general

[plain basalt]

not rly .. i dont think so ... u can to so many diffrent thinks .... u can use docker and if u wonna u can handle with one rpi 4 or rpi 5 30 diffrent services

is use proxmox with docker since more then 3 years on my rpi 4

wireguard vpn , webservers , sql databases , dns blocker = pi-hole ... and many more services

[terse dirge]

It's fine for docker but not fine for proxmox if you're trying to do something other than running 2 VMs with Linux

[plain basalt]

u dont use vms very often on proxmox u use LXD

[terse dirge]

The arm architecture kinda sucks

[dusky jacinth]

And if i wanna play Mario kart on my promox servers running 2 Linux distros while VPN proxd all across the globe then what

I wanna play Mario kart but I can’t let the gov know

Then what

[plain basalt]

if u wonna gamining , u use a other sdcard with a spezial gaming software 🙂

ok then show me on a 4 core intel i3 3x00 u can run 8 vms 🙂 with vpn gaming and so on .. its not posible but its cost 400 dollars and not 50 dollars 🙂

[dusky jacinth]

I was kidding lol

I have a windows machine for gaming

[plain basalt]

ok , i dont undersdood that joke ( my fold) .. but u can emulate old games on the rpi as well ... with 60 fps ... 🙂 for example with the OS "retropi" u only has to chance the 10 dollar sdcard

[dusky jacinth]

Me and my dad built a rpi to emulate old snes and sega systems

When I was like 14

[plain basalt]

and for example my pc its in a other room then my big tv ... and i dont take my pc for fun games from room a to room B with all the cables and so on

[plain basalt]

thats cool

[stone edge]

goddamn gobuster takes some time

[plain basalt]

not that mutch 🤔

[stone edge]

enumerating for vhosts

[plain basalt]

ok 😄

[worthy cargo]

For that I use ffuf with Host header

[stone edge]

using top million wordlist

[worthy cargo]

fuzz that

[plain basalt]

enumerating use time 😄

[compact wave]

Hi

[stone edge]

yuh im just going through the course as it comes havent got into fuzz yet

[worthy cargo]

choice of wordlist can also make a diff

I always start with common stuff first, if not found, then larger wordlists

[stone edge]

true firce-hostlist went quick but i forgot to put the stmp in my /etc/hosts

[worthy cargo]

should combine all wordlists in seclits in each section into a monster mother of all lists

[plain basalt]

htb use allways the same list ? 🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔 u dont need a other

[worthy cargo]

Sometimes even after a few wordlists you still don't find anything

it can be tedious

[stone edge]

yep gotta take our time

i realized that once i was rushing and missing small steps

[frail turtle]

for some types they have combined lists

i think

for example the subdomain lists have a combined version that includes all of them

[stone edge]

combined_subdomains

[thick forge]

[stone edge]

just did the enumerating for no response is crazy lol

[tiny canyon]

they followed my digital footprint and fired me 🤦

[plain basalt]

did anyone use his gpu for cracking ? i have the problem ,i cant use my gpu in my parrot Vm ... maybe i have the wrong hypervisor ?!

[worthy cargo]

GPU is in use by host system

you can't make the vm use it

you need to look up pci passthru and get another card for the vm

or just crack on your host machine

I just crack on my host machine

[stone edge]

okay now idk why this wont show anything on screen

[plain basalt]

it its possible! i know that! u can share it

[meager kernel]

3d graphics acceleration cannot work?

Its usually an option in VMware

[worthy cargo]

That's basic 3d software acceleration

afaik

[meager kernel]

Fair enough

[plain basalt]

i think its work only with nvidia , with amd u have to use spezial configs and driver ..

[terse dirge]

Hallo

[plain basalt]

good morning

[chrome tree]

Just crack on host. Easier and no need for extra hardware. Best thing(for a vm) would be a passthru but as Eggzy said that works better with a second GPU in the system

[stone edge]

anyone able to assist or guide a quick tip.. i followed the tutorial for this one and still nothing not sure why no domains show up at all

[plain basalt]

2 gpus its not the big deal , but to connect one of them to the vms .. its the problem i have , there a many instructions /Tutorials online but no one works for me

[chrome tree]

That's why crack on host. Only difference between a linux and windows host is .exe. I use both john and hashcat easily on my windows system. without issue

[plain basalt]

i have 1x nvida gtx 1060 and one amd rx 6700xt

[worthy cargo]

I had two gpu, nvidia, but my system put them both in the same iommu group. I couldn't do pci passthru for that reason

[plain basalt]

ok thats a point but i have seen many trustfull videos where u can make ur gpu happent for 95% of power in the vms .

[chrome tree]

Go for it if you want to learn, but for times sake and how intensive material can be (like in academy) it is it's better to take the path of least resistance.

[plain basalt]

the question is ... has anybody a hypervisior and can share his gpu ? and when what kind of gpu and what hypervisor ...

[terse dirge]

https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/PCI_Passthrough

[plain basalt]

becourse we all know .. with cpu cracking u need 30 minutes for a PW and with gpu u need 30 sec 😄

[plain basalt]

i dont use proxmox on my main pc .. but thx for the link

[stone edge]

this vhost enumeration aint working

gonna try again

my etchosts had 2 ip ithdomain and one with port might be messing it

just doesn't wanna list anything

[alpine pumice]

well yeah, your hosts file shouldn't contain any ports

[plain basalt]

what time do u guys have ?

[alpine pumice]

7:13pm

[plain basalt]

4.13 am 😄

[alpine pumice]

your clock is way off

[plain basalt]

just a other time zone 😄

[stone edge]

yea i fixed it still same issue

might have to reset

[plain basalt]

sometimes u have to reset the machine ..

thats rly a big diffrent bettween tryhackmy .. there u have allways a single target vm

[stone edge]

im an idiot nvm

[flint copper]

10:17pm

[stone edge]

10:17

[flint copper]

can't spell best without EST

[stone edge]

i put the ip in the dirb instead of the cleartext..

[plain basalt]

if u found ur misstake u dont are an idiot

[stone edge]

u da man

[flint copper]

💪🏻

[plain basalt]

pm ? ?

[stone edge]

pm

9/10/25

[plain basalt]

where u from ?

kba ?

kuba

[stone edge]

NYC

[plain basalt]

ahh k make sense

[stone edge]

yo soy idiota

jajaja

[plain basalt]

then its supernuts from the west site 😄

[alpine pumice]

English only please

[plain basalt]

is olles englüsch 😄

[stone edge]

damn today was a sad day

[alpine pumice]

#rules

[plain basalt]

whats ur problem ? im not a native speaker ! i have some mistakes

[stone edge]

any one listen to soad

[alpine pumice]

Well, I told R4ST4B4J4 English only, then you replied to me without using English so I pointed you to the rules. What's the issue?

