Reboot The Game

[light cloud]

This game desperately needs a reboot or 2.0 update because it has been neglected for the past 3 years and still has so many flaws despite having been released 4 years ago. Things like the LE still being in beta or the LE+/Game Editor being teased like 3 years ago and still not released are just getting annoying at this point. We waited a year for the graphics overhaul, and it's just a mix of old and new HN2 assets. Talking about the art style, I don't get why it had to be HN2 and not a completely unique style. I don't dislike HN2's style; I think it looks just fine in HN2. I just prefer the HN1 style in SN; I don't see why we can't have both. Also, why do HE and HND get unique art styles and assets, but the game that is the most replayable, multiplayer, on every platform, ambitious, and popular doesn't? This game deserves, like, all of the budget. The Journalist and Taxidermist are also just bad additions because both of them don't fit into the game. It also just isn't a good social deduction game currently because it's heavily combat-based. It's weird how stamina gets added for Kids to discourage them from fighting, but then the Taxidermist gets added in the same update and just guns down everyone. It's also weird how umbrellas that have the ability to make you glide are from HN1 despite it being a HN2 update, or there still being HN1 leftovers.
These are just some of many other annoying inconsistencies.
 
And please listen to feedback and suggestions more, because there are so many cool suggestions with positive feedback that never make it into the game.
 
In conclusion, the art style needs to be fixed, the programming needs to be fixed, the balancing needs to be fixed, the sound system, the lighting—just everything needs to be fixed. Carry over what you need to and completely reboot the game. If you make a really good trailer and promote the game, then you might have a chance at making this a popular asymmetrical horror game because it has a lot of potential.

[willow quiver]

best feedback

[vernal plover]

Excellent!

[timber idol]

good feedback

[light cloud]

thank you very much

[glacial trout]

or just we let rbo take his place

not gonna dislike but idk

[light cloud]

why tho? why would you let this game die and get replaced even tho it has a lot of potential

like, its good

just in a very rough state

rbo sounds very good, but why cant they both coexist?

[willow quiver]

@true drum

[light cloud]

its not like theyre handled by the same devs

[glacial trout]

idk

just that evolution

i had good memories with sn

like i got all my friends on it

but well it's dead and unless there is a miracle

it will stay dead

[light cloud]

thats basically what i created this post for

[glacial trout]

i know

but forever

💗

[timid coyote]

THIS

I agree

[willow quiver]

Did you also put your Feedback on the survey?

the one if https://tblink.co/SN_Survey

[willow quiver]

because there you would have more luck being seen

[timber crater]

fr tho

[willow quiver]

nutella

[wide estuary]

SN can be it's own game, but it really needs the support in order to do so

And in the past 3 years, it's just been neglected despite having the most potential in the franchise.

[timid coyote]

^^^

TinyBuild funds or updates commercial failures mostly

[wide estuary]

Which is depressing, there have been so many games that TB has under their belt that have had hella potential, not even just the HN games. But alot of them are no longer playable, which is unfortunate

[vale sable]

I'm just annoyed that a lot of funding went to HE and not to SN. And you can see where it has taken HE and all

If it went to SN, imagine what this game will be like? Or imagine this game gets regular playtest and surveys?
It should really turn out well, HE is like one of those games where they put characters from the franchise and put a Hello on the start.

So I legit agree a lot with this post

[timid coyote]

HE isn’t even that good

It’s just Banjo Kazooie Nuts and Bolts with HN slapped on it

[vale sable]

Exactly

[timber crater]

legit it's just scrap mechanic

[lyric bear]

I was literally thinking about this

[formal girder]

You know now that you think about it you know who what this game needs? It needs to Nerf and alter clowns camouflage so you can’t reach higher areas with the jump

[dusty wagon]

as a clown user i agree

[wide estuary]

Why? Why on earth would they nerf clown when players are doing unintended things with his ability?

Keen word is unintended, all they need to do is patch the spots

[dusty wagon]

holo needs to fix clown, not nerf btw

like noclip with clown is too op

[formal girder]

The simple fix is changing how his hit box works in the air so he would simply fall back to the ground after reverting not gain higher air time and unfairly using unintentionally shortcuts

[vague robin]

Pretty sure clown works by not being able to transform out of prop form when the roof or barrier above him is too low

And thats what the bug is

That isn't the case anymore so he can just clip through things

[formal girder]

Maybe they should change it so he can’t revert in the air?

Idk I’m not exactly sure what causes him to gain more air time then simply falling back down

[vague robin]

Actually I know this is the case because one time I went into the fridge as a pickle jar and my friends shut the door and put a box in front of me, trapping me in there so I couldn't get out

This was before it was broken

[dusty wagon]

but the clown itself is a "cheater"?

[wide estuary]

This doesn't mean he literally can do stuff like this in the game. It's just some flavor text for the description, it doesn't really mean anything.

[dusty wagon]

i have an idea for clown to get fixed, there's must be a hitbox below the second floor/roof that triggered to cancel reverting if there's clown player trying to clip

you know what i mean

[vague robin]

For clown to be fixed they just need to fix this

Clown was fine before its just a bug

Whatever code that's supposed to check for this isn't doing its job

[timid coyote]

If they ever reboot the game they should get Third Party Studios to help and a more funding

[wise crown]

Peak feed

[vale sable]

Generally one of the most well said feedback posts I've seen in a good while

[ornate vine]

Best Feedback,hope devs really do it....

BUT....I thik they'are not 😦
And this is sad...

[heavy sail]

This feedback cannot be contradicted. I completely agree with everything said in it.

[brittle turret]

To Be Honest, The game as it is now, its a buggy half-realistic art-style that has OP characters and cheaters every where, i actually prefer the older versions at this point

thumbs up from me

[willow quiver]

you have to put all the options because this concerns the whole game

[willow quiver]

and in addition the Devs should also remove the dances because it has nothing to do with the game

[proven ginkgo]

Yes this are best

[light cloud]

thank yall so much

i appreciate the positivity

genuinely

[willow quiver]

@light cloud did you see this message?

[vague robin]

30 upvotes in a day. Now let's see if you can get to 81 upvotes

[willow quiver]

but do the developers look at the feedback?

[vague robin]

The developers do look at feedback

[willow quiver]

so since this return is one of the most appreciated, it will surely be accepted?

[vague robin]

Ones that have a lot of upvotes are most likely to be added or considered

[willow quiver]

and you think that this feedback has enough likes to be seen and even accepted?

