#lore-and-universe | Halo | Page 431

west silo Nov 5, 2020, 4:33 AM

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I miss the drones

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Why can't 343 bring them back?

terse lava Nov 5, 2020, 4:36 AM

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Pest control

west silo Nov 5, 2020, 4:36 AM

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Looks at the hunters

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I don't think that's the reason

echo sierra Nov 5, 2020, 4:39 AM

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Anyone in this server?

gilded mason Nov 5, 2020, 4:39 AM

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Nope. Nobody here at all.

echo sierra Nov 5, 2020, 4:39 AM

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Well your here aren't you?

gilded mason Nov 5, 2020, 4:40 AM

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I am not. I'm actually just a figment on your imagination.

echo sierra Nov 5, 2020, 4:40 AM

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Lol 😂

west silo Nov 5, 2020, 4:41 AM

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But I can also see you

terse lava Nov 5, 2020, 4:41 AM

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We are all lies, like the cake

gilded mason Nov 5, 2020, 4:41 AM

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A shared delusion, duh

west silo Nov 5, 2020, 4:41 AM

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Just like the great journey

echo sierra Nov 5, 2020, 4:41 AM

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I'm just here cause general discussion server is dead rn

terse lava Nov 5, 2020, 4:42 AM

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Implying it had any life to begin with

west silo Nov 5, 2020, 4:42 AM

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So who wants to talk about coatings!!!!!!!

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Yes yes

echo sierra Nov 5, 2020, 4:42 AM

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God please no

west silo Nov 5, 2020, 4:42 AM

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5 dollars for that majestic blue

gilded mason Nov 5, 2020, 4:43 AM

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I'm gonn ban you, 117. 😌

west silo Nov 5, 2020, 4:43 AM

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You can't silence the truth

echo sierra Nov 5, 2020, 4:43 AM

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This might become an even bigger meme than craig the brute was lol

gilded mason Nov 5, 2020, 4:43 AM

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I can try

west silo Nov 5, 2020, 4:44 AM

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But its really overblown

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I have been playing some FTP games lately and have realized how I don't really care about customization

gilded mason Nov 5, 2020, 4:45 AM

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Well, I care about customization.

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Also, we should stop talking about this in a lore channel

west silo Nov 5, 2020, 4:45 AM

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No one cares what you care about

gilded mason Nov 5, 2020, 4:45 AM

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wude

west silo Nov 5, 2020, 4:45 AM

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😜

echo sierra Nov 5, 2020, 4:45 AM

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Ok guys chill

gilded mason Nov 5, 2020, 4:45 AM

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We are.

west silo Nov 5, 2020, 4:45 AM

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Am joking bro

echo sierra Nov 5, 2020, 4:45 AM

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Oh...

west silo Nov 5, 2020, 4:46 AM

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I wouldn't bash someone for caring about something so integral to the game

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The reason I don't really care about customization is because I can't see my character half the time and the people who do see him are the ones trying to kill him

echo sierra Nov 5, 2020, 4:47 AM

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True

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Permission to ask a question?

west silo Nov 5, 2020, 4:48 AM

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Granted

echo sierra Nov 5, 2020, 4:48 AM

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What soundtrack is y'alls favorite?

west silo Nov 5, 2020, 4:49 AM

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I like reclaimer and the one that plays during the warthogs run in 3

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And the one in 2 during the scorpion bridge mission

echo sierra Nov 5, 2020, 4:51 AM

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Good ones! Mine is probably skyline from odst and in amber clad from 2

terse lava Nov 5, 2020, 4:51 AM

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Depends i guess

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High charity's "theme," impart, under the cover of night are some

echo sierra Nov 5, 2020, 4:52 AM

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Yeah high Charity's theme was awesome @terse lava

west silo Nov 5, 2020, 4:53 AM

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Favorite weapons

terse lava Nov 5, 2020, 4:53 AM

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Plasma rifle

echo sierra Nov 5, 2020, 4:53 AM

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Needle rifle

west silo Nov 5, 2020, 4:54 AM

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Mine is the 4 and 5 AR because I can actually effectively kill something with it

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That isn't a grunt

stiff creek Nov 5, 2020, 4:55 AM

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MA5B.

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My favorite gun.

west silo Nov 5, 2020, 4:55 AM

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Next is the hydra because come on a gun that shoots mini missiles what's not love

terse lava Nov 5, 2020, 4:56 AM

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Lack of plasma

west silo Nov 5, 2020, 4:56 AM

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The 5 plasma caster

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Nuff said

stiff creek Nov 5, 2020, 4:58 AM

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Scourge of Fire.

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End of the game for everybody.

west silo Nov 5, 2020, 4:58 AM

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The Answer

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GG

unique rune Nov 5, 2020, 5:29 AM

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~~Coil~~Railgun best gun

versed helm Nov 5, 2020, 7:33 AM

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Yeah

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Handheld MAC

fair hazel Nov 5, 2020, 7:40 AM

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I tend to like forerunner stuff.

versed helm Nov 5, 2020, 10:51 AM

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Maybe a Forerunner Light Manipulator that can instantly harden the light in a radius, killing everything in the radius

cedar surge Nov 5, 2020, 12:49 PM

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Flood pesticide

grand iris Nov 5, 2020, 12:58 PM

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Shouldn't flood infection forms have a hard time infecting infantry wearing armour unless they aim for the unprotected parts?

stiff creek Nov 5, 2020, 12:58 PM

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Apparently not.

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They're pretty strong for their size.

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One almost got through Chief's undersuit once.

grand iris Nov 5, 2020, 12:59 PM

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I'm guessing their feelers are pretty strong and sharp then to be able to pierce through armour

stiff creek Nov 5, 2020, 1:00 PM

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I guess so.

grand iris Nov 5, 2020, 1:01 PM

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It came to my mind before that if the infantry get in infected before they lose their mind and are twisted why not set off a grenade as a last act of defiance or shoot it off if they grapple it

stiff creek Nov 5, 2020, 1:03 PM

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If you pull the pin on a grenade, you better have enough willpower to tell your squadmates. And I don't think one hand is enough to hold an infection form.

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Plus, they're huge.

grand iris Nov 5, 2020, 1:04 PM

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But i guess in a way it depends on the situation since infection forms travel in a group

stiff creek Nov 5, 2020, 1:04 PM

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Sure.

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It'd be like trying to grab onto the top of a slimey plastic bag.

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And not using the handles.

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And the bag has tentacles that can kill you.

humble yacht Nov 5, 2020, 1:06 PM

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you would have to blow yourself up pretty much the moment the pod infector jumped on you, because once they pierce your skin they pretty much instantly tap into your spinal cord and take over your motor functions

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but for most people that's too early to pull the pin because there is still that survival instinct to try and fight them off

grand iris Nov 5, 2020, 1:08 PM

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Unless they have enough willpower to fight the infection in them and set off a grenade

stiff creek Nov 5, 2020, 1:08 PM

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If you're not already unconscious.

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*half conscious

grand iris Nov 5, 2020, 1:09 PM

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The infected are conscious aren't they? Or they are already dead?

humble yacht Nov 5, 2020, 1:09 PM

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Unless they have enough willpower to fight the infection in them and set off a grenade
yea that's not really possible

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even an old infector like the one who controlled Jenkins was able to fully control the body

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jenkins couldn't move, he was a passenger in his own corpse

stiff creek Nov 5, 2020, 1:09 PM

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Most infected are dead dead.

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But yïs

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The Jenkins situation

humble yacht Nov 5, 2020, 1:10 PM

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Jenkins was a special case, normally the mutations are so violent that death is instantaneous

grand iris Nov 5, 2020, 1:10 PM

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jenkins could still speak but he's fighting for control over his body?

versed helm Nov 5, 2020, 1:11 PM

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I'm re-reading the flood rn and jenkins has partial control whenever the flood mind decides to recede

humble yacht Nov 5, 2020, 1:11 PM

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he managed a few words but mostly he only retained awareness of himself

stiff creek Nov 5, 2020, 1:11 PM

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At least Jenkins got to know how it felt to be a tentacle boi for a bit.

versed helm Nov 5, 2020, 1:12 PM

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also it says that when Keyes got his spinal cord tapped he felt such intense pain he fainted on the spot

stiff creek Nov 5, 2020, 1:13 PM

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Probably.

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I don't know why I said probably, I meant...

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Of course.
Or something.

echo nebula Nov 5, 2020, 1:15 PM

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Could Jenkins actually speak? As I recall it, he could only gesture and grunt

versed helm Nov 5, 2020, 1:16 PM

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he tried but only gibberish came out. He could nod and point with his good hand

stiff creek Nov 5, 2020, 1:16 PM

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Heh
"good"

cedar surge Nov 5, 2020, 1:16 PM

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Then how did he warn McKay?

versed helm Nov 5, 2020, 1:17 PM

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He pointed at Silva's right boot and she understood

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She figured he was actually pointing at the central grate

echo nebula Nov 5, 2020, 1:17 PM

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It took a few tries, but eventually they understood he was pointing down

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And the only reason Jenkins was able to "stick around" is because the infection from was very old, and unable to completely take over

versed helm Nov 5, 2020, 1:20 PM

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Yeah, something like being damaged/weakened during the hibernation/wake up process, more or less

echo nebula Nov 5, 2020, 1:21 PM

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Jenkins could feel everything that happened to him, when the "other" lunged at the Major and broke his arm, he felt that

humble yacht Nov 5, 2020, 1:21 PM

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imagine a pod infector with a cane and a white beard

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"you young whippersnapper, slow down and let me attach to your spine!"

versed helm Nov 5, 2020, 1:23 PM

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flood infection form being a gross grandpa, eughghgh

echo nebula Nov 5, 2020, 1:23 PM

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back in my day, we had AI to do all the hard work for us

humble yacht Nov 5, 2020, 1:25 PM

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You youngsters these days don’t know what it’s like fighting in a real war

versed helm Nov 5, 2020, 1:25 PM

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it's just like cod but with iron skull on, wdym

echo nebula Nov 5, 2020, 1:26 PM

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We had fleets of thousands, our fleets would smother entire solar systems

humble yacht Nov 5, 2020, 1:26 PM

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Back in my day, we had to walk 15 miles to the nearest slipspace portal

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And it was uphill both ways

stiff creek Nov 5, 2020, 1:31 PM

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how old are you tf

humble yacht Nov 5, 2020, 1:36 PM

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100,000 yo, give or take a few millennia

stiff creek Nov 5, 2020, 1:37 PM

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I knew it
Buck is Forerunner

grand iris Nov 5, 2020, 1:37 PM

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Must have been in cyrostasis while his mind was active

humble yacht Nov 5, 2020, 1:38 PM

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Bruh you missed some critical context

grand iris Nov 5, 2020, 1:39 PM

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What did i miss?

cedar surge Nov 5, 2020, 1:52 PM

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That

humble yacht Nov 5, 2020, 1:53 PM

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What did i miss?
your shots (lol)

versed helm Nov 5, 2020, 2:21 PM

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At least Buck had slipspace. We had to cryosleep as we went from planet to planet

slim thorn Nov 5, 2020, 2:38 PM

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all for that just makes Buck got slapped by Dare

west silo Nov 5, 2020, 4:03 PM

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So is there ever going to be a resolution for the Meridean storyline

stiff creek Nov 5, 2020, 4:15 PM

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People are probably gonna go back to chipping away the glass after the they don't need to worry about the Guardians.