[stone edge]

;_;

[plain basalt]

2 of 3 words was englich lol if u dont know ur own languare ..its ot my fould

[flint copper]

where you from @plain basalt

[flint copper]

is this dutch?

[alpine pumice]

What you said is not English

[stone edge]

looks german

[plain basalt]

becourse im not a native! ... 🙂

[civic lance]

what yall think of npm supply chain attack?!

[flint copper]

cringe

i could've done it better

[dusky jacinth]

womp womp

^

[civic lance]

But ur a script kiddie

[dusky jacinth]

yikes

[flint copper]

and ur a noob

wym

i don't do labs my man

[dusky jacinth]

bro brought up the rank

[heady sage]

Sit down

[civic lance]

Imma stand

[flint copper]

aye i'm chill like that

[plain basalt]

i would like to see u written in spanish or frence or in a other language 🙂 and then we looking how many mistakes you make

[heady sage]

You really should sit this one out. You have no idea what you are talking about

[stone edge]

lmao what is going on

[alpine pumice]

I follow the rules so no

[plain basalt]

im follow the rules too ..

[civic lance]

What ur on about……

[stone edge]

shhhh

[dusky jacinth]

WHY IT SO TOXIC RN

[stone edge]

so pretty much cst are confirming if a websites legit or not

[flint copper]

ight ima dip, back to talking to my hellotalk girls 😩

[plain basalt]

<--- ^^^^ nobody its toxic ^^^^ no worry

[stone edge]

vinvicta put me on whats hellotalk

[plain basalt]

its all fine .. just a conversation

[dusky jacinth]

Why you getting heated over the rules then my man

Its just the rules

[stone edge]

u can spot mitm by bad ct log?

[plain basalt]

i dont know what u meen ? i sad that i follow the rule

[dusky jacinth]

I don't have the brain capacity to decipher this any longer

good night gamers and non gamers

[stone edge]

night brotha

[plain basalt]

gn8 and cya

[stone edge]

chrome doesnt show certificates

[plain basalt]

chrome ? u use discord in a browser ?

[stone edge]

nvm and yes i do

[plain basalt]

and rly chrome ? .. pls use firefox

[stone edge]

usually use firefox but chrome i have on here for book marjks

[plain basalt]

ah ok 👍

[stone edge]

browser best way for me

[plain basalt]

bevor u go sleep i have one quesation .. its ok ?

[stone edge]

whats up

[plain basalt]

it its true that one beer in a Pub cost 20 dollars in nyc ?

[stone edge]

depends where you go , could be an exxageration but honestly you could spend close to that on mixed drinks

i spent 15$ on a bay breeze

[plain basalt]

idk what a bay breeze is

[stone edge]

buddies racked up my tab bc theyre so sugary you can just down it

its white girl malibu mixed with pineapple, cranberry juice

[plain basalt]

pls wrote in the hole form 😄 i dont know all ur shot forms at all ..

[stone edge]

spend $20 at a store you can have that for like everyday of the week

which part

bc = because

[plain basalt]

im not intterested in mixed drinks .. im a beer guy .. but what u have in the US its not rly a Beer in my oppinion 🤣

[stone edge]

yeah thats just one mixed drink, if im getting beer at the bar itll be a corona, or miller lite or an IPA (rarely)

i prefer jack n coke or just straight jose cuervo shots

[plain basalt]

but i wonna travel and visit nc next year and if i have to sell 20 dollars for " 1 us beer" and i know that taste its terrible .. then maybe i fligh i a other country -D

[stone edge]

hahaha

japan had good prices and you can drink in public

[plain basalt]

japan its not rly foreigner friendly ..

thailand , vietnam are much more better

u can drink in the HOLE Europe the hole day 😄 with the best drinks u ever get 😄

[stone edge]

hmm im not sure, i had nice public encounters in japan but i guess its subjective to the individuals there like anywhere

vietnam and thailand look sick

[plain basalt]

but im sure .. im from europe 😄

[stone edge]

thats fire ive never been

thinking about amsterdam for my europe trip

[plain basalt]

and i allways visit thailand .... its a great country

[stone edge]

*tips fedora

[plain basalt]

amsterdamm hasa higher reputation than in reality

its cool but its one of many big cities in europe ...

what i meen is , amsterdamm is not cooler then berlin or madrid or porta or helsinki or hamburg and so on

prag its very cool ... or budapest ...

london its boring ...

in my oppinion

[stone edge]

budapest i wanna see and berlin

i wanna go to goth fest in germany

[plain basalt]

in Leipzig ???

[stone edge]

yea'

[plain basalt]

the wave gothig ?

nice 😄 call me , im living in Leipzig 😄

if u wonna u can sleep her in my guest room for free 🙂

i love the "WGT"

but its amazing that u know it ...

[stone edge]

Yes sir you already know im with it

i never been but my dad has when he was on tour with korn

[plain basalt]

korn its not rly the kind of music there are playing there ....

i like korn but that doesn't fit with the wgt

[stone edge]

i think this was when they were scheduled to go but it got cancelled

been like 5 years

you like system of a down?

so anytime i work with vhosts i have to obviously know it first then put in hosts

[gaunt gale]

hi guys

I am doing a good amount of HTB Academy each day now

I'm making more progress

I notice my focus on it getting better or worse depending on how I eat

so I guess diet is everything

and health is everything

gonna avoid a food tomorrow that I had today and yesterday

had this artificial dairy free cheese in my egg whites and it didn't help

[stone edge]

dude thats facts

do you get lethargic

[frail turtle]

yes this is actually fact.

[gaunt gale]

also a vegan impossible sandwich where I estimated calories for

it was small but I'm not having it again

gonna stick with homemade

as much as possible

ya

[stone edge]

green machine naked smoothie got me right today

[gaunt gale]

I don't even have smoothies

[frail turtle]

I did tell you a long time ago that diet really impacts your mental health and everything else, you quit keto tho I never recommend keto because Vegetables are literally toxic; instead i recommend the alternative which is carnivore

[gaunt gale]

I'm not that extreme

[frail turtle]

but I've gotten death threats about it which is why i never suggest it

[gaunt gale]

for some people it works

I don't think death threats are appropriate

those people giving you those threats are asshole

you have free speech

[stone edge]

a lot isnt appropriate sadly lunatics are everywqhere

just look at today...

