#Change the age rating on the game and remove the full family friendly thing.

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sick wolf
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Ok, so i know people won't really agree with me on this one but here's the thing. You can do so much more with a story if you simply bump up the rating to a teen at least. I'm not asking for Mature where there's blood everywhere and a super scary horror game, i'm asking to release that restraint. It makes ZERO sense why the AS can have the bloody scenes and death while in HN2 it's just a 'family friendly' game. Otto LITERALLY has a gun and can shoot you, but he refuses to punch you? What is this logic?

I know there's going to be the whole 'well the game's already out we can't really change the age rating.' however i think as long as the game has a disclaimer before you launch it (that you can turn off in game) or you re-release it when it fully comes out with the new 'T' rating it should work.

tl;dr Make the game at least T rated, no extreme blood. Just allow yourself to breach that boundary.

cerulean roost
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Not sure if its possible for them to do it now, especially by how largely affected it will be for the majority of the community

sick wolf
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that's probably the flaw of this

jovial snow
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the game feels like a 2nd beta

sick wolf
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it'd be WAY LESS of a issue if they weren't pumping out physical verisons for like switch

random basalt
random basalt
cerulean roost
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Yet again, it will be affected badly after the past hn games releases

sick wolf
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hn is not a kid's story, there's a lot of deep themes in it that you wouldn't huddle around the tv with the family to watch.

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it's more or less just wishful thinking

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i know there's things in the way but i can only wish.

cerulean roost
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Yes, I know where you are going through, and I would love that obviously, I'm sure it will help kids learn the real world experience and the place they are living in rn

vital wave
jovial snow
jovial snow
sick wolf
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this is why AS and HN2 should just swap.

HN2 gets all the updates and the version that has the not for kids stuff, and AS becomes the kid friendly thing that gets monthly updates.

vital wave
novel nimbus
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I agree with this. A higher age rating would allow the devs to add much more to the game. Also its been so long since HN1 released that any 10 year olds that played it in 2017 when it first came out are now 16 anyway.

cerulean roost
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Imao, you are talking about me

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Cuz i am about to be 16 this year

untold mountain
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I'm pretty sure Otto does actually punch you in the closet animation though.

sick wolf
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my closet catch animation was broken when i played so i wouldn't know.

sick wolf
round nest
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I have to admit otto has one of the funnyest jumpscares but some of the hardest puzzels in the game

jovial snow
# jovial snow

I just realised that the guy who made this left the server

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this is tragic

sick wolf
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You know, i think the top one could be in the game, like if you keep getting caught he'll do that as an alternative quicker catch animation

jovial snow
sick wolf
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well you keep going into a crime scene even after you're being removed

sick wolf
jovial snow
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perhaps the animation could be faster

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like in this animation he stares a bit too long

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and the walking could be a bit faster

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that could save maybe 3-4 seconds which would make it tolerable?

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I would love the neighbor being aggresive on Quentin

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because he is only person who knows where mr peterson is hiding

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would make more sense if he was aggresive

sick wolf
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even the mayor seems more aggressive that him since i always thought he strangled you.

warped stump
lunar sapphire
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I want to know what fangame is inclduing these advanced animations so badly

jovial snow
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Its not a fangame

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Its just a bunch of mods made by diffrent people

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I bet none of them have been released

random basalt
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which is why this feedback needs more attention

jovial snow
random basalt
jovial snow
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Too bad Tinybuild doesnt care and is only focusing on getting young kids into this franchise

random basalt
jovial snow
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older fans dislike the AS but they put the blood and deaths in it

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younger fans ussualy dont play the games themselves and just watch youtubers

random basalt
jovial snow
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is it because hn2 is in the third dimension its not as acceptable?

random basalt
jovial snow
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idk still I wish hn aged up the games as their audience

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hn on paper has dark themes

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children getting kidnapped is a mature topic

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yet they restrain themselves to this rating and a young audience (the AS writers know the target audience is young so they dont bother to write better because kids cant tell between shitty or good writing)

random basalt
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Alex doesn't understand what made Nikita's story mature, so he has instead decided to try to artificially increase the age rating by including a metric shit ton of blood and death

jovial snow
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hn has potential that tinybuild just doesnt want to embrace

random basalt
jovial snow
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I dont think the AS has been bold enough to kill off a child yet unlike the books where they killed of lucy

