#lore-and-universe | Halo | Page 424

midnight loom Oct 15, 2020, 4:34 PM

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delete them.

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 4:34 PM

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not on their own

midnight loom Oct 15, 2020, 4:34 PM

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DELETE.

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it will work right?

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 4:39 PM

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probably not

midnight loom Oct 15, 2020, 4:41 PM

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wait does the composer turn them into data right?

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 4:41 PM

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yeah

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i think so

midnight loom Oct 15, 2020, 4:42 PM

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data can be deleted right?

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 4:42 PM

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depends

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from a physics standpoint no

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but yes

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 4:43 PM

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Probably

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There is a promethean soul running around in the infinity's computers

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 4:45 PM

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composed entities aren't simply data tho

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so it's not clear whether they can be erased

midnight loom Oct 15, 2020, 4:45 PM

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hmm...

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well throw it into a black hole, there is a forge dedicated to composers after all...

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 4:45 PM

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There is a promethean soul running around in the infinity's computers
Endurance of Will is limited to the WZ simulations

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she's not running around all the systems

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 4:46 PM

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Yeah meant that

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 4:46 PM

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composed entities are not stored in the Composer

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 4:46 PM

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Its in the forge

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On a halo

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 4:47 PM

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technically not on a halo

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Gamma Halo has the portal that leads to the forge

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the forge itself is not on Gamma Halo

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 4:49 PM

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But didn't the didact land on the halo?

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 4:49 PM

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yes

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but the forge is not on the halo

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 4:50 PM

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And he asked the monitor if he was the monitor for the forge

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 4:50 PM

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chief didn't drop a piece of the halo onto itself

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 4:51 PM

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I thought the forge was also on the that part of the halo

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 4:51 PM

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no

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he dropped the piece of the halo containing the control room into the Forge

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 4:52 PM

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the peice of what halo

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 4:52 PM

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It control room was the size of a continent

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Gamma halo

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The one in 4

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 4:53 PM

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when was chif on gamma

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 4:53 PM

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that chunk of halo obviously contained more than just the control room

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when was chif on gamma
72 hours after the end of H4

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 4:54 PM

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oh

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 4:55 PM

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So was the monitor of the forge also the monitor for gamma halo or was he just taking a stroll?

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 4:55 PM

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different monitors

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 4:56 PM

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So where was the other

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 4:56 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 4:56 PM

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There was only one in the comic

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 4:56 PM

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yep

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 4:57 PM

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And he just took some one else's ring

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 4:58 PM

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that's what happens when the ring's monitor doesn't answer the phone

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 5:00 PM

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Well sparky didn't just steal tangent's

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 5:01 PM

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I05 wasn't damaged

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and also it had the SoS looking after it

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 5:02 PM

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They were glassing it

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 5:02 PM

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of course they were, it had a flood outbreak

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 5:02 PM

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It and the covenant were fighting right above it

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 5:03 PM

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Spark also had a more interesting mission

midnight loom Oct 15, 2020, 5:03 PM

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hmmm

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 5:04 PM

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Go to earth ?

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What mission?

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 5:05 PM

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find the ark

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 5:05 PM

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The flood were taking over high charity right in front of him

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 5:05 PM

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why would Spark care about high charity?

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 5:07 PM

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A mobile moon size space station is being over runned by a highly intelligent space galaxy ending space zombie

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 5:07 PM

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but spark was helping the reclaimer

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 5:07 PM

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I see no reason why spark should care

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 5:07 PM

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the only interest spark would have in High Charity would be its potential as a flood dispersal vector

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in which case, his response would be to fire the Halos

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 5:09 PM

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Remember when he would have nuked everyone because some flood got away on his ring

jolly furnace Oct 15, 2020, 5:10 PM

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Ya see the Flood is able to survive composition and sublimation tenchniques

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 5:11 PM

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And this time the flood got there hands on a FTL moonship

versed helm Oct 15, 2020, 5:11 PM

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wait whats a FTL moonship

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 5:11 PM

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high charity i think

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 5:11 PM

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But why should he care

jolly furnace Oct 15, 2020, 5:11 PM

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I dunno if the Flood is able to survive just Composer sublimation or non-composer sublimation aswell

versed helm Oct 15, 2020, 5:11 PM

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oh

jolly furnace Oct 15, 2020, 5:12 PM

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Could be down to Neural Physics in Composer, the Flood's own use of it or both

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 5:12 PM

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the Flood infection affects victims beyond the physical level

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that's why composed beings put into new bodies still manifest the infection

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 5:13 PM

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when the rings fired, the flood forms all died besides the infection forms, correct?

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 5:13 PM

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combat forms and higher died

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 5:13 PM

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ye

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 5:13 PM

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combat forms were rendered useless because their nervous systems were fried

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 5:13 PM

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the others starved?

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 5:14 PM

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dead flood biomass was cleared using the Solvent

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 5:14 PM

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so how did the flood survive

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if only smaller forms existed, why not wait for them to all die

midnight loom Oct 15, 2020, 5:15 PM

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some hid in a shield world?

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mebe.

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 5:15 PM

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some were collected for study

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 5:15 PM

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thats how the returned right?

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 5:15 PM

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it's not like the forerunners left any flood exposed before reseeding

midnight loom Oct 15, 2020, 5:16 PM

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oh.

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 5:16 PM

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subsequent flood presence came from outbreaks post-reseeding

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 5:16 PM

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yeah

midnight loom Oct 15, 2020, 5:16 PM

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thats... really dumb of them?

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 5:16 PM

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what's dumb?

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keeping some for study?

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 5:16 PM

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outbreaks start from research facillitys right?

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if they didnt research no outbreaks could start

soft mango Oct 15, 2020, 5:17 PM

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ONI will be ONI

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 5:17 PM

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They couldn't predict that a religious covenant of species would see them as gods and release the flood

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 5:17 PM

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if they didn't research the flood then they'd have no answer if more flood came from outside the galaxy

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it's the same reason why modern humans research dangerous diseases instead of getting rid of them entirely

midnight loom Oct 15, 2020, 5:17 PM

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hmm

soft mango Oct 15, 2020, 5:17 PM

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The floob are scary ngl

midnight loom Oct 15, 2020, 5:17 PM

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fair.

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 5:18 PM

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i would atleast make the research facillities less accesable

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and super hidden

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in the inner cores of planets or something

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something like that

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 5:19 PM

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they were on Halos

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and largely inaccessible

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 5:19 PM

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Well to be fair the only flood outbreak that was the forerunners fault only happened because the monitor was lazy

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 5:19 PM

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but sometimes things go wrong

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 5:19 PM

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fair

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 5:20 PM

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if nothing bad ever happened then there wouldn't be a game to play in the first place

midnight loom Oct 15, 2020, 5:20 PM

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shouldnt they rig fail safes?

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 5:20 PM

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yeah

midnight loom Oct 15, 2020, 5:20 PM

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chimera is breaking the 4th wall get the super soakers

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like yknow how unsc ships have nukes on them...?

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 5:21 PM

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There are fail safes

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Just not to destroy the ring

soft mango Oct 15, 2020, 5:21 PM

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U only press when dead

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 5:21 PM

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Because it's that's the only thing that can stop the flood

midnight loom Oct 15, 2020, 5:22 PM

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.... a nuke wont destroy the ring..

soft mango Oct 15, 2020, 5:22 PM

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well a flamethrower works very well

midnight loom Oct 15, 2020, 5:22 PM

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only in game.

soft mango Oct 15, 2020, 5:22 PM

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I know from experience

midnight loom Oct 15, 2020, 5:22 PM

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irl they would charge toward u and u would be burning 2

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 5:22 PM

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halo CE shotgun

soft mango Oct 15, 2020, 5:22 PM

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^

midnight loom Oct 15, 2020, 5:22 PM

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like in cwaf and burning zombies

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they touch u and boom ur mr. cwafy steve is on fire and dead.

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 5:23 PM

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halo CE shotgun and bandanna skull is a supreme combo

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 5:23 PM

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Only in gameplay

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 5:23 PM

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yes

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 5:23 PM

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The flame thrower thing

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 5:24 PM

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oh

midnight loom Oct 15, 2020, 5:24 PM

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common sense tho.

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if u set something on fire

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they touch u. ur on fire now 2

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 5:24 PM

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unless your already on fire

midnight loom Oct 15, 2020, 5:25 PM

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well that means ur already daed

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 5:25 PM

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i can guess nobody here knows how to use a flamethrower

midnight loom Oct 15, 2020, 5:25 PM

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"it is a bad idea to be on fire"

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 5:25 PM

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agreed

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unless its a killionare, thats the good type of fire

midnight loom Oct 15, 2020, 5:26 PM

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well yes.

