#lore-and-universe | Halo | Page 430

flat bone Oct 30, 2020, 6:27 PM

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probably not

stiff creek Oct 30, 2020, 6:38 PM

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Nah

cedar surge Oct 30, 2020, 6:56 PM

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Probably not anything bigger than a warthog

west silo Oct 30, 2020, 7:13 PM

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How heavy is a elephant?

unique rune Oct 30, 2020, 7:15 PM

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very

west silo Oct 30, 2020, 7:16 PM

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Like a scorpion is 66 tons

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So maybe 120 ?

unique rune Oct 30, 2020, 7:17 PM

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Halopedia has it listed at 205 tonnes.

west silo Oct 30, 2020, 7:20 PM

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So 4 Spartans then

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In gen3

haughty nest Oct 30, 2020, 8:43 PM

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Right so were the spartan ones like normal sized humans

humble yacht Oct 30, 2020, 8:46 PM

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yes

west silo Oct 30, 2020, 9:04 PM

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Yeah bet you couldn't tell Johnson was a supersoldier

wispy wasp Oct 30, 2020, 9:41 PM

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Isn't Johnson a spartan 1.1?

nimble crest Oct 30, 2020, 9:41 PM

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Yes

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Orion

wispy wasp Oct 30, 2020, 9:45 PM

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How much stronger is gen 3 compared to mark IV?

unique rune Oct 30, 2020, 9:48 PM

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Isn't Johnson a spartan 1.1?
No, Johnson was just part of ORION-I/SPARTAN-I. The so-called 1.1s were children of ORION subjects.

cedar surge Oct 30, 2020, 9:53 PM

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He was part of class two of orion

wispy wasp Oct 30, 2020, 9:53 PM

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I guess i mixed being in the 2nd wave with being a child of an orion

cedar surge Oct 30, 2020, 9:54 PM

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The entire first class died

vague scroll Oct 30, 2020, 9:56 PM

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well of course they died, the first phase of Orion took place 200 years before the events of the Halo games

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Orion Phase 2 took place at the height of the Insurrection, by the time of the Halo games - Johnson was well into his seventies

stark hinge Oct 30, 2020, 10:14 PM

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Question: Guys, me and my friend has been wondering this for long but...how do Sangheili taste food, if they decide to eat?

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I mean, they don't have tongues.

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But if they eat food, how do they ever taste them without a tongue?

echo nebula Oct 30, 2020, 10:14 PM

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They have a tiny tongue

flat bone Oct 30, 2020, 10:15 PM

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like butterflies

stark hinge Oct 30, 2020, 10:15 PM

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A teeny tiny tongue?

flat bone Oct 30, 2020, 10:15 PM

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with their teeth maybe

gilded mason Oct 30, 2020, 10:15 PM

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They do

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Fairly large ones

stark hinge Oct 30, 2020, 10:15 PM

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But no one can see it?

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And if you inspect their mouths, you just see a hole.

gilded mason Oct 30, 2020, 10:16 PM

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They're usually tucked in their throat area

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You see their tongues in concept art

stark hinge Oct 30, 2020, 10:16 PM

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Ohhh.

west silo Oct 30, 2020, 10:16 PM

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Well they just didn't add it to the ingame model

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It like how OG elites had a big space hole in there mouth

stark hinge Oct 30, 2020, 10:17 PM

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I see...

west silo Oct 30, 2020, 10:17 PM

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Could the elites even close there mouths in halo CE and 2

echo nebula Oct 30, 2020, 10:18 PM

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Their tongues are like dog p-p's

stark hinge Oct 30, 2020, 10:19 PM

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Seems like I finally know the truth...thanks guys!

stark hinge Oct 30, 2020, 11:14 PM

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Are Sangheili tongues long too? Just a quick Q.

gilded mason Oct 30, 2020, 11:21 PM

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https://i.pinimg.com/originals/cf/e4/a7/cfe4a76ffe9f9c5d30bc99e4660c3944.jpg

stark hinge Oct 30, 2020, 11:22 PM

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Oh oki. Lemme do some deep research on this one. Thank you!

terse lava Oct 30, 2020, 11:44 PM

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what's with the odd topic on sangheili toungues?

cedar surge Oct 30, 2020, 11:54 PM

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If they could taste

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Its a wonder they can eat anything

craggy sierra Oct 31, 2020, 12:00 AM

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Huh, they actually do have them.

west silo Oct 31, 2020, 12:01 AM

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So is arbiters halo 5 design canon

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The armor is cool and I have no problem with it

bronze terrace Oct 31, 2020, 12:01 AM

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It’s pretty dope

west silo Oct 31, 2020, 12:02 AM

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Am talking about how his mouth evolved to try and eat his entire head

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And how he somehow became another sangheli type

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What did they call them again?

gilded mason Oct 31, 2020, 12:08 AM

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Grim said it is not

craggy sierra Oct 31, 2020, 12:19 AM

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Who’s grim?

gilded mason Oct 31, 2020, 12:19 AM

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The man, the myth, the legend: GrimBrotherOne

west silo Oct 31, 2020, 12:29 AM

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You don't know grim?

terse lava Oct 31, 2020, 12:37 AM

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Ostral breaks into a parody song of Who is Professor Hawk

stable flower Oct 31, 2020, 12:49 AM

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Ever notice how ships look bigger on the inside?

craggy sierra Oct 31, 2020, 12:52 AM

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That’s map design for ya

jolly furnace Oct 31, 2020, 1:12 AM

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Writers have no sense of scale

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desiginers have no sense of scale

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Precursor space magic

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Forerunner technology

vague scroll Oct 31, 2020, 1:18 AM

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it's easier to critique than to create

jolly furnace Oct 31, 2020, 1:20 AM

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Yah

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It was simply for gameplay purposes

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POA and FUD were canonically to small to adhere to their sizes for levels

craggy sierra Oct 31, 2020, 1:27 AM

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Honestly this is just accepted stuff in gaming

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Like ever since Jabu Jabu in Ocarina of time we’ve just made peace with non-euclidian space.

marble aurora Oct 31, 2020, 1:41 AM

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At least Halo ship design isn’t completely horrid. Mass Effect ships have too much unused empty space. Lol

west silo Oct 31, 2020, 2:05 AM

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Ever saw the destiny's ascension

cedar surge Oct 31, 2020, 2:16 AM

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Or in halo 2 where chief is inside the CAS and the Reactor probably only takes a third of all that space in the head

west silo Oct 31, 2020, 2:30 AM

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So there are a bunch of design seeds buried at the ark

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Hmm I wonder what this could mean

versed helm Oct 31, 2020, 2:42 AM

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The Ishimura and the Valor are also trippy af ships

west silo Oct 31, 2020, 2:42 AM

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Well they are mining ships

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Made to lift huge chucks of planets with gravity anchors

versed helm Oct 31, 2020, 2:53 AM

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I mean the vents. How can a ship have so many vents?

west silo Oct 31, 2020, 3:01 AM

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Need that good oxygen

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And it did have alot of civilians on it for some reason

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And police force

craggy roost Oct 31, 2020, 4:25 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/classic-halloween-skeletons-dancing-gif-4516836

versed helm Oct 31, 2020, 4:29 AM

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Still man. WAAAAY too many vents. No wonder they got rekt

cedar surge Oct 31, 2020, 4:49 AM

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So wait

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The halo rings rings wipe everytjing out not on the ark or inside a shield world

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But at Etran harborage the flood were on the outside and survived

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And the inside looks relatively untouched by flood

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So they couldn't have hidden inside

west silo Oct 31, 2020, 4:51 AM

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The running theory is that they escaped quarantine on the shieldworld

cedar surge Oct 31, 2020, 4:51 AM

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Why would they keep flood on the shieldworld

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There isn't monitors to do experiments there

west silo Oct 31, 2020, 4:52 AM

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But then the question is why it there are a flood lab on a shield world

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Exactly

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We don't know

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And probably will never know

cedar surge Oct 31, 2020, 4:52 AM

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It probably would have been a good idea to keep flood labs separate from everything else

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For example

west silo Oct 31, 2020, 4:53 AM

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Having them on a halo was bad enough

cedar surge Oct 31, 2020, 4:53 AM

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Not on a weapon of mass destruction

west silo Oct 31, 2020, 4:53 AM

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Imagine keeping them somewhere where civilians are supposed to bunker down

cedar surge Oct 31, 2020, 4:54 AM

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The flood labs should have been separate structures at least outside the galaxy

west silo Oct 31, 2020, 4:54 AM

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Well if ot escaped it would be harder to control

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Because you know it's outside the galaxy

cedar surge Oct 31, 2020, 4:54 AM

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It has a lot less options to slread

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Since its you know outside the galaxy

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Not a porta life there last time I heard

west silo Oct 31, 2020, 4:55 AM

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We know the forerunners are outside the galaxy

cedar surge Oct 31, 2020, 4:55 AM

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Unless another super duper ancient empire wants to show up

west silo Oct 31, 2020, 4:55 AM

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Well what's left

cedar surge Oct 31, 2020, 4:55 AM

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So their empire was multiple galaxies?

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Wait no

west silo Oct 31, 2020, 4:56 AM

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They left remember

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Because farmers!!!

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Well born and his family did

cedar surge Oct 31, 2020, 4:56 AM

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Actually why didn't they leave any AI to do clean up duty on flood left in the galaxy?

west silo Oct 31, 2020, 4:57 AM

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That was the plan

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Remember Mendicant

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He was in charge of the flood operations

cedar surge Oct 31, 2020, 4:57 AM

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Wasn't that OB who beat OB

west silo Oct 31, 2020, 4:57 AM

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But got turned and gave all the forerunners Intel and secrets to the flood

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Before they knew ais could be infected

cedar surge Oct 31, 2020, 4:58 AM

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Maybe you shouldn't just leave your AI in the middle of nowhere

west silo Oct 31, 2020, 4:58 AM

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They didn't

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It stole the ring and disappeared

cedar surge Oct 31, 2020, 4:58 AM

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Oh

west silo Oct 31, 2020, 4:59 AM

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They tried to find it for years

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And when it arrived

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Well the capital went bye bye

cedar surge Oct 31, 2020, 5:02 AM

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Who knows how much flood is still left in the galaxy

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Probably millions to billions

west silo Oct 31, 2020, 5:02 AM

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Now?

cedar surge Oct 31, 2020, 5:03 AM

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Well there is the case EH was a exceptoon

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But yea

west silo Oct 31, 2020, 5:03 AM

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As in free or in quarantine?

cedar surge Oct 31, 2020, 5:03 AM

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Free

west silo Oct 31, 2020, 5:03 AM

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Am pretty sure everything would be dead

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Like as a gravemind was built

cedar surge Oct 31, 2020, 5:04 AM

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Actually didn't the Flood in HW have enough biomass for a gravind?