[vague robin]

I don't know

[lyric bear]

They ultimately need to reboot this game if they want it to be popular again

Alot of people I talked to said they loved the old game and that it was mid now which is a little insulting but

[vague robin]

Also making a post basically saying to remake the game for the most part is a heavy ask

Even if it gets a lot of likes ita something that the devs have to be willing to do

If they can do it

[lyric bear]

Let's hope they do

It's in need of a reboot

[vague robin]

It would be beneficial to the game in my eyes its just not a simple thing to do

[lyric bear]

My idea of a reboot was secret neighbor 2 since hello neighbor 2 is a think

It already has the art style

All they need to do is change gameplay lobby and shop to something new and it should be fine

[light cloud]

like i said in my post, they dont need to redo everything

"carry over what you need to"

ui and shop are fine

[lyric bear]

I didn't say everything I didn't say kids and the neighbor

[light cloud]

they just need to fix rarity and all

[lyric bear]

And when I mean shop I mean the background

So as with lobby

Maybe a new looking backyard

[light cloud]

i doubt it honestly

it got a lot of likes, but its chill now i think

[willow quiver]

but in any case their efforts will be rewarded because the game will be known if they do it but it will take time and that is logical

[light cloud]

another thing they should consider adding is public playtests

its just so much easier for polishing

the players will always find something the devs didnt

[lyric bear]

I agree

[willow quiver]

I think that if the Devs restart the game, they will redo the whole game because that is precisely the goal of a reboot to redo everything so that it is better

but I think the developers know that restarting the game is the only solution because if they continue with their normal update the game will be even more broken than before and there will be fewer and fewer players

[light cloud]

yes, but the issue with sn isnt the ui or shop, its that it doesnt get enough attention and budget

if it aint broke dont fix it

i want a reboot not for the sake of being a reboot

i want a reboot that fixes the stuff from the past

[willow quiver]

yes I know but if the Devs do that they will say to themselves that they could redo everything for a good restart

[lyric bear]

That's just a update solely built on bug fixes

[light cloud]

sns issues arent just the bugs

[lyric bear]

Never said they were

[willow quiver]

the interfaces will change since he had planned it in all cases

[light cloud]

you imply it by saying that a reboot would just fix bugs

i listed things i want from a sn reboot at the end of my post

[lyric bear]

When u say u want a reboot that FIXES stuff it makes people think ur pertaining to bugs and glitches

[light cloud]

how? i literally wrote what i want to be fixed in my post

did you read it

[lyric bear]

Yes

But when u say u don't want all this other stuff changed

And u want issues in the past to be fixed

It sounds like ur talking about bugs

[light cloud]

fixing things isnt just bugs lmao

[lyric bear]

Again sounds like a bug fix update

With some extra things

[light cloud]

i listed what things need to be fixed, and if ppl think that i only mean bugs then they just didnt read my post

[lyric bear]

It wouldn't make sense to call it a reboot more of just a update

[light cloud]

1. the whole point of a reboot is to fix stuff from the past, cuz why else would you reboot the game

2. my post literally says reboot/2.0 update

[lyric bear]

Uh no a reboot is isn't just fixing things from the past

[light cloud]

then what is it

[lyric bear]

It's making the game a new as well

[light cloud]

a reboot is just starting completly from scratch

[lyric bear]

When u reboot a game think of it as buying a new car or replacing parts of a old car with new ones that are completely different

[light cloud]

what else would you wanna include in a reboot

[lyric bear]

New ui

Cause then it's just gonna look like the old game

[light cloud]

nope. games like fall guys got a reboot and still use their old stuff

[light cloud]

whats wrong with that?

[lyric bear]

That didn't even seem like a reboot tbh

[wide estuary]

Not entirely, some games just build off of what they have, but change core systems around or rework them.

[lyric bear]

People will still not be interested

They will be like Ehh this game is still the same

That's why it's important to change the lobby ui and stuff like that

[light cloud]

ok, the graphics got changed, are people interested in the game now?

[lyric bear]

No

[light cloud]

exactly

[lyric bear]

Because it still has alot of the same stuff

That's like painting the car without giving it new parts

[light cloud]

it doesnt lol. its a completly different artstyle

[lyric bear]

I said stuff

As in gameplay

[light cloud]

you literally only metioned the ui

[lyric bear]

Alot of people I played with quit because the game felt repetitive

[light cloud]

so how is new ui gonna change that

[lyric bear]

.

[light cloud]

current one is fine

[lyric bear]

Only ui huh?

[light cloud]

oh, with the gameplay i agree

but we were talking about the ui and shop for the past 10 or so minutes

[lyric bear]

Because u decided to pick at that

[light cloud]

obv it needs something new

cuz it was the only thing i disagreed with

[lyric bear]

The game just needs more to feel like a game

Like maybe a mode solely built on chilling and hangout

So emotes aren't only used as toxic

And u can show off ur skins and stuff

[light cloud]

yep. why would you change things that dont need change in a reboot? it would just be more risky, because ppl might prefer the old ui over the new one

if it aint broke dont fix

[lyric bear]

That ui is buggy af

[light cloud]

literally where

its fine

[lyric bear]

Shop

U can't scroll sometimes and u have to spam it

[light cloud]

and if its buggy, fix it

[lyric bear]

U can't stitch a tape to something and expect it not to peel off

[light cloud]

yea, but then u fix it, not change the whole ui to a new look lmao

the ui itself looks fine

shop needs some changes tho

[lyric bear]

It needs small change is all I'm trying to say

[light cloud]

and the skins rarity too

[lyric bear]

Def that

Shop should and lobby should get a new background

Maybe them being somewhere else in the backyard

[light cloud]

i definetly would like to see changes for the lobby

[lyric bear]

The rv van for shop just isn't like right

Maybe inside it yeah but

[light cloud]

this looks sick

[lyric bear]

Ong

[light cloud]

a friend of mine got this

its an old bug from halloween 2020

[wide estuary]

Eh, too clutter imo

[lyric bear]

It's a cocept

[wide estuary]

Doesn't look bad, but it feels like there's too much there

[lyric bear]

Concept

[light cloud]

i agree, but the van could stay

[wide estuary]

it's a bug man, not really a concept

[light cloud]

things like the table being carried over from the shop make it feel cluttered

[lyric bear]

No he is using the picture as a concept

[light cloud]

what i would also like is if the neighbor customization wasnt in the backyard

if you select the neighbor you will go to his house

there you can customize

[lyric bear]

Yeah

And it could be his neighbor room

[wide estuary]

Yeah I always thought how cool it would be if there was seperate screens for the classes

[lyric bear]

And the rv can for the explorer side could be moved to the side

[wide estuary]

Like, the kids are just right outside the Neighbor's home or something, while the Neighbor is in his house preparing for the invasion

Maybe a new character select screen

[lyric bear]

And then add something ( idk what) there

[wide estuary]

UI could use some updating after all

All they really did was just make new "effects"

[lyric bear]

Yeah that character selection it's a little weird

[light cloud]

i wish they would make it more similar to the sn font

but current is fine ig

[willow quiver]

weird bug

[timid coyote]

The characters need new unique animations (idle losing deaths etc) if a reboot comes

For example when a kid is caught the neighbor throws them to a wall they spin around land on the ground and burst into missing papers

