secret-neighbor

[coral valley]

Dirty clothing

[limpid lava]

like it doesn't make sense that he goes
normal
lol im pale and crazy
normal

[coral valley]

And his face is messed up

[limpid lava]

i think its more intimidating, but his "angry face" ruins it for me

[coral valley]

I remember that the house was so dark in the alphas

You actually got lost

Exploring

[limpid lava]

i prefer that crazed smile, that almost demonic look that horrified you to the coor

[coral valley]

And it made the game scary

[limpid lava]

then in full release they just make him look like he's angry baby that needs milk

[coral valley]

Yes

Btw I see an has been removing details like different wood colors on different dressers and cabinets and stuff

And the ambience music

And the leaves at front door

I wonder what's next to be removed

[limpid lava]

and just look at this screenshot, its absolutely beautiful

why did they butcher it so much later on

[cunning spire]

Why the lighting tho, in my opinion it's based on gameplay.

idc abt the lighting but i would love to have it back ngl.

[coral valley]

I'm guessing the next thing to be removed from sn is the shooting stars

Are*

[winged scroll]

Hi

[limpid lava]

i feel like the lighting is a good part of the ambience, and the ambience is very important in a spooky game

[coral valley]

The lighting made the gameplay better

It made it scarier

[limpid lava]

like a big part of the gameplay is that you're on edge, and feel afraid. everything being dark and you can't see stuff amplified that

[cunning spire]

ye

oo and it might keep ppl from box spamming

like using flashlights only

:/

[thick furnace]

now flashlights serve no purose other then blinding ppl

[limpid lava]

just add the pickup delay from the alphas, that worked

also whoever that is can you please stop spamming the pie emoji, you aren't funny

[marsh cargo]

@main moth Stop

[coral valley]

Details from sn alphas sn devs have not removed Yet:
Shooting stars
Plastic walking sounds
Smaller items like binoculars and apples

[main moth]

:(

[cunning spire]

I was abt to say doesn't that count as emoji spam?

[limpid lava]

i think it does

[cunning spire]

guess that's my answer

[marsh cargo]

Counts as reactions spam

[cunning spire]

oh ok

[main moth]

Indeed

[limpid lava]

i think i remember there being more sound effects in the halloween alpha for tiles

then they removed those in later versions so now we only have 3 or something

[cunning spire]

and footstep noises

[coral valley]

I remember the old walking sounds for kids

They were nice and quiet

And couldn't be heard from 5 rooms away

[cunning spire]

especially the kitchen ones

[limpid lava]

the neighbor transformation being silent was a big plus too

he could actually sneak up on players back then and jump scare them

[cunning spire]

ikr

[coral valley]

Heck the devs even removed a feature in a christmas patch

[limpid lava]

now when you transform its like "hey everybody, the neighbor has transformed and is about to kill someone, head over and spam him immediately"

[cunning spire]

it was hilarious and terrifying for me at the same time.

[limpid lava]

i think in pre xmas alpha builds they used a lot more HN sound effects

[coral valley]

I remember when transforming behind a kid to catch them by surprise actually worked

[limpid lava]

then they added more original sound design

[copper tartan]

[cunning spire]

I'm sure they did

have HN door sounds

i watched YT videos and hear them sometimes

[slate loom]

I remember they remove a ? room in the Easter alpha

[limpid lava]

one of my friends actually got to play pre alpha 2 when it was a thing

he got a key from a youtuber friend

[cunning spire]

hmm

hard to believe ngl but alrighty

[limpid lava]

i didnt get to play until halloween alpha

cuz that was when they started a wider playtesting then influencers

[coral valley]

I played a pre alpha version

But I got the code thing from a friend

[limpid lava]

ngl i think xmas alpha and the beta were the best versions

[cunning spire]

:/

xmas is when i started

[coral valley]

I liked christmas alpha and halloween release

[slate loom]

Halloween alpha is laggy because theres no graphics option

[limpid lava]

i liked halloween alpha but it ran horribly

[cunning spire]

Also i think it's truly fake now because the way you said that sentence, but who am i to argue.

not u samuel

[limpid lava]

i got a way better framerate on xmas alpha than any other version

[cunning spire]

i lagged but was too hyped to care

[limpid lava]

like you turned down 2 or 3 settings and you were getting 120fps

at least on a good pc

[slate loom]

Yeah the Xmas alpha runs better than other version

Including release version

[cunning spire]

my PC can run RDR2 on the lowest settings so idk how xmas lagged it

[limpid lava]

now even when i turn down the resolution to the lowest and turn down every single graphics setting, it doesn't reach above an inconsistent 90

[coral valley]

I played the alphas on my old laptop (not made for any kind of gaming) and it ran christmas alpha perfectly

[limpid lava]

ok im just gonna say it, xmas alpha was the best version of the game

[coral valley]

It was

[cunning spire]

obv

[slate loom]

Agreed

[cunning spire]

but it was sorta buggy

but that's a alpha for ya

[coral valley]

Imagine xmas alpha with le

[limpid lava]

good mechanics, good optimization, good customization, and fantastic ambience

[coral valley]

Perfect combo

[slate loom]

The neighbor with Christmas outfit from the alpha

[cunning spire]

I hoped they added his XMAS Alpha uniform to full release's Xmas update but sadly i let my hopes too high.

[limpid lava]

POV: its december 2018 and you're playing xmas alpha with the boys, everyone else has been caught except for you and one friend, there's 3 minutes on the clock and ambience 3 is playing. you're rushing though the house looking for keys while avoiding the neighbor.