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They seemed to have a lot of forces

west silo Oct 31, 2020, 5:04 AM

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Well only proto

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They need intelligent lifeforms

cedar surge Oct 31, 2020, 5:05 AM

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So would anything like Eye scanners and fingerprint things and stuff like that

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Wouldn't the flood go through that pretty easily

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They managed to regen regret

west silo Oct 31, 2020, 5:07 AM

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I don't think they could get through those without force

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The hosts DNA is kinda you know floody

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And the flood mutates the body to a pretty far degree

versed helm Oct 31, 2020, 8:12 AM

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I guess the flood could regen a body, if it doesnt corrupt the DNA too much

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But that's highly unlikely

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Since this is the flood

versed helm Oct 31, 2020, 9:01 AM

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imagine if the flood and corona had a race

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lol

stark hinge Oct 31, 2020, 9:16 AM

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2021 is gonna write about that

peak veldt Oct 31, 2020, 9:29 AM

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Is there any lore sample for a Spartan being a medic?

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From what I seen, they all know first aid.

Randomly wondering if any character gone full healer.

glacial turtle Oct 31, 2020, 9:40 AM

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What is the protocol for if a Spartan gets infected?

peak veldt Oct 31, 2020, 11:34 AM

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According to some Hidden Xperia video I saw, they just instantly nuke the area if a Spartan gets Flood infected.

flat bone Oct 31, 2020, 11:34 AM

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They also set up teams to kill the infected spartan

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i think

versed helm Oct 31, 2020, 11:39 AM

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It would have to be some very OP units, to hunt and kill a flooded Spartan

cedar surge Oct 31, 2020, 11:58 AM

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Don't have to send other Spartans to kill a Spartan when you could just nova the planet

tropic forge Oct 31, 2020, 12:05 PM

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@glacial turtle CORRUPTER

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https://www.halopedia.org/CORRUPTER

versed helm Oct 31, 2020, 1:11 PM

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Only 2 NOVAs till date

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And reking a whole planet is overkill

slim thorn Oct 31, 2020, 1:27 PM

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Commission a CCS-Battlecruiser and glass it

versed helm Oct 31, 2020, 1:34 PM

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A 4 man hit squad ought to be enough

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but they better be heckin Blue Team lvl

stiff creek Oct 31, 2020, 1:45 PM

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MAC round.

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In atmosphere.

versed helm Oct 31, 2020, 2:22 PM

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Might as well have a ship jump into slipspace in the planet's atmosphere

stiff creek Oct 31, 2020, 2:32 PM

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Solemn Penance 2: Slipspace Boogaloo

cedar surge Oct 31, 2020, 3:04 PM

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Sure is a good thing no covenant remember CASs being able to do that

stiff creek Oct 31, 2020, 3:06 PM

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I wonder how many CAS carriers survived the war.

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Probably too many.

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I wish we knew more about CSO's.

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I don't like how we only know of one.

slim thorn Oct 31, 2020, 4:09 PM

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There is another one, Hammer of Faith. But it was destroyed during construction by Blue Team

cedar surge Oct 31, 2020, 4:57 PM

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Probably a few thousand

jolly furnace Oct 31, 2020, 5:05 PM

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I have to wonder how effective a SPARTAN infected person would be to Flood. I know combat forms use up their energy relatively quickly and break down

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I suppose it depends on how the Flood uses the body.

cedar surge Oct 31, 2020, 5:08 PM

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Well its a pretty strong body

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But other aliens are stronger

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Their main strength would be speed

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Spartan flood form barreling down the hallway after you thing

versed helm Oct 31, 2020, 5:16 PM

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I'd say the main asset of a SPARTAN is knowing how to use all these strengths together to complete an objective.
A mindless SPARTAN combat form may be faster or stronger or have a tougher shell, but it lacks the ability to use its strengths in the most effective manner possible.

cedar surge Oct 31, 2020, 5:20 PM

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Also

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Strategy

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A flood Spartan will just charge at you swiping

fair hazel Oct 31, 2020, 6:10 PM

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Sometimes I want to do a reading marathon where I just read a halo book a day

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But that'd take lots of time and lots of days

versed helm Oct 31, 2020, 6:21 PM

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Well, it is the lockdown

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It is here, anyways

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In India

cedar surge Oct 31, 2020, 6:47 PM

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That sounds like a good way to get burnt out fast

stable flower Oct 31, 2020, 7:02 PM

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Like I said, I'd rather smooch Little Moe with the gimpy leg

dire oriole Oct 31, 2020, 7:26 PM

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Question: is there a limit to how many graveminds there can be

gilded mason Oct 31, 2020, 7:28 PM

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Nope. Though they'll all be the same entity.

dire oriole Oct 31, 2020, 7:28 PM

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Cool

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Thx

terse lava Oct 31, 2020, 8:18 PM

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I imagine though with precursor funk, the minds if the dust precursors could be thrown in as separate entities

cedar surge Oct 31, 2020, 8:35 PM

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Could there ever be too many gravemind?

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That's a whole lot of them to divide your mind into

gilded mason Oct 31, 2020, 8:35 PM

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Never. Never too many Graveminds. =)

west silo Oct 31, 2020, 8:44 PM

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I don't know the more the merrier

cedar surge Oct 31, 2020, 8:56 PM

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Gravemind rave

inner basin Oct 31, 2020, 9:09 PM

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Count me out

unique rune Oct 31, 2020, 9:10 PM

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Ravemind

inner basin Oct 31, 2020, 9:16 PM

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Crab Rave starts playing

west silo Oct 31, 2020, 9:46 PM

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I have a question how does solute work

humble yacht Oct 31, 2020, 9:49 PM

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it dissolved dead biological material into its base molecular components

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thus preventing ecological disaster after firing the Halos

cedar surge Oct 31, 2020, 9:50 PM

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Well wouldn't the planet just become bare since it was a planet sized keymind

humble yacht Oct 31, 2020, 9:51 PM

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that's what reseeding helped with

west silo Oct 31, 2020, 10:05 PM

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But how did they spread it to every planet?

gilded mason Oct 31, 2020, 10:05 PM

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Automation over a long amount of time

west silo Oct 31, 2020, 10:05 PM

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And how long after the halo firing did the ships reseed the worlds

humble yacht Oct 31, 2020, 10:07 PM

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i'm sure it was a long process that took many years

terse lava Oct 31, 2020, 10:24 PM

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It took 100 years at least according to Promises to Keep

slim thorn Oct 31, 2020, 10:54 PM

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UwU Lockdown~~~ I probably want to dig more from Phoenix Logs

flat iron Oct 31, 2020, 11:32 PM

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Sure you can have plenty of graveminds, but probably not on the same planet, that's a keymind

west silo Nov 1, 2020, 1:02 AM

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Wouldn't there be a bunch of graveminds on a Keymind?

slim thorn Nov 1, 2020, 1:02 AM

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But I think 1 Gravemind was already sufficient

west silo Nov 1, 2020, 1:03 AM

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Not really

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On the small scale yes

slim thorn Nov 1, 2020, 1:03 AM

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Well... 1 at Installation 05 was Gravemind that has been living for eons

west silo Nov 1, 2020, 1:03 AM

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And being held back by the monitor less janitors

slim thorn Nov 1, 2020, 1:04 AM

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They can't go out without the containment shield broken

west silo Nov 1, 2020, 1:04 AM

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Who did a better job containing the flood than the monitor

slim thorn Nov 1, 2020, 1:04 AM

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Elites

west silo Nov 1, 2020, 1:04 AM

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Hey they kicked down the door

slim thorn Nov 1, 2020, 1:05 AM

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and they glass installation 05

west silo Nov 1, 2020, 1:05 AM

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I wonder if that ring is still there

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As in in that area

slim thorn Nov 1, 2020, 1:05 AM

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It's still there, but don't know

west silo Nov 1, 2020, 1:05 AM

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Wouldn't cortana just grab that one

slim thorn Nov 1, 2020, 1:05 AM

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Since it was stated that it was under quarantine by UNSC and Swords of Sanghelios

west silo Nov 1, 2020, 1:06 AM

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Yep cortana most likely has it under her control now

slim thorn Nov 1, 2020, 1:06 AM

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But I doubt it

west silo Nov 1, 2020, 1:06 AM

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Why?

slim thorn Nov 1, 2020, 1:06 AM

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THe ring itself was heavily damaged from the glassing

west silo Nov 1, 2020, 1:07 AM

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Nah if it was the fleet wouldn't be there

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HW2

slim thorn Nov 1, 2020, 1:07 AM

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UNSC and Sangheili won't dare to touch it

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Because the flood could be lurking somewhere

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So they establish their own quarantine zone to monitor it

west silo Nov 1, 2020, 1:09 AM

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And cortana probably knows where it is

slim thorn Nov 1, 2020, 1:09 AM

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No she won't dare to approach it as well

west silo Nov 1, 2020, 1:09 AM

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Why?

slim thorn Nov 1, 2020, 1:09 AM

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Considering she was almost completely submitted to logic plague

west silo Nov 1, 2020, 1:10 AM

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Then why take zeta halo

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Or the one in 5

slim thorn Nov 1, 2020, 1:10 AM

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Zeta Halo was most likely just recently discovered

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Or unexplored

west silo Nov 1, 2020, 1:10 AM

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The gravemind is dead

slim thorn Nov 1, 2020, 1:10 AM

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But that doesn;t mean it can't be rebuild

west silo Nov 1, 2020, 1:10 AM

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They can use the plague without one

slim thorn Nov 1, 2020, 1:10 AM

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Halo 3 and HW 2 already state it

west silo Nov 1, 2020, 1:10 AM

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Then just shoot it location

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That's on the ark

slim thorn Nov 1, 2020, 1:11 AM

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Only if they knew where it will be

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On the ark, it was close to High Charity

west silo Nov 1, 2020, 1:11 AM

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Bruh she can take if she wants

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And the fleets wont just stay at the ring because everywhere is under her control

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They'll need to get supplies somehow

slim thorn Nov 1, 2020, 1:12 AM

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Considering they have stuff like to self-sustain?

west silo Nov 1, 2020, 1:12 AM

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Only a CAS

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And other food ship

slim thorn Nov 1, 2020, 1:12 AM

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That doesn't mean Cortana can do as much as she likes

west silo Nov 1, 2020, 1:13 AM

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Looks at 5

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You sure?

slim thorn Nov 1, 2020, 1:13 AM

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That was in the beginning

west silo Nov 1, 2020, 1:13 AM

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She has control of the galaxy in the end

slim thorn Nov 1, 2020, 1:13 AM

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I mean, she can do as much as she likes, but she also needs resources

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Who knows if UNSC manages to found Guardian's weaknesses

west silo Nov 1, 2020, 1:14 AM

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She massacred a lot of people on earth

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The most heavily defended planet post war

slim thorn Nov 1, 2020, 1:14 AM

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and?

west silo Nov 1, 2020, 1:14 AM

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What weakness?

