They always make the fun stuff illegal
#lore-and-universe
versed helm
vague scroll
but as I was saying earlier, if my Halo flamethrower can't reach across a large room and burn some aliens, then I still think real life flamethrowers are better
vague scroll
Spartans burn too
cedar surge
vague scroll
they burn a lot
cedar surge
But since most battles aren’t determined by foot soldiers anymore it’s a pretty obsolete weapon
@ocean ibex
ocean ibex
I can just imagine vsauce talking about the constitutional consequences of shooting an alien
cedar surge
That's what I was referring too
Well
When you think about it
Since they genocide and eat humans
It should be ok for humans to roast them right
versed helm
Well it’s not a war crime if there are no witnesses
ocean ibex
@cedar surge I was talking about modern day war
Air superiority means victory no matter the size of the land army
nimble crest
Halo anniversary needs a remaster and it needs to be made now
vague scroll
the US dropped more bombs in vietnam than all the sides combined in WW2, it still lost the conflict by all definitions
nimble crest
With reach mjolnir
ocean ibex
Facts yo
nimble crest
And DMRS AND MONGOOSES
vague scroll
air superiority as a weapon alone is not an effective strategy
versed helm
Tide are you from Spacebattles
ocean ibex
Well it means you’ve boxed in the enemy preventing them from forming counter attacks or regrouping
vague scroll
I briefly appear there because some of my fanfic friends forced me to @versed helm
ocean ibex
There is no air superiority in Space
vague scroll
but I'm not a fan of SB tbh
versed helm
Fair
vague scroll
I see, if I get a very large balloon and put air in it and then let it out into space, can I declare air superiority? @ocean ibex
ocean ibex
That’s not what I meant lol
vague scroll
I'd personally take a DMR though I think the BR probably kills better given the bullet it uses has more stopping power
ocean ibex
Def a dmr
cedar surge
BR is a god of death
vague scroll
@ocean ibex no fun 😦
nimble crest
Does the energy sword carterize wounds
cedar surge
Yes
ocean ibex
Prob
vague scroll
maybe? I think it burns hot enough
cedar surge
All plasma weapons carterize as soon as they do damage
ocean ibex
Your internal organs would liquify
cedar surge
In escalations a man nearly got his arm shot off yet no blood
vague scroll
yeah, that's a mild concern is that to cauterize, doesn't that mean hot enough to seal but not hot enough to dissolve the human body or turn it to ash?
cedar surge
There has been human blood in all the games
In 1 two and 3
I'm not sure about 4 and 5
ocean ibex
My 360 must’ve been degenerate 
vague scroll
all the Halo games, punch a NPC in 4 and 5 they still spill blood as I recall
cedar surge
Man imagine just minding your business and then a Spartan punches you as a test
vague scroll
if not, then I'm remembering wrong and that T-rating exists for a reason
ocean ibex
Even if you somehow survive being stabbed by an energy sword your organs would literally spill out as soon as the sword leaves
vague scroll
or just turn to ash and churn inside you...
cedar surge
Well if the sword burns the hole shut?
ocean ibex
Impossible
terse lava
Pretty sure the sword would just vaporize your organs/cause them to explode from the heat
cedar surge
The organs become soup
versed helm
Under normal circumstances, the heat transfer going from 35 or so degrees to thousands in a matter of milliseconds would excite the energy enough that it would literally burst, yeah
However, with slipspace technology (which we are aware Unggoy use for tubeless methane transfer), you could perhaps expand the time of transfer within a higher dimensional pocket
So more smooth cutting
ocean ibex
Ik this may sound stupid but can you theoretically time travel through Slipspace
versed helm
Yeah, that’s what the slipspace crystal did in First Strike
Since stretching the dimensionality could literally expand the perception of time, since they’re inextricably linked
ocean ibex
So if you get ejected while in a Slipspace stream you’re basically trapped there for eternity right
versed helm
-Opening up to more time “lines”
So if you get ejected while in a Slipspace stream you’re basically trapped there for eternity right
@ocean ibex no, but similar case here
ocean ibex
If there’s no exit point what happens
versed helm
The higher dimensionality would force your physical body to adjust to it in such a quick manner, it couldn’t sustain the energy and you would probably explode
ocean ibex
Interesting thought
versed helm
It’s like how your mind would probably be thrown into psychotic shock from seeing an alien, because you’re wired to not understand them as real
For example
ocean ibex
It’s pretty realistic on how it took centuries just to make first contact
And it was a very hostile one too
cedar surge
I wonder what would happen if high charity or another self sufficient station got trapped in slipspace
ocean ibex
Like he said, explode
versed helm
Which is why I believe if we were to meet aliens, it would be similar. We would need an upheaval to psychologically adapt to the idea
They wouldn’t just come with dandelions
Unless it was slow and progressive steps
versed helm
I think the covies would be more accepting of ETs
Humans would freak out too much irl
ocean ibex
Lol yeah
The first instinct a human would have when seeing anything not human is to shoot lol
ocean ibex
Me waiting for HBO to adopt a halo miniseries
terse lava
I do wonder if the Covenant had trade with any other civilizations
versed helm
Probably
ocean ibex
They don’t need trade when they can just turn their planets to glass 
versed helm
It’d be interesting to have a faction they kept a wide berth to, to avoid being on their food tray
ocean ibex
Plus we only know of 12 species out of the hundreds of species the librarian mentioned
versed helm
Really? 12?
ocean ibex
Can’t remember
versed helm
How boring
Lekgolo, Unggoy, Sangheili, Jiralhanae, Yanme, Shyuum, Yohnet, Kig, uhh
What else is there
ocean ibex
Humans?!?
