Reading through the game files while losing my mind

[young flare]

goodluck

[buoyant sedge]

Assembly Session on the Emergency Act: nothing important.

[buoyant sedge]

The Opening of L-1 Railway:

conditional dialogue if Anton is from Holsord

I gotta go

[bright mesa]

Those checks are usually for determining where you are in the game exactly

[unkempt yew]

I have seen several checks like that PSnW, and SnO, not sure what they do.

[bright mesa]

As someone who develops a CYOA (Choose your own adventure) book, I have a guess.

Say, you want to have a scene like this

"You feel like you can ask her some questions"

1. Question 1
2. Question 2
3. Question 3
4. Move on

Since we need to account for the possibility of user asking all possible questions, we code the game like this

1. Answer whatever question player asked
2. Hide the question player asked.
3. Return to same question

This ensures that you can ask all questions instead of having to choose one

For example

BaseGameIsolated.Turn03_PSnW_Listened_Health_Beds
``
Checks whether you asked that relevant question

[unkempt yew]

oh, understood. I tried making a CYOA game with CS language, but I am terrible at world building.

[bright mesa]

If yes, it hides that choice

[bright mesa]

Choicescript my beloved

[unkempt yew]

the GOAT.

DMs

[unkempt yew]

@bright mesa

[buoyant sedge]

Lots of condititonal dialogue about Taurus and Underhall (weirdly enough no SSC?), changes to city's information tab, nothing else.

Requested Meeting of Iosef Lancea:

I find it annoying how, yet again, instead of modernised armed forces being called modernised, it's instead "IncreaseQuality"

I wonder what BaseGameIsolated.Turn06_SnO_Removed_Valken == true means

I cannot find the +2 GB

Huh

I'll try looking hrough BaseGame.GovernmentBudget

I wonder about this

someone recently told me the threshold for the trade war is -9 GB if your economy is stable

which seemed absurd, but I'm yet to test it

I'm already at the nationalziationd ecision

and still no trace of +2 GB from Wehlen defendborder/jointoperation

There's a Wehlen_Trade something something

let's browse it

nvm it's purely Rizia stuff

No clue

To summarize

I cannot find the +2 GB from Wehlen Trade when browsing the Requested Meeting with Iosef Lancea

And mind you I checked out DefendBorder, JointOperation and even basegame.governmentbudget (Wehlen_Trade is just a Rizia thing). I dunno.

Briefing on the Current Economic Situation (turn VI):

I think you lose 5 PO for not gettign the megaproject on time

Lots and lots of conditional dialogue, notihng else it seems tho

[fickle oxide]

omg

@buoyant sedge seeing my favorite guide maker here working through code is a blessing

I am now also going to start looking through lines of code for my own personal interest, but I wouldn't have done it without you inspiring me

my visual studio is prone to constant freezes that can last 5-10 seconds though, is that normal?

when I'm doing searches and stuff

I press next on search and it takes a solid 5 at least

ok using page down was not a good idea

[buoyant sedge]

I'm flattered, thank you. I assume you mean the Sollist Autocrat? I have to note, I am doing a few major changes compared to it in the new version, I'm not sure if people will like it, as in short I'm dropping the anti-communist rhetoric. Maybe, at some point, I'll do a truly evil run, but I don't have the balls for now.

As for visual studio code, mine doesn't crash much, but it takes a moment for it to find the exact quote I'm looking for.

[fickle oxide]

yeah, I was the one that gave you all other steam awards points for lack of better reward

what version of it are you using?

[buoyant sedge]

Does that help you anyhow?

[fickle oxide]

oh ok

maybe that will help

I had Insider edition

I have no idea what the differences are but I can imagine code is used for coding

[buoyant sedge]

To be honest, I don't study something even remotely close to coding, my work here is really amateurish. Lots of thanks to a few people here, Rookie Pythoneer, Kibener Simp, Jaher, even Vel helps from time to time, to help me comprehend it.

[fickle oxide]

I think you are doing a good job all the same

btw, how are you looking at active files

as you make changes it is updated right

[buoyant sedge]

For me it's:
C:\Users\Admin\AppData\LocalLow\Torpor Games\Suzerain

There you find the save files, and after that it's just opening the manual save before a decision, then the active after the decision and seeing the differences.

[fickle oxide]

oh ok

yeah this just got a lot easier

ok I am already enjoying this

like we could lose the election during prologue

now that would be funny

alright, I will stop texting here so your expedition is not any more sidetracked

just know that I (and possibly other silent readers) appreciate your work and hope that you can keep it up until the end

[buoyant sedge]

It's purely for my own use, don't stress it. I'm writing down my findings for a VERY specific path I will use for the guide, and I'll maybe check this channel and look up like "Funeral of Bernard Circas" to remind myself how much Malenyevist points letting RY in gets you, but I can do that even if this channel gets sidetracked.

[buoyant sedge]

I'm busy irl, but I'm slowly but surely getting through it. I'm in the middle of turn 6 and it took me only... 3 weeks?

[fickle oxide]

ok do you know how to close this variable line because it is literally going to the right infinitely and it's killing me

I think it said read code to its right after a few lines that had like 300kb worth of data

I was curious what it was hiding so I pressed on it and now it is showing literally every single variable that is currently false

I am at the prologue section so that means everything in the game (including the Rizia variables)

it's killing my pc

how can I close it back

[buoyant sedge]

I... did not replicate what you just did here for now, I've got no clue.

BaseGame.Decision_Turn06_Megaproject

295 mentions of it

Huh

Benfi is +1 to Gruni ED, of course
Morna is +1 to Lorren ED, of course
Sarna is +1 to Bergia ED, of course
Conriat is no regioanl ED

obvious, i know, but still

Railway + Edu funded + CBRA

is some sort of a synergy I guesS?

At least for the city situation

I cant find ED

It seems like

to get increased production

you need 5 ED + Sarna and Agri industry / Conriat and automobile OR electronics / Funded mil and MIC

I'm surpriseda bout the 5 ED requirement I guess

I'll check Morna more indepth

only 57 mentions

sorry, got sidetracked

(irl stuff)

idk what the hell this is

Gruni rural dev no funding - I assume it's the Gus' plan
+
Morna port
+
Lorren RI

why would oyu NOT want gruni rural dev?

it is +1 Gruni ED apparently

Unless I read this shit wrong

idk

nothing

but if not megaproject_Morna

then what?

How else would it be called?

Let's try MornaPort and variations

[unkempt yew]

Something to do with line wrapping or something. See if there's an option like that. Line wrapping makes lines to down instead of infinitely to the right.

[buoyant sedge]

I think I'm doing these last few tests very sloppily

[unkempt yew]

If you can copy paste the entire line of code here, I could maybe help.

[unkempt yew]

And btw, thanks for the credit.

[buoyant sedge]

tbh I wanted to play Hunt Showdown but I need to upgrade my processor (which I should be able to do myself, but I have my reasons to reach out to a professional), so I'm kidna just wasting my time on anything until tomorrow.

these last few days

[buoyant sedge]

I will get banned again if I """spam""" too much. But I will return to it in a moment, I'll just ifnish the search for Morna thingy. I'm checking out SeaPort, Morna_Port, MornaPort etc etc

[fickle oxide]

yeah I managed to find a solution

[buoyant sedge]

This is the line

"value": "BaseGame.Decision_Turn04_GruniRuralDev_NoFunding == false \u0026\u0026 BaseGame.Decision_Turn06_Megaproject_Morna == true \u0026\u0026 BaseGame.Policy_Economy_RegionalInvestment_Lorren == true",

[unkempt yew]

It says. Don't do Gus Grunni plan. Do Morna. Invest in Lorren. You have to do all these, for some effects. What are the effects?

[buoyant sedge]

Seems to be this. +1 Gruni ED

Which again, is bizarre to me

[unkempt yew]

lol.

No investment in Grunni, and still +1 ED.

Probably the development of other region expanding outward?

[buoyant sedge]

Or I'm just reading it giga wrong. It may be some of the cross-region synergies spilling over ED that Catsland mentioned a while ago, that Lorren doing well, and as we know Lorren produces lots of farming equipment, improving rural Gruni? Idk, just thinking out loud

[unkempt yew]

Probably.

[buoyant sedge]

Yeh I'm done for now

These last few tests were so half-assed

I'm kinda mad at myself

off I go

[fickle oxide]

thanks for today

[buoyant sedge]

If you read the Sordland Chat, you'll see that it seems the run is going to fail. I simply do not have enough ED, the Trade War was too devastating and the only solution, seemingly, is to just cheese the fact the GB limit is -20, so if we spend anything beyond it it's just free. I'll probably quickly try to drag this run all the way to the end, maybe I'll just leave the deficit to the future administration (instead of takign in a surplus) and roleplay it as extorting Rumburg to pay off our debt, but we'll see.

It went back to stable at least, but idk about that man, by that point I'm usually growign

Heeey I'm back to 12 ED

Far from the 20 necessary, but we'll see

Just for ocntext I am at 25 malenyevist points. I could lose up to 4 and still get the comrade Hegel dialogue (21 is needed).

I could do focus on economy for +1 ED instead of socialist manifesto I guess

Rough estimate again

[buoyant sedge]

I got +1 GB, but that's far from enough to recover

I have to rethink this

That was the initial plan:

7 GB - Start.
6 GB - L-1 Railway.
4 GB - Stimulus Cheques.
3 GB - Tourism Act.
2 GB - Choose SSC.
0 GB - Gasom Solo Investment.
-1 GB - GREEN.
EPA at 49%.
-13 GB - Budget Meeting (Fund All).
-14 GB - WRA.
-16 GB - Lorren RI.
-17 GB - L-1 Construction Issues.
-12 GB Taxes - Increase All Taxes.
TRADE WAR CHECK.
-13 GB - Mechanize Gruni.
-16 GB - Trade War.
-14 GB - ATO Aid.
-15 GB - Agnolia Trade.
-13 GB - Wehlen Alliance.
-15 GB - Morna Port.
-16 GB - CBRA.
-17 GB - Choose SSC.
-16 GB - CBRA Returned.
-13 GB - Gasom Shares (1/3 shares).
-17 GB - Nationalize Both.
-15 GB - Gasom Divestments.
(Somewhere here socialist manifesto)
-13 GB - Decrees - Bank, FTCC, VAT.
-14 GB - Bergia Centralization.
-13 GB - Valgsland Island.
-11 GB - Valgsland Alliance.
-13 GB - WLA.
Arcasian MIC.
-12 GB - Contanan Agricultural Aid.
VETO - Less Smoke Bill.
+PO Healthcare (otherwise protests).
-11 GB - Small Surplus.
-12 GB - Lespian Tariffs.
DEBT CRISIS CHECK unrecoverable.

The few changes I'm introducing is that I can end the game at -9 GB, somehow. Dunno what else

[young flare]

hm

[buoyant sedge]

Let me try avoiding the Trade War then...

7 GB - Start.
6 GB - L-1 Railway.
5 GB - Tourism Act.
4 GB - Choose SSC.
3 GB - Gasom Co-Investment.
EPA at 49%.
-9 GB - Budget Meeting (Fund All).
-10 GB - WRA.
-12 GB - Lorren RI.
-13 GB - L-1 Construction Issues.
-8 GB Taxes - Increase All Taxes.
TRADE WAR CHECK.
-9 GB - Mechanize Gruni.
-7 GB - ATO Aid.
-8 GB - Agnolia Trade.
-6 GB - Wehlen Alliance.
-8 GB - Morna Port.
-9 GB - CBRA.
-10 GB - Choose SSC.
-14 GB - Nationalize Both.
-13 GB - Gasom Divestments.
-11 GB - Decrees - Bank, FTCC, VAT.
-12 GB - Bergia Centralization.
-11 GB - Valgsland Island.
-9 GB - Valgsland Alliance.
-11 GB - WLA.
Arcasian MIC.
-10 GB - Contanan Agricultural Aid.
VETO - Less Smoke Bill.
+PO Healthcare (I'm afraid it might be necessary, I will do +1 ED if possible tho).
-8 GB - Medium Surplus (I pray).
-9 GB - Lespian Tariffs.
DEBT CRISIS CHECK Happens.
-10 GB - CFFA.
VETO - Alcohol Tax.
VETO - Luxury Tax.
-9 GB - Tax Efficient Economy.

[young flare]

looks good

[buoyant sedge]

And for roleplay I'll just say "we extorted Rumburg for 20 GB, fixing the debt crisis and having money to fund ministeries again. The end"

[unkempt yew]

Ok so for the Lespian/Valgish tariffs. I noticed a few things. One if you choose to negotiate only 1 country either Lespia or Valgs, the other don't tariff you. And if you choose to negotiate with both. Then after you Trade with one, the other cancels the visit and tariffs you.

[buoyant sedge]

Unless. I just drop military funding. Then this plan is basically perfect. To be honest, the devs overnerfed military funding imo, not only its -4 GB instead of -3, it’s also -1 ED, like wtf.

[buoyant sedge]

7 GB - Start.
6 GB - L-1 Railway.
4 GB - Stimulus Cheques.
3 GB - Tourism Act.
2 GB - Choose SSC.
0 GB - Gasom Solo Investment.
-1 GB - GREEN.
EPA at 49%.
-9 GB - Budget Meeting.
-10 GB - WRA.
-12 GB - Lorren RI.
-13 GB - L-1 Construction Issues.
-8 GB Taxes - Increase All Taxes.
TRADE WAR CHECK.
-9 GB - Mechanize Gruni.
-7 GB - ATO Aid.
-8 GB - Agnolia Trade.
-6 GB - Wehlen Alliance.
-8 GB - Morna Port.
-9 GB - CBRA.
-10 GB - Choose SSC.
-7 GB - Gasom Shares (1/3 shares).
-11 GB - Nationalize Both.
-9 GB - Gasom Divestments.
-7 GB - Decrees - Bank, FTCC, VAT.
-8 GB - Bergia Centralization.
-7 GB - Valgsland Island.
-5 GB - Valgsland Alliance.
Arcasian MIC.
-4 GB - Contanan Agricultural Aid.
-6 GB - WLA.
-5 GB - Less Smoke Bill.
-1 GB - Large Surplus.
DEBT CRISIS CHECK Happens.
-2 GB - Lespian Tariffs.
-3 GB - CFFA.
-2 GB - Alcohol Tax.
0 GB - Luxury Tax.
1 GB - Tax Efficient Economy.

I could even enact Housing Assistance.

[worldly coral]

oh wow, according to this you can get free court vote just by having law degree + funding nia without targetting the old guards, this needs to be checked

and it makes sense mechanically, because both economy and history have something useful, why wouldn't law offer something useful too besides helping to convince the salad lady

[young flare]

hm

[young flare]

yeah but the truth is, most people get the OG investigation anyway

[worldly coral]

true

[buoyant sedge]

Nice catch. I'm doign an emergency run tho, so I can't really promise I'll test it soon. And I'm burned out with Suzerain, so I'm taking a break I guess.