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You mean the engineer?

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That was because the Guardian didn't care

slim thorn Nov 1, 2020, 1:15 AM

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Only Infinity was able to escape while UNSC was not even ready at their own battle station

west silo Nov 1, 2020, 1:15 AM

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And wasn't awakened yet

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Fully

slim thorn Nov 1, 2020, 1:15 AM

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I was more thinking like Cortana will inadvertantly invite the Flood to return

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and it's where she can face a dilema

west silo Nov 1, 2020, 1:16 AM

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Well there are theories that she has some form of logic plague

slim thorn Nov 1, 2020, 1:16 AM

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Just need a little touch and she will submit

west silo Nov 1, 2020, 1:17 AM

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But then again she's not evil

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We just don't agree with her

slim thorn Nov 1, 2020, 1:17 AM

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I personally think that she will do that far to enforce her will

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To the point where overconfidence can cost her more

west silo Nov 1, 2020, 1:18 AM

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So do you think cortana be saved and return back to the good guys

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Personally I don't

slim thorn Nov 1, 2020, 1:18 AM

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I'd rather to have her eliminated

west silo Nov 1, 2020, 1:18 AM

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Me too

slim thorn Nov 1, 2020, 1:19 AM

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If does, she can redeem herself, yielding the mantle to John and she dispensate herself

west silo Nov 1, 2020, 1:19 AM

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Her just joining the good guys again and sweeping the whole genocide thing under the rug

slim thorn Nov 1, 2020, 1:19 AM

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I was more like she needs to go to atonement side first

west silo Nov 1, 2020, 1:19 AM

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Would be anti climatic as hell

slim thorn Nov 1, 2020, 1:19 AM

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Considering Halsey was hunted by ONI

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and she want to redeem herself by working with UNSC

west silo Nov 1, 2020, 1:20 AM

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Yes redeem her self in some way

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Then die

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Like Faber

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Or Mendicant

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If we still believe he's dead

cedar surge Nov 1, 2020, 1:49 AM

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Isn't he just in pieces

west silo Nov 1, 2020, 1:52 AM

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Well it was implied he died in 3

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Thanks to the terminals

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But other things point to him being alive so

cedar surge Nov 1, 2020, 1:55 AM

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Limbo

sinful pollen Nov 1, 2020, 2:07 AM

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I don't think it's really known if he's dead or not, there's fragments of him scattered through different places. One piece is buried in the sand on the Ark, one is on the key ship that used to be at the center of High Charity, but Truth then used to escape threw the portal on Earth to the Ark, and the other piece is believed to still be on Installation 07.

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There might be other fragments that I'm missing

west silo Nov 1, 2020, 2:07 AM

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Actually all of him is at the ark now

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The one on the keyship reunited with the one on the ark in 3

sinful pollen Nov 1, 2020, 2:08 AM

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That's only 2 pieces

west silo Nov 1, 2020, 2:09 AM

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Believe me I had the same argument sometime ago

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And it pretty much boiled down to he was split up and left on the ark

delicate notch Nov 1, 2020, 2:25 AM

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What do you think of Guillermo del Toro's spin of it when he was approached to to a movie? That MC had an evil twin

cedar surge Nov 1, 2020, 2:26 AM

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No

delicate notch Nov 1, 2020, 2:27 AM

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Yea, I never saw any reason. Felt like a spinoff idea made just for shock value. Why would they make MC the greatest solider in UNSC history in an already covert OP just to have another OP where they have hall their "evil twins" in.

gilded mason Nov 1, 2020, 2:32 AM

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Solid Chief and Liquid Chief.

delicate notch Nov 1, 2020, 2:34 AM

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Plasma Chief and Gas Chief will come to avenge

cedar surge Nov 1, 2020, 2:39 AM

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And plus if chief had a twin

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Wouldn't ONI just kidnap em too?

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They would fill out the same genetic qualifications

gilded mason Nov 1, 2020, 2:39 AM

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Nah. It'll be Solidus Chief who comes outta nowhere to stir things up.

delicate notch Nov 1, 2020, 2:49 AM

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@cedar surge Yea, exactly. The only reason I can see that ONI wanted to create an "evil twin" would be as an contingency. But that would make "Good MC" the contingency for "Evil MC" as well, so we would have known it. It wouldnt have been "Oh yea, we got a third one we call the 'if everything goes to hell'-twin"

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@gilded mason Plasma Cheif would make Solidus Chief into Liquidus Chief

versed helm Nov 1, 2020, 4:02 AM

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Bose-Einstien Condensato Chief

marble aurora Nov 1, 2020, 4:48 AM

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What do you think of Guillermo del Toro's spin of it when he was approached to to a movie? That MC had an evil twin
I’d say it’s impossible. Spartan IIs took a good decade at least to develop. You can’t just clone one. And they wouldn’t keep such an asset a secret.

craggy sierra Nov 1, 2020, 4:54 AM

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Also clones in Halo just don’t fare well.

delicate notch Nov 1, 2020, 4:58 AM

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@craggy sierra Well, they used flashclones. Do they have any "better clones"?

jolly furnace Nov 1, 2020, 4:58 AM

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Dumb idea for movie with evil twin

delicate notch Nov 1, 2020, 4:59 AM

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Sure was, but this was in like 2003-2004

craggy sierra Nov 1, 2020, 4:59 AM

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Evil counterparts were hot stuff during that era.

cedar surge Nov 1, 2020, 5:04 AM

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Evil twin is in the top ten list of generic spin offs

delicate notch Nov 1, 2020, 5:04 AM

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Idd

craggy sierra Nov 1, 2020, 5:06 AM

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Evil twin is in the top ten list of generic spin offs
@Dr.Lance#8076 careful, I can already hear the DMC fanbase screaming in the distance.

versed helm Nov 1, 2020, 5:35 AM

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DMC?

gilded mason Nov 1, 2020, 5:35 AM

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Devil May Cry

versed helm Nov 1, 2020, 5:35 AM

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Ahh

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Not played it yet

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But yeah. Hidden twin and other plots that use the principal are a bit too generic

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A good plot twist for Halo would be if ONI turns out to be in cahoots with The Banished. But only if they show it properly. Otherwise its dumb

cedar surge Nov 1, 2020, 5:42 AM

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Or

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Hear me out

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Elites on ice

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And anyway

gilded mason Nov 1, 2020, 5:42 AM

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Elites on ice```
👏 👏 👏

cedar surge Nov 1, 2020, 5:43 AM

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Ain't ONI a bit too xenophobic for that? Even when they gave weapons to keepers of the one truth it was for eradicating any elite forces

craggy sierra Nov 1, 2020, 5:46 AM

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Yeah at most ONI being in league with them would just be repeating the same thing they already tried once.

cedar surge Nov 1, 2020, 5:52 AM

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And ONI shot themselves in the foot once

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Which kinda led to new Phoenix getting composed so this wouldn't be a good idea

unique rune Nov 1, 2020, 6:14 AM

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Elites on ice
are we advocating for a Sangheili ice skating event or am I an idiot

gilded mason Nov 1, 2020, 6:16 AM

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Yes, the former

cedar surge Nov 1, 2020, 6:23 AM

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It will spawn several spin offs of its own in both inner and outer colonies

junior dome Nov 1, 2020, 7:00 AM

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What happened to Lord Hood after Halo 3?

gilded mason Nov 1, 2020, 7:01 AM

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A lotta diplomacy stuff

cedar surge Nov 1, 2020, 7:19 AM

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Blown up into a wheelchair and hiding on a remote planet

gilded mason Nov 1, 2020, 7:20 AM

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Yup

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And drunk

cedar surge Nov 1, 2020, 7:20 AM

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Probably the most important things concerning him

versed helm Nov 1, 2020, 7:21 AM

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So, Hood is now a drunk handicap

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Man, how the mighty have fallen

cedar surge Nov 1, 2020, 7:44 AM

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Was he really mighty in the first place tho?

west silo Nov 1, 2020, 8:01 AM

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Does constantly being hyperbolic count?

cedar surge Nov 1, 2020, 8:16 AM

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Mighty dramatic could count

slim thorn Nov 1, 2020, 9:19 AM

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He should have being serious on promoting chief to the admiral.

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That way he can work and keep an eye on him closely.

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Too bad it was a half-joke. If he's mandating chief with that rank, he certainly can't refuse and chief could also grant an authority to command all Spartans.

craggy sierra Nov 1, 2020, 12:27 PM

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But...why though?

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What would that accomplish?

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If anything it just sounds like they’d be pulling one of their most capable soldiers off the front lines

slim thorn Nov 1, 2020, 1:06 PM

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It was much like Hood can keep monitoring Chief at all times

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Palmer already said that the Chief does what he wants, though. So giving him higher rank shouldn't be a problem since he can do what he needs to do. Hood just need to keep an eye on him at all times.

craggy sierra Nov 1, 2020, 1:31 PM

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Hood never monitored chief to begin with

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And I don’t think slapping a different title on him would’ve stopped H5 from happening

wise hinge Nov 1, 2020, 1:33 PM

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Does chief actually die in Halo 5?

carmine sleet Nov 1, 2020, 1:33 PM

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No

wise hinge Nov 1, 2020, 1:33 PM

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relief

carmine sleet Nov 1, 2020, 1:33 PM

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What made you think he died in Halo 5?

craggy sierra Nov 1, 2020, 1:34 PM

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...we’re literally less than a year from Halo 6 and he’s been in the trailers and on the box art.

cedar surge Nov 1, 2020, 3:29 PM

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Wait what

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Its been 4 or 5 years since five

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How could have he died in 5 and comes back in infinite

warped gyro Nov 1, 2020, 4:52 PM

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Halo 5 fled from the original story

carmine sleet Nov 1, 2020, 5:12 PM

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What does "fled from the original story" even mean?

deep pewter Nov 1, 2020, 5:20 PM

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It’s means he didn’t like it so it’s bad

stoic gull Nov 1, 2020, 6:00 PM

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lmao

atomic cairn Nov 1, 2020, 6:18 PM

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yep

cedar surge Nov 1, 2020, 6:55 PM

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There ain't one singular story in halo

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So I don't really get "fled from the original story"

flat bone Nov 1, 2020, 7:00 PM

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It’s means he didn’t like it so it’s bad

west silo Nov 1, 2020, 7:10 PM

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So is the thing that the librarian did to chief ever brought up again?