[light cloud]

um, i dont get it lol

but they definetly need to replace the stock animations with custom made ones

[timid coyote]

Mixamo sucks

[timid coyote]

Actually this would be better for a knock out anim

They spin around and fall to the ground for a few minutes not able to move

Alternate one for when there jumping or running would be them spinning in the air and then falling to the ground

[light cloud]

way too cartoony, imo

i get its a cartoon game, but it still feels too goofy

[timid coyote]

I would love to see them add the shark a tron from HN1 or something would be cool

[light cloud]

this might contradict my own post (i said the umbrellas from hn1 being in a hn2 styled game brings inconsistencies), but the shark o tron is just so iconic that it needs to be added at some point

maybe as some kind of puzzle where it swims around and can knock you easily, so you would have to freeze the water alongside with it

generally, i think puzzles would be cool

would make the matches less repetitive

[timid coyote]

And if you try and swim with it it would go underwater for a second

Then it follows the player

[light cloud]

alongside adding character stats, which would encourage different playstyles (made a post about that too)

[timid coyote]

Tho they wouldn’t be able to go underwater and would only be allowed to swim until the shark o tron drags them down the water

[vague robin]

Sponky and I both had really good ideas for how the lawn o tron could work

(Not shark a ton but close enough)

[light cloud]

tell me about it

[wide estuary]

here's a screenshot from when we talked about it

[light cloud]

that would be very cool

maybe have this be something the neighbor needs to unlock

the lawn o tron would be locked up somewhere and the neighbor would need to find a key to get it

or just have it be part of the random traps and it would get more aggressive depending on what level u have the traps on (low - help!)

[glacial trout]

idk why but i feel this will not be made

even with more than a hundred of likes

[willow quiver]

if we keep talking about a reboot, the devs will see that the community really wants it and the Devs will do it

since the FeedBack the community has been talking a lot about a reboot for SN

so at the moment there is a chance that it could happen

[heavy sail]

I think there is no need to be negative repeat that they will never that and never this.. And this feedback is really Opionion of comunity I think, so lets hope.

[glacial trout]

I prefer RBO than SN already so

[light cloud]

40 likes babyyy

thanks to everyone

[modern plume]

Whats Ui?
Also you forgot to add “delete otto and quentin” 🤓☝️

[vernal plover]

[light cloud]

kind of implying it here

[wide estuary]

it has been confirmed that they are not leaving the game

i would've been fine with the addition of Quentin if he was a kid or something

Otto, he is just a bad addition no matter what really

[timid coyote]

They only put HN2 content not for lore reasons but to market HN2

[brittle turret]

My Honest Opinion on SN is, that the game was more enjoyable in the alpha stages, after the HN2 art style change which i thought was good, instead it was just a cover up, on the bugs and OP AI, They Need to do something with this game to fix it, take as long as you want, just make the game a social deduction game and actually hide the fact that your the neighbor, with the addition with Otto, you can just kill every kid in 2 seconds

[willow quiver]

I think the only way for the game to make any noise is to completely redo it and I know if that's planned it will be complicated but at least they will stop making unnecessary updates that don't help.

I would even prefer there to be no updates for a while so they can redo the whole game

[modern plume]

Oh ok

[modern plume]

But no one told me whats Ui

[light cloud]

user interface

[mystic orbit]

I agree, Secret Neighbor deserves to get its very own artstyle, this would be so much better

And tbh, I know this is off topic, but RBO is legit a full copy of hn

The house and stuff

Which doesn't look that much enjoyable to me

Hello neighbor 1/2, should stay with their own artstyles, they shouldn't be copied. Secret Neighbor also deserves its own artstyle just how hello engineer got one

[pallid summit]

tbh I don't really like RBO

this is the best feedback tho

we need SN Remastered

[heavy sail]

Feedback with a 52 likes, and we go on

[light cloud]

holy shit 53 likes

it goes so fast genuinely thanks

[timid coyote]

We needa get to 100 🔥

[misty bobcat]

Please to every SN fan/player give a like on this post if we will get a 100 likes the devs just must do it
We can do this we can show Holo and TinyBuild how much we care about this game
Rebot Secret Neighbor 💪🔥

[willow quiver]

you're right, we need to show them that this game can get a second chance by being rebooted 👍

[willow quiver]

Yes it would be good

[formal girder]

The question is if they did this would they refund players who bought skins or would you keep them like nothing changed?

[heavy sail]

Maybe they just give back the coupons to this players ?

[pallid summit]

What if they reboot the game and make it even worse

[pallid summit]

You would probably keep them

[mystic orbit]

And about quentin and taxidermist, I'm pretty sure it's okay to keep them in game

At least in my opinion

[willow quiver]

well then SN it's over

but since the 3 million were not even used for SN frankly I have no hope

[light cloud]

they should base the reboot off suggestions amd feedback

[pallid summit]

That's what I was thinking

[modern plume]

What does that mean ;-;

[vague robin]

Basically the icons and information displayed on your screen when you play a game

For example your inventory is a user interface

Or on mobile the buttons you press to controll the game would be part of the user interface

So in SN the UI (user interface) would be the item slots that show on your screen and the ability icons, and the little player card in the bottom left corner

Just to give an example incase I didn't explain it well

[light cloud]

might be unpopular, but another thing they need to consider is reducing the amount of platforms sn is on

they already struggled getting out updates when xbox and steam were the only available platforms, and its also hard making updates regulary

until they have a bigger team, i think the only platforms should be steam, xbox, and ps4

[formal girder]

Bad idea it. may take a lot longer time to release updates on all platforms with the small team but cutting off players who already bought the game on switch and downloaded it on IOS would be unfairly lose the game they paid for or downloaded

[light cloud]

like with the skins, they would get their purchases back

they need to consider removing some platforms sooner or later anyways because of the engine switch they will probably do

[formal girder]

I mean the entire game as a whole being completely taken off the store front with people who bought it would lose access and not everyone can afford the more expensive consoles

[light cloud]

i know, but the quality between updates has just varied between good and bad since switch, ios, and ps sn released

they need to make their team bigger

id rather wait out for them to get more members and get consistent updates than stick with one for 2 years

[wide estuary]

engine switch? where is proof that they'll be switching engines?

[willow quiver]

Yeah

This could be a solution until they expand their team

[light cloud]

i cant really remember, but last year unity said something about a new rule or something which would make it hard developing sn with.

they dont have to switch engines, but it would be for the best and most likely

[wide estuary]

that was like a year ago, that is no longer the case

dude who made that decision got fired and the rule was revoked

[light cloud]

oh really? thats good

[willow quiver]

and when was this rule put in place?

[willow quiver]

besides if they do a reboot they would have to redo the interfaces because they have been there since the beta

[light cloud]

not necessarily

[willow quiver]

the interfaces are not great

they have been there for a while and I think we should make way for a new interface

[light cloud]

i think it looks fine, but a new ui that fits the game more would definetly be cool

[willow quiver]

Yeah

[willow quiver]

And for people who like the FeedBack, you have to put a like on the first emoji to show the dev how many people like this FeedBack

The bagger emoji

[willow quiver]

@light cloud can you pin this message?

