Reading through the game files while losing my mind

[buoyant sedge]

I'll note it down for later. 11 PO or more means we increase USP popularity.

[buoyant sedge]

I need to check the effects of each healthcare and education improvement.

[buoyant sedge]

Not allowing Aschraf is +2 PO

not going is just +1 PO

Seems like police authority is -1 PO?

No other effects tbh

I'm looking with "PoliceAuthority" since it seems most relevant

Maybe I can avoid signing RHB then, huh

needs more tests

[buoyant sedge]

Huh.

So yeah:
rural treatment is +2 PO and +1 living standards
new hospitals is +1 PO and +2 living standards
salaries are +1 PO and +1 living stnadards

Education:

I can't even find anything about salaries

Nothing at all

(in terms of living standards)

So it seems that
new schools is +2 PO and +2 Standards of living
improve rural is +1 PO and +1 stndard of living
salaries is just +1 PO

I wonder how REI plays into it

It seems to change both improve rural and new schools into true?

but without the PO/standards of living changes

To be fair, whether I do new schools + improve rural + REI or new schools + salaries + REI, I get the same amount of PO, standards of living are not measured in-game for the most part and the latter gives me more green situations

EPA removed is +3 to direction scale, EPA at 49% is just +1.

Yeah so as I said on the main chat, police authority does nothing except maybe lower PO by 1, suspended protests work only on Taurus' delay, Aschraf and I'm guessing the final unrest check

idk

That seems to have no effect. About prologue though:

Campaigning for alphonso is -1 PO?

[buoyant sedge]

I need to check waht does arresting Ricter on emergency runs does.

And censoring him from the press

[past yarrow]

Make sense

Because Alphonso is the one who let Sordland goes down so much

And most of Sordish people still have good feelings for Colonel

[buoyant sedge]

Tbh, I need to test the concessions to workers

As far as Iknow

if you address the protestors, they react differently based on what you got

if you got hte education, healthcare and housing, it's +1 PO

if worker's pay, it's 0

if a vague promise to donate to charities, you get -1 PO and get booed out

But

why bother going for Alphonso's concessions if you're going to escape with the Helicopter?

Maybe I can optimize that 1 PO better then.

[drifting vortex]

I wonder if we can get large surplus with capitalism. I’m trying to test runs … so far i failed.

[buoyant sedge]

Of course you can, ED is just tighter, since you don't get +1/+2 ED from nationalizing large companies, but 0, or -1, or -2 ED. Pre-surplus check at least.

Catspaw told me once that the maximum pre-surplus check is like 30 ED

of course assuming perfect conditions

and you'll obviously be raising taxes etc

(I'm going off memory, but Katze can correct me if I'm wrong)

[drifting vortex]

It’s 20 ed at turn 9 for large surpris right?

[buoyant sedge]

At the very beginning, yes

Fiscal review is the first event of turn 9

[drifting vortex]

I see… i might try to see what happen by not enacting VAT, if it pushes me over the line.

[buoyant sedge]

Vat is -1 ED

Can you not check your save file

and see the exact ED you have?

Starting there and then asking you about the easiest ED sources you missed seems like an idea.

[fathom tinsel]

I think this has the most amounts of comments of any discussion in Suzerain

[buoyant sedge]

I’m gonna guess Johnist run has more.

I’ll surpass it eventually

[buoyant sedge]

Also, for 3/4 of the chat, it's me monologuing and noting down Suzerain-related stuff, since I'm not creating a dedicated channel in my private server where I note down all the stuff, why would I when I can do it here and ping people when need be.

[drifting vortex]

Unfortunatly I made this run on IOS mobile, but I Will try it on of and report back to you with the save file.
Though I can send my economic chart on turn 9 if that’s of any use

[buoyant sedge]

It would give me a rough estimate, but no matter. I'm trying to learn all the 30 ED Catspaw talked about anyway, it'll be good training to see your run, try to estimate it and then see how far off the truth I was.

But for that I'd need your economic plan

[drifting vortex]

Promises : free market, relaxed immigration, neutrality, fund military

History degree

I play on easy 7GB

Promote free market
Build L-1 6GB
Bailouts 4GB
Chose underhall 2GB
Sign Tourism act 1GB
Veto GREEN
Gasom co-invest OGB
EPA removed
Budget meeting : fund all -12 GB
Veto WRA
-15 GB Lorren RI
Decrease all taxes -20 GB
Privatise education -18 GB
(Trade war Check failed, that’s ok)
-20 GB Gruni New farms
No foreign aid
Keep relaxed immigration
Agnolia good trade deal
-18 GB Wehlen partial OBT
Modernise navy
-20 GB Benfi airport

• Yellow energy crisis -20 GB
  -20 GB CBRA
  -18 GB privatize health
  Chose Gruni (free)
  L1 refund -17 GB
  GASOM 2/3 divest -13 GB
  Privatise Nedam and Minor SSC -8 GB
  Decrees : VAT, FTCC, privatize prison -5 GB
  Bergia centralize -6 GB
  Lespia Alliance -4 GB
  Veto smoke bill
  Build med school
  Arcasian military aid
  Médium surplus -2GB
  WLA -4GB
  Electronic industry -6GB
  Smoking tax override -5GB
  Veto alcochol + luxury
  Overrides (-2 GB)
  Join ATO, energy prices balanced (-1GB)
  Tax efficient economy (0GB)

And here is my eco graph on T9

[buoyant sedge]

I'll answer you tomorrow, it's 1 Am my time and i have to wake up in 8 h at the latest

[buoyant sedge]

Easy? Doesn't easy start with 9 GB then? I'm gonna assume you're playing normal then, so add +2 GB and +2 ED to all the calculations.

You're going for the debt maxing and trade war anyway, why do you avoid some spendings? You're already abusing the -20 threshold, why not do so from the start? So like, sign GREEN, solo invest into Gasom, sign WRA for the unrest synergy...

Roughly speaking though:
If you were to sign GREEN, boost Bergia and Gruni ED enough, and did crop research instead of new farms, you'd have 1 ED more.

Is there a reason you're avoiding ATO Aid? You're not getting a self-sufficient economy anyway if you sell the Sordish Petroleum, there's no reason to avoid taking it.

If you solo invest into Gasom and sell 2/3, you'd get +6 GB instead. A net +1. Or +2, since you're abusing the -20 threshold anyway.

Since you did partial OBT, Lespia alliance is only +1 ED.

You missed out on the -1 GB from Valgish sanctions. Modernised/Expanded navy stops the -1 ED hit, but you still get the -1 GB hit. So you're getting the debt crisis at -6 GB.

Roughly speaking though... Let's say the max is 30 ED, as per Catspaw's words (I'll ask him for more details though). You're losing 1 from not studying economics. You're losing 5 from the trade war. 1 from not properly using the GREEN synergy. I'm gonna assume you're not getting a +1 from Unrest synergy either. You're losing 2 from privatizing. You're losing 1 from VAT. You're losing 1 from not doing the normal Lespia deal. I estimate you should be headed towards a medium surplus, yeah, roughly 16-18 ED. But you're also heading towards a debt crisis.

[drifting vortex]

Thank you very much for the review.

The easy is a mistake, i play on normal.
Well I vetoed green because I was not sure it would be beneficial but you are right I already milles over signing it. I vetoed working rights act to get the second infra costing only 2 GB and not 4 with Taurus. That’s true I could offset this loss with the high surplus.
As for ATO first aid it’s more of a RP thing (Rayne doesn’t went to give more ammo to the Sollists) but if it brings more ED I can accept it.
As for Gasom that’s true but I wanted the co-invest for the Rizia run.
As for the partial OBT and Lespia doesn’t my history? background prevent both the -1 budget and give me the second ED point?
(And I thought navy prevented all the loss, because having player the run all the way to the end, I don’t have any debt crisis)

[buoyant sedge]

Giemme a sec.

[buoyant sedge]

I'm discussing some stuff with Catspaw now

so yeah, give me time to learn some new stuff before I can help you further

I'm surprised you didn't realise the Valgish sanctions though, how did you not realise you have a debt crisis?

[drifting vortex]

Nothing in this run indicate a debt crisis. I mean, I had warningd but no anouncement i have a debt crisis at any point, and I don’t experience the ED drop associated with it. I end the run with recovery and all régions in Green

[buoyant sedge]

For normal, very well. Frankly, debt-maxing and easy mdoe don't really work well together anyway.

GREEN would be optimal indeed. But if you do it, do Crop Research instead of New Farms subsidies.

I see the merit of your WRA idea, but I still think Taurus both times would be preferable.

ATO Aid would give you +1 lategame ED from the military industry synergy, yeah.

I don't understand the idea behidn this run. Is it an optimal Rizia start? Then green energy prices hurt you. Is it not? Then you're better off doing EPA at 49% to avoid the energy crisis entirely. Especially that for a good Rizia run, you want red energy prices, adn you're aiming for green.

You're right with Lespia. With history degree, the deal to sell SP is +2 ED, but you're missing out on the Economy degree. Without history degree, it's 0 ED for -1 GB, the deal sucks then. But you're missing out the +1 ED from economy degree. Still, history is preferable and I made a mistake.

You shoudl ahve gotten a situation temporarily, right after talking with Franc on the phone, when the veto override from smoking tax and sanctions GB hit. Not that you can't recover from that, but roughly speaking, I think you're at -6 GB during the check, but I can't say with absolute certainty I know how it worked.

[drifting vortex]

Ok, so GREEN and crop for one ED and taking a leap of Faith and doing the unrest synergy for another ED might just be enough to take me over the line. I should test that. Thank you

At this pont indeed, I can just accept ATO help and change my campaign promise accordingly.

Well it’s not really an optimal Rizia run. I just need Gasom delà for the war run I plan after . (I know that Green prices won’t help me there and that red prices would be better, but I can’t have my canon Rayne being such an incompetent that he will trigger a red energy crisis). Going 49% (and forfeiting Wehlen deal then) will only net me 2 GB, that’s why I wanted to go to EPA repealed.

I’ll re check but if there were a debt crisis, shouldn’t my eco chart shows a big drop of ED?

[buoyant sedge]

I wouldn't be so sure about large surplus. Roughly speaking, based on the economic chart, you're at 16 ED (since Alphonso's peak is 19 or 20 ED), which means I cannot figure out where else did you lose like 2-3 ED. Even if you do the two optimizations I told you about, GREEN and Unrest synergy, you're at 18 ED.

Frankly, you're selling Sordish Petroleum. The biggest gas company ends up in Anrakan hands, the biggest oil company ends up in Lespian hands, Nedam ends up in private hands as well. You're privatizign healthcare too, so Gloria doesn't support you. You're ostracizing the conservatives anyway, I see no reason to not just become a western puppet at this point.

I suggest EPA at 49% to avoid the energy crisis, since I don't know how much ED damage it does, but surely it does some. I still don't understand the point of co-investing, but you do you, I did not play Rizia to comment much.

You'll be hit with the debt crisis later. Literally turn 9, the phone call with Franc, and then once again very lategame.

[drifting vortex]

Based on a quick internet research, yellow energy crisis seems to be -2 ED. So if I’m a 16 ED i go for 49% co-invest, so I avoid the crisis (+2ED), I can forego Wehlen trade and abandon history school for economic school (+1ED) and get GREEN and crop for 1ED and I should be good. The 2 GB I miss from GASOM would be compensated by the 4GB from the large surplus.

