#A Bold Way To Put HN2 Into The Spotlight Again

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near surge
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I have made a Google Document outlining how Hello Neighbor 2 could be brought back into the spotlight. I hope you read it, and give as much feedback as possible so I can improve it further.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wY6D1p7xIzw7EbG6LyhuHorkDlYH03zxJGxfag12LsI/edit?usp=sharing

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Please give me your feedback so I can potentially make corrections, change my wording for certain things, etc. I want this post to be the best it can possibly be.

deft swan
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I honestly agree the game needs major overhauls aswell

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and the console players shouldnt have to wait for updates that pc players had for months

tribal crag
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Oh Alex…🙂, oh TinyBuild, oh Eerie Guest Studios and oh Madorium-

keen ether
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Bro is dutch van der linde

near surge
tribal crag
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Also, I don't think it'll earn its second chance after what happened to the launch release

keen ether
tribal crag
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I doubt any of this will work

deft swan
tribal crag
tribal crag
lucid vault
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i think this is a good suggestion!

i hope more people reacts to this, so the devs see this

tribal crag
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Idk how can it work, especially how little chances of the growth for HN2 are

deft swan
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I really want the game to be good without something drastic I doubt hn2 will get far

deft swan
near surge
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This series of steps is bold, and risky.

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But if it works

tribal crag
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Plus, by the time this gets noted by the mods, I don't think the people who work on the game will try to use these steps

near surge
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the payoff will be worth it.

tribal crag
deft swan
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otherwise people arent gonna even bother with future hn content

tribal crag
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No man's sky was lucky because it was literally just one game that made an error and decided to go backup

near surge
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A "No Man's Sky" kind of deal may not work in this scenario.

tribal crag
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With its big updates and issues resolvements

near surge
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Trust is already low, so pulling of something THIS BOLD will bring the community back in.

tribal crag
deft swan
near surge
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Besides, imagine the publicity?

tribal crag
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Before with HN1, it was just AI issues and others, but it did improve a bit, unlike the alphas

near surge
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'Hello Neighbor 2 pulls a No Mans Sky'

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'Hello Neighbor 2 is... actually good now?'

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If this works, it would pay off MASSIVELY.

tribal crag
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However with HN2, it used HN1 methods, by making it even more worse, such as false advertising and misleading promos and hell, the open world follow-up

tribal crag
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Or youtubers

keen ether
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Everyone's standards are so low for hn2 I feel like any but of new content to the game will make people insanely happy

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I know it would for me

tribal crag
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Only for a few minutes

near surge
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They will have at least learned from THAT.

tribal crag
deft swan
lucid vault
tribal crag
near surge
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Hello Neighbor 2 has the chance to get a massive glow-up.

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But only if they try.

keen ether
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Agreed

tribal crag
near surge
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They HAVE to take a leap of faith to get our trust back.

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And if it works, the company will reap the benefits.

keen ether
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Yeah

near surge
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It's all-or-nothing.

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(which probably sounds dumb to some people)

keen ether
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They are lucky we are giving them so much chances to be honest

deft swan
tribal crag
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I'm not even giving them a chance

clear raven
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I think this list is missing a crucial part of the process. They need to stop focusing on the Animated Series.

keen ether
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Very true

deft swan
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its already bad enough that the lore was messed up

tribal crag
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If they proof to me that they are worthy to show big content and etc, then I will believe them, but I won't care or give them a chance

deft swan
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but hn 2 is full of broken promises and thats just sad

keen ether
lucid vault
near surge
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past the character limit lol

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I might as well make a google doc for this.

deft swan
clear raven
deft swan
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even tho it doesnt have a conclusion...

keen ether
deft swan
deft swan
near surge
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I am now pulling an Adam, and am making a document

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no wait that was a google sheets

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uhhh nvm

deft swan
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He might be promoting it but like I dont think he honestly cares

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still i want hn2 to be good

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I want them to improve it

near surge
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someone do me a favor

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does anyone have the HN2 Diary Pinboard BG?

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I wanna make it the doc background

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(I like being fancy with my docs)

clear raven
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I do but I'm not on my PC rn

tribal crag
near surge
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nvm I have it

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I will change the post to the document link shortly once i'm done making a couple changes.

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nvm I forgot google docs doesn't let you change the bg to an image, that's just google slides

near surge
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Hey RedCard, I updated the post.

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The Document is now LIVE.

deft swan
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@near surge lets be honest

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not gonna happen

near surge
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Would you like me to remove that section?

deft swan
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considering they have done alot of it already

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plus we know how much alex likes the AS

near surge
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Gonna put this up for a vote since RedCard suggested I add that part

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Okay, so.