[light cloud]

idk how

[light cloud]

i should prob pin my feedback post since you have to scroll over 300 messages to get to it

if i knew how tho

[willow quiver]

ah

[pallid summit]

we need every secret neighbour player in this server to like this post

WE NEED SN REMASTERED

[timid coyote]

They need to fix the Roblox port, too. The Roblox port has potential to be a nice demo to attract new fans to the main game.

While also garnering money.

But anyone who touches the port and faces things like a teleporting clown, awful parkour, slippery platforms, and an impossible-for-kids-to-win map will associate Secret Neighbor Original with those game-breaking bugs.

I do not believe the Roblox port should get a major update. For example, Quentin, the new artstyle, the Taxidermist, the Guest, and the Ghost do not need to be in the game. It's a free port, after all. However, there does need to be a quality of life update.

Some of the glitches are just not okay. Hell, even just fixing the impossible-to-win glitch on The Space and only that would be nice. It's promising with how many new players are attracted to the port. That's like, 300 new players.

[light cloud]

ios and roblox are by far their most profitable ones

because theyre just very accessable

theyre really missing out on roblox

[wide estuary]

300 is such a low playerbase but for SN it's like the equivalent of 1K players 💀

well, it's not super low, but still

[timid coyote]

Lol, yeah.

[light cloud]

edited the post a bit

[willow quiver]

they are not the same developer

[timid coyote]

I know. But the publisher is the same.

[willow quiver]

Yes but that doesn't concern Hologryph

[timid coyote]

I never said it did, but Hologryph and TinyBuild both can see this.

[light cloud]

where else would we report bugs or provide feedback/suggestions for that version

[wary pebble]

Roblox version should have never happened like it’s not even doing well

[light cloud]

its not doing well because they dont update it

otherwise it definetly would have the biggest playerbase by far

due to roblox being really accessable

[timid coyote]

I feel like I'm the only one funding it.

[wide estuary]

what does that even mean

[smoky lichen]

I don t wanna pay 20$ again

[dusty wagon]

wdym bruv

[smoky lichen]

For secert neighbor 2

[dusty wagon]

bro what are u saying😭

he means to reboot this game, not making sn 2

that will be cringe too if there's secret neighbor 2

[smoky lichen]

👍🏿

[dusty wagon]

he means 2.0 update, not secret neighbor 2

[smoky lichen]

Yes

That s secret neighbor 2

What do you think minecraft 2.0 will be?

[dusty wagon]

#off-topic

[dusty wagon]

no

[smoky lichen]

It s not off topic , it s an example for our subject

[dusty wagon]

it is

[smoky lichen]

Sure..

Bye

[light cloud]

no, a 2.0 update

where they just redo stuff

not a sequel

[dapper shell]

this feedback is too good

the Devs defo need to do this

I went from one of my favourite games to literally playing 1 game after 2 and a half months and i still get bored

i still remember the updates in 2020 and 2021 they were amazing now this game is just straight up dead

[willow quiver]

well in the end it's the same since the goal is for SN to be redone

SN 2.0 Uptade 2.0 is the same thing, and the only difference is that the 2.0 update means you don't need to pay again to play the games

[light cloud]

a sequel isnt redoing things

theres no reason for a sequel

[willow quiver]

Yes I know

[willow quiver]

I'm just talking about the fact that SN 2.0 and Uptade 2.0 are ultimately the same thing.

[light cloud]

no? a 2.0 update is basically a reboot

what youre talking about is a sequel

[willow quiver]

well a reboot is almost the same thing as an SN 2.0 in the sense that everything is new

except the lore

[light cloud]

a reboot doesnt just add new things

it redos stuff

a reboot

[willow quiver]

yes, I know, that's part of what a reboot is

[light cloud]

it mostly just redos and does new takes on older stuff

[willow quiver]

Yes I know but I think they will add new things and make SN an Infiltration game

for the reboot to be good, they will surely add new things

[pallid summit]

same bruh

[pallid summit]

fr

[pallid summit]

basically a "Remaster"

[light cloud]

im not saying they wont add new things, but the majority will just be fixing old stuff

they already have enough work to do when fixing old things

[willow quiver]

Yes I know I didn't say the opposite

I'm just talking about the fact that at the same time, to make a good impression on future players, they will surely add new things

[light cloud]

oh, they will definetly add new things in future updates for the reboot

but prob not when it just launched

adding new things just open ups new things needing to fix

so they should just focus on polishing up the game and fixing old stuff before adding new things

[willow quiver]

You're right

it's true that as you say the most important thing is to repair and improve certain things

before adding anything new

[light cloud]

how can i pin messages

i want to pin my post because its hard to look at it now with the 300+ messages

[willow quiver]

normally you have an option when you do the three little points

Or ask a Modo to pin it for you

[fluid night]

they shold make sn 2 insted of updating this.

[vale sable]

Generally I really don't think Secret neighbor needs a sequel, if it gets updated instead of making a new game that would be better for the community.
So we don't have to pay again, and so everyone can keep the game that they already have.

Plus making a whole new game will cost a lot more money, time, and resources

and it can fail

[fluid night]

i trust tinny build to make it good.

[spare jasper]

Hologryph is the one who's making SN and they are (from what i recall) a small team

[fluid night]

it wold give money too.

[spare jasper]

I don't agree with the whole sequel thing, especially if this game has features that aren't finished yet

LE for example.

[vale sable]

Don't want false promises to settle in again, we have learnt from that

But generally I do agree Imbir

[fluid night]

can finish in second.

https://tenor.com/view/hello-neighbor-noisy-hello-neighbour-neighbor-neighbour-gif-233887133729911524

[vale sable]

It's not as easy as you might think

[fluid night]

cant be all hard.

[spare jasper]

I'm a game developer, it's not that simple especially if you're looking out for bugs.

[fluid night]

[dusty wagon]

no

that would be cringe

and i don't want to waste my money for sn 2

[wary pebble]

It wouldn't be cringe just unnecessary

[willow quiver]

Bruh do you want to pay for the game again?

lol

Frankly deceives you

Forget a SN 2 it will never happen but a 2.0 update is largely possible compared to what you want

And you didn't need to put a thumbs down emoji lol

since this feedback is there to help SN

[timid coyote]

I gave the Roblox port money.

[wide estuary]

Personally, I wouldn't buy anything in the Roblox port, because imo that is a terrible financial decision but that's just my take and it's your money at the end of the day.

[timid coyote]

I gave the Roblox port money.