west silo Nov 5, 2020, 4:24 PM

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Not that

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The battleborn trilogy

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Which unfortunately has been probably been discontinued

humble yacht Nov 5, 2020, 4:28 PM

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i mean, wasn't it just a trilogy

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oh so the third novel was cancelled

west silo Nov 5, 2020, 4:40 PM

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Yep

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And we never found out what happened to the kids

obsidian thistle Nov 5, 2020, 4:50 PM

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The sad thing is Scholastic hardly advertised the books. And for better or worse 343i/MS didnt push them heavily either. :/

west silo Nov 5, 2020, 4:50 PM

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And it was really good

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Better than the last YA novel

obsidian thistle Nov 5, 2020, 4:51 PM

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Well depends who you talk to lol. Some didnt like the quazi-S4s that existed.

west silo Nov 5, 2020, 4:52 PM

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Well they also would have gotten the Spartan being kids again

obsidian thistle Nov 5, 2020, 4:53 PM

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We on Halopedia often joke about how the books are a Ilsa Zane origin story lol

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Cause the third book was cancelled and apparently all prototype S4s died bar 1.

unique rune Nov 5, 2020, 5:47 PM

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Yeah, my first thought with that was “so these kids are dead now, right...?”

west silo Nov 5, 2020, 6:13 PM

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Now that would be a twist

terse lava Nov 5, 2020, 10:27 PM

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slightly sad but amusing at least

hard panther Nov 5, 2020, 11:11 PM

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Master chef made a burrito for me

cedar surge Nov 6, 2020, 1:52 AM

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So in fall of reach most of the Spartan twos who fell out of the pelican fell to their deaths right? Isn't their armor made to land from orbit? Jerome is using a older version and he survived

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With no shield or anything

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Though that could just be forerunner magic at the ark

tropic forge Nov 6, 2020, 2:46 AM

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Only 4 Spartan-IIs died when they fell out of a pelican.

stiff creek Nov 6, 2020, 2:46 AM

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Could have done some debris parkour.

tropic forge Nov 6, 2020, 2:47 AM

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The armour is decidedly not made to survive falls from orbit. It can, but it usually messes the Spartan up.

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Jerome is actually technically wearing newer armour, as after a point in Halo Wars 2, he's wearing hybrid GEN2/Mark IV with GEN2 parts salvaged from the Ark.

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Both his original Mark IV and the hybrid suit have shields.

cedar surge Nov 6, 2020, 2:48 AM

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Wouldn't that be inferior since its a hybrid and not fully new?

tropic forge Nov 6, 2020, 2:48 AM

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Couldn't tell you.

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But it lets him host an AI, so it's a pretty big upgrade.

unique rune Nov 6, 2020, 2:57 AM

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Should probably be superior to GEN1 but still inferior to GEN2 proper.

west silo Nov 6, 2020, 3:00 AM

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Then again buck in gen2 is scared a drop from the same height as chief in 3 would kill him even tho he's in gen2

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Badblood

ocean ibex Nov 6, 2020, 3:21 AM

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Does anyone have an estimate on how many military deaths occurred during the war? Excluding civilian casualties

jolly furnace Nov 6, 2020, 3:26 AM

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A lot

tropic forge Nov 6, 2020, 3:29 AM

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23 billion. It comes up in Palace Hotel.

ocean ibex Nov 6, 2020, 3:33 AM

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That’s the total count, I’m talking about military specifically, ie marines, naval servicemen, Spartans, etc

versed helm Nov 6, 2020, 3:37 AM

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Did we ever get an explanation, or clarification as to what the “New Phoenix Incident” was (exactly)?Rewatching the Spartan ops cutscenes, and it caught my attention.

tropic forge Nov 6, 2020, 3:38 AM

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Less than 23 billion

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And the New Phoenix incident was the didact attacking in h4

ocean ibex Nov 6, 2020, 3:38 AM

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Ye

versed helm Nov 6, 2020, 3:40 AM

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And the New Phoenix incident was the didact attacking in h4
@tropic forge

Thanks! Much appreciated

cedar surge Nov 6, 2020, 3:42 AM

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I would guess hundreds of millions

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Its estimated the unsc had a few hundred million to a billion in service

gilded mason Nov 6, 2020, 3:44 AM

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I feel like calling what happened in New Phoenix an "incident" is really underselling it. By a lot.

unique rune Nov 6, 2020, 3:45 AM

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"Yeah an entire city's worth of people are dead, but, y'know, minor incident. Can't let that get in the way of other things"

stiff creek Nov 6, 2020, 4:02 AM

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2 cities worth.

cedar surge Nov 6, 2020, 4:11 AM

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Pretty sure that was the point

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They didn't want people to panic like lit was the covenant war all over again x10

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And told them it was just a covenant attack

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as if that's any better

cedar surge Nov 6, 2020, 5:00 AM

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Still how would they ever explain the covenant
Who don't exactly wipe out humans quietly
Make a entire city disappear in a few seconds

craggy hearth Nov 6, 2020, 10:22 AM

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I am new to halo fellas
So I had a question In my mind

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Will they kill of atriox in coming years and would banished be the main faction we're gonna fight for 10 years coz infinite is 10 year service that's for sure

versed helm Nov 6, 2020, 12:23 PM

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maybe

versed helm Nov 6, 2020, 1:53 PM

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I hope not

cedar surge Nov 6, 2020, 1:58 PM

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Well it would just be kinda dumb to kill Atriox right now

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The banished have only been in a RTS and a upcoming main game

stiff creek Nov 6, 2020, 2:04 PM

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I think I'll only accept Atriox's death at the hands of Red Team, or somebody from it.

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And it'd be great if it were Douglas.

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Jerome has had enough coolguy time.

slim thorn Nov 6, 2020, 2:35 PM

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lol, I also want it

cedar surge Nov 6, 2020, 2:46 PM

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its red versus red, and blue versus blue

glossy sorrel Nov 6, 2020, 2:48 PM

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I LOVE THE SEEKER HELMET

stiff creek Nov 6, 2020, 2:48 PM

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Both the Banished and Swords of Sanghelios are red.

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A good amount of Spartans are blue, and so are a number of bad guys.

grand iris Nov 6, 2020, 2:53 PM

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Think Tom-B292 and Lucy-B091 will be joining Blue team again?

slim thorn Nov 6, 2020, 2:57 PM

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Well, they are at Onyx and unless Fred or Linda can recommend Chief to take them in, the Blue Team need to finish the conflict at Onyx first.

grand iris Nov 6, 2020, 3:00 PM

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Fred was in command when he offered the Beta and Gamma's into Blue team?

humble yacht Nov 6, 2020, 3:00 PM

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fred is actually ranked higher than chief, officially

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but he defers to chief because he respects John as a leader. but if chief isn't around then fred is in command due to his rank

cloud trellis Nov 6, 2020, 4:06 PM

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just read contact harvest

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pretty ok book

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is it a good idea to read the shadows of reach after reading the early halo books?

spiral jewel Nov 6, 2020, 4:15 PM

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Until today I didn't know that Alpha (September, 2552), Gamma (October, 2552) and Delta Halos (November 2552) were discovered all in the same year.

humble yacht Nov 6, 2020, 4:16 PM

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gamma halo was found after alpha

spiral jewel Nov 6, 2020, 4:17 PM

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I was correcting the dates

humble yacht Nov 6, 2020, 4:18 PM

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Delta Halo was discovered by the UNSC in november

spiral jewel Nov 6, 2020, 4:19 PM

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My apologies for the goof up on dates

cedar surge Nov 6, 2020, 4:21 PM

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@cloud trellis you can read SoR without any prior knowledge of halo books

cloud trellis Nov 6, 2020, 4:24 PM

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interesting, I don't even know how we got to Halo 5

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Who are the guardians again, how did cortana go rouge

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I know SoR is right after

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but like quite a jump has been taken

humble yacht Nov 6, 2020, 4:34 PM

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@cloud trellis that largely depends on where you left off with Halo

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what was the last Halo game you played, or the last halo book you read?

cloud trellis Nov 6, 2020, 4:35 PM

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5 was the last one I played when it initally released, last book was contact harvest

humble yacht Nov 6, 2020, 4:35 PM

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ok, well to answer your questions:

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Guardians are ancient Forerunner constructs designed to police entire star systems and enforce Forerunner rule. They do this by threat of destroying/disabling technology. They have an EMP weapon that can disrupt and disable electronic equipment on a planetary scale

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Towards the end of the Forerunners' reign over the galaxy, the Guardians were decommissioned and buried across the galaxy. Cortana found them and reactivated them, raising them from their slumber (this process caused violent seismic activity that killed alot of people)

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As for how Cortana went "rogue", this has not been 100% explained. What we know for sure is that after Cortana saved Chief from Didact's exploding ship, the rampant personality spikes she ejected into the ship's systems followed the broken ship through slipspace to a planet called Genesis. There, she was able to come in contact with the Domain, which cured her of her rampancy and made her effectively immortal. However, we still don't know where her desire to take over the galaxy comes from.

flat bone Nov 6, 2020, 4:40 PM

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Is the logic plague thing still a posiblity?

cloud trellis Nov 6, 2020, 4:41 PM

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I see, i vaguely remember that from halo 4 and 5

humble yacht Nov 6, 2020, 4:41 PM

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in the sense that anything is possible in fiction, sure

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but it's not like there is concrete evidence suggesting that logic plague is behind her shift in personality

flat bone Nov 6, 2020, 4:41 PM

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k

shut oyster Nov 6, 2020, 7:19 PM

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does anyone know how a halo ring actually kills? like what is the pulse that destroys all organic life

gilded mason Nov 6, 2020, 7:19 PM

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Some sort of neutrino pulse that fries anything with a nervous system

humble yacht Nov 6, 2020, 7:19 PM

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it's a type of superluminal radiation that disrupts neural physics

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Cortana calls it a "phase pulse"

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apparently the pulse can actually be fine tuned to target different things

shut oyster Nov 6, 2020, 7:20 PM

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so it only affects biolody advanced enough with a nervous system, brain, but plants and bacteria can survive?

gilded mason Nov 6, 2020, 7:20 PM

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Yeah

humble yacht Nov 6, 2020, 7:20 PM

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yes, plants and bacteria are fine

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i also remember reading somewhere that if you're on the ring itself, you get a headache from the firing but you actually live through it

shut oyster Nov 6, 2020, 7:21 PM

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why did the forerunners not make mini halo rings that you can direct like a gun?

gilded mason Nov 6, 2020, 7:21 PM

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They did

humble yacht Nov 6, 2020, 7:21 PM

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however, i can't find any reference to that on halopedia

shut oyster Nov 6, 2020, 7:21 PM

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did it work

gilded mason Nov 6, 2020, 7:21 PM

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Not well

shut oyster Nov 6, 2020, 7:21 PM

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well probably not but

humble yacht Nov 6, 2020, 7:21 PM

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the original Halo array (the big rings), actually fired that way