[gaunt gale]

ya true

[stone edge]

i dont wanna say too much but ifykyk

[gaunt gale]

ya ok

I do know

[frail turtle]

today a political commentator was shot and killed

so you know people are bound to do anything crazy

[gaunt gale]

ya someone tried to shoot the president then political commentators get killed. there's no much anger over political BS (from both parties)

like get over it

if you don't agree with someone that doesn't give you the right to commit violence upon them

[stone edge]

so true.. so sad man and it was televised! all over tiktok kids are probably getting like scarred man

[frail turtle]

Well you know when people think that the entire world hates them, they begin to resort to those extremes.

I remember a guy in high school who was like that.

[gaunt gale]

but that's mental illness

the world doesn't care about you or your shit

everyone is concerned with themselves

better for you to be the one to think about other people rather than expect people to be all about you

you get what I'm sayin?

schools don't teach this (at least mine didn't) but they should

instead, schools teach kids they get a free pass so long as they are appropriate for school or whatever

in fact, when I was in school they absolutely had policies the encouraged certain selfish behavior so long as it was appropriate for school

[frail turtle]

I do; though I think people don't seem to understand the idea behind understanding and acceptance. Like I have no problem understanding people, but it doesnt mean I accept everything. A lot of people think that understanding = acceptance, but that's never the case.

[gaunt gale]

ok

so like I have thought that no one cares about me or whatever or that people don't like me

ok

so I change my behavior

which actually is something they teach in schools

now sometimes the world can be judgmental or mistreat certain people

but that's less common than you think

[vivid flower]

A lot of the people preaching tolerance only care about being accepted not the other way around

[gaunt gale]

I mean also you shouldn't be too obsessed with what other people think

[gaunt gale]

ya that's true I mean in some instances, there are people who are genuinely misjudged by majority of other people

I think

but that's not an excuse to commit violence

[vivid flower]

They are in fact very intolerant of others even amongst their own. I do not see the current cultural zeitgeist ending in anything other than violence

[frail turtle]

You know who really explores this topic in depth? There was a russian .....philosopher I think? his name was Dotoevsky was really popular who wrote his teachings/ideas in the form of novels

[gaunt gale]

cool ok

[gaunt gale]

I'll look that up

thank you sounds informative

[frail turtle]

he was fighting the proponent of Nihilism at the time (Nietzche)

[flint copper]

that guy is great

[gaunt gale]

nihilists in my view have a "idgaf" mentality that I don't agree with

to me its a loser mentality

[vivid flower]

I am no Christian, either. All these kind hearted white boomer christians are the buffer zone keeping back all the indignation building up

[gaunt gale]

see, I am not a Christian I mean I'm Jewish but I'm not super religious

but see, I believe in actually caring

[flint copper]

where ur jew tag at buddy

[vivid flower]

Yeah so you get it

[gaunt gale]

I mean, I think me making that my tag is politicized and not something I want to have as a label

[flint copper]

understandable

[vivid flower]

Nephesh chayyah

[gaunt gale]

I mean its fine if people know I'm Jewish and I want it respectful

but I don't want a discord tag for it

[flint copper]

append the -Pn flag

it'll treat the target as down

[gaunt gale]

I think honestly, everything is way too politicized

[frail turtle]

I have a friend who I was able to help bounce back from that; I helped him by suggesting things that teach him that things in life do matter, and a good way to show that is with video games where choices matter like The walking dead series from telltale games

[gaunt gale]

ya that's true

[flint copper]

it's why i stopped using twitter

[gaunt gale]

I don't know if video games owuld be my approach but I agree that this is a good direction to move in

[vivid flower]

Idk but i have a girlfriend now so i care less

[gaunt gale]

I have an Anonymous twitter account but I never use it

[flint copper]

super based

[gaunt gale]

I should probably delete it

[vivid flower]

Kek

[gaunt gale]

I have BlueSky and Twitter accounts in order to contact people who cannot be contacted otherwise

[stone edge]

ugh my ex keeps reaching out i deicded to talk back

[gaunt gale]

for meetups

[flint copper]

my ex is gonna HEAR it if she ever contacts me

[vivid flower]

I have a twitter mostly for grok

[gaunt gale]

I feel like official Discords are a better method of communication for a meetup tho

tbh

[vivid flower]

I dont post

[gaunt gale]

and more people should use those

[stone edge]

lmao i make her hear it and she keepos coming back idk why

[flint copper]

@stone edge replace your ex with hellotalk girls

[stone edge]

yes put me on what is hellotalk

[flint copper]

i get hundreds of messages per day on it

[flint copper]

it's a language exchange app

[vivid flower]

Its like chatroulette?

[flint copper]

haven't used that so i'm not sure

you just set a native language and a target language

[frail turtle]

If you know personally that the target is up; then try all the scan methods. You also have to check if there's a WAF.

[vivid flower]

Thats a cool concept

[flint copper]

and you'll talk with people who speak whatever language you set it to

[vivid flower]

Language: Hindi Target: Hebrew

[flint copper]

oh god

let me try this

[stone edge]

i will be testing since my tinder is banned

[vivid flower]

Lmaooo

[flint copper]

it's better than tinder

way better

[frail turtle]

what difficulty

[stone edge]

💖

[flint copper]

if you're into meeting foreign women

[stone edge]

oh yeah u know it

[flint copper]

you got a passport?

[alpine pumice]

#boxes

[frail turtle]

most likely no WAF.

[stone edge]

yup

[flint copper]

based

go get em chief

[stone edge]

primed and loaded

[flint copper]

im also meeting lots of cybersec people on it

[stone edge]

yeah honestly i need to meet more cybersec people lmao

[flint copper]

just put that you do cybersecurity in your bio

[stone edge]

i wish there was a dope meetup around here or event soon

[alpine pumice]

A mod would have to do it.

[flint copper]

we're in the same timezone

what area are you in

[alpine pumice]

You can DM me

[frail turtle]

but yeah the bottom line from before is when someone truly believes that the entire world hates them, they become dangerous.

some people remain solid

[flint copper]

hmmm where have i seen this before

[frail turtle]

others just break down

[stone edge]

nyc area the top 3

[flint copper]

💪🏻

i'm in NC

[stone edge]

ayy my buddy lives there

went to chapel hill

[flint copper]

NYC people are moving here like crazy

[stone edge]

good property prices?