[light cloud]

i wouldnt buy anything in roblox in general

[dusty wagon]

cringe and unnecessary

[dusty wagon]

same like wasting money

[vale sable]

The amount of likes is pretty insane for a SN post

[verbal acorn]

whats cringe about it

[dusty wagon]

weird why would sn needs sequel, its cringe for me but i think not for you?

[verbal acorn]

why would you find it cringe?

[light cloud]

fr. i hope the likes will make them consider this

[verbal acorn]

are you aware of what cringe means?

[dusty wagon]

i don't really know bcs im not an english speaker but that shows my disgust feeling?

[verbal acorn]

kinda

[timid coyote]

I wanted to support it for it to be a good product.

A game without money isn't going to get far.

The only reason it was a waste of money is because they didn't do anything with it, so I am no longer giving them any kind of revenue.

The same problem has been going on for months. They aren't utilizing the money they make off the port, so why give more? It'd be a waste if I continued buying their stuff.

It's funny to subvert expectations with the Butcher, though. Roblox players never see the Butcher in lobbies ever.

[wide estuary]

I would say it was a failed port, and it could still be considered as such, but it had potential. Roblox is an easily accessible platform on any device; PC, Xbox, Playstation, iOS, you name it. And with it being so accessible, that meant they could have a large audience to work with. Sadly, they didn't exactly pick the best devs, and now the port is just collecting dust after only just one content update.

I wouldn't be surprised if they cut development for the project, I mean they haven't talked about the port since the QOL #1 update. I could be wrong, but at the same time you'd think something would've happened by now in terms of content or some sort of announcement talking about the future plans and state of the game, but nope, nothing. Nothing at all.

[timid coyote]

Depressing, really. I've had fun times on it.

When I wasn't being screwed over by some BS, that is.

[willow quiver]

@west surge why wouldn't it be good if the game was restarted with a lot less bugs?

Bruh

[willow quiver]

Gg @light cloud 70 Likes

[rotund wraith]

and for this update they should release it at the same tule for every platform

[light cloud]

yea, but it would take a LONG time

but i want them to not rush it

so everyone can enjoy it

[spare jasper]

The thing is, they should show the community if they're working on a update this big. If i recall they said in the past that they wanted to surprise people with some features, but I think it'd be better if holo shows that 'hey, we're working on a big update. here's a teaser to hype you up.' rather than staying quiet.

or possibly let people playtest again like in map 2?

[light cloud]

they could keep the new things theyre adding as a surprise, but if they, for example, change something for one of the classes, i think they should let us know so we can give feedback on it.

and public playtesting would be good, but i think they just need new playtesters

[spare jasper]

I just wish, I think i'd make a good playtester with my feedback. At least I think.

[light cloud]

like actual good players that think always think outside the box

[light cloud]

yes

no disrespect, but holo members arent really good playtesters as it seems

[spare jasper]

Take it from me, players always find things that developers miss. I should know as a developer myself who had playtesters.

[light cloud]

yes, no game is perfect, but theress so much stuff in this game that i just wonder if they played for more than an hour.

[spare jasper]

like how i managed to launch myself into space solo? They sadly patched it in the next update, but I felt so proud of myself.

i'm sorry, i'm getting this off topic aren't I? Basically, I think the game does really need a reboot and have playtesters and maybe even some trusted community members helping.

[light cloud]

like how did they miss the kids faces deforming whenever you play as quentin

or scarys traps being really bugged

or picking up chairs through walls

i could go on

but just to name a few

also, they really gotta do something about the d sync

like excuse me

[formal girder]

The unfair lag and hit boxes in this game

[vague robin]

Skill issue. You should have been holding a chair to instantly escape being caught. Duh

(joking obviously)

[vale sable]

If I can sign up for playtesting this game, I will 100% will do. I know how to bug many things out or just in gameplay find bugs in general

[formal girder]

If you have to use a unintended glitch to escape that’s bad game design because the actual game mechanics couldn’t help you when they are made for it

Obviously this statement I’m making is not against the game and it’s current state it’s just basic feedback

[wide estuary]

Not entirely bad game design, it's just called abusing exploits

[formal girder]

Speaking of that they really need to adjust or change how the grab works so you don’t get caught unfairly while running

Maybe change it so the explorer has to be in a certain hit box for a certain amount of time in the grab animation and If they Escape the hitbox they don’t get grabbed after running away

or they could have a fail save where if it does happen and you’re grabbed after running away the neighbor world be hit from nothing and the explorer has time to escape

[wide estuary]

That's just client sided connection issues

Although they do need to tweak some of the hitboxes in this game

[rotund wraith]

real

[light cloud]

?

[rotund wraith]

what u say that they shouldn’t rush it

[willow quiver]

there's also that with the neighbors when we do a dance I think

[dusty wagon]

75 likes

[willow quiver]

Yeah Gg @light cloud

[safe grail]

I agree
But about Quentin and Otto To be honest We should just let them be They will not Delete them So complaining about them not fitting makes no sense now just keep them balanced that's all to me
And I saw someone talking about replacing Sn with rbo and no just no like they are two different games 😭

[nimble star]

sn 2 when

[light cloud]

february 31st at 3:60am

[safe grail]

Yesterday

[modern plume]

Imagine if it hits 100

[willow quiver]

What are you talking about?

[safe grail]

😭

[safe grail]

Impossible

[dusty wagon]

everything is possible

[safe grail]

🙏

[willow quiver]

79

[willow quiver]

80 🥳

[formal girder]

Their you go

[vale sable]

[jade pivot]

Are we not gonna talk about the devs not watching feedbacks ?

[vague robin]

@light cloud officially most upvoted post

Mine was 81

[spare jasper]

That just shows how much the community agrees on this.

I know rebooting is hard work and holo might not want to do it. But SN would benefit from it.

[limber galleon]

Also in the reboot use the hn2 Peterson and update the animations

Like honestly keep the name but change the game

[willow quiver]

Except that if it's not done, the game will surely die

so it's be that be the end of SN

sad

[willow quiver]

It'll be really good yes

[spare jasper]

We're not asking for a sequel. We're asking for like a 2.0 overhaul

[limber galleon]

Redo animations and models maybe. I like the rescue squad models. But hn2 Peterson with updated animations would be fire

The only thing I don't want change that much is the music. Hello neighbor music is always fire

[safe grail]

Like a massive update

[spare jasper]

That's what i mean by overhaul

[limber galleon]

Yur

[spare jasper]

not like some slight rework or tweaks

[limber galleon]

Ah

Idk I do like the game in it's current state

While I do agree an overhaul would be awesome, secret neighbor should keep the feel of hn1

[spare jasper]

I don't think they're going back to the old hn1 style

I wish they just went with a HNVR style

[formal girder]

Personally I prefer the the HN1 neighbor to stay in the game and to have a skin of HN2 but that’s my opinion

[vale sable]

I know many people do say the game rn is good, but if you played the earlier updates I think you would prefer those

or we need something new entirely

[light cloud]

damn, didnt actually expect this to get THAT many likes

appreciate yall tho

it was so fast

[spare jasper]

It's that way for a reason as this game would truly benefit from it. It might take awhile to get a reboot update but as long as the devs show they're working on it it should be fine.