Thank you very much for the help ! (After having closed that book, i’ll try another weird challenge : doing a good economy while having tightened immigration)

[buoyant sedge]

Eh immigration isn't really much of a problem imo. Like, it's a net -2 ED to all regions (as relaxed is +1, tightened is -1), so you have to change some of your decisions to boost neglected regions, and lowered regional ED can impact your general ED, but anyway, feel free to try.

[fathom tinsel]

Theres a check for USP GNA vote

Nhom

[buoyant sedge]

Are you saying letting the refugees go/escorting them back has an impact or campaigning for Alphonso or not has an impact?

I’ve seen the “too many anti-sollist choices”.

Is that it? But even then, which’ are you referring to?

[fathom tinsel]

Refugees

[buoyant sedge]

Hm. So there's no tangible downside to escorting them back, while letting them slip through can actually hurt you. The more you know, thanks.

@fathom tinsel would you be so kind as to comment on the Alphonso concessions btw? As in, if we're not going to address protestors, but instead fly away with Alphonso, do they have any tangible benefit?

[fathom tinsel]

Capitalist points

[buoyant sedge]

Elaborate?

I'm asking since I support Alphonso in the prologue (as in campaign for him) to get him to do concessions. Which I'm not sure if they even give me anything. But if I didn't campaign for him, I'd save 1 PO but probably be unable to get him to do concessions.

[fathom tinsel]

Oh u mean that way

Its not a concession, just a long dialog event

The Alphonso relation only counts upwards to your gasom, so the whole helicopeter thing is just flavour

And its a capitalist decision to do since u avoid socialist point from talking with workers

[drifting vortex]

Ok, I don’t know why but I tried my modified run and end up with … one ED point less than before. I’m very much confused rn, not gonna lie.

[fathom tinsel]

Such is the fate of Nationalkapitalist

Reaching neither hell or heaven

[buoyant sedge]

I feel like we don't understand each other.

As it stands, I'm just nice enough to Alphonso to have him not demand anything off me. No "promise me to not tighten EPA" nor "donate to my charity", we just solo invest, that's it. Then we learn about protests, I tell him to invest into healthcare, education and housing, he agrees. We then escape by the helicopter.

I'm wondering if there's any mechanical reason for me to try to get him to invest into healthcare, education and housing, since I'm not addressing the protestors and these concessions are not brought up otherwise.

.
Because if there is no mechanical benefit, I could be more rude to Alphonso. Like, not campaign for him in the prologue to avoid the -1 PO.

[drifting vortex]

Yeah, I’m trying to understand how an expected +4 ED ended up in -1. It’s like, a more crushing failure than if i triggered the dépression

[buoyant sedge]

At times I think I should pick up the pace

but there's also so much more little optimizations in terms of PO especially I can do

And ones that I don't want to chekc, since it's often literally 1 PO less or 1 PO more, while I'm at 11+ PO for the increased USP popularity anyway

just... ugh.

The only major thing I wnat to check is if increased police authority and banned protests do anything of onte

or an emergency decree with just WPB banned and detention without trial is optimal

[buoyant sedge]

What the hell?

Personal Wealth:
1 PW - Deyr.
0 PW - Armadine.
2 PW - Tusk Bribe.
0 PW - Serge Donate.
2 PW - Armadine Returns.
0 PW - FC Anrica.
1 PW - Post-Garaci Meeting.
0 PW - Franc sent to HSU.
1 PW - Post-Legality Meeting.
0 PW - Women's League.

Economy:
Economy degree.
7 GB - Start.
6 GB - L-1 Railway.
No ERP.
5 GB - Choose SSC.
4 GB - Tourism Act.
2 GB - Gasom Solo Investment.
1 GB - GREEN.
EPA at 49%.
-11 GB - Budget Meeting - Fund All.
-12 GB - WRA.
-14 GB - Lorren RI.
-15 GB - L-1 Issue.
-10 GB Taxes - Increase All Taxes.
-8 GB - Privatize Education.
TRADE WAR CHECK Happens.
-9 GB - New Crop Research.
Keep Relaxed Immigration.
-10 GB - Agnolia Trade.
-8 GB - Wehlen Alliance.
Modernise the Air Force.
-10 GB - Sarna Agricultural Zone.
-11 GB - CBRA.
-9 GB - Privatize Healthcare.
-10 GB - Choose SSC.
-7 GB - Gasom Shares (1/3 Shares).
-11 GB - Nationalize Both.
-12 GB - Decrees - REI, CBI, FTCC.
-13 GB - Centralize Bergia.
Neo-Sollist Manifesto.
-11 GB - Gasom Divestments.
-9 GB - Valgsland Alliance.
-11 GB - WLA.
Veto Less Smoke Bill.
Healthcare ED.
15 PO.
-10 GB - UC Aid.
21 ED???
-6 GB - Large Surplus.
-7 GB - Lespian Tariffs.
DEBT CRISIS CHECK Happens.
-8 GB - CFFA.
-7 GB - Alcohol Tax.
-5 GB - Luxury Tax.
-4 GB - Tax Efficient Economy.
Die-hard Sollist.
22 ED.

How did I miscalculate by 1?

@fathom tinsel Can you look at this plan and give me some feedback?

I somehow got 1 ED spare, and I'm not sure of the source of it, since I did a very similar run and got 20 ED before. I'm thinking of Catspaw's calculation, let's see...
Start at 30 ED.
-4 from raising both taxes instead of lowering them.
-1 from no ERP.
-1 from no gun rights/lowered retirement age.
-1 from WLA.
I'm still missing 2 ED sources, what did I forget about?

Also, can you estimate how much lategame ED does CBI save me in this situation? Is Relocation in comparison even worth it?

If Hawker is alive and immune, the ACP investigation doesn't even find his corruption. Weird as hell.

Wait

don't fucking tell me

that I got 1 more ED because I did Morna instead of SAZ

[fathom tinsel]

Uh huh

[buoyant sedge]

Ugh, this is a bug, isn't it?

I did the deal, then nationalized HoS, Lucian is loyal so he didn't leak it, no corruption then.

Hawker is just making charges up.

[buoyant sedge]

So the "early green lorren/gruni for more ED" is true then? Fuck me.

Tbh I'd rather return to the idea of SAZ, CBI and veto smoking tax than replan the entire run, as now I don't have increased production.

I'm just mad the Morna thingy is the culprit

I did it just as a test, didn't expect it to be successful.

[fathom tinsel]

Nationalized HoS?

Whats your relations with Tusk before

[fathom tinsel]

Nvm, definitely Tusk leak

[buoyant sedge]

Nationalized both companies fully, arrested Oligarchs with the emergency powers. With Tusk, I scammed him out of 2 GB and chose SSC.

Can Tusk leak from prison then?

Be so kind and elaborate on this one. Especially that I did not get that scene when I kept the emergency going or killed Hawker.

[fathom tinsel]

I mean, u can check in the file who leak

[buoyant sedge]

Oh

wait, how exactly

BaseGame.LeakedScandal_MarcelKoronti_MediaDeal"]=true,

["BaseGame.Leaker_ACP"]=true, ["BaseGame.Leaker_MarcelKoronti"]=false, ["BaseGame.Leaker_WalterTusk"]=true, ["BaseGame.Leaker_LucianGalade"]=false, ["BaseGame.Leaker_HeronGaraci"]=false, ["BaseGame.Leaker_KarlGreiser"]=false,

[compact sonnet]

rolewicz has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

[buoyant sedge]

Huh.

ACP tho? How the hell

Tusk from prison too?

Weird, but I guess i'm ditching the education reform to kill Hawker then.

[fathom tinsel]

ACP always trigger if u have form them

They dont matter, just sth the game check for the court witness stand

[buoyant sedge]

Okay then tell me

how did Tusk leak it

and why didn't he leak it when Hawker dies?

[fathom tinsel]

Did u arrest Mikail too?

[buoyant sedge]

Yup.

Nvm

the old run

with Hawker dead

had tusk leaker = true

but no scandal

despite defensive war

weird af

any ideas how it works?

[fathom tinsel]

Not rll nhom

[buoyant sedge]

?

[fathom tinsel]

U prob had Marcel covering it up

Or censored media

[buoyant sedge]

Full nationalization of both tho

no censorship

[fathom tinsel]

Or not enough severity

[buoyant sedge]

REI + Relocate + FTCC

Hm

"BaseGame.LeakedScandals_Severity"]=2, ["BaseGame.Turn05_Inflation"]=true,

2

same as this run

???

Okay could you tell me

how to avoid Tusk leaking?

[fathom tinsel]

Uhh, i dont do emergency runs a lot

[buoyant sedge]

In general tho?

I mean he is in prison

Mikail is too

so idk how does exactly he leak anything

[fathom tinsel]

In general, use ACP to blackmail Tusk is the surefire way

[buoyant sedge]

Other ideas? I really wanted to arrest Lileas for undermining me tbh.

And well, that seems like a status quo, I guess? Tusk has dirt on us, we have dirt on him

not much changes

dumb game

[fathom tinsel]

Well, you can switch to Bergia RI and get same benefits

Missing 1Gb

[fathom tinsel]

I cant check anything for sure until Friday because im doing a job, but uhh

Severity matters because sometimes the game just decide its not worth it to impeach

Like GNA impeach President raise thresold a lot

Like 3-4 depends on ur PO

GNA will just outright refuse to impeach a popular president

I assume u have Old guard = enemy so the thresold is very low

Compare to when u killed Hawker making Old guard = enemy thing worthless

[buoyant sedge]

I see.

I'm in no rush

and I'll check the game files myself

but I'd be glad for any help you can provide.

I thought I'm done minmaxing this Moderate Sollist run, but here I am, random ED, flactuating PO (went from 13 to 15, I'm guesisng some dialogues), still untested effects of different emergency options...

I think Sarna + CBI + veto smoking is a good enough roleplay though. Sarna to support Rayne's home region, CBI is great since I have strengthened decrees only temporarily, veto smoking for pure popularity and ED since it's before debt crisis hits.

[fathom tinsel]

Anyhow, this is also why i keep saying H-3 better than L-1

And Bergia is amazing since in theory u can get green Bergia twice

[buoyant sedge]

I somewhat agree, but I also consider Gus' investments a great roleplay opportunity

FC Anrica match being won

is too good

And also, L-1 synergises with Lorren RI, which I obviously prefer by a large margin over Agnland RI

[fathom tinsel]

#1 Autonomy enjoyer used to call it a double Bergia with side of Bludism

[buoyant sedge]

I will test Relocate instead of CBI and sign Smoke Tax, then minmax PO from dialogues.

But I have no real hopes.

[fathom tinsel]

Like uhh

From -5 to -2ED

Or more

And 3 budget tho CBRA works too

-7 debt check raw: -3GB, -5 sth ED

-7 debt with CBRA or RCI: -2ED

Sth like that from memory

[buoyant sedge]

I do sign CBRA though, is CBI still saving me 3 ED in total?

Like, is it CBRA or CBI, or if you combine both, it's even stronger?

[fathom tinsel]

I cant recall

I remember that CBRA only counts if ur ED is high enough

[buoyant sedge]

Unlucky.

I am at high surplus tho

so maybe it would count and I don't need CBI to have the debt crisis deal minimum dmg

I'll try again with Relocate instead of CBI and hope for the best.

[crude crown]

Tusk can definitely leak from prison. Also if you revoke the emergency and have Hawker alive, he will always try to impeach you

[crude crown]

In one run I apprehend both oligarchs , have no deal with none of them, then Tusk leak my deal with Albin

[buoyant sedge]

I need to look into Tusk leaker thingy

[buoyant sedge]

You know what I'll try

to minmax PO without Koronti deal.