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That was the most anticlimactic thing ever

flat bone Nov 1, 2020, 7:12 PM

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i don't think its brought up

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maybe when the research station gets composed?

west silo Nov 1, 2020, 7:14 PM

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The way it came off it sounded more like a power boost

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Especially with how it was locked in your genes

cedar surge Nov 1, 2020, 7:20 PM

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Where she made him composer proof?

west silo Nov 1, 2020, 7:29 PM

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Did you forget the composer scene?

carmine sleet Nov 1, 2020, 7:30 PM

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It was mainly just the Composer proof thing that she unlocked if I recall

west silo Nov 1, 2020, 7:30 PM

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Why did they have the composer immunity in the genes anyway

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When did see have the time to add that into them

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Right after didact composed the humans she went after him sealed him and went to earth to trick the gravemind

carmine sleet Nov 1, 2020, 7:32 PM

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The Librarian is an expert in genetics, far more advanced than human geneticists. She likely found some time to add in the immunity, if not gave information to one of her assistants to make the immunity

west silo Nov 1, 2020, 7:35 PM

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But why not make it active immediately?

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Did she expect her husband to try and murder everyone even before he went crazy

humble yacht Nov 1, 2020, 7:41 PM

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She accelerated the process for Chief

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It would have naturally manifested in humanity over time

short trellis Nov 1, 2020, 7:42 PM

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Hey may i ask a question

humble yacht Nov 1, 2020, 7:42 PM

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You just did 😉

short trellis Nov 1, 2020, 7:43 PM

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K well i want to use a spartan call sign in a fan fic and i want to make sure that it is not in use

vague scroll Nov 1, 2020, 7:47 PM

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check on Halopedia

carmine sleet Nov 1, 2020, 7:48 PM

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There's a list on Halopedia of all the numbers use- Distant, you beat me to it

vague scroll Nov 1, 2020, 7:48 PM

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https://www.halopedia.org/Spartan#List_of_Spartans.5Bnote_1.5D

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sorry Slip, yeah, here you go

short trellis Nov 1, 2020, 7:49 PM

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thx

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Nother Q

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is there a different designnation for Spartan Headhunters

cedar surge Nov 1, 2020, 7:59 PM

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No I don't think so

short trellis Nov 1, 2020, 8:00 PM

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k thx

jolly furnace Nov 1, 2020, 9:52 PM

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Whats this bout Composers above?

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I actually wonder why she put an immunity to it in humanity?

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Its not like she predicted her husband would go nuts and compose mankind

cedar surge Nov 1, 2020, 9:52 PM

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Composer sounds more like a disease

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With the whole immune thing

jolly furnace Nov 1, 2020, 9:53 PM

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Its also referred to as inoculation by Didact

craggy sierra Nov 1, 2020, 9:53 PM

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I think the gene song was supposed to do more than just give immunity to that.

jolly furnace Nov 1, 2020, 9:54 PM

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Yah but what

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We hoped 5 would tell us

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Nope

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Cortana even says his bio-readings were all over the map after Librarian did her thing to him

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and she didn't know what she did to him

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My guess is maybe it unlocks the possibility for ancestral memories/essences to emerge within John if he goes to places related to AH

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or say Zeta Halo

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Cos all it gave him so far was a Composer immunity

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And I have to wonder if his immunity would protect him from several composers at once hitting him

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Cos whatever she did, didn't appear to do anything else to him.

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No enhanced physical abilities

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No mental powers

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Or anything

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Basically it seems he's not going to be gaining superpowers as some think he will

west silo Nov 1, 2020, 10:26 PM

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One composer nearly killed him

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If there were prometheans nearby he'd be dead

slim thorn Nov 1, 2020, 10:32 PM

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I don't think that he got immunity against composer. More like, he got resistance against being composed

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If he does immune, he will shrug off the composer effect just like how Johnson shrug off Flood Infection. Since Chief was knocked out when the composer is composing the Ivanoff Station, he's not immune. Much more like he can resist it.

craggy sierra Nov 1, 2020, 10:45 PM

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Johnson isn’t immune to the flood

west silo Nov 1, 2020, 10:47 PM

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Didn't they straight up call it an immunity to the composer

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How in God's name is does a person become immune to be digitized?

cedar surge Nov 1, 2020, 10:47 PM

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Johnson ain't immune

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He is just a moldy bagel to the flood

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Cause of his damaged nervous system

craggy sierra Nov 1, 2020, 10:48 PM

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I don’t even think it’s that

west silo Nov 1, 2020, 10:48 PM

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It's like choosing stale pizza or fresh food

craggy sierra Nov 1, 2020, 10:49 PM

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I think Staten just retconned all potential deterrence or immunity to the flood out of the universe. I think it got changed to the flood being a cover up for his augmentations.

west silo Nov 1, 2020, 10:49 PM

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What?

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As in the infection caused his augmentations?

craggy sierra Nov 1, 2020, 10:50 PM

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No as in they just wrote down flood as the reason he recovered so quickly on his medical charts after getting back because the real reason was his augmentations.

west silo Nov 1, 2020, 10:51 PM

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So they used the flood to cover up his augmentations?

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That sounds strange

slim thorn Nov 1, 2020, 10:51 PM

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If he does immune, then he won't be knocked out by the composer

west silo Nov 1, 2020, 10:52 PM

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If the didact was immune he wouldn't have been composed

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But they call it an immunity so

slim thorn Nov 1, 2020, 11:00 PM

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And for Johnson, he has high resistance of infection because not of his augmentation, rather, it was a plasma radiation that goes into his body that grants him so.

west silo Nov 1, 2020, 11:03 PM

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No no no

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Dude that's was a lie

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Or was retconed into oblivion

craggy sierra Nov 1, 2020, 11:03 PM

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Again, I’m pretty sure Staten just wiped the board completely clean of him having any sort of deterrences or immunities.

west silo Nov 1, 2020, 11:03 PM

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Dang it the graphic novel exist

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It shows Johnson fighting his way out without being touched

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It's actually more impressive

cedar surge Nov 1, 2020, 11:16 PM

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Fighting your way out and not getting touched sounds cooler

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Nor even chief could do that

west silo Nov 1, 2020, 11:25 PM

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One flood boi with a wench almost kill chief

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I laughed reading that

cedar surge Nov 2, 2020, 12:04 AM

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Like

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Bangnig it over his head?

versed helm Nov 2, 2020, 12:11 AM

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Lmao, John and Johnson 😂

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JOHN SON

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LOL

west silo Nov 2, 2020, 12:14 AM

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Bangnig it over his head?
@cedar surge
So hard his shields broke

craggy sierra Nov 2, 2020, 12:17 AM

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Honestly shields might be less resistant to blunt force trauma than bullets.

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I’ve seen other sci-fi media with shields describe it as being a high frequency band to stop fast moving projectiles. But they’ll do very little to block just a normal sledgehammer.

flat bone Nov 2, 2020, 12:18 AM

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That would make sense for gameplay

west silo Nov 2, 2020, 12:19 AM

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You mean like mass effect?

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Because kinetic barriers

craggy sierra Nov 2, 2020, 12:19 AM

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Yeah

flat bone Nov 2, 2020, 12:19 AM

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Gravity hammers, energy swords, punches

west silo Nov 2, 2020, 12:19 AM

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Well those stop things moving at a specific speed

flat bone Nov 2, 2020, 12:19 AM

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All of them break shields

west silo Nov 2, 2020, 12:20 AM

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That's why slow moving objects bypass them

gilded mason Nov 2, 2020, 12:25 AM

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Halo shields stop even slow things. It's why they had to make the shielding extremely thin on the bottoms of their boots and on their hands.

cedar surge Nov 2, 2020, 12:31 AM

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Due to unknown phenomenon,shields stop worling as soon as they are outside of gamers and books

slim thorn Nov 2, 2020, 12:37 AM

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Because blunt object got a lot of wide area that shields needed to cover. Unlike bullets that has a small space needed to cover.

west silo Nov 2, 2020, 1:02 AM

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Are you saying a fist will do more damage than a bullet?

livid bluff Nov 2, 2020, 1:03 AM

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Ya that doesnt make sense unless they are using shields from Dune where they stop things based on fast velocity and not it's own stopping strength

cedar surge Nov 2, 2020, 1:06 AM

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Or some shields from star wars

slim thorn Nov 2, 2020, 1:09 AM

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Yep, fist will do more damage since there are more area to cover nor even to disperse

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The wider your dispersion rate, the more quicker the shield will be drained.

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If the Shadow of Intent at Halo 3 were shielded before going to glass the Prophet of Truth and gets rammed by the Flood Dispersal pods. It was shown how powerful a blunt force is.

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In common sense like your chance of breaking bones are higher when hitted by blunt force rather than being hit by the bullets or needle.

gilded mason Nov 2, 2020, 1:13 AM

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I'm pretty sure the bigger factor is amount of joules/energy exerted on the shielding

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Speed and mass are the factors here

slim thorn Nov 2, 2020, 1:15 AM

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That's one of the factors, but also the size of it must be taken into account as well

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Douglas got a fatal wound because of Atriox's uppercut with Gravity Mace.

livid bluff Nov 2, 2020, 1:15 AM

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That doesnt make sense thou. Like increasing surface area will only decrease the amount of damage inflicted

slim thorn Nov 2, 2020, 1:16 AM

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It does makes sense if it was swinging with heavy object

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Remember Fast and Furious when Tej is using Wrecking Ball?

livid bluff Nov 2, 2020, 1:19 AM

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I dont watch fast and furious lol

The question would be then if I fired a bullet with the same mass as a wrecking ball and flattened out the wrecking ball to have an enormous surface area which would hurt more?

slim thorn Nov 2, 2020, 1:19 AM

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Wrecking ball for sure

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People normally design shield to withstand or intercept small objects.