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instead of an omnidirectional pulse, they fired in one direction

trail mirage Nov 6, 2020, 7:22 PM

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ehh

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they made the rings so then they can deprive of flood food

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they made the rings so then instead of firing in one direction they made blast in several directions

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going on for several million light years

humble yacht Nov 6, 2020, 7:26 PM

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uh

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big wrong

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the max range of a single halo is 25,000 light years. nowhere near "several million"

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heck, the galaxy is only about 200,000 light years wide in the thickest part

trail mirage Nov 6, 2020, 7:27 PM

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well

shut oyster Nov 6, 2020, 7:27 PM

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what did the mantle of responsibility actually provide humanity/ forerunners? Or was it mostly just a title

gilded mason Nov 6, 2020, 7:28 PM

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It was a title/concept

humble yacht Nov 6, 2020, 7:28 PM

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the Mantle is purely metaphorical

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it's not an actual thing that can be touched

west silo Nov 6, 2020, 7:28 PM

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I think he meant in all

shut oyster Nov 6, 2020, 7:28 PM

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the forerunners are smart right but they are so dumb, they got annoyed over a TITLE and fought the precursors and humans

west silo Nov 6, 2020, 7:28 PM

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Well it was a title to rule the galaxy

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You'd be a little upset too

gilded mason Nov 6, 2020, 7:29 PM

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Basically, "We accept that we must bear ~~the white man's burden~~ the responsibility of controlling these lesser beings and 'guide' them to the right path...that we choose."

humble yacht Nov 6, 2020, 7:29 PM

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😐

gilded mason Nov 6, 2020, 7:30 PM

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What's that face for, Chim?

humble yacht Nov 6, 2020, 7:30 PM

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it's frustrating how accurate that parallel is

gilded mason Nov 6, 2020, 7:30 PM

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Ah

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lol

shut oyster Nov 6, 2020, 7:30 PM

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potentially it means they ahve less responsibility and can look after their own colonies more

west silo Nov 6, 2020, 7:30 PM

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But that's not what they want

shut oyster Nov 6, 2020, 7:31 PM

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as a good side because they didnt get the mantle

west silo Nov 6, 2020, 7:31 PM

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The guys had fleets of thousands

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Could travel across the galaxy

shut oyster Nov 6, 2020, 7:31 PM

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can't they still do what they want it's not like they were restricted just because the mantle was given to someone else

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and go to whatever planet

west silo Nov 6, 2020, 7:31 PM

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Well yeah

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The mantle is a religion

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Like Christianity

gilded mason Nov 6, 2020, 7:32 PM

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It's basically just imperialism/might-makes-right malarky

humble yacht Nov 6, 2020, 7:32 PM

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eh

west silo Nov 6, 2020, 7:32 PM

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You can't just say get over it

humble yacht Nov 6, 2020, 7:32 PM

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yeah, "religion" isn't exactly the right term

stiff creek Nov 6, 2020, 7:32 PM

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^

humble yacht Nov 6, 2020, 7:32 PM

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The Mantle is a philosophy

west silo Nov 6, 2020, 7:33 PM

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In cryptum they speak of it more like a religion

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Especially with our belief in the mantle

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They even speak prayers to the mantle

shut oyster Nov 6, 2020, 7:34 PM

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why aren't there 2 mantles

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1 for each right

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lol

gilded mason Nov 6, 2020, 7:34 PM

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What?

west silo Nov 6, 2020, 7:34 PM

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Because there can only be one

humble yacht Nov 6, 2020, 7:34 PM

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same reason England never had two kings

shut oyster Nov 6, 2020, 7:34 PM

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oh right

west silo Nov 6, 2020, 7:34 PM

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It's literally by definition one species above all

shut oyster Nov 6, 2020, 7:43 PM

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how many precursors were there before they were wiped out?

lavish garnet Nov 6, 2020, 7:44 PM

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343

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Ignore that, I have no idea

west silo Nov 6, 2020, 7:46 PM

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They were an entire society so billions

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Maybe more

humble yacht Nov 6, 2020, 7:46 PM

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or maybe less

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it's not like they needed numbers

west silo Nov 6, 2020, 7:47 PM

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Yeah

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But there were millions of capsules

shut oyster Nov 6, 2020, 7:47 PM

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how did the forerunners even touch them? they were stronger and had better technology (precursors), and also the forerunners went against the humans too who were the rival faction must have been quite advanced

west silo Nov 6, 2020, 7:47 PM

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They were physical

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You can kill there physical form

humble yacht Nov 6, 2020, 7:47 PM

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yea but that shouldn't have really mattered

west silo Nov 6, 2020, 7:47 PM

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But there spirit is immortal

humble yacht Nov 6, 2020, 7:47 PM

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they could just think new physical forms into existence

west silo Nov 6, 2020, 7:48 PM

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And they let themselves be destroyed

shut oyster Nov 6, 2020, 7:48 PM

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yeah but they would know if a forerunner is approaching

west silo Nov 6, 2020, 7:48 PM

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They did

shut oyster Nov 6, 2020, 7:48 PM

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so just fly away or defend themselves

west silo Nov 6, 2020, 7:48 PM

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They just watched im fascination

humble yacht Nov 6, 2020, 7:49 PM

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if they were fine being destroyed then there's no reason the flood should exxist

shut oyster Nov 6, 2020, 7:49 PM

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or yeah think up a defence like green lantern right

humble yacht Nov 6, 2020, 7:49 PM

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the flood exist because the precursors were salty about being destroyed

west silo Nov 6, 2020, 7:49 PM

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What other reason could the forerunners defeat them then?

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They had star roads

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That's an instant win

humble yacht Nov 6, 2020, 7:49 PM

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it'd be very hypocritical to just accept your demise and then be vengeful after the fact

shut oyster Nov 6, 2020, 7:52 PM

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how strong was previous humanity's old military compared to the UNSC in like the present halo 2500s

humble yacht Nov 6, 2020, 7:52 PM

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you mean Ancient Humanity vs the UNSC?

shut oyster Nov 6, 2020, 7:52 PM

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yeah

humble yacht Nov 6, 2020, 7:52 PM

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obviously Ancient Humans were much more technologically advanced

west silo Nov 6, 2020, 7:53 PM

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The precursors created the mantle sooo

humble yacht Nov 6, 2020, 7:53 PM

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they came up with the idea of the mantle

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but their interpretation of what it meant to rule a galaxy was more... hands off

shut oyster Nov 6, 2020, 7:54 PM

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what were their soldiers like and their armour?

humble yacht Nov 6, 2020, 7:55 PM

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ancient human armor looked a little like Hellcat Mjolnir

shut oyster Nov 6, 2020, 7:56 PM

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is it quite stronger than a spartan 2 suit?

humble yacht Nov 6, 2020, 7:56 PM

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probably

shut oyster Nov 6, 2020, 7:57 PM

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were they completely wiped out? like did no stragglers or small groups try and get far away and colonise a different galaxy or planet while the war was going down

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forerunners still around come to think of it but only the metal versions

humble yacht Nov 6, 2020, 7:59 PM

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ancient humans were eradicated. humanity was reseeded by the forerunners but in a devolved state

west silo Nov 6, 2020, 8:04 PM

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They couldn't even if they wanted to

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The forerunners shutdown there FTL early in the war and when there capital fell most human world just gave up

terse lava Nov 6, 2020, 9:40 PM

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Actually was the other way around. Charrom Hakkor was implied to be the last real world. everything afterwards were just holdouts and redoubts

west silo Nov 6, 2020, 9:45 PM

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Maybe it is

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Actually didn't the didact do something similar to the island hopping campaign during WW2

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He attacked all the important humans worlds and ignored the smaller ones for later

terse lava Nov 6, 2020, 9:58 PM

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yep

west silo Nov 6, 2020, 10:00 PM

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And it has such an original name!!!

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Star hopping

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Man the forerunners were a really creative bunch

terse lava Nov 6, 2020, 10:17 PM

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Eh true

west silo Nov 6, 2020, 10:20 PM

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Dazzlers

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Come on I can't say Bafflers?

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Oh so now you let me

terse lava Nov 6, 2020, 10:24 PM

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The Covenant were far more creative on thr naming of things

west silo Nov 6, 2020, 10:25 PM

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Mind melters

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That sounds so silly and awesome

stable flower Nov 6, 2020, 10:30 PM

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Human vehicles - animals. Covenant vehicles - supernatural entities. Forerunner vehicles - vintage touring cars?

silver matrix Nov 6, 2020, 10:42 PM

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arbiter

cedar surge Nov 6, 2020, 10:43 PM

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Well all 3 can kill you

unique rune Nov 6, 2020, 11:34 PM

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To be fair we haven't really seen enough Forerunner vehicles to concretely define what conventions the UNSC uses to name them.

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Not to mention Phaeton is probably supposed to be derived from the name of a Greek deity.

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Given that the variants we know of are called the Helios and Eos.

terse lava Nov 7, 2020, 12:19 AM

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Forerunner naming seems to be more....blunt. keyship: used as a literal key to the lesser ark. Fortress vessel: A massive warship capable of being used as a CIC station. Harrier: a small, swift attack ship that can attack in fleets of hundreds of thousands

cedar surge Nov 7, 2020, 12:21 AM

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Well their structures were bare in 1 2 and 3 and HW so it would match

flat bone Nov 7, 2020, 12:22 AM

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Human vehicles are named after animals

terse lava Nov 7, 2020, 12:22 AM

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We are aware

flat bone Nov 7, 2020, 12:22 AM

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Im not finished

terse lava Nov 7, 2020, 12:22 AM

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Alright

flat bone Nov 7, 2020, 12:23 AM

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Human fighter jets are named after swords

unique rune Nov 7, 2020, 12:23 AM

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~~Human vehicles are named after animals except when they aren't~~

flat bone Nov 7, 2020, 12:23 AM

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Like the broadsword and saber

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So not all human vehicles are named after animals

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I dont know why i needed to say that

humble yacht Nov 7, 2020, 12:32 AM

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Terrestrial vehicles have the animal name scheme, while space vehicles seem to be named for weapons

cedar surge Nov 7, 2020, 12:33 AM

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I think that's only the halberd and fighters

terse lava Nov 7, 2020, 12:47 AM

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Point is though, human things are named after animals/weapons, covenant items after supernatural things, and forerunner after just practicality

cedar surge Nov 7, 2020, 12:55 AM

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Well it matches the factions personality

terse lava Nov 7, 2020, 1:09 AM

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Indeed

main hill Nov 7, 2020, 1:46 AM

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All I’m saying is strapping a 105mm artillery gun to warthog ain’t a bad idea. If they can do it to a humvee, they can do it a warthog.

glossy sorrel Nov 7, 2020, 1:54 AM

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500 years and they still use gasoline, bruh moment

fringe robin Nov 7, 2020, 1:55 AM

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warthogs run on hydrogen

glossy sorrel Nov 7, 2020, 1:55 AM

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also covenant vehicles are named after synonyms for ghosts, while unsc vehicles are named for an animal that they resemble

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which is why the warthog should be called a puma

cedar surge Nov 7, 2020, 1:56 AM

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Warthogs don't run on gasoline

glossy sorrel Nov 7, 2020, 1:56 AM

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it sounds like it

fringe robin Nov 7, 2020, 1:56 AM

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they run on basically water

glossy sorrel Nov 7, 2020, 1:56 AM

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also there are jerry cans on the back

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hydrogen is not water my friend

cedar surge Nov 7, 2020, 1:56 AM

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Those cans are full of water

glossy sorrel Nov 7, 2020, 1:57 AM

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ok...

cedar surge Nov 7, 2020, 1:57 AM

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The warthog runs on water

fringe robin Nov 7, 2020, 1:57 AM

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hydrogen is extracted from the water my friend

glossy sorrel Nov 7, 2020, 1:57 AM

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no its a land vehicle

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it cant run on water

fringe robin Nov 7, 2020, 1:57 AM

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🙄

glossy sorrel Nov 7, 2020, 1:57 AM

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it has wheels and it will sink

cedar surge Nov 7, 2020, 1:57 AM

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Says who?

