#Changes To Ghost

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sinful lintel
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Ghost is a very flawed class and needs changes, imo. He's very annoying to play against and is too op against solo kids, so here are some changes that I think would fix that a bit (had to split this up in 2 parts because it's too long).

  • Lower his speed, He's faster than a normal speed boost and if you have the ghostly speed perk equipped, he's even faster than a chocolate bar and leader boost. If you're playing as a slow class like Bagger, Brave or Detective, your chances of escaping him are really low. If you do manage to escape him, he can just instantly fly to a sonar and track you at all times with his OP movement.

  • Give him a cooldown for ghost form, If he transforms out of his ghost form, he will get a (10 second?) cooldown so he can't just instantly transform and get to you in a flash, giving you some time to breathe and think about life. I know he has a cooldown now, but it's so short that it doesn't really make much of a difference.

  • Give him a longer grab cooldown when exiting ghost form, He can just instantly grab you after exiting ghost form to the point where you can't even react when he ambushes you. I know the cooldown got longer this update, but it's also really short and doesn't really make a difference.

  • Make him lose a bit of health when near a light for too long, So if he is in ghost form and near a light source for too long, he will slowly lose his health to avoid him just always being next to you and always needing to watch your back.

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  • Buff his blocking doors ability, Him being able to block doors is a good way to split up kids, but if there's a leader, bagger or a kid with a chocolate bar, they can easily break down the door in less than 3 seconds and save the kid. I think doors that are blocked by ghost should need 4/6 hits to open regardless if you're bagger, leader etc., just like normal/keycard doors. Maybe also make it so that he can close doors quicker if he's in ghost form?

  • Buff his Polterlight, Make it so that you can't turn on your light if he uses his polterlight until the lights stop flickering.

  • Make him be able to turn off lights from a farther distance, I think he should be able to turn off lights from a tiny bit more far away than normally.

  • Fix some light sources not letting you transform even if you're not in the same room, Sometimes you can't exit the ghost form because some light sources go through walls, making you not able to exit ghost form.

If there's anything you disagree with or would change, let me knowbaggerthumbsup

cerulean kettle
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alright so

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first thing I wanna say is that I haven't played Ghost in quite some time, so I'm not really familar with the new changes to him

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I will say that Ghost is a little too fast when being in Ghost form, like he zooms

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So tuning his speed down a little bit would be nice

sinful lintel
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ye

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hes even faster with ghostly speed perk

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like its not even funny

cerulean kettle
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Grab cooldown will also be nice, it is a little unfair try to throw something at Ghost before he grabs you because there is a very little time window for you to react

sinful lintel
cerulean kettle
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I'd say like maybe a 2 second timer before he can grab, something like that will allow Explorers to react a bit better

sinful lintel
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like a second

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hes the most flawed class rn imo

cerulean kettle
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Not too much of a fan of him losing health while next to a source of light imo, like I get it's his weakness, but idk I feel it wouldn't work well in gameplay

sinful lintel
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so you have a bit of breathing room

cerulean kettle
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I get that, but idk

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Polterlight, imo, has always needed a buff

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It feels very lackluster

sinful lintel
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and it would encourage him to actively ambush instead of just flying around like an idiot

cerulean kettle
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Like just turning on and off lights is more effective than his ability

sinful lintel
cerulean kettle
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That was dumb

sinful lintel
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like wth

spark schooner
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You know I always wondered why ghost doesn’t take damage in the rain because you know ectoplasm + water = nothing good

sinful lintel
cerulean kettle
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I feel like they should make it more powerful. Maybe they can make it so that when Polterlight is used, all lights will turn off in the area of the map that the ability was used in. And when the lights go out, lights will have a 50% chance to either break, or just turn off. A broken light means it cannot be turned back on at all.

I don't necessarily think this is a good idea, but it's an idea I had to make Polterlight feel more useful.

glass raptor
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If u give him a cooldown to ghost form he will die Too often

spark schooner
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I mean if it’s raining in the match and in ghost form why doesn’t he take damage from the rain?

glass raptor
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Remember ghost have the Lowest Health in game

cerulean kettle
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also it would be annoying

sinful lintel
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why is why i want them to buff his blocking doors ability

sinful lintel
spark schooner
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Also I feel like the flashlight and lamp light doesn’t stop him from going ghost form I mean it does but he still can transform even in the light sometimes

glass raptor
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Make him lose some health for staying in light is cool

sinful lintel
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sometimes you get bad luck and enter a room with a broken light

glass raptor
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I main ghost so I kinda know how gameplay works for him

sinful lintel
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why did you dislike my post :((((

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/jk

spark schooner
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They made him floaty in ghost form for a few seconds when moving but still

sinful lintel
glass raptor
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Like from 1 side

sinful lintel
glass raptor
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To win as ghost u need some skill

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But

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I know how hard it is to win Solo vs Ghost

sinful lintel
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as ghost

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if kids stay together, have a leader and bagger, lamps, youre screwed 99% of the time