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you just find a nice big group of players and start pulling the trigger

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they burn and u die but u git medal

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 5:27 PM

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yes

soft mango Oct 15, 2020, 5:28 PM

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Today

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grug make

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F i r e

ocean ibex Oct 15, 2020, 5:51 PM

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On paper a flamethrower sounds amazing against the flood, in practice it kind of sucks

midnight loom Oct 15, 2020, 5:52 PM

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yes.

soft mango Oct 15, 2020, 5:53 PM

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In practice

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It works very well

ocean ibex Oct 15, 2020, 5:53 PM

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No it kind of doesn’t

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Combat forms will prob get to you before the flames kill them

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Flood forms don’t feel pain, that’s one of the reasons why it’s so deadly against living creatures

carmine sleet Oct 15, 2020, 5:55 PM

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Not feeling pain doesn't mean something is resistant to fire

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Like, if I couldn't feel pain in my foot, that wouldn't mean my foot is now flame resistant

ocean ibex Oct 15, 2020, 5:58 PM

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But it’ll take longer ofc

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Usually when you feel your entire body cooking alive, you’ll succumb faster

midnight loom Oct 15, 2020, 6:00 PM

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yes.

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youll writh on the ground in ur last moments from pain

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not kill ing u r targ et

ocean ibex Oct 15, 2020, 6:01 PM

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I’ve already stated before, the best use for flamethrowers are burning dead bodies and destroying flood hives

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 6:02 PM

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just nuke da hive

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easier than sending in a soldier to do it

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also do you think that some human beleifs had the flood in it

ocean ibex Oct 15, 2020, 6:03 PM

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Nope

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 6:03 PM

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maybe they saw it in caveman drawings

ocean ibex Oct 15, 2020, 6:03 PM

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There are cults however

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A cult and a religion are 2 completely different things

carmine sleet Oct 15, 2020, 6:04 PM

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Humanity hasn't encountered caveman drawings of the Flood

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 6:04 PM

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scriptures

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are the flood in any human scriptures

ocean ibex Oct 15, 2020, 6:05 PM

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Prob not

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The general public prob don’t even know what the flood is

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 6:05 PM

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im thinking of spider man

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how the elementals were in scriptures

carmine sleet Oct 15, 2020, 6:06 PM

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The closest to a cult that worships the Flood are Governors of Contrition from the Covenant but they were most likely completely wiped out

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how the elementals were in scriptures
You know Mysterio made all that up, right?

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 6:06 PM

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yes but

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nvm

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i thought he used that as an alibi, rather than making it up

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but that makes sense

fair hazel Oct 15, 2020, 6:08 PM

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Some people do know about the flood

midnight loom Oct 15, 2020, 6:09 PM

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not many tho

jolly swift Oct 15, 2020, 6:11 PM

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it really has been a year since FFH hasn't it?

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 6:11 PM

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Outpost discovery did make there existence known

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To the public

cedar surge Oct 15, 2020, 6:11 PM

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Yea

jolly swift Oct 15, 2020, 6:11 PM

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I mean, humanity has already encountered a ton of aliens, what's one more species?

cedar surge Oct 15, 2020, 6:12 PM

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Letting the public and to the innies to a exent about a galaxy destroyibg parasite that would end all life seems not like a good idea

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 6:12 PM

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Well a species of zombies?

cedar surge Oct 15, 2020, 6:12 PM

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I mean yea

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The flood are capable of tearing apart reality and space

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 6:12 PM

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That can destroy worlds with out a ship

jolly swift Oct 15, 2020, 6:12 PM

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they don't have to really go too far into detail, just tell people it was another belligerent species that gave the Covenant some grief

cedar surge Oct 15, 2020, 6:12 PM

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And can infect the entire galaxy

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 6:13 PM

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and could kill us all

cedar surge Oct 15, 2020, 6:13 PM

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Well that might be smart either

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 6:13 PM

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And then people will want more answers

cedar surge Oct 15, 2020, 6:13 PM

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Cause if a person finds one they are not going to run for the hills

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 6:13 PM

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Like where it come from?

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How did they find it?

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 6:13 PM

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from the ogs

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it came from the og beings

cedar surge Oct 15, 2020, 6:14 PM

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Hey guys what about the flame grenade launchers hellbringers have

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Or their flame hogs

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Or flame mastadoons

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How effective would they be

carmine sleet Oct 15, 2020, 6:15 PM

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Very effective against the Flood

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 6:15 PM

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Pretty effective

ocean ibex Oct 15, 2020, 6:16 PM

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Very effective

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 6:16 PM

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Unless there fighting flying flood

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 6:16 PM

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then it would rain fire

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is there such thing as a flying flood form?

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 6:17 PM

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Am pretty sure it hard to hit some thing in the air with a flame thrower

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Yep

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Wars 1 and 2

jolly swift Oct 15, 2020, 6:18 PM

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nuke the site from orbit

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only way to be sure

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 6:21 PM

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what percent of spartans survive the body augmentations

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 6:21 PM

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As in the death rate?

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 6:21 PM

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sure

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 6:22 PM

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For S2s its 75% chance you'll die

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 6:22 PM

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depends on the generation

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 6:22 PM

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what gen has the lowest death rate

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 6:22 PM

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For 3s it was completely safe

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But its been retconed to some dying

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 6:22 PM

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ok

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 6:23 PM

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For 4s it completely safe

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 6:23 PM

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most spartans are harder to be infected by the flood

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correct?

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 6:23 PM

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No

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 6:23 PM

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only because of their increased combat capability

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 6:23 PM

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Only because of armor

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 6:23 PM

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they're more able to defend themselves against attack

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 6:24 PM

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oh i thought genetically it was harder for them to be infected

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 6:24 PM

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No that was Johnson and has been retconed

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 6:24 PM

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oh

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i was going to say that ONI should make everyone like johnson

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 6:25 PM

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He's was inferior

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Augmentation wise

ocean ibex Oct 15, 2020, 6:26 PM

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That would screw up human genetics for eternity lmao

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 6:26 PM

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johnson's susceptibility to the flood has gone back and forth

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 6:26 PM

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And most of them would probably have died afterwards

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Only first strike mentions him being immune

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 6:27 PM

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blah blah blame boren's syndrome to cover up his association with Project Orion

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then Joe Staten didn't like that so he changed it so that Johnson just never let any flood touch him like a badass

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someone said it's been retconned again so that Boren's Syndrome actually provides some resistance to the Flood due to compromised nerve endings, but no source on this

ocean ibex Oct 15, 2020, 6:29 PM

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Doesn’t Johnson have flood DNA in him

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 6:29 PM

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Where

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 6:30 PM

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I think first strike said he had inert flood DNA present in his blood but that may have also been retconned

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 6:30 PM

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There's even a canon comic story that has Johnson fighting his way out without getting touched by the flood

midnight loom Oct 15, 2020, 6:37 PM

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yeah.

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"they just passed him up"

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none of them ate him

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maybe because of his orion blood

gilded mason Oct 15, 2020, 6:38 PM

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As in, he didn't let them touch him

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 6:38 PM

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Yeah

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So he couldn't have got infected

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 6:39 PM

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it's not the first time halo has had conflicting canonicity

jolly swift Oct 15, 2020, 6:39 PM

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Reach

cedar surge Oct 15, 2020, 6:39 PM

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Well the 4s augmentation is not completely safe

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The first class died

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Ecept for zane

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 6:39 PM

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that was a different set of augmentations

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Ilsa Zane was a prototype IV

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subsequent Spartan IVs have all had a successful transformation, no deaths

midnight loom Oct 15, 2020, 6:41 PM

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yes

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spartans with no armor

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waht a joke

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 6:41 PM

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if Ilsa ever got her hands on some Mjolnir

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even an old set

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whoo boi

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 6:43 PM

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Is she still alive?

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 6:44 PM

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she's not confirmed dead

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 6:44 PM

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The last I saw she got spaced

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 6:44 PM

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even tho she was near a Guardian when it came out of the ground

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you're not up to date with her story then

stiff creek Oct 15, 2020, 6:45 PM

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Ilsa is kind of a badash

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 6:45 PM

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I didn't really follow her

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Man alot of stuff in first strike got retconed

midnight loom Oct 15, 2020, 6:48 PM

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yes.

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 6:49 PM

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So is the scene in first strike where cortana modified the plasma torps still canon?

jolly furnace Oct 15, 2020, 6:49 PM

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It wouldn't sense for the Flood parasite to be mentioned in human relgious texts or shown in cave paintings as devolved humans never encountered the Flood till 2500s A.D.

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And the few who did never told Erde-Tyrene humans of it

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 6:50 PM

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Because that was only possible because they were just plasma being held by magnets

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But now there physical

jolly furnace Oct 15, 2020, 6:50 PM

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So devolved humanity as a whole never knew of it till 2500s A.D.

midnight loom Oct 15, 2020, 6:51 PM

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you are forgetting

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we ARE the devolved humans

jolly furnace Oct 15, 2020, 6:52 PM

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Any references like Flood and Ark etc are just used in place of terms that are translated from original terms by forerunner software or just idioms from modern human cultures used by it

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Like Eden was not the name of the Librarian's garden near Mt. Kilamanjaro in Africa

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Its just Forerunner software applying devolved human cultural terms to it

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Also cos Bungie put in religious references just because.

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Like some think all Spartan-2s are descended from Greek Spartans just cos of the name use

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 6:57 PM

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Okay that's funny

charred knoll Oct 15, 2020, 6:58 PM

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Is there any lore behind dinosaurs? Or is it just assumed that it happened through reseeding the galaxy after the Halo arrays went off.