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You know

fringe robin Nov 7, 2020, 1:57 AM

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it was a bad attempt at a joke

glossy sorrel Nov 7, 2020, 1:57 AM

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also please use the term "puma"

cedar surge Nov 7, 2020, 1:57 AM

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There is a answer for this

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500 years

unique rune Nov 7, 2020, 1:58 AM

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In all this discussion over naming
I feel like
it's just important to mention

names like Ghost, Wraith, Banshee, etc. are all UNSC names for said vehicles
the Covenant's names for them are almost certainly quite different

glossy sorrel Nov 7, 2020, 1:58 AM

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yeah probably

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if you noticed the actual names for covenant species are different from what humans call them

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such as the sangheili (elites wort), jiralhane (brutes), san shyuum (prophets), kig yar(jackals), unggoy (grunts)

west silo Nov 7, 2020, 2:02 AM

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Well the elites also call them that

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Soo it just there names

main hill Nov 7, 2020, 2:05 AM

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Covenant names are named after mythical beasts or insects while human vehicles for the most part named after animals while aircraft are named after swords

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Unless your ground support

unique rune Nov 7, 2020, 2:06 AM

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how many times have we gone through this song and dance today

fringe robin Nov 7, 2020, 2:06 AM

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human vehicles for the most part named after animals while aircraft are named after swords
Humans have insect names too for aircraft. The Wasp and the Honey Bee

main hill Nov 7, 2020, 2:06 AM

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So like the sparrow hawk, vulture, hornet, falcon are all close air support so they are named after birds or flying things

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Oh I wasn’t finished

fringe robin Nov 7, 2020, 2:07 AM

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oh sorry

main hill Nov 7, 2020, 2:07 AM

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Essentially baseline is Covenant vehicles are named after creatures that have to do mythology while human vehicles usually have to do with human objects or regular animals

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Also it’s okay

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Like the Locust and Scarab are actual insects but they do have a lot to do with mythology

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Aight I’m done

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Also covenant weapons are all type-number. They don’t have a specified covenant name at least that I know of.

flat bone Nov 7, 2020, 2:10 AM

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I would think paranormal is a better word for mythological

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In the covenants case

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I believe locusts and scarabs have some ties with paranormal creatures

cedar surge Nov 7, 2020, 2:11 AM

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The type number is when the unsc encountered them

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The Scarabs have later numbers in the war because anyone who tried to document them shortly became glass

main hill Nov 7, 2020, 2:11 AM

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I’m going off of what I read on Halopedia so I can definitely be not giving the full details of thingsZ

unique rune Nov 7, 2020, 2:12 AM

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The numerical designations for Covenant materiel are a UNSC system, so...

main hill Nov 7, 2020, 2:13 AM

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The most common reason of new vehicles or weapons we see in halo are because usually too many people are killed by them to be documented or they were not commonly even on the battlefield until a certain point.

unique rune Nov 7, 2020, 2:14 AM

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Like. We do know the names of some ancient Covenant or Sangheili vehicles. Namely the Uztet'sKelln and QezoY'asabu which were predecessors to what the UNSC calls the Type-26 Banshee and its relatives.

cedar surge Nov 7, 2020, 2:16 AM

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Still is it that hard to take a photo of a scarab while running away

unique rune Nov 7, 2020, 2:16 AM

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So I think it's pretty clear that whatever the Covenant and its client species named their vehicles and weapons is nowhere near the UNSC's common names.

cedar surge Nov 7, 2020, 2:16 AM

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Its not like they are small

unique rune Nov 7, 2020, 2:16 AM

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Uh... glassed planets have bad records, I guess...?

main hill Nov 7, 2020, 2:17 AM

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I’m just annoyed that the Goblin is the only species specific vehicle other than the brute vehicles of course

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Like why aren’t there any Jackal vehicles

glossy sorrel Nov 7, 2020, 2:17 AM

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heavier unsc aircraft are named after birds

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like the falcon or pelican

main hill Nov 7, 2020, 2:18 AM

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Lekgolo are smart I’m sure they’d figure something out

glossy sorrel Nov 7, 2020, 2:18 AM

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but light craft like fighters are named after insects

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such as the wasp or hornet

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but they tend to name vehicles after earth animals that resemble the

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such as the puma, or scorpion

junior dome Nov 7, 2020, 4:50 AM

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Where does the firefight map Unearthed take place?

terse lava Nov 7, 2020, 5:04 AM

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On a mining site on Reach

junior dome Nov 7, 2020, 5:49 AM

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What are all the spikes in the background

terse lava Nov 7, 2020, 5:52 AM

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just the terrian

stiff creek Nov 7, 2020, 6:27 AM

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Titanium something.

versed helm Nov 7, 2020, 7:30 AM

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Spikey ores, I guess

acoustic dock Nov 7, 2020, 12:10 PM

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titanium A i think

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its what the unsc make most of their ships and vehicles out of

versed helm Nov 7, 2020, 1:11 PM

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A bit weird that they just let those spikes sit there to decorate the landscape, then

cedar surge Nov 7, 2020, 1:32 PM

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Why would you destroy the good view

slim thorn Nov 7, 2020, 3:50 PM

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Or maybe that place can't be mined

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I recall that one of the Titanium Mine was closed because of the discovery of the Forerunner Artifacts

shut oyster Nov 7, 2020, 5:49 PM

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you're kidding me warthogs run on water!

gilded mason Nov 7, 2020, 5:55 PM

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They do, yes.

west silo Nov 7, 2020, 6:06 PM

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It's in the forza game trailer

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Well the warthog showcase

west silo Nov 7, 2020, 6:26 PM

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Question is the methane wagon in wars 2 canon?

cedar surge Nov 7, 2020, 7:26 PM

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All troops and vehicles are except for explicitly said to not be

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Like m echa Johnson

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Or ripa

shut oyster Nov 7, 2020, 7:29 PM

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weird how they include the sound of an combustion engine for the vehicles

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but hey the jump to huydrogen fuel cells is a nice move to renewable energy usage

jolly furnace Nov 7, 2020, 7:54 PM

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Question - this is written on ancient humanity's article on Halo wiki. - The energy weapons used by the Prehistoric human soldiers appear to shatter their targets like glass upon impact. Where is this ever seen in Halo 4 terminals?

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I recall nothing like that, not even a forerunner gettin hit by an AH weapon shot in them

stable flower Nov 7, 2020, 8:07 PM

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The Golden Methane Hydrate Mines of Sabator sounds like something out of a children's story.

jolly furnace Nov 7, 2020, 8:11 PM

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It probably is

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Cos its almost certainly not on the Ark if real

cedar surge Nov 7, 2020, 8:35 PM

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I think its from the HF war shown in halo 4

west silo Nov 7, 2020, 8:57 PM

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Am pretty sure it just over penetrates there armor

jolly furnace Nov 7, 2020, 8:59 PM

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I don't we see any forerunner even gettin hit by an AH weapon in them

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Only AHs gettin hit

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and the AH armor was useless in those terminals

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They were gettin one-shotted by forerunners

west silo Nov 7, 2020, 9:39 PM

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Was it just me or was there a rapid fire binary rifle in one of the cutscenes

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Or maybe it was a rapid fire light rifle

jolly furnace Nov 7, 2020, 10:03 PM

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the terminals use models of forerunners weapons in 4 for forerunner soldiers but use different effects when shot

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Like a binary rifle is seen firing a sustained blue beam of energy

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as is another type of weapon not seen in game

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most forerunner weapons in the terminals are firing a sustained blue beam

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like a sentinel

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beam

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weapon

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others fire rapid blue bolts of energy like a machine gun

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would fire bullets

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another is fired like a boltshot charged blast in 4 but with blue energy

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and the weapon is a rifle

west silo Nov 7, 2020, 10:28 PM

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And a binary rifle has a stun mode

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That's actually pretty smart

jolly furnace Nov 7, 2020, 10:34 PM

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It does

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???

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Dunno how one can achieve that when it fires streams of antimatter at a person

west silo Nov 7, 2020, 10:42 PM

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The librarian uses one to put the didact to sleep

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Unless that's just artistic liberties

jolly furnace Nov 7, 2020, 11:04 PM

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its a different gun in Silentium

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so terminal visual is inaccurate

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Also it didn't happen on the MA I think

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I'm not sure

shut oyster Nov 7, 2020, 11:17 PM

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What ammo/ projectiles are the forerunner weapons shooting?

cedar surge Nov 7, 2020, 11:30 PM

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Hardlight

jolly furnace Nov 7, 2020, 11:36 PM

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depends - they use hardlight, plasma, antimatter depending on weapon

alpine helm Nov 7, 2020, 11:43 PM

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Chief should have killed locke in H5

fair hazel Nov 7, 2020, 11:44 PM

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Ionized particles

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No he shouldn't have

alpine helm Nov 7, 2020, 11:45 PM

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But chief is a spartan 2 which could kill any spartan 4

gilded mason Nov 7, 2020, 11:45 PM

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Why do you want John to kill Locke?

alpine helm Nov 7, 2020, 11:45 PM

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And the only person that can match him is noble 6

gilded mason Nov 7, 2020, 11:45 PM

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uh

unique rune Nov 7, 2020, 11:45 PM

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So... are you also one of those people who thinks-
Oh boy.

gilded mason Nov 7, 2020, 11:45 PM

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lol

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of course

alpine helm Nov 7, 2020, 11:46 PM

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Uh oh

fair hazel Nov 7, 2020, 11:46 PM

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Yep nova..

alpine helm Nov 7, 2020, 11:48 PM

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I don't want my gold privileges gone

unique rune Nov 7, 2020, 11:48 PM

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See, I was gonna ask if you also thought Spartan-IIIs were worse than Spartan-IIs in every aspect, and I cannot help but suspect that the Noble 6 bit only confirmed that...

alpine helm Nov 7, 2020, 11:49 PM

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What did it confirm 😰

west silo Nov 8, 2020, 12:02 AM

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Any ways the suppresser rifle in the book is different from the one in game right?