[formal girder]

As long as HN1 Petersons stays it’s good

[light cloud]

that model sucks

[safe grail]

They don't need to go back to hn1 style rlly just make Hn2 style more Fun to play

[willow quiver]

bruh the model is poorly made

his head doesn't even have the same color as his torso

and his shoes, they look like socks lol

and here I explained only a few errors on this model but there are many others

[last lodge]

You're aware that the biggest part of Scary's skins are based on the basic skin right?
I really don't see Hologryph remodeling every single skins just to be HN2.

They can just make it a skin

And I bet if they changed the model people afterwards would start saying they miss the old model

That happend with the lobby music, snow, ambiance, voicelines

[willow quiver]

well then he adds the old ones as Skins

Because in the end it doesn't make sense if they leave the old model because the graphics have nothing to do with each other

I have the impression that the community doesn't want the game to evolve while it would be great if SN changed a lot

bruh it's literally like the Fortnite community

[willow quiver]

Why is it a problem to redo the models? Let me remind you that they are video game creators and their job is also to improve their games so it doesn't make sense what you say

[last lodge]

Maybe because they have something else to do than remodel every single skins

SN isn't their only project

[willow quiver]

Have you seen their games sand? it's a proof that Hologryph are capable of a lot if they want to do it

[willow quiver]

So now you're telling me that the game is going to die since as you say they don't have that much to do lol

[last lodge]

That's not what I said

[willow quiver]

If they don't have that to do then it means that the game will stop evolving and therefore die

[last lodge]

They have something else to do as in the game itself

[willow quiver]

What you say means that anyway

[last lodge]

Bruh

[willow quiver]

Well man just the game is going to die since you're clearly telling me that aren't even going to improve this

Literally it's nothing compared to the big thing the devs need to improve

[jade pivot]

Because of what we call « nostalgia » sadly it’s not nostalgia if it stay the same

[willow quiver]

Fortnite community Be like lol

For example, watch Fortnite and how it has evolved well and now imagine if SN had evolved well as well

SN is staying in the past

In 4 years Fortnite has changed a lot and SN not really apart the graphics almost nothing to change

[jade pivot]

They could change the game completely if they want, but the community will want otherwise because of the « « nostalgia » » and also i’m not sure about what i’m about to say but it doesn’t look like they are continuing developing Secret Neighbor

[solemn rose]

the game is just gonna lose its charm if everything becomes HN2 shit so if you are expecting them to bring HN2 neighbor into the game just expect it to be a skin and thats it . ALSO the game is already basically dead so it wouldn't change anything if only the neighbor model changed .so now please stop trying to argue about this dumb thing cuz you are just saying nonsense :)

[willow quiver]

Bruh, you just don't want the game to change and if the developers changed and fixed the bugs and promoted it better the game might become better so you're the one saying stupid things.

[jade pivot]

Why insulting hn2 and arguing over a video game ?
I mean if you don’t like the idea you can just not like it ?

[willow quiver]

and besides, as luck would have it, you are Fortnite players so I understand why you didn't want the game to change lol

[willow quiver]

he insults because he's simply a Fortnite player lol

he's angry because he doesn't want SN to change and become better lol

[solemn rose]

who the hell said i am angry huh

[jade pivot]

you said the style was "HN2 shit"

[solemn rose]

besides SN is one of my top played games on steam

[solemn rose]

thats the way i talk :)

[jade pivot]

i tell you that because we can get ban for less than that

[willow quiver]

and what's more they are on the ERA serv so proof that these are people who remain in the past lol

[last lodge]

SN should have it's own artstyle

Not HN2

[solemn rose]

the word shit is allowed in the server you know

[jade pivot]

you didn't understood

[solemn rose]

besides i really don't care if i get banned from the server at any point cuz i already left the server before multiple times

[jade pivot]

but so,

[solemn rose]

yes it should

[solemn rose]

also just to let you know just because i play a game doesn't mean thats the reason i don't want the game to change :)

[willow quiver]

except that you say the opposite since you wanted HN1 lol

[jade pivot]

could be cool, if the artstyle stay great and at least a bit realistic (remember it's a stealth horror game)

[willow quiver]

you give the impression dude

[jade pivot]

we meant the nostalgia reason by that

[solemn rose]

nostalgia or whatever SN doesn't need to be a HN2 multiplayer game

it should have it own style and not bring every HN2 asset into the game

[willow quiver]

And he doesn't need to have HN 1 too

[solemn rose]

omfg

the hn1 neighbor is the whole reason the game is even HN

if it wasn't for tinybuild asking hologryph to change BAM into a HN game SN wouldn't even exist

so please stop trying to find reasons to say that the neighbor needs to change

he does not need to change

[willow quiver]

The neighbor's model is poorly made lol

[jade pivot]

i say that because
firstly- it's the direction they are taking for this game
secondly- if they put everything HN2 (because of the first thing i said) it would be a step-up for the game graphicaly

[solemn rose]

its not you are just saying that cuz you want HN2 neighbor

[desert mango]

Folks, as you know, everyone here has the right to post their ideas for our games, but please keep in mind that the comment section is for you to add your ideas to a suggestion.
Don't use this space for fights and arguments and please be respectful to each other.
If the topic loses its focus we will have to close it. Thank you for understanding

[solemn rose]

thanks jacky for bringing an end to this arguement cuz i don't feel like this would have stopped otherwise

[jade pivot]

i was about to say something like that 😁

[jade pivot]

bruh

[willow quiver]

I say that because it's real, the model has always been the same from 2019 to 2024, it would be time to improve the model

[willow quiver]

and you say that because you want the HN 1 graphics to come back

[solemn rose]

OH can you stop please

[willow quiver]

here is proof with this image that the model sucks lol.

Okay, let's stop this discussion.

[light cloud]

hn2 just doesnt fit sn

it looks good in hn2, but in sn its just so bland and boring

[light cloud]

it is.

imo atleast

and i prefer the hn1 style

he just looks like a plastic toy

all of the kids have very good models

[solemn rose]

its cuz of the textures

the model is fine by it self

the textures need a revamp sure but not the model

[light cloud]

i dont really like the model

i didnt like it in hn1 either

this as a 3d model

from comete

[solemn rose]

thats a drawing not a 3d model

[solemn rose]

oh wait

i am stupid lmao

oops

[rotund wraith]

they do, they are not answering last summer i asked if brave could break windows with bat and it got added

[light cloud]

mods have some kind of privilege when it comes to feedbacks getting added too

[jade pivot]

I mean a lots of cool ideas could have been added and they didn’t

[willow quiver]

real, sad

[rotund wraith]

yes it’s real, but they add what they like tbh

[jade pivot]

Yeah that sad, because there is a lots of ideas that could have turned the game into a real stealth horror game « in hello neighbor style sure »

[willow quiver]

It will have been amazing but good pity

[willow quiver]

89 👍

[dusty wagon]

we have to go 100

[spare jasper]

You know, we say we want the game to be rebooted but it makes me wonder how exactly a rebooted sn would play? Something like the old alphas, more stealth oriented, or maybe something else entirely?