To truly not do anything questionable throughout the game.

And see what the impeachemnt process, which happens anyway since I dropped the emergency, says

If I manage to raise popularity without Koronti, I'd be very glad

I could already juts ignore manifesto and do PO focus for +5 PO

for free since i sign CFB

[fathom tinsel]

This?

[buoyant sedge]

Fuckign hillarious.

Thankfully I'd be going to war so a reader wouldn't stumble upon it

but it is hilalrious

[fathom tinsel]

Oh, almost forgot

Tusk wont leak if he likes u even after imprisoned

Usually this is exclusive to ACP/SSP arrest runs cuz he hates u if u nationalise Bergia Steel

He doesnt hate u too much if u dont nationalise all

[buoyant sedge]

I'm sort of burned out with Suzerain, but I'll check this with Shayrin's tool too.

But anyway, I also have a question. You say he leaked me taking the media deal with Koronti, yes? Is there anything else he could have leaked in my run? I'm thinking of a way to avoid corruption completely.

[fathom tinsel]

Albin

Insider trading

Ricter

[buoyant sedge]

Albin collusion or PW?

I'm guessing it's PW, but just to be sure, since after believing media deal is corruption for years, I then thought it's not (but I guess it's because the ACP is incompetent at finding our corruption), to then learn Tusk can leak it.

[fathom tinsel]

Theres no difference

[buoyant sedge]

Are you fucking serious? Tusk somehow learns of the Albin deal and leaks it if we nationalize BS... to any degree?

Tusk has more impact than I thought.

Like I get the media deal, Oligarch's affairs and all, but Albin? Ricter?

But I guess this is an emergency run. The only corruption I do is media deal... Take Tusk's bribe, but I don't fulfill it, so idk.

[fathom tinsel]

Nono

He leaks if he dislikes u

Big difference

[buoyant sedge]

Doesn't nationalizing BS cause him to dislike us? or, to rephrase, what to do to make him dislike us?

[fathom tinsel]

Its like Lucian or Monica point system

Dialog and stuffs

[buoyant sedge]

Hmmmm.

Any tips then? How to nationalize BS and HOS fully, arrest him with emergency act, then somehow not get him to leak stuff?

[fathom tinsel]

Censor media or sth

Idk, u asking the impossible

[buoyant sedge]

Unlucky. I mean, I'll just avoid Koronti's media deal I suppose, I nationalize HOS before the major scandals I guess.

lemme just double check the Tusk Leaker thingy

BaseGame.Leaker_WalterTusk

now to translate it into English...

The fuck is "Sued Walter"?

COnversation 137 is the nationalization talk

idk what could it be tho, I can't remember him saying "I'll see you both in hell"

Anyway

Koronti leader is obvious
I can't guess what's sued walter is
Walter fled is probably full nationalziation
Detained is also obvious
Trialed? I'm gonna assume it means ACP when he's free.
Extended sentence? I think it's ACP when he's already detained through Emergency.

And we didn't kill him. I can only imagine killing him with SSP.

this is the same, nvm

I'm trying to find what corruption he can leak btw

[fathom tinsel]

U can threaten Tusk/Marcel if u have 1st phase investigate oligarchs and he will bring up lawyers and stuffs

[buoyant sedge]

not sure how else to find this other than checking out Leaker_Walter

I need to look into the Albin bribe

if investigating the opposition with ACP is really it xD

Nvm, I think the game differiates between bribed and promised VP

since oyu need to actually select him here

Frens bribed too

The taurus thingy is cut content, right? I can't remember being able to promise that anyhow.

[fathom tinsel]

I thought its given if u dont follow up on a promise, its not corruption

[buoyant sedge]

There it is. Media deal is corruption that Tusk knows about.

[fathom tinsel]

Should have been clearer

[buoyant sedge]

I've heard weird stuff so far. Some say it needs to be in brackets [Collusion] to be corruption, that's why Media deal isn't one for example.

So I wanted to make sure

since I'm chekcing everything out anyway

I wonder how much PO i'll lose

if I don't do the media deal pre-nationalziation

That's kinda obvious

Holy

Tusk knows about us tipping off Koronti?!

[fathom tinsel]

Nhom

[buoyant sedge]

What does that mean?

[fathom tinsel]

Im more suprised u didnt know

[buoyant sedge]

It sounds like if you took a bite of something

and I never understand what nhom means

[buoyant sedge]

Well to be fair I never warn him, let that traitor rot in jail

[fathom tinsel]

Im eating water cubes

[buoyant sedge]

like if the gangs did just fucking

extortion and all that

but no

organ trafficking and shit

that's too vile

I'll check out Koronti leaker too

Hm.

Nothing surprised me here

Katze

can you estimate how much PO is saved thanks to media bias between taking it and nationalizing HOS/

[fathom tinsel]

Uhh

[buoyant sedge]

You said before that not taking the meeting is -2 PO or something

but I think of all the scandals

and they all happen lategame

after nationalization

[fathom tinsel]

Like assume you are a literal evil incarnate or

[buoyant sedge]

Emergency, but overall pretty benevolent

edu reform and all that shit

ministeries funded

[fathom tinsel]

The benefit of biased media is more soft landing than booster

[buoyant sedge]

I mean, look

currently, I'm at 15 PO for the check where Petr says USP popularity rose by 20%/stagnated/decreased by 20%, but I believe I can minmax it more. I already know I want to veto RHB, so we're down to 13 PO. And I'm thinking, if I can sacrifice media deal and still maintain 11+ PO somehow for the check.

I'm thinking if it's 5 PO, so if I do focus on PO instead of new manifesto, I'll endure, or it's 10 PO so fuck me then.

[fathom tinsel]

Well, 1st, accept deal is +1PO

[buoyant sedge]

And I better meet him and reject him rather than reject him outright.

[fathom tinsel]

Yes

Anyhow, uhh, emergency stuffs, blah blah, prob -8PO

[buoyant sedge]

Remind me, since I don't think you gave me a definitive answer, is there any benefit to getting Alphonso's investment into housing, education and healthcare if we're not addressing protestors?

so I could maybe not campaign for him in the prologue and get +1 PO

or well, avoid losing 1 PO

[fathom tinsel]

Prob PO, never checked it

[buoyant sedge]

Let's see

I doubt that Shayrin's tool can get into such complex matters though

Fuck.

Rejecting the deal is -4 net PO, fuck me

[fathom tinsel]

Just asking him to resign and not cursing at Gasom meeting is enough for normal gasom deal

[buoyant sedge]

another net 4 PO

I could avoid losing 3 PO here though

since I only care about detention

holy shit there's a ton of checks like that

Huh?

Media dela impacting the unrest?

I have to check out
BaseGame.Turn05_Personal_Festival_LesteLeft

[fathom tinsel]

Theres a few events where it raises unrest if you mess up things

Biased media prevents that

From memory, uhh

Runover Gasom workers, Order Leste to leave, sth sth

[buoyant sedge]

I'm soon going to uni,s o I'll try to do a quick playthrough, I'll just see for myself how well I can minmax PO without Koronti

The problem of kill Hawker or not remains tho

I don't want to kill him, BUT not doing so also means I'm getting a call from Petr about a trial with no evidence against me

[buoyant sedge]

Would you be so kind as to check it now? I cannot access the database on macbook, so I can't even do a run.

As to not modify the run too much, I'll default to campaigning for him and hope that gives PO.

[fathom tinsel]

.

Ok its not local thing

[buoyant sedge]

Hm.

[buoyant sedge]

Do you remember if letting Monica do the speech impacts PO in any way?

I'm thinking of not banning creationism outright, just doing the compromise for more PO, and I began thinking about getting the dagger form the Archpriest. But that would mean no Monica speech, and so I wonder.

[fathom tinsel]

Discord rll likes monica huh

Uhh, yes, actually

[buoyant sedge]

Hm.

Do you remember any more details?

I'd assume it's -PO for letting her speak, since signing WLA is also -PO, but I'm trying to think how much exactly.

[fathom tinsel]

Anything that involves monica relations are usually very minor

Try search monica relation points

[buoyant sedge]

On a separate note, I found that Agnolia deal with more expensive steel is a big PO hit. I'm thinking of rewriting the entire plan to go back to Agnolia + Wehlen + ATO Aid instead. But I dunno, I grew to like Hegel.

[past yarrow]

How much PO we lost

[buoyant sedge]

I'll double check later, but idk, 5 or so?

Also I'm now at 2375 messages in a discussion. Johnist, the second longest, is just 2289 messages. Huh.

Wait

who can leak nepotism?

Fuck, I'll have to check that later.

I might just be forced to send Franc to Arcasia or the military then idk

I also need to read up on Frens arrest on Emergency, waht does it even do

I'd assume -PO, but idk?

I swear I'll buy this game again on my alt if Torpor gives us 4 decree slots with strengthened decrees.

This is unreal

Maintained popularity, huh?

22 PO?!

Last time, I had 11 PO and increased popularity by 20%

I can only guess I didn't impress the right groups of voters

I suppose vetoing RHB made the nationalists not like me as much

This is my previous run, with 15 PO

This is the new one with 22 PO

So basically sign RHB

fuck

I'm doing full OBT and banning WPB, I doubt I can get any bludish voters to make up for it

and I dislike signing it as an attack on separation of state and church

I could veto UELA and see if it gives me anything of note

but I'm afraid too low sollist points might become a problem

I need to look into votes

especially liberal voters

I do have lots of spare PO though, somehow. I should be able to not take Koronti's deal

REEEEEEE

So Morna Port is the optimal option tbh.

Morna and... How the hell do I get increased production then? Fund mic by myself? And maintain debt?

but if im doing morna

relocation is meh

Let's assume that PO is not an issue, and I will sign RHB to get nationalist voters and increase USP popularity this way.

So now the economy remains

I could go for Agnolia + Wehlen + ATO Aid.

Let me think, compared to east-leaning stuff

Agnolia (-1 GB) + Wehlen (2 GB) + Valgsland (2 GB) + 2nd CSP Aid (1 GB and agriculutral industry). 4 GB and agricultural industry, meh if I'm not doing Sarna, but i really want to do it still.

versus Agnolia (0 GB) + Wehlen (2 GB) + ATO Aid (2 GB) + military industry, so I can get both production and infrastructure.

4 GB and mil industry.

early region recovery...?

lemme think

I just need 1 GB more from another source than veto smoking tax

nor veto WLA

What if

WHAT IF

I TAKE FIRST CONTANAN AID?!

+3 GB for the price of self-sufficient economy.

not that I have much to spend it on tho

2 GB would be spent on an industry probably

1 GB to do relocate and veto smoking?

or repeal EPA?

I'm not selling SP so id

idk

I do wonder, what if I veto CBRA? I'm at -5 GB, -6 GB with tariffs.

Man I wish they'd just get rid of the trade war as a whole

to give me more flexibility

my runs, in terms of economy, are so damn same-y.

Or maybe I do relocate, but then veto CFFA? I'm getitng the refund from WLA anyway, I don't need both.

Keep Bergia Special Zone...?

I'm tired.

[buoyant sedge]

Let me think of a way to recover Agnland or Gruni earlier...?