[coral valley]

Oh godd

I just left the match at hat point

I was too scared

[cunning spire]

the ambience gets intense

[limpid lava]

that happened to me once in the alpha and we lost

[slate loom]

Yeah

Ambience 3 music is sound more intense like rushing for keys to open the basement door until neighbor finding you

[coral valley]

I dont see any reason why the devs removed it

[limpid lava]

i found the room where the key was but time ran out just as i found it

[coral valley]

In summer update

Therre was nothing wrong with it

[limpid lava]

i think they removed it in easter version

[cunning spire]

the neighbor had radar always

when i was the last kid

[coral valley]

And the loading music only comes up sometimes doing le

[limpid lava]

the loading music is still there in the files, it just doesn't play anymore

i don't get why, it was nice and relaxing to prepare you for the intense match ahead

[coral valley]

I dont get it

Why did they remove

[cunning spire]

ikr

[coral valley]

These features

[limpid lava]

why did they remove blocking

[coral valley]

Like loading music

[limpid lava]

it was such a useful feature for the neighbor

to prevent dying

[coral valley]

The neighbor now loses against 1 little kid with a box

I know

Anyways

[limpid lava]

anyone remember how the cage room was basically useless for a while

since there were no drawers or fridges in there back then

[coral valley]

Yeah

[slate loom]

I remember neighbor shaking the kid in the Halloween alpha-Christmas alpha

Easter alpha-full release version

Neighbor carrying a kid and turns them a mannequin

[limpid lava]

also remember when prop disguise was really slow and had a horrible jump?

i believe it was like that until the beta

[slate loom]

Yeah it feel so weird

[limpid lava]

it was only good for surprise attacks back then, now its a good mobility tool for the clown if you run out of stamina

its super loud though so i dont like that

i prefer the old system for how much quieter it was

[coral valley]

Its use rn is to camp

And rather get shot

Or win too easily

[limpid lava]

i have this really good twitch clip from the halloween alpha where some streamer got killed by the neighbor using the pumpkin disguise and he just laughed to death

that's a good alpha memory for me

[slate loom]

Did you guys realize the alpha loading screen was quicker than release version during launch a game

[limpid lava]

the alpha loading screen was quicker but it was a lot more dull

[coral valley]

Rounds almost started instantly

[limpid lava]

just a clock spinning around rather than that classic image of the kids breaking in while the neighbor shushes you

though i do prefer how much quicker it loaded

[slate loom]

The match loading screen is quick but the launch loading screen is not

[coral valley]

I find it strange sn has had no issues until they added classes

[limpid lava]

i think the full game's title screen takes about a minute for me

[slate loom]

Same

[coral valley]

Which nobody asked for

[limpid lava]

i hate hearing those super loud movie sound effects when im just trying to hop on to play some quick game matches

like yeah i get it, tinyBuild and hologryph made this game can i just get on with it already

[coral valley]

Sn is the only hn game

Without space to skip that stuff

[slate loom]

I remember the pre-alpha to Halloween alpha have no fall damage until Christmas alpha

[limpid lava]

yeah it was better than having fall damage, still prefer the HN2 system though

its a good in between in my opinion

also chasing was a lot scarier back then

the neighbor just felt more terrifying

[frigid wasp]

it used to have a vignette when the neighbor was chasing you

[slate loom]

The chasing music is so good

It’s better than both HN games

[frigid wasp]

which made it a bit scarier

[limpid lava]

the SN chase music is god tier

it jumps out at you with its loud start, and its horrifying melody with twisted instruments throughout

[coral valley]

Yeah

[slate loom]

It’s way more terrifying

[coral valley]

They were bringing back the old feel of the pre alpha chase music

[mint birch]

I love the SN chase music

When I first heard it, I was actually scared

[coral valley]

Lemme guess it's being removed in map4 update

[slate loom]

I hope not

[half lichen]

It’s probably becoming neighbor sees you based in the map 4 update

And map 4 is just a super open area

[limpid lava]

here's my list of chase music throughout all the games, from best to worst
SN
HN2
HN pre alpha
all the HN alpha 1 stuff, they're about equal to me
HN full game chase music
hide and seek chase music

[slate loom]

Pre-alpha music is good but I don’t want to reuse the old music

[half lichen]

With like 4 rooms

[coral valley]

Imagine if an had a 2nd chase music

For clown neighbor

[frigid wasp]

The hell was the chase music for HS anyway?

[limpid lava]

i feel like a more carnival sounding theme would be fitting for the c lass

class*

[slate loom]

Yeah

[half lichen]

Alpha 2 basement music maybe?

[limpid lava]

nah that one was too short tbh

[slate loom]

Nah

It doesn’t sound scary

[coral valley]

Maybe a carnival remix of the sn chase music

[limpid lava]

ooh yeah

[slate loom]

Yeah that one

[coral valley]

It would be cool if the screen shaking effects were shown a bit mire

When you enter chase mode

Rn if chase music plays your screen shakes a tiny bit

Not enough to notice when actually playing

[limpid lava]

i think it was a thing in pre alpha versions of SN that the screen corners would darken when he was around

i want that back

[coral valley]

They did

It didnt make it scarier though

[limpid lava]

not a major addition, just a nice little touch

[coral valley]

What if the made it so the darkening got more and more intense the closer he gets to you

[limpid lava]

like i won't be devastated if they never add it back, it was just a small nice little touch to add to the intense feeling of being chased

[coral valley]

And the screen shaking too

[limpid lava]

you mean like in hello neighbor?

[half lichen]

No

No near effect

That would ruin the horror

[limpid lava]

yeah i agree

[coral valley]

How

[limpid lava]

i feel like the chase music is good enough for me

[slate loom]

I remember neighbor says a word when he got a kid like

Booyah, Hello, And Hey voice lines

[coral valley]

The hello was so casual

[slate loom]

It’s funnier in my opinion

[half lichen]

grabs child
Hello

[limpid lava]

imagine gripping someone on the shoulder and lifting them up like you're about to throw them in the lake then say "hello." like you're talking to a friend

[coral valley]

Imagine if sn had aching were theres only 1 kid left

And your the last kid

[limpid lava]

i usually give up when im the last kid lol

[coral valley]

The screen loses a bit of color

[half lichen]

It used to do that

[limpid lava]

it does do that when the basement is opened

[coral valley]

And the creepy time running out ambience plays

It used to

But not anymore

[mint birch]

I love the ambience, it’s so creepy

[limpid lava]

oh really? wow, they remove all the little touches

[coral valley]

Well its removed now

[limpid lava]

SN feels so empty now

[coral valley]

They even removed the leaves at the front door

They also removed the crickets

[mint birch]

Wait they removed the ambiance? For pc?