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Do I remove Section 4, or no?

deft swan
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and it lowers the chances of the suggestion being listened to

near surge
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Nobody else is really responding to this, so

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I guess you win?

deft swan
near surge
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(alpha 1/1.5 reference)

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alright, i'll give it a couple more minutes.

deft swan
near surge
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@here - Sorry for the ping! I have a vote going on right now.

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Did that work?

deft swan
clear raven
near surge
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or not

deft swan
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I hate ties

near surge
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Guess to break it, share your reasoning?

clear raven
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My reasoning for that section staying is that, while yes, it's not likely gonna happen, I think none of these suggestions will actually end up happening, so you might as well remind them that little bit more that we don't care about the AS.

deft swan
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it ruins the chances of the suggestion being listened to at all by A LOT

clear raven
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Well like I said, they might not even care about it either way. Correct me if I'm wrong, but so far, despite that list Adam showed in the 3rd Dev Log, they haven't really done anything based on community feedback.

deft swan
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also the AS isnt even hn2

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we are leaving feedback to the devs

clear raven
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It affects HN2

deft swan
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not the company

deft swan
near surge
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That's a fair point. I want HN2 to get better, and for the devs to take their time. Not for the AS to get cancelled. That'll just be a thing that exists and I don't think many people can stop it.

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(sadly)

clear raven
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He's in charge of the devs and what they end up doing with the game.

deft swan
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anyway

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they spent money on the AS

clear raven
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Ideally we would need some sort of AS feedback section but that doesn't exist, sadly. This is the next best way to try and let tB know that they should stop focusing on the AS. And like I said, while this feedback is for the devs, the AS does still affect HN2.

deft swan
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and its clearly far along

near surge
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I personally believe that everyone's concerns are valid

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The AS does partially affect HN2 in regards to story

deft swan
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asking them to pause them is an unreasonable demand

near surge
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and Alex might not even read this.

deft swan
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probably not

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has he ever read feedback?

near surge
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Not that I know of

clear raven
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He might not read it directly, but surely he's told about certain pieces of feedback, since the devs can't just collect feedback, and plan to add it into the game without their boss's approval.

near surge
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Both of you make good points but

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there IS a chance the feedback will still partially get acknowledged by someone ANYWAY

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regardless of if it's there or not

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or if it's even brought up to Alex

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I feel like RedCard "wins" in this scenario. Sorry.

deft swan
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welp this suggestion will be most likely shot down

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im sorry but that 4th demand is just asking too much of tb

near surge
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Nevermind, you're right too

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I don't know who wins the tie break or not

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both of you have like, REALLY good points

deft swan
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wheel

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wheel

deft swan
clear raven
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Yeah but I'm not done

near surge
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oh

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what are the rest of your points

clear raven
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If only the devs see it, they can simply skip over the AS part, since they already skip a ton of feedback that they don't like, or know won't be added to the game.
And if they bring the AS part to Alex, ... he'll most likely just ignore it and pretend the AS is God like he already does, whilst also being reminded deep down that we hate it. Basically I don't see a reason for it to not be there. I don't think everything here will be overlooked just because of that one section about the AS.

deft swan
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like you said

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it will be ignored

near surge
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I don't want this to turn into a massive argument so I just let RNG decide.

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Congrats, RedCard!

deft swan
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you are ignoring the fact that brings down the chances of the whole being listened because a point that wont give us anything

near surge
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I'm not.

deft swan
near surge
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both of you have good points.

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Wdym WASTED

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It's just RNG.

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Both of you had good points

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I didn't want this to turn into a massive argument

deft swan
near surge
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so I left it to random choice

deft swan
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especially when you put in a demand thats 100% gonna get rejected

clear raven
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I don't understand why you think that one little section about the AS will result in the entire rest of the feedback being completely ignored.

deft swan
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that makes everything else look more unreasonable in comparison

near surge
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None of us knows how tB or EGS thinks.

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They just like money from what we know.

deft swan
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I dont wanna make unreasonable demands right next to some good ones

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it makes the good ones look bad also

clear raven
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Ok this makes no sense.

deft swan
clear raven
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What does that have to do with this? 😭

deft swan
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and the AS aint going anywhere at the moment

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its a demand that will 100% be ignored

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and will make the whole thing look unreasonable to certain people

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the post itself is asking them to take a risk

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then they mention the AS

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they already spent money on it

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and the episodes have been worked on

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they will loose money (probably if they listen to it)

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and will make everything else seem bad cuss its grouped together

deft swan
near surge
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I'm sorry that I can't please everyone. I made this suggestion for THIS exact reason.

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People just keep fighting all the time due to HN2's failure.