Tbh Morna Port instead wouldn't be that bad

I could become a Holsordian Rayne and all that

and do REI + Relocate just to support welfare

or even be a poor Rayne and still support welfare without Sarna

But my Sarna is fully stacked, or would be if I build it

I also considered H-3

but even ignoring Gus' investments

Agnland ED is too suboptimal. 1 GB less from gasom shares AND I'm trading Lorren ED to Agnland ED.

and even Gruni ED

since I'd have Gruni plan + Lorren RI + Morna + Valgsland trade

So instead of 6 ED or 2 GB of wiggle room, do exactly what I say kind of guide.

Let me think...

Personal Wealth:
1 PW - Deyr.
0 PW - Armadine.
2 PW - Tusk Bribe.
0 PW - Serge Donate.
2 PW - Armadine Returns.
0 PW - FC Anrica.
1 PW - Post-Garaci Meeting.
0 PW - Franc sent to HSU.
1 PW - Post-Legality Meeting.
0 PW - Women's League.

Economy:
Economy degree.
7 GB - Start.
6 GB - L-1 Railway.
No ERP.
5 GB - Choose SSC.
4 GB - Tourism Act.
2 GB - Gasom Solo Investment.
1 GB - GREEN.
EPA at 49%.
-11 GB - Budget Meeting - Fund All.
-12 GB - WRA.
-14 GB - Lorren RI.
-15 GB - L-1 Issue.
-10 GB Taxes - Increase All Taxes.
-8 GB - Privatize Education.
TRADE WAR CHECK Happens.
-9 GB - New Crop Research.
Keep Relaxed Immigration.
-10 GB - Agnolia Trade.
-8 GB - Wehlen Alliance.
Modernise the Air Force.
-10 GB - Morna Port.
-11 GB - CBRA.
-9 GB - Privatize Healthcare.
-10 GB - Choose SSC.
-7 GB - Gasom Shares (1/3 Shares).
-11 GB - Nationalize Both.
-13 GB - Decrees - REI, Relocate, FTCC.
-14 GB - Centralize Bergia.
Neo-Sollist Manifesto.
-12 GB - Gasom Divestments.
-10 GB - Valgsland Alliance.
-12 GB - WLA.
-11 GB - Less Smoke Bill.
Healthcare ED.
15 PO?
-10 GB - UC Aid.
-12 GB - Military Industry.
20 ED.
-8 GB - Large Surplus.
-9 GB - Lespian Tariffs.
DEBT CRISIS CHECK Happens.
-10 GB - CFFA.
-9 GB - Alcohol Tax.
-7 GB - Luxury Tax.
-6 GB - Tax Efficient Economy.
Die-hard Sollist.
23 ED?

I could even take CSP Aid...? I'd hate to do that, but that's even more wiggle room.

Nah, useless.

Again, I have to check who leaks nepotism.

and I miss my full Sarna synergy

but oh well

[buoyant sedge]

I'm trying to find the SSP + Bergia centralized to get BFF Eliminated, but I can't find it

and some redditor claimed I'm wrong

and now I'm mad

gotta find it

or test it

but I'm almost sure SSP + Centralization is BFF eliminated

anyway

Franc nepotism

[fathom tinsel]

U finding the wrong thing

Check funded Interior

[buoyant sedge]

In a sec Katze

wait seriously? It's just Lucian that can leak it?

Huh.

[buoyant sedge]

How to call that decision? Interior_Increase? Can't find with that

BaseGame.Turn04_SnO_LE_Interior_Increased

???

"BFF damaged"?

[fathom tinsel]

?

[buoyant sedge]

What's BFF damaged?

[fathom tinsel]

Whats your question

Oh

[buoyant sedge]

it's always either persists, eliminated or alarming

[fathom tinsel]

Its if you dont capture the leaders

[buoyant sedge]

Wait

so you need Parital/full OBT on top of that?

or uuh

reconciliation?

[fathom tinsel]

Not reconcile

[buoyant sedge]

With Rumburg I mean

Like you capture/kill 7/10

and need to get the last 3

[fathom tinsel]

Give back whistleblower and dont blame Rumburg for spy scandal

[buoyant sedge]

either through Wehlen or Rumburg

[fathom tinsel]

They still turn over BFF if u revoke Dome consulate

[buoyant sedge]

So

To summarize

We get BFF Damaged through interior funded + centralization / article amendments + centralization + operation / WPB banned + operation. And then we need Wehlen to catch them at the border or Rumburg to extradite them to get BFF destroyed.

wait

but what about centralization then? Guh?

What annoys me is that I have BFF Damaged and BFF Destroyed

two separate flags

Huh

[buoyant sedge]

I need to read up about bff damaged

That’s a new flag I didn’t know about before

So like, the BFF thingy has two phases, first to get bff damaged then Wehlen/Rumburg to get BFF destroyed

[buoyant sedge]

To elaborate on the BFF damage

Guh?

Am I reading this shit right?

[buoyant sedge]

Katze, is my understanding here correct?

Because if so, maybe, just maybe, returinng the whistleblower + not embargoing rumburg + not mentioning Illiana by name might just be enough to destroy the BFF???

since it does both BFF_Damaged and BFF_Destroyed

[buoyant sedge]

As seen here?

But then what about articles?

Let's see BaseGame.Policy_Order_CounterTerrorismOperation

Hmmm

Let me try to translate

Nvm Im too dumb

Did they fucking

make Bron more competent

while I wasn't looking?

I can only see Ishval as botched operation

and I'm damn sure Bron was also obstructing it

I'll check out votes too

like why am I not gettign a single liberal vote that run?

Market economy + good eco

Capitalist Rayne archetype + good eco

Liberal manifesto/join PFJP/newparty + relaxed immigration + good eco

reformist path + success

Focus on campaigning early + the lategame PW for PO thingy

Good eco

Good eco + try Soll/expanded human rights/excellent women's rights/freedom of press

Marcel fund reelection/Oligarchally/media bias/media censored

I should be getting 3 votes based off that tho, I'm getting non

3/8, so like round it up to 1/4 votes

and no "next to no support"

although

it is all lategame stuff

not the check where Petr comments on it all

Yeah I basically don't do shit for liberals

Bluds maybe?

5 BO and 20 Malenyevist

10 BO

Article amendments with PFJP given credit

Semi-autonomy OR article amendments for 2 votes

17 BO or reconciliation for 2 votes

That's just 7 votes tho. Weird.

But again, BO and Malenyevist are not happening

I can only realistically get 2 for reconciliation

Conservatives/

focus campaigning + ...oh I misread the last one. It's either you give the mayors extra funds, or fund the 2/4/6 PW campaign.

Sign RHB, UELA and did NOT sign the BFF Deal, didn't try Soll nor enacted de sollinisation

military parade + traditional education + didn't defund mil nor interior + didn't try soll nor enacted de-soll

large advert (6 PW I guess?) + focus campaigning + didn't try Soll

Fund law enforcement while promising to do so. And of course, didn't try Soll nor didn't do de-sollinisation.

Good eco + traditional education + no 3% threshold + no gender equality in education decree (?) + no Bludish reconciliation + didn't try Soll

Fund/maintain/privatize edu while promising to do so? Wtf? Look:

[compact sonnet]

rolewicz has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

[buoyant sedge]

You can suck my greasy balls.

The same as usual but with military funding

I think I'll try promising military funding and doing so

wonder if it'll change to 100% conservative support?

Probably ont

although I don't miss many points

traditional education and women's rights I guess?

Honestly now that I know even more

I'm thinking of returning to the Sollist-Malenyevist and minmaxing that one better.

idk

Personal Wealth:
1 PW - Deyr.
0 PW - Armadine.
2 PW - Tusk Bribe.
0 PW - Serge Donate.
2 PW - Armadine Returns.
2 PW - FC Anrica.
1 PW - Post-Garaci Meeting.
2 PW - Post-Legality Check.
Franc sent to HSU.
0 PW - Women's League.

Economy:
History degree.
7 GB - Start.
No ERP.
6 GB - L-1 Railway.
5 GB - Tourism Act.
4 GB - Choose SSC.
3 GB - Gasom Co-Investment.
2 GB - GREEN.
EPA at 49%.
-10 GB - Budget Meeting - Fund All.
-11 GB - WRA.
-13 GB - Lorren RI.
Late L-1 Railway.
-8 GB Taxes - Increase All Taxes.
TRADE WAR CHECK Passed.
-9 GB - New Crop Research.
-7 GB - ATO Aid.
Keep Relaxed Immigration.
-8 GB - Agnolia Trade.
-6 GB - Wehlen Alliance.
Modernise the Navy.
-8 GB - Sarna Agricultural Zone.
-9 GB - CBRA.
-10 GB - Choose SSC.
-7 GB - Gasom Shares (2/3 shares).
-11 GB - Nationalize Both.
-12 GB - Decrees - REI, Bank, FTCC.
Socialist Manifesto.
-13 GB - Bergia Centralization.
24 Malenyevist points.
-12 GB - Valgsland Island.
-10 GB - Valgsland Alliance.
-12 GB - WLA.
-11 GB - Less Smoke Bill.
Healthcare PO.
10 PO.
Arcasian MIC.
-10 GB - Contanan Agricultural Aid.
14 ED.
-8 GB - Medium Surplus.
-9 GB - Lespian Tariffs.
DEBT CRISIS CHECK Happens.
-10 GB - CFFA.
-9 GB - Alcohol Tax.
-7 GB - Luxury Tax.
-9 GB - Fund RY.
-8 GB - Tax Efficient Economy.
-6 GB - Print Money.
21 ED.

Late L-1 sucks. Solo investment into Gasom would have been cooler. But I don't exactly have much wiggle room.

I could...

skip ATO Aid and then ignore Malenyevist points to go for a neutral trade deal/alliance with Hegel...?

But then i'm basically doing the run I'm doing now

I mean I can already see 3 more ED I coudl get, but I'm still 3 ED off large surplus, so why bother

[buoyant sedge]

@fathom tinsel

[buoyant sedge]

-2 PO for the expensive steel, -1 Po for no deal at all

if I read it right

And the cheap steel deal is +1 PO. So a net 3 PO between cheaper steel vs expensive steel. Not 5 like I thought, whoops.

I think I need a break from this run

off I go to do Sollist-Reformist idk

[rose flint]

Prolly since Rumburg helps your Interior catch some BFF leaders or smth

[buoyant sedge]

Moderate constitution, just becaues i'm kinda conservative, then include article 6&7 because BFF

[buoyant sedge]

That's not exactly my dilemma. From what I found, there are two phases to the BFF operation. BFF_Damaged for 7/10 leaders caught or killed. And then BFF_Destroyed for catching the remaining 3. There's a few ways to do BFF_Damaged and a few to get BFF_Destroyed, but the Rumburg thingy is the only one that technically gives both BFF_Damaged AND BFF_Destroyed. Which makes me wonder if that would really be enough to crush the BFF.

Of course, I need to roleplay returning the whistleblower and not mentioning Illiana by name somehow, but still

I could roleplay not investigating Livia I guess?

Roleplay kicking Lucian out/

It's still just... idk

My approach is simple

they want war

we'll do whatever we can to weaken them

accept the whistleblower and find the spy to ruin their reputation and get them sanctioned and shit

so I'd be going to war

but without weakening them

My only idea for now is to do full OBT, roleplay that Rumburg can be reasoned with, but they can't since we did full OBT, then get declared on.