[buoyant sedge]

I am thinking of swapping Bank for REI though, I feel like central bank independence is there for a reason, and I have 1 GB spare

[buoyant sedge]

Since I started when meeting with Hawker, which is the end of turn 3, I'll do turn 1-3 next. I'll drag this playthrough to the end, but it'll inevitably end in a unrecoverable debt crisis. Of course, not now, my weekend was busy so far, but yeah, just saying for context. Following the plan I showed above.

[flat fox]

"Iosef is your superior and so am I, leave"

[buoyant sedge]

Is that an actual dialogue? Holy. J never did that.

[flat fox]

Indeed. It's especially fitting if you fund a modernized military with no conscription.

[fathom tinsel]

Whats this chat

[fathom tinsel]

Wait i thought this is common knowledge

Harroc discovered it in like 1.0.5

Last time i checked (3.0.8) its null with 6&7

So still useless

Tho maybe that changed

[fathom tinsel]

I missed the days where i had a computer and can do this

[fathom tinsel]

Farming equipment?

Thats pure speculation from Automobile

[flat fox]

We always said that Law is useless because we thought it literally did nothing. I mean, it is very niche, but like, at least it's something.

[fathom tinsel]

Noone funds law without ACP

So i didnt know only fund law is needed for that vote

Neat i guess

Jeez

Half of this chat is just re-discovering half of what the code digging team in 1.0 did

For the old contents anyways

[buoyant sedge]

Yeah fuck you too, my bad for not being on this discord server 5 fucking years ago. Unless you want to point me towards an elaborate writedown of what I'm doing, I don't really see the point of your comment.

[flat fox]

Actually, we should probably create a word doc and pin it somewhere to have everything properly documented.

[buoyant sedge]

We probably should. Well, since I didn't do the first few turns, I'll start from scratch. At some point. Idk, I'm burned out with Suzerain and the community, I can't give you an exact date.

Zargos, maybe you can tell me. I feel like both cats lately act so fucking condescending towards me, it's infuriating. I feel like I'm getting ridiculed for not knowing something they never bothered writing down and sharing. Or maybe I'm overreacting?

As for the game itself, the guide I was making made sense on paper, but I'm short on GB. So my only two ideas now are:

• Embrace the fact it's basically a wholesome socialist autocrat with minor Sollist elements, maintain military funding, get carried by Valgsland and be in a bagilion times more optimal spot (end the game at -2 GB after enacting Housing Assistance).
• Go harder on the Sollist part and veto WLA. Maybe even do further minor adjustments, like maintain traditional education, keep Sollist manifesto (then focus on economy, since with that I should have +2 GB surplus) and a few more probably (be in -9 GB debt at the end of the game, truly minmaxing the economy).

[flat fox]

Veto WLA.

Fuck the women.

[buoyant sedge]

I'd like to ask for your opinion on the matter, as you're the first person that came to my mind.

As you can see, I miscalculated my ED and failed to get a large surplus, meaning the initial plan for the new Autocrat run is worthless. I have two ways of continuing I explained above. I'm wondering if the fans of the first guide are fine with maintained military budget, since the devs nerfed that decision even further, or would you prefer a less wholesome version of the run.

[buoyant sedge]

7 GB - Start.
6 GB - L-1 Railway.
4 GB - Stimulus Cheques.
3 GB - Tourism Act.
2 GB - Choose SSC.
0 GB - Gasom Solo Investment.
-1 GB - GREEN.
EPA at 49%.
-13 GB - Budget Meeting (Fund All).
-14 GB - WRA.
-16 GB - Lorren RI.
-17 GB - L-1 Construction Issues.
-12 GB Taxes - Increase All Taxes.
TRADE WAR CHECK.
-13 GB - Mechanize Gruni.
-16 GB - Trade War.
-14 GB - ATO Aid.
-15 GB - Agnolia Trade.
-13 GB - Wehlen Alliance.
-15 GB - Morna Port.
-16 GB - CBRA.
-17 GB - Choose SSC.
-16 GB - CBRA Returned.
-13 GB - Gasom Shares (1/3 shares).
-17 GB - Nationalize Both.
-15 GB - Gasom Divestments.
(Somewhere here +1 Eco I guess?)
-13 GB - Decrees - Bank, FTCC, VAT.
-14 GB - Bergia Centralization.
-13 GB - Valgsland Island.
-11 GB - Valgsland Alliance.
No WLA.
Arcasian MIC.
-10 GB - Contanan Agricultural Aid.
VETO - Less Smoke Bill.
+PO Healthcare (otherwise protests).
-8 GB - Medium Surplus.
-9 GB - Lespian Tariffs.
DEBT CRISIS CHECK Happens.
-10 GB - CFFA.
VETO Alcohol and Luxury taxes.
-9 GB - Tax Efficiency economy (I'm not sure if it'll work, as one of the cats said I'd get hit by the debt crisis twice?).

That's assuming it will work the way I think it will. I also gotta do something about PO, idk how am I so close to negative PO.

well whatever

off I go to sleep

[fickle oxide]

let me see hol on

[fickle oxide]

don't take it personal, from what I've seen of his messages that's his sense of humor

[fickle oxide]

ok, when presented with the two options above, I say go less wholesome

Sollism was never wholesome to begin with

[fickle oxide]

I'd say;

get rid of stim cheque
get rid of tourism
get rid of green
EPA at 20%
Fund everything except education
get rid of WRA
maybe not increase taxes on SME if passing trade war check
go half obt
sell 2/3 gasom
instead of vat, go for right to bear arms
no valgsland alliance
no agriculture aid
no extra taxes
state of the art med school

I will try to see if the numbers add up here

with the changes I mean

7 Start
4 L-1 (SSC)
2 Gasom
EPA 20% (I would want 10% but we want balanced energy prices)
-7 Ministry funding (all except education)
-9 Lorren RI
-6 Large corporation tax
---------- clear -------------
-7 Gruni mechanize
-5 ATO aid
-6 Agnolia trade
-4 Wehlen trade
-7 Morna Port (SSC)
-8 CBRA ( I never got CBRA return so idk how that happens)
-6 Gasom return
-10 Nationalization (and arrest with SSP - don't kill them tho I remember losing ED from tusk death)
-Bank, FTCC, Right to bear arms (fuck yeah)
-11 Bergia centralize
-9 Valgsland trade (idk what you meant by valgsland island giving +1 gb totaling to +3)
fuck WLA
Arcasian MIC ( I didn't receive contanan aid afterwards so idk what you did - this run is emergency sollism right?)
-8 Small surplus (I don't know how you get medium but mine was only +1)
------------------ tank the debt crisis like a boss -------------
fuck CFFA
only sign one of the tax bills to be at or above -7
profit??

this was my most recent solo war sollist run

it worked out pretty well, got the great sordish recovery and everything

only gruni yellow

formed the ssp and sent it after oligarchs

which might have been useless after jailing them but either way

went valken strategy all the way and improved the air force

there was one where I actually didn't even take any superpower aid but for that I had to let go of L-1

I didn't finish that one tho so idk if I would have won there

I remember you saying that you don't consider a Sollist run proper unless fixing the welfare

but I would go as far as to say going neo-sollism in the sense that adding Realpolitik into the mixture is damn near necessary for Sordland to survive the mid 20th century

that's how I justified myself for taking ATO aid but like I said I don't even need to be doing that to achieve recovery

but if I do then the economy status goes higher than the peak in soll era

otherwise it's halfway there but like I said, still growing and great recovery

[fickle oxide]

so being greedy about fixing the education problems of the country when being under threat by an overwhelming enemy is not a good idea

[fathom tinsel]

I was just making a reference to the recent institutional amnesia study

[buoyant sedge]

Yknow, the few recent interactions I had with both of them had far too much "How could you not know this lol" and it's getting on my nerves.

[buoyant sedge]

Well, two against one. I guess I'll try to think of a less wholesome version, and probably drop foreign aid + some welfare for it. Would you be fine with privatized education and healthcare?

Let me think

7 GB - Start.
6 GB - L-1 Railway.
No Economic Relief Plan.
5 GB - Tourism Act (mainly for Gruni ED).
4 GB - Choose SSC.
3 GB - Gasom Co-Investment.
No GREEN.
EPA at 20%.
-9 GB - Budget Meeting (fund all).
No WRA.
-11 GB - Lorren RI.
-12 GB - L-1 Construction Issues.
-7 GB Taxes - Increase All Taxes.
TRADE WAR CHECK - As you can see I have 1 budget spare. I'm not sure what to do with it, perhaps I'd sign GREEN anyway for the +1 ED? Or WRA for roleplay? Let's continue with that tho.
-8 GB - Mechanize Gruni.
No Foreign Aid.
-9 GB - Agnolia Trade.
-7 GB - Wehlen Trade.
-9 GB - Morna Port.
-10 GB - CBRA.
-11 GB - Choose SSC.
-10 GB - Gasom Shares (2/3 shares).
-14 GB - Nationalize Both.
-12 GB - Decrees - Bank, FTCC, VAT.
-13 GB - Bergia Centralization.
-11 GB - Valgsland Alliance.
-13 GB - MIC.
No WLA.
-12 GB - Less Smoke Bill.
-8 GB - Large Surplus (I fucking pray).
DEBT CRISIS CHECK Happens.
-9 GB - CFFA.
-8 GB - Alcohol Tax.
-6 GB - Luxury Tax.
-5 GB - Tax Efficient Economy.

Maybe?

[buoyant sedge]

My questions stems from the fact I'd have EPA at 20%, so I can afford some inconsistency, and that's +4 GB. If I don't care for people's welfare that much, I might as well squeeze some funds out of it.

Maybe I could go for solo gasom investment + EPA at 49% instead to get more spare budget. Maybe even ally Valgsland to go for Valken's Blitzkrieg?

[buoyant sedge]

I guess my train of thought when asking about welfare privatization is how much this “neo-Sollism” can diverge from standard Sollism. Sticking to only sollist decisions will be a disaster, the question is how far can I modify it.

I’m also just thinking of making two version, neo-sollist that reformed into state capitalism and neo-sollist that reformed into socialism.

[fickle oxide]

that extra +1 should be solo gasom investment

there is no way in hell Soll is going to co-invest with Rizia

the energy status has no impact on hte war which is sad but that will be fixed (eventually)

[buoyant sedge]

According to the game, solo investment is basically a "bailout", something only a capitalist would do.

(Which is why I tend to ignore what Soll thinks and follow my version of Sollism)

[fickle oxide]

it is a bailout for gasom that is not wrong

you are literally funding a private corporation

but the outcome is that you bring jobs and protection for blue collar workers, further improving the region

[buoyant sedge]

Bailout would suggest we get nothing in return except keeping the company afloat

we're acquiring shares

I see it as a step towards nationalization

acquriing a large minority share that is

Let me think

[fickle oxide]

yeah your sollism and my sollism diverges on two different concepts so I don't think either of us can be "wrong" in that sense

my sollism relies a lot on realpolitik

something soll never did because he was too proud

how do you get large surplus btw

or medium/small

[fickle oxide]

well definitely don't privatize healthcare

[buoyant sedge]

I've got a plan, let me think:

7 GB - Start.
6 GB - L-1 Railway.
(No Economic Relief Plan).
5 GB - Tourism Act.
4 GB - Choose SSC.
3 GB - Gasom Co-Investment.
2 GB - GREEN.
EPA at 49%.
-10 GB - Budget Meeting.
-11 GB - WRA.
-13 GB - Lorren RI.
(Late L-1 Railway).
-8 GB Taxes - Increase All Taxes.
TRADE WAR CHECK Passed.
-9 GB - Mechanize Gruni.
-7 GB - ATO Aid.
-8 GB - Agnolia Trade.
-6 GB - Wehlen Alliance/Trade.
-8 GB - Morna Port.
-9 GB - CBRA.
-10 GB - Choose SSC.
-8 GB - Gasom Shares (2/3 shares).
-12 GB - Nationalize Both.
-10 GB - Decrees - Bank, FTCC, VAT.
-11 GB - Bergia Centralization.
-10 GB - Valgsland Island.
-8 GB - Valgsland Alliance.
Arcasian MIC.
-7 GB - Contanan Agricultural Aid.
-9 GB - WLA.
-8 GB - Less Smoke Bill.
-4 GB - Large Surplus (I pray).
-5 GB - Lespian Tariffs.
DEBT CRISIS CHECK Happens?
-6 GB - CFFA.
-5 GB - Alcohol Tax.
-3 GB - Luxury Tax.
-2 GB - Tax Efficient Economy.

Late L-1 + no Stim cheques could result in medium surplus instead.

[flat fox]

This is totally irrelevant to the conversation but I love your guides @buoyant sedge and I’m eager to try this one when it drops anyways continue with your discussion you’re the GOAT of Suzerain guides

[buoyant sedge]

But that'd still be

-7 GB - Contanan Agricultural Aid.
-9 GB - WLA.
-8 GB - Less Smoke Bill.
-6 GB - Medium Surplus (most likely).
-7 GB - Lespian Tariffs.
DEBT CRISIS CHECK Happens.
-8 GB - CFFA.
-7 GB - Alcohol Tax.
-5 GB - Luxury Tax.
-4 GB - Tax Efficient Economy.

[fickle oxide]

ay another fan popped up

how do you calculate your surplus at the end

also your current focus is on bringing your old Sollist guide into 3.1 right?

[buoyant sedge]

Why, thank you. I'm burned out with Suzerain, so it'll take me a while, but my focus is on an improved Autocrat run, with lots of socialism tbh. Wholesome, primarily.

[buoyant sedge]

540 hours of in-game experience and God knows how much just talking here and on reddit, I just look at a plan and estimate. I'm not as good at it as idk, Catspaw or Catsland, but it'll do. I think I remember all the spendings and most of the ED gains.

[fickle oxide]

I have 300+ hours and I have 0 idea what effects surplus

[buoyant sedge]

I'm on a hiatus. Burned out with this game, playing Hunt: Showdown a lot lately. When I'm back, I'll begin writing down what I will read from the game files into a word document. And I'm using that knowledge from the game files primarily to work on the socialist-sollist run.

[buoyant sedge]

Your ED.

10-13 ED is small surplus.
14-19 ED is medium surplus.
20+ ED is large surplus.

I don't remember deficits since I never get those.

