can save yourself

[fallen pilot]

THATS A BUG 💀

[fallen pilot]

they are okay, not strong

[thin dove]

no, because she can be knockeddown and this ability will disappear, as well as she no longer charges in battle

[fallen pilot]

just normal abilitys

[thin dove]

"game movement mechanics"

you can do doublejump on all neighbors but on clown its higher

and easier

[fallen pilot]

you contradict yourself

[thin dove]

why

[fallen pilot]

how?

[thin dove]

I said that this ability would be counteracted, I didn't say exactly how they would knockdown her

[thin dove]

by jumping and transform to kid in timing

It's a little hard to do.

[fallen pilot]

-judge characters by abilities and not by situations
-okay, then brave OP, according to your logic
-No, you can knock her down!
-It’s not a fact that she will be knocked down, it’s just a situation that she will be knocked down.

[fallen pilot]

THATS. A. BUG.

not how the game intended to play...

[thin dove]

brrruuhh I said this because the ability is lost if you knockdown her

[fallen pilot]

💀