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 6:59 PM

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well remember

jolly furnace Oct 15, 2020, 6:59 PM

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Dinosaurs?

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what?

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 6:59 PM

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all that ancient humanity stuff was mayb 200-100 thousands years before modern halo

jolly furnace Oct 15, 2020, 6:59 PM

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they went extinct bar birds 65 million years ago

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 6:59 PM

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dinosaurs, on the other hand, were 65 million years before

jolly furnace Oct 15, 2020, 7:00 PM

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AH was 1.1. million BCE to 109,000 BCE

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 7:00 PM

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that's still way after dinos

jolly furnace Oct 15, 2020, 7:00 PM

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I know

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So i dunno why some people think dinos were still around in Halo then

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Though one type of rhino was on earth by halo firing when in RL it went extinct million of years before

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I can only assume Precursors put some ancient Earth animals on many planets

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or something

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Or its an alien Rhino

glad ore Oct 15, 2020, 7:12 PM

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So why is Master chief black?

royal sun Oct 15, 2020, 7:12 PM

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He white

glad ore Oct 15, 2020, 7:13 PM

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In a 3-5 second ad for xbox he's black, takes off helmet, flips around see black person with bi helnet un cheifs armor.

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Looks almost like Locke

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 7:15 PM

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cheif is white

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its shown in the halo 4 legendary ending

gilded mason Oct 15, 2020, 7:15 PM

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I assume Ethan is just meming.

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 7:15 PM

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you say meme, i say troll

gilded mason Oct 15, 2020, 7:15 PM

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That works

glad ore Oct 15, 2020, 7:15 PM

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No im not meming, or trolling

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 7:15 PM

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sure does

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then check your sites

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you cant trust everything you see

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 7:16 PM

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Come on that just an ad

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The ending even hammers it in

glad ore Oct 15, 2020, 7:16 PM

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I did, i was tryna watch a hiddenxperia and another ad came up and showed chief normal size, then grows big, take helm of flip around and hes black magically

gilded mason Oct 15, 2020, 7:17 PM

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Think things through.

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 7:17 PM

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that's not an ad for halo

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 7:17 PM

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Well it a promotional ad

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 7:17 PM

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it's an ad for Xbox

glad ore Oct 15, 2020, 7:17 PM

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The Fall of Reach shows him white too. Its an Xbox ad

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Well Halo is first party title and shouldve known better

gilded mason Oct 15, 2020, 7:18 PM

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I don't think you get the point of the ad

jolly furnace Oct 15, 2020, 7:18 PM

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Are we seriously debatin skin color?.......

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 7:18 PM

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you're the only one confused

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 7:19 PM

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who is

glad ore Oct 15, 2020, 7:19 PM

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No were talkin bout cheif color cause he's white but ad made him look like Locke

gilded mason Oct 15, 2020, 7:19 PM

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The ad is literally only showing some average person stepping into the role of an Xbox game's main character. It's patently apparent, dude.

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 7:19 PM

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patently
lol good word

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 7:19 PM

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The ad was just showing some random gamer

glad ore Oct 15, 2020, 7:20 PM

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Thats dumb

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 7:20 PM

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not really

gilded mason Oct 15, 2020, 7:20 PM

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Nah, it isn't

jolly furnace Oct 15, 2020, 7:20 PM

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People MC is Caucasian. That's it.

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 7:20 PM

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Dude come on

glad ore Oct 15, 2020, 7:20 PM

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Should showed xbox in suit instead

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 7:20 PM

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Ahh

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 7:20 PM

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that would be defeating the purpose

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 7:20 PM

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That would be weird

jolly furnace Oct 15, 2020, 7:20 PM

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Moving on......

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 7:20 PM

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@glad ore k, that's enough from you

glad ore Oct 15, 2020, 7:20 PM

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Nah

gilded mason Oct 15, 2020, 7:20 PM

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Trolling is against the rules.

jolly furnace Oct 15, 2020, 7:21 PM

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They are trolling

glad ore Oct 15, 2020, 7:21 PM

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Who's trolling, im just saying what i saw from the ad

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 7:21 PM

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time to move on

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 7:21 PM

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And taking it out of context

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The ad made hint he was chief

glad ore Oct 15, 2020, 7:21 PM

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I didnt take it out of context, thats what the ad shows cause its 5 seconds long

jolly furnace Oct 15, 2020, 7:21 PM

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Great, you've told us, Lets move on

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 7:21 PM

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agreed

glad ore Oct 15, 2020, 7:22 PM

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Lets see if the other 2 will also move on

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 7:22 PM

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So any one wanna respond to my question

dusty pilot Oct 15, 2020, 7:22 PM

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no.

glad ore Oct 15, 2020, 7:23 PM

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What question

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Nvrmd

ocean ibex Oct 15, 2020, 7:24 PM

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thinkingchief

jolly furnace Oct 15, 2020, 7:24 PM

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What?

vagrant hawk Oct 15, 2020, 7:25 PM

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That was interesting

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 7:25 PM

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So is the scene in first strike where cortana modified the plasma torps still canon?
@west silo
This one

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 7:26 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

jolly furnace Oct 15, 2020, 7:26 PM

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Yah im ure it is

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 7:26 PM

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But it can't be

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Because plasma torps are physical

vagrant hawk Oct 15, 2020, 7:27 PM

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And baboom plot hole

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thinkingchief

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 7:27 PM

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And the only way it worked in first strike was because it was plasma being held by magnetic fields

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 7:28 PM

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that's how normal plasma bolts work in halo

gilded mason Oct 15, 2020, 7:29 PM

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Yes. And lore starting with Kilo-5 has started saying the torpedos are actually physical devices.

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 7:30 PM

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And warfleet says all plasma torps are physical

jolly furnace Oct 15, 2020, 7:30 PM

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Heck if i know then

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 7:30 PM

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seems like holding onto plasma like payloads would be inefficient for plasma weapons

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 7:30 PM

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Well that's how it is now

jolly furnace Oct 15, 2020, 7:31 PM

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Maybe there are weapons that are physical ordanance and plasma ones held by magnetic fields

ocean ibex Oct 15, 2020, 7:31 PM

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That’s literally what plasma is...

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 7:31 PM

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Well warfleet made no mention of that

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Its just plasma torps are physical torpedoes

midnight loom Oct 15, 2020, 7:32 PM

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amongchief if there isnt something about cortana in infinite...

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 7:32 PM

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There will be

midnight loom Oct 15, 2020, 7:32 PM

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good.

ocean ibex Oct 15, 2020, 7:33 PM

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She’s the main villain lmao

midnight loom Oct 15, 2020, 7:33 PM

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😛

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 7:33 PM

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Maybe not immediately but she'll probably appear

midnight loom Oct 15, 2020, 7:33 PM

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thats good lol

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 7:33 PM

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Or even one of her created lackeys

ocean ibex Oct 15, 2020, 7:33 PM

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We’ll prob fight covenant splinter factions or the banished in the beginning part

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 7:34 PM

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banished

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 7:34 PM

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Banished

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 7:34 PM

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covenant is extremely beat down, if not eradicated

ocean ibex Oct 15, 2020, 7:34 PM

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Then we partner with them, bla bla bla, Cortana is defeated, bla bla bla, victory for humanity

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 7:34 PM

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couldnt do anyhting

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and the gameplay trailer already shows banished

ocean ibex Oct 15, 2020, 7:35 PM

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Ik, I’m just hoping

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 7:35 PM

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Yeah I don't old cortana is coming back

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She's too far gone

ocean ibex Oct 15, 2020, 7:36 PM

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The flood are gonna come back at the end I think

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 7:36 PM

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hope not

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 7:36 PM

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Well it zeta

ocean ibex Oct 15, 2020, 7:36 PM

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After they defeat the created, the flood will be the main enemy again

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 7:37 PM

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probably not

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 7:37 PM

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So it's a 50/50 chance

livid bluff Oct 15, 2020, 7:37 PM

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houses pf pain bros,flood is on the ring i think

ocean ibex Oct 15, 2020, 7:37 PM

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Cortana going rogue was the gravemind’s plan from the start

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 7:37 PM

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unsc have been on the ring for years before the banished show up

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 7:37 PM

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i hope theres flood, its iconic to halo

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 7:37 PM

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never reported flood

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 7:37 PM

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If they aren't mentioned on such an important ring it'd be a shame

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 7:38 PM

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they can be mentioned without physically making an appearance

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 7:38 PM

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unsc have been on the ring for years before the banished show up
@humble yacht
They've been on zeta for years?

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 7:38 PM

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yep

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 7:38 PM

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What indicates that?

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 7:38 PM

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uh

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the lore?

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 7:39 PM

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Plus it just means they never released them because they know better

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the lore?
@humble yacht
What book?

gilded mason Oct 15, 2020, 7:39 PM

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Hunters in the Dark talks about it, some.

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 7:39 PM

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Oh

midnight loom Oct 15, 2020, 7:39 PM

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lol kinda.

