The throwing stamina and neighbour holding on forever

[vapid mango]

This thing is a nightmare. Slowing down if you throw too much and you’ll mainly die.
Not to mention even throwing a small item and a big item take it away the same. Like a key card?!

[dark vale]

It’s basically impossible to solo a good neighbor now because after you use all your stamina you’re dead and makes any 1v1 scenario impossible unless you have the gun

[proper hornet]

Then dont attack neighbor if you are alone? SN isnt supposed to be a pvp game. SN is a stealth game. Thats why the stamina exist.

Even tho I agree that different items should take different amounts of stamina

[dark vale]

Then what am I supposed to do if a neighbor is just chasing me 24/7 after everyone else dies 🤷

It just becomes so much more difficult to even do anything

[rugged crown]

I understand that but still you need to defend yourself regardless of anything so you don't get caught.. that's the point of the fight system

[proper hornet]

If you are alone fighting is pointless. Just hit neighbor with 2 items and run away. For me, thats enough to escape him. And he cant chase you for eternity without losing you.

[rugged crown]

That's literally not the point there's many ways the neighbor can still get you so running away isn't always the answer to doing that..

[vapid mango]

But all Neighbours except for Scary Neighbour have some way of avoiding attacks and the stamina is piss annoying. Like Clowns item transformation, Butchers hook, Ghost Turing into ghost, Guest’s scary croak, and Taxidermist shotgun

[proper hornet]

You have a point. But remember what I said? To avoid encountering neighbor, you should be s t e a l t h y

[vapid mango]

Butchers tracefinder (cough cough)

[proper hornet]

You misunderstood me. What I meant is that you should be stealthy before encountering the neighbor. If he doesnt know where you are/ where you were, there is a smaller chance of the neighbor finding you

[vapid mango]

Aaaaaaaaah

[proper hornet]

Also. You should be prepared for the case of running away. (Saucepan, chocolate bars, chairs, etc)

[glossy pasture]

Say that to Guest and Ghost neighbor

The only way you can ever get saved in the 1v1 is when you’re getting chased by the neighbor, but then outplay him with a closet strategy.

[glossy pasture]

Not everyone haves that during that time tho

You can’t just expect being in a 1v1 so quick lol, that’s ridiculous

Plus the fact that in some cases, barely any of those items spawn

[proper hornet]

Guest: chocolate bars. Also, while guest is chasing you, just jump from side to side while running. Same with the butcher. Ghost: always have a lamp with you (not flashlight, lamp).

[proper hornet]

I almost never had trouble with finding chocolate bars, saucepans and chairs.

[proper hornet]

Its their fault?

[glossy pasture]

That’s YOU, not them. Don’t try to belittle/water down other players’ experiences and their complaints on things that are completely a problem by saying “wElL iTs tHeiR fAulT!” Sometimes doing any of these strategies you said don’t even save you for long.

“Well don’t fight the neighbor while you’re alone”

While that’s true, the problem is that you would randomly run into the Neighbor and least expect it, which would mean you have to defend yourself in some way to get away from him, right?

“Be stealthy before encountering the neighbor!” Haha, as if the red sonar button doesn’t exist. You can use closets to counter the sonar, but sometimes you’ll be in a area/room where there aren’t any closets and the Neighbor would be there for you already which honestly sucks.

“Jump side to side while running from the Guest” sorry but that is not doing anything against the Guest. I don’t know what type of player you’re going against that would have trouble catching a player who just hops side to side when they can just use the Scare Croak 😂

“Always have a lamp with you” that’s true and works most of the time, so I agree with you on that one.