[coral valley]

When you were outside

[limpid lava]

there's barely any updates, the ambience is non existent, the game just feels dead quiet

[coral valley]

Mhm

[limpid lava]

and its unsettling

[coral valley]

The only ambience we have now

Is the fridge humming

[half lichen]

Yeah because the game is so quiet you can hear the neighbor from almost anywhere

[coral valley]

Mhm

[mint birch]

Ambiance needs to be added back

[coral valley]

Also seeing that they are removing all the small touches to the game

[half lichen]

And the neighbor needs to be silenced

Or just quieter

[coral valley]

I'm guessing they are removing the volumetric clouds from sn

Since those are small touches too

Oh and the shooting stars

[mint birch]

The ambiance is so unsettling and it fits so well

[limpid lava]

also is it just me or is full game really dull with its colors

it feels almost lifeless

[half lichen]

Why is everything shiny

[mint birch]

grease

[half lichen]

This isn’t Mario kart Wii this is Secret Neighbor

[slate loom]

I remember the map have school, police station, gas station but we have now is

........cardboard

[coral valley]

Why do all the rooms look the same now

Just with different combos

Of wallpaper

And drawers

[limpid lava]

remember the free cam when spectating

that was nice

[coral valley]

It was

[slate loom]

Yeah sadly it was remove

[coral valley]

They could add it back

[mint birch]

The first two maps were great but I hate the third one because it’s not really a house

[coral valley]

Since le has freecam

[limpid lava]

you pressed space bar and got to see everything, i remember someone making a mod for it to add it back in full release, but then they stopped supporting it

the free cam would be good for trailers

like community maps

[coral valley]

Yeah

[limpid lava]

you could have one guy die and basically be the camera man

[coral valley]

Also I'm pretty sure an removed the creaky floors too

In summer uldste

[half lichen]

And the flickering lights

[coral valley]

I remember in all sn versions but summer update

[limpid lava]

the flickering lights are still here, well i think in just one room in map 2

[half lichen]

Which might have been a bug but I liked jt

[coral valley]

Sometimes if you walk on wood is makes a creak sound

They weren't bugs

Since they made sounds

[limpid lava]

remember the ominous feeling of being the last kid alive, desperately searching the house for keys, while hearing that beeping sound from the hand sonar while ambience 3 haunts you throw the entire experience

[coral valley]

Yeah

[limpid lava]

man it really put me on edge

[coral valley]

Now it's ok I killed neighbor with a box again

[half lichen]

I loved the sonar sound

[coral valley]

Got last key

[half lichen]

But then it became metal thud

[coral valley]

Now to fight neighbor for fun and kill him

Then win

[slate loom]

Kids from the alpha have no ability so they screwed

[half lichen]

I remember seeing the neighbor while being the last kid alive back in the Halloween alpha and feeling so helpless

[coral valley]

If they were alone they were screwed

[limpid lava]

kids and neighbor were more evenly balanced back then

they had no special abilities, so all they could rely on was items around the house and their teammates

and the neighbor could mix and match his abilities to his choosing

[half lichen]

And the item spawnrates where low

[coral valley]

Rn the neighbor is just that small annoyance that takes 30 seconds to deal with

[half lichen]

And there was more strategy, you had to plan instead of just rushing to the attic

[limpid lava]

i liked the unpredictability of the neighbor loadout, every match you didn't know what to expect

[half lichen]

He was quiet too

[coral valley]

Yeah

[limpid lava]

the neighbor could have a smoke bomb, or a sonar, a prop, or a mask, you didn't know what he could do so you wouldn't know what he's capable of until he uses them on you

[coral valley]

Doesnt even look like the sn devs even Cate about the game anymore

No update in a month and a half

Thye have been banning any hackers lately

[limpid lava]

im hoping they're just preparing for a big halloween update

[coral valley]

Havnt*

[limpid lava]

to bring the game back

[half lichen]

I’m hoping this next update is huge

Balancing changes

LE improvements

[coral valley]

I hope it fixes the constant bugs and glitches we get

[half lichen]

Cool cosmetics, bug fixes, new neighbor class

[limpid lava]

if they added a new class the HN2 neighbor would be a good fit imo

he has a different enough physical appearance to be interesting

[half lichen]

All we know is it’s not the guest

[limpid lava]

and while i think the guest would have a more interesting moveset, he's not the neighbor so no

[coral valley]

I hope the halloween update actually comes out while halloween is still relavant

They are always updating sn with seasonal updates like a week too late

[limpid lava]

i feel like the halloween event should start in the beginning of october instead of the middle of it like they did with the alpha and full release

[half lichen]

I miss Halloween decorations

[limpid lava]

i think they did easter build in may so that's a while ago

[slate loom]

What about Secret Neighbor 1st anniversary update

[half lichen]

Birthday cosmetics for the neighbor

And all classes

[coral valley]

Prob free cosmetics

[mint birch]

Yes

[coral valley]

Well we know what ever the next update is

Its huge

[mint birch]

Definitely

[half lichen]

I’m hoping the clown gets a new face animation

Why is he mad

He is clown

Clown go >:) not >:(

[coral valley]

Imagine if the entire update is neighbor stamina reduced by 5%

Wait wong thing

[limpid lava]

the other neighbor should have that smile too

[half lichen]

Imagine the update removed stamina

I hope it does tbh

[limpid lava]

the neighbor is supposed to be scary, not look like he needs milkie

[half lichen]

Would make chases a lot more intense

[mint birch]

Neighbor should have >:)