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mebe

gilded mason Oct 15, 2020, 7:39 PM

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The UNSC had been there for a while, but was never able to find the monitor or the Library.

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 7:39 PM

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go to halopedia, type in Zeta Halo, read

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 7:40 PM

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The UNSC had been there for a while, but was never able to find the monitor or the Library.
@gilded mason
Sounds suspicious

midnight loom Oct 15, 2020, 7:40 PM

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hmm

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 7:40 PM

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Or was that explained in Primordium

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 7:40 PM

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what happens if every piece of flood got exterminated

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 7:40 PM

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it's not the first time a monitor has been MIA

midnight loom Oct 15, 2020, 7:40 PM

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the game ends?

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 7:40 PM

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it's actually like the 3rd time

gilded mason Oct 15, 2020, 7:40 PM

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Then...every piece of flood is exterminated

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 7:40 PM

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didnt the primordial say nothing can stop the flood

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 7:41 PM

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primordium is a book

ocean ibex Oct 15, 2020, 7:41 PM

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The flood can never truly be destroyed

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 7:41 PM

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books can't talk

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lol

ocean ibex Oct 15, 2020, 7:41 PM

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thinkingchief

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 7:41 PM

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it's not the first time a monitor has been MIA
@humble yacht
And something bad always happened

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 7:41 PM

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primordial*

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 7:41 PM

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nothing bad happened when Abject Testament went MIA

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Gamma Halo ran just fine without him

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 7:42 PM

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books can't talk
@humble yacht
Audio books can

vagrant hawk Oct 15, 2020, 7:42 PM

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thinkingchief

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 7:42 PM

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Well you get it

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 7:42 PM

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why do you keep tagging me

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you know the rules say not to, right?

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 7:42 PM

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Ok

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 7:43 PM

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oh you didn't

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 7:43 PM

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No

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 7:43 PM

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well i recommend reading the rules

midnight loom Oct 15, 2020, 7:43 PM

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LORE AND UNIVERSE. FOCUS

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haha

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 7:43 PM

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Oh the whole tagging mods thing

ocean ibex Oct 15, 2020, 7:44 PM

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He’ll read your message anyways, no point in tagging in a lore channel

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 7:44 PM

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^

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stop making so much sense, daniel

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 7:44 PM

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Its a habit sorry

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 7:44 PM

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you're too logical

midnight loom Oct 15, 2020, 7:44 PM

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lol

ocean ibex Oct 15, 2020, 7:44 PM

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supercool

inner basin Oct 15, 2020, 7:45 PM

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I mean it’s not like this channel is general where your message can get buried hella quick

jolly furnace Oct 15, 2020, 7:51 PM

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As long as a single Flood spore survives somewhere in the cosmos the Flood will live on

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 7:51 PM

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what if no spore exists

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that would contradict the primordial

jolly furnace Oct 15, 2020, 7:51 PM

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then its extinct plain and simple

livid bluff Oct 15, 2020, 7:52 PM

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then the dust they spawned from i imagine is still around

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 7:52 PM

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Well there maybe flood else where

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 7:52 PM

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that dust on its own doesn't turn into flood

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 7:52 PM

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it needs to be consumed?

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 7:52 PM

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it had to go through generations of being fed to animals and those animals eating each other

livid bluff Oct 15, 2020, 7:52 PM

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ah fair enough i forgot how long that took

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also before it jumped species

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 7:53 PM

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but yeah, it's likely there are flood still outside the galaxy

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the forerunners chased them out of the galaxy the first time and then when they came back, the Forerunner-Flood War began in earnest

midnight loom Oct 15, 2020, 7:53 PM

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oh.

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 7:54 PM

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Didn't the flood predict its escape

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 7:54 PM

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the flood pretended to be beaten by refusing to infect humans so the forerunners thought humans found a cure

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 7:54 PM

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The primordial said in a 100,00 years it would return and it kinda did

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 7:54 PM

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then the flood ran away

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but it was a ploy

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forerunners spent years fruitlessly looking for a cure when they could have been preparing in other ways

livid bluff Oct 15, 2020, 7:55 PM

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ya the forunners then had a war with the humans

midnight loom Oct 15, 2020, 7:55 PM

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ya lol

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 7:55 PM

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if you became infected by the flood, wouldn't it be like being placed under an infinite tsukuyomi

ocean ibex Oct 15, 2020, 7:56 PM

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What’s that?

livid bluff Oct 15, 2020, 7:56 PM

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?? in what way?

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im an anime nerd

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 7:56 PM

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it's some naruto bs

livid bluff Oct 15, 2020, 7:56 PM

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and i assume you die when the flood get you

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 7:56 PM

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no

midnight loom Oct 15, 2020, 7:56 PM

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yeah.

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 7:56 PM

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dont you all become one

midnight loom Oct 15, 2020, 7:56 PM

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like jenkins

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:P
poor guy

livid bluff Oct 15, 2020, 7:56 PM

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they can use your brain

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but it isnt you alive anymore

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 7:56 PM

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i thought it makes all into one

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 7:57 PM

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your consciousness is added to the collective, and eternally tortured

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 7:57 PM

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then its not like that

jolly furnace Oct 15, 2020, 7:57 PM

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It would be a mercy if you just died when the Flood infects you

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Wanna avoid eternal suffering from FLood, blast ur brains out

ocean ibex Oct 15, 2020, 7:58 PM

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Nope, you would get resurrected

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 7:58 PM

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Fun fact when the flood is in pain its not the flood form feeling it it's the victim

ocean ibex Oct 15, 2020, 7:58 PM

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And tortured while being part of a grave mind

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 7:58 PM

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yeah im good

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 7:59 PM

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Its better to just incinerate your self

midnight loom Oct 15, 2020, 7:59 PM

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im not doin that,.

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 7:59 PM

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i understand why people committed suicide after interogating the primordial

ocean ibex Oct 15, 2020, 7:59 PM

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I always thought infection forms were a host of a really weird creature

jolly furnace Oct 15, 2020, 7:59 PM

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Only hope of ever exterminating the Flood permanently is if the Precursors come back and do or the Flood decides to commit suicide basically

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 8:00 PM

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Or commit planet wide suicide like the forerunners in renegade

ocean ibex Oct 15, 2020, 8:01 PM

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@flat bone it was mendicant bias that did most of the interrogation

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And that took like 40 years

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 8:01 PM

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i know

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 8:01 PM

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43.17 years or something like that

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 8:02 PM

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but at some point humans did and commited suicide

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or forunners i forgot

livid bluff Oct 15, 2020, 8:03 PM

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quick look at the pedias for halo here has nothing on being assimilated into a greater consciousness

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 8:03 PM

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what search term did you use?

livid bluff Oct 15, 2020, 8:04 PM

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the one im looking at is halopedia, flood section

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https://www.halopedia.org/Flood

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Neurological

Pod infectors selectively target species that possess sentient intelligence and are of sufficient biomass, and can infest intact or lightly wounded dead bodies. As a host organism is killed by the initial attack, Pod infectors use tendrils that pierce the skin of the host and find their way to the spinal cord. They then synchronize with the host's nervous system and gain control of their body, replacing its now-absent consciousness with the ravenous and voracious psyche of the Flood. Any useful information present within the memory centers of the host's brain, such as battle strategies and technical knowledge, is retained for use by the Flood. Despite this lingering of certain memories, no trace of the original mind remains; only a simplistic and primal urge to assimilate other species drives the organism after infection. However, the entirety of the host's mental content is seemingly absorbed and added to the whole, as the Gravemind has shown to be able to simulate its victims' consciousnesses within itself.[55][56]

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comes with sources at the bottom, 55 and 56

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ah wait i didnt read the bottom

gilded mason Oct 15, 2020, 8:05 PM

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lol

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 8:05 PM

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big rip

livid bluff Oct 15, 2020, 8:05 PM

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dang dyslexia

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 8:05 PM

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always important to read to the end

ocean ibex Oct 15, 2020, 8:05 PM

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Big lul

livid bluff Oct 15, 2020, 8:05 PM

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welp i found out anyways

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well did my friend, brains fried lol

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 8:06 PM

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i mean the term Gravemind comes from the fact that it's made up of the collective knowledge of the dead

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and then in other media you can further see how it assimilates and tortures its victims

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like in the CEA terminal for Keyes

livid bluff Oct 15, 2020, 8:08 PM

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ya i get that i guess i just didn't think it "simulated" the consciousness of the dead into some hell torment and just used the dead neurological pathways of its victims to increase its intelligence and use their knowledge.

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 8:10 PM

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Well the primordial is one edgy boi

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 8:10 PM

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i mean, it's not like Halo tries to define the "soul" or anything like that

livid bluff Oct 15, 2020, 8:11 PM

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very true

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 8:11 PM

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i think for halo, one's consciousness and their soul are synonomous

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 8:12 PM

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Essence the most sci fi word for soul possible

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 8:12 PM

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hence why the spartan IIs' clones were independent

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they didn't share consciousness with their donors

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 8:14 PM

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Am pretty sure there was something else with that clone

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Daisys clone even had dreams of her being a Spartan

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 8:17 PM

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i chalk that up to anime bs

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trying to suggest some psychic link between them

midnight loom Oct 15, 2020, 8:25 PM

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wha- srsly?