I could MAYBE

do this sordish authoritarian democrat, democratic constitution with the NFP

AND crush the BFF

if I juts suck up to Rumburg a tiny bit

Man I so fucking much don't want to do a run just to test if returinng the whistleblower + ont mentioning illiana is enough

Nah

Im just burned out

fuck this

I'll do a Sollist Rayne - Dictator?

maybe?

i'm technically working on 4 guides at once

but sticking with one for too long is exhausting

Like stuff just adds up that makes me not want to play

I love emergency. Let's me crush the BFF and Oligarchy. But then, ACP formation on emergency runs is buggy as hell.

and again, I'm thinking, minmax to 20 ED large surplus or go for more roleplayish stuff at 14 ED?

And welfare privatization, people will complain about that, especially that Soll does too.

But not privatizing welfare means I'm a malenyevist/centrist-malenyevist/national-malenyevist and people complain I'm not a Sollist according to the compass.

Let's just focus on the Sollist Emergency

can I cut out welfare privatization? Nah, 4 GB is too precious, and I'm not defundign edu

Personal Wealth:
1 PW - Deyr.
0 PW - Armadine.
2 PW - Tusk Bribe.
0 PW - Serge Donate.
2 PW - Armadine Returns.
0 PW - FC Anrica.
1 PW - Post-Garaci Meeting.
0 PW - Franc sent to HSU.
1 PW - Post-Legality Meeting.
0 PW - Women's League.

Economy:
Economy degree.
7 GB - Start.
6 GB - L-1 Railway.
No ERP.
5 GB - Choose SSC.
4 GB - Tourism Act.
2 GB - Gasom Solo Investment.
1 GB - GREEN.
EPA at 49%.
-11 GB - Budget Meeting - Fund All.
-12 GB - WRA.
-14 GB - Lorren RI.
-15 GB - L-1 Issue.
-10 GB Taxes - Increase All Taxes.
-8 GB - Privatize Education.
TRADE WAR CHECK Happens.
-9 GB - New Crop Research.
Keep Relaxed Immigration.
-10 GB - Agnolia Trade.
-8 GB - Wehlen Alliance.
Modernise the Air Force.
-10 GB - Morna Port.
-11 GB - CBRA.
-9 GB - Privatize Healthcare.
-10 GB - Choose SSC.
-7 GB - Gasom Shares (1/3 Shares).
-11 GB - Nationalize Both.
-13 GB - Decrees - REI, Relocate, FTCC.
-14 GB - Centralize Bergia.
Neo-Sollist Manifesto.
-12 GB - Gasom Divestments.
-10 GB - Valgsland Alliance.
-12 GB - WLA.
-11 GB - Less Smoke Bill.
Healthcare ED.
15 PO?
-13 GB - Military Industry.
20 ED.
-9 GB - Large Surplus.
DEBT CRISIS CHECK Happens.
-10 GB - CFFA.
-9 GB - Alcohol Tax.
-7 GB - Luxury Tax.
-6 GB - Tax Efficient Economy.
Die-hard Sollist.
23 ED?

I could... skip UC Aid and Valgsland alliance...?

I lose 1 Gruni ED tho

I'm still thinking of banning both YS and RY for roleplay

but then no neutral valgsland deal

so might as well do ATO Aid instead

and I'd assume people prefer Valgsland trade

I'll test no valgsland alliance, hm

Guh?

I mean roughly I should have the large surplus, self-sufficient economy, only Wehlen allied

Soll will complain about welfare privatization

but again, I don't see a way out of this, it's either maintain/defund edu, privatize welfare or take foreign aid

I can always stick it to Soll

like sir, you've neglected rural areas for 20 years

if privatizing some is what it takes to get the rural folk appropriate care

then so be it

or maybe I work on minmaxing the old Sollist-Malenyevist some more

I'm proud of it, except I hate malenyevists

I do it for lip service for Yugo and friendlier hegel

I should check out archetypes

if I can get Comrade Hegel, but still be called a Sollist

@fathom tinsel Do you have any konwledge regarding Rayne Archetypes? Does one take priority over another or some shit?

Lemme check if I'm both archetypes at once

I am

weird

Then one must take priority over anothe

but how?

Am I reading this correctly? For Sollist Rayne to be true, you need to have Comrade Rayne to be fales

meanwhile to be a Capitalist Rayne you first need Sollist to be false

Lemme see what i could improve tbh

for the Sollist-Malenyevist

I should probably note down somewhere that in the final save, both ComradeRayne and SollistRayne archetypes are true

so despite the compass and Deivid calling us a Malenyevist, we're also a Sollist, duh

Personal Wealth:
1 PW - Deyr.
0 PW - Armadine.
2 PW - Tusk Bribe.
0 PW - Serge Donate.
2 PW - Armadine Returns.
2 PW - FC Anrica.
1 PW - Post-Garaci Meeting.
2 PW - Post-Legality Check.
Franc sent to HSU.
0 PW - Women's League.

Economy:
History degree.
7 GB - Start.
No ERP.
6 GB - L-1 Railway.
5 GB - Tourism Act.
4 GB - Choose SSC.
3 GB - Gasom Co-Investment.
2 GB - GREEN.
EPA at 49%.
-10 GB - Budget Meeting - Fund All.
-11 GB - WRA.
-13 GB - Lorren RI.
Late L-1 Railway.
-8 GB Taxes - Increase All Taxes.
TRADE WAR CHECK Passed.
-9 GB - New Crop Research.
-7 GB - ATO Aid.
Keep Relaxed Immigration.
-8 GB - Agnolia Trade.
-6 GB - Wehlen Alliance.
Modernise the Navy.
-8 GB - Sarna Agricultural Zone.
-9 GB - CBRA.
-10 GB - Choose SSC.
-7 GB - Gasom Shares (2/3 shares).
-11 GB - Nationalize Both.
-12 GB - Decrees - REI, Bank, FTCC.
Socialist Manifesto.
-13 GB - Bergia Centralization.
24 Malenyevist points.
-12 GB - Valgsland Island.
-10 GB - Valgsland Alliance.
-12 GB - WLA.
-11 GB - Less Smoke Bill.
Healthcare PO.
10 PO.
Arcasian MIC.
-10 GB - Contanan Agricultural Aid.
14 ED.
-8 GB - Medium Surplus.
-9 GB - Lespian Tariffs.
DEBT CRISIS CHECK Happens.
-10 GB - CFFA.
-9 GB - Alcohol Tax.
-7 GB - Luxury Tax.
-9 GB - Fund RY.
-8 GB - Tax Efficient Economy.
-6 GB - Print Money.
21 ED.

How could I improve this plan tho?

Economy instead, 15 ED for surplus.

I did not go for Unrest synergy, but I'm short on Malenyevist points, but maybe I could, let's say 16 ED.

Pre-Trade War I don't see anything. I could skip L-1, but eh, I love Gus' investments. Maybe swap to H-3? Eh, can't see it.

I cannot possibly think of making this plan work with trade war. Let's just say, Stim cheques + L-1 on time + solo investment... I'll do a quick test on the Catsland's thingy... Nah I'm facing the debt crisis check at like -15 GB.

Morna Port instead of SAZ. Maybe that would give me that 1 ED more? Since earlier region recovery? A total of 3 ED. And healthcare ED, for +4 ED in total. I could maybe do Taurus for the first megaproject then and pay for the on-time project, I mean, I'd argue I have spare economic consistency?

To be fair, I don't really even need the large surplus, do I?

would be lovely, but yknow

not necessary

Even if I did get the large surplus, I'd just go from maintained debt to lowered

or like, did Relocate instead of bank and... that's it

Taurus on a Sollist-Malenyevist run is hard to justify tho

Like you could say "yeah but they're the only ones that say they'll fit within the budget"

but that's not a tsrong enough argument for me

-13 on the final save

@fathom tinsel it's me again. What are the thresholds for economic consistency?

a net +/- 2 economic direction I guess

+8 for capitalist...

-10 or less for Planned?

since I'm at -13, Taurus would be net -2, I'm at -11, still consistent planned eco

Large surplus, huh...

I could also start playing on easy

I do feel like that is not the intended way to play tho

it's also not a challenge run per say

but I would love if my guides were doable on hard too

Hmmm.

Or I veto WRA

but feels weird to be a commie-lite

and veto worker's rights

like duh?

[buoyant sedge]

Or maybe I say fuck it, let's tank the trade war anyway?

I mean it'd suck balls

but maybe, for a challenge

nah wait

Trade War + debt crisis

I'm not recovering from that

or like, winning a war with that I mean

Man fuck the trade war

so much flexibility gone

I dunno

I love my runs

but also hate both

commie shit vs welfare privatization

and my last option being neglecting welfare

Who thought balancing planned eco on eastern alignment was a good idea?

[buoyant sedge]

@drifting vortex Cmere cupcake.

???

4 Unrest. Weird.

You did ban both youth groups from what I see though.

As far as my knowledge goes, Unrest only impacts how violent the protests are, not whether they happen as that’s down to negative or positive PO, but I also never had unrest this high

Hmmm.

I need to investigate further.

Based on what you show me, you're meeting the check, wait...

I'll investigate Unrest further

I was supposed to go to sleep

but eh

And you have partial OBT for the BFF_Destroyed

[buoyant sedge]

My basic question is how the hell do you not meet that requirement then

27 PO. So this is not an issue.

(I forgot to show this is right before the Meeting with the Family)

Well I'll come back to this tomorrow

[buoyant sedge]

but as you can see, you're meeting this check. Maybe it's a bug, idk, maybe I'm not seeing something.

Uuuuuugh maybe I just need to do a run with Interior funded for once

Or do you want to do another run? Just test whether interior funded (ssp or not doesn't matter) is enough. Maybe try making a save and test with Bergia centralized and Special Zone kept. And if you'd be so kind, test out if returning the whistleblower + killing Illiana (to not have the spy scandal at all) is enough for Rumburg to give you back the 3 escaping leaders, so don't do OBT at all.

[buoyant sedge]

I believe that thread should also be investigated. Based on Lileas’ comment, you could be heading towards general unrest, but since your BO is low, the BFF uprising takes priority.

[drifting vortex]

That’s weird, I’m pretty sure I only ban red youth in this run.

[drifting vortex]

Wdym Bergia centralized and special zone kept? Basically doing nothing and keeping Bron in charge? Because i just tested that and it ends up with the BFF taking the dam, me sending the SSP or the army and BFF getting blown into pieces (lowest threat) but not the way i wanted it

[drifting vortex]

Yeah but this comment always lead to nothing. I mean, if i centralize Bergia I get neither bludish insurgency nor general unrest.

[drifting vortex]

I confirm that the in-game decision summary says I only banned red youth

[buoyant sedge]

Oh. Wait, what? I thought a single youth group banned gave you yellow human rights, not red.

well whatever, that's not the topic, but I admit my mistake.

[buoyant sedge]

I mean you'd take a save before enacting decrees, once sign the documents from Mr. Graf and sign the centralization, once refuse to sign it. Or sign and then veto them. See the results of both. As far as I see, both times you got the BFF uprising, yes?

[fathom tinsel]

Its a bit more point system

U can have expanded human rights without women rights for example

[buoyant sedge]

I pinged you thrice, mind answerign those earlier questions?

You do not have BFF_Damaged

[drifting vortex]

Yep, BFF uprising both Times

[buoyant sedge]

even thoguh you should imo

Hmmm

[fathom tinsel]

Most even checks them seperately

[buoyant sedge]

Same in turn 9

Katze I'll need your professional opinion on this one as well.