[half lichen]

He should have an evil grin, clown should have a crazed grin

[mint birch]

Yes

Perfect

[half lichen]

Not just a grin, a wide open smile

One pupil is larger than the other

[mint birch]

Oh wow

[limpid lava]

also the disguise mask should be with clown

he's supposed to be the one with a lot of tricks

[mint birch]

IKR

[half lichen]

I’ve been saying that

But people always dislike the suggestion

[limpid lava]

the neighbor should have offensive abilities, not disguises that belong to the trickster

[mint birch]

Yeah

[limpid lava]

because its obvious there's supposed to be 2 play styles for the neighbor, aggressive, strong, and quick (for normal / scary neighbor) and clever, strategic, and manipulative (for the clown)

i feel like for scary neighbor you could give the mask to clown, and give him a new third move like the fire extinguisher

[coral valley]

What happened to the neighbor being sneaky

[limpid lava]

it all changed when they made kids op in the full version with spam throwing

now sneakiness is out the window with speed demon children and your only reliable option is to be aggressive and rush the kids over and over and slowly pick them off

which will probably take like 10 minutes

[mint birch]

Oof

Neighbor does need a buff

[coral valley]

By then some detective already found all the kids

Keys*

[limpid lava]

barely anyone i meet is a good detective player tbh

[mint birch]

Yeah

[cunning spire]

rip me

i'm decent

[limpid lava]

there's either a lot of braves or new players trying detective because he comes with the promise of finding the keys

[coral valley]

Keys arent rare

Just use bagger

[cunning spire]

Some thing about brave doesn't feel right anymore.

[limpid lava]

ngl i would say that for the entire game

[coral valley]

If you think about it

[cunning spire]

Like i'm tired of seeing that character

[limpid lava]

something just feels wrong about it

[cunning spire]

or atleast 4 of them

[coral valley]

The house isnt that big

[mint birch]

During Halloween, it was really fun to play

[coral valley]

You find like 2 keys in 1 room now

[limpid lava]

i feel like the neighbor should have more control over the house

[mint birch]

Yess

[limpid lava]

with more traps and tricks to capture the players

[coral valley]

Hidden traps maybe

Like more gates

[mint birch]

Tunnels like the pilot?

[limpid lava]

add the gates and teleporters to all maps, add back the bricked off doors for a different experience every match, maybe even add randomized pre placed beartraps

[cunning spire]

good idea

[coral valley]

Yes

[cunning spire]

maybe put that in feedback?

[coral valley]

If you say that in feedback I'll upvote

[mint birch]

We should put this all in feedback

[limpid lava]

doing that now

[cunning spire]

agreed

[mint birch]

Same

[limpid lava]

copy and pasted it cuz im lazy lmao

plus i think i already worded it good

[cunning spire]

i would be lazy too

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/741762013017145389/741848295001030676/ca18ade2-aab7-47cb-9ea1-9ca99c36533f.mp4

[limpid lava]

seriously, if the neighbor knows 5 kids are breaking into his home he should come pre prepared

[cunning spire]

ikr

nicky already did

[coral valley]

Instead he gets obliterated by boxes

[cunning spire]

XD

[half lichen]

I hate it when people break into my house and then beat the hell out of me with boxes

[coral valley]

Same

[cunning spire]

even an experienced player like me gets killed by 100's of brave's by a single weapon, boxes. They legit fire their heavy artillery on me everytime.

[half lichen]

I hate brave

[cunning spire]

same ngl

[coral valley]

Its annoying when kids break into my housez shoot me with a gun and ransacked all of my private property expecting keys

[limpid lava]

boxes are everywhere with no cooldown or delay and makes it super easy to spam

lets be real, if SN was realistic the neighbor would just call the cops and frame the kids to say he was an innocent man and they were breaking into his home and stealing his stuff

[half lichen]

Boxes shouldn’t even deal damage and should just be used for stunning

They’re boxes

[cunning spire]

i honestly feel bad for a CHARACTER, which is the neighbor bc hes been tortured ALOT by these children

[coral valley]

They shoudm throw slow

Should*

[limpid lava]

what if they just removed the neighbor's health? that was how it was in the pre alphas i believe

[coral valley]

Alsof×hghtkrjii h

[half lichen]

Yeah he was unstoppable

[coral valley]

Crap

[half lichen]

But that’s unfair kinda

[coral valley]

Phone had another seizure

[cunning spire]

No? he died

i think

[half lichen]

Not in the early builds

[limpid lava]

i feel like you should run away from him and occasionally throw boxes to slow him down, not rush him to make sure he dies

[half lichen]

Like early early

[cunning spire]

How do we know this?

[limpid lava]

youtuber footage

[coral valley]

I would like sn if running from.the neighbor is a better choice than fighting him

[limpid lava]

i dont think he ever died in the youtuber pre alphas

[cunning spire]

running is smarter

but

[coral valley]

Fighting is smarter

[cunning spire]

u will eventually get killed

[limpid lava]

everyone chooses to fight cuz spamming

[coral valley]

If you run he will catch you from 20 feet away

[frigid wasp]

he was able to die he just needed like 10 box hits or something

[coral valley]

If you fight he will die

[cunning spire]

unless

box spam was gone

[limpid lava]

either way, i feel like the neighbor should have increased health

[coral valley]

Yes

[limpid lava]

that way there's less of a reason to fight because he would be tougher to kill

[cunning spire]

yea the neighbor is a adult

well

[limpid lava]

i get having 5 extra hit points is nice, but maybe having like 12 or something would be better

[cunning spire]

taller

yes

[coral valley]

The neighbor should be able to easily take on any alone kid

But shouldn't be able to take on a group

So he cant just jump into action

[limpid lava]

well in that case he needs to be able to separate the kids

[coral valley]

Yeah

With more gates and traps

And ways to frame other kids

[limpid lava]

remember when there was a gate in the kitchen

[coral valley]