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daisy from legends?

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 8:27 PM

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yeah

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i don't think they were really psychically linked tho

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Legends took plenty of artistic license

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Daisy's teddy bear should be a weapon charm in Infinite

midnight loom Oct 15, 2020, 8:28 PM

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eh... thats fair. ooh yeah.

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 9:03 PM

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no, you can't actually cook them like popcorn

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 9:03 PM

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No

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The ATN expansion shows they don't explode on death

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And it was shot by a spiker

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 9:05 PM

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canonically I think they are filled with some gas so that would explain why they pop the way they do in the games

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 9:05 PM

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Well the flood does take some game play things as canon

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Like a pistol oneshotting a hunter

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But one shot wouldn't kill a hunter

ocean ibex Oct 15, 2020, 9:08 PM

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Explosive rounds work really well on hunters tho

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 9:08 PM

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Oh and hunters with " spines"

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 9:08 PM

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not in legendary halo 5, they almost only take damage from the back

ocean ibex Oct 15, 2020, 9:08 PM

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Their armor is very thick

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 9:08 PM

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kinda annoying in halo 5

inner jolt Oct 15, 2020, 9:08 PM

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THICC

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 9:09 PM

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There the best in 5

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They actually feel like a boss

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 9:10 PM

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true

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 9:10 PM

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yeah well large health pools will do that postums

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 9:10 PM

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And there weapons

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Are actually dangerous

ocean ibex Oct 15, 2020, 9:11 PM

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Do they typically explode on death? Halo: The Flood makes mention of Chief’s assault rifle making them pop like balloons, but in awakening the nightmare the one that gets shot by the brutes doesn’t
@versed helm I think it’s cuz of the original Xbox’s capabilities at the time, it’s much easier to let them pop rather than just letting them stay there. Plus the cutscenes in HW2 look much better than the gameplay lmao

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Nothing to do with lore

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 9:12 PM

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the hunter cannon reqs are dubious in how they work in spartan hands

ocean ibex Oct 15, 2020, 9:14 PM

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I mean the book came out in 2003, people mostly based the lore off of gameplay

midnight loom Oct 15, 2020, 9:15 PM

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hmm

wispy wasp Oct 15, 2020, 9:17 PM

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not sure if this is the best place to ask, but are the only similarities between space colony ark and high charity is that they look kinda similar to each other?

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 10:33 PM

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He's talking about how the space station in sonic adventure 2 looks similar to high charity

wispy wasp Oct 15, 2020, 10:38 PM

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i was wondering if there were any other similarites besides looks

west silo Oct 15, 2020, 10:42 PM

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There both space stations?

wispy wasp Oct 15, 2020, 10:55 PM

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your not wrong

vague scroll Oct 15, 2020, 10:55 PM

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they're both rocky and purple

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if you want another mushroom-shaped space station I guess, Mass Effect's Omega is pretty similar in appearance too

livid bluff Oct 15, 2020, 11:01 PM

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its clearly all connected

lean karma Oct 15, 2020, 11:21 PM

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bruh

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what halo game has the best soundtrack?

midnight loom Oct 15, 2020, 11:23 PM

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reach?

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no... 4

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or 3 odst

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😛

flat bone Oct 15, 2020, 11:24 PM

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Halo 2 mjolnir mix was good

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So was one final effort

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From halo 3

midnight loom Oct 15, 2020, 11:24 PM

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ghosts and glass is good.

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something about vibe

lean karma Oct 15, 2020, 11:31 PM

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not a single song lmao, New alexandria or the drums on halo main theme take the cake easy, im talking overall lmao

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honestly really did like the Halo 5 light is green too

terse lava Oct 15, 2020, 11:43 PM

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I would say halo 2 had the best. Had music that was fitting for both humanity and the Covenant

humble yacht Oct 15, 2020, 11:59 PM

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Shifting back to lore talk, what do you think traditional covie music was like? Hymns?

midnight loom Oct 16, 2020, 12:00 AM

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hmm

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well

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they are a religous colt after all...

versed helm Oct 16, 2020, 12:01 AM

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Hmm that's a good but difficult question since there's very little info about the early covenant

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But at least Halo 5 had Sangheili traditional chanting so

midnight loom Oct 16, 2020, 12:01 AM

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gruntgruntgruntgruntgrunt

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most of the covies were gruns right?

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*grunts

versed helm Oct 16, 2020, 12:02 AM

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in terms of sheer numbers, sure. But I don't think anyone would consider them "the most" there. Plus I think they were very primitive when first conquered

humble yacht Oct 16, 2020, 12:02 AM

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Grunts were numerous but also low on the totem pole

midnight loom Oct 16, 2020, 12:05 AM

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hmm

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but even so, that meant if there was music there would be lots of grunt music right?

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gruntgruntgruntgruntgrunt

versed helm Oct 16, 2020, 12:07 AM

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maybe if grunts could somehow harmonize their whining lol

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The kig yar don't strike me as very cultural-focused tbh, at most they form clans around matriarchs but I think that's it. Lekgolo and yanmee are out of the question too. That only leaves the sangheili I think

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Brutes, maybe? idk

gilded mason Oct 16, 2020, 12:15 AM

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I think that's an unknown

west silo Oct 16, 2020, 12:16 AM

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We know its not as advanced as the others

versed helm Oct 16, 2020, 12:16 AM

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Action movie hero kills Arbiter in armor with an SMG burst

west silo Oct 16, 2020, 12:16 AM

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Well active camo wise

terse lava Oct 16, 2020, 12:18 AM

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Well I am unsure if it can be a 1:1 comparison, we see sangheili armor 3400 years ago at the dawn of the Covenant was able to take a gravity beam from a San shyuum hover chair

versed helm Oct 16, 2020, 12:18 AM

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What

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W h a t

west silo Oct 16, 2020, 12:18 AM

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Gravity beam?

terse lava Oct 16, 2020, 12:18 AM

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Still hurt the sangheili, but didn't kill him

versed helm Oct 16, 2020, 12:18 AM

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I think he means the old guy throne

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With cannons

terse lava Oct 16, 2020, 12:19 AM

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Yeah...they are called gravity cannons

west silo Oct 16, 2020, 12:19 AM

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Grav throne

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How do those work?

versed helm Oct 16, 2020, 12:19 AM

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Ado, what Elite was that?

terse lava Oct 16, 2020, 12:19 AM

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Vil 'Kthamee, a ranger

west silo Oct 16, 2020, 12:20 AM

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Rangers shields are strong

terse lava Oct 16, 2020, 12:20 AM

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Shields didn't exist yet

pale zephyr Oct 16, 2020, 12:20 AM

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thinkingchief

west silo Oct 16, 2020, 12:20 AM

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Because there working in ship boarding that can be very hazardous

terse lava Oct 16, 2020, 12:20 AM

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He took it bare armor

west silo Oct 16, 2020, 12:20 AM

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Oh

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Then in broken circle brute gravity hammers were turning elites into paste with one hit

gilded mason Oct 16, 2020, 12:22 AM

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Yes.

west silo Oct 16, 2020, 12:22 AM

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These were the council members who I supposed had more advanced armor

gilded mason Oct 16, 2020, 12:22 AM

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It is a very good book

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So read it

terse lava Oct 16, 2020, 12:23 AM

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They don't literally shoot gravity, they are just advanced assault cannons

west silo Oct 16, 2020, 12:23 AM

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One of the only coveant centric book

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So it's gotta be good

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Constraint fields

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Basically techno force

terse lava Oct 16, 2020, 12:25 AM

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Yep, forerunner technology able to hold someone in place

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Just an armor thing though, not a mind thing

west silo Oct 16, 2020, 12:25 AM

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There ships use them as well

terse lava Oct 16, 2020, 12:25 AM

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So did Covenant vessels too

west silo Oct 16, 2020, 12:26 AM

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Really?

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Gravity lift?