[flint copper]

yeah

[frail turtle]

Oh hell yes even I have thought about moving to NC

[flint copper]

not for long though if yall keep pricing us out 😩

but aye take the chance while you got it

the coastal parts of the state have homes in the high 200's

[stone edge]

i had plans to go down south for investing and moving but rn family situations i gotta take care of people and get this cert so i can get remote work first

[flint copper]

i respect it

gotta do what you gotta do

[frail turtle]

If I get a remote job as a developer and get paid well I will move to a warmer place like NC and start a family over there with my GF

[flint copper]

warmer?

this place is hell in the summer

[frail turtle]

yeah im from the bronx

[flint copper]

invest in good air conditioning

[frail turtle]

oh that's alright im not stranger to hotzimola

[flint copper]

my coworker is from brooklyn

[stone edge]

ayeeeee

flatbush ave

thats where my fams from

[frail turtle]

where is that in crown heights?

[stone edge]

close probably 12 min out from there

[flint copper]

what language you picking for your profile @stone edge

[stone edge]

probably japanese or polish

[flint copper]

okay

based

for japanese you'll probably get asked if you're pretending to be a foreigner

be ready to prove you're actually american

[stone edge]

oh i got just the thing to prove it

:)

ill show them my ford f150 and pack of zyns

[silver forge]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-skate-board-skate-orangutan-cool-gif-15021178819801542115

[stone edge]

terracotta pie

[flint copper]

i'm rocking a pack of velo 9mg

peppermint

i gotta quit smoking

[stone edge]

im stuck on the geek bars

actually this one is raz

dude this hashish is amazing

[flint copper]

we banned geek bars in NC

[stone edge]

wtf lmao why

[flint copper]

be ready to let that go

😩

[stone edge]

SMH

[flint copper]

we banned a shit ton of vapes

[stone edge]

want me to mail you some? lmao

jkjk

[flint copper]

nah i quit vaping last year

picked up smoking after my ex though

[stone edge]

fuck bro how u feelin

my girl turned me into a heavy drinker so i havent drank over a month

[flint copper]

oh i'm chillin

but now i'm stuck in the cycle of smoking

[silver forge]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Unexpected/comments/1ndmha7/nothing_tastes_better_than_secure_login/

[stone edge]

dui shit made it so difficult to get my tires changed they had to keep turning on the truck

[stone edge]

only tobacco?

[flint copper]

yeah

[flint copper]

my work be like

[stone edge]

why no green

dude i think i have adhd i have to force myself to reread these pages 3 times over because my eyes keepo jumping

[flint copper]

have you ever experienced a heart rate of 200BPM

no thanks 😂😂

i've dabbled though

but won't do it again

[stone edge]

tbh no my heartrate is always like 55/140

something in that range super low

[flint copper]

my resting rate is around 70

but i have POTS so any activity can vary

[stone edge]

thats inetesteing

is that a diet thing or just like random

[flint copper]

it's more of a neurological thing

nothing wrong with the heart itself, but the body doesn't respond well to standing

[stone edge]

lightheaded too?

[flint copper]

sometimes

[stone edge]

do you eat breakfast

[flint copper]

yeah on occasion

[stone edge]

damn well that ruled out what i thought

i never eat breakfast only tea and i get lightheaded from standing up quick at work

[maiden anvil]

who saw the news about the yemen ufo

[flint copper]

sometimes it goes away completely

then some days it's back again

[stone edge]

could it be the nicotine too or na

[flint copper]

i quit vaping last year because of it

definitely wasn't that

and actually, smoking helped the symptoms in my case

[stone edge]

wow

[flint copper]

or i just stopped noticing it that much, one of the two

[stone edge]

i quit nic for 3 years after a nice pscilocybin retreat with the boys

[flint copper]

oh yeah i'd be scared shitless

[stone edge]

got back after a cute coworker pressured me

[maiden anvil]

i also just quit vaping within the last 2 weeks but i've been nic free for over a year and a half

its really hard

but everybody can do it

[flint copper]

ah man you fell for that 😩

[stone edge]

big time

lmao

when i first quit i was super angry and agitated for like a week

[flint copper]

i was agitated after the first 10 minutes

head felt like a loose screw

that's the worst part

[stone edge]

yep thats when u get the pillow and punch it for 5 minutes

then take a shower clear the mind

[flint copper]

got distracted and now i've got like 15 messages

go ahead and sign up for that app though, won't regret it

[stone edge]

will do

gotta sleep soon work at 7am so imma bust out these modules and get da app

[flint copper]

💪🏻

what path you doing bossman

[stone edge]

CPTS

i went through the fundamentals first

which was a great choice

[flint copper]

how far are you

[stone edge]

17.58%

taking my time to absorb it all

i read through, copy paste, re read everythig while doing lessons

[worthy cargo]

I want to be in DFIR.

I enjoy pentesting too

But I'm not that great at anything yet. I have the basics.

I don't know.

I do like forensics though.

hunting, detecting.

[flint copper]

Based

keep grinding bossman

[stone edge]

trying to fill in this resume to get atleast something a lil higher than helpdesk

not atm im in construction

i wouldnt mind helpdesk but i want something more advanced than pluggin in keyboards

idk i might be reaching

[solemn lichen]

What's up zumi

[rich garden]

Hello guys

[near island]

admins is there any new challenges on AI red team CTF

[plain basalt]

good morning

[scenic maple]

https://tenor.com/view/ondrejbrousil-cat-catservice-service-cattires-gif-26300271

and thats when zumi found out taking out a production server was far better

[stone edge]

https://labs.hackthebox.com/achievement/machine/2478998/394

[scenic maple]

https://labs.hackthebox.com/achievement/machine/2478998/394

[stone edge]

meow

i think imma do 1 module and 1 box a day

i gotta remember to just try admin and root for logins lol

idk what that is

hmmm

not employed in it

but i have the htb academy for education

yep sadly

lmao

I am self employed

taxes eat my butt

thats how i feel

i gotta be up in 5 hours lol

2 jobs 6 days a week and studying

[stone edge]

how do you mean give

[scenic maple]

hi zumi

[stone edge]

oh yuh i only do after work

studying the cpts material

[rapid swallow]

im so hapy

[stone edge]

lmao

very neat

[rapid swallow]

hey zumi been awhile

[stone edge]

is it bad i followed the white sheet for the meow ...

[next venture]

😼

[west venture]

What entrance?