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Because in the book its more like a field that can lift people and affect ais but in game its just a reskined AR

cedar surge Nov 8, 2020, 12:09 AM

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Well it could lift you back into oblivion

west silo Nov 8, 2020, 12:10 AM

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Tell that to faber

jolly furnace Nov 8, 2020, 12:15 AM

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AI suppressors are not Suppressor Rifles

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Constrait fields are what lift people

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Warrior servants carry 2 constraint fields

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ones like didact's are built into armor it seems

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Only way i can explain his telekinesis without neural physics

slim thorn Nov 8, 2020, 12:42 AM

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Forerunner Suppressors is like an MG weapon that was made for suppression.

west silo Nov 8, 2020, 1:46 AM

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The needler isn't based off a of forerunner tech right

stiff creek Nov 8, 2020, 1:46 AM

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Nope.

gilded mason Nov 8, 2020, 1:46 AM

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Right

west silo Nov 8, 2020, 1:46 AM

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That's really impressive

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Doctor halsey couldn't even figure out how the thing fire be it didn't have a firing mechanism or something

gilded mason Nov 8, 2020, 1:48 AM

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It did, she just didn't know how it connected to anything

west silo Nov 8, 2020, 1:48 AM

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And people say the covenant aren't innovative

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Well the elites aren't

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I am never letting that go

gilded mason Nov 8, 2020, 1:49 AM

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hmmmmmmmmmmm

west silo Nov 8, 2020, 1:49 AM

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Barnssssss

gilded mason Nov 8, 2020, 1:49 AM

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shush you poop

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And people say the covenant aren't innovative
And to be honest, when people say that, they always forget what Halsey says right after it.

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Which was several paragraphs of talking about how scarily intelligent the Covenant are.

west silo Nov 8, 2020, 1:50 AM

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Basically its only the covenant religion that gimped them

gilded mason Nov 8, 2020, 1:50 AM

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Yeah

west silo Nov 8, 2020, 1:51 AM

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The whole tinkering with forerunner tech is heresy

gilded mason Nov 8, 2020, 1:51 AM

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Yeah. Though at least influential people are able to do so without reprisal.

west silo Nov 8, 2020, 1:51 AM

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Wasn't it found that the covenant were barely using there energy projectors at full power

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Because heresy

gilded mason Nov 8, 2020, 1:52 AM

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Like all those Sangheili engineers that made unique weaponry all while prophets higher up shook their fists

west silo Nov 8, 2020, 1:52 AM

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To change an already perfect design

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It's still weird that a elite made genuine Spartan armor

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But cant build a barn

gilded mason Nov 8, 2020, 1:53 AM

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Cause Kilo-5 is more like, uh...Kilo-...Bad

west silo Nov 8, 2020, 1:54 AM

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Man how did 343 get the 2 best and worse star wars authors

gilded mason Nov 8, 2020, 1:54 AM

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I know, right lol

west silo Nov 8, 2020, 1:54 AM

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And both of them have a rivalry

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Jedi v mandilorians

gilded mason Nov 8, 2020, 1:54 AM

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Though I think some people might say Timothy Zahn is the best SW author.

west silo Nov 8, 2020, 1:55 AM

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Never really read that many star wars books

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Only the boba fett books

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Those were cool

versed helm Nov 8, 2020, 2:37 AM

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Do/Did we ever seen any more of Fireteam Majestic outside of spartan ops, and past the events of Halo 4?

Just came to mind, as something I was curious to hear about.

stiff creek Nov 8, 2020, 2:45 AM

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We do.

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And it's pretty cool.

#

Sadly, ||De Marco sacrificed himself to save Hood, Arby, and a Chieftan||, along with Fireteam Jackknife.

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They're all remember on a plaque aboard the Infinity.

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Majestic have been a bunch of neat missions.

west silo Nov 8, 2020, 2:58 AM

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Thorn nearly went out like daisy because he forgot his suit had shields

stiff creek Nov 8, 2020, 3:12 AM

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Kek

versed helm Nov 8, 2020, 3:36 AM

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Sadly, ||De Marco sacrificed himself to save Hood, Arby, and a Chieftan||, along with Fireteam Jackknife.
@stiff creek

Wow. Where can I get ahold of this material?

unique rune Nov 8, 2020, 3:37 AM

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The Escalation comic series.

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As a whole, it's... not particularly good.

versed helm Nov 8, 2020, 3:37 AM

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Escalation! I’ve heard about that particular series from several friends of mine.

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Sort of a mixed bag, but I’d still be interested in giving it a try.

cedar surge Nov 8, 2020, 3:44 AM

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72 hours is probably the worst part

west silo Nov 8, 2020, 3:55 AM

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It literally felt little them trying to throw away the last remnants of 4

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Oh hey remember the villian from 4 who seemingly died in the end?
Well goods news he's alive!!!!
Oh wait no we killed him in the same issue

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But don't worry he's still alive!!!
Just never going to be mentioned in any future material ever again

craggy sierra Nov 8, 2020, 3:58 AM

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Tbh I don’t know why that was worth doing. They could’ve said nothing and most people would’ve assumed he was dead anyways.

west silo Nov 8, 2020, 3:58 AM

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Pretty much

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It's like the ending of the janus key arc

#

It has huge build up

cedar surge Nov 8, 2020, 3:58 AM

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Then nothing

west silo Nov 8, 2020, 3:58 AM

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But literally went nowhere

cedar surge Nov 8, 2020, 3:58 AM

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Because if halsey did get it

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Then everybody would already be digging their graves

#

It would have been like the created

west silo Nov 8, 2020, 3:59 AM

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As she said in ops

She could solve all the worlds problems

cedar surge Nov 8, 2020, 4:00 AM

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sure she could

west silo Nov 8, 2020, 4:00 AM

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I don't think halsey would make something like the created

cedar surge Nov 8, 2020, 4:00 AM

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Totally doesn't sound like arrogance

west silo Nov 8, 2020, 4:00 AM

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I meant jokingly

cedar surge Nov 8, 2020, 4:00 AM

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Actually you think they are ever going to bring that planet back up?

#

Tge one the librarian showed halsey with a bunch of forerunner stuff

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Surrounded by a cage

west silo Nov 8, 2020, 4:01 AM

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And had a forerunner fleet

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And a bunch of design seeds

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And had moon sized factories

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Nope

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If it did either it goes boom!!!!
Or who ever is using it has already won

versed helm Nov 8, 2020, 4:04 AM

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hi

west silo Nov 8, 2020, 4:05 AM

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Your alive??

versed helm Nov 8, 2020, 4:05 AM

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yes

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i dide in a cutsence

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cant type well

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my first time playng halo 3 i played halo 2 and ce

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dont know what to expect

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also i relly like halo lore and history

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like the forerunners

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and acient humans

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its amazing

versed helm Nov 8, 2020, 6:52 AM

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Why was Spartan Locke wearing master chiefs 117 suite

#

And are we able to get another halo pest rip rookie

versed helm Nov 8, 2020, 9:34 AM

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Shearing, as in?

carmine sleet Nov 8, 2020, 9:41 AM

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Also what's Halo Pest?

stiff creek Nov 8, 2020, 11:12 AM

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I think his phone autocorrected ODST.

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Which is kinda funny.

versed helm Nov 8, 2020, 11:24 AM

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Pre-emptively Embarrassed Super Troopers

#

PESTs

sage imp Nov 8, 2020, 11:35 AM

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XD

flat bone Nov 8, 2020, 12:59 PM

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I didn’t know chiefs hotel suite was a sheep

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Or that Spartan Locke was a shearer

#

Do you think Spartans think of retiring and living on a farm

cedar surge Nov 8, 2020, 1:09 PM

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For Spartan 2s and 3s mostly no

#

For 4s yes

flat bone Nov 8, 2020, 1:09 PM

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I could see Johnson living on a farm

sage imp Nov 8, 2020, 1:20 PM

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srry if this is a stupid question

#

But why does spartan 4 have social ability and are more "human" than the rest of spartans

flat bone Nov 8, 2020, 1:27 PM

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For one most Spartan 2’s and 3’s were kidnapped

stiff creek Nov 8, 2020, 1:29 PM

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And put through a bunch of years of training.

cedar surge Nov 8, 2020, 1:32 PM

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The IVs are war vets who actually lived normal lives before bevoming Spartans

stiff creek Nov 8, 2020, 1:36 PM

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I wouldn't call all of them veterans.

cedar surge Nov 8, 2020, 1:58 PM

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Oh yea

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There are some who got in through other means

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Like that average marine who became a 4 because of nepotism

slim thorn Nov 8, 2020, 2:05 PM

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Or someone who was recommended by the others like Jun recommends Alpha-Nine even before the Rookie's passing.

versed helm Nov 8, 2020, 2:14 PM

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IIs and IIIs were brought up to be murderers, while the IVs were above average soldiers

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who were then made even more above average

shut oyster Nov 8, 2020, 4:17 PM

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spartan 2s were children from genetically superior families, kidnapped and replaced with clones, pumped with chemicals to genetically enhance them and then the survivors of the experiment were kitted with expensive top of the line armour and were super soldiers

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spartan 3s were orphans who showed promise and may not have been genetically superior than the 2s but were trained and pumped with chemicals which was more effective than the last time and had a decreased chance or mortality but I think on the whole they are weaker than the 2s because of this. they were kitted out with cheaper, still versatile armour and still sent on important missions but I guess were more expendable than the last since they are on the whole cheaper and easier to deploy

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spartan 4s were elite/top adult soldiers that joined the programme and were fitted with advanced armour and I don't think they were pumped with chemicals. The armour is lighter and pretty strong but not sure how it compares to the 2s

unique rune Nov 8, 2020, 4:31 PM

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pumped with chemicals to genetically enhance them
Spartan-II augmentations were more mechanical than chemical.

but I think on the whole they are weaker than the 2s because of this
Spartan-III augmentations are stated to have been just as effective as those of the -IIs.

I don't think they were pumped with chemicals.
Spartan-IV augmentations still seemed to have a chemical element but primarily differ in their extensive use of organ implants and modification.

