#What went wrong
noble eagle
hazy cave
they were
they WERE planning to add it
but had no time at the end
and then scrapped it
because its hard to make one
and the houses are too small so it would be very hard for us the player to get around the ai
thats why they didnt add it
not for false info (which they still did anyway) but it would be too hard
see
but they still DID false advertise
sharp slate
Apparently they are planning to implement it in future content expansions where there are bigger locations. I don't see how the neural network AI would function properly in such small locations.
noble eagle
One thing I meant was his actions such as driving the car with a random object as a tire
It just looked so cool
orchid solstice
https://youtu.be/pPgACiDqWBA
what went wrong was letting this guy become design lead
craggy acorn
Lol we're still debating the neural network?
It was a marketing sham, case closed.
- Throw out a buzzword to entice consumers
- Collect sales
- ???/Don't implement and shadow cut the neural network
- Profit....off fraud
orchid solstice
Lol we're still debating the neural network?
It was a marketing sham, case clos...
it wasn't
if you go to grandeturisto's channel (the guy who created HN) and go to his Playlist, he has a Playlist of videos on how to develop advanced AIs
craggy acorn
This is easy. Were games sold with promises of a neural network.
Yes. Done.
craggy acorn
it wasn't
if you go to grandeturisto's channel (the guy who created HN) and go t...
None of this addresses that they sold games promising a NN, among other things. Strawman
fervent gazelle
Apparently they are planning to implement it in future content expansions where ...
well, the current locations arent gonna be expanding tho
orchid solstice
This is easy. Were games sold with promises of a neural network.
Yes. Done.
Nikita was not lying to people about the neural network. He wouldn't save a playlist of AI tutorials if he wasn't planning on using them.
The reason why the features in the trailers weren't in the game is because Alexus removed them. We unfortunately don't know why he did other than him saying they were one-time gimmicks and that he didn't like open world games
sharp slate
well, the current locations arent gonna be expanding tho
Yea new locations will be added that will be bigger.
sharp slate
and he must have neural network
That's most likely what they're gonna do. It would also work with large locations like The Golden Apple Factory or the amusement park
orchid solstice
Apparently they are planning to implement it in future content expansions where ...
Where was it confirmed that the neural network is being added?
sharp slate
Where was it confirmed that the neural network is being added?
They only said "AI Advancements" but there is a likely chance that it means NN. Nikitia defo didn't do all that AI coding on stream for nothing. It was most likely not in the game because Alexus is a poopscooper who nobody appreaciates
Yep
They could probably make a Neural Network that only learns from the specific player
I guess it would get so smart that it would literally start crashing the game to stop you from entering the basement lol.
orchid solstice
in an interview with Nikita he talked a bit about capping how smart the AI can get
orchid solstice
They only said "AI Advancements" but there is a likely chance that it means NN. ...
I don't think Nikita is working on modern HN2
sharp slate
I don't think Nikita is working on modern HN2
He's still on the team
orchid solstice
I doubt he'd work on the game rn considering what alexus did
orchid solstice
They only said "AI Advancements" but there is a likely chance that it means NN. ...
neural networks also take a long time to make, and monthly updates don't give the devs enough time to fully flesh it out
sharp slate
neural networks also take a long time to make, and monthly updates don't give th...
Logically they're gonna take a patch hiatus while they're working on NN
orchid solstice
but they're also working on a bunch of other stuff
they'd have to be working on the NN in the background
and that would mean several months before it gets to even a slightly playable state
devout pendant
What happened was Alexus (the one who shouldn’t be named), he was a scum, and lied to TB about upcoming things, and didn’t work on it at all, most of everything that didn’t make it, is because of him.
Yup
drowsy patio
Lol we're still debating the neural network?
It was a marketing sham, case clos...
it wasnt exactly that
the neural network existed in an unreleased build of one of the alphas
and this is something from the files and not a random lie made up by tb
orchid solstice
the neural network existed in an unreleased build of one of the alphas
but if it's unreleased then how do you know about it?
drowsy patio
and this is something from the files and not a random lie made up by tb
they ended up scrapping it after beta/close to release without saying a single thing and THEN lying right to our faces by saying that its still in the game while it was not
drowsy patio
but if it's unreleased then how do you know about it?
hn2a1 files had learning stuff in the files
orchid solstice
hn2a1 files had learning stuff in the files
oh
slender torrent
the neural network was the huge selling point ever since 2021 but yeah anyways I'll stop from there
copper juniper
@little berry There used to be someone at tinybuild naked Alexis, who scrapped all ideas for hn2. They then fired him at launch of hn2, and now they are working to get all the features scrapped back to the game.
slate narwhal
The thing that went wrong with the AI is the it wasn't possible to implement it
So they implemented this buggy and unstable ai instead
The AI jas improved alot in the patched but it shows us how tinybuild lied to us
rancid orbit
<@456226577798135808> There used to be someone at tinybuild naked Alexis, who sc...
Ars they actually working on it or is that just a hope?
slender torrent
they're most likely listening to our feedback
copper juniper
@rancid orbit yes, they are working on Bringing most of the stuff back. It will take them a while, though. If you look at the hello neighbor 2 roadmap episode 3, somewhere there they show alot of the stuff they gathered from feedback and feedback only, and they have already added lots of things from the feedback.
devout pendant
Ars they actually working on it or is that just a hope?
Yes they added like 4-5 of the old features back
And they are adding more
rancid orbit
Yes they added like 4-5 of the old features back
thats nice, i really hope they are gonna bring back the guest at some point
devout pendant
thats nice, i really hope they are gonna bring back the guest at some point
He’s confirmed for the next update https://youtu.be/05-yoRnsKVk
devout pendant
So yea