[next venture]

for medical degrees

[west venture]

Interesting title

[next venture]

lol

[scenic maple]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-feline-meme-funny-gif-7000720352064261872

[next venture]

https://tenor.com/view/sososos-golem-clash-royale-gif-26781963

[scenic maple]

https://tenor.com/view/smirk-smirk-cat-cat-cat-meme-cat-meme-face-gif-8184387017330024184

[terse dirge]

Pocket golem!

[next venture]

😩 COC used to be good

[ornate ibex]

Clash of clans, yeah it used to be better back in those days

[next venture]

[ornate ibex]

I guess, once you are rich in the game you no longer have to battle to upgrade anymore.

[next venture]

same goes for life

[ornate ibex]

lmao true

Somehow, they included it in the game's theme

yes dirty mind

[next venture]

72?

[ornate ibex]

I guess 180

[scenic maple]

3000 min

[ornate ibex]

somewhere 1Million yrs ago?

[scenic maple]

ancient entity with unfixable backpain

[next venture]

nah you are just old

[soft fern]

Not old enough for a Cybersecurity position, 2 millennium needed

[next venture]

lmao

[flint copper]

LOL

this was hilarious, i'm stealing this

[next venture]

@scenic maple you want to say something?

[scenic maple]

no ping

[limber arch]

https://tenor.com/view/australia-kangoroo-flipped-down-under-gif-8562677137303281559

[scenic maple]

i can finally use the zed editor

why is it dead

unfunny

cancelled

[next venture]

https://tenor.com/view/i-had-aura-i-joined-the-chat-the-aura-gif-4345668962617145079

demon slayer

[soft fern]

Why is bro aura farming?

[next venture]

Dark souls 3

lol

[maiden anvil]

those games are a treasure

[soft fern]

The job must have a toxic workplace if they didn't get accepted 😕

[maiden anvil]

Bloodborne is the last one I need to beat

nice

[next venture]

https://tenor.com/view/rotating-skull-gif-24524852

bro already spent 50% of his life

Try nine sols

[scenic maple]

https://tenor.com/view/british-cop-screaming-screaming-sad-gif-1879411192175791821

no not the aura

[next venture]

https://tenor.com/view/mindy-angry-mindy-mindy-walks-away-tony-hawk's-american-wasteland-skibidi-toilet-gif-7416617547914015403

[soft fern]

At least you're 6'1, right?

[scenic maple]

why do you ask

[soft fern]

Gives more rizz+aura

[scenic maple]

[green kite]

hello children, adults and inbetweens

[scenic maple]

hello sparkling

[naive leaf]

Had onsite today with whole security team

[green kite]

how are you Golam

[naive leaf]

Went really well may actually get a long term appsec/pentesting position

Am super excited

[scenic maple]

doing well learning react

hbu

[scenic maple]

hell yeah

[naive leaf]

CISO's doing career 1 on 1s.

And company is just winning

[dusky jacinth]

That’s awesome man

Hope it goes well

[naive leaf]

Well both my managers are really happy with me

Said I've driven a lot of impact in my short time there

[scenic maple]

because thats what future appsec engineers do

[green kite]

I am good 🙂 sorry checking some datalayer issue

[naive leaf]

I found XXE -> LFI -> Forging session tokens on monday

[scenic maple]

a sr engineer at production

[naive leaf]

In our auth controller

Which is Bad™

[scenic maple]

yeah we kind of figured

[naive leaf]

Manager's like you found that in [auth controller name]??

So.

Idk this close to long term well paying security job.

Super excited

[dusky jacinth]

Worth being excited iver

You’ll have to teach me your ways oh wise one

[naive leaf]

Am always down to teach

I taught programming for 8 years

I am kinda choosy with students at this point after being burned by people who were more interested in outcomes than actual learning.

[wild oasis]

YO! Is the support team UK-based? Wondering what their biz hours are

[dusky jacinth]

I def need help with getting good at programming. It’s a skill I really wanna improve

I can’t speak to myself as a student has I hated school, but I taught myself how to teach myself and have been pretty much self taught for a while now 🤷‍♂️

But that’s off topic

Super excited for you and the chance to have that opportunity

[naive leaf]

Yeah can ping me here

Like to be clear I just want people to take responsibility for their learning

Rather than trying to put it on me

[dusky jacinth]

Super valid

[naive leaf]

Soooo many people don't want to be responsible for their own learning.

And so like "student" vs "non student" doesn't matter to me

It's about action

What are you doing

[flint copper]

💪🏻

this is based

[naive leaf]

Math/Programming

Taught both.

Loved it

And

I also wanted to put food on table

So now to security we go

[dusky jacinth]

Heck yeah

Yeah I’m studying asm and python rn

Struggling to find stuff to build so I’m gonna work outta some of these books and build some security tools I’ve got some ideas on

[naive leaf]

If you wanna do reverse engineering

[dusky jacinth]

That’s the goal

[naive leaf]

Then it's W tier

[dusky jacinth]

We’ll exploit dev

But both would be cool

[naive leaf]

Go study

Nightmare pwn

https://guyinatuxedo.github.io

This thing is S tier

Actually got my friends jobs

[dusky jacinth]

Yeah I just pulled up the page

I’ll look into it for sure

[naive leaf]

It's heavy

I haven't done it

[dusky jacinth]

Good

I need it to be heavy

[naive leaf]

I did pentesting and web stuff instead.

I'm the ctf web guy

Not the pwn guy but I've done a good amount of pwn independent of this guide

Took a friend of mine who's a cracked reverse engineer like

A year

To go through it

[dusky jacinth]

Good I’ll have something to keep me busy for a while

[naive leaf]

My recommendation is learn

• ASM
• GDB/GEF
• Ghidra

• Registers and what registers do.

[dusky jacinth]

I bought this super old book in x86 which came highly recommended

[naive leaf]

Then just go through some buffer overflow proof of concepts for some easy CTF problems

Write the exploit with the guide and understand why it works.

Also understand memory addresses

Compiled Binary security

Little vs big endian

And understand your various binary-level operations

Like xor and such.

Once you got all that then I think it makes some sense to start doing nightmare.