I'll investigate the unrest thingy for now

[fathom tinsel]

-_-

[buoyant sedge]

Oh cmon, this should be simple

[buoyant sedge]

The man formed funded lawenforcement, funded interior and formed SSP even. How did he ont meet that check for BFF_Damaged?

why is it still false?

[fathom tinsel]

Didnt start the operation?

[buoyant sedge]

No.

[fathom tinsel]

Then why are u asking...

[buoyant sedge]

How did he not start the operation tho wtf

@drifting vortex giemme your turn 7 save

[buoyant sedge]

Two more of my questions remain.

[drifting vortex]

Tbf i never had the opportunity to start Said operation. Graf never asked me to

[buoyant sedge]

Ye that's what I want to see for myself

[drifting vortex]

I’m at work. Will send it as soon as I can.

[buoyant sedge]

Mhm.

I'll have to do a run like that myself

but maaaaan I dont wanna

[buoyant sedge]

I hope you do agree that you meet the conditions of interior_increased = true, so you should ahve gotten BFF_Damaged

On a separate note I like how doing Leke's request doens't even lower PO

[drifting vortex]

What’s the requirement to have lileas propose the operation though? The answer surely lies there

[fathom tinsel]

Know where the BFF meeting takes place

Pretty obv

So have Fetih Ejall arrested with emergeny or pass 6&7 at GNA

Or just pass 6&7

[buoyant sedge]

Surely not.

I wouldn't have gotten BFF_Damaged in my own run then.

Since I fund justice and form ACP

Like

Unless they fucking changed it recently

No way.

[drifting vortex]

That was my unserstanding as well. Making it not doable in a dictator run

[fathom tinsel]

Why not

[buoyant sedge]

Okay let's start over. Explain the purpose of this line of code. And if you want to go even further back, explain all the methods you know to get the BFF Eliminated.

[fathom tinsel]

That looks like the 2nd check for BFF operation

[buoyant sedge]

The ones I'm aware of are:

• Articles, centralization, operation, partial OBT/Rumburg thingy.
• Articles, semi-autonomy, call off the operation.
• Ban WPB, operation, OBT/Rumburg thingy.
• What I thought was SSP + Centralization, but apparently is Interior funded only? This one I'm investigating.
• Let them raise up, use SSP/Security Act/Military.

[fathom tinsel]

Mmm

Looks like this specifically checks if u have Bron or Krull as govenor

"conditionsString": "(Variable["BaseGame.Reform_PresiPower_Default_BergiaSpecialZone_AutonomousZone"] == true) == false",

                            "value": "BaseGame.Turn04_SnO_LE_Interior_Increased == true || (BaseGame.Turn04_SnO_LE_Interior_Decreased == false \u0026\u0026 BaseGame.YoungSords_Aids_Security == true)",
                            "type": 0,

[compact sonnet]

catsland. has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

[fathom tinsel]

Ie "If no Autonomy, check this"

Oh nvm, read it backwards

If autonomy, check this

Thats worth a test

[buoyant sedge]

Wouldn't that mean that it applies to all three, Bron, Krull and centralziation?

[fathom tinsel]

No, theres a seperate check above for if u have Krull or Bron

If it fails, u move down to this

"value": "BaseGame.Turn04_SnO_LE_Interior_Increased == true || BaseGame.Decision_Turn04_RegionalInvestment_Bergia == true || (BaseGame.Turn04_SnO_LE_Interior_Decreased == false \u0026\u0026 BaseGame.YoungSords_Aids_Security == true)",

[buoyant sedge]

Can't see it in Shayrin's tool unfortunately. Fuck me. Do you by any chance know which conversation is it?

[fathom tinsel]

"conversationID": 159

[buoyant sedge]

Hmm

So i was kinda right, Bron can botch the operation

if...

if we don't fund interior OR don't do Bergia RI OR maintain interior but get YS to support them

So what people often do, fund interior + keep bron, makes Bron succeed in the anti-BFF operation

Yes?

[fathom tinsel]

This implied maintained Interior+YS support = failure

Nhom

[buoyant sedge]

I misread

it's interior decreased = false

so maintained interrior but with YS support

Guh?

Hmmm?

[unkempt yew]

What're you using to read those files? That's new to me.

[buoyant sedge]

Curious.

Shayrin's tool.

More effective than brute forcing it

but also it's not as good at reading complex stuff

it's for simple checks mostly

[fathom tinsel]

Rll

Im bruteforcing

[buoyant sedge]

I think you've digged the game mechanics for longer than I do, so I still rely on your expertise

I'm a larper

that's trying to grasp this shit

succeeding at times

[fathom tinsel]

Are u calling me inefficient?

[buoyant sedge]

too

[fathom tinsel]

https://tenor.com/view/tkthao219-bubududu-gif-6376944773364454110

[buoyant sedge]

@jistie

Katze is steppign out of the line again

[fathom tinsel]

Why are u trying necromancy

[buoyant sedge]

You do not have the balls to kill someone

I've seen killers, you're not one of them.

[fathom tinsel]

Thats true, i dont have balls

Dont need one either

[buoyant sedge]

Are you actually a woman or are you just baiting for funsies?

I never paid much attention.

To me you're all just an avatar + name + color

never imagined you as an actual human being

[fathom tinsel]

https://tenor.com/view/yoda-8ball-gif-23103661

[buoyant sedge]

as absurd as it sounds

back to the topic

so this is how the operation can fail, with I assume both Bron and Krull.

if you didn't fund interior/did Bergia RI/maintained interior and used YS

I need to answer an old reddit thread

[fathom tinsel]

Sounds like some evil god

Shayrin the Destroyer

Or a city

[buoyant sedge]

To me sounds like an arabic princess

idk

[fathom tinsel]

What

[buoyant sedge]

I'm not sure what's that actually

[fathom tinsel]

Oh

[fathom tinsel]

Same same

[buoyant sedge]

Then how does the operation come into the equation? I know the database is not that effective at complex stuff, but is there literally no other way than ban WPB or articles?

[fathom tinsel]

What vendetta u have against the liberation movement

Oh wait, USP flair

Well, basically u need to arrest Fetih Ejall

Somehow

[buoyant sedge]

So the only way to destroy the BFF on dictator is through the Uprising? Damn.

And I was damn sure of it

[buoyant sedge]

Are you in cahoots with the terrorists?

[fathom tinsel]

I have the right to remain silent

[buoyant sedge]

I mean the moment they start targeting children

is the moment they should lose any support they had

[drifting vortex]

Tbf there is no realistic narrative reasons for us to not be able to arrest Ejall with SSP. We can do it for Frens fucking Ricter, leader of the opposition but Ejall is a step too fer somehow.

[buoyant sedge]

I do wish WPB ban was possible on non-emergency runs.

[drifting vortex]

I mean, telephone tapping should logically warn us of their links with BFF. That should be SSP dependant and not emergency dependant (and it would be helpful in buffing SSP)

[buoyant sedge]

While I agree SSP is weaker than ACP, I would not be satisfied with that. I'm the kind of player that avoids corruption if possible, and forming SSP is corruption (like, duh), I'd still have no way to destroy the BFF on dictator runs. Which is frankly why I usually do Autocrat runs, and I'm kinda sorta working on a Sollist-Reformist run, that does small democratic changes and then includes article amendments to destroy the BFF>

I'm still supposed to minmax the Sollist v2 run, but I'll focus on the Sollist Reformist for a second, since I'm burned out with Sollist v2

179 ayes.

Personal Wealth:
1 PW - Deyr.
0 PW - Armadine.
2 PW - Tusk Bribe.
0 PW - Serge Donate.
2 PW - Armadine Returns.
1 PW - Wineyard.
2 PW - Post-Garaci Meeting.
0 PW - Lobbying.
Franc sent to HSU.
1 PW - Presidential Salary.
0 PW - Women's League.

Economy:
Economy Degree.
7 GB - Start.
6 GB - L-1 Railway.
No ERP.
5 GB - Tourism Act.
4 GB - Choose SSC.
3 GB - Gasom Co-Investment.
2 GB - GREEN.
EPA at 49%.
-10 GB - Budget Meeting - Fund All.
-11 GB - WRA.
-13 GB - Lorren RI.
Late L-1 Railway.
-8 GB Taxes - Increase All Taxes.
TRADE WAR CHECK.
-9 GB - New Crop Research.
No Foreign Aid.
Keep Relaxed Immigration.
-10 GB - Agnolia Trade.
-8 GB - Wehlen Trade.
Expand the Air Force.
-10 GB - Sarna Agricultural Zone.
-11 GB - CBRA.
-12 GB - Choose SSC.
-9 GB - Gasom Shares (1/3 shares).
-11 GB - Nationalize HOS.
-10 GB - Decrees - VAT, REI, FTCC.
Socialist Manifesto.
-11 GB - Bergia Centralization.
24 Malenyevist Points.
-10 GB - Valgsland Island.
-8 GB - Valgsland Alliance.
Veto Less Smoke Bill.
Healthcare ED.
23 PO.
-7 GB - Contanan Agricultural Aid.
16 ED.
-9 GB - WLA.
-7 GB - Medium Surplus.
-7 GB - Lespian Tariffs + Smoking Tax Override.
DEBT CRISIS CHECK Happens.
-8 GB - CFFA.
Veto Alcohol Tax.
Veto Luxury Tax.
-4 GB - Tax Efficient Economy + Veto Overrides.
17 ED.

Wait, that's fucking comrade Hegel, ugh.

16 ED, huh? 17 ED if I ignore VAT. 18 ED if I nationalize BS too. Uh... I cannot remember if I did Unrest synergy? Uh...

The problem is there aren't exactly any choices I'd skip...? To be a Sollist I mean, and Sollist choices usually give Malenyevist points too.

Morna and earlier region recovery would definitely help, hm

if I wanted to weaken decrees though, I'm losing 1 ED

Maybe I just settle for medium surplus and roleplay

[fathom tinsel]

Why late L-1

[buoyant sedge]

Which spending would you cut?

welfare privatization is a no-no for Sollists apparently

no WRA? eeeh.

To be fair I would ont be going for unrest synergy if it's a roleplay run...?

I'm close to Comrade Hegel too.

I'm not sure I'm getting enough Sollist points for Soll to be satisfied tho

let me count

I hate this

7 Sollist points? I'd have 20 by this point, but also like 20 Malenyevist.

I'm getting 12 Sollist points. Ugh.

Well I guess this will be a run Sollist only in name.

I am signing UELA tho

I coudl be more anti-commie?

Join YS, do not attend Circas' funeral and all that

eh

I'm going to play Hotline Miami

I'll just write down a rough plan

I can't ally Wehlen, fuck.

or do I just not go to war

for once in my runs

Nah.

[fathom tinsel]

I mean if late might as well do H-3

[buoyant sedge]

Articles 6&7 amended (for BFF and giga democratic constitution, I even did weakeend decrees) + solo war. Could even go for Valgsland only war, eh.

179 ayes.

Personal Wealth:
2 PW - Holsord.
0 PW - Armadine.
2 PW - Tusk Bribe.
0 PW - Serge Donate.
4 PW - Armadine Returns.
2 PW - FC Anrica.
3 PW - Post-Garaci Meeting.
1 PW - Lobbying.
Franc sent to HSU.
0 PW - Women's League.