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But not for the wide ones.

livid bluff Nov 2, 2020, 1:20 AM

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Doesn't make much sense then so halos universe has devolved into magic. Great.

slim thorn Nov 2, 2020, 1:20 AM

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Not exactly magic though

livid bluff Nov 2, 2020, 1:21 AM

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Well that's not how science works at all my dude

slim thorn Nov 2, 2020, 1:21 AM

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Practically, because it has a small coverage area, the dispersion density was low

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while blunt items forces the dispersion density to go wide

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The simplest thing to be used is water

livid bluff Nov 2, 2020, 1:22 AM

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Again, doesnt make sense but cool

slim thorn Nov 2, 2020, 1:22 AM

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Maybe you can try it out later

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As far as I know, the dispersion rate for the bullet was like little or few

livid bluff Nov 2, 2020, 1:23 AM

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I dont have any halo shields handy to test it out mate haha

slim thorn Nov 2, 2020, 1:23 AM

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Cole uses MAC simultaneous attack on a Covenant Super Destroyer

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and the dispersion rate was forced to split into multiple area, draining the shield faster

livid bluff Nov 2, 2020, 1:24 AM

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See now we are all over for scale and doesnt make any more sense dude

cedar surge Nov 2, 2020, 1:33 AM

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So it would be better to flatten a Spartan with a wrecking ball than actually shooting them

west silo Nov 2, 2020, 1:35 AM

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So the brutes were right all along

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Wait a minute if the whole area is greater than centre thing is right doesn't that mean that nukes should be more effective than Mac's against covenant ships?

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But it's more Mac's better than nukes

slim thorn Nov 2, 2020, 1:59 AM

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Nuke was indeed more effective than MAC. Even PoA itself uses MAC only to deplete CCS Battlecruiser shield and finish it off with archer missiles.

cedar surge Nov 2, 2020, 1:59 AM

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Hitting a planet though

slim thorn Nov 2, 2020, 2:00 AM

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Also remember what a Grunt did when he untintentionally trigger the nuke inside the starship.

cedar surge Nov 2, 2020, 2:01 AM

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That was a nova bomb

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Ya know

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The nukes that destroys planets

stiff creek Nov 2, 2020, 2:16 AM

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Among other things

west silo Nov 2, 2020, 2:16 AM

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Am pretty sure a nuke exploding inside anything would cause alot of damage

stiff creek Nov 2, 2020, 2:16 AM

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Yes

west silo Nov 2, 2020, 2:16 AM

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Why do you think they try to get inside

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Remember trailer with the original six?

cedar surge Nov 2, 2020, 2:17 AM

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From the wording it almost sounds like a legend

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But yea the gravity lift was active

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The could have tossed it up

west silo Nov 2, 2020, 2:21 AM

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What if someone at the lift just tossed it out

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But seriously you gotta remember this is the original six the guy could have gotten out of there but just decided to look at the pretty planes

cedar surge Nov 2, 2020, 2:30 AM

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Well wouldn't you also look at pretty covenant architecture for a while?

west silo Nov 2, 2020, 2:30 AM

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Not while having a ticking bomb in my hand

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And time to get out

cedar surge Nov 2, 2020, 3:13 AM

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So why didn't they just have like a ten second countdown when they got inside

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Doing it that far away from the cruiser with a short time limit seems like a bit of a risk

versed helm Nov 2, 2020, 3:51 AM

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What if some covie chucked the bomb out in those 10 seconds?

west silo Nov 2, 2020, 3:51 AM

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Because drama!!!

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Or Kat is horrible at timing

versed helm Nov 2, 2020, 3:52 AM

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She did lose an arm along the way

west silo Nov 2, 2020, 3:52 AM

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She didn't even have a way to get aboard

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Or was she thinking the grav lift

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She did lose an arm along the way
@versed helm
Also her ability to drive aswell

versed helm Nov 2, 2020, 3:53 AM

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I guess grav lift, or she woulda chucked the bomb onto the ship

west silo Nov 2, 2020, 3:54 AM

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Man I always wonder why do the people controlling the grav lift just my turn it off?

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Imagine if the people aboard the TAR just turned off the lift when chief was half way aboard

versed helm Nov 2, 2020, 3:57 AM

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And everybody plummets to their death half way through the lift?

cedar surge Nov 2, 2020, 4:02 AM

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Well chief would have only been a few hundred feet in the air

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He survived longer distances

west silo Nov 2, 2020, 4:10 AM

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Yeah chief would be fine

waxen urchin Nov 2, 2020, 4:10 AM

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oh, why cant chief survive a 2m fall in CE?

west silo Nov 2, 2020, 4:10 AM

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Everyone else tho

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He would

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I just forgot it was that high

waxen urchin Nov 2, 2020, 4:11 AM

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I was joking but ok

cedar surge Nov 2, 2020, 4:11 AM

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The marines would go splat

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Unless chief caight a few of them on the way down

west silo Nov 2, 2020, 4:12 AM

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You know what funny and great at the same time

flat bone Nov 2, 2020, 4:12 AM

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I’ve jumped off many cliffs playing sidewinder, 2m fall won’t kill you

west silo Nov 2, 2020, 4:13 AM

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In the cutscene its more like a 500m

flat bone Nov 2, 2020, 4:15 AM

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What cutscene

west silo Nov 2, 2020, 4:15 AM

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Truth and reconciliation

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When they board the ship in CE

flat bone Nov 2, 2020, 4:16 AM

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The dont recall

stiff creek Nov 2, 2020, 4:18 AM

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Because there was Minecraft slime below Chief

west silo Nov 2, 2020, 4:19 AM

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Its funny that despite all chief's efforts in CE to stop both the covenant and the flood he ultimately would have failed

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If not for McKay

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Because if she didn't blow up the ship the flood would have infected the crew and go to earth and if that didn't work it was implied that the covenant might be able to track the ship to earth

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And chief wouldn't be able to stop it

stiff creek Nov 2, 2020, 4:23 AM

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He's just one guy.

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A big guy, but a guy nonetheless.

versed helm Nov 2, 2020, 4:23 AM

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Yeah. A lot stuff happens behind the scenes

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And it generally doeant get the attention it ought to

cedar surge Nov 2, 2020, 4:32 AM

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So yea chief didn't save the galaxy as a demigod

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Just took the credit too

versed helm Nov 2, 2020, 4:39 AM

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He did his bit, tho

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I mean, no one else battled the AI keeper of a giant space ring that can yeet all life in a part of the galaxy

cedar surge Nov 2, 2020, 4:53 AM

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glances at gravemind

west silo Nov 2, 2020, 4:59 AM

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Wouldn't everything be fine if spark wasn't so trigger happy

cedar surge Nov 2, 2020, 5:03 AM

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I mean yea

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He could have just done a system wide pulse in CE

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He didn't have to re activate the whole array

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Could have the rewarding been done twice?

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Guilty nearly reset the librarians work twice

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Three if you count two i guess

west silo Nov 2, 2020, 5:08 AM

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Especially when he could have just destroyed the covenant ships above

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Since he was also gonna blow up the autumn because they couldn't respond to his message

cedar surge Nov 2, 2020, 5:14 AM

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Couldn't guilty just kidnap a few humans just in case he needs to fire a pulse?

stable flower Nov 2, 2020, 6:33 AM

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Did any other humans see Sentinels on Alpha Halo?

carmine sleet Nov 2, 2020, 6:33 AM

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Yes

slim thorn Nov 2, 2020, 7:14 AM

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In the cutscene its more like a 500m
If it was when Chief tries to rescue Captain Keyes when the Flood disables it is because the liquids itself nullifies the damage and the depth is enough to nullify it.

stable flower Nov 2, 2020, 7:32 AM

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I may have said this, but I wish they explored human historical events like the proxy wars on Earth and it's colonies and the Inner Colony Wars and so on.

cedar surge Nov 2, 2020, 11:50 AM

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I mean humanity already has a ton of its own lore

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I would prefer the covenant getting that

terse lava Nov 2, 2020, 1:45 PM

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same, more books like Broken Circle set in the Covenant's past

versed helm Nov 2, 2020, 2:44 PM

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It would be fun

cedar surge Nov 2, 2020, 4:25 PM

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Maybe a story about the covenant nearly falling into civil war foreshadowing the great schism?

west silo Nov 2, 2020, 4:31 PM

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Wouldn't that just be a Tuesday for the covenant

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Like come on these guys are so bad at keeping records they literally forget entire planets exist for centuries

cedar surge Nov 2, 2020, 4:38 PM

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"The grunts are rebelling"
"Not again!"

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But yea

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How bad is their record keeping

versed helm Nov 2, 2020, 5:50 PM

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Pretty bad, I think

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Primarily because their record keepers are wattled old leather things

lilac palm Nov 2, 2020, 6:42 PM

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Hey guys I’m contemplating the idea of my personal Fanstory on the ODST

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Set during the Fall of Reach, about THE Melissa McKay. The badass ODST from Halo: The Flood

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It’s more a fanfiction really

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Thoughts?

inner basin Nov 2, 2020, 6:51 PM

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Why not create an OC if you’re wanting to create a fanfic. Lot more creative freedom imo

cedar surge Nov 2, 2020, 6:54 PM

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I think it might be they just really like the character

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Who wouldn't

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Its THE Melissa McKay

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No other Melissa McKay could match

humble yacht Nov 2, 2020, 7:08 PM

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in the town of South Park, they'd call her Melissa M'Kay

paper hedge Nov 3, 2020, 12:00 AM

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I’m reading Halo reach book for the first time, and in chapter 11; Admiral Stanforth mentioned the first contact with the covenants. Does this was the first contact with the covenants?

gilded mason Nov 3, 2020, 12:03 AM

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The book, notably named Contact Harvest, goes into humanity's first contact with the Covenant.

cedar surge Nov 3, 2020, 12:23 AM

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Contact was 27 years ago by the point

versed helm Nov 3, 2020, 12:29 AM

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Is their a reason the sheild regen was slow in 4? Or is that me being a bit fussy? I felt like i needed to take cover for ages

stiff creek Nov 3, 2020, 12:34 AM

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I feel like there could be a reason for that, but I haven't played 4 too much lately.

versed helm Nov 3, 2020, 12:35 AM

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It seemed real weird, I played most of the halos in a short time and 4 was deffo the most delayed

cedar surge Nov 3, 2020, 12:42 AM

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Well

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You could say its due to chiefs armor taking heavy damage in 3

flat bone Nov 3, 2020, 12:46 AM

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Maybe you had an armour abillity on?

slim thorn Nov 3, 2020, 12:56 AM

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I was thinking that between 2 and 3 chief's armor got damaged

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Especially during raid on Anodyne Spirit where he was caught off guard by a Kig'Yar.

flat bone Nov 3, 2020, 12:59 AM

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between 2 and 3 would make sense

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but in halo 4

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With all the armour changes

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wouldn't make sense

unique rune Nov 3, 2020, 1:01 AM

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I don't think there's a lore explanation for it
Just one of those things you have to chalk up to gameplay design

lapis ferry Nov 3, 2020, 1:10 AM

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I was thinking that between 2 and 3 chief's armor got damaged
@slim thorn my guy jumped off of the keyship while it was entering the atmosphere, of course his armor was damaged

cedar surge Nov 3, 2020, 1:19 AM

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He has the features so he is going to use all the features

west silo Nov 3, 2020, 1:40 AM

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How does an energy sword hold something up without cutting them in half?

flat bone Nov 3, 2020, 1:40 AM

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good question

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maybe the weilders hand

west silo Nov 3, 2020, 1:41 AM

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The can cut through ship armor easily like butter

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But the 3 inch miljor boi no

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How did the energy sword not bisect Emil?

flat bone Nov 3, 2020, 1:43 AM

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the users hand is much larger wider than the sword

west silo Nov 3, 2020, 1:43 AM

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I don't think that matters with it

cedar surge Nov 3, 2020, 1:48 AM

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Well

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The elite stuck it in emile sideways on the blunt side

cedar surge Nov 3, 2020, 2:42 AM

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So has the image of the 2s and 3s changed in any way?