[royal steppe]

Yea but the neighbor players discovered a way to remove the cooldown to transform into the neighbor

when they are on the way to do this they attack everyone who gets in their way

[proper hornet]

"While that’s true, the problem is that you would randomly run into the Neighbor and least expect it, which would mean you have to defend yourself in some way to get away from him, right?"
I think you misunderstood me. what i meant is dont try to KILL the neighbor if you are alone. Defending yourself is alright, and increases your survival chances.
"Haha, as if the red sonar button doesn’t exist. You can use closets to counter the sonar, but sometimes you’ll be in a area/room where there aren’t any closets and the Neighbor would be there for you already which honestly sucks."
Yeah. The sonar exists but the neighbor will have to take some time to run to the place where you were. and I think you will have some time to leave it or just hide somewhere.
"sorry but that is not doing anything against the Guest. I don’t know what type of player you’re going against that would have trouble catching a player who just hops side to side when they can just use the Scare Croak"
I kinda agree with this one now. I Apologise for saying that, I didnt take the fact that people might not play as brave and have counter strike on (brave is my main). So yeah, running away from guest is a little tricky. BUT once again, chocolate bars exist, and they can help you a lot while running away.

[proper hornet]

I dunno. I have never really seen people doing that (maybe because this is the 1st time I heard about it).

[royal steppe]

Yea watch out for these players

[glossy pasture]

About the red sonar part. While yes, the Neighbor has to take the time to get there, you have to think about what Neighbor it is. If it’s a Guest or Ghost Neighbor, you’re cooked because the Guest with his very fast pounce ability and the Ghost with his very fast Spirit traversal ability (plus phasing through walls), it’s like a very high chance the Neighbor would be there already in a second. Having chocolate bars to get ready to run from the Guest and having lamps to counter the Ghost Neighbor can be helpful, but not always helpful enough to the point you have a chance of winning alone if the Neighbor player is very smart. I feel like they should add some limits to the Neighbor if there’s one kid left if possible.

But I do now understand what you mean on the “don’t fight the Neighbor” I agree with you on that one.

[proper hornet]

Guest can't really use his jump ability in small rooms (because he will cling on every wall and closet). It will still take it some time for him to get there. While Ghost neighbor is the best at getting to the player's location, We need to remember about the lamp

[proper hornet]

Yeah, I should have made it more clear. apologies

[glossy pasture]

I mentioned the fact that the lamp can be helpful.

[proper hornet]

Ikr

[full nebula]

fr, they should just take it back like it was 1 year ago

[vapid mango]

What happened here?!

[vapid mango]

On mobile it was added not too long ago

[glossy pasture]

Nothing, just a discussion

[lost yarrow]

It never be a stealth game when they release Taxidermist, also it's already impossible to solo win with Key Crows addded and Neighbor camping the basement door tactic!!! The game is so unbalance!!!!

[proper hornet]

"It never be a stealth game when they release Taxidermist"
Yes. Taxidermist is hard to win against, especially if you are alone. But it is possible to win against him. The tactic against him is mostly the same as in the other cases. Chocolate bars and saucepans. and when you dont have these, its still possible to trick him by hiding in a closet or hiding behing a corner, crouching etc
"it's already impossible to solo win with Key Crows addded"
Im sorry, but i dont understand what you are talking about on this one. The crow helps you to find keys. If you are talking about neighbor going there, then (as for me), its very rare.
"Neighbor camping the basement door tactic"
Same thing as in the taxidermist section, just try to trick him somehow, use chocolate (and maybe milk), etc.

[glossy pasture]

It is NOT rare for Neighbor players to go for crow marks the key, trust me. Maybe it’s because I’m mostly in lobbies where players are smart and good at the game.

For the neighbor camping basement, distracting him can work if you use emotes such as “block that door!” or “Help!”. You can also find the gun around the map (or craft one if the Inventor) to shoot and temporarily kill the neighbor. But there are times where both ideas don’t work out at all due to the fact that some Neighbors don’t fall for the bait/distractions from emotes, or you used/found all the guns around the map to kill the neighbor (plus already finding half the gears around the map and now not having enough just from crafting a gun a lot 😭). They really need to add something in the game to discourage the neighbor from camping in one spot to make the gameplay interesting for once instead of just going through that most ridiculous and tedious moment where the neighbor just camps the basement like a wuss. ☠️

[proper hornet]

I mentioned that its rare for me. Im pretty sure there are other ways to distract neighbor btw. Ive seen a lot of people standing on an opening basement door, and then they hit the neighbor and run into it

[glossy pasture]

What if it’s not a opening basement though? That’s the problem