Oh and forgot

Learn C

If you don't know C you'll go nowhere

[dusky jacinth]

Bought an ANSI C book as wel

The classic

[sturdy thistle]

sounds like you live in germany

[green kite]

or Belgium

[limber arch]

I’m 1099 so I’ll be getting taxed 20%

Highway robbery

[green kite]

my avg tax % is 30

[limber arch]

Yeesh

I got like no write offs

I live at home and I am single with no kids

[scenic maple]

https://tenor.com/view/buzz-lightyear-gif-21327280

[naive leaf]

Okay that's a bit rambly learn the following first:

• C
• x86 ASM
• Registers
• Little vs Big Endian
• Binary level operations
• Stack functionality
• Heap functionality like Malloc and Free.
• Operating System Internals and Syscalls.
• Architecture if a compiled binary including the GOT and PLT tables, ELF file format.
• Usage of common tools for binary analysis: Checksec, Python, Pwntools, Ghidra, GDB/GEF, objdump, strings, hexdump.

Then do:

• Common binary protections including ASLR, Non-Executable Stacks, PIE, Stack Canaries.
• Stack-Based buffer overflows
• Stack Smashing
• Shellcode Injection
• Format String Exploits
• Info Leaks
• Gadgets
• Ropper, One_gadget
• Return Oriented Programming.
• Heap-Based Exploits like double-frees, use-after-frees, etc...

May have missed a few things.

Nightmare starts at the beginning of the 2nd category.

[limber arch]

Oh. Oh

Boy

[naive leaf]

You'll want to be fluent in how all of the former work.

[dusky jacinth]

Perfect

I’ve added it to my list and I’ll start creating a map out for myself

[limber arch]

I am pleasantly surprised that I actually understand some of what you sent Zard

Pwn challenges helped a bit ig

[naive leaf]

W

Yeah pwn makes you learn stuff

[limber arch]

It’s been awhile since I’ve done any

I was having a hard time getting comfortable with mediums

[warped plank]

NGL HTB pwns go crazzy, even just easies are insane to me.

[modest ruin]

go fundamental with pwn.college

anyway, is it just me or htb is kinda slow

it kept on buffering

[long forum]

When you start it looks like that, but with progress and in time, you get quality ones that really make you appreciate the "art"

[terse dirge]

Go mentioned!

[warped plank]

I know the fundamentals but HTB's easy is: Canary Leak + R2libC + only 16 bytes to work with

I don't even wanna know what insanes hold if that's the case

[long forum]

Just Pivot

[dusky jacinth]

Any starting projects? Or your rec going over PoCs are trying to replicate em?

[modest ruin]

lol, well I guess htb standard is pretty high😂

[long forum]

Total chaos😅

[warped plank]

Just 0 day the Linux Kernel, duh

Or worse: It's windows

[long forum]

Cant be

They need a windows docker image

[terse dirge]

Windows has "docker images" but it's just a container for a VM of windows

[naive leaf]

Write some substantial programs in C and ASM, learn to use GDB when debugging it.

[warped plank]

They might... for CTFs maybe, probably not active challenges

[naive leaf]

Decompile binaries and read the code

And see if you can understand it

Do some reverse engineering decompilation challenges

See what happens when you decompile stripped binaries

[terse dirge]

The closest thing to a windows docker container is a windows kubernetes worker node

[naive leaf]

Go label all the functions in a stripped binary and figure out which are important and which aren't

[dusky jacinth]

Define substantial

[naive leaf]

Use ghidra and learn ghidra that way.

[dusky jacinth]

Volume or size

[naive leaf]

I wrote doorbell firmware.

In C

[dusky jacinth]

Heard that

[long forum]

They have K8, Im not sure why they dont release windows pwn

[dusky jacinth]

Just wanna get an idea yknow

[warped plank]

Doorbells need firmware? 👀

[naive leaf]

Smart doorbells do

[warped plank]

O, never really heard of a smart doorbell

[naive leaf]

https://nightowlsp.com/products/1080p-wi-fi-smart-video-doorbell-wired-black?variant=48649322922271&country=US&currency=USD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&srsltid=AfmBOopzRk5O8BpIPa_oo7jyj0Xbn8QfuotQ-2tBmi1QkXl6ibOO2VHt3WU

Essentially it's a kind of doorbell that when someone pushes it, it rings, records sound and camera stuff, uploads it to a server where you can then look at who's at your door, and then some of them have a mic that lets you speak to whoever rang.

I wrote firmware for a non-mic doorbell

[muted olive]

https://tenor.com/bfV2T.gif

[warped plank]

Bro you couldn't solve it either,

[terse dirge]

It'd be impossible to release a windows docker image, you can't run windows specific software with helm on Linux because the kernel needs to be shared. It's like trying to use your house keys to unlock or start your car

[naive leaf]

Got a pi zero, camera, speaker, screen, etc:..

[muted olive]

But I solved Terminal

[naive leaf]

And then wrote the firmware for it.

[warped plank]

DarkCorp writeup, when?

[long forum]

Makes sense, one day Im sure a solution will be proposed

[terse dirge]

You can have a windows kubernetes worker node which isn't a windows container, it just handles the work load for windows specific helm charts or pods

[naive leaf]

Wrote socket connections to upload stuff to server

[long forum]

Want one?

One of the best machines Ive ever done

[warped plank]

I wrote one, he's been procrastinating on one for forever

[terse dirge]

Probably but it'd only work on windows

[muted olive]

As soon as I write something beyond Nmap scan output

[warped plank]

Mate, tell me at least it's the second nmap scan

[muted olive]

Nope, first one

Also I'm going to steal some of your screenshots. I'm NOT doing that whole thing again

[warped plank]

Bruh... I better get attribution, heck also attribute the team

[muted olive]

Who dat

[warped plank]

I don't have daddy issues... cos my dad ain't in my life anymore, we just meet up occasionally

[warped plank]

Mostly vader

[muted olive]

No like, wdym attribution

[terse dirge]

Just like what already exists which is windows kubernetes worker nodes 😄

[warped plank]

just a mention or something

As per google:
Attribution

the action of ascribing a work or remark to a particular author, artist, or person.

[muted olive]

oh then, definitely vader lmao

I think it took us 9 days to solve it intended

[terse dirge]

When you have the worker node set up I believe you also need to install containerd. I'm not actually sure what windows uses for its windows containers tho.

[warped plank]

A bit more cos ctrlzero did mention that one bit of the foothold was unintended, so I had to go back and do all that...

[terse dirge]

Dumbass clankers (chatgpt and whatever duck duck go uses) keep saying you don't need wsl for docker engine but you do

Shit I'm yapping about kubernetes again

[flint copper]

chatgpt is a genuine schizo

i can feed it documentation and it will still suggest a nonexistent configuration option

[terse dirge]

Apparently you can use hyper v? But I think you still need wsl regardless

So idk how it runs windows containers

[flint copper]

pretty sure hyperv requires WSL disabled

i've run into issues having the two before

i believe that was it

[terse dirge]

Nope

You need both

[flint copper]

ah

gotcha, then that was the issue i ran into

it's been a while

[terse dirge]

https://github.com/MicrosoftDocs/WSL/issues/899

I think kubernetes still uses containerd even on windows.