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During the war their image was legendary

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But with many new IVs that should have changed right

craggy sierra Nov 3, 2020, 2:44 AM

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I’m pretty sure the public is mostly unaware of spartans even having different generations.

opal birch Nov 3, 2020, 2:53 AM

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Yeah only the military keeps track of that

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It's like how most folks can't tell the difference between personnel of different branches

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Or how most people kinda lump all special operations units together

unique rune Nov 3, 2020, 3:21 AM

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I can't imagine the UNSC would really want the public to know there were separate generations to begin with.

cedar surge Nov 3, 2020, 3:22 AM

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Might start asking questions like "what happened to hen 1 and 3"

craggy sierra Nov 3, 2020, 3:22 AM

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3’s still exist

cedar surge Nov 3, 2020, 3:22 AM

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Few

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Actually

craggy sierra Nov 3, 2020, 3:22 AM

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They got integrated into S4 squads.

stiff creek Nov 3, 2020, 3:23 AM

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Few hundred.

cedar surge Nov 3, 2020, 3:23 AM

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Gamma company still exists

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So yea

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Just gen 1

versed helm Nov 3, 2020, 5:58 AM

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Does the spartan augmentations get pass down if the spartan have kids or only a few

gilded mason Nov 3, 2020, 5:59 AM

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Nope

versed helm Nov 3, 2020, 5:59 AM

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Ok

humble yacht Nov 3, 2020, 5:59 AM

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The progeny of Spartan 1s were born with some increased benefits compared to normal humans

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But not to the levels of their parents

gilded mason Nov 3, 2020, 6:00 AM

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Actually, that seemed to be because they were injected with something at birth

humble yacht Nov 3, 2020, 6:00 AM

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And iirc they actually needed to be cared for in infancy to ensure development of those properties

gilded mason Nov 3, 2020, 6:00 AM

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"Sometime when you were a baby, somebody stuck you with a needle and shot you full of miracles."

humble yacht Nov 3, 2020, 6:01 AM

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If the babies were augmented then why only do it to Spartan 1s’ kids?

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Why not make everyone’s babies miracles?

gilded mason Nov 3, 2020, 6:01 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯ ilovebees man

versed helm Nov 3, 2020, 11:08 AM

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Not everyone's babies were like S-I babies

slim thorn Nov 3, 2020, 11:39 AM

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It's more like the combined genes of the S-I parents makes the child already augmented by the blood from the start

versed helm Nov 3, 2020, 12:13 PM

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Yeah

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They already have some minor adaptations, and those probably helped them survive the S-II augs

humble yacht Nov 3, 2020, 1:14 PM

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Spartan 1.1s were not turned into Spartan IIs

cedar surge Nov 3, 2020, 1:33 PM

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So did ONI ever do anything with Spartan 1.1s?

humble yacht Nov 3, 2020, 1:46 PM

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ONI didn’t but the Spartan 1.1s tried to do something themselves

orchid prism Nov 3, 2020, 2:55 PM

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Is there a difference in Halo Reach's troopers and Halo CE's marines? Why do the marines look the same in the anniversary mode in CE??

cedar surge Nov 3, 2020, 2:55 PM

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Well saber used the same models

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But in lore

humble yacht Nov 3, 2020, 2:55 PM

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Technically, the soldiers in reach were UNSC Army

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the marines didn't appear until the very end alongside Keyes

cedar surge Nov 3, 2020, 2:56 PM

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Its most likely due that some army evacuated to the PoA

orchid prism Nov 3, 2020, 2:56 PM

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Oh i see

west silo Nov 3, 2020, 3:59 PM

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So are unsc combat knifes made out of special materials?

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Because one was able to deflect an energy sword somehow

humble yacht Nov 3, 2020, 4:01 PM

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when?

west silo Nov 3, 2020, 4:01 PM

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Halo legends

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The package

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Fred

humble yacht Nov 3, 2020, 4:01 PM

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that's probably just artistic liberty

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there's a lot of that in The Package

west silo Nov 3, 2020, 4:02 PM

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Well a unsc knife also penetrated covenant ship armor

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The lich for 4

humble yacht Nov 3, 2020, 4:02 PM

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that's more believable

west silo Nov 3, 2020, 4:03 PM

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The same ship you had to board because none of weapons could penetrate it

cedar surge Nov 3, 2020, 4:03 PM

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Well

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Your piercing it with Spartan strength

humble yacht Nov 3, 2020, 4:04 PM

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MJOLNIR is made out of a titanium alloy, titanium has a higher melting point than steel, and energy swords can slice through MJOLNIR with ease

west silo Nov 3, 2020, 4:04 PM

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Your piercing it with Spartan strength
@cedar surge
Wouldn't the knife just shatter

humble yacht Nov 3, 2020, 4:04 PM

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depends on what Covenant ship hulls are made of

west silo Nov 3, 2020, 4:05 PM

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Nanaoluminte?

inner basin Nov 3, 2020, 4:05 PM

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that's probably just artistic liberty
there's a lot of that in The Package
Kelly's boots and breastplate shivers

west silo Nov 3, 2020, 4:05 PM

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Green elite blood

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Oh yeah and unsc knifes can penetrate Spartan armor

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By being thrown

stiff creek Nov 3, 2020, 4:28 PM

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If a knife is strong enough to penetrate the hull of a starship, that says something.

west silo Nov 3, 2020, 4:36 PM

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The starship sucks?

cedar surge Nov 3, 2020, 4:41 PM

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Nothing wrong with a ship made out of cardboard

versed helm Nov 3, 2020, 4:43 PM

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Well, if you strap it onto a missile aimed at the starship, it would technically pierce the hull

humble yacht Nov 3, 2020, 4:43 PM

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probably not

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i think the force behind a spartan's stab is greater than the force behind a missile's propulsion

west silo Nov 3, 2020, 4:44 PM

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You sure

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That would mean a Spartan could send you to space

versed helm Nov 3, 2020, 4:45 PM

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Depends on the planet's gravity

humble yacht Nov 3, 2020, 4:46 PM

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i think you overestimate the amount of propulsion required to launch a missile in space

versed helm Nov 3, 2020, 4:46 PM

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What if the knife is being held by a Spartan being ejected out of a missile tube?

humble yacht Nov 3, 2020, 4:47 PM

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missiles are light weight compared to star ships and don't have to reach exit velocity because they're used in space

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it's a ship-to-ship missile, not a surface-to-ship missile

versed helm Nov 3, 2020, 4:50 PM

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So, a Spartan hits harder than ship-to-ship ballistic, but not harder than a planet based ballistic

humble yacht Nov 3, 2020, 4:50 PM

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well a missile's damage is not from how hard it launches

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but rather the yield of its payload

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and no, that's not what I was saying

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what even is a planet-based ballistic?

jolly furnace Nov 3, 2020, 5:38 PM

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A slug being shot at over half Lightspeed at a planet?

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By a MAC station

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?

humble yacht Nov 3, 2020, 5:38 PM

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MAC stations are in space

jolly furnace Nov 3, 2020, 5:39 PM

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Are talkin a literal planet-sized ballistic round?

humble yacht Nov 3, 2020, 5:39 PM

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no

jolly furnace Nov 3, 2020, 5:39 PM

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ok

spiral jewel Nov 3, 2020, 5:39 PM

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I can't remember if it's the case or not, but can the First (MK IV, MK V and MK VI) , second and third Generation Mjolnir power suits be capable of storing a Spartans personal music playlist?

humble yacht Nov 3, 2020, 5:39 PM

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we're talking about a ballistic that's fired from the surface of a planet

jolly furnace Nov 3, 2020, 5:39 PM

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Ah

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those are surface-to space rounds

humble yacht Nov 3, 2020, 5:40 PM

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but they don't exist

jolly furnace Nov 3, 2020, 5:40 PM

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in sci fi they do

humble yacht Nov 3, 2020, 5:40 PM

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when in Halo have we seen such an armament?

jolly furnace Nov 3, 2020, 5:40 PM

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didnt say halo

humble yacht Nov 3, 2020, 5:40 PM

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this is a halo chat, lol

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Halo's all that matters

jolly furnace Nov 3, 2020, 5:41 PM

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UNSC could probably make one

humble yacht Nov 3, 2020, 5:41 PM

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it would be unrealistic

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a waste of rocket fuel

jolly furnace Nov 3, 2020, 5:41 PM

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Pff - and over here we have parasitic lovecraftian gods capable of screwing physics on a whim

humble yacht Nov 3, 2020, 5:42 PM

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yea well they weren't involved in the Human-Covenant War so we don't have to worry about them

jolly furnace Nov 3, 2020, 5:42 PM

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Uh hem - not on that level

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But they were there

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They caused quite a scare

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Could a railgun weapon reach orbit?

humble yacht Nov 3, 2020, 5:43 PM

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there is a very specific question being discussed here, the Flood nor the Precursors fit into that question

jolly furnace Nov 3, 2020, 5:43 PM

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Or a coilgun?