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That's the only one I can think of

terse lava Oct 16, 2020, 12:27 AM

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Stasis fields

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You see the small anti air aircraft vampire make use of it in halo wars

versed helm Oct 16, 2020, 12:29 AM

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iirc in Broken Circle they use some gravity plates during an interrogation

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But it's like those grav plates from Dead Space I think

terse lava Oct 16, 2020, 12:29 AM

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A gravity refinement room

gilded mason Oct 16, 2020, 12:30 AM

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Allows for very fine gravity manipulation with pinpoint accuracy and levels of force. With...quite the results.

terse lava Oct 16, 2020, 12:30 AM

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Yep

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Could hold you down to the ground, while putting the literal gravity of a gas giant on just your hand

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Flatten it to microns

gilded mason Oct 16, 2020, 12:31 AM

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Eyuuuuup

versed helm Oct 16, 2020, 12:31 AM

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Maybe one day I'll re-read broken circle again

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If I can manage to get past the names that feel made up by a 5 year old

west silo Oct 16, 2020, 12:32 AM

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There not that bad

versed helm Oct 16, 2020, 12:33 AM

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Yeah it's probably just a 'me' kinda thing, but ugh, I can't. I really can't. I just physically recoil from it when reading certain names for some reason

cedar surge Oct 16, 2020, 12:34 AM

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You got examples?

terse lava Oct 16, 2020, 12:36 AM

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I saw nothing wrong with the names

cedar surge Oct 16, 2020, 12:36 AM

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So the covenant got multiple big city movable space stations

versed helm Oct 16, 2020, 12:36 AM

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I know that my eyes rolled endlessly at "The Planet of Blue and Red"

cedar surge Oct 16, 2020, 12:36 AM

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Wha

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That's so simple

versed helm Oct 16, 2020, 12:36 AM

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I think back then it just felt extremely lazy

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But I'm looking at the characters and location names in the book and can't find anything out of the ordinary... So maybe it wasn't names per se. Maybe something to do with the way places were described, I'm not sure

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I just know there was something there that kept sapping my desire to keep reading for like the first 1/3 or 1/4 of the book. Obviously it got better and I ended up liking it a lot, but that was probably like well halfway through

terse lava Oct 16, 2020, 12:40 AM

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I enjoyed it start to finish. Was refreshing to have a story not deep in the forerunner era or the modern timeline

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Made me feel for the characters

jolly furnace Oct 16, 2020, 12:44 AM

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The Forerunner Saga feels like the Silmarillion of Halo for me

west silo Oct 16, 2020, 12:47 AM

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What's that mean?

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I have no idea what silmarillion is

terse lava Oct 16, 2020, 12:48 AM

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Its a series of book by Tolkien, that focus on the mythic times of the Lord of the Rings series

jolly furnace Oct 16, 2020, 12:48 AM

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The Silmarillion is a collection of mythopoeic stories by the English writer J. R. R. Tolkien, edited and published posthumously by his son Christopher Tolkien in 1977 with assistance from Guy Gavriel Kay.

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It covers the creation of the universe to the main stuff in the eras of history and events prior to events of The Hobbit and Lord of the Rings

west silo Oct 16, 2020, 12:50 AM

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So stories from the creator of TLOTR son?

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Oh so prequel books

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That sounds good

jolly furnace Oct 16, 2020, 12:50 AM

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It was started by the creator of LOTR but he died before he could finish it

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It was his life's work

west silo Oct 16, 2020, 12:51 AM

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So his son finished it for him

jolly furnace Oct 16, 2020, 12:51 AM

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Ya

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As best he could

terse lava Oct 16, 2020, 12:52 AM

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is pretty sweet

west silo Oct 16, 2020, 12:52 AM

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I heard the pretty books had planet busting elves

jolly furnace Oct 16, 2020, 12:53 AM

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More like continent busting divine spirits

west silo Oct 16, 2020, 12:53 AM

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Yeah and first age elves

jolly furnace Oct 16, 2020, 12:54 AM

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Yah

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and demons

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and a giant Spider

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Granted if said divine spirits were not restricted in power they would be planet busting easily I'd say

west silo Oct 16, 2020, 12:56 AM

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So planet busters

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Really makes you wonder what happened?

jolly furnace Oct 16, 2020, 12:57 AM

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I'm speculating on true power level based on their role in the creation of the universe

west silo Oct 16, 2020, 12:57 AM

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Especially the fact that smog the most powerful being in TLOTR was the weakest Dragon ever

jolly furnace Oct 16, 2020, 12:58 AM

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Well he was the greatest dragon of that age

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But then he may have been the only one left

west silo Oct 16, 2020, 12:58 AM

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Because all the others were dead

jolly furnace Oct 16, 2020, 12:58 AM

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Apparently yes

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#DragonLivesMatter

west silo Oct 16, 2020, 1:00 AM

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Man remember when the most powerful thing we saw was defeated because someone said you cannot past

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Then we learned said being in the book could destroy mountains

jolly furnace Oct 16, 2020, 1:15 AM

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Yah

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I mean their battle was like a storm on that peak

west silo Oct 16, 2020, 1:23 AM

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Not in the movie

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Just some light and a deep cliff

midnight loom Oct 16, 2020, 2:13 AM

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uh...?

cinder sluice Oct 16, 2020, 2:44 AM

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what

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@cinder sluice

stable flower Oct 16, 2020, 2:58 AM

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Did the UNSC have a strategy for taking on another conventional military force prior to the Covenant War?

cedar surge Oct 16, 2020, 3:09 AM

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What other conventional military would there be

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Humans only knew humans at that point

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Most would have likely believed only humans existed

barren pike Oct 16, 2020, 3:09 AM

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the decepticons.

cedar surge Oct 16, 2020, 3:09 AM

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And most threats were on the inside

spiral jewel Oct 16, 2020, 3:14 AM

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I wonder what the Banished 's thoughts/reaction to the destruction of Alpha Halo (at the end of CE) was, if they had any... That's assuming they caught wind of it at some point

cedar surge Oct 16, 2020, 3:27 AM

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"Eh,doesn't really impact us"

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They could scavenge it for the once seen but hopefully never seen plot point again of anew element created that specifically harms humans for no good reason

humble yacht Oct 16, 2020, 4:19 AM

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I wonder what the Banished 's thoughts/reaction to the destruction of Alpha Halo (at the end of CE) was, if they had any... That's assuming they caught wind of it at some point
Well at that point, it's not like they would have any idea what the Halos actually did

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as far as we know, Sesa was the first to learn the truth, since Spark told him. But it's not like that info was advertised widely

fair hazel Oct 16, 2020, 4:31 AM

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well they might have been happy about it

humble yacht Oct 16, 2020, 4:36 AM

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it's unclear how attached to the religion the Banished would have been around that time

fair hazel Oct 16, 2020, 4:40 AM

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atriox at least, not very

versed helm Oct 16, 2020, 4:42 AM

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Atriox probably wasnt even the Atriox we now know at that point in time

humble yacht Oct 16, 2020, 4:45 AM

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Atriox was pretty fine blaspheming against the Covenant as early as his execution

fair hazel Oct 16, 2020, 4:45 AM

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he seemed mostly consistent after he formed the banished in the comic

humble yacht Oct 16, 2020, 4:45 AM

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seems he was pretty ready to abandon his faith

fair hazel Oct 16, 2020, 4:45 AM

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well, before the banished

gilded mason Oct 16, 2020, 4:45 AM

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You mean he is consistent from the comics all the way to HW2, or something else?

fair hazel Oct 16, 2020, 4:48 AM

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yeah in this subject

gilded mason Oct 16, 2020, 4:48 AM

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As in, only in the aspect of religion?

fair hazel Oct 16, 2020, 4:49 AM

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this is the subject of discussion, did you want to argue somethign else?

gilded mason Oct 16, 2020, 4:50 AM

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Uh, no? I just didn't know if you were being general or not.

fair hazel Oct 16, 2020, 4:50 AM

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ah, ok. speaking of the comic

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imagine if someone did a video render of the let 'volir issue

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that's honestly this really epic moment

versed helm Oct 16, 2020, 6:03 AM

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that would.be pretty cool

fair hazel Oct 16, 2020, 6:06 AM

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There is something about. Purposely captured. Boarding ship but try to cause as little casualties as possible.

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Then you hold conversation. So well you persuade the other side to join you.

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The ship is surrounded and it breaks formation. Pulls of an epic move. Then gets out of there

versed helm Oct 16, 2020, 6:32 AM

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guys i just noticed something idk if any1 else knows this but have you noticed how the flood dont see the difference between a low rank grunt or jackal or the highest rank of the covenant,a hierarch , the flood infected all of them and used them as biomass i think it was a clever way of showing that at the end of the day we are all the same the flood saw no difference in a measly jackal or a noble hierarch because we are all basically meat we are the same

flat bone Oct 16, 2020, 6:58 AM

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Like my friend said “ we are all equally edible”

craggy sierra Oct 16, 2020, 7:05 AM

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I mean...why would the flood care about rank to begin with?

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They’re zombies. They don’t care what armour colour you wear and I don’t know why there’d even be a notion they did at any point ever.

young mortar Oct 16, 2020, 7:46 AM

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Well the flood are very smart at least the gravemind is so the flood might know that its more strategic to take out the higher ups and the leadership to cripple the rest of the forces

craggy sierra Oct 16, 2020, 7:48 AM

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The way he was saying it sounded like the implication was that they’d have a specific use for higher ranked enemies to do something when like...why would they?