Because you don't need docker for running kubernetes, you just need containerd

[tiny canyon]

@warped plank take me away, to the land where oranges dance and frolic and the gcs remain active

[hoary nebula]

Good morning vietnam

[naive leaf]

https://security.apple.com/blog/memory-integrity-enforcement/

Insane work by apple

Like actually

[warped plank]

Meanwhile Rust...

[vast mango]

How can u guys send stickers??

[native plume]

I'm not sure but probably you need embed permissions for that, read the pins

[warped plank]

#general message

[vast mango]

Damn, i guess this will take long

[native plume]

Don't give up though 💪

[vast mango]

Ok, ill give my best

But the HTML is a little hard from the HTB website

[warped plank]

WDYM? You're not supposed to try and exploit the website, and usually you're not going to be exploiting HTML itself.

[scenic maple]

html 0 day goes so hard

also if you think you are able

https://hackerone.com/hack_the_box

[native plume]

Imagine being able to disclose a critical vulnerability but still not being able to root an easy machine

I'm making fun of myself chat

[warped plank]

Those are two very different things, a critical vulnerability can be just: sqli command while rooting an easy machine requires chaining exploits, some pivoting knowledge, some privilege escalation knowledge

[native plume]

You're right it might simple ones in production sometimes but it's so funny to think of it this way lol

[warped plank]

https://tenor.com/view/chat-bed-goodnight-ateez-seonghwa-gif-10782478959648983495

[terse dirge]

Nuh uh

[native plume]

Still finding it would be a pain

[warped plank]

sqlmap --risk 3 --level 5

[native plume]

--dump flags just to get all those flags too

[terse dirge]

Don't forget to load every tamper script and increase the threads to 10

[half shuttle]

just found a killer driver that is not on HVCI blocklist or loldrivers, Reversed it and wrote the POC and killed 7 EDRs without any problems
here is the POC and the article if anyone is interested:
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/jehadabudagga_cybersecurity-apt-byovd-activity-7371812528449982464-tENE

[timid axle]

Why going for that when admin creds is just admin:admin

[warped plank]

Because you get more money from something that looks complicated

[timid axle]

Wait you guys get paid?

[barren oyster]

Hi, first time on this channel. I'm starting my journey

[warped plank]

https://tenor.com/view/its-still-not-too-late-to-run-violet-plunkett-gregory-munchnik-david-krumholtz-mom-gif-19843660

[mellow bane]

it's a cold rainy day today, dang i wanna sleep

[terse dirge]

Make tomato soup and grilled cheese instead

[timid axle]

In the past year

[fair tree]

umm, how to use /feedback?

that's not a command in the bot

nor is it a channel

oh it is not dm feedback my bad, you have to open bot-commands

[green kite]

you can do it in any channel @fair tree 🙂 but yah, should be in server

👋

[versed lynx]

hello

[green kite]

how are ya?

[versed lynx]

good and you?

[green kite]

all good, thank you

[versed lynx]

welcome

[hoary nebula]

bro said welcome

[pastel moss]

Hi i have a seminar on the topic of AI and Cybersecurity.
Can anyone gimme some ideas or point me to areas where i can find em?
I'm thinking about presenting the incapabilities of AI and the importance of Cybersecurity...

[hoary nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/vikings-ac-vikings-ac-gif-3730341785245728387

[native plume]

I can recommend two things, listen to previous cubetalks because some questions get asked about AI and cybersec

Also check hackernews for any article related to AI (how it's being weponized etc)

[pastel moss]

Me?

[warped plank]

Bro goes around assuming the worst out of humanity...

[native plume]

"Marked as duplicate"

[hoary nebula]

just a lil bit of trolling here

[warped plank]

Bro those sites are sent probably because you were being inefficient with asking your questions.

Hello, any expert java devs around?
^ this wastes time, this requires both parties to be active at the same time, and honestly just states :I'm too lazy to ask unless someone who thinks they're an expert can answer me

Rather than just:

In Java how do I add padding to my grid layout GUI using the Swing Library?
Simple, concise, contains all the information needed, and can be answered by someone who isn't asked whether or not they're an expert.

[pastel moss]

Ahm no hate or disrespect to anyone. I just came here to find some good resources for my seminar i have to give. Thats all.

[warped plank]

Also, we're not gonna assume he's a beginner, he's the one talking in a seminar

[pastel moss]

Ahn im a highscooler

Its a competition 🙃

[warped plank]

Ohh, how old are you?

https://www.netspi.com/blog/executive-blog/web-application-pentesting/vibe-coding-a-pentesters-dream/

here's a good blog to base your talk on

[pastel moss]

17

[warped plank]

You're gonna need parental consent to stay here...

[pastel moss]

Bro 🙂

[warped plank]

https://help.hackthebox.com/en/articles/9456556-parental-consent-and-approval-for-users-under-18#h_3cc38487f1

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-nD561mEhb89ecqAW4_iSAT5qv-GZmoq/view?usp=sharing

[pastel moss]

Bro please 🙂

Ill be 18 in 2 month

[cedar shell]

This is no joke. Check out the ToS.

[warped plank]

We're just volunteer mods mate, we don't make the decisions. We just gotta report and moderate when people break Rules/ToS

[pastel moss]

Tos?

[lilac cipher]

Terms of Service

[cedar shell]

Terms of Service

[hoary nebula]

ban him

[pastel moss]

Broo

Hiw do i show my parental consent

[stone marsh]

Grab the form, get it filled out

[lilac cipher]

Fill in the form and then email them

[warped plank]

Read the links I sent above

[pastel moss]

Form 🙂

[pastel moss]

Why so much work 🥲

[warped plank]

Cos It's the law, not even just HTB

[lilac cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/that's-the-law-roger-white-a-man-in-full-it's-the-rules-aml-ameen-gif-5133244891421477903

[pastel moss]

Of where?

[green kite]

the entirety of europe

[warped plank]

EU, where HTB is registered as a company

[pastel moss]

Im from asia tho

🙂

[green kite]

HTB is a European company

[warped plank]

[green kite]

it has to adhere to the laws, regardles of your location

[pastel moss]

Very good 👌

[hoary nebula]

topkek

[stone marsh]

Man, imagine if just saying "Yo I am american" or similar made you immune to ToS, that would be awesome

[warped plank]

I assure you, where you live has nothing to do with their compliance...