The armour is lighter and pretty strong but not sure how it compares to the 2s
GEN2 armor is as a whole meant to be superior to GEN1, able to bring a Spartan-IV up to parity with a Spartan-II in GEN1

rustic canyon Nov 8, 2020, 4:34 PM

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spartan 2's are possibly the strongest of them all but had the greatest risks. They had the minds for tactics and understood things plus their armor was built essentiall for them. 3's were expendable just orphans who are angry and can do the suicide runs which sucked but they only got the really dangerous things cause Jurt didn't want to have them keep dying so drugs that make them super strong and not invincible but when the one has his chest wide opened and is still fighting is horrific 4's is maybe the best in terms of survivorability but as Halsey said they aren't entirely spartans but what they lack in the augments of the previous they make up for with sheer numbers and they have the experience factor compared to the others.

cedar surge Nov 8, 2020, 4:43 PM

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Jurt

unique rune Nov 8, 2020, 5:45 PM

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jorts

stark hinge Nov 8, 2020, 8:04 PM

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Jort jort jort

shut oyster Nov 8, 2020, 8:39 PM

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wortwortwort

main hill Nov 8, 2020, 9:05 PM

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Weird question, but do ya’ll think the UNSC still uses towed artillery.

cloud trellis Nov 8, 2020, 9:38 PM

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wait so are marines and navy different in the UNSC?

gilded mason Nov 8, 2020, 9:39 PM

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The Marine Corps and the Navy are different branches, yes.

cloud trellis Nov 8, 2020, 9:40 PM

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so like marines become odst's

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and then spartans if they are good enough

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Navy just stick to ship controls

gilded mason Nov 8, 2020, 9:40 PM

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Spartan IIs/IIIs were part of the Navy

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IVs are their own group

carmine sleet Nov 8, 2020, 9:40 PM

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Don't need to be an ODST to be recruited to be a Spartan IV and like Ostral said, Spartans are their own branch

cloud trellis Nov 8, 2020, 9:41 PM

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oh you just apply from where ever

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to become a IV

carmine sleet Nov 8, 2020, 9:41 PM

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You don't apply to be an IV

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They come to you

gilded mason Nov 8, 2020, 9:41 PM

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It's more like they seek you out

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Yeah

cloud trellis Nov 8, 2020, 9:41 PM

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Is there a wiki page for this info

gilded mason Nov 8, 2020, 9:41 PM

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https://www.halopedia.org/United_Nations_Space_Command

carmine sleet Nov 8, 2020, 9:41 PM

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Halopedia is your friend

cloud trellis Nov 8, 2020, 9:41 PM

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I was reading Cole protocal

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and this info came up

gilded mason Nov 8, 2020, 9:42 PM

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Halopedia answers a whole lotta people's questions that get posted here

cloud trellis Nov 8, 2020, 9:42 PM

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awesome thanks for wiki

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excited to see who gray team are

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alright tell me your favorite halo books

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ITS AN ORDER

slim thorn Nov 8, 2020, 9:50 PM

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Don't need to be an ODST to be recruited to be a Spartan IV and like Ostral said, Spartans are their own branch
@carmine sleet Even the retirees can be recruited like Dutch and Gretchen

carmine sleet Nov 8, 2020, 9:50 PM

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Didn't need to tag me and Dutch and Gretchen being recruited doesn't change the fact you don't need to be an ODST to be recruited

slim thorn Nov 8, 2020, 9:51 PM

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Sorry, didn't delete it when quoting ye

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So Olympia can be an example for that?

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She was from ONI and not from Marines nor ODST

cloud trellis Nov 8, 2020, 9:51 PM

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who are these people

gilded mason Nov 8, 2020, 9:52 PM

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Characters from Halo

slim thorn Nov 8, 2020, 9:52 PM

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who are these people
Who?

carmine sleet Nov 8, 2020, 9:52 PM

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Vale's an interesting one, given she wasn't recruited because of the reasons other S-IVs were

cloud trellis Nov 8, 2020, 9:52 PM

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I only know blue team, Osiris, sabre, katana and another group from gamma company

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and tom and lucy

gilded mason Nov 8, 2020, 9:52 PM

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Never played ODST?

carmine sleet Nov 8, 2020, 9:52 PM

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Vale is part of Osiris

cloud trellis Nov 8, 2020, 9:53 PM

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right right

slim thorn Nov 8, 2020, 10:07 PM

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Buck once part of Osiris, now he's back to his old squad Alpha Nine

west silo Nov 8, 2020, 10:10 PM

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Vale potential feels kinda wasted

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She is pretty the perfect sangheli diplomat

humble yacht Nov 8, 2020, 10:11 PM

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Vale would be great as a diplomat but unfortunately diplomacy wouldn't be a very fun game

west silo Nov 8, 2020, 10:11 PM

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Looks at mass effect

humble yacht Nov 8, 2020, 10:11 PM

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Imagine: Halo 7 - Treaty Signing

west silo Nov 8, 2020, 10:11 PM

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Mass effect does that pretty good

humble yacht Nov 8, 2020, 10:12 PM

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mass effect is an rpg that largely has been panned for its gameplay

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halo is kinda on the opposite end of the spectrum: not-so-amazing story with stellar gameplay

west silo Nov 8, 2020, 10:13 PM

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What do you mean not so amazing story

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Do you want to explode

humble yacht Nov 8, 2020, 10:14 PM

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halo games in the story department have been entertaining, yes, but not oscar winners

west silo Nov 8, 2020, 10:14 PM

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Aren't those for movies?

humble yacht Nov 8, 2020, 10:15 PM

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it's a metaphor

west silo Nov 8, 2020, 10:15 PM

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If you ask me it's the characters that make a great story

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Look at the last of us

humble yacht Nov 8, 2020, 10:16 PM

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The point i'm making is that most halo players want tight, fast, fun gameplay over everything else

west silo Nov 8, 2020, 10:16 PM

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That story is pretty standard

humble yacht Nov 8, 2020, 10:16 PM

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while ME players expect riveting narrative over everything else

west silo Nov 8, 2020, 10:16 PM

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Looks at all the complaints about 5
You sure bout the fast gameplay?

humble yacht Nov 8, 2020, 10:16 PM

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"30 seconds of gameplay" lol

west silo Nov 8, 2020, 10:17 PM

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Mass effect 3 and andromeda gameplay was pretty solid

humble yacht Nov 8, 2020, 10:17 PM

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look at ME Andromeda: lame story, best gameplay for a ME game

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overall, flopped

west silo Nov 8, 2020, 10:17 PM

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I think it was how the game shipped

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My face is tired

humble yacht Nov 8, 2020, 10:17 PM

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Now look at H4. people love to talk about it like it killed the franchise

west silo Nov 8, 2020, 10:18 PM

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Glitches everywhere

humble yacht Nov 8, 2020, 10:18 PM

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i think it had the best narrative of any halo. but the mp and the gameplay are what people seem to focus on

west silo Nov 8, 2020, 10:18 PM

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And then in 5 they focus mainly on gameplay

humble yacht Nov 8, 2020, 10:19 PM

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Now could an Halo work as an RPG with dialogue choices and an emphasis on diplomatic relations, with Vale as a center character? Maybe

west silo Nov 8, 2020, 10:19 PM

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Boy yes

humble yacht Nov 8, 2020, 10:19 PM

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but it would be a niche game, most likely, probably would sell worse than Halo Wars

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it would be a different type of game from the FPS titles we expect

west silo Nov 8, 2020, 10:20 PM

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Dude the made a arcade halo game exclusive only on America

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I don't think they would care at this point

humble yacht Nov 8, 2020, 10:20 PM

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who's "they"

west silo Nov 8, 2020, 10:21 PM

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343 or Microsoft

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Who ever is in charge

humble yacht Nov 8, 2020, 10:25 PM

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i mean, they'd care about how well a game is expected to perform

west silo Nov 8, 2020, 10:26 PM

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Yeah

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But they kinda released a game that wouldn't make that much money especially since it released in only one region and most of the fans wont even get to play it

humble yacht Nov 8, 2020, 10:29 PM

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i'm pretty sure game devs don't see revenue from every quarter spent on the arcade game

west silo Nov 8, 2020, 10:29 PM

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Doesn't that help my point

humble yacht Nov 8, 2020, 10:30 PM

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also the game has gone international

west silo Nov 8, 2020, 10:30 PM

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Really?

humble yacht Nov 8, 2020, 10:30 PM

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so it's not just one region anymore

hollow dirge Nov 8, 2020, 10:56 PM

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Oh this would be a great place for me to post this

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1L5f9AN9F3KiaFQlYWQxFn3H_kpAtQ68Z93keqQzk1ck

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So basically, I categorized every known spartan on a spreadsheet

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And, I noticed, we have too many spartan IIs

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I had to cut I think at least 5

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2 from expanded universe (legends, comics) and 3 from the TV show

rich aspen Nov 8, 2020, 10:58 PM

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I like it

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However I would note that I think roughly 30 Spartans fully survived augmentations

hollow dirge Nov 8, 2020, 10:58 PM

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33

rich aspen Nov 8, 2020, 10:58 PM

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And quite a few of the ones that died were revived

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So 40ish including the disfigured ones makes sense

hollow dirge Nov 8, 2020, 10:58 PM

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Supposedly, I know some of the dead ones were intended to be revived, but there's no known examples of them

rich aspen Nov 8, 2020, 10:59 PM

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Red team from halo wars

hollow dirge Nov 8, 2020, 10:59 PM

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They were wash outs, not KIAs

rich aspen Nov 8, 2020, 10:59 PM

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Omega team as well

hollow dirge Nov 8, 2020, 10:59 PM

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I have them labeled as one of the 12 Spartans that were disfigured but rehabilitated

rich aspen Nov 8, 2020, 10:59 PM

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By died I mean the ones who died during augmentations

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Those were washouts but some were revived

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Like omega n stuff

hollow dirge Nov 8, 2020, 11:00 PM

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Washout means they were crippled/disfigured during augmentations, not the ones who died

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Here I wrote up a full list somewhere....

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Oh, I guess that line was too big to post

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By 2 line breaks

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There's two tabs, Active Spartan IIs, and Full Spartan IIs

Full includes every spartan ever mentioned, canon or not.
Active includes only the spartans that survived augmentation, both disfigured and healthy, and with mentions besides legends, with exception to Maria who was only mentioned in the graphic novels, and had both retired and started a family, something I considered too big of a stretch for canon to allow.
The list therefore contains a total 45 Spartans IIs, 11 who were disfigured by augmentation (5 of which were rehabilitated and returned to service), and 34 healthy Spartans.
You might notice that according to the fall of reach, 12 were disfigured and 33 were healthy, and you're right, one spartan on the list was was a washout that returned to active duty, but there are no sources that can help me decide who.
The rows are color coded, red for killed during HCW, white for after, orange for during Reach (or Onyx). Green for confirmed alive and active, blue for disfigured, purple for actually MIA.
The Status is prioritized for HCW, so you'll notice some MIAs that were later recovered then KIA'd, except for Red Team
Other data you might find interesting:
15 spartan IIs confirmed alive currently
7 Killed during HCW, +1 MIA
11 killed during or just after Reach
5 killed after HCW
6 unknown status (excluding MIA)
There were 16 female, and 29 male spartans

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There we go, better

cloud trellis Nov 8, 2020, 11:57 PM

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@hollow dirge isn't kurt kia

cedar surge Nov 9, 2020, 12:03 AM

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To oblivion yea

slim thorn Nov 9, 2020, 12:14 AM

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Linda was using Argus-class GEN 2 suit

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List of Blue Team's Armor (Halo 5 event)

Linda (Argus-class GEN 2)
Kelly (Hermes-class GEN 2)
Fred (CENTURION-class GEN 2)
John-117 (Standard Mark-VI GEN 2)

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For the Red Team, they use Mark IV Hybrid GEN 2

gritty portal Nov 9, 2020, 12:23 AM

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Anyone read ghosts of onyx

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???

cedar surge Nov 9, 2020, 12:24 AM

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No

gritty portal Nov 9, 2020, 12:26 AM

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It's such a good halo book, they should make it a movie I swear, what lore halo stuff have ya read

cedar surge Nov 9, 2020, 12:29 AM

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Well most of what I got is either from halo canon,installation 00,a bit from Xperia,a lot from halopedia and some from SoR

gritty portal Nov 9, 2020, 12:31 AM

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Nice nice

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Xperia makes good videos, and halo canon has that dope halo reach fan series

west silo Nov 9, 2020, 12:32 AM

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Reach was an inside job

stiff creek Nov 9, 2020, 12:33 AM

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non

west silo Nov 9, 2020, 12:33 AM

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Shall

gritty portal Nov 9, 2020, 12:34 AM

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Lol

inner basin Nov 9, 2020, 12:42 AM

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Xperia makes good videos, and halo canon has that dope halo reach fan series
I think you meant HaloFollower? If HaloCanon were to do one, I’d imagine he’d try make one that can fit into the lore

gritty portal Nov 9, 2020, 12:43 AM

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Yea my bad

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Xperia series is dope

cloud trellis Nov 9, 2020, 1:38 AM

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i finished GoO few days back

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its one of the better books

stiff creek Nov 9, 2020, 2:45 AM

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Goo

cloud trellis Nov 9, 2020, 2:50 AM

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Yes Ghost of ONyx ala Goo

hollow dirge Nov 9, 2020, 3:12 AM

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So i was thinkin bout the lore
Spartan IIIs are superior to Spartan IIs in almost every way except armor
(and the psychology side effects of their training)
That's because they were intended to be sort of expendable, so they spent less money on them by giving them SPI instead of Mjolnir
So why did they have better training and augmentations if they were expendable?
Well, the ODSTs are kind of the same way
They are better trained than regular marines, but like the SIIIs, were often sent on suicide missions
Just something to think about whenever you hear someone say the S3s are just walmart brand S2s

unique rune Nov 9, 2020, 3:17 AM

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They had better training to increase their survivability in spite of everything stacked against them. Plus it was just building on lessons learned from the SPARTAN-II program.