[fickle oxide]

oh

that's dope

[buoyant sedge]

This honestly looks good, not overambitious like I tend to be, so I'll continue with that. I will be STARVED for malenyevist points, which I'd need for Yugoslavia strat, but I'll try to make it work:

7 GB - Start.
6 GB - L-1 Railway.
(No Economic Relief Plan).
5 GB - Tourism Act.
4 GB - Choose SSC.
3 GB - Gasom Co-Investment.
2 GB - GREEN.
EPA at 49%.
-10 GB - Budget Meeting.
-11 GB - WRA.
-13 GB - Lorren RI.
(Late L-1 Railway).
-8 GB Taxes - Increase All Taxes.
TRADE WAR CHECK Passed.
-9 GB - Mechanize Gruni.
-7 GB - ATO Aid.
-8 GB - Agnolia Trade.
-6 GB - Wehlen Alliance/Trade.
-8 GB - Morna Port.
-9 GB - CBRA.
-10 GB - Choose SSC.
-8 GB - Gasom Shares (2/3 shares).
-12 GB - Nationalize Both.
-10 GB - Decrees - Bank, FTCC, VAT.
-11 GB - Bergia Centralization.
-10 GB - Valgsland Island.
-8 GB - Valgsland Alliance.
Arcasian MIC.
-7 GB - Contanan Agricultural Aid.
-9 GB - WLA.
-8 GB - Less Smoke Bill.
-6 GB - Medium Surplus.
-7 GB - Lespian Tariffs.
DEBT CRISIS CHECK Happens.
-8 GB - CFFA.
-7 GB - Alcohol Tax.
-5 GB - Luxury Tax.
-4 GB - Tax Efficient Economy.

I should even get reduced debt, from 427 billion to 310 billion.

[fickle oxide]

ah ok you are trying to get malenyevist points, that's why some of the decisions you do are not related to Sollism

[buoyant sedge]

If I were to do a totally Sollist run it'd fucking suck, because many Sollist just want to go back to the "good old days" and that'd ruin the country. So, I'm opting to modify Sollism a little, the dilemma I still have is in which direction. Allow some capitalism and stand with the west against communism, or expand welfare further and get closer to Valgsland instead.

[fickle oxide]

oh

I can easily answer that question

or rather the game already did

just go totalist maximism

it's both

[buoyant sedge]

So far, I'm leaning towards Yugoslavia strategy. Take both ATO and CSP Aid, ally Valgsland because Hegel is a bro.

The only real decision Soll will complain about is NOT banning Red Youth.

But that's the least he can tolerate, right?

[fickle oxide]

yeah but let him complain man

we are saving the bloody country

if he was so good at everything he wouldn't have needed us to fix it

also expecting him to keep track of geopolitics the way we do is too much

[buoyant sedge]

Or, as I keep saying, crush the Oligarchs by seizing their assets and throwing them into prison, BUT allow small fries to flourish in the market. Privatize a little, take ATO Aid as they're an enemy of my enemy and so on. Something like in the Neo-Sollist capitalist dictator game I did.

[fickle oxide]

well like I said, the totalist maximism that is described here is your definition of what you want to do

totalitarian utilitarianism mixed in with corporatism and sprinkled with nationalist autarky

Soll was never going to be the peoples man

he sees the concept of a country more important than the people living in it

the idea of unity comes from being a totalist from his perspective

[buoyant sedge]

I am afraid of the compass calling me a centrist tho. Or a malenyevist. We'll see.

Like my rough estimate is that I'll end up uuuh

[fickle oxide]

I understand your hesitation but at the end of the day it's Deivid's misunderstanding

and in extension the developers trying to make sense of what you are doing

does it make sense to you that rejecting a spy increases Sollist points?

[buoyant sedge]

I assume I'll end up somewhee here

[fickle oxide]

yeah that is a good neo-sollist position no

[buoyant sedge]

If I end up in the lower end, both Deivid and the compass will call me a malenyevist

if in the upper end, idk about Wisci, but the compass will call me a national-malenyevist

which I agree is irrelevant

but people to this day comment on the autocrat guide that the compass called them a national-malenyevist and that it ruined immersion or whatever

[fickle oxide]

oh yeah I get why that would upset you

but I need you to think about the political compass tests we have right now

trying to understand someones political leanings by attaching numbers was never going to be perfect

seeking perfection from an imperfect system is what's keeping you from doing things right now

well once you are done going through the code you should easily be able to make choices that will give you die-hard Sollist

I just don't think the end result is as important as what you have actually managed to do

end result as in what the compass/Deivid says about you

you can always tell Deivid that he is wrong as well lmao

[buoyant sedge]

Honestly that qoute had no right of going as hard as it did. Jeez.

[fickle oxide]

yeah I also tried to make sense of my own version of Sollism for a long time

at some point I decided that people who made this game are also just people who can make mistakes or miss something

so whatever I am fine with is what matters

my compromise was adding a 4th light in the bulb of Sollism with realpolitik

much like what Hegel is cooking

neo-sollism is literally what you want it to be, long as it adheres to the first 3 original ideas and doesn't conflict

republicanism(check), statism(check), nationalism(check)

we keep the constitution unharmed by doing emergency, we run a planned economy so statism, we promote national identity before ethnicity (for the most part xd)

[buoyant sedge]

Before I delve into actual game files, let me do a real quick test run if this is even worth digging into. If this rough plan works, then I will get into details and try to minmax it further.

[buoyant sedge]

The matter I'm the most torn about is education reform. I guess in a large scale of things it's irrelevant, BUT. More optimal (less PO loss basically), more roleplayish option would be to maintain traditional one. More wholesome, harder (due to less PO) would be reforms. I'm not aiming to ally the NFP this run either. Opinions?

Im somewhat leaning towards maintaining the old education system BUT signing WLA. This way both boys and girls experience nationalist education.

Like unironically weren’t nationalists historically kinda pro women’s rights since it meant more of “our” people are liberated and above everyone else?

Nvm that was just British fascists, Italians and Germans were anti women’s rights

Hmmm

Maybe I’ll just do a fully LARP sollist run, with * and send people off to read notes that if you want to be more wholesome do this and that.

If it works the way I think it will, I could maybe ally the NFP on the sollist run, have them kill Hawker, replace him with a loyalist and then arrest both NFP leaders with ACP, saying they outlived their usefulness. I’m just not sure if ACP not finding the fact we ordered Hawkers assassination is an oversight or not.

[buoyant sedge]

The one thing I want to test is, someone once told me that starting the trade talks with both Valgsland and Lespia is better than starting with just either, if you have that option. Dunno why it would work like that, but we'll see.

[buoyant sedge]

Also for the sake of my guide making, arresting the Oligarchs without investigating them still leads to lowered organised crime.

The prologue said I achieved the dream of Soll, the compass says I'm a malenyevist. Dammit.

And that's WITH traditional education, not signing Minority Rights Act and probably a few more things.

Tbh if I'm not gettign called a national-malenyevist I might as well embrace the wholesomeness a little more.

idk

anyway back to Hunt

[past yarrow]

You are too soft

[buoyant sedge]

What else am I supposed to do to raise my score then?

Cause general unrest, despite fixing the welfare situation? I'm not even sure if it's possible given I have turbo negative BO and a BFF uprising takes priority.

Cause a BFF uprising after crushing them through the emergency act? Then why go emergency in the first place?

Form SSP? It's pointless. I arrest the Oligarchs with the emergency anyway, and politically, I'm giga popular with all voter groups + only the PFJP enters the Assembly (assuming I investigated the opposition with ACP and arrested the NFP), I'd bet USP has 80% of seats or more.

Politically:

Bluds can begin to love me if I sign MRA. With reformed edu and shit, I can also get some liberals to like me.

I've got 30+ sollist points btw, so I doubt it's down to that.

Foreign aid is probably an issue, since yknow, Yugo.

[fathom tinsel]

Not always

Wont work if theyre extradited from Arcasia

[fathom tinsel]

Too much reformist points?

[fathom tinsel]

Thats true

U used to get +1 Sollist point for negotiate with both or none

I never done it after the 3.0 update tho

And its sometime annoying when you click the wrong guy and accidentially cause tariffs

[buoyant sedge]

Huh. Good to know.

[buoyant sedge]

My last autosave has 38 sollist points, -5 democratic points. Idk.

[buoyant sedge]

Huh. Do you by any chance know what happens if we go to Lespia, fail the trade talks, then go to Hegel? Logically I'd say going straight to Hegel and having Lespia cancel the trade talks looks better, but idk.

[fathom tinsel]

Only -5?

[fathom tinsel]

The game treats it exactly like negotiate 1 country only if u fail the 1st one

Without getting sanction

[buoyant sedge]

Hm. I mean, I formed ACP, revoked the emergency in the lategame... Of course took foreign aid... I guess I did some democratic choices. Or, anti-sollist ones.

[buoyant sedge]

So, it's +1 sollist points if I either don't trade with either, or try to trade with both and strike a deal with the first I visit? Otherwise, it's a net 0 Sollist points? Am I understanding it correctly?

[fathom tinsel]

"Or try to trade with..."?

Oh u read it that way my mistake

I meant u still get the sollist point whether your 1st trade succeeds or not

But if u fail the 1st trade, the game will thinks u only negotiated one nation and wont trigger sanctions

[past yarrow]

How about sign both NFP bills, campaign finance bill and dont attend Bernard funeral

Sign human dignity bill too

[buoyant sedge]

Wait wait wait. What sanctions? I only know of sanctions for allying, that is -1 GB and -ED (I don't remember how much) during the debt crisis check/the phone talk with Franc. Is there another bunch of sanctions?

[buoyant sedge]

Signed both NFP bills. Signed HDB too. Had to veto campaign finance bill for malenyevist points. Attended Bernad's funeral for manelyevist points.

[flat fox]

Trying to trade with both regional powers will make the other once reject you and it's said that they impose sanctions on you.

[buoyant sedge]

Do they have any mechanical effects?

Like I genuinely usually start trade talks with Valgsland only, so I'd need you to elaborate on the effects of starting the trade talks with both.

[flat fox]

Well you get the red modifier, but, I couldn't tell you anymore, I haven't done so since 1.0.5

[unkempt yew]

I remember, if you negotiate with both. And trade with the 1st one, the other one rejects and both sanctions you. And I think you get a few red modifiers too.

It's been so long since I did that. And likely to have forgotten stuff.

[buoyant sedge]

In this game I started the talks with both, went to Valgsland, allied and I see no new situations. Idk.

[flat fox]

Try not allying.

Just trading

You'll see sanctions anyways.

[fathom tinsel]

Its the same sanctions for allying

It trigger if you try to negotiate with 1 after already trade with the other

Example

Reject Lespia deal 1st
Go to Valgsland and agree trade

no sanctions

Accept Lespia trade 1st (no alliance)
Valgsland refuse to meet and impose sanctions

[buoyant sedge]

Also, that's mostly for the guide, I made this plan work. I marked all the important stuff outside of economy as well. I'm wondering how to minmax it while staying within the boundaries of the roleplay.

7 GB - Start.
6 GB - L-1 Railway.
(No Economic Relief Plan).
5 GB - Tourism Act.
4 GB - Choose SSC.
3 GB - Gasom Co-Investment.
2 GB - GREEN.
EPA at 49%.
-10 GB - Budget Meeting.
-11 GB - WRA.
-13 GB - Lorren RI.
(Late L-1 Railway).
-8 GB Taxes - Increase All Taxes.
TRADE WAR CHECK Passed.
-9 GB - Mechanize Gruni.
-7 GB - ATO Aid.
-8 GB - Agnolia Trade.
-6 GB - Wehlen Alliance/Trade.
-8 GB - Morna Port.
-9 GB - CBRA.
-10 GB - Choose SSC.
-7 GB - Gasom Shares (2/3 shares).
-11 GB - Nationalize Both.
-10 GB - Decrees - REI, FTCC, VAT.
Neo-Sollist manifesto.
-11 GB - Bergia Centralization.
22 malenyevist points.
-10 GB - Valgsland Island.
-8 GB - Valgsland Alliance.
-10 GB - WLA.
Arcasian MIC.
-9 GB - Contanan Agricultural Aid.
-8 GB - Less Smoke Bill.
Healthcare surplus PO.
15 ED.
-6 GB - Medium Surplus.
-7 GB - Lespian Tariffs.
DEBT CRISIS CHECK Happens.
-8 GB - CFFA.
-7 GB - Alcohol Tax.
-5 GB - Luxury Tax.
-4 GB - Tax Efficient Economy.
(reduced debt)

I'm thinking of:

• EPA at 20%. In that case, I should get... 1 GB. I could always exchange REI for Bank. Importantly, I can only remove bank independence during an emergency, if I don't do that now, I can't roleplay it happening in the 2nd term, while I can do that with REI. but the end result is worse, less PO, less GB, maybe even less ED due to no Gasom boom, not really sure if it's worth it. And EPA at 10% is suicide I think.
• Keeping Gasom shares (as a step towards nationalization) - I should get +1 GB divestments, iirc. So the same result as above, not really worth it.
• No Tourism for L-1 on time, but frankly, I don't need it? Like I won't get 20 ED, I just can't see a way to get it (other than idk, EPA repeal and maintain military and whatever else), I have 15 ED for medium surplus, which I think only requires 14 ED, so I can even lose one somewhere.

Uuuuh? No clue.

Tbh the one thing I'd wish to do is Bank independence instead of REI, but then I'd have 1 GB too much to do the bare minimum to lower debt according to Symon, or 3 GB too little to enact Housing Assistance.

5 more ED, where tho?

I guess focus on eco is 1, instead of a neo-sollist manifesto.
Maybe, just maybe, Sarna Agricultural Zone would be better?
Veto less smoke bill? For +1 ED.
Healthcare surplus for ED?

Maybe.

No Tourism.
Solo invest into Gasom.
Sell shares for +3 GB
Divestments for +2 GB.

This way I'd have what, a net 2 GB more. Exchange Healthcare surplus for +1 GB. Bank instead of REI, 1 GB less spent. Badabim badabom 0 GB ending, Housing Assistance enacted.

Wait, no tourism means no green Gruni I think

[flat fox]

You will have Green Gruni at the very end.

No, wait, didn't realize you were doing GREEN. That might be complicating things.

Also Catspaw recently found out that for GREEN to be effective you need to have a certain level of early Gruni development.

Meaning, with just GREEN and Mechanization, chances are it won't give bonus ED.

[buoyant sedge]

+2 is needed
-2 from immigrationa nd GREEN
+1 from Tourism, +1 from Gruni plan, +1 from Agri industry
Green Lorren? I Guess? I'm not sure where the last point comes from.

I mean don't get me wrong, it's a good plan so far. I'm just trying to minmax it a tad bit more. Especially by spending 1 GB somewhere else and doing Bank independence instead of REI.

[buoyant sedge]

Maybe, I replace Tourism with the bigger Gruni plan, to still recover Gruni. And instead of Tourism I do solo invest into Gasom. +3 GB from shares, +2 GB from divestments. Let me think about it...