[dusty wagon]

here's the suggestion if u guys don't want to scroll for like a minute

[jade pivot]

a lot more stealth i guess, like how the tags says

[willow quiver]

The message would really have to be pinned so there would be no problem to see the Feedback

[light cloud]

i would like them to make the chases more intense too

so that u have constant anxiety when being chased

[modern plume]

Why did the mods close this feedback post

[spare jasper]

People kept on counting instead of adding onto the post or discussing about it. It was reopened after i explained why in SN chat.

[modern plume]

Ohh alright

this is gonna be the first feedback post to reach 100

[willow quiver]

Yes and what's more there is a chance that the feedback will be accepted

[limber galleon]

A reboot where secret neighbor is actually focused on surviving/teamwork rather than "omg throw literally everything that's not nailed down at the neighbor"

[formal girder]

More gameplay options more reasons for reports console players using offensive language in the voice chat actually getting banned because that’s technically verbal harassment

Seriously though

[vague robin]

Yeah. I like stealth more than combat, and the game is just too combat based right now. and not in a balanced way

[willow quiver]

And the game must become what it was supposed to be from the very beginning, an infiltration game

[astral elbow]

The game is in such a rough state right now. It would be an absolute miracle if they completely re-did everything, cuz this game used to be fun all the time, now it's only occasionally fun. I want to see this game thrive again someday

[willow quiver]

Yes it would be really good

[random burrow]

Hey, I might seem like a big person living under a rock but, what dose reboot mean?

[spare jasper]

Basically a reboot is, to put it simple using the term of movie reboots: 'a new version of something that uses several of the same elements as the original, but can differ in major ways.'

So in SN's terms, it'd be like taking the current game and going back to the drawing board to hopefully improve on the faults of the game. Changing up the entire game and perhaps even the story tied to it.

It'd take a lot of work yes and people who like the current gameplay loop and style may get mad, but it probably is the best decision. Get more people to work on it, put more of a anti-cheat in, get playtesters again. I just want SN to be that stealth social deduction game I remember it being for the longest time.

[formal girder]

People who think they are good because they beat down the neighbor with everything they find be like

No

[rotund wraith]

Real

[vague robin]

https://tenor.com/view/danny-devito-its-always-sunny-applaud-happy-cry-clapping-gif-18958303

[hidden otter]

Players that are all the brains and strategic instead of just trying to be that one “neighbor fighter” are mostly the good players honestly

[random burrow]

Ohh ok ty.

[willow quiver]

Real

[willow quiver]

On the other hand, we should pin the message of cyber because we can even see the feedback

[spare jasper]

True, a lot of messages have been sent in here.

[willow quiver]

Thanks for pinning the post

[grave pond]

You deserve it my heart really good feedback!❤️ 💙 💜 💖 💗 ❤️ 💙 💜

I will hunt these two

Almost 100 good job!

[formal girder]

Will it actually happen at 100 or was this a big waste of time we spent liking this post

No? Well the community has already agreed the reboot is probably gonna happen

Can’t wait to have to wait another 6-7 or even a year for the reboot update to come to the platform I play while PC and Xbox would get it by 3 or 2 weeks

Very fun
Very Fair

[spare jasper]

Reminder to not just focus on the number of people that agree. Yes its nice its almost at 100 but the comments for feedback is meant to talk about the feedback itself.

[willow quiver]

the reboot has a great chance of happening because the devs must surely have seen that the community absolutely wants a reboot

[light cloud]

also, just because this post has a lot of likes doesnt mean it will happen

[willow quiver]

but there is already a greater chance that he will be accepted since he is much loved

So in reality the likes help a lot

[modern plume]

Rebooted SN would be so amazing

[light cloud]

ik. im just saying cuz some ppl might think it will 100% happen cuz of the amount of likes it has

[misty bobcat]

But it have bigger chances to happen cause none of other feedback post count almost 100 likes and this has almost 100 likes soo i think the devs might do it but it can take them a while like a year or something maybe longer but they need money for this Reboot to happen and TinyBuild might bankruit soon from what i heard soo idk but everthing is possibile soo maybe it will happen in 2 years (cause Rebot the whole game it's need a lot of time and the fact that Holo team has 15 people yeah this might take 2 years )

[compact sentinel]

I feel like a reboot would be amazing but they should keep the main key elements of the game and carry over all your skins and currencies ( coupons and coins ) also, lower the price of the game by a bit

[light cloud]

ye just reminding everyone to keep their expectations low

[vague robin]

Yes. A reboot would keep the base concept of the game, the main gameplay loop, and other key elements but would rework everything else around it.

[formal girder]

Maybe make it so people can’t just fight the neighbor anymore or something

You’re not supposed to fight them you’re supposed to run or hide while throwing something to slow them down

That’s literally the only reason they gave the explorers stamina to prevent fights with the neighbor

[formal girder]

Not gonna lie if this game gets a reboot they should remove or make it a toggle in custom lobby’s for the ability for explorers to kick Down doors like in the alpha’s so only the neighbor can do that sure it would make the game more like HN1 and the neighbor would get immediately be found the moment someone is caught kicking a door down but it’s just a idea for a reboot

[spare jasper]

There's a few areas where explorers could get softlocked if that was added

[formal girder]

Anyway small suggestions for the reboot

1 leaving a match would lose you some coins but can earn back by either waiting a day or winning the penalty match

2 better anti cheat I don’t have anything to say because it’s been talked about a lot

3 if the neighbor is camping the basement door after the match, he will lose coins instead of earning them for playing cheep

[light cloud]

please no

thoughts?

i think landing a fully charged throw on the neighbor should be more rewarding, because now you don't really have a high chance of surviving in chases against the neighbor, especially if you're playing a slow kid class or it's a good neighbor. so, i think the neighbor should get a much longer stun (5 seconds?) and be slower while stunned when getting hit by a fully charged throw. fully charging up a throw would take a bit longer, but in exchange, every neighbor would be a tiny bit faster than every kid and would also be able to block (blocking slows him down a bit, though). also, the neighbor would get throwing stamina too, minus the longer stun, and he would need to charge up longer to stun. perhaps the slowdown when not having any stamina anymore should be kept too to make it a high-risk, high-reward type of thing?