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from what I know she got launched off the track

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thats horrifying

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and mature

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AS is just ahhhh car wheel!!!

random basalt
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the way the cashier dies in episode 2 doesn't even make sense

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the nail from the nail gun is lodged inside the can, and blood is oozing from the can

jovial snow
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the censored version ironically makes more sense

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why would the blood be coming out of the can?

random basalt
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ask the "world class writers"

jovial snow
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man of action probably does have good writers they made ben 10 and that show is great but with hello neighbor theres 2 main issues:

  1. They dont care about Hello neighbor
  2. they dont understand the story and themes at all
random basalt
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the AS would be good if they
A. Retold the book story (with added scenes to develop characters)
B. Had better animation and an art style based off HN2 old art
C. Had better writing
D. Consulted nikita

jovial snow
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Heck they could have even had us follow new characters

random basalt
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yeah, like the mayor or taxidermist

rough bridge
warped stump
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That's me

jovial snow
cerulean roost
jolly glacier
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I agree with this feedback they should change the age rating

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To be higher

cerulean roost
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I even use imbirs idea that is related to the guest holding Aaron's body

jovial snow
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his fate is left vague in hnvr

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I doubt they would have the guts to show a dead child in hn

jolly glacier
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Though?

cerulean roost
jovial snow
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they wont even allow gun mod

jovial snow
cerulean roost
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Alright, im gonna change the context of the guest appearance

jolly glacier
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Lets talk about it in his post

jolly glacier
jovial snow
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ye

jolly glacier
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Really hope they do drop the family friendly image tbh

rigid dove
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same

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we do know where that got FNAF SB but this is HN not FNAF

cerulean roost
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At this point, what hn2 is really missing is the depressing moments such as the tone, the backstory, and the messed up feel of the museum

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Thats also another part that can be a bit darker

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As to show a bit of grief and understanding in the story to show us about the museum, and well mr Peterson

sick wolf
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checking in, this is getting a lot of thumbs up jeez

glass carbon
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I mean, I don't know what's stopping them from changing the age rating. The game is already rated PEGI 12 across Europe.

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So it's already not exactly what you'd call "family friendly." HN2 isn't even rated that because of "horror."

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The main reason for the 12 rating is "moderate violence." I'm guessing that's referring to the intro and shovel scene, Otto's gun, the bear traps and then the ending cutscene.

jolly glacier
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Hn 2 shouldn’t be family friendly

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Tbh

sick wolf
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We hit 30 likes-

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I know this probably won't be put into the game but it shows that the community clearly wants the game to be more serious in that sense.

glass carbon
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Interact with the community more and build a level of trust.

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Then the account could have a poll like theMeatly did on whether Bendy should be more mature in the future.

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Stuff like that could work well.

rigid dove
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Yep

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I agree

jovial snow
rigid dove
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But tiny build aren't theMeatly so we might have to wait and see what happens

glass carbon
rigid dove
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True

glass carbon
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I'd assume the Twitter account is run by Ira as well, seeing as they're a community manager.

rigid dove
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Mhm

glass carbon
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So maybe they could simply ask Alex, seeing as he seems to be the head of everything, if they could make the account a bit more active in addition to their regular weekday posts.

rigid dove
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So, I remember when we were waiting for BATDR to release, and Meatly kept tweeting oh I'm working on this game blah blah blah, but at the end of 2022 he went screw it and made the game a masterpiece

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I think this is a topic for off topic channel

jovial snow
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alex ruined the lore and games

rigid dove
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?

jovial snow
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but I would say what happend with bendy is worse

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its off topic Ill avoid talking about it

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I could continue in dms

sick wolf
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Yes please

rigid dove
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Oh I think I know what it was

jovial snow
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ok then I wont

rigid dove
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No need for it

jovial snow
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we dont need to discuss bendy drama here

rigid dove
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Yeh

jovial snow
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change topic

sick wolf
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Just keep it related to the main topic which is the feedback

rigid dove
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Guest coming soon y'all!

jovial snow
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anyway I feel like the guest jumpscare is a step in the right direction I love how violent it felt

rigid dove
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I am excited

sick wolf
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i'm still amazed so many people agree with me. I thought I'd have more thumbs down

rigid dove
jovial snow
rigid dove
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I bet if I was Quentin I'd be terrified that a bird with human legs and hands just pinned me to the floor

jovial snow
rigid dove
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Yeh

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But I just love how he goes for his beak and goes, SHUT, but guest goes nope

jovial snow
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its part of the reason I found him more interesting than Beatrix. Quentin has room for growth and has a lot of flaws (well had before fg removed those...)