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The community's become more

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hostile

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I wanted that to CHANGE by suggesting this.

deft swan
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I just want this suggestion to have a chance of being listened to

clear raven
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Just because it's unreasonable doesn't mean it has to be removed.
Like you said earlier, the devs are the main people who will look at feedback.
And the devs can simply ignore the AS part.
They won't think the entire list of feedback is whack just because of that.

deft swan
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  1. is just too unreasonable and ruins those chances severely
deft swan
near surge
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I'm genuinely trying to listen to feedback. Both of you have GOOD POINTS

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and there's only the two of you here.

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The tie would likely be broken if everyone else was in here

deft swan
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which just sabotages the whole suggestion

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for no real gain

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you yourself said it wont do anything

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best case scenario alex will hear "people dont like the AS" (which he probably already knows) and continue doing what he is doing

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theres litterally no gain here

clear raven
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That's how these things go.

deft swan
clear raven
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There's no reason to stop voicing our dislike for the AS, and that is exactly what you're saying we should do.

deft swan
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this suggestion is for HN2

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the AS has no reason to even be mentioned

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this hn2 feedback

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even tho we hate the AS this isnt even a suitable place to mention it

clear raven
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I said this at the start. The AS affects HN2 in a negative way.

deft swan
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and from what I can tell alex is dead set on it

near surge
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my head is killing me already, and I don't want people hating eachother here

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so i'm just gonna leave it up to RNG again.

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I can't please everyone, i'm sorry.

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I wish I COULD

clear raven
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Just include it.

deft swan
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the As doesnt belong in this suggestion

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it doesnt need to be here

clear raven
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Omfg 😭

deft swan
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since it isnt even hn2

near surge
deft swan
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this feedback for the game

clear raven
deft swan
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not the franchise as a whole

near surge
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I'm sorry, but for once I'm gonna put my foot down. This is the final decision.

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I don't want any more fighting between people.

clear raven
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Thank you

near surge
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I don't like this cycle of constant negativity.

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The community used to be better than this.

deft swan
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I just feel like constantly bashing the AS and have it be included makes the whole idea seem worse

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especially since it isnt even hn2

near surge
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wdym constantly bashing the AS

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I just said to temporarily halt it.

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Besides, it allows for the episodes to be...

deft swan
near surge
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1 - Higher Quality
2 - for future episodes to be planned out

deft swan
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fans want it gone

near surge
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and for HN2 to get breathing room

deft swan
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its too late to make last minute changes

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everything seems to be too far along from what I can tell

clear raven
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This post is literally about re-announcing an entire game, and you're saying they can't make last minute changes to a crappy animated series?

deft swan
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anyway RedCard (unintentionally) sabotaged the chances of this suggestion

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and I find that quite dissapointing

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it seems just rather childish if im honest

deft swan
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it isnt that simple

clear raven
deft swan
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and they would loose money

clear raven
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They already lost money buddy.

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Badly

deft swan
clear raven
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No it literally wont

deft swan
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do you think they wanna loose MORE?

clear raven
deft swan
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halting the AS wont do any good
fans want it gone. tb wants money off it

near surge
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I don't want this thread to be locked

tribal crag
deft swan
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the middle option will satisfy no one

near surge
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I just wanted to have HN2 be potentially good, this is all the idea was FOR

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I literally just wanted the constant cycle of negativity to END

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I hate that everyone is bickering

deft swan
clear raven
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Bro

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I've said this multiple times now

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The AS affects HN2.

tribal crag
deft swan
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best case scenario they work around the issues

near surge
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Look, I don't want this thread to be locked.

deft swan
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this just childish

near surge
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ALL OF THIS is childish.

clear raven
tribal crag
deft swan
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the 4th suggestion isnt even hn related

deft swan
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I cant do this anymore it just feels like im argueing with a wall

clear raven
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The game which is being affected by the AS, and maybe if the devs see that we want the AS to slow down, so HN2 can speed up, they might just poke their boss about it.

clear raven
deft swan
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oh god

deft swan
near surge
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How the actual hell did we get 300 messages already?

clear raven
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Egg keeps making the same bad claims

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That's how

deft swan
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excuse you?

tribal crag
deft swan
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your the guy who is asking an entire company to halt work on an entire thing

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in place meant to leave feedback for a game

clear raven
deft swan
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I dont want this to be locked can we just agree to shut up about this and discuss the other things?

near surge
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YES.

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Thsi.