Better augmentations were just a result of tech advancements. CHRYSANTHEMUM was cheaper and safer than the mechanical augmentations of Project ASTER, meaning lower unit cost.

rustic canyon Nov 9, 2020, 3:25 AM

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I would also call their training less superior. spartan III's were orphans and given training yes but spartan II's were molded and effectively turned into the ultimate soldier training wise. III's had anger and drive for revenge against the covenant.

cedar surge Nov 9, 2020, 3:28 AM

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Wasn't it said 3s got better training to make up for cheaper augmentations?

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Like Kurt saying they put them through hell

gilded mason Nov 9, 2020, 3:28 AM

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to make up for cheaper augmentations?
Don't think so about this specific part

unique rune Nov 9, 2020, 3:33 AM

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I would also call their training less superior.
Except it... wasn’t, though?

Like it’s flat out supposed to be an improvement over the Spartan-II training program... developed in part by a Spartan-II.

rustic canyon Nov 9, 2020, 3:34 AM

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they got training but they were also meant to be cheaper and expendable.. and their augments kind of evolved between the different companies as they figured out what worked and didn't work. You have mostly teenagers who had lost their families and were angry... they got plenty of trainning yes but these weren't 6 year olds taken and raised by the military and when they were twelve taking out marine squads.

hollow dirge Nov 9, 2020, 3:36 AM

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The 3s had better training AND augmentation

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Only the armor was cut short

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But yes they did have anger issues which kind of made things a bit different

unique rune Nov 9, 2020, 3:36 AM

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I mean.
Is that not what the whole “training” thing is supposed to compensate for?

It’s not like the Spartan-IIs were the pinnacle, model soldier when they were 6.

That’s why they went through years of preparation to shape them into the ideal soldier. The Spartan-IIIs really weren’t all that different.

hollow dirge Nov 9, 2020, 3:37 AM

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The 3's augmentations had more data to go off of. Not only did the mortality rate decrease from 50% to near 0%, but they also had better results

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I believe they had stronger bones and better natural night vision among other things

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Installation00 did a whole breakdown of both augmentations and compared them, the 3s were better in almost every way

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The 4s are actually the best, because that generation allowed them to be applied to adults, whereas 2 and 3 required children based on data from the S1s

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The problem with S4s though is they lacked the training the S2s and S3s had. Instead of years of military and academic training, they're just chosen based on ever decreasing standards

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Wow I can say the S word, I a server based around an M rated game. Lame.

cedar surge Nov 9, 2020, 3:43 AM

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Well they were war vets
most of em

hollow dirge Nov 9, 2020, 3:44 AM

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Anyways, I was saying that the first class of S4s were basically war heroes, but as time went one the standards dropped so low you got Majestic, a fireteam so terrible I wouldn't even call them soldiers

unique rune Nov 9, 2020, 3:47 AM

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I mean.
Majestic really wasn’t that bad.

Writing Madsen into the S-IV program as a result of nepotism may not have been the best of ideas though.

cedar surge Nov 9, 2020, 3:49 AM

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Yea that wasn't a point in the 4s favour there

hollow dirge Nov 9, 2020, 4:02 AM

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I can't decide of Majestic acts like a bunch of bored army privates stuck on FOB duty, or just your standard sports bros wannabe soldiers

craggy osprey Nov 9, 2020, 4:03 AM

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I'm just mad Fireteam Crimson didn't play a major role beyond gameplay.

hollow dirge Nov 9, 2020, 4:03 AM

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While the 2s and 3s were a lot less human given their background, 4s were normal people and would totally be as unprofessional as Majestic was, but anyone who's been through basic wouldn't run out of cover to try and act like a BA with a shotgun

grand iris Nov 9, 2020, 4:22 AM

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I'd love to see more of Crimson Team. They are pretty badass

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Think Blue team will absorb Tom-B292 and Lucy B-091 again if they need more members?

stiff creek Nov 9, 2020, 4:35 AM

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I feel like Lucy would be awkward to have for gameplay.

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But that'd be cool.

cedar surge Nov 9, 2020, 4:40 AM

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How would she be awkward?

grand iris Nov 9, 2020, 4:43 AM

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Would adding Ash-G099, Olivia-G291 and Mark-G313 be overkill or have them as a seperate detachment of Blue team since with all of them it would be a total of 9 members?

gritty portal Nov 9, 2020, 4:44 AM

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Olivia was a cool spartan

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But sad

grand iris Nov 9, 2020, 4:44 AM

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What's sad?

gritty portal Nov 9, 2020, 4:45 AM

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Her back story

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Is she the silent one

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Or is that lucy

grand iris Nov 9, 2020, 4:45 AM

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If i remember Lucy could not speak for a long time cause of the trauma of Operation Torpedo

gritty portal Nov 9, 2020, 4:47 AM

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Yes thats her

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It was sad what happened to the beta company of spartan 3

grand iris Nov 9, 2020, 4:49 AM

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I mean counting out the 298 who were KIA in Torpedo there are 120 still out there

cedar surge Nov 9, 2020, 4:58 AM

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Well out of anger Lucy can talk again

grand iris Nov 9, 2020, 5:16 AM

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Noble Team and Blue Team are the only known cross gen spartan teams so far?

craggy sierra Nov 9, 2020, 5:17 AM

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There’s a bunch of Spartan 3’s that have gotten spattered in with Spartan 4’s but nothing specific is really known there.

stable flower Nov 9, 2020, 5:31 AM

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Why'd the UNSC give the Umbra it's name? Don't they know that's Latin for "shadow"?

unique rune Nov 9, 2020, 6:00 AM

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I mean... so what?

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It lines up with the other Covenant ground transport craft being called the Shadow.

Not like redundancy matters for UNSC designations considering ghosts, spectres, wraiths, banshees, spirits, phantoms, etc. are all closely related concepts.

versed helm Nov 9, 2020, 6:01 AM

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Why do the UNSC have poetic sounding ship names

unique rune Nov 9, 2020, 6:05 AM

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Because whoever comes up with them thinks they sound cool

versed helm Nov 9, 2020, 6:15 AM

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So are the Precursors gods or no?

spice fable Nov 9, 2020, 6:47 AM

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No

stable flower Nov 9, 2020, 7:28 AM

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I mean... so what?
@unique rune It could lead to confusion. That's what.

unique rune Nov 9, 2020, 7:29 AM

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But it’s not like Latin is the standard language of the UNSC.

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English is by and large the dominant language within the UEG, and, yeah, sure, umbra translates to shadow, but when spoken in regular conversation, if I say “umbra” someone else probably isn’t going to get it confused for saying “shadow” even if they mean the same thing.

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And, again, a pretty big chunk of human designations for Covenant vehicles have really similar meanings.

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To the point that I could use “ghost” or “phantom” pretty much interchangeably and it wouldn’t make much of a difference in regular conversation.

So why is that not an issue for clarity?

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If anything I’d argue that using similar terms for colloquial designations is might even be better for quick identification. If I’ve never heard of a Covenant Umbra before, but I’m aware that the word itself is similar to shadow, and I’m already familiar with the Covenant Shadow, then it would probably make sense that the Umbra is a craft that has a similar function.

versed helm Nov 9, 2020, 9:22 AM

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Can humans infected by the Flood survive in space?

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idk

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good questions

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because the flood are still living organisms so i would say no! but there are a lot of possibilities how they could survive?

grand iris Nov 9, 2020, 9:57 AM

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What are some of the operations that Crimson team did? Didn't get the chance to play spartan ops during the flight

slim thorn Nov 9, 2020, 10:06 AM

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The Campaign on Requiem is where we play as Crimson Team

obsidian python Nov 9, 2020, 1:48 PM

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I have a question

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Why is the Gravemind a disney princess when we first meet them in Halo 2?

slim thorn Nov 9, 2020, 1:51 PM

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Wuh?

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He's a devil

obsidian python Nov 9, 2020, 1:51 PM

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He rhymes everything he says

cedar surge Nov 9, 2020, 2:40 PM

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You would too if you had to deal with a lazy monitor for the last 100 thousand years

normal shard Nov 9, 2020, 2:43 PM

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Cortana actually asks him that same question, aside from the disney princess part. He said he has access to the minds of a thousand poets, and that humanity would never understand any of it. I think it implies the Precursors ability to have a sort of external dimension of knowledge that the gravemind can tap into, or something.

smoky glen Nov 9, 2020, 3:37 PM

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Cortana actually asks him that same question, aside from the disney princess part. He said he has access to the minds of a thousand poets, and that humanity would never understand any of it. I think it implies the Precursors ability to have a sort of external dimension of knowledge that the gravemind can tap into, or something.
@normal shard he can tap into the domain, like all precursors

normal shard Nov 9, 2020, 3:37 PM

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Ah, that's right, my bad

smoky glen Nov 9, 2020, 3:38 PM

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He is kinda off a precursor, depends if you see them as corrupted precursors or follow the theory by Installation 00 where the flood is the Precursors as they are meant to be

normal shard Nov 9, 2020, 3:39 PM

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Gotcha, yeah, sorry for the sloppy answer.

cloud trellis Nov 9, 2020, 3:47 PM

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is fireteam majestic that bad?

cedar surge Nov 9, 2020, 3:49 PM

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Like college students in power armor

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I don't think they are this bad from what I remember of SO

cloud trellis Nov 9, 2020, 3:50 PM

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oh they in a game

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which S IV's are in the books

slim thorn Nov 9, 2020, 4:02 PM

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Crimson was Majestic's rival during Requiem Campaign, much to their ranting at early episodes

humble yacht Nov 9, 2020, 4:04 PM

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Crimson was you

slim thorn Nov 9, 2020, 4:11 PM

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Ye, and Majestic's rival was Crimson.