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Could a rail/coilgun weapon powerful enough be made to reach orbit

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I know ME has one

humble yacht Nov 3, 2020, 5:43 PM

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a mass driver could probably launch a projectile into orbit

jolly furnace Nov 3, 2020, 5:44 PM

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So its doable then?

humble yacht Nov 3, 2020, 5:44 PM

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but the atmosphere would probably tear it apart over that long of a distance

jolly furnace Nov 3, 2020, 5:44 PM

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UNSC would have to use some super durable material then

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not Earth-native

humble yacht Nov 3, 2020, 5:45 PM

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there really isn't a point to invest into that when we have orbital defense stations that can more easily and efficiently target enemy space craft

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all this point was originally meant to address was that it takes less force for an ARCHER missile fired in space to reach a Covie ship than it does to launch a missile from a planet's surface and have it exit the planet's atmosphere and still hit the ship

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and ARCHER missiles aren't used for piercing, anyway. they're explosive

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so yes, a spartan in MJOLNIR stabbing a knife into a ship's hull probably has more force behind it than launching an ARCHER missile

stiff creek Nov 3, 2020, 5:50 PM

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I was referring to Chief in Halo 4 when he stabbed a Lich.

humble yacht Nov 3, 2020, 5:51 PM

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yeah, i imagine a Lich uses the same hull material as a covie starship

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Lich's are slipspace-rated, after all

stiff creek Nov 3, 2020, 5:52 PM

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Mmhm.

jolly furnace Nov 3, 2020, 5:52 PM

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yeh thats one tough sharp knife

humble yacht Nov 3, 2020, 5:53 PM

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absolutely

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but nothing I can find about its construction would merit it being able to deflect an energy sword

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from what I can tell, it's just a high-carbon steel knife coated in titanium

stiff creek Nov 3, 2020, 5:54 PM

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cough ~~The Package~~ cough

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Fred

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=

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Knife God apparently

humble yacht Nov 3, 2020, 5:55 PM

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well like was said earlier

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The Package is not really a reliable depiction of canon

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it takes many artistic liberties with its presentation

stiff creek Nov 3, 2020, 5:56 PM

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Yeah
That's scene was still wack tho

humble yacht Nov 3, 2020, 5:57 PM

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alot of The Package was wack

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Kelly's armor, Halsey's appearance

stiff creek Nov 3, 2020, 5:58 PM

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ah
Kelly's armor

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On of the most underrated designs in Halo.

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I wonder where the producers got the idea to make Halsey look like a 20 year old.

humble yacht Nov 3, 2020, 6:00 PM

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well, it was a japanese animation studio

stiff creek Nov 3, 2020, 6:00 PM

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Eh.

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Did Kelly even have an English accent in The Package?

humble yacht Nov 3, 2020, 6:01 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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i'm sure you can watch it somewhere and find out

stiff creek Nov 3, 2020, 6:02 PM

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I will.
I don't think she did.

humble yacht Nov 3, 2020, 6:04 PM

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so Troy Denning said in an interview that he wanted to have Kelly listening to Queen, but that fell through because of copyright or some crap. Still, seems to be the case that Kelly enjoys rock-and-roll

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i wonder what genres the rest of blue team would listen to

stiff creek Nov 3, 2020, 6:05 PM

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I wonder.

obsidian thistle Nov 3, 2020, 6:05 PM

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The Gravemind likes the sound of everlasting vistory...

And bad poetry

stiff creek Nov 3, 2020, 6:06 PM

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kek

tidal junco Nov 3, 2020, 6:07 PM

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Has anyone translated the text on elite armor in halo 3?

humble yacht Nov 3, 2020, 6:07 PM

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maybe

tidal junco Nov 3, 2020, 6:07 PM

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I'm trying to now but can't find out how to orientate the text

humble yacht Nov 3, 2020, 6:08 PM

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elites probably have some weird reading scheme like bottom to top

tidal junco Nov 3, 2020, 6:13 PM

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I've been staring at a dead elite in h3 for 30 min now

tidal junco Nov 3, 2020, 6:29 PM

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Is there a lore master in the chat?

stiff creek Nov 3, 2020, 6:30 PM

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Possibly.

jolly furnace Nov 3, 2020, 6:33 PM

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I wouldn't mock GMs poetry, you may hurt its feelings

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and it might take offense...

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and take retributive action

obsidian thistle Nov 3, 2020, 8:13 PM

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maybe
@humble yacht that text cant be read

humble yacht Nov 3, 2020, 8:13 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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i did say maybe

obsidian thistle Nov 3, 2020, 8:13 PM

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Its random flair Bungie liked to put on stuff

versed helm Nov 4, 2020, 12:36 AM

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How painful do you think it’s for a spartan augmentations to be reversed, Ik the spartan II augmentations were a dangerous operation

gilded mason Nov 4, 2020, 12:38 AM

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It'd be impossible for most of them to be reversed. And some, like the bone ones, were fused with the bones so they'd have to take out all of their bones, and somehow take off some amount of layering of every single bone to get the grafts that might be there. (As far as I know)

versed helm Nov 4, 2020, 12:39 AM

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Ok

gilded mason Nov 4, 2020, 12:39 AM

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And yeah, at that point, it'd be a "why in the world would you bother" thing

humble yacht Nov 4, 2020, 12:51 AM

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To have ONI leave you and your daughter alone

gilded mason Nov 4, 2020, 12:51 AM

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I meant why in the world you would bother to remove it, for ONI

humble yacht Nov 4, 2020, 12:52 AM

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I guess ONI didn’t want any enemies learning anything about Spartans if someone get lucky enough to kill Randal

obsidian thistle Nov 4, 2020, 1:02 AM

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The real mystery is "how special was his daughter". As she was (rip) the only Spartan 2.1 we seen. :(

humble yacht Nov 4, 2020, 1:03 AM

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I mean

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Since spartan 1.1s were apparently special because of light augmentations applied during infancy

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Probably not that special

obsidian thistle Nov 4, 2020, 1:07 AM

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There was small bricks laid by 343i for the 2.1s some could say. With Randals wife dying during complications during child birth.

humble yacht Nov 4, 2020, 1:10 AM

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That could be indicative of the baby being born weaker, not stronger

versed helm Nov 4, 2020, 1:36 AM

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Wouldn’t Randal daughter be considered a spartan 1.1

humble yacht Nov 4, 2020, 1:40 AM

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No because Randal was not a spartan 1

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He was a spartan 2

versed helm Nov 4, 2020, 1:40 AM

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Oh right nvm then

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I’m pretty sure ONI will find out because they don’t want someone with the spartan II augmentation running around lol

versed helm Nov 4, 2020, 3:53 AM

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If the daughter survives getting ONI'd, she'll be a Spartan 2.1, the miracle baby's miracle baby

rancid nexus Nov 4, 2020, 4:03 AM

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I just watched Halo Evolutions: Headhunters and I wanted to know more about Jay and Roll (I think that's his name) but I cant find anything about them when I looked them up, not even a wiki page. Does anyone know where to find some stuff about them? Is that story not canon or something?

obsidian thistle Nov 4, 2020, 4:08 AM

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https://www.halopedia.org/Roland-B210
https://www.halopedia.org/Jonah-B283

Halopedia

Roland-B210

Roland-B210 was a SPARTAN-III supersoldier of Beta Company who was part of the UNSC Naval Intelligence Beta-5 Division. He was a part of the elite Special Operations squad of Headhunters. He, along with Jonah-B283, led a semi-successful Mission to unidentified moon.
Roland wor...

Halopedia

Jonah-B283

Jonah-B283 was a SPARTAN-III supersoldier of Beta Company. He was part of the UNSC Naval Intelligence Beta-5 Division and a member of an elite Headhunter team alongside fellow SPARTAN-III Roland-B210. He, along with Roland, led a semi-successful stealth attack on an unknown re...

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@rancid nexus

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Story is canon.

rancid nexus Nov 4, 2020, 4:10 AM

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oh sick thanks

versed helm Nov 4, 2020, 4:11 AM

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We need a branching off single part headhunters game

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It'll be like Halo+AC

rancid nexus Nov 4, 2020, 4:13 AM

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That would be cool actually, I really like their characters

wispy wasp Nov 4, 2020, 4:22 AM

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Would the great schism have happened without chief/the destruction of alpha halo?

gilded mason Nov 4, 2020, 4:22 AM

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Yeah. Truth has been planning it for decades.

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Though the exact timing might change

obsidian thistle Nov 4, 2020, 4:23 AM

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If we count alt universes: In the Killer Instinct universe it still happens. With the Arbiter in that universe still winning at the end.

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Thats zero human involvement also

wispy wasp Nov 4, 2020, 4:24 AM

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Oh, so it wasn't just because of alpha halos destruction. I guess it makes sense truth had it planned for a while

cedar surge Nov 4, 2020, 4:25 AM

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Killer instinct universe?

obsidian thistle Nov 4, 2020, 4:27 AM

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So ya know the game Killer Instinct. Well it has fiction tied to the Arbiter character in it.

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This lore details off-hand that the Arbiter in that universe kills Truth and so on.

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Its really interesting tbh

cedar surge Nov 4, 2020, 4:41 AM

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Huh

terse lava Nov 4, 2020, 4:45 AM

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Question is then, was KI Arbiter a loyalist or not 😛

versed helm Nov 4, 2020, 5:01 AM

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Is halo Evolutions even cannon or no

gilded mason Nov 4, 2020, 5:01 AM

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Yes.

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Why wouldn't it be?

stable flower Nov 4, 2020, 5:03 AM

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Why wasn't the UNSC Army invited to the Hillside Memorial?

gilded mason Nov 4, 2020, 5:03 AM

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Honestly, I just consider that Traviss being dumb.

stable flower Nov 4, 2020, 5:04 AM

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Sort of like ONI starting a proxy war on Sanghelios.

terse lava Nov 4, 2020, 5:11 AM

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Or poisoning grain

unique rune Nov 4, 2020, 5:17 AM

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b a r n s

terse lava Nov 4, 2020, 5:27 AM

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"not the barns, anything but the barns!"

versed helm Nov 4, 2020, 6:38 AM

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They tested the poisoned grain on M'dama, right?

gilded mason Nov 4, 2020, 6:40 AM

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Yeah.

versed helm Nov 4, 2020, 6:41 AM

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But then M'dama pulled a quick one and teleported off

gilded mason Nov 4, 2020, 6:41 AM

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Ye

versed helm Nov 4, 2020, 6:42 AM

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K5 did have a kinda good storyline, though

gilded mason Nov 4, 2020, 6:42 AM

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Maybe if it wasn't a Halo book, sure

versed helm Nov 4, 2020, 6:43 AM

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Why is the majority against the series so much, though?

gilded mason Nov 4, 2020, 6:45 AM

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Because it gets facts wrong, intentionally and unintentionally, endorses genocide and distrust among racial groups, and basically says "Sometimes genocide is needed, for our security."

versed helm Nov 4, 2020, 6:46 AM

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Oh dang, it does.

