add the new map to the original map

[waxen swallow]

the patch was great but it did not look right it had separate maps can you pls the new map into the original map

[wispy robin]

What they did was they made two seperate levels, one with the main map and and one with the guest. So when you go into the guest's spot, it loads into the guest level. I think.

[uncut timber]

They did that for optimization

Also the fire extinguisher would just break the entire level

[wispy robin]

Ya

It would be cool if the guest could actually go into the original map

Or can he already?

I still havent played the patch yet so idk

[eager flax]

performance would die

[uncut holly]

Terrible idea. If you want to make the game run like crap maybe

[waxen swallow]

what the heck are you talking about

they should do it anyway

[uncut holly]

Are you joking

[neat vapor]

The only reason that the game runs bad is cuz devs are bad at their job, the game can still run well if they add the forest to the original map

[uncut timber]

"Devs are bad at their job" excuse you?

Are you forgetting the console ports?

They will have to port all of this over to the switch eventually

It makes sense why they split up the map like this

[sacred elbow]

Ever heard of optimization? Its needed, or else the game would lag and run badly

Dont blame the devs

[sacred elbow]

Ok, then you do better. Make a huge game with a huge map with everything loaded at the same time and have it run at 60 fps.

You'll see it's not that easy to just have a game run good

[uncut holly]

Yeah you have 100% made a game before! I don't think you know anything about tinybuild, or games in general

[neat vapor]

the switch can run games like skyrim, the witcher, botw and totk, which are games that require more power than hn2, yet they can still run on the switch.

[neat vapor]

actually, it's easy if they imply optimization techniques like deloading everything that the player doesn't see like entire areas

[uncut timber]

it takes a lot of work to optimize shit on the switch

[neat vapor]

then they should do that work since I'm paying 40 dollars

[uncut timber]

and they only have like what 6 people working on the ports?

[sacred elbow]

Yeah because they have large porting teams

Madorium is only 6

[neat vapor]

security breach came on the switch, with a small porting team of around 20 people

it runs infinitely times better than hello neighbor 2

[sacred elbow]

20 PEOPLE NOT 6!

[neat vapor]

and that game is bigger than hn2

[uncut timber]

Im pretty sure its less than 6

[neat vapor]

no it's 6

[sacred elbow]

Theres a difference between 20 people and 6

[zinc ravine]

im sure theyre better than you...

[neat vapor]

there's a difference between huge amounts of content and 3 hours worth of content

[neat vapor]

you're right! Doest not mean I cannot criticize!

[zinc ravine]

but it does mean you can learn to spell!

[neat vapor]

and you have no points against me, which resulted in you bringing out my spelling mistakes

which yeah, I need to get better at

[zinc ravine]

i have loads of points

[neat vapor]

aight

[uncut timber]

bro I have stated several points

[neat vapor]

write them

[zinc ravine]

theyre just really obbvious

ok

[uncut timber]

you kept making unfair comparisons

[sacred elbow]

If you're gonna criticize, please at least do some research please

You're expecting a group of less than 6 people to port a game like hn2 to a small console in a few days

[zinc ravine]

1: youre comparing 2 completely different games with different teams

[sacred elbow]

Just for the love of god be patient

[zinc ravine]

which you cant really do because theyre so different

[uncut timber]

one has a small team the other has a huge amount of people with a big budget

[zinc ravine]

2: theyre literally updating the game its not over yet

[neat vapor]

no, I waited for years for this game to come out, I'm not waiting for the game to get good after I payed for it

[uncut timber]

it literally doesnt matter that its a seperate map

all it does is make you wait 5 more seconds

[sacred elbow]

You already have the game and its gonna come out eventually

[zinc ravine]

then play something else smh

why are you here

[sacred elbow]

You just need to learn that the process of porting takes more time than pressing a button and it automatically being optimized, running at 60 fps, and have 4k graphics

[uncut timber]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-neighbor-hello-neighbour-jt-music-music-video-gif-5103952417416595001

[neat vapor]

because I actually care about the game, and I actually want them to work of the game that was promised, which I will never see because I will get tired of waiting

[uncut timber]