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Personal training and experiences aren’t relevant to the flood

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Being a higher rank doesn’t get you anything if you get absorbed

young mortar Oct 16, 2020, 7:49 AM

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It gets you intelligence

craggy sierra Oct 16, 2020, 7:49 AM

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Not really. It steals your intelligence but you yourself are not given special treatment for it in the flood.

torpid shell Oct 16, 2020, 7:50 AM

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u never know

young mortar Oct 16, 2020, 7:50 AM

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Oh that makes sense i can See that

craggy sierra Oct 16, 2020, 7:50 AM

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No...you kinda do know.

torpid shell Oct 16, 2020, 7:50 AM

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lol

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but dead people dont speak

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so do you know?

young mortar Oct 16, 2020, 7:51 AM

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Basically all it does for the flood to convert a higher up like a zealot or something is that it gives the flood their increased intelligence and knowledge

torpid shell Oct 16, 2020, 7:52 AM

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hmmm

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ok

young mortar Oct 16, 2020, 7:52 AM

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Then their body is tossed aside and used as cannon fodder

torpid shell Oct 16, 2020, 7:52 AM

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smart game ai

craggy sierra Oct 16, 2020, 7:52 AM

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Also the books have covered in detail what flood absorption does.

torpid shell Oct 16, 2020, 7:53 AM

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ok

young mortar Oct 16, 2020, 7:53 AM

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Which book

torpid shell Oct 16, 2020, 7:53 AM

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@craggy sierra who rlly reads alllllll the books, u play the games

young mortar Oct 16, 2020, 7:53 AM

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I've only read a few books not all of them

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People who like the lore that's who

craggy sierra Oct 16, 2020, 7:54 AM

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@craggy sierra who rlly reads alllllll the books, u play the games
@torpid shell more people than not in the lore channel

young mortar Oct 16, 2020, 7:54 AM

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I love the lore so when I can I read a halo book

torpid shell Oct 16, 2020, 7:54 AM

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should i read da books

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??

young mortar Oct 16, 2020, 7:55 AM

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If you like lore then yea

craggy sierra Oct 16, 2020, 7:55 AM

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If you want. Audiobooks are also viable.

torpid shell Oct 16, 2020, 7:55 AM

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ok

young mortar Oct 16, 2020, 7:55 AM

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My favourite one is 'Bad Blood' with buck and the lot

torpid shell Oct 16, 2020, 7:56 AM

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anyone gonna read the new book

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shadows of reach

young mortar Oct 16, 2020, 7:56 AM

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Most likely when I can buy it

craggy sierra Oct 16, 2020, 7:56 AM

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Probably gonna get the audiobook

torpid shell Oct 16, 2020, 7:56 AM

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ok

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this is random

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what console do u play halo on

young mortar Oct 16, 2020, 7:58 AM

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Xbox

torpid shell Oct 16, 2020, 7:58 AM

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or do u play pc

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ok

young mortar Oct 16, 2020, 7:59 AM

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The og console

torpid shell Oct 16, 2020, 7:59 AM

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rlly

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the original xbox

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?

young mortar Oct 16, 2020, 7:59 AM

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No no no Xbox one

torpid shell Oct 16, 2020, 7:59 AM

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lol ok

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hmm

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u gonna get the series x

young mortar Oct 16, 2020, 8:00 AM

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Also Man U sux, Man City for the win

torpid shell Oct 16, 2020, 8:00 AM

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yeah

young mortar Oct 16, 2020, 8:00 AM

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Uea most likely

torpid shell Oct 16, 2020, 8:00 AM

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nah

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man city sucks rn

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1-1 with leeds

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tho man u is not that much better

young mortar Oct 16, 2020, 8:00 AM

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Yea kinda have to agree

torpid shell Oct 16, 2020, 8:00 AM

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6-1 to TOTTENHAM

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AHHH

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:(

analog jungle Oct 16, 2020, 8:35 AM

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where are the precursors

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the primordial alive ???? halo infinite????

carmine sleet Oct 16, 2020, 9:23 AM

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The Primordial became the Gravemind when the Primordial's body was destroyed (Someone who is an expert on the Forerunner trilogy, please tell me if I'm wrong)

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And I doubt we'll see either the Precursors or the Primordial show up

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Like, the Precursors are literally impossible to fight given that they're basically gods

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Not to mention it wouldn't really make sense to bring them in

versed helm Oct 16, 2020, 9:49 AM

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@analog jungle is that your cat?

analog jungle Oct 16, 2020, 9:49 AM

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hi

versed helm Oct 16, 2020, 9:50 AM

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Hey

flat bone Oct 16, 2020, 10:51 AM

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how is it impossible to fight them, the forerunners did

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unless you mean as a single spartan

versed helm Oct 16, 2020, 12:40 PM

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I would say that was more “play”

lapis ferry Oct 16, 2020, 12:41 PM

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The precursors let themselves get killed by the forerunners

versed helm Oct 16, 2020, 12:41 PM

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The Primordial likes to mess around with it’s foes, challenge them but not to the point of blind torture

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Wants to see them learn

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Develop hope and the like, before crushing them

flat bone Oct 16, 2020, 12:43 PM

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k

craggy sierra Oct 16, 2020, 1:30 PM

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The forerunners are by far and away much more advanced then us and the details of how they beat the precursors are vague at best.

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Besides precursors wouldn’t exactly be able to do much in modern story.

flat bone Oct 16, 2020, 1:33 PM

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The precursors let themselves get killed by the forerunners

ocean ibex Oct 16, 2020, 2:47 PM

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Correct me if I’m wrong, but why does halo 5 say that the domain is a forerunner artifact

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Or structure

craggy sierra Oct 16, 2020, 2:49 PM

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As opposed to?

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A windows server?

ocean ibex Oct 16, 2020, 2:50 PM

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Nvm, I’m wrong, it looked like it at first

craggy sierra Oct 16, 2020, 2:51 PM

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Like it is a forerunner thing

ocean ibex Oct 16, 2020, 2:51 PM

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I meant it said it was created by the forerunners

craggy sierra Oct 16, 2020, 2:52 PM

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Basically an intergalactic and also possibly somewhat sentient cloud network.

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Wasn’t it?

ocean ibex Oct 16, 2020, 2:52 PM

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It’s a precursor artifact

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It stored 100 billion years worth of knowledge in there

craggy sierra Oct 16, 2020, 2:53 PM

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Well there’s something else when you have to consider with Halo and writing stories in broad universes

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Halo: Cryptum wasn’t a book that was published in-universe

ocean ibex Oct 16, 2020, 2:54 PM

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I guess, halo has a ton of annoying plot holes

craggy sierra Oct 16, 2020, 2:54 PM

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People in 2560 don’t have the same knowledge we’ve gleamed from the books that were set during the forerunner era

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It’s not a plot hole

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If you’re alive in 2558 or whenever and come across some ancient alien stuff, you’re probably just gonna say “yep, that’s forerunner alright.”

ocean ibex Oct 16, 2020, 2:55 PM

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Oh yeah that’s right, the librarian never explained who the precursors were to chief, she only mentioned them as “the creators”

craggy sierra Oct 16, 2020, 2:55 PM

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Few if any of the characters alive in the modern Halo setting know the full scope of the details from the Forerunner bovels

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I doubt any of them even know what a precursor is

ocean ibex Oct 16, 2020, 2:57 PM

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Did the covenant know what they were?

west silo Oct 16, 2020, 2:57 PM

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Weren't the events in crytum recorded by oni?

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And in Primordium the ship ended up dying

craggy sierra Oct 16, 2020, 2:58 PM

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Spark kinda killed everyone on that ship and then flew it into the middle of nowhere.

west silo Oct 16, 2020, 2:59 PM

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And they found a dead forerunner cyborg in silentium with the events of the book

ocean ibex Oct 16, 2020, 2:59 PM

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If the Janice key was still intact, would it have located the domain?

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Or at least maythrillian

west silo Oct 16, 2020, 2:59 PM

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Its not forerunner

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But it would locate genisis

ocean ibex Oct 16, 2020, 3:00 PM

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It was near maythrillian though

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I think it was that

west silo Oct 16, 2020, 3:00 PM

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Which has an entrance to the domain

versed helm Oct 16, 2020, 3:44 PM

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Maethrillian has the precursor artifact that houses the domain, right?

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I dont remember what its called

ripe cypress Oct 16, 2020, 3:45 PM

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oh

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that makes sence CSGO117

versed helm Oct 16, 2020, 3:46 PM

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But i remember that it ＂judged＂ the Librarian and the other forerunners

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If the Janice key was still intact, would it have located the domain?
@ocean ibex its the Janus key.

ocean ibex Oct 16, 2020, 3:57 PM

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Got it

jolly furnace Oct 16, 2020, 4:17 PM

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Janus Key is with Custodian at the Absolute Record (wherever that is now)

ocean ibex Oct 16, 2020, 4:29 PM

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It was destroyed

cosmic river Oct 16, 2020, 4:43 PM

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@jolly furnace they did not want to keep that plot line going so it broke or something in a comic

humble yacht Oct 16, 2020, 4:46 PM

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The Janus Key is not destroyed

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It was just taken from Halsey

jolly furnace Oct 16, 2020, 4:48 PM

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Janus key is in plot limbo right now

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along with Absolute Record

west silo Oct 16, 2020, 4:49 PM

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Didn't halsey hack the ai that took it

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So where did he go with it

humble yacht Oct 16, 2020, 4:52 PM

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Into slipspace

cosmic river Oct 16, 2020, 4:53 PM

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Into the plot limbo void

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And where is the super composed uber Didact from the comic?