Economy:
Economy Degree.
7 GB - Start.
6 GB - L-1 Railway.
No ERP.
5 GB - Tourism Act.
4 GB - Choose SSC.
3 GB - Gasom Co-Investment.
2 GB - GREEN.
EPA at 49%.
-10 GB - Budget Meeting - Fund All.
-11 GB - WRA.
-13 GB - Lorren RI.
Late L-1 Railway.
-8 GB Taxes - Increase All Taxes.
TRADE WAR CHECK.
-9 GB - New Crop Research.
-7 GB - ATO Aid.
Keep Relaxed Immigration.
-8 GB - Agnolia Trade.
-6 GB - Wehlen Trade.
Expand the Air Force.
-8 GB - Morna Port.
-9 GB - CBRA.
-10 GB - Choose SSC.
-7 GB - Gasom Shares (2/3 shares).
-11 GB - Nationalize HOS and BS.
-12 GB - Decrees - FTCC, Free Medicine.
Socialist Manifesto...?
-13 GB - Bergia Centralization.
~23 Malenyevist Points.
-12 GB - Valgsland Island.
-10 GB - Valgsland Alliance.
Veto Less Smoke Bill.
Healthcare ED.
~20 PO.
-9 GB - Contanan Agricultural Aid.
19 ED?
-7 GB - Medium Surplus.
-9 GB - WLA.
-9 GB - Lespian Tariffs + Smoking Tax Override.
DEBT CRISIS CHECK Happens.
-10 GB - CFFA.
Veto Alcohol Tax.
Veto Luxury Tax.
-6 GB - Tax Efficient Economy + Veto Overrides (or sign alcohol since overriden it gives -2 ED).
20+ ED.

[buoyant sedge]

Which I'm considering, since I'm going to an offensive war, so I'm not getting FC Anrica match. And the vineyard is meh. Also, Gus leaves my cabinet since i fully nationalize both, I think.

[buoyant sedge]

Opinion on that plan?

I'm missing 1 ED somewhere

and I'd prefer to weaken decrees.

I'm roughly basing off the Sollist-Malenyevist:

Economy:
History degree.
7 GB - Start.
No ERP.
6 GB - L-1 Railway.
5 GB - Tourism Act.
4 GB - Choose SSC.
3 GB - Gasom Co-Investment.
2 GB - GREEN.
EPA at 49%.
-10 GB - Budget Meeting - Fund All.
-11 GB - WRA.
-13 GB - Lorren RI.
Late L-1 Railway.
-8 GB Taxes - Increase All Taxes.
TRADE WAR CHECK Passed.
-9 GB - New Crop Research.
-7 GB - ATO Aid.
Keep Relaxed Immigration.
-8 GB - Agnolia Trade.
-6 GB - Wehlen Alliance.
Modernise the Navy.
-8 GB - Sarna Agricultural Zone.
-9 GB - CBRA.
-10 GB - Choose SSC.
-7 GB - Gasom Shares (2/3 shares).
-11 GB - Nationalize Both.
-12 GB - Decrees - REI, Bank, FTCC.
Socialist Manifesto.
-13 GB - Bergia Centralization.
24 Malenyevist points.
-12 GB - Valgsland Island.
-10 GB - Valgsland Alliance.
-12 GB - WLA.
-11 GB - Less Smoke Bill.
Healthcare PO.
10 PO.
Arcasian MIC.
-10 GB - Contanan Agricultural Aid.
14 ED.
-8 GB - Medium Surplus.
-9 GB - Lespian Tariffs.
DEBT CRISIS CHECK Happens.
-10 GB - CFFA.
-9 GB - Alcohol Tax.
-7 GB - Luxury Tax.
-9 GB - Fund RY.
-8 GB - Tax Efficient Economy.
-6 GB - Print Money.
21 ED.

+1 since I'd do Economy degree.
+1 since let's assume I do unrest synergy?
+1 since I postpone smoking tax.
+1 since I postpone WLA.
+1 since I do healthcare ED.
+1 since I assume I get more ED from Morna Port.

-1 since I don't do REI.

or do I maintain decrees for REI.

I could also like, do VAT and settle for medium surplus, let me think

179 ayes.

Personal Wealth:
2 PW - Holsord.
0 PW - Armadine.
2 PW - Tusk Bribe.
0 PW - Serge Donate.
4 PW - Armadine Returns.
2 PW - FC Anrica.
3 PW - Post-Garaci Meeting.
1 PW - Lobbying.
Franc sent to HSU.
0 PW - Women's League.

Economy:
Economy Degree.
7 GB - Start.
6 GB - L-1 Railway.
No ERP.
5 GB - Tourism Act.
4 GB - Choose SSC.
3 GB - Gasom Co-Investment.
2 GB - GREEN.
EPA at 49%.
-10 GB - Budget Meeting - Fund All.
-11 GB - WRA.
-13 GB - Lorren RI.
Late L-1 Railway.
-8 GB Taxes - Increase All Taxes.
TRADE WAR CHECK.
-9 GB - New Crop Research.
-7 GB - ATO Aid.
Keep Relaxed Immigration.
-8 GB - Agnolia Trade.
-6 GB - Wehlen Trade.
Expand the Air Force.
-8 GB - Morna Port.
-9 GB - CBRA.
-10 GB - Choose SSC.
-7 GB - Gasom Shares (2/3 shares).
-11 GB - Nationalize HOS and BS.
-10 GB - Decrees - FTCC, REI, VAT.
Socialist Manifesto...?
-11 GB - Bergia Centralization.
~23 Malenyevist Points.
-10 GB - Valgsland Island.
-8 GB - Valgsland Alliance.
Veto Less Smoke Bill.
Healthcare ED.
~20 PO.
-7 GB - Contanan Agricultural Aid.
15 ED?
-5 GB - Medium Surplus.
-7 GB - WLA.
-7 GB - Lespian Tariffs + Smoking Tax Override.
DEBT CRISIS CHECK Happens.
-8 GB - CFFA.
Veto Alcohol Tax.
Veto Luxury Tax.
-4 GB - Tax Efficient Economy + Veto Overrides (or sign alcohol since overriden it gives -2 ED).
20 ED?

if not vat then any free decree, but debt is maintained

idk

I'm not getting a Sollist archetype tho, not at all

well

off I go to play hotline miami

[fathom tinsel]

Replace L-1 with Stimulus

Then refuse to visit Bernard funeral to get back Sollist point

[buoyant sedge]

but but Gus' investments

Or do I embrace the Sollist roleplay

[fathom tinsel]

I thought u said u dont need it

[buoyant sedge]

I don't

[fathom tinsel]

Eat trade war then

Or privatise Edu then do Retirement

[buoyant sedge]

Eat trade war, huh? Honestly... Maybe...? But the debt crisis then, two crisises would mean the war is lost, no?

[fathom tinsel]

Trade war isnt a lategame crisis

[buoyant sedge]

Hm.

-5 ED and -2 GB (since CBRA is refunded so whatever).

lemme think

[fathom tinsel]

Technically +3 means lost

[buoyant sedge]

179 ayes.

Personal Wealth:
2 PW - Holsord.
4 PW - Tusk Bribe.
2 PW - Serge Donate.
3 PW - Wineyard.
4 PW - Post-Ricter Meeting.
2 PW - Lobbying.
Franc sent to HSU.
0 PW - Women's League.

Economy:
Economy Degree.
7 GB - Start.
6 GB - L-1 Railway.
4 GB - Stimulus Cheques.
3 GB - Tourism Act.
2 GB - Choose SSC.
0 GB - Gasom Solo Investment.
-1 GB - GREEN.
EPA at 49%.
-13 GB - Budget Meeting - Fund All.
-14 GB - WRA.
-16 GB - Lorren RI.
-17 L-1 Railway Issue.
-12 GB Taxes - Increase All Taxes.
TRADE WAR CHECK.
-13 GB - New Crop Research.
-16 GB - Trade War.
-14 GB - ATO Aid.
Keep Relaxed Immigration.
-15 GB - Agnolia Trade.
-13 GB - Wehlen Trade.
Expand the Air Force.
-15 GB - Morna Port.
-14 GB - CBRA.
-15 GB - Choose SSC.
-14 GB - CBRA Refund.
-11 GB - Gasom Shares (1/3 shares).
-15 GB - Nationalize HOS and BS.
-14 GB - Decrees - FTCC, REI, VAT.
Socialist Manifesto...?
-15 GB - Bergia Centralization.
~25 Malenyevist Points.
-13 GB - Gasom Divestments.
-12 GB - Valgsland Island.
-10 GB - Valgsland Alliance.
Veto Less Smoke Bill.
Healthcare ED.
~20 PO.
-9 GB - Contanan Agricultural Aid.
15 ED?
-7 GB - Medium Surplus.
-9 GB - WLA.
-9 GB - Lespian Tariffs + Smoking Tax Override.
DEBT CRISIS CHECK Happens.
-10 GB - CFFA.
Veto Alcohol Tax.
Veto Luxury Tax.
-6 GB - Tax Efficient Economy + Veto Overrides (or sign alcohol since overriden it gives -2 ED).
20 ED?

????

Does that work?

The good part of trade war on planned eco

[fathom tinsel]

Oh, thats annoying

You may get 3rd debt crisis

[buoyant sedge]

It's -5 ED, which sucks. And -3 GB. But, in reality, -2 GB, since I'd sign CBRA anyway, and it gets refunded. And -1 GB actually, since I'm solo investing into gasom (what usually is -1 GB for +3 GB, is now -2 GB for +5 ED). So net it's -1 GB only.

[buoyant sedge]

Elaborate...?

I doubt large surplus is feasible here btw

[fathom tinsel]

The debt crisis check at the endgame

[buoyant sedge]

I'll check out your thing

I see Debt Crisis number 1, next to the smoking override and tariffs.

And I see the second at the end game, but I'll have -10 GB by then

no wiat

What I wrote down and when I input it into your thigny doesn't add up, my has less GB in total

[fathom tinsel]

Eh, nvm, should fine

[buoyant sedge]

as in better GB

[fathom tinsel]

If you want to see 3rd debt crisis check

Just look at when the game check for high/medium debt + lategamecrisis + ED

BaseGame.Turn09_EnT_HighDebt

Sth like this

[buoyant sedge]

wait what

I did my maths first, got to the debt crisis at -9 GB, with lespian tariffs and smoke tax override

I redid the math with your thingy, I'm at -11 GB

i didnt sign WLA twice

where did I lose 2 GB?

[fathom tinsel]

Theres a few bug i havent fix, prob

[buoyant sedge]

Economy:
Economy Degree.
7 GB - Start.
6 GB - L-1 Railway.
4 GB - Stimulus Cheques.
3 GB - Tourism Act.
2 GB - Choose SSC.
0 GB - Gasom Solo Investment.
-1 GB - GREEN.
EPA at 49%.
-13 GB - Budget Meeting - Fund All.
-14 GB - WRA.
-16 GB - Lorren RI.
-17 L-1 Railway Issue.
-12 GB Taxes - Increase All Taxes.
TRADE WAR CHECK.
-13 GB - New Crop Research.
-16 GB - Trade War.
-14 GB - ATO Aid.
Keep Relaxed Immigration.
-15 GB - Agnolia Trade.
-13 GB - Wehlen Trade.
Expand the Air Force.
-16 GB - Morna Port with SSC.
-13 GB - Gasom Shares (1/3 shares).
-14 GB - CBRA.
-13 GB - CBRA Refund.
-17 GB - Nationalize HOS and BS.
-16 GB - Decrees - FTCC, REI, VAT.
Socialist Manifesto...?
-17 GB - Bergia Centralization.
-15 GB - Gasom Divestments.
~25 Malenyevist Points.
-14 GB - Valgsland Island.
-12 GB - Valgsland Alliance.
Veto Less Smoke Bill.
Healthcare ED.
~20 PO.
-11 GB - Contanan Agricultural Aid.
Arcasian Military Aid.
15 ED?
-9 GB - Medium Surplus.
-11 GB - WLA.
-11 GB - Lespian Tariffs + Smoking Tax Override.
DEBT CRISIS CHECK Happens.