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Beatrix felt like she already competent and could fight for herself

rigid dove
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Let's face it tho, no matter how strong Quentin could get, he'd stand no chance against the guest besides pushing him and failing to run off

jovial snow
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even nicky in hn1 had development

rigid dove
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True

jovial snow
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even if his character was sort of non existent

jolly glacier
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Hello missed anything

jovial snow
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he got over his trauma

jolly glacier
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A conversation

rigid dove
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He defeated Le Shadow

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And his fears were no more

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He had to live in a doomed town and felt happy doing so

sick wolf
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if you guys are going to keep talking i feel it's best to move it to a actual channel

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i hate to be a moderator here and say that

rigid dove
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Aight

sick wolf
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thank you.

jovial snow
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what do you think?

sick wolf
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I do think it's in the right direction without holding back. Actually having Quentin fight back...and fail

jolly glacier
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Now we just need blood and gore when guest bites him😈

jovial snow
jolly glacier
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Btw guess who revived the thread

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I left a message and deleted it

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So it would pop up again

jovial snow
sick wolf
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well its' nice to have it bumped with all the likes

jolly glacier
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Anybody thank me now!!!!

sick wolf
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with how hologryph listened to me in SN, I hope tB will listen to my feedback

jolly glacier
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Or else a spider will crawl into your mouth while you’re sleeping

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😈

jovial snow
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I hope Egs will listen to mine. I have 2 posts with over or nearly 50 likes

jolly glacier
jovial snow
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I would be dissapointed if those arent implemented in any way

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also back on topic

sick wolf
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if it wasn't so long I'd agree

jolly glacier
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So he probably would need to approve it

jovial snow
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theres a few seconds where he bassically stares

sick wolf
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Imagine if it counts how many times you were caught in the closet, the first time it'll be that animation but if you keep getting caught it'll be quicker

cerulean roost
cerulean roost
sick wolf
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with 30 likes i feel like it has to catch the eye of the team and i do hope they AT LEAST consider it. I want to help this game improve

cerulean roost
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If a developer responds then yes

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But this is gonna take them even more time to make the game mature

sick wolf
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i hope they'll take their time with it to improve it, as long as they're showing the community they're working.

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if we had two more bagger thumbs up this would be perfect

jolly glacier
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Yeah we need a more mature atmosphere

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Tbh

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Hnvr pulled it off to be honest with creating a pretty much perfect atmosphere

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Like there’s even a fart machine easter egg in hn 2

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Why couldn’t they chose any other book easter egg lol

sick wolf
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hnvr is proof that they can make something like that, the positive reaction besides the bugs show that people want it

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Also there's a what easter egg?

jolly glacier
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Yep

sick wolf
jolly glacier
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In nickys tree house

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You can find blueprints for the fart machine

jovial snow
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it nailed the vibe of what I consider to be hello neighbor

jolly glacier
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Couldn’t they just had child drawing’s instead lol

jovial snow
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mr peterson being bad is a rumour kids pass down the neighborhood. And kids being the bane of ted`s existance

jovial snow
jolly glacier
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Hn 2 full game just feels too happy in a way

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It lacks the sad tone

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Except for maybe the ending

sick wolf
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the ending was a bit touching to me...then the whole knock out thing happened

jolly glacier
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And my emotions turned from sadness to confusion

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Like where’s the rest of the game

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Park guest

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Where are you

sick wolf
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They should have had the notice that the game isn't done before the credits rolled

jovial snow
jolly glacier
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And mentions nn ai

jovial snow
sick wolf
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Even better but still

jolly glacier
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Nah delaying it to December this year