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What about the 6 other composers?

humble yacht Oct 16, 2020, 4:57 PM

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Didact should be in the Composers Abyss with all the other composed people

jolly furnace Oct 16, 2020, 5:07 PM

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Should be. Probably won't be

west silo Oct 16, 2020, 5:07 PM

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Isn't he in the domain?

humble yacht Oct 16, 2020, 5:07 PM

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He shouldn’t be

west silo Oct 16, 2020, 5:07 PM

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Remembering his wife

humble yacht Oct 16, 2020, 5:07 PM

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That’s not how composing worked before

west silo Oct 16, 2020, 5:07 PM

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It's in a coloring book

humble yacht Oct 16, 2020, 5:07 PM

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Tbh that coloring book cause more problems than it solved

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In Dominion Splinter, the Warden tells Cortana that he considers the composed fake AI and refused to allow them into the domain

jolly furnace Oct 16, 2020, 5:09 PM

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Don't expect 343i to put Didact in Composer's Abyss. Watch them handwave it by saying it was cause he was hit by 6 composers at once or cause they weren't linked to the Abyss

humble yacht Oct 16, 2020, 5:09 PM

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And Escalation shows the composed essences as being trapped in a room called the Abyss

west silo Oct 16, 2020, 5:10 PM

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Well the coloring book was released after the escalations issue

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It's probably just a retcon

humble yacht Oct 16, 2020, 5:13 PM

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The Abyss could be considered Domain-adjacent so maybe it's possible he is in there

fair hazel Oct 16, 2020, 5:18 PM

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I doubt he’s simply trapped in the abyss

humble yacht Oct 16, 2020, 5:19 PM

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he should be. it's as much as he deserves

fair hazel Oct 16, 2020, 5:21 PM

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Deserves..? As a character?

jolly furnace Oct 16, 2020, 5:21 PM

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He won't be 99% sure of it

fair hazel Oct 16, 2020, 5:21 PM

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I think many people will disagree.

humble yacht Oct 16, 2020, 5:22 PM

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deserves it because he was an a-hole

west silo Oct 16, 2020, 5:29 PM

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Well only because he went insane because of the gravemind

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Am pretty sure if he was still sane hr wouldn't have even attempted to use the composer

humble yacht Oct 16, 2020, 5:30 PM

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let's not pretend that he wasn't already problematic before that

west silo Oct 16, 2020, 5:30 PM

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He wasn't really

humble yacht Oct 16, 2020, 5:30 PM

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he was a human hater even before encountering the gravemind

west silo Oct 16, 2020, 5:30 PM

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He even started to get along with the humans in crytum

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Before Faber abandoned him in flood space

humble yacht Oct 16, 2020, 5:31 PM

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he tolerated them

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he complained about them being too similar to their ancient predecessors

west silo Oct 16, 2020, 5:32 PM

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Arrogant?

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And to be honest the ancient humans weren't that friendly either

humble yacht Oct 16, 2020, 5:33 PM

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yeah but he held a grudge and profiled humans because of it

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Didact was a bigot

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or at least a Forerunner-supremacist

west silo Oct 16, 2020, 5:35 PM

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Yeah he did believe in forerunner supermajority

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Then again most forerunners did

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I guess it what happens when you become top dog

jolly furnace Oct 16, 2020, 5:38 PM

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Didact wasn't perfect but his encounter with GM destroyed whatever nobility or good traits he still had

west silo Oct 16, 2020, 5:39 PM

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And to be honest one reason he really hated humanity was because all of his children died in there war against them

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Like 11 I think

jolly furnace Oct 16, 2020, 5:40 PM

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Didn't help his opinion

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Same would go for any humans or SanShyuum who's kids died to him or his warriors

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Humans and Forerunners were more or less the same as each other

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Neither was morally superior

dusty prawn Oct 16, 2020, 5:45 PM

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@west silo a lot of what was said about ancient humanity changes depending on the perspective and source. It’s probably safe to say that the ancient humans being violence crazy xenophobes is a post-devolution excuse from unreliable narration. Halo 4 painted a different picture than cryptum, and gave different reasons than the librarian expo string in silentium. In my own opinion UrDidact wasn’t as bad as Faber the master jerk until after the Burn stay he had. Then went to absolute hell and made librarian do a sad.

west silo Oct 16, 2020, 5:46 PM

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Man no one is as bad as faber

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Ok the primordial is

jolly furnace Oct 16, 2020, 5:47 PM

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Chakas saw memories from them and said they believed in making many souls by expanding by conquering

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If i recall that part right

west silo Oct 16, 2020, 5:47 PM

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Yeah

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I don't remember the conquering part

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But the souls part is there

jolly furnace Oct 16, 2020, 5:49 PM

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Regardless of the pressure on their growing populations and the Flood, humans were also said to be particularly cruel toward other species. Chakas, examining the harvested memories of his ancestors imprinted to him as part of a geas, discovered that they believed in "creating many souls", or expanding their population by conquering and claiming other worlds.[40]

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Cryptum 130

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I think

west silo Oct 16, 2020, 5:49 PM

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Yep ancient humanity were jerks

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And the forerunners were just more advanced jerks

jolly furnace Oct 16, 2020, 5:52 PM

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https://www.wattpad.com/622881211-halo-cryptum-twelve/page/9

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First sentences

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Riser says learning of human ancestors via memories make him and Chakas unhappy

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when he brings up the souls bit

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Suggests how this is done is not a pleasant act

west silo Oct 16, 2020, 6:03 PM

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So we're the all the flora and fauna on the list gone?

humble yacht Oct 16, 2020, 6:03 PM

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Huh?

west silo Oct 16, 2020, 6:04 PM

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The above

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They go to a planet to find some animals and plants but there all dead

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Killed by the halo

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Nothing above a millimeter survived

humble yacht Oct 16, 2020, 6:05 PM

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Halos shouldn’t kill plants

west silo Oct 16, 2020, 6:05 PM

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That's what am asking

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Because the scene implies it did kill them

stable flower Oct 16, 2020, 6:06 PM

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What other conventional military would there be
@cedar surge Maybe a separatist military a la Separatist Droid Army. It doesn't have to be a non-human military. P.S. I know this was hours ago but I didn't see it till now.

west silo Oct 16, 2020, 6:06 PM

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And the plants apparently learned how to communicate using bugs and scents

midnight loom Oct 16, 2020, 6:44 PM

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rlly?

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woah

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???

dusty prawn Oct 16, 2020, 6:50 PM

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@jolly furnace Directly after the UrDidact was telling Chakas where the fighting was the hardest. After explaining Charum Hakkor, he goes on to say that Chaka's People "were the most cruel when they savaged worlds where Forerunners had resettled other species. The pressure of their growing populations was strong. They annihilated fifty defenseless systems and sowed their conquests with human colonies before we coordinated and drove them back to the outer reaches of the spiral arm. They believed-"
"In creating many souls". Chakas then says he's learning much about his ancestors while he is looking in his own head. When I first read this part of it I took it at face value because I didn't have any other source. And then it mentions later how humans would have turned on their san'shyuum allies eventually, which is another wholly forerunner perspective. But what does Chakas actually see? In Halo 4 Librarian revealed that humans were expanding, they were running. But Really, in the terminals later we see that they weren't even running, they were fighting. Forethencho had to bombard a world with flood on it and had no choice, one and many that were of other species. These "colonies" could have not been colonies at all. And It's possible the souls they did believe in creating weren't complete malice. Big grey area.

midnight loom Oct 16, 2020, 6:51 PM

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woah

dusty prawn Oct 16, 2020, 6:52 PM

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@humble yacht they were special plants

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"Next came flora, including dense aboreal forests. Many of the original trees had acquired a kind of long-term intelligence..."
Bam, intelligence = deadzone. That's why you want to be as dumb as possible when the halo fires. It might miss.

humble yacht Oct 16, 2020, 6:54 PM

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the halos target nervous systems of a certain level. so unless these trees had brains, the halos shouldn't have done anything to them

dusty prawn Oct 16, 2020, 6:54 PM

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also says that the signal carriers were analogous to neurons, if that helps. Even though they were hormonal and biological fungal/bacterial/viral life

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Little is honestly understood about it, except that it will kill anything with so much of a notocord. What are neurons? Cells. Why would a pules only kill those cells? There's a certain level of mysticism and understanding that we probably understand very little about the underlying inter-dimensional Halo planes of existence. Otherwise it doesn't make sense. It's hardcore sci-fi where the advanced aliens barely understood the principles themselves.

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So it stands to reason we can't really see too far into how it works. Because if we could then it'd be real, and not really that advanced

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Living universe and whatnot

west silo Oct 16, 2020, 6:59 PM

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Its also implied halo's ais

humble yacht Oct 16, 2020, 7:00 PM

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?

dusty prawn Oct 16, 2020, 7:00 PM

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thinkingchief

west silo Oct 16, 2020, 7:05 PM

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I think it's in cryptum

humble yacht Oct 16, 2020, 7:05 PM

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bruh

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slow down, watch for typos. lol

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what are you trying to say?

west silo Oct 16, 2020, 7:07 PM

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They state that the halo will destroy everything even the matriarchy which is the capital's ai network

humble yacht Oct 16, 2020, 7:08 PM

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smh