7 GB - Start.
6 GB - L-1 Railway.
(No Economic Relief Plan).
5 GB - Choose SSC.
3 GB - Gasom Solo Investment.
2 GB - GREEN.
EPA at 49%.
-10 GB - Budget Meeting.
-11 GB - WRA.
-13 GB - Lorren RI.
(Late L-1 Railway).
-8 GB Taxes - Increase All Taxes.
TRADE WAR CHECK Passed.
-9 GB - Mechanize Gruni.
-7 GB - ATO Aid.
-8 GB - Agnolia Trade.
-6 GB - Wehlen Alliance/Trade.
-8 GB - Morna Port.
-9 GB - CBRA.
-10 GB - Choose SSC.
-7 GB - Gasom Shares (1/3 shares).
-11 GB - Nationalize Both.
-9 GB - Gasom Divestments.
-7 GB - Decrees - Bank, FTCC, VAT.
Neo-Sollist manifesto.
-8 GB - Bergia Centralization.
22 malenyevist points?
-7 GB - Valgsland Island.
-5 GB - Valgsland Alliance.
-7 GB - WLA.
Arcasian MIC.
-6 GB - Contanan Agricultural Aid.
-5 GB - Less Smoke Bill.
Healthcare surplus PO.
15 ED?
-3 GB - Medium Surplus.
-4 GB - Lespian Tariffs.
DEBT CRISIS CHECK Happens.
-5 GB - CFFA.
-4 GB - Alcohol Tax.
-2 GB - Luxury Tax.
-1 GB - Tax Efficient Economy.
(reduced debt)

Idk

I'm talking to myself, I expect no comment on this matter btw, but I'd welcome them

[buoyant sedge]

Let me analyze this further:

L-1 Railway is great for roleplay, national pride and yada yada.

No Economic Relief plan is okay with the idea of "we need government to invest into projects, not just hand out money".

SSC because duh.

Gasom co-investment is a bit sad, but I can roleplay it as "we need to do the bare minimum to keep them afloat for now, we'll nationalize them later".

GREEN is good, popular and commie.

EPA at 49% is okay, a good compromise while bringing us money and prosperity.

WRA is commie and popular.

Lorren RI is whatever.

Firing incompetent managers is good roleplaywise.

Increasing taxes is the same logic as no ERP, we need money to invest into government programs.

Mechanize gruni is whatever.

ATO Aid to play the superpowers off each other, Yugo strat.

Agnolia trade is necessary for Agnland ED.

Wehlen alliance is good for anti-bludism (yknow what i mean).

Morna Port is good mainly because of green infrastructure and production. Benfi port seems worse in comparison, I mean, I can get up to 4 ED, but Catsland said I'd need Gruni green earlier, so I'm getting 3 ED anyway?

CBRA is whatever.

Gasom shares is whatever, we need money right now, Gasom is stable.

Nationalize both is great.

FTCC, VAT is fine. REI, also good, but Bank would be preferable.

Neo-Sollist manifesto is fine.

Valgsland alliance is great.

WLA is wholesome.

The rest kinda doesn't matter.

I see nothing questionable in this plan overall.

Maybe I do subsidise farms for Gruni plan and do Bank instead of REI?

[buoyant sedge]

@fathom tinsel Remind me, how early do I need green Gruni and Lorren to get the full Morna Port synergy? Like, with this plan above, I think you said I don't have Gruni green early enough to get +4 ED, right?

I might aim for large surplus if I can find the ED for it.

I have 15 ED for the surplus check.
Assume +1 from earlier green Gruni combined with Morna Port.
+1 from focus instead of manifesto.
+1 from healthcare surplus.
2 more. Idk where from.

Maybe I don't revoke the emergency? Idk.

[buoyant sedge]

@fickle oxide Do you have comments or remarks about this plan? I feel like it achieves almost everything I wanted, so it's the best I can come up with.

The only real changes I'd want is to either find 5 ED somewhere to get a large surplus, but it's not really necessary and no matter what I think of I'm missing 2 ED.

Solo investment into Gasom to end up with a 20% ownership, but it's not necessary either, it's purely roleplay to talk about nationalization in the epilogue.

Maybe, just so I can avoid enacting VAT, I'd do:
-11 - Nationalize both.
-12 GB - Decrees - REI, FTCC, Bank.
Neo-Sollist manifesto.
-13 GB - Bergia Centralization.
22 malenyevist points (more since REI + Bank, I guess 24?)
-12 GB - Valgsland Island.
-10 GB - Valgsland Alliance.
-11 GB - Contanan Aid
-10 GB - Less Smoke
-9 GB - Healthcare Surplus
-8 GB - Medium Surplus
-9 GB - Lespian Tariffs
DEBT CRISIS
-10 GB - CFFA.
-9 GB - Alcohol Tax.
-7 GB - Luxury Tax.
-6 GB - Tax Efficient Economy.
No reduced debt unfortunately.

That would also be a net +2 of ED I think

since VAT is -1 (?) and Bank is +1

Lemme think...

@flat fox Can you remind me if VAT is -1 ED?

Since I got 15 ED previously
No VAT is 16 ED
Bank instead is 17 ED
Healthcare surplus, I suppose I can do the ED option, 18 ED
Instead of manifesto, go for economy focus, that's 19 ED
Veto smoking bill? I guess? Hmmm.

Taurus for the first megaproject is an option too, that'd unlock solo Gasom investment for example

If my economic consistency will allow it

[flat fox]

I've been told repeatedly it is, unfortunately.

[buoyant sedge]

7 GB - Start.
6 GB - L-1 Railway.
(No Economic Relief Plan).
5 GB - Tourism Act.
Choose Taurus.
4 GB - Gasom Co-Investment.
3 GB - GREEN.
EPA at 49%.
-9 GB - Budget Meeting.
-10 GB - WRA.
-12 GB - Lorren RI.
-13 GB - L-1 Issue.
-8 GB Taxes - Increase All Taxes.
TRADE WAR CHECK Passed.
-9 GB - Mechanize Gruni.
-7 GB - ATO Aid.
-8 GB - Agnolia Trade.
-6 GB - Wehlen Alliance.
-8 GB - Morna Port.
-9 GB - CBRA.
-10 GB - Choose SSC.
-7 GB - Gasom Shares (2/3 shares).
-11 GB - Nationalize Both.
-12 GB - Decrees - REI, FTCC, Bank.
Economy focus.
-13 GB - Bergia Centralization.
24 malenyevist points?
-12 GB - Valgsland Island.
-10 GB - Valgsland Alliance.
-12 GB - WLA.
Arcasian MIC.
-11 GB - Contanan Agricultural Aid.
-10 GB - Less Smoke Bill.
Healthcare ED.
20 ED?
-6 GB - Large Surplus.
-7 GB - Lespian Tariffs.
DEBT CRISIS CHECK Happens.
-8 GB - CFFA.
-7 GB - Alcohol Tax.
-5 GB - Luxury Tax.
-4 GB - Tax Efficient Economy.

MAYBE?!

I know this channel kinda went offtopic, but I don't really care at this point, it's my little notebook for suzerain-related stuff by now.

I will try to work on that DOC tho.

My biggest problem right now is if I can do no Economic Relief Act, choose Taurus for the first project and do EPA at 49% or will it end up as a mixed economy.

And of course if my calculations are correct and I get exactly 20 ED.

Well that's enough for now.

large surplus would be great, but no Neo-Sollist/Socialist manifesto, less PO from Healthcare surplus might risk a revolt as well, having to use Taurus might be hard to justify too... Hmmmm...

[fickle oxide]

you are way more knowledgable than I am when it comes to ED and stuff so I'll leave it up to you

but it looks good from what I can see

[buoyant sedge]

Recovery happened quite easily. My question is, are there any economic decisions you find questionable and would like changed?

[buoyant sedge]

I think I’ll try:

Bank instead of VAT (+2 ED).
Economy focus instead of manifesto (+1 ED).
Healthcare surplus (+1 ED).
Sarna Agricultural Zone instead of Morna Port (maybe +1 ED? Or even +2?).

It should give me a large surplus, even if barely.

[flat fox]

Oh by the way, I don't think Bank increases ED.

[fickle oxide]

nah this all looks good to me tbh

I think you cooked

[buoyant sedge]

More questions.

Do you know what Valken’s Blitzkrieg is and care for it? Or winning the war any way I see fit is all you’d care for?

I’m modernising the Air Force for roleplay and being able to do March on Tzarsbourgh, but Navy would be more optimal, simply more ED.

[fickle oxide]

I think both of them work for rp in winning the war but if you want navy then you need to go iosef route

More ships of the same tech won't do any good, Valken says so himself

[fickle oxide]

Winning the war in any way works

Best is done solo but that's just pure Sollism

If you got other plans I don't think it is a deal breaker

[buoyant sedge]

I would Modernise but keep conscription. That way we have a modern, conscription based army of 400k men and the most modern navy we could get. Plus Valgish navy and modern 140k soldiers + Wehzek 100k genocide troops.

I will try to make dig in into attack Dome work.

[buoyant sedge]

Even with this setup I'm up to 18 ED. I cannot find 2 more? I guess the 2nd megaproject just doesn't kick in until later.

So the question is. Do I do Bank instead of VAT and just end the game with -6 GB, after getting the debt crisis at -9 GB (-8 but Lespian sanctions), which means no reduced debt, or do I go back to the old plan?

Although tbh some Portuguese politician said something I really liked

Debt doesn't exist to be paid

but to be managed

• I assume Rummish ecoonmy is like thrice our own, if we force them to pay sanctions, it'll do a shit ton.

Like they demand 2 GB for a war that lasted 15 days? And I assume Dig in and defend into Dome will take months if not years (idk actually)? I think we can demand 6 GB or some shit in the roleplay.

I can also print money.

I also guess I should go to a defensive war ot have lileas quit the cabinet

fuck her

I'm still torn what to do about decrees

[flat fox]

Please do not the lileas.

Always control the central bank, if you don't, those traitors can cause a capital flight that tanks the sordish economy.

[buoyant sedge]

VAT + FTCC + Bank gives me 1 GB too much, doesn't feel as minmaxed.

VAT + FTCC + REI is perfect, but that means the bank stays independent. Which can be a good or a bad thing, depends on RP. But I do reduce debt.

Bank + FTCC + REI is also great, but it means no reduced debt.

I have some basic economic knowledge, so I know debt will pretty much never be fully repaid, we can only kinda hope to keep a good debt to GDP ratio.

One of the countries with the least debt to GDP ratio, Estonia at around 20%, will soon bump it up to like ~35% because of the increased military spending.

With 428 billion and 513 GDP, we have an 83% ratio

which isn't terrible, Japan has a strong economy despite having like 260%

But I also know most countries keep the ratio around 50-60%? I'll double check.

It's a bit old, but it'll do

83% debt to GDP ratio, but assume a war victory and reparations will fix the situation a little. Plus the newly acquired land should boost GDP as well, I mean, more people working, more GDP.

Although it will probably be quite a money sink to rebuild these lands.

Eurozone requires less than 60% debt to GDP ratio

Sordland could not join the Eurozone

Maybe we can start austerity in the 2nd term? Kinda?

Nah, not really. I mean, I guess with Rumburg defeated and puppeted by Valgsland, we could kinda defund the military...? Not very Sollist but idk. Keep a strong navy, but defund the army and perhaps the Air Force.

[flat fox]

I am proud of Greece. They're truly a model nation.

[buoyant sedge]

To be fair they reduced it to like 130% lately

but yeah the 13 h work days are hard

They will have to endure the brain drain somehow

This is 2025 apparently?

[buoyant sedge]

I think I'd go with the 3rd option. I can just LARP that reparations + VAT enacted ASAP + raised large corporations taxes + owning the big four + oil from Wehlen and Dome will fix my deficit.

And I do enjoy that the debt is truly minmaxed. Passed the trade war threshold at -9.

7 GB - Start.
6 GB - L-1 Railway.
No Economic Relief Plan.
5 GB - Tourism Act.
4 GB - Choose SSC.
3 GB - Gasom Co-Investment.
2 GB - GREEN.
EPA at 49%.
-10 GB - Budget Meeting.
-11 GB - WRA.
-13 GB - Lorren RI.
Late L-1 Issue.
-8 GB Taxes - Increase All Taxes.
TRADE WAR CHECK Passed.
-9 GB - Mechanize Gruni.
-7 GB - ATO Aid.
-8 GB - Agnolia Trade.
-6 GB - Wehlen Alliance.
Modernise Navy.
-8 GB - Morna Port.
-9 GB - CBRA.
-10 GB - Choose SSC.
-7 GB - Gasom Shares (2/3 shares).
-11 GB - Nationalize Both.
-12 GB - Decrees - REI, FTCC, Bank.
Neo-Sollist Manifesto.
-13 GB - Bergia Centralization.
23 malenyevist points.
-12 GB - Valgsland Island.
-10 GB - Valgsland Alliance.
-12 GB - WLA.
-11 GB - Less Smoke Bill.
Healthcare PO.
Arcasian MIC.
-10 GB - Contanan Agricultural Aid.
No industrial expansion.
16 ED?
-8 GB - Medium Surplus.
-9 GB - Lespian Tariffs.
DEBT CRISIS CHECK Happens.
-10 GB - CFFA.
-9 GB - Alcohol Tax.
-7 GB - Luxury Tax.
-6 GB - Tax Efficient Economy.

I'm thinking what else could be minmaxed here while maintaining the LARP

.
Late L-1 is fine. To be honest, mechanically, it's in large part done to get Gus' investments and for the sake of national pride of catching up to the superpowers. Roleplay-wise, I will fire the incompetent idiots that got their positions due to nepotism and modernise SSC instead of rewarding the outdated methods.

Selling Gasom shares sucks, but mechanically, it's +3 GB, keeping the shares would give me just +1 GB from divestments (I think?). it will be nationalized by force, probably without compensation since Alphonso still owns a majority share (probably not fully nationalized to not lose international support, just majroity, and then I'd be tightening EPA over the years back to 10% or even 0% later on), I just wanted to keep it afloat for now.

Nothing else stands out to me. I really like this plan.

I mean if I repealed EPA and kept my co-invested shares I'd get +3 GB divestments, but like duh, what the fuck, impossible to justify EPA repeal on a Sollist Emergency run.

[past yarrow]

How about privatize education

Indeed, "privatize" education in lore context is just allow people found new private schools

[fathom tinsel]

Nonsense

[buoyant sedge]

I have no one advocating for it + it’s a major net loss of malenyevist points, while I barely passed the threshold at 23 points. Maybe 24 if I embraced socialist manifesto, but neo-Sollism feels better.

[buoyant sedge]

I’m now thinking I could maybe veto Greeen, since I have 23 points and Green is a net +2. What to do with that 1 spare GB tho?

Let’s say solo Gasom investment, that’d be… +1 net GB. Useless.

On time L-1? That can be justified RP wise tbh.

But wait, that’s 1 GB too little then.

I’d get a debt crisis at -10.

Assume late L-1 is -1 ED in my case. On time it would be +2 ED. A net of +3. Plus healthcare surplus for +1 ED. And no VAT. Maaaybe?

I’d get net +1 GB if I end up with a large surplus. Since yknow, only +2 Gasom shares sale instead of +3 and +4 instead of +2 surplus…

Nothing good either.

