portable sonar and disguise mask

[median talon]

the portable sonar from otto should be added to all of the neighvor classes along side scary neighbors disguise mask. people might not agree with me, but hear me out:

the neighbor is supposed to split up the kids so he can catch a kid without the rest saving it easily, because if youre going afainst a group as neighbor youre gonna have a hard time killing a kid if theyre good. playing as classes like ghost or butcher and trying to kill a group can be really hard, so i think the portable sonar could really help with that. it needs some changes though, like the cooldown for using the sonar should be longer (20 sec instead of 14?) and the range from which you can turn off lights and use gates should be much farther.

for the disguise mask, youre supposed to trick the players into trusting you and try making it seem one of the ither kids are the neighbor, and the disguise mask could help with that, but i figured that the other neighbor classes could have a hard time gaining trust. so i think the disfuise mask should be added to every class, with some tweaks too. i think the voice lines should be mimicked too alongside their name, class etc. to trick other players better. also, you should be able to to transform into missing kids again.

[safe heart]

Yes but what ability the Scary neighbour and Otto would have?

[median talon]

id say give scary some camera ability since hes supposed to represent the actual neighbor and otto something regarding his wooden duck

[safe heart]

The wooden duck like in that reveal update image?

[median talon]

feel free to write any ideas for that in here of course

[median talon]

ye

[safe heart]

Why not attracting the crows?

But before nerfing him because he's like 1 shot anyone.

[safe heart]

Also, how would the cameras would work? He'd need to go to his room to watch?

[median talon]

maybe you would be able to manually place them down and any kid that gets too close to it will be seen for the neighbor for a period

maybe 20 seconds?

also, you wouldnt be able to place an unlimited amount of cameras

if you place too many (10?) one camera will be destroyed

and if you place them to near to eachother they can be destroyed all at once

you wont be able to pick them up like in hn1 though

[safe heart]

Seems fair.

They do a ping to notify the neighbour.

Like in Hello Neighbour.

[median talon]

or have the same effect as when you see a kid on the sonar

so you know what theyre currently doing

[naive leaf]

Giving the portable sonar a long cooldown doesn't seem necessary to me

Maybe a 10 second cooldown when turning off gates and no cooldown for turning off lights

Also ghost should not be able to turn out lights with it

[median talon]

i mean the sonar itself

not gated or lightd

[median talon]

yeah, should probably edit my post to include that

[median talon]

being able to see the kids from anywhere makes it harder to go against camperd since they know where you all most of the time

[naive leaf]

So you can only use it once every 20 seconds? So of you decided to turn out a light than you'll have to wait 20 more seconds before you can use it

[median talon]

im bad at explaining, but ill try:

if you press the button to see all the kids for a short period, you will get a 20 second cooldown on seing all kids for a short period of time, not turning off gates, keycard doors, lights, etc.

[naive leaf]

Ooooh

I see

[median talon]

the only way to defeat campers when there is no gun is opening the door while they dont watch their guard, but if they can constantly know where you are its almost impossible

thats why i always open the bottom locks first

[naive leaf]

Try clarifying this

In the post

[safe heart]

Seems fair.

But he should have it in a different item spot.

Like in the Alpha phase. The kid himself could hold the item.

[safe heart]

That would also work.

[bitter ermine]

Just an idea i did #1168919393107988532

[golden bay]

one of the most stupid and bad ideas i ever seen in my life..

[median talon]

the majority agrees with me

instead of just writing bs like that, maybe elaborate?

[golden bay]

And I don't understand why, completely broken balance and personality of every character.

Like, do you even play the game?

[median talon]

youre still not elaborating why, just saying its broken. i try to clarify a lot of stuff that even you should understand, while youre just going into a post, downvoting it, saying random stuff about it, and not elaborate at all on why you think its broken.

[golden bay]

😐

[dapper sapphire]

Lmao, the idea is pretty good if you ask me. It would make other neighbors feel playable considering that giving them all sonars and disguise abilities would help against kids in groups and can make them split up. Instead of saying it’s stupid and bad, maybe give an actual good reason for why it’s bad.

Actually, since you’re so confident to put down people’s ideas, how would you improve the game and make the other neighbor classes feel playable without needing to nerf kids/explorers?

[golden bay]

more ways to split up kids, punishment for being in big group of explorers.
And just buff neighbors ( Saucepan wont defend from hook, butcher. Rework ghost. Make more stamina for guest. And return old taxidermist but make his reloading slower )

[golden bay]

Buffing neighbors and adding punishment for being in big groups is better, than ruining personality of every neighbor. Imagine if butcher will have a remote sonar...
And also guest sense ability needed to be reworked ( even tho its very cool )
Ghost dont need it ( he can fly trough walls, so pressing the button as him is easy )
Clown ( and butcher ) can camp more easily with it.

Mask is** maybe okay **adding to other neighbors, but i think that would ruin personality of the scary neighbor, the mask just fits him more. ( and how the DUCK guest going to put it on? )

[golden bay]

Like, ya know, SCARY neighbor

[median talon]

literally the whole point of adding the portable sonar to every neighbor is for neighbors to split up kids in groups more efficiently

[golden bay]

And what about the button function?
The only thing the sonars do to split up the kid is closing the gates, experienced players will be just stick together in small distance, so it would work but only with unexperienced players.
But bruh, 4 abilities is to much

And how the duck sonars is going to help deal with both groups? ( 4-5 players )
Not the gate, no

And also butcher gas a hook and gate stragety, so sonars is not that needed for him

[winged sapphire]

Ok

[dapper sapphire]

That doesn’t really work against experienced players since they can just keep hitting you with an item every time you throw a hook and try to close the gate at the same time.

And making saucepans not being able to protect you from the butcher hook is a really dumb idea. The reason players started to wear helmets more was because of the fact it could protect you from the hook. Removing it would make the item useless again. I don’t think it would help with group of kids in anyway at all either.

Maybe have it where if the Butcher catches you with its hook but you had a helmet on, it will pull you back a little bit instead of making it a insta-grab. I think that would be a better idea.

[median talon]

honestly

thats pretty good id say

[golden bay]

Yeah you right there

[golden bay]

Scary neighbor exist. And saucepans is not useless without good defense ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Hook defense *

[median talon]

how are you supposed to split up the kids from the neighbor room?

[golden bay]

Hmmmm, pretty good

[golden bay]

I'm saying about button feature

[median talon]

i know