Yeah

[limpid lava]

and they kept it up until full release

[coral valley]

It blocked 4th floor hall

[limpid lava]

i think it was kinda dumb to remove it tbh

[coral valley]

It was

[limpid lava]

it was even used in the trailer

for scout's death

[coral valley]

I liked how the neighbor won in the trailer

Seperating scout and brave

Using somemmagical device far away

[limpid lava]

lol no there was a clock right next to him

[coral valley]

And catching scout

Oh wait yeah

The clock was far away from the gate

[limpid lava]

so he probably snuck up on them disguised as a kid, turned the gate, then transformed and caught scout

[slate loom]

I remember the garage had gates as well but right now

Doors

[coral valley]

Yyp

[limpid lava]

i kinda liked it when there was more gates

tbh the neighbor just felt a lot more controlling back then

[coral valley]

Also I dont lie the garage door in the current version

Its slightly smaller than crouch height

So if you wanna go under it it takes a while

For your player to finally clip under it

And crouching under

[limpid lava]

he could turn the gates at will, he could place down traps, some doors were completely blocked off, it really felt like he was a dungeon master in his house

[slate loom]

I remember the garage door supposed to be closed but right now is open so I guess is good but not really to crawl into it

[coral valley]

They need to higher the garage door by like 1 cm

When crouching and walking at it

[limpid lava]

it would be nice if the neighbor could crawl through there

[coral valley]

It takes a bit

[slate loom]

Or maybe add a lever for garage door

[coral valley]

Or garage door is a neighbor gate type

Like a trap

[limpid lava]

what if the garage door could be locked off too

[coral valley]

So if a kid wants to escape through garage door

[limpid lava]

like the bricks covered it up

[coral valley]

He can close it on them

[limpid lava]

yeah that's smart

[coral valley]

Also an should update curtains

To allow you to hide behind them

As a silent hiding place

[limpid lava]

you should be able to hide under beds too

[coral valley]

Yeah

[slate loom]

Yeah but is easy to spot them because the kids legs

[coral valley]

Lower rhem

[limpid lava]

you could make the curtains reach the ground

[cunning spire]

I never remembered a round as a Kid in a intense match against the neighbor

[coral valley]

That's why is aid update the curtains

[slate loom]

Hiding under the bed is good

But the neighbor is too big to crawl in

[coral valley]

Also what if they make it so it takes longer to bust down a door as a kid

[limpid lava]

he could do the thing like in HN where he looks underneath the bed

[coral valley]

So blocking a door and catching a kid

As neighbor actually works

[limpid lava]

also the neighbor should have boards so he can lock up doors or windows manually

and they can be broken down with a crowbar

or a hammer

[coral valley]

What if doors work like how they did in hn2

Where they wont fully open

If theres a heavy item

In the way

So you can place like a stack of boxes down

To block a door

[limpid lava]

i feel like chairs should take a little longer to break down as the neighbor

it feels a little unfair

[mint birch]

But neighbor is already kinda underpowered

So might as well let him break down doors faster

[coral valley]

I think the point of using chairs

[limpid lava]

actually yeah

[coral valley]

Is to help the neighbor

Seperate kids

But it doesnt work

[limpid lava]

though it feels like it takes the same amount of time to knock down chairs as the neighbor and the kid

[coral valley]

Because they are too easy to break down

[limpid lava]

because for a kid it takes 3 kinda long hits to break down, while for the neighbor it takes 5 shorter hits to break down

which equals to the same amount of time

well near that

[coral valley]

Also what if the game adds in floor traps

[limpid lava]

what if that trap the guest had in HN2 was added

[coral valley]

Like gates on the floor leading to a key zone

And to cross it you had to really make sure

The neighbor isnt ready to open up the floor

[limpid lava]

you know, the one with the rock that knocked you down and made you lose all your items? that would be a unique trap to add for the neighbor here

[coral valley]

Wait what if gate locations on the maps are random

And hard to spot as a kid

[limpid lava]

that would be really hard to determine

[coral valley]

But when your neighbor you get an x ray of all locations

[limpid lava]

how would it work for LE maps if they added it there?

[coral valley]

Idk

Le maps dont even have as much freedom

As the normal maps do

[limpid lava]

imagine the gate just blocks off all the doors by accident and your only option of getting in the house is throw windows

[coral valley]

Oh yes

[limpid lava]

through*

[coral valley]

Gate doors

[limpid lava]

actually i was considering making a map about that

map 1, but all the doors are blocked

[coral valley]

Also it's too easy to get around the maps now

You can get to roof instantly with no keycards

[limpid lava]

they should remove that little pipe by the roof gate

[half lichen]

Slips

I mean skips

[coral valley]

That pipe is from the furnace

In boiler room

[half lichen]

No

It’s from the portal thing that’s gone now

[limpid lava]

well they've used custom models before so they can lower it

[coral valley]

Yeah

Also hes talking about a different pipe goose

[limpid lava]

but anyway, its too easy to throw a chair on there and skip onto the roof

[coral valley]

Its from the small furnace behind the door in 3rd floor boiler room

Yeah

[limpid lava]

so i would suggest either making it a lot taller, or removing it completely

so that way you have to get to the roof normally

with a keycard

[coral valley]

Yeah

What if they make it so all of the steep roofs are too slippery to stand on

And it requires you

To use platforms

To get around

That would fix most getting onto roof with no keycard issues

[limpid lava]

so that would mean no safe area on the big roof tiles?

like as soon as you fall down on one, you're going to the ground

[half lichen]

Map 3 is skip heaven

[coral valley]

So just add those

Metal pipe things

That are on the edges of the roof

[half lichen]

And it makes it really unfun to play as neighbor when you’re against a skip user

[limpid lava]

you can skip a 3 keycard door just by going around the edges of the gates on that one area above the neighbor's panic room

[coral valley]

Mhm

[half lichen]

Just make the level 3 door at the top of the stairs

[limpid lava]

true

[coral valley]

You can also get onto the level 3 bedroom place

[limpid lava]

that would work

[coral valley]

Using a double jump

Bug

[half lichen]

I made an entire video on how to fix all the skips in map 3. Surely they’re gonna get fixed in the next update

[limpid lava]

imo map 3 feels rushed

[half lichen]

right haha

[coral valley]

I believe those skips were added on purpose

They purposely added skips on map2

[limpid lava]

i remember when map 3 came out, i was confused on why they didn't do testing

like they did for map 2

[coral valley]

Same

[limpid lava]

like, the map improved because of that testing

and now we aren't doing that here? mk.