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I honestly didnt pay all that attention to the deeper messages in the books

gilded mason Nov 4, 2020, 6:49 AM

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Ye, and you see Kilo-5's effect on discourse even nowadays. With many Halo fans still going, "Well, of course ONI was right to instigate mass-murder, chaos, and destruction! This other species can't be trusted, so it's safer to simply wipe them all out! Genocide is cool when the guys I like do it."

versed helm Nov 4, 2020, 6:50 AM

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Yeah. And thats a very wrong approach towards the whole saga

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One genocide doesnt justify another

gilded mason Nov 4, 2020, 6:51 AM

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Ye

west silo Nov 4, 2020, 7:36 AM

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It also made oni dumb as hell

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And reduced the elites to space lizards who can't even build a barn

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Oh and then tries it hardest to put all the blame of every horrible thing that ever happened on halsey

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And it made the universe really small

versed helm Nov 4, 2020, 9:47 AM

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ONI seem to not care about morality. They only use it against assets like Halsey for blackmailing

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At least, portions of ONI don’t

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Some of them don’t even put Spartans in much of a crucial spotlight. This brings me back to the false-flag mission Thorne was sent on — something which simply used him as a pawn without much care for how valuable he was as a unit

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The bioweapon on Ven III, to be exact

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(Also, ONI would totally fake a moon landing)

flat iron Nov 4, 2020, 12:31 PM

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Halsey getting blackmailed by ONI is just karma imo, they're about as morally bankrupt as each other

cedar surge Nov 4, 2020, 12:56 PM

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Well halsey is starting to feel bad about the Spartans

humble yacht Nov 4, 2020, 1:16 PM

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Halsey has felt guilt as far back as 2552

versed helm Nov 4, 2020, 2:41 PM

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Halsey felt bad from the first death in experimentation, if I'm not wrong

versed helm Nov 4, 2020, 3:45 PM

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Why is the Voi Memorial so small?

cedar surge Nov 4, 2020, 3:52 PM

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I don't think chief would have wanted a large memorial

carmine sleet Nov 4, 2020, 3:52 PM

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The Voi memorial wasn't just for Chief

versed helm Nov 4, 2020, 3:53 PM

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He was not the only person to be honoured in that memorial.

humble yacht Nov 4, 2020, 3:55 PM

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it was largely an impromptu service and the memorial was built with what they had available at the time

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also I don't think the UNSC is all about grandstanding

versed helm Nov 4, 2020, 4:04 PM

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It didn't even pay respects to all of the soldiers who died though.

humble yacht Nov 4, 2020, 4:08 PM

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it was largely symbolic

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obviously at that time they hadn't been able to tally every death

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it was an impromptu memorial and service celebrating the end of the war

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i'm sure later they actually took the time to log ever actual death that they could

versed helm Nov 4, 2020, 4:10 PM

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Do you think that there would have been a separate memorial service dedicated to both Jacob and Miranda Keyes?

humble yacht Nov 4, 2020, 4:11 PM

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no idea

cedar surge Nov 4, 2020, 4:16 PM

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Well they probably have as separate memorials for the most important people

craggy sierra Nov 4, 2020, 4:38 PM

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Uh...I don’t think that’s how war memorials work

cedar surge Nov 4, 2020, 4:55 PM

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Well they said separate one for keys

versed helm Nov 4, 2020, 4:55 PM

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I found it sad that Halsey mourned the death of her daughter. It struck her like a freight train. She started trying to remember what the last thing she said to her was. And was hoping that they parted on good terms. And when working on the UNSC INFINITY she put her head in her hands crying while saying Miranda. This is in the kilo five trilogy

cedar surge Nov 4, 2020, 4:55 PM

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Even though they are already on a memorial

humble yacht Nov 4, 2020, 4:56 PM

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I found it sad that Halsey mourned the death of her daughter. It struck her like a freight train. She started trying to remember what the last thing she said to her was. And was hoping that they parted on good terms. And when working on the UNSC INFINITY she put her head in her hands crying while saying Miranda. This is in the kilo five trilogy
Miranda was her daughter

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for all their estrangement, Halsey still lost her only actual kid

versed helm Nov 4, 2020, 4:59 PM

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Ik that

stiff nest Nov 4, 2020, 7:12 PM

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also we not gonna talk about how Halsey didn't cry about her son who died in reach? You know noble 5

gilded mason Nov 4, 2020, 7:12 PM

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Oh you.

west silo Nov 4, 2020, 7:16 PM

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It must feel awkward everytime jorge says mam to someone

humble yacht Nov 4, 2020, 7:18 PM

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only if you've never heard a british accent

cedar surge Nov 4, 2020, 7:30 PM

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If only subtitles were mandatory

humble yacht Nov 4, 2020, 7:31 PM

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oh

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lol

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because subtitles show you its ma'am, not mom

wispy wasp Nov 4, 2020, 7:39 PM

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That makes a lot more sense now

west silo Nov 4, 2020, 7:42 PM

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Is it just me ir did the game reach make the planet look more like a farm world than a military capital

unique rune Nov 4, 2020, 7:45 PM

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A planet is a big place

humble yacht Nov 4, 2020, 7:46 PM

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unless you're Pluto uny

unique rune Nov 4, 2020, 7:47 PM

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~~Dwarf planets are cheating~~

slim thorn Nov 4, 2020, 8:10 PM

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Even though they are already on a memorial
Well... I don't think they are going to be made separately. Considering at the end of the war the Chief and Johnson serves Keyes family, they do deserve to be put on the same memorial as the others, especially for those who serves both father and daughter.

west silo Nov 4, 2020, 8:11 PM

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Its pretty ironic that they both died doing stupid stuff

slim thorn Nov 4, 2020, 8:14 PM

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I would like to have a nomination for DYK

cedar surge Nov 4, 2020, 8:31 PM

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I mean reach only showed a few cities

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And military sites

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And farmland

versed helm Nov 4, 2020, 11:44 PM

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I still find it odd how reach have 27 hours days

unique rune Nov 4, 2020, 11:54 PM

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So have there ever been any criteria detailed for how humanity picked what planets to colonize?
Like do they send probes to first scout things out, or do they just go system-hopping in colonization fleets, etc...?

I've never been able to find anything of the sort so I can only assume it's never been explained, but maybe someone knows something I don't.

craggy sierra Nov 5, 2020, 12:04 AM

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I’d assume the criteria is:
-has breathable atmosphere

cedar surge Nov 5, 2020, 12:11 AM

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Well in halo pre packaged liveable planets are rare

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Most of the colonies were terraformed

unique rune Nov 5, 2020, 12:13 AM

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I’d assume the criteria is:
-has breathable atmosphere
I would sure hope so

Main thing I'm just curious about is how potential planets are identified in the first place

cedar surge Nov 5, 2020, 12:25 AM

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Is it:
Rock
Big enough
Not to much work to terraform

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And the UEG was willing to throw asteroids with water at draco 3 to cool it down so

vague scroll Nov 5, 2020, 3:04 AM

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we have the technology today to identify planet's size, gravity, atmospheric make up, location in perspective to other orbiting bodies, and surface contents with a very high probability across light years. Now add Halo's Slipspace engine to automated probes and you have your explanation for how mankind jumped to the stars beginning in 2291. @unique rune

west silo Nov 5, 2020, 4:07 AM

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Did humanity have some form of FTL before encountering the covenant

gilded mason Nov 5, 2020, 4:13 AM

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Uh. Slipspace is FTL so...

west silo Nov 5, 2020, 4:16 AM

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Oh boy

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I meant FTL comms

gilded mason Nov 5, 2020, 4:16 AM

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Oh.

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Don't think so

west silo Nov 5, 2020, 4:17 AM

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So every planet was basically isolated

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Imagine trying to send a waypoint message to a family on earth from harvest

gilded mason Nov 5, 2020, 4:19 AM

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And after a while, people on worlds further and further from Earth will have less reason to stay "connected" as it were.

cedar surge Nov 5, 2020, 4:19 AM

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Well there was mail carrier ships

gilded mason Nov 5, 2020, 4:19 AM

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Not even counting all the corruption that makes their lives worse

west silo Nov 5, 2020, 4:23 AM

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It's funny that the covenant only settled on worlds with forerunner tech but still had a lot more planets than humanity

gilded mason Nov 5, 2020, 4:23 AM

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the covenant only settled on worlds with forerunner tech
Where was that said?

west silo Nov 5, 2020, 4:24 AM

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Warfleet

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The section about the covenant

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The part that also mentions them losing track of there planets for years

gilded mason Nov 5, 2020, 4:25 AM

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Yeah, I'm readin' that part but I don't see anything about only living on worlds with Forerunner tech

terse lava Nov 5, 2020, 4:26 AM

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They did nornally leave planets alone that lacked any importance

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That is from waypoint though

west silo Nov 5, 2020, 4:27 AM

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Oh waypoint

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Yeah

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Wait a minute does that mean that most covenant planets have a forerunner city

gilded mason Nov 5, 2020, 4:28 AM

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Man, that Waypoint article is outdated

west silo Nov 5, 2020, 4:28 AM

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Isn't that the most official source

gilded mason Nov 5, 2020, 4:29 AM

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I mean compared to later lore released through books or reference guides

terse lava Nov 5, 2020, 4:29 AM

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Indeed

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Warfleet itself says they had thousands of star systems

humble yacht Nov 5, 2020, 4:29 AM

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Warflert

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Lol

terse lava Nov 5, 2020, 4:29 AM

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Shush

west silo Nov 5, 2020, 4:29 AM

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That's just means there is a lot of forerunner stuff

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Is that really hard to imagine?

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Man I hate how small everything is now

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There are thousands of covenant planets out there and they seem to have just disappeared

terse lava Nov 5, 2020, 4:31 AM

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Well consider this, in older lore, thr Covenant controlled the vast majority of the galaxy

cedar surge Nov 5, 2020, 4:31 AM

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Yea the universe can feel really small sometimes

west silo Nov 5, 2020, 4:31 AM

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Isn't that also in warfleet

cedar surge Nov 5, 2020, 4:31 AM

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And how authors intentionally do that

terse lava Nov 5, 2020, 4:31 AM

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Sadly no

cedar surge Nov 5, 2020, 4:32 AM

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Whole universe stuck in the Orion arm

terse lava Nov 5, 2020, 4:32 AM

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Warfleet says almost everything takes place in the Orion arm

west silo Nov 5, 2020, 4:32 AM

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Well it said something about them dominating the galaxy

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Or maybe they just mean the Orion arm

terse lava Nov 5, 2020, 4:33 AM

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I could see the Covenant having a few colonies outside the orion arm

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But thats likely about it

west silo Nov 5, 2020, 4:33 AM

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Most likely they forgot the planets exist