I care about the game too

[neat vapor]

homie, I already know this, there's a reason we're having this discussion

[muted hatch]

so you want them to work on the game that was promised, which they are doing, but you dont want to wait

okay

[zinc ravine]

then you HAVE to be patient

[uncut timber]

Im literally known for being the guy who critizises the game a lot

[zinc ravine]

you cant expect them to immediately fix everything

[uncut timber]

and I dont think its fair to blame the devs for being unable to meet an unfair deadline

[wise delta]

do you
not know how game development works?

its not a big red button thats labelled "make game"

[neat vapor]

nice observation sherlock

[wise delta]

you clearly didnt make the same observation

because according to your logic game dev should be automatic which is not possible

[sacred elbow]

You're expecting triple A game development and behavior from a small team. the price is a little high, but they're fixing it to be what its worth. Just be patient.

[neat vapor]

like I said, I'm not waiting anymore for a game that came out already to get good.
One more thing, if easy optimization techniques like deloading stuff like objects or entire areas the player does not see is considered triple A gaming stuff, then I'm sorry but that's wrong.

[muted hatch]

"easy optimization techniques like deloading stuff like objects or entire areas the player does not see"
they do that

thats in the game

[sacred elbow]

Well you're gonna have to wait for the game. Because that's how life is.

[neat vapor]

they do, but not in a really good way since it only deloads objects inside the house, and lowers the quality of objects that are far away

[muted hatch]

??

yeah ?

that is a good way ?

that is how you optimize a game?

[neat vapor]

not really since they could do other stuff like what Amnesia does, which deloads everythign the player does not see

and I mean everything

[sacred elbow]

You have no idea what you're talking about at this point

[uncut timber]

me watching houses in the neighborhood dissapear when I walk too far away:

https://tenor.com/view/jerma-jerma-stare-stare-gif-27260036

[muted hatch]

they do that

thats a default Unreal Engine feature

[wise delta]

thats literally a default UE4 feature

theres no possible way they can not do that

[uncut timber]

they stopped typing

[neat vapor]

actually no

[uncut timber]

aww man :(

[neat vapor]

thinking what to say since I can't get my point across that the switch can run well

[wise delta]

LOL

[neat vapor]

if they actually care

[wise delta]

SWITCH???

YOU EXPECT SWITCH TO RUN WELL

LOL

[neat vapor]

THAT'S WHAT WE BEEN TALKING ABOUT ALL THIS TIME!?

[sacred elbow]

THEY DO CARE YOURE IN DENIAL BECAUSE 6 PEOPLE CANT GET A LARGE GAME LIKE HN2 ON THE SWITCH IN THE SPAN OF A FEW HOURS

[neat vapor]

"large game" homie the game is 3 hours max

[sacred elbow]

And the games visuals?

[muted hatch]

in gameplay

they're talking about the games size

[sacred elbow]

It takes longer than pressing a button to port a game

It's a long process

It takes time

[neat vapor]

time that majority of the community are not going to wait cuz guess what, it should have all been at release

[zinc ravine]

i can imagine this music playing during this conversation

[neat vapor]

pretty much

[zinc ravine]

because you dont seem to understand what youre saying

[neat vapor]

I do since I take coding and game desing classes

even my teachers agree with me

[sacred elbow]

Would you rather have a rushed laggy glitch game that was released quickly or a well made well optimized game that took longer to make

[neat vapor]

optimized game, which is exactly what hn2 is not

[sacred elbow]

AND THATS WHAT THEYRE TRYING TO DO!! WHAT DO YOU THINK ALL THIS TIME HAS BEEN SPENT DOING??!!

[muted hatch]

what even is this conversation about anymore bro what the derp they are literally optimizing it the best they can its not their fault porting PC Games to Switch is a miserable process

[sacred elbow]

DO YOU THINK THEYVE BEEN DOING NOTHING??

[neat vapor]

yeah

[zinc ravine]

<@&1162799252192379000> pls lock this post

[sacred elbow]

Yes

[neat vapor]

the game should have been optizmized at released cuz you know... we been paying 40 dollars for this

[neat vapor]

please do this

[muted hatch]

it was ??

theyre just optimizing it further with patches ??