[half lichen]

And map 3 needed testing

[limpid lava]

also i remember how press release players got all the halloween skins then lost them when the game released for everyone, that annoyed me

[half lichen]

Yeah well certain people get all payed skins for free just because reasons, that annoys me

[limpid lava]

like bruh i got private access to your game before the final release, and i don't get any cosmetic that proves i was there? or the halloween skins? that kinda sucks

i only got the detective and neighbor halloween skins

[half lichen]

I wanted early access to SN so bad :((

But alas, I did not get early access and had to wait

[limpid lava]

like tf2 has a hat that proves you were playing the game before it went free to play, why doesn't SN have a similar thing for press release?

[half lichen]

And because hardly anybody got it

[coral valley]

Btw I wonder what they will have for us in halloween uldate

[limpid lava]

maybe like a neighbor mustache for all the kids for something

[coral valley]

They have 3 maps to decorate

And a le to add stuff to

[half lichen]

They better have a Halloween decoration update

If not I’m cancelling SN

I’m shutting down the servers

[limpid lava]

im really hyped for the halloween update

[half lichen]

Hopefully they make new costumes

[coral valley]

I hope tower returns

[half lichen]

And don’t just release the old ones

[limpid lava]

halloween is one of my favorite holidays so i can't wait to see what the SN team does this time

[half lichen]

Halloween is also one of my favorite holidays

But if you’re neighbor I hope you’re prepared for pumpkin spam

Wheeeee

[limpid lava]

lol i hope they fix spam throwing by that time

[coral valley]

Let's all just pray the snowstorm doesnt return with the next xmas hodate

Update*

[limpid lava]

though they replaced most of the pumpkins with boxes so not that much will change

[half lichen]

Screw that stupid snowstorm

[limpid lava]

i like the snowstorm actually, it gave the neighbor an advantage

[coral valley]

I go to pick up my rifle

[limpid lava]

it should be optional in custom game if it returns though

[coral valley]

And it picks up snowball

And I die

[half lichen]

IKR

[limpid lava]

the snowballs weren't a part of the storm though

[half lichen]

I’ve died so many times because I want to grab an item but whoops I grab a snowball instead

[limpid lava]

they were just part of the snow on the ground

[half lichen]

Hahah now I’m dead

Yay

[coral valley]

The storm created snow

[limpid lava]

so you could keep the slowness thing, but remove the snowballs

[coral valley]

Yes

[half lichen]

And of course the fact that snowballs could be created infinitely

[limpid lava]

i remember after the snowstorm subsided, you could still craft snowballs

[half lichen]

And how they did the same amount of damage as a box

[coral valley]

I wonder what they will do for thankgiving

Will they just read turkey avain

Or do something special this time

[limpid lava]

remember the HGP arg and everyone thought you had to create a line of snowmen to help solve the code

man i hate those snowballs even more because of it

[half lichen]

That’s what it basically implied

[coral valley]

Scary thing is

[half lichen]

Line them up in a row and they will show you how or something

It was weird

And dumb

[coral valley]

You can still get snow in the game

Rn

[limpid lava]

right, the map 2 fridge

[half lichen]

Fridge

[coral valley]

Yup

[limpid lava]

at least there's only a few of them

[coral valley]

Still infinite of them technically

[limpid lava]

how

[coral valley]

Just keep grabbing and grabbing snow

From the fridge

[limpid lava]

oh

[coral valley]

Theres no limit

[limpid lava]

also i feel like the snowstorm could come back as a permanent thing, as an optional thing in custom game where its rain instead

no snowballs, but a rainstorm with the slowness thing

[coral valley]

Rain would be awesome

But pointless

Maybe it adds fog

[limpid lava]

i was thinking it served the same purpose as the snowstorm

[versed whale]

Wait as like a weather aspect into the game???

[limpid lava]

so you could technically add that back and it would still be fitting for the season

[coral valley]

Imahime how co the neighbors bright carlight would look

In fog

[limpid lava]

also for fall make the grass duller and the trees red orange and yellow

[coral valley]

Imagine*

[versed whale]

That would be cool

[half lichen]

Maybe the rain would distort your vision

[coral valley]

Yeah

[half lichen]

Like rain does when it comes in contact with your eyes

[coral valley]

If you look up

[limpid lava]

like maybe it would get all blurry

[coral valley]

And the fog allows the neighbor to be secretive

When he catches people

Imagien seeing the neighbors shadow in the fog too

With he chase music playing

[limpid lava]

ngl though i hate the normal fog

its kinda ugly

[coral valley]

It is

[slate loom]

Yeah

[coral valley]

I do like the interior fog though

Where its black on the first floor

[versed whale]

If rain was like this

Sorry the only example I could remember just look at the rain

[coral valley]

What if sn had good map randomization

Like

Bricked doors

[limpid lava]

ngl, i listen to the SN ambience regularly because its that good

[coral valley]

Rain on some rounds

[limpid lava]

like ambience 1 is the good stuff

[coral valley]

Yes

Its sad it gone thoigh

[limpid lava]

man it just feels like all the atmosphere is kinda dead

[coral valley]

Ambience layer 1 is creepy as really scary when running out of time

Layer 2 gets you pumped up

Layer 3 is just intense

[limpid lava]

ambience 1 is great for when you're alone and outside

[coral valley]