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Would have been best imo

sick wolf
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i do agree anothe delay would have been good and just have the current build as a pre-order/deluxe bonus

jolly glacier
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This is the switch description

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Like right now

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It’s just so confusing why they don’t remove it and replace it with the updated one

jolly glacier
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In mr Peterson house

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To suggest he’s turned to alcohol

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After losing his wife

sick wolf
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that's a maybe from me, idk if Mr. Peterson would do that

jolly glacier
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Okay maybe add blood in Aaron room

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Because

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In the books it’s implied he was cutting himself

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Due to guilt

jovial snow
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wow

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thats dark

jolly glacier
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Ik

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But it’s in the books

jovial snow
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too bad they are afraid to loose the family friendly image

jolly glacier
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Soo

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And he did cut himself in the lore unfortunately

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Which is super sad

sick wolf
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...Jesus. how did i miss that in the book?

jolly glacier
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In the end of missing pieces

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Nicky finds broken glass at Aaron window

sick wolf
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I remember the note with 'i make bad things happen' or whatever

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i didn't know why the blood was on it

jolly glacier
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With blood all over

jolly glacier
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There was

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Because Aaron was so guilty he was cutting himself

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Or mr Peterson got so angry and accidentally hurt him

jolly glacier
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Tbh

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I’m pretty sure Nicky sees the broken window with blood on the corners

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And a note saying I make bad things happen

jovial snow
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book 1 goes from fart machine to kid doing bad things to himself

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honestly book 1 would be 100 times better if they removed the fart machine

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its jarring

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and takes me out of the story

jolly glacier
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Also mr Peterson

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Having a mental breakdown

jovial snow
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I dont recall that being in book 1?

jolly glacier
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In his bedroom

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Nicky hears him talking to himself

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And saying no please

jovial snow
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still I miss when ted was a character. now he is just heurh huarrr!

jolly glacier
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Just stop!

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And how he squeezed his face hard

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So hard it become red

sick wolf
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i miss the humanization it gave him. HN2's ending kinda made him human but still

jovial snow
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welp the new lore wants to take him to the "peterson is ruthless killer!!!" direction

cerulean roost
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While hn2 doesn't follow any plot on the AS or neither every game, they did replicate mr Peterson being a killer

jovial snow
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killing kids 24/7

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his new favorite hobby

jolly glacier
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Also in book 2 mr Peterson is singing a creepy children song

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While chopping meat

jovial snow
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I liked the idea of him loosing his mind.

jolly glacier
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Because he well lost his mind completely

jovial snow
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thats what I thought the guest neighbor was

jolly glacier
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Also he slightly warns Nicky

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In his song

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And threatens him

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Because he knows Nicky is watching him

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He didn’t chase him or anything he just threatened him

jolly glacier
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Or do you not want spoilers

jovial snow
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please dont I wanna save it

jolly glacier
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Okay

jovial snow
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and listen to it

jolly glacier
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Listened to the second one

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Yet

jovial snow
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no

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I need to organize my time to do so

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5 hours is a lot

jolly glacier
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Alright

jovial snow
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took me a while to get to book 1

jolly glacier
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AS neighbor isn’t that scary to me

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Tbh

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Book neighbor is more threatening imo

jovial snow
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Lucy flew like an angel LucyYi

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anyway off topic AGAIN lmao

jolly glacier
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Why did they even make hn so kid’s friendly

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A lot of kids likes scary stuff

jovial snow
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thats what got me into hn

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now thats just gone

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instead of making the games more mature as the fans aged now its more kid friendly

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anyway please move to #hello-neighbor

jolly glacier
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Like in hello guest prototype there’s implication of guest killing homless men who entered the park

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Ok

jovial snow
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this really isnt the place for it even though I agree with you

viscid beacon
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As much as I want the game to be less family friendly unfortunately they wouldn’t really appeal to the target demographic as much and might lose money, which is a big no no for a company like TinyBuild. That being said I do like that they made the cartoon a little more mature and again it would be kinda cool if they made the next game a little more mature kind of like what they did with the cartoon

jovial snow
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the smart thing to do would be to age up the games to appeal to the fans

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they did the opposite and bassically told their old fans to go away