[past yarrow]

I have a question, why dont you choose Taurus for 1st mega project

Like, with these much Malenyevist points and decisions you can still get the consistent planned economy

[buoyant sedge]

EPA at 49% leaves me very little wiggle room to get a consistent planned economy. I’m not enacting Stim cheques nor lowering SME taxes, which are consistent with planned economy. I just doubt with Taurus I’d get a consistent planned economy. That’s purely mechanically speaking, LARP is also hard to justify.

Malenyevist points are irrelevant here tbh

Choosing SSC has no impact on malenyevist points but has in consistency for example, its two separate metrics.

[buoyant sedge]

I keep thinking but I do enjoy GREEN, not only I get to show off the GREEN Synergy to unbelievers, caring for the environment is rather a positive, no?

I also end the game at 25 ED, so it's safely past the recovery threshold, so I can roleplay it as the game's limitations, my economy got much much better than it claims it got.

[buoyant sedge]

I believe this is as good as it gets. I'll do a quick test run to see if it actually works the way I want it to and I suppose nothing stops me from starting the file digging.

I think I can even skip Economic degree

I'll go with history for the roleplay

(as it teaches us realpolitik)

@fickle oxide Might as well ask. I'm thinking about the roleplay and I'm not sure what to do with the NFP. I won't be allying them, that's for sure. But now, I'm considering a few options:

• Begin working on a dictator constitution, later declare an emergency. When Hawker starts threatening me, revoke the emergency, go to war to avoid impeachment, begin working on a dictator constitution (primarily trying to destroy the power of the judiciary) with the NFP in the 2nd term. As a side note, for my ACP investigation, I'd focus on the Oligarchs and while Koronti is always arrested for life, Tusk isn't, so I'd get to keep Tusk in prison.

• Begin working on a democratic constitution, later declare an emergency. When Hawker starts threatening me, revoke the emergency, go to war to avoid impeachment, begin working on a democratic constitution (like actually fix the loopholes) in the 2nd term with Suheil/Leke (since Ricter is in prison). For my ACP investigation, I'd investigate the opposition, prove that Suheil is a genuine good soul and arrest the NFP leaders, making them fall out of the elections while I get to absord the nationalist votes.

[compact sonnet]

rolewicz has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

[buoyant sedge]

My main dilemma is whether the NFP are my disloyal ally or an enemy I need to crush and absord their voter base.

And don't get me wrong, the democratic reforms wouldn't be "Ricter is right" but "The USP reformists aren't wrong to agree we need change, but we should be in charge".

[fickle oxide]

hm

ok I need to ask again, what run was this

Sollism run but for 3.1?

the whole getting help from both Contana and Arcasia requires so many choices that Soll would never do that I keep forgetting what the point of the run was

or were we being a pragmatic neutral leader that is doing what's best for Sordland, regardless of ideology

[buoyant sedge]

Neo-Sollism. Pillars of sollism are kept (emergency, planned economy, NFP bills signed + BFF crushed), but without the anti-communist sentiment.

[fickle oxide]

oh ok

[buoyant sedge]

Like I have so many ambitious plans that require GB

it's either some privatization or foreing aid

and playing the superpowers off each other, getting both of their investments, was preferable to me

• Hegel is a good ally

[fickle oxide]

no I think you are absolutely right

it's the games way of letting you do that is making this look like larping

getting all the commie points

I wish there was a better alternative to get both aid

like quid pro quo instead of just collecting points

we are in a very strategic point

anyway I'll get back to your question now

[buoyant sedge]

Yugoslavia is the inspiration of this strat. Despite technically being closer to Contana (as Lileas notes, they liked our planned economy), we show them we aren't their allies just because and they need to work harder to get us to be friendly with them, or else we'll go to Arcasia.

And both superpowers try to bribe us to join them, bada bim badabom the equivalent of 4 GB from Arcasia, the equivalent of 3 GB from Contana.

[fickle oxide]

I think it would have been healthier for the game to give us the option of getting aid from arcasia later even though we accepted contanan aid first just because of how valuable Sordland's position is

like maybe backroom deal with Rumburg gone wrong that made Arcasia plan for its downfall

OH like Rumburg getting kicked out of OMEC

[buoyant sedge]

The lease of our air base is presumably temporary, at some point we will kick them out and the rest of the aid is just "here is money, plz don't join the other bloc"

[fickle oxide]

being exposed for nukes

those should have been a factor for us to be able to get Arcasian aid later because they want us to take down Rumburg or something

[buoyant sedge]

To be fair Arcasia could try bribing us into NOT destabilizign Rumburg, since obviously capitalists adn monarchists get along much better than commies and monarchists.

[fickle oxide]

that is not wrong but I would be worried if Rumburg was building nukes

that would be the tipping point

[buoyant sedge]

Maybe. I'm working with what I have tho and first ATO aid and then Valgsland alliance is the only option of getting both powers interested in us.

[fickle oxide]

yeah I know you do, I'm just not satisfied with how the game is making us do it.

[buoyant sedge]

I still find it very weird promising neutrality and banning Red Youth means Arcasia doesn't offer investments but idk

[fickle oxide]

like if people were to question our choices along the way and we would tell them we are doing this to get UC to look warmer to us after taking Arcasian aid

[buoyant sedge]

Apparently they actually care for freedom of speech or some shit

[fickle oxide]

like an actual in-game explanation for our characters motivation being conveyed through conversations

[buoyant sedge]

To be honest in NON of the speeches I said stuff like "the future lies in the east"

Someone told me before

all the "comrade Hegel" stuff

is just lip service

to fix our strained relations and find the best ally in the region

not like we're obliged to meet with Malenyev and join CSP just because of Valgsland alliance

[fickle oxide]

it would have been done very well if at the end of our trades (or during the drinking) we would have inner monologue about doing lip service

since the game should be able to understand the intention

ah it's alright

they got way bigger priorities

anyway

pillars of sollism is republicanism, nationalism and statism

you know of black battalion right?

NFP would call it the Great Betrayal for what happened to them

NFP does not like Sollism's unity and they want bluds out completely

so if this were to endanger the unity of Sordland then another "betrayal" would be more appropriate

[fickle oxide]

they are your enemy of my enemy is my friend

[fickle oxide]

if Suheil/Leke is not the enemy in your eyes then get rid of NFP

Neo-Sollism should rectify Soll's mistakes

Sordland needing energy in the 30s did not mean Bluds needed to be forcefully dislocated without any proper reimbursment

far as I know I've never seen any news about Bluds getting compensation for any of the actions taken

if anything I saw more news about it being an inside job to have an excuse for blud extermination

they underestimated the power of Bluds and didn't see them as equals, leading to BFF

it was one of Soll's biggest mistakes coupled with aftermath of Wehlen destabilization

showing that he is not good at geopolitics either

by being able to use both superpowers for your own benefit AND pacifying the Bluds through reconciliation (Suheil route) and unify them, you become Neo-Sollist

you are the USP

NFP will always sow discord through their racism so their statism would never work

hell Rikard had his chance too by accepting help from the Bluds but he was racist af too

imagine having the opportunity to bring communism to Sordland and you refuse help from Bluds because they are Bluds

instead of trying to be what Soll is/was, you are doing what Soll wanted but wasn't capable

[fickle oxide]

definition of Neo-Sollism in my eyes

[buoyant sedge]

Okay, in terms of Bluds. My approach is that of forceful assimilation.

"Be loyal to the state of Sordland and we're all good, regardless of your ethnicity". My logic was, first we crack down on separatism with UELA, RHB and WPB ban. But after we destroy the terrorism (as in get BFF: Eliminated), we need to re-integrate moderate Bluds into the Sordish society. They are still Sords, as per article 6 & 7 of the constitution, that get represented in the GNA (to be honest 2/4 Bludish voters vote for the USP, the rest seems to go to the People's Front), but separatism is presumably gone, so now we can make some concessions and begin the reconciliation process, basically fixing one of Soll's biggest mistakes.

Sollists do NOT want extermination like the NFP wants it. Both Kibener and Remus strip Bluds of Sordish citizenship and you can probably imagine where that line of thought goes.

As for Soll, I'd imagine him right now and on the compass vs him pre-Izzam are basically two different people. I might actually ask on the general chat at some point, where would pre-Izzam Soll be.

[fickle oxide]

yeah you are right on the money with this assessment

Izzam incident was also Phelix Bron's tipping point from being moderate to outright exterminationist

[buoyant sedge]

Also, as for other politicians. While in the roleplay my hatred for Ricter is inmeasurable (he wants military defunded while Rumburg wants to wage war, he wants to join ATO just like that, he wants to repeal EPA and a few more things I hate), Suheil is a socdem, so it's kinda whatever. She's close to us in terms of economy, just much more democratic.

[fickle oxide]

Ricter is like Albin in my eyes

they are both snakes

also they think they are playing the game so they have 0 remorse for their actions

[buoyant sedge]

Since I embrace Neo-Sollist manifesto 13 reformists leave the USP

so I kinda become this left wing conservative party

left peronism I guess?

[fickle oxide]

Suheil speaks from experience of real discrimination so she is much more aligned with unity than personal ambition

[fickle oxide]

national socialist

[buoyant sedge]

Somewhere in the top left square of the compass, for sure.

[fickle oxide]

I think this guide is gonna be great

unfortunately for me I already extensively played this update

so I might not be doing your run this time

[buoyant sedge]

To be fair it's been taking me what feels like a year at this point since 3.1 came out

I mena, on the other hand, the first guide was posted very late into 3.0.9

[fickle oxide]

well it's not like you were doing them for the current playerbase

[buoyant sedge]

but well, it was never really about being popular

I do it because I enjoy it, because it keeps me playing Suzerain

[fickle oxide]

most people are already more or less aware of what does what

what you do helps bring more people in

[buoyant sedge]

to write down all this stuff and roleplay

I fucking loved the roleplay sessions

D&D and all that

[fickle oxide]

I was about ready to leave this game for good after failing for the second time until I saw your guide and it made me pick the game back up

played from start to finish and enjoyed the hell out of it

[buoyant sedge]

To be fair, when I first started making the first guide, there were tons of liberal, socdem, commie (as in dictator + planned eco) or fascist (as in dictator + capitalism) guides, but non for emergency.

[fickle oxide]

exactly what I was looking for

I am sure it wasn't just me

[random sky]

https://tenor.com/view/bald-bald-head-shiny-bald-head-sponge-bob-sponge-bob-square-pants-gif-4830356535569685568

[fickle oxide]

oh yeah btw

@buoyant sedge I saw in a reddit post from over a year ago that doing L-1, gun rights decree and MIC combined gives you +1 ED as a military synergy

is L-1 really doing that too?

[random sky]

coding is not in my area of expertise

i dont understand shit

[buoyant sedge]

I do wonder who to use ACP on the first time around. Oligarchs or straight up opposition? Keep in mind, the first round of investigation investigates Koronti/Ricter, the second investigates Tusk/Suheil and/or NFP.

[fickle oxide]

this is the ss from the post

[buoyant sedge]

I primarily look at this for synergies. It seems to be the case. Military industry + fund military + gun rights + L-1 (can be late).

https://www.reddit.com/r/suzerain/comments/1h0fxob/sordland_late_game_economic_synergies/

Yeah this post is pretty good

the only wrong think I can remember

off the otp of my head

is that you CAN get multiple industry synergies

as in this part:

"Despite being able to have multiple industrial expansion programs at that same time, you'll get only one synergy. The priority is Agricultural > Automative > Electronics > Military, so for example, if you have Contanan Agricultural aid, but you also fund Electronics, then only the Agricultural synergy will be counted."

is wrong.

The rest is valid

[fickle oxide]

yeah but the post is from a year ago so back then that wasn't the case probably

the user is deleted so I doubt he will fix that lmao

[buoyant sedge]

I think it might have been Catsland's alt account

[fickle oxide]

wouldn't surprise me

[buoyant sedge]

Any comment on this? I might be just tired, and as I said, it doesn't matter, but I'm leaning towards Oligarchs just because Hawker promised to look into Ricter personally, so I can use ACP on other threats.

also I'll soon leave for uni, so yknow

[fickle oxide]

yeah oligarchs need to go

[fickle oxide]

like leave your house?

or just go to uni

[buoyant sedge]

I mean I'm a student, I have lectures starting in 24 minutes

[fickle oxide]

oh ok

I thought like you are starting university

and you need to leave

like leave your house

live there or something

nvm lmao

[fickle oxide]

no worries

we can talk later

[buoyant sedge]

What

no, I'm closer to finishing uni than starting it tbh

Just to make absolutely sure, I'll have Sollist points in the 30's, and I'll try to not tighten immigrationw hen Garaci dmeands it. Maybe my previous tests were wrong and he can stomach it?

but well, later

12 minutes to lectures

[buoyant sedge]

34 sollist points, relaxed immigration, conscription kept, fully nationalized both, still unconstitional. Sadge.

[buoyant sedge]

I can't find it, but you said Bank doesn't give +1 ED. I just did Bank, FTCC and REI, my ED went from 12 to 14. You might be right, unless the ED from REI is delated or some shit.

[flat fox]

In truth, I'm not sure about anything.

[buoyant sedge]

Catsland and Catspaw recently made me question my own knowledge as well.

But one of my professor had a saying

paraphrasing and translating

the best kind of people are the ones that don't know/doubt their knowledge. Because when they do, they keep checking and verifying before making a statement. Unlike people that are sure they know and repeat the same misinformation over and over and say it with such confidence, others start taking it at face value as well.

That was during an oral exam, he basically gave a small speech to give me time to think. Cool guy overall.

@fathom tinsel Do you know if there's any difference whatsoever between detaining Iliana straight up or doing it all above board?

This part I mean

I'm also wondering how to approach Aschraf. I mean, of course the obvious thing is to forbid it anyway, but I'm thinking that maybe I can endure the PO hit and show off as willing to compromise. But I think even in the best case scenario I still get kicked out, the opression will just go from red to yellow.

Also just to show off. I am unimpeachable apparently? As in there's nothing to impeach me for, at the moment.

[buoyant sedge]

That could explain why Rumburg collapses so quickly after losing these two cities

What?

Siege of Thornbourgh? Don't we just establish a defensive line around TZARSbourgh and Dome and wait for them to give up?

This is what the summary said

In the end, I seemingly have:
1 nationalist vote
2 conservative votes
0 liberal votes
4 centrist votes
2 socialist votes
0 bludish votes.

Which makes no fucking sense, since the previous summary assumed 3 nationalist, 3 conservative, 3 socialist and 3 liberal + I signed MRA later for 2/4 Bludish votes.

I'm gonna completely ignore the in-game files and say I got
3/4 nationalists - that's what the in-game summary says + I'm a war hero. The rest didn't vote since NFP is gone.
3/4 conservatives - that's what the in-game summary says + I'm a war hero. Maybe even 4/4, since who else would they vote for if not a neo-sollist USP.
1/4 liberal votes - I did some liberal decisions like education reform, increased human rights etc + I'm a war hero. The rest goes to the PFJP.
4 centrist votes - that's what the in-game summary says + I'm a war hero.
3 socialist votes - that's what the in-game summary says + I'm a war hero. The rest went to the PF.
2 Bludish votes - Since I signed MRA guaranteeing that much. The rest went for PF.