Yeah

[limpid lava]

because its really nerve wrecking in that context

[coral valley]

It's weird that it counts as music though

If you turn music volumenoff

[slate loom]

Do you know drawers and cabinets have different texture

Right now we only have default texture

[coral valley]

The ambience goes awaybtoo

Away too*

[versed whale]

Honestly I personally feel they should add a DLC type thing

To help enhance the game a bit

Maybe for the build mode or whatever it new characters

[limpid lava]

they should make an updated version of this render, its really good

[versed whale]

Omg ikr

Ok I don’t know if it’s for everyone but the game is pretty laggy for me

[half lichen]

Turn down your graphics

[versed whale]

Oh ok

[limpid lava]

that barely does anything

for me

[versed whale]

I will do that when I get back on

[limpid lava]

i still get around 80 fps no matter what i do

[versed whale]

Nice I think lol

I’m more of a person who loves adding new characters tho

[limpid lava]

even when i make the game look like a ps1 area game it still doesn't reach above the setting that high graphics give me

[versed whale]

So if they ever did add a DLC with new characters that would be cool

Nice

[half lichen]

You liked adding new characters? If they are anything like mine I’m suing you

[limpid lava]

i just want customizable kids back man

[half lichen]

Don’t worry bro I got you

With the alpha kid class

[versed whale]

Ok I don’t know what person would have this ability but there should be a kid who ho can access a sonar as a ability

[half lichen]

He’s slower Than the other kids, can’t box spam, weaker jump, takes more fall damage, longer stun time

But hey

At least he’s fully customizable

[limpid lava]

there's already sonars in the open on map 1 and 3 i believe

like there's 2 outside the neighbor panic room in map 1

[half lichen]

I hate that feature so much

[limpid lava]

and all kids can use it

[half lichen]

Why did they make the sonars public

Just why

[versed whale]

I don’t know

I think they should get rid of those and make this class

[half lichen]

Wait people still want classes removed

In 2020

[versed whale]

Maybe like the Police class who is they hit the neighbor 20 times he gets a gun

[mint birch]

Bruh

[limpid lava]

you've been talking to me this entire time man

[mint birch]

Heck naw

[half lichen]

That’s OP

[limpid lava]

and still havent caught that on?

[mint birch]

The new kid classes should be similar to the ones we have

Just different abilities

[half lichen]

I have 3 class ideas

[versed whale]

Yeah it seems op i should prob change it to like 30 hits

[half lichen]

That arent super OP and also aren’t super weak

Balanced

[versed whale]

Let me hear em

[limpid lava]

what if there were sub classes

[half lichen]

Never!

[limpid lava]

like each class had a sub class with some different abilities

[versed whale]

Oof

[half lichen]

No one will ever know!!!

[versed whale]

One more class idea is the artist

[mint birch]

no

[half lichen]

We already have artist brave

[mint birch]

just no

[half lichen]

And I want to chuck her out the window

[mint birch]

Bruh

[versed whale]

Brave is OP

[half lichen]

Yeah

[mint birch]

Brave is awesome

[limpid lava]

brave needs nerfing

[versed whale]

I do main the leader tho

So like yeah

[limpid lava]

3 hits for counter strike is way too op

[mint birch]

She should have 4 hits

[limpid lava]

and makes you basically invincible if you're smart

[versed whale]

They need to change it to 5

[limpid lava]

5 hits would be better

[mint birch]

Or cool down

[versed whale]

Leader is balanced

Inventor is overall balanced

[half lichen]

5 hits and a cooldown

I’d say that’s fair

[versed whale]

Bagger is overall balanced

[mint birch]

Nope

[versed whale]

Yeah I agree

[mint birch]

Brave should just have a cool down and that’s it

[limpid lava]

inventor is decent but doesn't work that well on map 2 and 3

cuz no gates for his other ability

[mint birch]

Yeah

[limpid lava]

which is why i suggested adding them on all maps

[half lichen]

And the gear spawnrate feels low

On map 2-3

[versed whale]

Yeah I agree

[limpid lava]

i dont get why they made it so you only need 8 gears to craft a gun

that's kinda op

[versed whale]

Yeah it used to be 5 tho

[limpid lava]

ugh don't remind me

[versed whale]

So like it’s better but worse

[limpid lava]

having it at 10 like it was before it would be good

[versed whale]

Yeah

The only thing that makes leader and Bagger OP is that Bagger can survive the Map 2 fall of you fail the jump to the island house after you get past the 3 locked door and leaders Stun is halfed

Other than that they are balanced

[limpid lava]

imo scout needs a buff

she doesn't really do a whole lot right now

[versed whale]

On skins and ability lol

[limpid lava]

other than fire nuts that don't do much damage

[versed whale]

I think scout needs the leaders ability

Stress reliever

[half lichen]

No

[versed whale]

Also nerf detective back to its original state

[limpid lava]

i think detective is fine rn

[coral valley]

I can tell that classes are op if the person using it is a pro and classes are too weak if the user using it is new to the game

That's why some say detective is bad and others say it's op

[versed whale]

Now I’m new to the PC version

But I played in the Xbox version a lot

[feral sorrel]

i honestly find detective useful in level editor maps

[versed whale]

And the detective is arguably one of the best characters

And I agree

[feral sorrel]

and when i mean useful i mean balanced

[versed whale]

Mhm yeah

[feral sorrel]

however map 3 sucks

[versed whale]

I hate Map 3

Map 1 is the best

[feral sorrel]

map 1 is simple and great

[versed whale]

Ikr

[limpid lava]

agreed

[versed whale]

I think Map 2 would be better if you couldn’t skip the key card 1 door

At least on the Xbox version

[limpid lava]

it also kinda sucks for clown

because of the wide open space

[versed whale]

Idk why the clown is played more than normal neighbor

[limpid lava]

i see an equal amount

[versed whale]