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*this

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Let's just do something else for now, I don't want this thread to get locked.

tribal crag
deft swan
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(I still think its a bad idea that will ruin the whole thing but I cant do anything about it)

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ok so how could they rework the game then?

tribal crag
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It really is, and I'm glad you acknowledged it

clear raven
near surge
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Please could we all just get along for ONE SECOND?

deft swan
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move on

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christ I dont want this to be locked

clear raven
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Ok Twisted Brick Wall.

near surge
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This franchise has turned us into negative people.

lethal bramble
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gunter

near surge
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I don't want it getting worse

deft swan
tribal crag
near surge
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okay, gunter good

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there we go

clear raven
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Let's move on! We are a happy family and we don't talk about the AS because you should totally give up on voicing your opinion that's such a great idea best idea I've ever heard yeah giving up on voicing your opinion is soooo coooooll

tribal crag
deft swan
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ok so @near surge can you elaborate and what changes do you think would work best?

near surge
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?

near surge
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changes for what

deft swan
near surge
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My whole entire doc

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was so the game could get better.

deft swan
near surge
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So the devs had time to listen to everyone's feedback, and cook whatever's coming up all in one, big package.

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I'm tempted to just give up and delete this thread.

tribal crag
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What is this pricing for?

deft swan
clear raven
near surge
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My head is hurting, and I hate that everyone's fighting.

tribal crag
near surge
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We're almost at 400 messages, and I don't want this place being locked.

tribal crag
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There's no hope

deft swan
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ok lets just

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ignore it

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k?

clear raven
deft swan
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we arent talking about it anymore. either we stop talking or we mention other things about the suggestion

near surge
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363 messages. What the hell happened here

deft swan
tribal crag
near surge
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Agreed. Let's just calm down. We don't need more negativity.

lethal bramble
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yall if you keep saying "ok lets calm down" then continue you just arent changing anything other than filling the chat with your arguments

tribal crag
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Your preying on a war, are you?

deft swan
tribal crag
clear raven
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Moral of the story: Don't ever ask for feedback on your feedback. Your feedback is yours and you should do only whatever you want with it. @near surge

deft swan
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look what can we discuss then?

near surge
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I should just delete this thread and start over.

tribal crag
near surge
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This thread was a warzone

near surge
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Okay, i'm gonna just

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repost this

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and pretend this never happened

tribal crag
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It's a pun for "how much minutes, how many hours, or how many nunbers"

deft swan
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wait can we repost stuff?

tribal crag
near surge
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This chat has been arguing for a long while, I don't want things getting worse by new people coming in and seeing this.

tribal crag
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Reposting drama

deft swan
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if we want to mention something important

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we will mention it

near surge
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okay then.

clear raven
deft swan
tribal crag
deft swan
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😕

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ok how is this even related to the suggestion?

tribal crag
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Tinybuild is losing money

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For the past 2 years

deft swan
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this isnt related to the suggestion

clear raven
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Message for mods or Jacky if they see this: "I wasted too much time here you can't just delete it all."

tribal crag
deft swan
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lets agree to not post anything here unless we have anything important to say about the suggestion

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alr?

clear raven
neat pumice
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It'll take a LOT to gain people's trust again even a little bit

heavy nexus
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In case anyone didn’t know the “not to be rude but you could be sued” thread was took down by the owner of it and left the community. It wasn’t deleted by mods or TB. Seeing how long that thread lasted getting to 3000 messages I don’t think this thread would be removed but only by the owner of it.

tribal crag
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Good thing he left if he's gonna remove the most alive thread ever

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But what was his user?

brittle cliff
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Controversial but smart

strange geyser
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dev logs should be weekly

heavy nexus
deft swan
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im sorry but what does this have to do with the suggestion?

heavy nexus
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People said the same thing about the other thread about it being part of the servers history and not everyone knew what happened to it.

heavy nexus
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Someone said something about what if it gets deleted and the point I was making is that it probably wouldn’t.

tribal crag
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Nvm, I found the user

strange geyser
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weekly updates with ads could work

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bi monthly is a little to long

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also weekly dev logs cause i love those

deft swan
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you do realise

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the patches

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will bassically have nothing in them?

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I would rather wait for bigger patches

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than get small and insignificant ones every week

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also ads??

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wdym by ads?

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ads in a 40$ games is just 💀

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or do you mean advertise the game?

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cause they did that

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alot

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even got mr beast

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and look how that turned out

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and they cant just burn money to advertise the game

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especially after the disaster that was the launch

strange geyser
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wow

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you need to chill

deft swan
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im just saying

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what you proposed

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is bad

brittle cliff
polar arch
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If you want significant content added into HN2, then don't ask for weekly updates

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It takes a long time to add significant content to a game, and the devs are already being rushed with monthly updates

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they'd be even more burnt out if they were forced to do weekly updates

strange geyser
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ok ok ok nvm

lethal bramble
tribal crag