So I've got... 16/24 votes, assuming 2 voter groups didn't vote. Exactly 66% of the votes. Both PFJP and PF have 12,5%. With the Sordish system favoring large parties, I'd say USP has like 179 seats, the PFJP has 39 seats, the PF has 32 seats.

[compact sonnet]

rolewicz has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

[buoyant sedge]

I think I can safely roleplay the USP having a majority by themselves, now it's down to uniting the party to reform the constitution however I wish.

Damn, these party rallies must be absurd

[buoyant sedge]

Let's see

Prologue

kinda

idk if I'll finish it today

it's 23:38

Did you ever hear people say Lachaven start is +3 PW but -1 PO, Holsord is +2 PW but 0 PO and Deyr is +1 PW, but +1 PO? Well, WRONG.

Lachaven - +3 PW, -2 PO, -1 BO.

Holsord - +2 PW, +1 PO.

Deyr - +1 PW, +2 PO, +1 BO.

[buoyant sedge]

(tell me I'm not delusional and people actually think that way. I used to think so at least)

This part has absolutely no relevance it seems

For the sake of being thorough, easy mode is
+2 ED
+2 GB
+1 PW
+3 PO
+1 BO

Normal life is... normal

HardLife is
-2 ED
-2 GB
-2 PO
-2 BO

[buoyant sedge]

What the fuck could degrees be called

Law_Degree is not it

Law itself has a shit ton of matches for Law funded, defunded, maintained, SSP, ACP etc etc

(like literally 8600)

THERE IT FUCKING IS

BaseGame.Prologue_Studyplace_Lachaven_Economic

BaseGame.Prologue_Studyplace_Holsord_Law

BaseGame.Prologue_Studyplace_Deyr_History

But for specifics I'll dig in later

[random sky]

can you find anything related to sordish language?

[buoyant sedge]

(plz plz plz tell me I'm not delusional)

[flat fox]

I heard something similar to what you said, but didn't realize the difference between holsord and Lachaven was so big.

[past yarrow]

Holy crap

Sordish people really hate rich person

Im shocking

[random sky]

i dont get even a single word of these

please explain in Minecraft terms

[fathom tinsel]

Well

Is you get scandal vs you not

Unless Lucian leaks it

It does seem to make OMEC harder due to Sacker asking about the SSP scandal

When i mean harder i meant practically impossible since you cant talk about the spy

I havent find a way to get OMEC expulsion with it

[buoyant sedge]

To be honest, look at my economic plan. I avoid the protests at 4 PO, and that's WITH the +3 PO healthcare surplus. If I started rich instead of poor, I'd face a Bludish revolt.

[buoyant sedge]

I was so damn sure it's a net +/-2 of PO, not fucking net 4.

Especially since my PO lategame seems to be low, mainly since I defend Petr every time.

[buoyant sedge]

No SSP. I'm just using the Emergency powers to detain her immediately, instead of giving her a fair trial. I still get the National Security Breached and the press conference.

[flat fox]

I don't think you need any more than 1PO to avoid protests.

[fathom tinsel]

Thats niche

No clue

[buoyant sedge]

If I choose the wrong dialogue, Franc still warns me about protests. Like, if instead of asking "got friends/found a gf" I ask "how are you doing", he talks about joining some of the protests himself.

[flat fox]

Oh really? I wouldn't know about that, my franc is defending Sordland against the rummish threat.

[buoyant sedge]

Maybe I should send him to the army?

I do end up reconciling with Bluds tho and want the best for my son

Do you also have any elaborate opinion on the navy modernisation with dig in and Dome vs air force modernisation and blitzkrieg?

The latter seems to dominate for now, but eh, I'm still not sure.

Also I'm re-considering Wehlen alliance lately.

I love being able to transfer Gendarmerie and crush the BFF in Sordland AND Wehlen, but the international backlash is a steep price.

[flat fox]

I'd actually advocate for navy modernization and pincer to capital, end the war quickly and protect your naval trade from one of the biggest naval powers in the world, as Rumburg's submarines are very recognized.

[flat fox]

I'd only do wehlen alliance if you're planning to do intermerkopum in Rizia and set things up for Sordland to be a neutral nation, no regional powers alliances, just Agnolia and Wehlen helping you piece up Rumburg and strengthening you all from the superpowers.

[buoyant sedge]

I'll look into that? It seems like it would require Valgsland to invade northern Rumburg, but I'll see if it works. I mean, the pincer into capital. Tbh, I would prefer to siege the capital to avoid war devastation in Dome.

[buoyant sedge]

Hm. Fair, but I'm not convinced.

I'm using this chart for the info, so far it didn't fail me
https://www.reddit.com/r/suzerain/comments/1oao6xj/sordland_war_flowchart/#lightbox

Wiat

would it work?

I'd need Valgsland on the front for Pincer

But then have Valgsland invade Northern Rumburg

Pincer into capital won't work

Pincer into Dome would

[buoyant sedge]

There are 55 checks for BaseGame.Prologue_Studyplace_Lachaven_Economics

i'll look into them in a sec

I'll note for later that there's a check "1st coup protested"

a check for Lachaven birthplace, studied economics and promoting makret eco? idk

Chcks for the Franc talk

weird

nothing about the -1 ED from protests?

I can't find it.

Maybe it's called differently?

Let me browse Economics

Option_University_Economics / Law / History

only 3 mentions, nvm

Nope, most searches for Economics is studyplace thingy

let me check one more thing

[fathom tinsel]

I can confirm this look almost identical to mine wip

[buoyant sedge]

Funder also points at studyplace

[fathom tinsel]

Without Dome phase 2

[buoyant sedge]

As in you didn't test it extensively yet or that other guy is wrong?

I am curious who that is, like jeez, not a discord user and made something like that?

[fathom tinsel]

The Rumburg isolation part is a bit false

[buoyant sedge]

Go on...?

[fathom tinsel]

You dont need that much points to gr tv interview

[buoyant sedge]

When I'm back (leaving for uni, then going back to family house), I will browse through _Studyplace, it's only 195 matches

[buoyant sedge]

Hm. Well, I trust you more if that counts for anything. Now off I go.

[fathom tinsel]

Tho the Thornbourgh solo war is a bit useless

I guess it is technically in the game files

[buoyant sedge]

I do not understand?

It seems to be like Tzarsbourgh is the rughtmost path. Since it has both NO dig in and defend and NO pincer:

And in the 2nd part you start from Match on Thornbourgh. I’d yes, then the left side, if no, then it’s Dome, the right side.

And from what little i tested both the right side/tzarsbourgh and right side/dome worked.

[fathom tinsel]

?

Oh wrong chat

[buoyant sedge]

kekw

[buoyant sedge]

Let me see...

Eh, is it? Let me think

solo dig down will work with expanded army/air, but solo thornbourgh requires modernised army/air

solo pincer requires no conscription, but solo thornbourgh requires it

solo tzarsbourgh just doesn't work

yup, useless

[fathom tinsel]

The flowchart is taken directly from the game file

Nothing wrong with it, just that usually i would check it with actual run

Since theres sometimes conditions that dont lined up or was correct but doesnt anymore

[buoyant sedge]

Fair point.

Anyway, off I go again

[fathom tinsel]

Like the Wehlen + Lespia on same path used to be that they would shoot each other but it now should be fine

I dont see that in the flowchart so this seem up to date, or the dev changed it back again without me knowing

[unkempt yew]

For prologue choices. Try, basegame.prologue or something similar it should show you all the prologue options.

[buoyant sedge]

I’m thinking about this plan again. Instead of REI, I could do VAT and end with reduced national debt. And then roleplay enacting REI almost immediately in the next term.

Like what else would I do tbh?

Assume I end the game at -3 GB, so with a budget deficit.

I should probably use a pc to write rhat much

Well

[buoyant sedge]

Okay nevermind, I'd still have 1 GB too much. God how i wish stronger decrees allowed 4 decrees to be passed.

So let's assume -6 GB and that I need to fix the deficit.

VAT enacted, that's +2 GB already. I'm at -4 GB this way.

Raise large corporations taxes? I think with raised it's already at 35%. Looking at US back in the 50's, the statutory corporate tax rate was at 50%, but over the time got reduced to 35%. I mean, at some point, we'll cause a corporate exodus (as we already see 3 billion SR of foreign investment leave) and people to start evading taxes (ACP works well for it, we can also do public tax returns...). But since Lileas, Leke and Suheil do it in the epilogue, I'll assume it's still a valid option. To be a bit more fair, let's make it +2 GB.

I honestly still don't really understand how nationalized companies don't bring the state profits. I mean, I guess they do by giving ED, but I mean actual GB, we're still operating these companies for profit. I'll assume owning 4 of the largest corporations in Sordland is a net positive of GB, I just won't guess how much exactly.

I assume we can also introduce property taxes, inheritance taxes, capital gains tax... Of course again, until people start evading taxes.

Defund the military? I guess? Rumburg is gone, we're allied to Valgsland, there's no real threat unless we want to join the cold war.

No privatization obviously.

Contanan/Arcasian aid? Maybe? The lease of the base to Arcasia will eventually end, if they want to prolong it, they need to offer me something in return. Also, I assume Contana will step up their game as well, they'd love to refuel in Conriat.

Trade deals in general? Since Valgsland is friendly, nothing is really stopping us from taking part in international trade. In this game, I'd be a weapons producer, an energy producer and an agricultural producent. I surely will have surplus for export.

I'll even ignore Rummish reparations and assume it all went to fund the rebuliding of the newly conquered territories.

What to spend on then?

Expand the railway/build the highwy - I'll guess it's 2-3 GB. But with it covering Agnland, I think all the major infrastructure problems of Sordland are solved.

Gasom nationalization - I'll just trust Catsland and say it's canonically smaller than Bergia Steel and Heart of Sordland, each costing 2 GB to seize forcefully. I'll assume 2 GB for taking the majority of shares from Alphonso, just because with EPA at 49% it probably grew a little.

Sarna Agricultural Zone - I'll also say 3 GB, but it should soon pay for itself, I mean, we'd become a massive exporter of both weapons and agricultural goods. I don't see a point in Conriat Industrial Zone with my setup nor Benfi Airport.

Enact Rural Education Institutes, enact Free Prescription Medicine.

If possible, fund Healthcare, Education and maybe Law & Order again (to form community police). Defense can be maintained or even slightly defunded.

[buoyant sedge]

Let me just do a quick, humble summary and estimate.

+2 from VAT.
+2 from corporate taxes.
+1 or 2 from companies being operated for profit (I assume whatever surplus they make goes to the government budget).
+1 or 2 from defunding the military (it's a modern era, so we don't need to rebuild the army back to 400k, we can stay at 300k).
+2 or 3 GB from Arcasia/Contana from them trying to sway us one way or another.
+2 up to 4 GB from international trade deals (literally anyone).

So in the worst case scenario, +10 GB, so I'm at 4 GB. In the best case scenario, +15 GB, so I'm at 9 GB.

-2 or 3 GB from the Agnland project (I'm assuming with replaced SSC managers they'll improve and match Taurus' efficiency).
-2 GB from Gasom nationalization.
-3 GB from Sarna Agricultural Zone (I don't see any alternatives for the price, -4 GB makes no sense, -2 GB is a little too generous. Besides, they have all they need in place already, a prosperous Bergia, agricultural industry already expanded etc).
-2 GB for welfare decrees.
-2 or 3 GB from Community Police (since law is well-funded, I'm assuming we just need a slight increase to the interior funding).
-4 up to 6 GB for education and healthcare funding (optional since REI and FPM seems more efficient).

In the worst case scenario, -13 GB-19 GB (including education and healthcare funding). In the best, -11GB-15 GB.

And of course whatever bills come up throughout the game. I'm not sure I'd be able to afford free public transport and all that, but it looks stable enough.

Maybe maintain healthcare and education, but enact housing assistance? Seems like a more pressing issue after we fix the poor rural education/healthcare situation.

-15 GB in the worst scenario, -13 GB in the best scenario. I'm either at -9 GB in the worst case scenario or -4 GB in the best case scenario. Let's take the average, -7,5 GB, whatever.

MORE TAXES (since I ended up not counting inehritance, property etc etc)

Off I go to sleep

[buoyant sedge]

Wait

What if

NVM 1 GB too little to reduce debt

[buoyant sedge]

(I kept Gasom shares and tried to make up for it)

[buoyant sedge]

I have

An idea

Reduced debt + I can tighten immigration immediately.

And still recover Gruni

Ye? Idk wait

I think I’m missing one point

Damn you GREEN

If I don’t do geeen I have less PO, less malenyevist points and don’t get +3 GB but +2 GB from shares.

If I do solo investment instead of green I get a net +1 GB, so too much, and I worry about malenyevist points and PO

[past yarrow]

Tighten immigration now hurt Gruni very much

But dont hurt Agnland anymore

[buoyant sedge]

To be honest, tightening immigration early, while far from optimal, would be another win for the LARP. I can justify keeping it relaxed "for now", since our poor education system means we need to import educated immigrants, but I have an even better justification for tightening it immediately, both from sollist and malenyevist perspective.

I'm thinking maybe if I got rid of GREEN and did on-time L-1 instead, I'd be close to 20 ED for the large surplus?

• tightened immigration in this case

[past yarrow]

Indeed, tighten immigration is always good in roleplay. How can we distinguish innocent victim from criminal?

[past yarrow]

GREEN increase your ED

[buoyant sedge]

Ignore the PO, malenyevist etc checks

Assuming that info that late L-1 is -1 ED, while on time with Lorren RI is +2

nvm gotta play, I'll go backto it ltaer

I died

back to Suzerain

L-1 on time, while worse RP-wise, would be okay

Wait, I used the wrong plan

7 GB - Start.
6 GB - L-1 Railway.
No Economic Relief Plan.
5 GB - Tourism Act.
4 GB - Choose SSC.
3 GB - Gasom Co-Investment.
No GREEN.
EPA at 49%.
-9 GB - Budget Meeting.
-10 GB - WRA.
-12 GB - Lorren RI.
-13 GB - L-1 Issue.
-8 GB Taxes - Increase All Taxes.
TRADE WAR CHECK Passed.
-10 GB - New Farms.
-8 GB - ATO Aid.
-9 GB - Agnolia Trade.
-7 GB - Wehlen Alliance.
Modernise the Air Force.
-9 GB - Morna Port.
-10 GB - CBRA.
-11 GB - Choose SSC.
-9 GB - Gasom Shares (2/3 shares).
-13 GB - Nationalize Both.
-14 GB - Decrees - REI, FTCC, Bank.
Neo-Sollist Manifesto.
-15 GB - Bergia Centralization.
24 malenyevist points.
-14 GB - Valgsland Island.
-12 GB - Valgsland Alliance.
-14 GB - WLA.
-13 GB - Less Smoke Bill.
Healthcare PO.
4 PO.
Arcasian MIC.
-12 GB - Contanan Agricultural Aid.
No industrial expansion.
17 ED?
-8 GB - Large Surplus.
-9 GB - Lespian Tariffs.
DEBT CRISIS CHECK Happens.
-10 GB - CFFA.
-9 GB - Alcohol Tax.
-7 GB - Luxury Tax.
-6 GB - Tax Efficient Economy.