I always see clown

What do you think is the most balanced class

[feral sorrel]

bagger

[limpid lava]

brave

nah jk

[versed whale]

Bagger or leader yeah

Ok I was about to say

[limpid lava]

but yeah i would agree, bagger or leader are the most balanced ones

[versed whale]

I love how we say that when they are the only kid classes with 3 abilities

[limpid lava]

true

[versed whale]

Ok why does scout have such terrible skins

[limpid lava]

i feel like inventor's cosmetics are pretty weak too

except for the winter one, that was great

[versed whale]

I love the winter one

Who has the best costumes tho

[limpid lava]

imo, detective

[versed whale]

YUS

[mint birch]

Scout deserves better skins

[versed whale]

Ikr

Her only good skin is the summer one

[mint birch]

I like the Zorro skin tho

[versed whale]

I like the vampire skin

For the detective

[limpid lava]

vampire detective is probably one of the best outfits

[random comet]

yeahj

i just dont like the hair

[versed whale]

@random comet that’s the best part

[thick locust]

Uh

[half lichen]

I’m not watching that

What is it

Yeah uh don’t watch it

[thick locust]

Yeah don't

[hybrid prawn]

Today shop?

[dusk fractal]

Today's shop

[tough nacelle]

Thanks

[dusk fractal]

No prob

[copper escarp]

and thanks for showing us the store

[dusk fractal]

Idea: give the scarry neighbor a vacum like in hn so it can drag kids with like 17 sec countdown that would be useles or give it to the New neighbor clas if clas will be the neighbor

[scarlet flint]

Idea: add new classes and map.

[tough nacelle]

Idea: update

[shell sky]

thats a very specific idea you got here

[slate loom]

Idea: nerf brave

[random comet]

Idea: give the scarry neighbor a vacum like in hn so it can drag kids with like 17 sec countdown that would be useles or give it to the New neighbor clas if clas will be the neighbor
@dusk fractal yeah man that goes to #old-hn1-hnd-feedback-and-bugs

[remote finch]

um

i have a question

i bought secret neighbor like 3 days ago

and i can't play it

...

[arctic hornet]

Is the clock on the loading screen blurred?

[slate loom]

Or purchase button from steam library

[remote finch]

the clock is spinning and it's a sound of a washing machine

and i am not the only one with that problem

[copper escarp]

I haven't a clue on what your issue is sorry

[remote finch]

and that's the screen

the clock is spening and a sound is playing

i tried unninstall it and install it back but it didn't worked

but thanks..

anybody else know can help me?

[oblique hinge]

the clock is spinning and it's a sound of a washing machine
@remote finch that’s what’s meant to happen lmao

that’s the loading screen

[remote finch]

yes but

i wait 10000 hours and nothing happens

😦

[oblique hinge]

maybe get a better PC?

[tough nacelle]

For me it took 2 minutes and 5 seconds to get in to the game (yes I timed it)

[oblique hinge]

not bad

[remote finch]

no my pc is not the problem

i played the beta and it was fine

[oblique hinge]

maybe get SN on a Solid State Drive

the read and write speeds are quicker on SSDs and therefore your games will load faster

[remote finch]

i have a ssd

😊

[oblique hinge]

did you install SN on the SSD?

[remote finch]

omg

i entered

yes

[tough nacelle]

It takes sometimes a long time to load

[remote finch]

yes

thank you

[oblique hinge]

😃👍

no problem!

[oblique hinge]

lmao

so true

animations are garbage

some of them

[rugged thorn]

the neighbor has really bad animations

but this guy seemed to like the idle so much that he started standing the way the sn kids stand

[copper escarp]

they have animation studio and we have this

[rugged thorn]

tbh the run cycle and walk cycle for the kids is actually pretty good

The only things that need improvement are the crouch animations and the neighbor's animations

Also the kids need to have more facial expressions

[oblique hinge]

yeah they do

they feel really bland rn

how they just look to the right and left and then blink their eyes

[open wigeon]

sa

as

[rugged thorn]

[copper escarp]

HELLO

good date to you

[floral mulch]

maybe get a better PC?
@oblique hinge I have that issue too

Takes like 20 seconds or less in that screen

But before Map 3 was released I never had the issue

[copper escarp]

Hello

You the neighbor!

Neighbor!

help

[cunning spire]

No.

[unkempt drift]

hello

[dusk fractal]

It's danger's here

[dusk fractal]

I hate when that hapens

[rugged thorn]

happens a lot more than it should

[copper escarp]

mm ah yes, sn as usual

rage quit

[rugged thorn]

Since they nerfed he rage there has been a lot more rage quitters

[hot flower]

I’m gonna make a vid called redesigned Secret Neighbor Conceot

It’s gonna be tough to make

[rugged thorn]

alright

[robust prism]

Hologryph

What is wrong. with your systems.

Oh wow. there goes ANOTHER map.

Before Pot

after pot

[tough nacelle]

[robust prism]

either Brave shrinks

or that Pot gets bigger

cause there is no reason that pot should be as big as it is

[bitter fable]

my guest is having a stroke👍

[marsh cargo]

#hello-neighbor <

[oblique hinge]

cause there is no reason that pot should be as big as it is
yeah it’s annoying how it pokes through the top of the camera

[olive canopy]

Hey guys, I know this isn't the right chat

But I found a hacker

They were an inventor and spawned multiple guns with unlimited bullets, and were immune.
The players and I shot him multiple times, but he didn't fall to the ground.

Last picture has his username

The chat where I should report him doesn't let me send multiple screenshots at once, and it would be weird if I sent a screenshot every few minutes

So I sent it here

Spread the word if you could

[mossy escarp]

um

#sn-player-reports

cuz yeah it kinda clogs chat

[olive canopy]

did you read what i said

https://discordapp.com/channels/474299944254308373/474299944791048214/742045895230750813

I'll do it next time though, I just had three screenshots

[limpid lava]

you could always combine the screenshots

[olive canopy]

Yeah, guess you're right