[pastel moss]

Soryy🏃

Ill mail the consent today

[subtle plover]

[hoary nebula]

@subtle plover watch the alerts

[subtle plover]

[timid axle]

If you can ask concise question with all the info, you can just google it 🤓

[vast mango]

Yo did u guys know that if you upload a tiktok, they have your email, ur adress, number and more things

And if the NSA want, they can take all that information

[signal mica]

Thank god im too lazy to manually insert those

[hoary nebula]

only americans

not in EU

[signal mica]

Take it all, profile me, conclude my persona from it

(Ineffective)

[warped plank]

Did you know it's not only on tiktok?

[stone marsh]

It would just be a different letter organisation for you

[hoary nebula]

nu uh, data is more protected hjere

[signal mica]

Some eu mfs want to scan our msgs on msg apps before we send them

[heady sage]

W1ld the tax evading man

[warped plank]

It's not hard, just find a way to prove you need it for work

Youtubers do it all the time by filming everything they buy

[heady sage]

Aren’t you on probation for mod because you evade taxes

[warped plank]

I can't evade taxes that way, I have no j*b

[hoary nebula]

@warped plank have you been to Hobbitton

[warped plank]

Nope

[hoary nebula]

why nooooooooot

[mystic harbor]

[timid axle]

Not really
EU is extremly inefficient as an org

[warped plank]

If you don't enjoy learning you're doing it wrong

[heady sage]

I’m trying to develop BOFS on my laptop but my vm keeps freezing when I start up Visual Studio

[subtle plover]

[signal mica]

Real

[warped plank]

No money

[timid axle]

Imagine learning instead of being all-knowing

[hoary nebula]

i wanna do the lotr tour in NZ in my life, cost around 5k

maybe in 2 years

[warped plank]

But then you wouldn't have experienced the fun of learning

[hoary nebula]

https://red-carpet-tours.rezdy.com/

[placid scroll]

Well learning can mean cool stuff or for me rn 3 weeks of 9h math a day for uni

[hoary nebula]

nvm its 10k

[placid scroll]

I do not enjoy math.

[warped plank]

You spend 9h learning or studying? There's a difference... studying =/= learning

Studying is pain and torture

[hoary nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/tyler1-loltyler1-screaming-dead-wtf-gif-17500255

[placid scroll]

Yea studying and relearning old stuff

[warped plank]

Out of curiositu, what kind of maths?

[placid scroll]

Like the ass stuff Like Terminology and rules and stuff its basically Year 1-12 in Germany in Math. It took me a week to shake the rust If but now i am once again decent at it

[warped plank]

Wait so you're studying 12 years worth of math for university?

[placid scroll]

Like vectors fractions with a lot of Algebra, square roots and logarimic stuff

To get fluient in it since the basic are the most important thing

[warped plank]

Ohh, oh damn, I hate vectors, not as much as I hate scalars though

[placid scroll]

No i am working i do it in my freetime. It's a dual system i do

I work 8:30h a day and then prepare for uni.

[warped plank]

tbf 80% of learning maths is just practice

[placid scroll]

In a few years i will be a Professional programmer with a batchelors degree in Software and Systems engineering while i Work for a Software dev company

[fierce vale]

wait till you hear about tensors bruh

[timid axle]

Should do like Karate sensei
Once you achieve blackbelt, u put the white one and start from scratch

[placid scroll]

I saw some of it and hate it already

[fierce vale]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-the-joke-ranier-wolfcastle-mc-bain-the-simpsons-stand-up-comedy-gif-4372917

[hoary nebula]

well well well

[hoary nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/nope-michael-scott-bye-ciao-the-office-gif-17481695

[tiny canyon]

it’s ok to eat pulled pork if ur islam they already pulled the pork out of it

[timid axle]

Smoking ✅
Drinking ✅
Pork ❎

[elder inlet]

What if... and hear me out.

We smoke the pork in bourbon?

https://tenor.com/view/what-can-i-say-anybody-hello-say-what-gif-21564341

[pure kayak]

drinking isn't allowed either

smoking is technically not allowed but its more of an acceptable gray area

[hoary nebula]

damn, no drinking lmao L

[pure kayak]

alcohol is basically poison tbf

[hoary nebula]

true

[pure kayak]

this was after he punched a guy on a plane i thik

[timid axle]

Guy is rich af now probably

But tyson is brokie tbh

So dunno

[pure kayak]

tyson was brokie once but bounced back i think

[hoary nebula]

he got money from losing to logan

or was it jake

[molten bobcat]

Mike Tyson has a net worth of $30 million

We have different definitions of "broke"

And both fighters received a payout regardless of the outcome.

So y'know

Nobody really "lost' outside of maybe Tyson's pride

And even then, he did an exhib match for money. What pride?

[pure kayak]

tyson aint got pet white tiger money no more

[molten bobcat]

$30 million dollars.

30,000,000

[pure kayak]

you need a 10 million dollar home just for a pet tiger

[molten bobcat]

He did get hosed by the IRS

[vast mango]

A minute of silence for ch4p for creating HackTheBox

[molten bobcat]

Years back

[pure kayak]

i think celebs aren't really as rich as the numbers say

[molten bobcat]

Well yeah, it's their "net worth"

[pure kayak]

even after that

their lifestyle is extremely expensive and a lot of their money is tied down

[molten bobcat]

Correct. In assets.

And assets increase your worth

[timid axle]

Tbh, if at 60+ u need to go fight on a ring for money, u a brokie

[pure kayak]

not all assets

[molten bobcat]

Again, we have different definitions of "brokie"

[pure kayak]

tyson isnt a brokie but he's rich poor

[timid axle]

Below 100 milly u a brokie

[pure kayak]

how many milly you got

[molten bobcat]

None

Not a single one

[pure kayak]

maybe they got their parents home in inheritance

[molten bobcat]

If you have at least a million dollars worth of assets or just flat out value, being here is incredibly stupid waste of time

[pure kayak]

that's probably a milly

[molten bobcat]

Counting on inheritance for wealth is beta mindset

Counting on wealth in general is beta mindset

[pure kayak]

hey money is still money

[molten bobcat]

I hate money

[pure kayak]

donate urs to me

[molten bobcat]

Explode

[hoary nebula]

boom