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Early episodes, Palmer like somehow teasing Majestic as Crimson (players) manages to pull off several heavy fires

gritty portal Nov 9, 2020, 5:10 PM

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Yooo

cloud trellis Nov 9, 2020, 6:40 PM

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alright finished cole protocol

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pretty good

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8/10

west silo Nov 9, 2020, 7:19 PM

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Really

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I heard that must people aren't really a fan of it

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Too boring I think

unique rune Nov 9, 2020, 7:30 PM

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I remember enjoying The Cole Protocol. Made Grey Team’s return in Envoy more fun.

versed helm Nov 9, 2020, 7:34 PM

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So when was the Grotto of the Great Transition built?

cedar surge Nov 9, 2020, 7:36 PM

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Transition?

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Is that something for when the covenant started?

versed helm Nov 9, 2020, 7:43 PM

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https://www.halopedia.org/Grotto_of_the_Great_Transition

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This thing

carmine sleet Nov 9, 2020, 7:45 PM

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During the time of the Forerunners

jolly furnace Nov 9, 2020, 7:47 PM

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That's the place where the bas-relief of san'shyuum and humans is I think

versed helm Nov 9, 2020, 8:28 PM

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Anyone remember that unknown race that sent that signal into space then subsequently got wiped out by the Halo Array pulse

gilded mason Nov 9, 2020, 8:28 PM

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Yup

versed helm Nov 9, 2020, 8:31 PM

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Sucks that we never got to learn more about them before they were wiped out

west silo Nov 9, 2020, 8:38 PM

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They were obviously the tau

versed helm Nov 9, 2020, 8:39 PM

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I know I asked this before but I can't help but wonder, what race attacked Crecka in the System of Miasmic Giants

jolly furnace Nov 9, 2020, 8:42 PM

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We dunno

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Could be someone we know or not

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They may not even be around anymore

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I'd love to know what Forerunnner pop culture was like

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Like we have movies, shows, memes, anime, video games, literature etc

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music

humble yacht Nov 9, 2020, 9:00 PM

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forerunners enjoyed hats

fair hazel Nov 9, 2020, 9:01 PM

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You rememberde that

brisk geode Nov 9, 2020, 9:02 PM

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⬆️ FACTS⬆️

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Like we have movies, shows, memes, anime, video games, literature etc
@jolly furnace Forerunnners are like egiptians

brisk geode Nov 9, 2020, 9:19 PM

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Is there lika a massive halo?

jolly furnace Nov 9, 2020, 9:20 PM

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@jolly furnace Forerunnners are like egiptians
@brisk geode In what way?

brisk geode Nov 9, 2020, 9:22 PM

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Just use common sense

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@jolly furnace

humble yacht Nov 9, 2020, 9:23 PM

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all halos are massive

brisk geode Nov 9, 2020, 9:23 PM

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@humble yacht I know but no no like a very massive one

humble yacht Nov 9, 2020, 9:23 PM

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not anymore

hearty escarp Nov 9, 2020, 9:23 PM

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^

brisk geode Nov 9, 2020, 9:23 PM

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Don't spoil I haven't played 4

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I only need to play 4 and infinite

jolly furnace Nov 9, 2020, 9:24 PM

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Just use common sense
@brisk geode Excuse me?

cedar surge Nov 9, 2020, 9:31 PM

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Well franco

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Before the rings there are now there was a array before that

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Zeta halo was apart of the array and was even more massive

west silo Nov 9, 2020, 9:32 PM

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How are the forerunners Egyptians

brisk geode Nov 9, 2020, 9:33 PM

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@brisk geode Excuse me?
@jolly furnace Ok long text coming in

cedar surge Nov 9, 2020, 9:33 PM

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Before the flood took it and the didact took it back and cut it down

west silo Nov 9, 2020, 9:33 PM

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They come off more as space elve

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Who look like space voldemorts

cedar surge Nov 9, 2020, 9:33 PM

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Dwemer from elder scrolls?

west silo Nov 9, 2020, 9:34 PM

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Never played elder scrolls

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Sadly

cedar surge Nov 9, 2020, 9:34 PM

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Advanced tech and all dead or deformed

west silo Nov 9, 2020, 9:34 PM

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That's sounds like it

brisk geode Nov 9, 2020, 9:38 PM

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@jolly furnace So basically the ancient egypts let so many questions for the past egypts and now in the present day we have even more questions, so what I am saying Forerunner=ancient egypts, Promethean forces=past egypt.
This is just a historical theory
But it can also be a coincidence, so at the end of the day, we are left with so many questions, this also includes the precussors

west silo Nov 9, 2020, 9:39 PM

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So the forerunners are Egyptians because they leave questions?

brisk geode Nov 9, 2020, 9:39 PM

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Yes

west silo Nov 9, 2020, 9:39 PM

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I am confused

brisk geode Nov 9, 2020, 9:39 PM

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Me too

west silo Nov 9, 2020, 9:39 PM

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Wouldn't that also make everyone Egyptians

brisk geode Nov 9, 2020, 9:40 PM

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Yeah

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U are right

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on target

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Congrats

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Actually no bro

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Hold on

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The forerunner created the humans

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So as you said evryone is Egyptians, but in this case forerunner

stiff latch Nov 9, 2020, 9:41 PM

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the precursors created humans and forerunners

unique rune Nov 9, 2020, 9:42 PM

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This train of thought gets less and less coherent the longer it continues.

brisk geode Nov 9, 2020, 9:42 PM

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The only thing the precussors created was the flood

stiff latch Nov 9, 2020, 9:42 PM

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no

brisk geode Nov 9, 2020, 9:42 PM

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Yeah bro they were just atoms

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The precussors wren't inteligent

stiff latch Nov 9, 2020, 9:43 PM

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"The Precursors were responsible for seeding the Milky Way with life, creating the galaxy's diverse composition of species to become "new tools and companions", and engineered millions of solar systems. Over time, they would also judge whether a species was worthy of the Mantle, their assumed role of guardianship of all life. The humanoid species native to the world of Ghibalb, who would come to be known as the Forerunners, were next chosen for this task. Originally created by the Precursors to serve as their assistants and adjutants,[7] the Forerunners were eventually judged to be unworthy of taking on the Mantle and planned to be wiped out[13], and the Precursors instead decided that the responsibility would fall on the shoulders of another of their creations; a collection of species referred to as humanity, hailing from the planet known as Erde-Tyrene."

https://www.halopedia.org/Precursor#History

brisk geode Nov 9, 2020, 9:43 PM

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Yeah the big bang

humble yacht Nov 9, 2020, 9:44 PM

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I’m pretty sure you’re conversing with a troll at this point

west silo Nov 9, 2020, 9:44 PM

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They were so intelligent they could make stuff using the universe

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Even tho they saw it as alive

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Isn't that basically making a car out of a dog when you think of it

brisk geode Nov 9, 2020, 9:44 PM

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The precussors are broken

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Ok leaving this theory appart

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Let's go back

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Zeta halo was apart of the array and was even more massive
@cedar surge Ok, now, do you think Infinite will take place in one of these?

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Is the only "Ring" we saw with life in it

west silo Nov 9, 2020, 9:51 PM

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It's basically confirmed

humble yacht Nov 9, 2020, 9:51 PM

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more than basically

west silo Nov 9, 2020, 9:51 PM

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Nope every ring we've been on had life on it

brisk geode Nov 9, 2020, 9:51 PM

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Not normal life

humble yacht Nov 9, 2020, 9:51 PM

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Delta Halo had birds and fish

west silo Nov 9, 2020, 9:51 PM

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We literally were on it in the gameplay demo

brisk geode Nov 9, 2020, 9:52 PM

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How big is going to be infinite

humble yacht Nov 9, 2020, 9:52 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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find out when the game launches

brisk geode Nov 9, 2020, 9:52 PM

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Is kinda open world actually

west silo Nov 9, 2020, 9:52 PM

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Same size as everyone

cedar surge Nov 9, 2020, 9:52 PM

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Well it got cut down to be similar size to other new rings

brisk geode Nov 9, 2020, 9:53 PM

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I think we are going to destroy all the rings in infinite

west silo Nov 9, 2020, 9:53 PM

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Nah

cedar surge Nov 9, 2020, 9:53 PM

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When has chief hasn't

west silo Nov 9, 2020, 9:53 PM

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We barely destroyed too

cedar surge Nov 9, 2020, 9:53 PM

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1 2 and 3

brisk geode Nov 9, 2020, 9:53 PM

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But I mean every single one

cedar surge Nov 9, 2020, 9:53 PM

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Including escalations

humble yacht Nov 9, 2020, 9:53 PM

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Chief didn't destroy Gamma Halo

cedar surge Nov 9, 2020, 9:54 PM

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Oh right

west silo Nov 9, 2020, 9:54 PM

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Not from the lack of tryin

humble yacht Nov 9, 2020, 9:54 PM

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he didn't try

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he and the monitor made a surgical move

west silo Nov 9, 2020, 9:54 PM

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He did remove a huge part of it tho

humble yacht Nov 9, 2020, 9:54 PM

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not huge at all

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a small chunk

brisk geode Nov 9, 2020, 9:54 PM

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I am telling u we are ending the job in that game

cedar surge Nov 9, 2020, 9:54 PM

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Well Cortan a did want a nova bomb strike on the ring

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So the rings in 2 and escalations

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Are those just under cortana control now?

west silo Nov 9, 2020, 9:56 PM

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Well the one in escalations is with the monitor

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So no

brisk geode Nov 9, 2020, 9:57 PM

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Infinite is going to be a big big game with big big explosions

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We don't destroy any Rings in 2

So the rings in 2 and escalations
@cedar surge

west silo Nov 9, 2020, 10:01 PM

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True delta is fine

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And gamma is undergoing repairs

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Wait shouldn't gamma have gone to the ark

humble yacht Nov 9, 2020, 10:02 PM

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No

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The ark replaces, it doesn’t repair

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Halos have their own repair systems

slim thorn Nov 9, 2020, 10:09 PM

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Damaged Halos and the cause:

Delta Halo (Glassing by the Sangheili to contain Flood Outbreak)
Gamma Halo (Blue Team vs Didact)
Anders Halo (A section ejected or scuttled to drive out Banished)

humble yacht Nov 9, 2020, 10:10 PM

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Anders is on the new Alpha Halo

cedar surge Nov 9, 2020, 10:11 PM

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Shouldn't have delta attacked the SoS for glassing it?

slim thorn Nov 9, 2020, 10:11 PM

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Yeah, but it's named Anders Halo

humble yacht Nov 9, 2020, 10:12 PM

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Not by the forerunners

slim thorn Nov 9, 2020, 10:12 PM

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Oh, you mean just Installation 09 then?

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Shouldn't have delta attacked the SoS for glassing it?
Peningent probably can't do anything since the outbreak was too much to handle.

humble yacht Nov 9, 2020, 10:13 PM

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Installation number refers to when it was made

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Greek lettering refers to firing order

slim thorn Nov 9, 2020, 10:13 PM

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Not to mention 05's monitor was captured by the Gravemind.

west silo Nov 9, 2020, 10:18 PM

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The ark attacked the EC without a monitor

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Maybe it's because the glassing didn't do any damage to piece the surface of the ring

humble yacht Nov 9, 2020, 10:19 PM

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Didn’t the ark need Isabel to coordinate the sentinels against the banished?

west silo Nov 9, 2020, 10:19 PM

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No