PRESUMABLY with L-1 on time I'd have 17 ED

With Healthcare surplus for +1 ED it's 18

The navy saving us from -1 ED is too late to count as I tested

[past yarrow]

In this run you will be non-corruption?

[buoyant sedge]

(I mean, duh, the tarrifs happen after the surplus check)

[buoyant sedge]

The only corruption I did was to send Franc to Holsord.

[past yarrow]

Send him to military to make him grow up

[buoyant sedge]

Also I defended Petr

Tbh I should just test this run

because 17 ED feels very off

[past yarrow]

If you tighten and no GREEN I fear that you can only reach +2 budget surplus

[buoyant sedge]

I mean the old plan is good, as I said, keeping relaxed immigration for now and tightening it later is whatever

but I am still seeking ways to improve it

just in case there's something more optimal or just as optimal but more larpy

[young flare]

what game is that

[buoyant sedge]

Hunt: Showdown. Extraction shooter set in ~1896, with some fantasy elements.

I love the gungame, having to play Springfield from 1866, or Caldwell shotgun from 1878, idk man, I can't find another game with that.

Some games might have Mosin, same as this game has, but all the other weapons, I just love it

The main gamemode is to spawn into a map with up to 11 other players (teams of 1-3), with some NPC bosses that you have to kill, banish (~3 miuntes of waiting) and extract with bounties from their bodies. Of course, if someone else kills and banishes the boss before you could, you can also kill them and take their credit.

[buoyant sedge]

The problem with me still tinkering with the plan is

while I go through the game files, I also write down the mechanical effects of my choices into the guide

so until I finally decide on a single plan and follow through with it to the end, with no changes

I can't really begin to work on the guide

and if I don't work on the guide, I'm not working on the file reading either

[young flare]

ah okay

thanks

[buoyant sedge]

I mean like idk, I keep thinking. Maybe my trusted advisor @flat fox wants to comment? Before proceeding, I'm considering:
A) Looking for a way to tighten immigration immediately and still recover. I feel like it's great in an RP sense, for a Sollist hating immigrants + for a malenyevist being against an influx of cheaper labour.
B) Keep immigration relaxed, tighten it later. Unfortunately, the way it's done in-game feels like a threat instead of a kind suggestion, but I can still roleplay it as "we need educated workers, but since I funded education and reformed it, we'll create domestic talents in a few years from now on, we can tighten it already" (as in a jutsification why I didn't tighten immediately and do in the middle of my term) + "we enjoyed the Tourism for a while, but since it's an emergency at this point, nobody visits anyway, so we don't need to placate them" (that is to explain Gruni ED).

[buoyant sedge]

My trusted advisor has failed.

idk it's 18:37 and I'm in no mood for any of the games I own.

Maybe I should start one of the games I bought on summer sale and didn't touch yet.

"Sheltered". Let's see.

[young flare]

what did you see

[buoyant sedge]

Meh.

I mean it's an endless survival

I'm supposed to custiomize my family but I'm not sure what's good and what's not

and I spent my entire 30 minutes just building random stuff while half of the family was on a supply run collecting random stuff

I will have to give it another shot after reading some guide

But since there's no "story mode", just endless or endless with pre-set starts.

I think I'll just collect all the achievements and leave it.

To be completely honest Vel

I'm in a mood for some story rich game

but... wait gotta go

I'll finish my thought in a bit

[buoyant sedge]

Okay back to this

honestly

I'm in a mood for something story rich, with great world building, characters and choices that matter

I've played almost all the Telltale games - I think I'm only missing Borderlands, but I'm just not interested in the world of Borderlands.

I've played ALL Quantic Dream games - Detroit: Bocme Human, Heavy Rain, Beoynd two Souls...

I've played the Dark Pictures Anthalogy. Or at least, the first (man of medan) and second (little hope), both disappointed me, but I should look into 3rd and 4th game

Until Dawn never goes on sale and I'm not paying 300 zł

Life is Strange is some fucking lesbian high school drama, I'm simply not interested

what else?

Recently Dispatch came out, but full price and only 2 chapters doesn't make me wnat to play it yet

Slay the Princess and Disco Elysium were nice, but not nice enough for another playthrough

idk man

[buoyant sedge]

I'm playing Hunt just to feel the stress from risking my Hunter over and over

and feel some thrill off that

I'm close to the last achievement tbh

then I'll probably begin playing it much less

as much as I enjoy it it needs to be played in moderation

but at the same time I need a warmup and all that

idk

23:21, early, but I'm going to sleep I hope

I'm just burned out I guess

[buoyant sedge]

If no comment happens I'll just move forward with relaxed immigration tightened later. This will be one of the weakpoints of this run, but given that the alternative assumes no GREEN, I think it'll have to do.

[flat fox]

You're missing out, the borderlands one is considered the best.

[flat fox]

Fahrenheit, Indigo Prophecy?

[buoyant sedge]

Eh. I've played Borderlands 2 with friends, but I'm severely disappointed, not once in these 6 years since I bought it I had the urge to play it. Personally, I liked The Wolf Among Us for the plot and characters the most, but frankly the choices mattered to little it was more like an interactive movie.

I'm still hoping for the second game, but we'll see, I'm not holding my breath anymore. TWD was also an interactive movie except for the last game, I actually began replaying it yesterday to get the remaining achievements.

[buoyant sedge]

Yeah this game was weird, but I played through it. Barely remember by now unfortunately, must have been around 2017? Well, whatever, I'm not really replaying games from Quantic Dream, non really captivated me.

I unironically liked Heavy Rain the most, even if the twist sucked and I knew that it was rushed. Just the plot of a depressed father trying his best to save his child was cool. Detriot was overall meh, Connor >>> Markus (a little too main-character-y, didn't feel organic) >>>>>>>>>>> Kara (already boring, but especially with the Alice twist, completely lost my interest). Beyond: Two Souls was weird as well, I'm just not a fan of sci-fi and supernatural shit.

[buoyant sedge]

I'll look into Dispatch.

I've decided to check out the subreddit after avoiding it very carefully.

And the first few posts are just "I like the blonde woman", "I like the tomboy", "will this woman be romancable" and "I want a gay romance", which is fucking disgusting, there are so many dating sims and straight up nsfw games, why is this game's discussions all centered around romance and nsfw?

Meh.

Maybe I should finally give Rizia a try

after hearing SO much about it already

I do wonder how my first playthrough would look tbh

I'd probably romance Lucita, have a child with her and make him heir, go to war, centralize by seizing Sazon lands...

[buoyant sedge]

I'm thinking of returning to this

but holy fucking shit if reading through game files isn't the most extremely tedious task.

Like I played this game and roleplayed because it sparked my creativity, while this whole browsing through game files killed it.

But at the same time my obsessive completionism/the need to be thorough forbids me from dropping that idea.

Besides, to be completely honest, I was in a mood for a fascist-ish game. The traditional "third way" between capitalism and socialism. To go back to the Neo-Sollist Capitalist and like, privatize welfare, nationalize companies, EPA at 49%... Ending with market or mixed economy, I guess, depends if I go dictator and need Koronti or autocrat and can kill both.

7 GB - Start.
6 GB - Start L-1 Railway.
4 GB - Business Bailouts.
Choose Taurus.
3 GB - Tourism Act.
1 GB - Gasom Investment.
EPA Repealed (?).
-11 GB - Budget Meeting.
-12 GB - WRA.
-14 GB - Lorren RI.
-15 GB - L-1 Construction Issues.
-10 GB Taxes - Increase All Taxes.
-8 GB - Privatize Education.
TRADE WAR CHECK.
-9 GB - Mechanize Gruni.
-10 GB - Agnolia Trade.
-8 GB - Wehlen Alliance.
-10 GB - Morna Port.
-11 GB - CBRA.
-9 GB - Healthcare Privatization.
-11 GB - Choose Taurus.
-13 GB - Nationalize BS.
-12 GB - Bailout Rebute.
-8 GB - Gasom Divestments (idk where I got this number from tbh).
-5 GB - decrees - FTTC, VAT, Private Prisons.
-6 GB - Bergia Centralization.
-4 GB - Valgsland Trade.
-3 GB - Less Smoke Bill.
-5 GB - MIC (solo war).
-1 GB - Large Surplus (I hope).
DEBT CRISIS CHECK.
-3 GB - WLA.
-4 GB - CFFA.
-3 GB - Alcohol Tax.
-1 GB - Luxury Tax.
0 GB - Tax Efficient Economy.
-2 GB - Housing Assistance.

Maybe instead of WRA I do H-3 Highway with Underhall, then use Taurus for 2 GB cheaper. EPA at 49%. All that.

Like there's always the argument in my head if this is supposed to be optimal af, so L-1 always wins, or for whatever reason roleplayed into making as many suboptimal choices as I can while still barely meeting the threshold for a great game.

[buoyant sedge]

@fickle oxide Look, I thought of making it into a reddit post, but I'll just ask you.

When you use a my steam guide for suzerain, or actually, any steam guide for suzerain, do you do any changes or do you follow the guide to the letter?

I ask primarily since one of the major reasons I did the "mechanical part" of the guide where I test every decision was to showcase that yes, you can't just be rude to Ewald and expect the game to not recognise it and change some variables.

Alternatively, I'm considering doing one last test run to see if it worked the way I wanted it to, and if it did, just post it as it is and maybe, just maybe, work on double checking every decision's mechanical effects and update the guide over time.

[fickle oxide]

I only do changes that is otherwise specified as "insignificant" to the overall plan

Such as having personal wealth investments or not

It's better if you release the guides intended vision first

Then update it to perfection or as close to it as you can get

Because the game itself is still missing key features such as rumburg buying gasom having 0 impact on the war effort

and you can't really do something game itself is missing

[buoyant sedge]

Very well. I'm picking the sollist/socialist game back up and focusing on the roleplay version. No promises when will it be released, but yeah.

Haven't played suzerain since october 23

[wispy cradle]

Greatt

[buoyant sedge]

I probably already did that, but can't remember nor find it, so I'm trying to find anything related to closign the consulate in Dome.

Journal was journal

Turn2 tho? What was that?

I think it was news

but idk

yeah journal is this: BaseGameSupport.Journal_Turn02_ClosedSordlandConsulateInRumburg",

"BaseGameSupport.News_Turn02_G_RumburgClosesConsulate"

So turn2 has to be a raport then?

BaseGame.Turn02_FPnT_Consulate_Retaliate = true;

Aha

just 36 mentions

and Consulate_Condemn

BaseGame.Turn02_FPnT_Consulate_Condemn

Nothing

Consulate_Condemn?

53 mentions

Some weird variable combinations, like WarnTraitors (calling protestors traitors instead of visiting towns) OR Autocrat path OR BoostPolice (deploy recruits) OR consulate condemn

what the hell?

[buoyant sedge]

Here I am again

This time dwelling on ElectionFunding_Passed

just 5 mentions tho

that can't be it

BaseGame.Bill_Turn01_CampaignFinance_Signed?

Oh hell yeah

113 mentions

the fuck

Idk

I probably misudnerstand this

Yeah I must, looks to be related to the Circas' situation

that just kinda raises Monica's opinion idk

Just as a side note, minorbug's research is very good

didnt focus on family + signed CFB + didnt kick out Leste

Nothing

BaseGame.Bill_Turn01_CampaignFinance_Signed

searched through it

could not find that decision for PO

let's think

BaseGame.Turn07_Results_Focus_Campaign

Hell yeah

103 mentions

I could not fidn naything about socialist manifesto reducing it tho

wtf

"it" as in PO

[timber warren]

I believe the info was published as early as xmas by another code diver

[buoyant sedge]

It's more so

I was digging myself looking for Focus_Campaign

what does it do

just found this randomly

decided to show

oh wait

Well I kinda said it, but not directly, I wonder what Festival_Force is

I'd assume it's kicking out Leste, and not letting Monica speak

idik

[buoyant sedge]

I'll just copy and paste this again so it's easier to find

Lachaven - +3 PW, -2 PO, -1 BO.

Holsord - +2 PW, +1 PO.

Deyr - +1 PW, +2 PO, +1 BO.

I just wish PW had more opportunities to be spent

let me think..

On an autocrat run:
I start with some PW.

I can invest into Armadine.

(Tusk's bribe happens).

I can pay for Serge. Always a good way to spend PW.

I can pay to Alphonso Foundation (+2 PW). but that would mean I have to start rich and buy only 1 000 stocks in Armadine, since I'm not skipping Serge if I can. But that's pointless, since I might as well start poor for a net +2 of PO and net +2 of BO.

I get armadine returns.

I can buy Vineyard/FC Anrica.

I get a return from either.

I can gain money from insider trading, I'm nationalizing tho.

I can send Franc to HSU. Which I will, likely.

I can donate 1 PW to Women's league.

I'm only considering starting in Holsord to both pay for Franc's education and donate 2 PW to women's league.

[buoyant sedge]

1 Independent if you lobbied 4 PW.
2 USP Conservative if you lobbied 4 PW and didn't let Monica speak at Benfi.
4 USP Reformist from Clavin.
2 from USP Group A if you didn't take down Soll's portrait, and lobbied 4 PW.
1 from USP group B if you kept Oligarchs content.
4 from NFP if you convinced Kibener.
1 PFJP Reformist if you reduced threshold and all that stuff.
1 PFJP Reformist if you removed MoH immunity.
1 PFJP Reformist if you set a 2 term limit and weakened veto.
1 from PFJP Undecided if you lobbied 4 PW.
Total of 18. So a little overkill.

[buoyant sedge]

I've made this channel into my own notebook for suzerain-related stuff. Don't mind me.

[buoyant sedge]

I've unlocked Shayrin's database. As of now, I'm dead serious, I'll only use this channel when I want to monologue about Suzerain related stuff (usually when brainstorming my runs, like you see above) and double checking the database if it all aligns.