[light cloud]

excited for imbirs feedback for this lol

[spare jasper]

losing coins also just feels a light slap on the wrist with how much you can earn them in the recent update

[formal girder]

Yeah, my suggestions just pretty much lead to you lose coins if you play cheap in matches

[spare jasper]

but dont get me wrong the idea of punishment for if you play wrong/toxic is a good idea

[formal girder]

Again another idea was the neighbor would lose half or get no experience if he just camped the basement but that was another idea

[spare jasper]

that would seem like it'd matter only to early game players, once neighbors get to levl 50 I doubt they'd care alot about XP...

maybe the game would give you a warning and if you keep it up, you'll be given a penalty match

[formal girder]

Yea something like that

[spare jasper]

now, let me read this since apparently people are excited for me to review feedback now

[formal girder]

I was thinking a similar idea with tickets but then again you can buy them with real money and it would be incredibly unfair if you would lose them just because you didn’t play fairly

Coins or EXP those are the only things that you can really punish players for without really losing anything that’s really a big thing

[spare jasper]

Hmm...im not so sure about the 5 second stun. That reminds me of alpha stun time and it was easy to change how a match was all because of one object. However, I do like the idea of blocking returning along with neighbor getting throwing stamina

[formal girder]

And finally, the cream of the crop this wasn’t my idea and also I think it’s incredibly stupid and funny but someone thought that after you reach level 100 and win a match or lose a match the game would just tell you to go outside

[spare jasper]

that's funny but a bit mean

[light cloud]

i think a fully chargey throw should stun longer than 1-2 seconds

charged

[grave pond]

Cool

[willow quiver]

The idea is cool (And besides, the feedback had 100 Likes)

[grave pond]

Yes!

[spare jasper]

It's surprising and nice that we got 100 likes, but i will say again that we need to keep the comments on topic.

[grave pond]

And 5 superlikes

[pallid summit]

I have an idea for the reboot. basically they could add a feature where when an explorer gets caught by the neighbor, he will be stunned for like 2 seconds after he gets saved by another explorer (neighbor would also be stunned). 2nd, maybe the explorer's health decreases when he gets saved and after like 3 times of getting caught, the 3rd time, the explorer will die instantly as soon as the neighbor catches him. they could also add another class which would have a healing ability which heals another explorer but the ability has a 5 min cooldown (or maybe 10 min cooldown)

[formal girder]

Clown already has a ability that stuns and blinds the explorer for a few seconds so it’s already a thing after being saved

[pallid summit]

oh. I haven't played as clown in a while so I didn't know that

well the 2nd idea can still be added

[light cloud]

dbd guys

[pallid summit]

I knew someone was gonna say that

[light cloud]

what did you expect

its literally just the same lol

[pallid summit]

ik lol

[timid coyote]

So we hit 103

Is it possible now?

[grave pond]

Idk maybe

[willow quiver]

Yes, it's even more possible than before

[vague robin]

It is always Possible to reboot a game or make major changes to it

Its just only if the team is willing to spend that much time

[willow quiver]

If they do, the game will be more successful than at launch

And as a result, he'll earn a lot more money to finance something else

It can really help them to do that

Because SN is a very good game, it's just that at the moment the game is too buggy and not very well made and it doesn't have a very good promo but if the Devs fix all that I think the game has a chance to be really known

[vague robin]

A reboot would require a lot of work as they would need to keep fans still engaged while they work, they would have to recode many things, balance many mechanics, and just brainstorming and going through ideas and suggestions to see what would work

[vague robin]

SN has great potential and with a proper reboot we could see its full potential

[willow quiver]

Yes I know

[willow quiver]

Yes

[mortal lily]

stamina should be deleted or nerfed.

the best thing they can do imo

my honest opinion, i know a lot of people liked it

[formal girder]

Explorer stamina slow down definitely should be removed it makes no sense you’re using your arms not your legs

[willow quiver]

No, Stamina allows you to be less toxic

[mortal lily]

but it ruins the game idea

[mortal lily]

yeahhh

[mortal lily]

r u talking about box spamming?

[formal girder]

Cough cough Quentin with max stamina regeneration and max stamina increased

It’s basically like the nerf never happened

[mortal lily]

fair cus he has running stamina

[formal girder]

If you don’t ever run then?

Pretty much pre patch before the nerf but not really like 50% or so

[mortal lily]

whatever balance is in the deep hole since ~halloween 2023

winter update made it better

[formal girder]

Not to mention has dash does use stamina but the regeneration is so fast it’s like it doesn’t happen

[mortal lily]

but still unbalanced

[formal girder]

I think if this does happen and I’ve also may other suggestions before change the art style into something unique to SN and not just a copy from HN2

[willow quiver]

Yes

[formal girder]

Brave and Quentin are both characters that need fixing

Brave is broken in this update because of the chair physics being so broken meaning brave can beat the neighbor without using any stamina and pretty much can have an infinite use counter strike with the chair and Quentin can completely ignore the nerfs his dash can gain a ridiculous amount of speed can fight the neighbor without ever running out of stamina if he never runs and his one ability where he can reveal how many keys are left definitely needs changing

[mortal lily]

wait what is the chair bug

i didnt play the game for a long time

[light cloud]

game idea? secret neighbors idea is to be a multiplayer social deduction horror game, not a combat game.

stamina was implemented in order to prevent fighting

[vague robin]

I think both sprinting and throwing stamina for both kids and neighbor should be heavily reworked

In a reboot when it comes to balancing Id like

• Balancing of abilities and reowkrs of some abilities
• Stamina system reworked
• Map progression slightly reworked (key card doors and the way keys are spread out are not perfect)
• Sound system
• 'Combat' system needs to be redone, I think they should keep the base mechanic of throwing items stuns players but rework everything around it like the distance, stun time, powerful throws, etc

[willow quiver]

You really didn't understand the real idea of the game

If you want a fighting game you have to go for a game that is made for fighting

SN is just moving away from its original idea but there is a chance that the game will become the game it was before, a social horror game

[grave pond]

What is happening here?

[safe grail]

A lot

[grave pond]

[misty bobcat]

Basiclly people just discusting about Reboot SN

[grave pond]

[forest warren]

ngl this is the best feedback i have seen so far

[spare jasper]

I mean it has the most potential to help the game simply by allowing the devs to redo

[formal girder]

If it fixes the issues with campers actually being punished and cheaters being banned then I’m all out for this

[forest warren]

well that's an obvious thing they need to fix, get a better anti-cheat system

[willow quiver]

Redoing SN will be the solution, because I think if they don't do it it's the end of the game

[light cloud]

dogshit feedback post👎👎

[forest warren]

lol

[dusty wagon]

wow 100

[hidden otter]

I got so scared for a sec lmao

[timid coyote]

They'll still have Sand whenever that comes out.

[vague robin]

Sand (to my knowledge) is being developed by a completely different team at Hologryph.

So while they work on that game they would still be working on sn

[willow quiver]

sand sa has nothing to do with SN

[timid coyote]

W feedback

[hidden otter]

Real

[timid coyote]

And my point was missed.

[crimson oar]

fr

[willow quiver]

?

I didn't understand what you said