Impossible to win with mild lag.

[swift iris]

Neighbors already have a huge advantage, but if you spend 20 minutes and go through all the work to get keys, you're going to lose anyway. The neighbor can stand behind the basement door and catch you. There isn't a workaround for kids: if the neighbor is stunned, he recovers quickly enough to grab even a buffed leader. If you try to hit the neighbor, he can close the door and recover, and reopening the door to hit him multiple times through the doorway is impossible due to the time restrictions.

I want to say, there would be some good workarounds for this such as giving coins per key opened, or giving a reward for crossing the basement door rather than for getting all the way to the disappearing point.

Or if the neighbor could not grab within the basement area...

Anyway, I greatly appreciate your reading. Thank you for your attention.

[finite ledge]

ik

they should make

stun time

higher

for neighbor

its pretty stinky when you stun the neighbor

and get caught anyway 30 feet away

[finite ledge]

they should make stun time

2 seconds

when neighbor get stunned

not 0 seconds

[candid spruce]

i mean the kids can throw away items frequently to make the neighbor dissapear (neighbor teleporting to the secret area stunned for 21 seconds)

[terse hatch]

would be better when Kids Win at times up and not the neighbor win.

[candid spruce]

that would be stupid

[robust widget]

that ruins the entire point of trying to get keys and go into the basement

[terse hatch]

or adding a Tie. Let the neighbor win for camping is also not that good

[vivid siren]

camping is something that the neighbor doesn't have to but can do

things like scary neighbors traps are specifically made for camping or clowns camouflage

there's a gun around the map which easily can counter any camper you just have to be careful

[vivid siren]

the kids have a bigger advantage because they can stay in groups and also they got an even bigger advantage due to the recent stamina changes

you don't even need a group you can literally 1v1 every neighbor so the neighbors only change to win against the last kid is camping

[robust widget]

campers are hard to counter but if you keep throwing items at them they either have to move, which gives you a chance to get past them, or they die. but this doesnt always work and works better with more than one person

[candid spruce]

yeah

[swift iris]

Only in less than half of games.

[swift iris]

A doorway is a natural choke point: there's a limit to how much even a high-skill team could throw through a doorway and consistently hit targets.

[candid spruce]

toygun exsists

[finite ledge]

secret area

[vivid siren]

what do you mean by secret area?

neighbor room?

if the neighbor was camping and then going to the neighbor room because he's low on health then the kid could easily open the door

[candid spruce]

yes

[swift iris]

You don't play the game, right?

Kids unlock the basement door without unlocking any level 2-4 doors...

neighbors pick up 2 kids and vanish them instantaneously from across the map

this is like 5/6 games

I dunno, I'm just going to play private lobbies.

[finite ledge]

neighbor camping is caca