[buoyant sedge]

BaseGame.Reform_PresiPower_Strong_RelocationToRural = true

BaseGame.EconomyDirection_Scale

BaseGame.Reform_PresiPower_Default_RuralEducationInstitutes

[buoyant sedge]

I've technically completed and posted the guide already, but I'm double-guessing the plan I chose. To put it simply, Yugoslavia strat is kind of useless, and if possible, I'd prefer to maintain a self-reliant economy.

conomy:
History degree.
7 GB - Start.
No ERP.
6 GB - L-1 Railway.
5 GB - Tourism Act.
4 GB - Choose SSC.
3 GB - Gasom Co-Investment.
2 GB - GREEN.
EPA at 49%.
-10 GB - Budget Meeting - Fund All.
-11 GB - WRA.
-13 GB - Lorren RI.
Late L-1 Railway.
-8 GB Taxes - Increase All Taxes.
TRADE WAR CHECK Passed.
-9 GB - New Crop Research.
-7 GB - ATO Aid.
Keep Relaxed Immigration.
-8 GB - Agnolia Trade.
-6 GB - Wehlen Alliance.
Modernise the Navy.
-8 GB - Sarna Agricultural Zone.
-9 GB - CBRA.
-10 GB - Choose SSC.
-7 GB - Gasom Shares (2/3 shares).
-11 GB - Nationalize Both.
-12 GB - Decrees - REI, Bank, FTCC.
Socialist Manifesto.
-13 GB - Bergia Centralization.
24 Malenyevist points.
-12 GB - Valgsland Island.
-10 GB - Valgsland Alliance.
-12 GB - WLA.
-11 GB - Less Smoke Bill.
Healthcare PO.
10 PO.
Arcasian MIC.
-10 GB - Contanan Agricultural Aid.
14 ED.
-8 GB - Medium Surplus.
-9 GB - Lespian Tariffs.
DEBT CRISIS CHECK Happens.
-10 GB - CFFA.
-9 GB - Alcohol Tax.
-7 GB - Luxury Tax.
-9 GB - Fund RY.
-8 GB - Tax Efficient Economy.
-6 GB - Print Money.
21 ED.

The few improvements I want is, modernise Air to do Valken's Blitz instead of Navy, do Relocate instead of Bank for more Sarna synergy, skip first aid. Skip funding RY too, since it's a Sollist first, ideally.

History degree.
7 GB - Start.
No ERP.
6 GB - L-1 Railway.
5 GB - Tourism Act.
4 GB - Choose SSC.
3 GB - Gasom Co-Investment.
2 GB - GREEN.
EPA at 49%.
-10 GB - Budget Meeting - Fund All.
-11 GB - WRA.
-13 GB - Lorren RI.
Late L-1 Railway.
-8 GB Taxes - Increase All Taxes.
TRADE WAR CHECK Passed.
-9 GB - New Crop Research.
Keep Relaxed Immigration.
-10 GB - Agnolia Trade.
-8 GB - Wehlen Alliance.
Modernise the Air Force.
-10 GB - Sarna Agricultural Zone.
-11 GB - CBRA.
-12 GB - Choose SSC.
-9 GB - Gasom Shares (2/3 shares).
-13 GB - Nationalize Both.
-12 GB - Decrees - REI, VAT, FTCC.
Neo-Sollist Manifesto.
-13 GB - Bergia Centralization.
24 Malenyevist points.
-12 GB - Valgsland Island.
-10 GB - Valgsland Alliance.
-12 GB - WLA.
-11 GB - Less Smoke Bill.
Healthcare PO.
10 PO.
-10 GB - Contanan Agricultural Aid.
14 ED.
-8 GB - Medium Surplus.
-9 GB - Lespian Tariffs.
DEBT CRISIS CHECK Happens.
-10 GB - CFFA.
-9 GB - Alcohol Tax.
-7 GB - Luxury Tax.
-6 GB - Tax Efficient Economy.
??

I'm not skipping L-1 due to Gus' personal investments. Or... maybe I do... and roleplay becoming a MoH?

Maybe no GREEN for solo investment? But that means no +2 ED from Valgen.

Skip WRA for... something...?

Maybe not nationalize both? But eh, malenyevist points then.

But if I'm skipping WRA< then signing WLa makes no fucking sense in a roleplay-ish sense

Or just fuck it, Trade War here i come.

History degree.
7 GB - Start.
5 GB - Business Bailouts.
4 GB - L-1 Railway.
3 GB - Tourism Act.
2 GB - Choose SSC.
0 GB - Gasom Solo Investment.
-1 GB - GREEN.
EPA at 49%.
-13 GB - Budget Meeting - Fund All.
-14 GB - WRA.
-16 GB - Lorren RI.
-17 GB - L-1 Railway.
-12 GB Taxes - Increase All Taxes.
TRADE WAR CHECK.
-13 GB - New Crop Research.
-16 GB - Trade War.
Keep Relaxed Immigration.
-17 GB - Agnolia Trade.
-15 GB - Wehlen Alliance.
Modernise the Air Force.
-17 GB - Sarna Agricultural Zone.
-18 GB - CBRA.
-19 GB - Choose SSC.
-16 GB - Gasom Shares (1/3 shares).
-15 GB - CBRA Refund.
-19 GB - Nationalize Both Fully.
-18 GB - Bailout Rebute.
-17 GB - Decrees - REI, VAT, FTCC.
Neo-Sollist Manifesto.
-18 GB - Bergia Centralization.
-16 GB - Gasom Returns.
X Malenyevist points.
-15 GB - Valgsland Island.
-13 GB - Valgsland Alliance.
-15 GB - WLA.
-14 GB - Less Smoke Bill.
-13 GB - Healthcare Surplus.
10 PO.
-12 GB - Contanan Agricultural Aid.
14 ED.
-8 GB - Large Surplus?
-9 GB - Lespian Tariffs.
DEBT CRISIS CHECK Happens.
-10 GB - CFFA.
-9 GB - Alcohol Tax.
-7 GB - Luxury Tax.
-6 GB - Tax Efficient Economy.

[buoyant sedge]

Ignoring the one above.

I'm thinking of this Post-Sollist Dictator.

(Again).

I think Lespia alliance for ATO Aid would be great.

In general allying a major power just to get free industry would be nice

Let's think

Constitution vote:
1 Independent if you lobbied 4 PW.
2 USP Conservative if you lobbied 4 PW and didn't let Monica speak at Benfi.
4 USP Reformist from Clavin.
2 from USP Group A if you didn't take down Soll's portrait, and lobbied 4 PW/allied the Oligarchs.
2 from USP group B if you allied the Oligarchs.
4 from NFP if you convinced Kibener.
1 PFJP Reformist if you removed MoH immunity.
1 from PFJP Undecided if you allied the Oligarchs.
Total of 17.

Personal Wealth:
3 PW - Lachaven.
0 PW - Armadine.
2 PW - Tusk Bribe.
0 PW - Serge Donate.
6 PW - Armadine Returns.
4 PW - FC Anrica.
5 PW - Post-Kibener Meeting.
1 PW - Lobbying.
0 PW - Franc sent to HSU.
1 PW - Post-Constitution Meeting.
0 PW - Women's League.

Economy Degree.
7 GB - Start.
6 GB - Start L-1 Railway.
4 GB - Business Bailouts.
Choose Taurus.
3 GB - Tourism Act.
1 GB - Gasom Solo Investment.
0 GB - GREEN.
EPA at 49%.
-12 GB - Budget Meeting.
-13 GB - WRA.
-15 GB - Lorren RI.
Late L-1.
-10 GB Taxes - Increase Taxes.
-8 GB - Privatize Education.
TRADE WAR CHECK Passed.
-9 GB - New Crop Research.
No Foreign Aid.
Agnolia Alliance.
-11 GB - Benfi Airport.
-12 GB - CBRA.
-10 GB - Healthcare Privatization.
-12 GB - Choose Taurus.
-9 GB - Gasom Shares.
-11 GB - Nationalize 3 Shares.
-10 GB - Rebute.
-8 GB - Gasom Divestments.
Decrees - TV Council, De-Sollinsation, FTCC.
Neo-Sollist Manifesto.
-9 GB - Bergia Centralization.
-7 GB - Lespia Alliance.
-6 GB - Less Smoke Bill.
Healthcare ED.
X PO.
Arcasian MIC.
-8 GB - WLA.
X ED.
-6 GB - Medium Surplus.
-7 GB - Valgish Tariffs.
DEBT CRISIS CHECK Happens.
-8 GB - CFFA.
-7 GB - Alcohol Tax.
-5 GB - Luxury Tax.
-4 GB - Tax Efficient Economy.
X ED.

Doesn't that make more sense?

I would go for a solo war despite allying Agnolia and Lespia, but WITHOUT calling in my allies.

Alternatively just Lespia.

Like, recognise Helijland as Agnolian but without allying.

I'm also considering a WRA veto.

For capitalist points mostly.

Or veto WRA and use Underhall for both.

wait, fuck, since I'm not addressing the delay, I'd need to veto GREEN too.

Eh.

Also not signing WRA doesn't fit my paternal autocrat idea.

I'm supposed to be Paternal after all.

[buoyant sedge]

Constitution vote:
1 Independent if you lobbied 4 PW.
2 USP Conservative if you lobbied 4 PW and didn't let Monica speak at Benfi.
4 USP Reformist from Clavin.
2 from USP Group A if you didn't take down Soll's portrait, and lobbied 4 PW/allied the Oligarchs.
2 from USP group B if you allied the Oligarchs.
4 from NFP if you convinced Kibener.
1 PFJP Reformist if you removed MoH immunity.
1 from PFJP Undecided if you allied the Oligarchs.
Total of 17.

Personal Wealth:
3 PW - Lachaven.
0 PW - Armadine.
2 PW - Tusk Bribe.
0 PW - Serge Donate.
6 PW - Armadine Returns.
4 PW - FC Anrica.
5 PW - Post-Kibener Meeting.
1 PW - Lobbying.
0 PW - Franc sent to HSU.
1 PW - Post-Constitution Meeting.
0 PW - Women's League.

Economy Degree.
7 GB - Start.
6 GB - Start L-1 Railway.
5 GB - Choose SSC.
4 GB - Tourism Act.
2 GB - Gasom Investment.
1 GB - GREEN.
EPA at 49%.
-11 GB - Budget Meeting.
-12 GB - WRA.
-14 GB - Lorren RI.
-15 GB - L-1 Construction Issues.
-10 GB Taxes - Increase Taxes.
-8 GB - Privatize Education.
TRADE WAR CHECK Passed.
-9 GB - New Crop Research.
-10 GB - Agnolia Trade.
-8 GB - Wehlen Trade.
-10 GB - Morna Port.
-11 GB - CBRA.
-9 GB - Healthcare Privatization.
-10 GB - Choose SSC.
-7 GB - Gasom Shares (1/3).
-9 GB - Nationalize Bergia Steel.
-7 GB - Gasom Divestments.
-5 GB - Decrees - VAT, De-Sollinisation, FTCC.
Neo-Sollist Manifesto.
-6 GB - Bergia Centralization.
-4 GB - Valgsland Trade.
-6 GB - WLA.
-5 GB - Less Smoke Bill.
Healthcare ED.
6 PO.
-7 GB - Military Industry Expansion.
14 ED.
-5 GB - Medium Surplus.
DEBT CRISIS CHECK Happens.
-6 GB - CFFA.
-5 GB - Alcohol Tax.
-3 GB - Luxury Tax.
-2 GB - Tax Efficient Economy.
X ED?

This, with a solo war, is a good run overall. I'm just questioning if a Paternal Autocrat would cause a Bludish Uprising and then sign the Security Act, or do I veto RHB and avoid the Uprising?

The problem of Immediate BFF Threat: Persists stays though.

Yeah idk I'll ask reddit I guess.

Moving onto Sollist-Reformist again.

Personal Wealth:
1 PW - Deyr.
0 PW - Armadine.
2 PW - Tusk Bribe.
0 PW - Serge Donate.
2 PW - Armadine Returns.
1 PW - Wineyard.
2 PW - Post-Garaci Meeting.
0 PW - Lobbying.
Franc sent to HSU.
1 PW - Presidential Salary.
0 PW - Women's League.

Economy:
Economy Degree.
7 GB - Start.
6 GB - L-1 Railway.
No ERP.
5 GB - Tourism Act.
4 GB - Choose SSC.
3 GB - Gasom Co-Investment.
2 GB - GREEN.
EPA at 49%.
-10 GB - Budget Meeting - Fund All.
-11 GB - WRA.
-13 GB - Lorren RI.
Late L-1 Railway.
-8 GB Taxes - Increase All Taxes.
TRADE WAR CHECK.
-9 GB - New Crop Research.
No Foreign Aid.
Keep Relaxed Immigration.
-10 GB - Agnolia Trade.
-8 GB - Wehlen Trade.
Expand the Air Force.
-10 GB - Sarna Agricultural Zone.
-11 GB - CBRA.
-12 GB - Choose SSC.
-9 GB - Gasom Shares (1/3 shares).
-11 GB - Nationalize HOS.
-10 GB - Decrees - VAT, REI, FTCC.
Socialist Manifesto.
-11 GB - Bergia Centralization.
24 Malenyevist Points.
-10 GB - Valgsland Island.
-8 GB - Valgsland Alliance.
Veto Less Smoke Bill.
Healthcare ED.
23 PO.
-7 GB - Contanan Agricultural Aid.
16 ED.
-5 GB - Medium Surplus.
-7 GB - WLA.
-7 GB - Lespian Tariffs + Smoking Tax Override.
DEBT CRISIS CHECK Happens.
-8 GB - CFFA.
Veto Alcohol Tax.
Veto Luxury Tax.
-4 GB - Tax Efficient Economy + Veto Overrides.
17 ED.

I will win dig in and defend into Thornborugh, I am worried about ED though.

[buoyant sedge]

Unironically I think I’ll try not trading with Agnolia and taking the healthcare surplus to nationalize HOS and BS. Maybe just majority of one to avoid the Oligarchs fleeing and Gus leaving my cabinet.

[buoyant sedge]

Hm. I'm at 16 ED. With Unrest synergy, up to 17. With delayed WLA, I'm at 18. With Bergia Steel nationalized, I'm up to 19 ED. Now to just replace VAT with whatever free decree I can. Hell yeah, large surplus here I come.

But wait, that means maintained debt. Eeeh...?

[buoyant sedge]

To the fans of my old Sollist run, I have a question. Just for context, this is the old compass and summary of my run.

I've made a new run, a pretty damn good I'd say. Minmaxed into Large Surplus, all ministeries funded, L-1 built, war won, etc.

There's a bunch of things left to player's discretion. You can do either ACP or SSP, your choice who you prioritise. You can do Valken's Blitz, or change a bunch of decisions to do solo war instead. You should even be able to do Sarna or Morna, maybe even Conriat, depends what you prefer (although second CSP Aid will still be mandatory, the +1 GB and +1 Gruni ED is too good to pass up on).

But now the question is, just update my old Sollist run with this, or make a completely new guide, call it version 2.0 or some shit?

If you don't have an opinion, I'll do a new one and call it version 2.0. I'd like to make it into my new "main" one and leave a lot of choice to the player, and not have it be very rigid "do my exact steps or fuck off".

[buoyant sedge]

I have to check the effects of the refugee situation in the prologue. As in, escort or let slip through.

[buoyant sedge]

I have to check what benefits does each security measure give.

[buoyant sedge]

I have to re-check if EPA at 49%/Repeal has the same impact on economic direction.