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like youre not in control of ghost

glass raptor
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But still one mistake
Dook blocked bam end

sinful lintel
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the kids are in control of you and ghost

cerulean kettle
spark schooner
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Also polterlight pretty much is useless because the kids can simply turn off the light and back on and the ability does nothing after that

sinful lintel
sinful lintel
glass raptor
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Like I said Damage in light is cool but I don't know about nerfing speed or Grab

cerulean kettle
glass raptor
sinful lintel
sinful lintel
spark schooner
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Oh I did read it although the idea of ghost taking damage in the light is both interesting and would be Annoying

glass raptor
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Imo

sinful lintel
sinful lintel
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ghost literally has 1 counterplay

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or 2

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which is lamps and a group

glass raptor
spark schooner
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The kids could simply leave a few lamps near the basement door and whenever they are turned off could go turn they back on

Sure this would prevent ghost from camping but it would also make it almost impossible to revert except his own room

sinful lintel
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and before you even grouped up he killed everyone because he has op movement

glass raptor
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Like without the speed u can't Get fast to groups and Can't Sperate them

sinful lintel
sinful lintel
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just not as fast as before

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he will be faster than quentin definelty

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just not as fast as a speed boost

glass raptor
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Maybe they can Nerf his Normal speed but give a little buff to his speed perk

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To have a choice

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Uknow

sinful lintel
glass raptor
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Ye

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And another idea

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if they would give him Grab Cooldown They should also give him new perk to Reduce time of it

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Not much but

sinful lintel
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ig

glass raptor
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Then players have a choice give him some health perk speed perk Polter perk or faster grab perk

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✨perks✨

sinful lintel
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damage resist

glass raptor
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Yes I'm talking about that

sinful lintel
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i like how scary has a perk that makes him break down doors faster

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so dumb lmao

glass raptor
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Let's make a suggestion

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To

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Just

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More perks

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👍

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Perks should have more impact in the game

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We have maybe few perks that rlly change something

peak valve
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No.

glass raptor
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Why

peak valve
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you're not supposed to be flying around and trying to grab people instantly without them having a chance to fight back, you're supposed to be a trickster. using ghost to your advantage.

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ghost needs to have at least a small grab cooldown

spark schooner
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Scary has a faster kick down perk

Butcher has a long hook range perk

Clown has longer smoke bomb effects

Ghost has faster movement in ghost form

peak valve
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enough to let a kid get away and not allow instant grabbing especially with lag

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BUT it's not going to be too long, i don't want to terribly nerf ghost

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im just tired of ghosts hovering around the last kid

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waiting for the lights to go

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and there's no way to fight back

glass raptor
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Give him Grab Cooldown And That he take damage if he is too long in Light

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But then

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Iwe need to buff something else

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To not kill him

peak valve
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i dont think he needs to take damage in light

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however

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i'd say health regeneration should be nerfed in spirtual form

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you're not alive how are you regenerating health

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that way ghosts cannot play chicken and just go spirtual form to heal

glass raptor
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Either way

peak valve
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We dont want to have kids chasing the neighbor

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then itd just be a role reversal

glass raptor
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To be honest most of the players Chase the neighbor if he is on low health

peak valve
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Yeah i know

glass raptor
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Then they die

peak valve
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but if this is added ghost will go from a threat to oh just get as many lamps as you can

glass raptor
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Like in group Ghost needs much skill to win but Solo or just if everyone is Running alone he demolished

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I love ghost

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Imo the most underrated neighbor

sinful lintel
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like the blocking doors thing

spark schooner
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I’m a ghost main my self but even I think it’s just way to easy to win for how unfair he can be

sinful lintel
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you can basically seperate the kids anywhere not just at gates

frank yacht
sinful lintel
glass raptor
frank yacht
glass raptor
sinful lintel
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quentin is the fastest, then scout, inventor, leader, detective, brave, bagger i think

frank yacht
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An old adult man is faster then an agile 12 year old with a slingshot

sinful lintel
glass raptor
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So he ain't that old to be slow

spark schooner
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Quentin is the fastest but he also uses Stamina when running so he can’t get that far before running out

If he doesn’t have perks that is

glass raptor
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XD

sinful lintel
glass raptor
peak valve
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basically what i think should be changed. buffs and nerfs

Light ability will Disable (not just turn off) lights temporarily that are turned off that way you cannot flicker them. Flashlights and Lamps will need to be interacted with a bit to turn back on.

Health and Stamina Regen gets pulled to a crawl when in spirtual form to prevent ghosts from simply rengerating health and not allowing people to hit him

Flying speed is nerfed and the perk to increase speed is replaced with something else.

Spiritual to physical Grab Cooldown is a bit longer, with it being 1-2 seconds.

If ghost is hit while going spiritual, the process resets and they go back to normal.

Ghost cannot repeatedly slime the same door over and over again.