What did I miss?

I doubt it's a high surplus run

-5 ED from trade war
-1 net 4 ED from taxes.
-1 from VAT.
-1 from not picking a decree that gives ED.

I'm missing out 1 ED exactly for large surplus, if my maths is right.

H-3 Highway time?

without Agnland RI?

or I drop stim cheques

-1 from not enacitng stim cheques
-1 from no Unrest synergy (I assume I'll let RY in and address the protestors?)

17 ED more or less.

Or I spare Bergia Steel?

[fathom tinsel]

Have you checked gasom profits

[buoyant sedge]

I have +3 inbetween Morna Port and CBRA. And I have +2 divesmtnets inbetween decrees and Valgsland.

[fathom tinsel]

No problem here

Nhom

I dont use it much myself, it reminds me how bad i am at excelling

[buoyant sedge]

No WLA?

Oh I see

I made CBRA reduce debt by 1

rather than take

so that's where the 2 GB is lost

hmm

I guess stim cheques are out?

179 ayes.

Personal Wealth:
2 PW - Holsord.
4 PW - Tusk Bribe.
2 PW - Serge Donate.
3 PW - Wineyard.
4 PW - Post-Ricter Meeting.
2 PW - Lobbying.
Franc sent to HSU.
0 PW - Women's League.

Economy:
Economy Degree.
7 GB - Start.
6 GB - L-1 Railway.
No ERP.
5 GB - Tourism Act.
4 GB - Choose SSC.
2 GB - Gasom Solo Investment.
1 GB - GREEN.
EPA at 49%.
-11 GB - Budget Meeting - Fund All.
-12 GB - WRA.
-14 GB - Lorren RI.
-15 L-1 Railway Issue.
-10 GB Taxes - Increase All Taxes.
TRADE WAR CHECK.
-11 GB - New Crop Research.
-14 GB - Trade War.
-12 GB - ATO Aid.
Keep Relaxed Immigration.
-13 GB - Agnolia Trade.
-11 GB - Wehlen Trade.
Expand the Air Force.
-14 GB - Morna Port with SSC.
-11 GB - Gasom Shares (1/3 shares).
-12 GB - CBRA.
-11 GB - CBRA Refund.
-15 GB - Nationalize HOS and BS.
-14 GB - Decrees - FTCC, REI, VAT.
Socialist Manifesto...?
-15 GB - Bergia Centralization.
-13 GB - Gasom Divestments.
~25 Malenyevist Points.
-12 GB - Valgsland Island.
-10 GB - Valgsland Alliance.
Veto Less Smoke Bill.
Healthcare ED.
~20 PO.
-9 GB - Contanan Agricultural Aid.
Arcasian Military Aid.
17 ED?
-7 GB - Medium Surplus.
-9 GB - WLA.
-9 GB - Lespian Tariffs + Smoking Tax Override.
DEBT CRISIS CHECK Happens.
-10 GB - CFFA.
Veto Alcohol Tax.
Veto Luxury Tax.
-6 GB - Tax Efficient Economy + Veto Overrides (or sign alcohol since overriden it gives -2 ED).
20 ED?

That works.

A pretty damn good run too

The suboptimal first megaproject built.
All ministeries funded, most importantly military.
Trade War endured.
Yugoslavia strat.
Solo War.
All welfare signed (except stim cheques, but fuck those bandaid solutions. Unless Business Bailouts?).

Bailouts would put me at 1 GB less but 1 ED more.

pointless.

Or I spare bergia steel.

roleplay nationalizing it later.

[buoyant sedge]

Nah I avoid stim chques

I hate them in principle, a band-aid solution

Seems like a cool run

Maybe I even avoid oslo war

go for valgsland only

basically ntohing changes, same steps

[fathom tinsel]

A band-aid when you are hurt...

[buoyant sedge]

THe problem is they don't synergise with anything

Unrest synergy only

[fathom tinsel]

Stimulus+SME tax cut + FTCC = 1ED

Nhom

[buoyant sedge]

I'm not cutting taxes on this patch

never

I don't remember the last run where I didn't raise both

[buoyant sedge]

Im thinking about using that for an improved Sollist-Malenyevist

but like

The changes would be:
Gasom solo investment instead of co-investment.
L-1 on time rather than late.
Morna Port instead of Sarna Agricultural Zone.
VAT instead of CBI.

Less PW since I don't do Armadine, I should probably start middle class then for FC Anrica.

The rest stays the same basically. Would that be really a worthwhile "improvement"?

I like the challenge of it, a run that recovers from a trade war and a debt crisis and wins a war and funds almost all welfare it can (skipping just stimulus cheques) and gets both improved infrastructure and production...

[buoyant sedge]

Gasom solo investment is a good roleplay, as I maintain 20% in Gasom instead of 5%. But also, I'd roleplay forcefully nationalizing Gasom, no compensation, and since it's canonically smaller and therefore at most 2 GB to run, the benefit of that action is minor.

L-1 on time is good, but I dislike rewarding incompetence. Firing incompetent managers is the preferable outcome to me tbh.

No CBI sucks. I'm on emergency, temporarily with strengthened decrees, not using that to enact something out of the strengthened decrees is pretty meh. VAT is whatever, I'd roleplay enacting it in the 2nd term anyway.

Sarna Agricultural Zone is my favourite megaproject. Morna Port is great, since it's mechanically better (4 ED instead of 5 with Sarna, but +1 Lorren ED and +1 Gruni ED instead of +1 Bergia ED, and earlier regional recovery is more general ED).

Yeah i think there's no need to go for the trade war, only for a challenge, but VAT instead of CBI is a pretty big downgrade. Morna instead of Sarna is a minor downgrade. L-1 is a net neutral, even if I lean towards firing them. And Gasom solo investment is a net positive. Yeah, not worth it.

Oh and I either do poor with Winery (I even find it preferable over FC Anrica) or middle class (not as good of a commie-lite agrarian roleplay).

I can't even do that run to minmax PO better, since I can't browse the files on Mac.

and I have to keep myself busy for 2,5 h more, then drive around for more or less 2,5 h, then go to sleep at 5 AM. Fun.

Sollist-Reformist it is?

Remind me, why am I going for a trade war on that run?

179 ayes.

Personal Wealth:
2 PW - Holsord.
4 PW - Tusk Bribe.
2 PW - Serge Donate.
3 PW - Wineyard.
4 PW - Post-Ricter Meeting.
2 PW - Lobbying.
Franc sent to HSU.
0 PW - Women's League.

Economy:
Economy Degree.
7 GB - Start.
6 GB - L-1 Railway.
No ERP.
5 GB - Tourism Act.
4 GB - Choose SSC.
2 GB - Gasom Solo Investment.
1 GB - GREEN.
EPA at 49%.
-11 GB - Budget Meeting - Fund All.
-12 GB - WRA.
-14 GB - Lorren RI.
-15 GB - L-1 Railway Issue.
-10 GB Taxes - Increase All Taxes.
TRADE WAR CHECK.
-11 GB - New Crop Research.
-14 GB - Trade War.
-12 GB - ATO Aid.
Keep Relaxed Immigration.
-13 GB - Agnolia Trade.
-11 GB - Wehlen Trade.
Expand the Air Force.
-14 GB - Morna Port with SSC.
-11 GB - Gasom Shares (1/3 shares).
-12 GB - CBRA.
-11 GB - CBRA Refund.
-15 GB - Nationalize HOS and BS.
-14 GB - Decrees - FTCC, REI, VAT.
Socialist Manifesto...?
-15 GB - Bergia Centralization.
-13 GB - Gasom Divestments.
~25 Malenyevist Points.
-12 GB - Valgsland Island.
-10 GB - Valgsland Alliance.
Veto Less Smoke Bill.
Healthcare ED.
~20 PO.
-9 GB - Contanan Agricultural Aid.
Arcasian Military Aid.
17 ED?
-7 GB - Medium Surplus.
-9 GB - WLA.
-9 GB - Lespian Tariffs + Smoking Tax Override.
DEBT CRISIS CHECK Happens.
-10 GB - CFFA.
Veto Alcohol Tax.
Veto Luxury Tax.
-6 GB - Tax Efficient Economy + Veto Overrides (or sign alcohol since overriden it gives -2 ED).
20 ED?

Good run overal l suppose

but skip L-1 railway on time + co-invest into Gasom (I'm reverting the changes to 10% btw), then I don't have to do VAT and can instead do some free decree, right?

179 ayes.

Personal Wealth:
1 PW - Deyr.
0 PW - Armadine.
2 PW - Tusk Bribe.
0 PW - Serge Donate.
2 PW - Armadine Returns.
1 PW - Wineyard.
2 PW - Post-Garaci Meeting.
0 PW - Lobbying.
Franc sent to HSU.
1 PW - Presidential Salary.
0 PW - Women's League.

Economy:
Economy Degree.
7 GB - Start.
6 GB - L-1 Railway.
No ERP.
5 GB - Tourism Act.
4 GB - Choose SSC.
3 GB - Gasom Co-Investment.
2 GB - GREEN.
EPA at 49%.
-10 GB - Budget Meeting - Fund All.
-11 GB - WRA.
-13 GB - Lorren RI.
Late L-1 Railway.
-8 GB Taxes - Increase All Taxes.
TRADE WAR CHECK.
-9 GB - New Crop Research.
-7 GB - ATO Aid.
Keep Relaxed Immigration.
-8 GB - Agnolia Trade.
-6 GB - Wehlen Trade.
Expand the Air Force.
-8 GB - Morna Port.
-9 GB - CBRA.
-10 GB - Choose SSC.
-7 GB - Gasom Shares (2/3 shares).
-11 GB - Nationalize HOS and BS.
-12 GB - Decrees - FTCC, Free Medicine.
Socialist Manifesto.
-13 GB - Bergia Centralization.
27 Malenyevist Points.
-12 GB - Valgsland Island.
-10 GB - Valgsland Alliance.
(EPA reversal to 10% somewhere here).
Veto Less Smoke Bill.
Healthcare ED.
20 PO?
-9 GB - Contanan Agricultural Aid.
16 ED?
-11 GB - WLA.
-9 GB - Medium Surplus.
-9 GB - Lespian Tariffs + Smoking Tax Override.
DEBT CRISIS CHECK Happens.
-10 GB - CFFA.
Veto Alcohol Tax.
Veto Luxury Tax.
-6 GB - Tax Efficient Economy + Veto Overrides.
20 ED?

Wineyard is cool. I'm gonna trust Bula and assume I need 2 PW lobbying for articles 6&7, so I can't do FC Anrica. Beyond that, I'm satisfied with Rayne's personal life.

Pre-Trade War is fine.

Yugo is fine.

Solo War is fine / war with Valgsland only. Offensive or defensive, but that means I do a poor Sacker interview on purpose, and if I can weaken Rumburg, why not / Blitzkrieg? But that means I can't transfer Gendarmerie, unfortunately.

[buoyant sedge]

I'll note for later that I should check if I can let the refugees slip through and still reform the constitution. Yknow, too many anti-sollist choices.