Ghost can reinforce windows with his slime, however only non broken ones. He can also lock gates in place by ghosting through them.

violet sinew
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I’m mixed about this as he’s annoying when you are solo but these changes are a bit lame if you stick together

spark schooner
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The problem with that is he can basically become a fighter due to his stamina not mattering for how fast it can be regained

violet sinew
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The blocked door one is good but if they know the map well they might be able to get into that room a quick enough

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Unless it was a one way room which isn’t that much on the maps

sinful lintel
spark schooner
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Also I’m not sure but would you classify the kids using the quick door kick down a bug?

violet sinew
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Which ability

sinful lintel
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portal/blocking doors

violet sinew
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I already mentioned that

glass raptor
violet sinew
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If you know the map well they can still save them quick enough unless they were stupid enough to go into a one way room

sinful lintel
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and it takes time to get to the other side of a door except if it has a vent directly leading to it

spark schooner
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To be fair ghost can still be hit while transforming into ghost

violet sinew
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And since this game is pretty dead a lot of players are experienced or at least know the basics of the map

spark schooner
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most likely a bug though

peak valve
glass raptor
sinful lintel
violet sinew
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I doubt it hits a thousand players even on PlayStation

sinful lintel
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so he just cant get away

peak valve
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yeah thats the thing

spark schooner
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I wish I could play this game more casually but the problem is on that case red tiers are consent and there is no ranking player system

peak valve
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you stun him and he stops the transformation

sinful lintel
glass raptor
violet sinew
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If you know map it’s relative easy to save them unless they go into a one way room for some reason

sinful lintel
glass raptor
sinful lintel
spark schooner
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It’s hard to know who you’re playing against because some platforms don’t have icons just the plant symbol so I could end up facing a PS ghost with a bunch of switch players and would never know

violet sinew
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And if you block the vent what if they go through the door or run down the stairs in the map 1 kitchen room

spark schooner
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Can ghost block the vents? I personally haven’t tried that before

sinful lintel
violet sinew
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There’s that part in the map 1 which is kind of like a door but with a gate

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And if you are inventor

sinful lintel
violet sinew
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You can open it

violet sinew
glass raptor
violet sinew
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And it sometimes takes lower than 15 seconds

sinful lintel
violet sinew
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What does inventor have to do with chocolate bar or inspiration

spark schooner
glass raptor
sinful lintel
glass raptor
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So switch on switch don't have switch symbol

spark schooner
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No they don’t

violet sinew
glass raptor
sinful lintel
glass raptor
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I don't know why I used rbo

violet sinew
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What does that have to do with inventor though

sinful lintel
violet sinew
sinful lintel
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oh you meant thaz

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i meant inventor being able to just open the gate and save the player

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it has nothing to do with ghost

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its just inventor and leader needing changes

violet sinew
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Inventors gate skill is fine in my opinion

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It just stops butcher neighbors from camping the gate to catch players

sinful lintel
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and you can easily get 6 gears too in a minute

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or less

violet sinew
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In general most people don’t still

sinful lintel
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what?

violet sinew
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Like even when there’s one inventor I’ve rarely seen people ever open gates as inventor in the 5 years I’ve played this game

glass raptor
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Inventor should get a new Gadget

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That's all

sinful lintel
violet sinew
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Nope

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I’ve rarely seen people use it

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Last time I experienced it as neighbor was a year or two ago

peak valve
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i think the gate thing is fine.

sinful lintel
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"i rarely a leader use inspiration" "i rarely see braves using counter strike" "i rarely see scouts using their slingshot"

violet sinew
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And last time I’ve seen it as a kid or heard it is basically a millennium ago

sinful lintel
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who are you trying to fool

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are we even playing the same game

violet sinew
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These are stupid things to say every leader use’s inspiration it’s the main skill every brave uses counterstrike it saves you every scout sues slingshot it’s her only ability besides the running with slingshot and gate ability is a secondary skill that requires things to collect I rarely ever see it

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Most people I’ve seen don’t seem to pay attention to the gate skill because you can craft items

sinful lintel
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everytime you open one you have 1 gear less

violet sinew
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I’ve seen more people using the metal detector than the gate ability

sinful lintel
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but that might be bad

sinful lintel
violet sinew
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That would be annoying if there’s multiple inventors

sinful lintel
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its one of the most useful abilities

violet sinew
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No not really I rarely use it

sinful lintel
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metal detector isnt even that good

sinful lintel
violet sinew
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To bad too sad

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Not a loss for me because I can just craft a rifle

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I forget I can even use that skill most of the time

sinful lintel
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reverse engineering helps you in chases a lot

violet sinew
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Not in my experience because they you know just open the gate

sinful lintel
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the only time it wont help you is on map 5 because that only has one gate and i just a dog shit map overall

sinful lintel
violet sinew
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If you’re lucky you don’t even have to stop moving to open the gate

sinful lintel
violet sinew
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Which is pretty common so idk why I said that

sinful lintel
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right

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im out

violet sinew
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Bye

peak valve
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this feedback is getting a bit off topic from what i can see so

violet sinew
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Anyway I am out now

drifting gate
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Which, in my opinion, the ghost is too weak...
He needs either a big buff or a complete rework!

peak valve
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if i had to choose, he'd get a rework but the problem is idk how the rework would even be. I don't think he needs anymore buffs

sinful lintel
stiff dagger
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I disagree with loosing health in light though

sinful lintel
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not instantly when going near one

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so he isnt constantly on you