ocean ibex
Sharquoi
ocean ibex
Huragok
ocean ibex
Still count
Anyways, are there any metals/substances that can stop an infection form
Besides energy shielding
versed helm
Flood super cells are interesting
They seem to be able to synthesise with no physical food source, like transforming into Hulking pure forms in seconds
Or developing that claw of their for combat forms
ocean ibex
Can you throw acid on a combat form to kill it
versed helm
Depends on how strong the acid
cedar surge
Yea there was covenant fringe species
Species too weak for the covenant to integrate but are still technically apart of the covenant
Also yohnet Worst design
stable flower
Halo has a lot of stuff recycled in space.
versed helm
From a universe perspective, I’m fine with the existence of beings like Yohnet
Or even the “Greys” that they had in the Halo MMO
Or even the “Greys” that they had in the Halo MMO
@versed helm the game you shouldn't have never talk about
I was a fan lol
I was a fan lol
@versed helm bruh
I like the idea, Halo should branch out with some goofy stuff sometimes
snow halo
is there anything I need to read or watch before Ghosts of Onyx
versed helm
Uh
Just the fall of reach and first strike, probably
@versed helm anyway, It’s a big galaxy, and you’re ought to see stuff you would think is something out of Futurama
I like the idea, Halo should branch out with some goofy stuff sometimes
@versed helm I mean, I don't think that Halo is the kind of game you want for a MMO game, it just doesn't match from my perspective, besides, the concept they have were very weird for a halo game
That’s the point of doing it, though
You shotgun pellet yourself into ideas you’d never imagine, get surprised with how some stick, and integrate
ocean ibex
Did anyone here know that bungie has a video of Stan lee talking about halo
versed helm
@versed helm anyway, It’s a big galaxy, and you’re ought to see stuff you would think is something out of Futurama
@versed helm I mean, yeah, but then, what's the explanation on the other games gonna be?
Who cares
I and the lore followers care
Well they gotta loosen up
It's 343, they care about the lore, not about the games
ocean ibex
Bro, it’s a game about a green super soldier fighting aliens and rogue ai, it can be as goofy as it wants
versed helm
Lore folks can be way too overscrupulous, to the point they don’t even enjoy the franchise as much as when they knew little
ocean ibex
^
versed helm
I know it from experience lol
Lore folks can be way too overscrupulous, to the point they don’t even enjoy the franchise as much as when they knew little
@versed helm i prefer knowing all I can know
Then what
Bro, it’s a game about a green super soldier fighting aliens and rogue ai, it can be as goofy as it wants
@ocean ibex With a realistic explanation of that on it's universe, based with arguments, facts and other imaginary but explained things
I prefer like, I don't know, not killing reach and all the lore like Bungie did?
The only reason I'm a Halo fan it's most likely because of it's expanded universe, like star wars
I play and enjoy every single halo game
But I prefer the lore
ocean ibex
I’m ok with that, it’s just that I agree that SOME lore guys can get a bit crazy sometimes
versed helm
I’m ok with that, it’s just that I agree that SOME lore guys can get a bit crazy sometimes
@ocean ibex Oh, yeah, they can get really toxics some times
Most people who are savy on the lore don’t like it for the same reason they did when they got into it
Most people who are savy on the lore don’t like it for the same reason they did when they got into it
@versed helm wdym
ocean ibex
This mans jus been speaking facts all day
versed helm
Hahaha
This mans jus been speaking facts all day
@ocean ibex haha true
But I like facts
I need factsss
My mind is a holy wiki of halo
ocean ibex
Halo is a religion, remember that
versed helm
The bot is warning me without a reason
2 times
@versed helm I mean that, they tend to lose the exhilarating feeling of not knowing things. They end out feeling guarded about their product, defensive about old memories being mistreated
ocean ibex
I hate the new, you can’t swear anymore rule
versed helm
Halo is a religion, remember that
@ocean ibex Yes, and 343 is the writer of the holy book and Bungie is god
@versed helm I mean that, they tend to lose the exhilarating feeling of not knowing things. They end out feeling guarded about their product, defensive about old memories being mistreated
@versed helm Bc they expect for new info
It’s not something a good product will fulfil
It’s just people
But, products are run thin as a byproduct
They want the halo lore be real, so when someone change the "reality" they get mad bc you can't change the reality
queen tartan
spartan suits have built in master baiters
versed helm
That’s true
queen tartan
time to make a realistic spartain suit
versed helm
that sounds like a waste of time if you just want to get that from it
We are 500 years away from that reality
or fiction, I mean, you know
queen tartan
Walking around trick or treating while grunting and groaning
ocean ibex
They feel like repeating the same questions in a lore channel is their entire life’s dedication
queen tartan
In the 100% realistic replica Spartan suit
versed helm
They feel like repeating the same questions in a lore channel is their entire life’s dedication
@ocean ibex I do the same on other platforms in the spanish community, I do it for reinforce my knowledge (I'm mexican lol)
ocean ibex
Pass me your taquito recipe brother
ocean ibex
Pog recipe
versed helm
Every taquito recipe
Kind of
We are getting off-topic lol
Does the spartans eat tacos?
ocean ibex
They prob eat recycled MRE’s
versed helm
Did they even eat?
stable flower
Halo fits the Ninja Pirate Zombie Robot trope quite well
inner basin
They do indeed eat. When out of their suits they eat protein bars and some similar foods, but when on mission their waste gets recycled and reused to keep them active for longer. It’s gross, but a fact
Although typically they don’t need to eat as regularly as we need to though
versed helm
Could it be argued that halo COULD of finished at 3? I heard somewhere 3 was a good place to stop but then 4 came?
round comet
no.
humble yacht
halo 3 wrapped up that trilogy nicely but left plenty of room for additional stories to be told
wispy wasp
Money
flat bone
bungie wanted to work on something else
versed helm
Ah ok.
humble yacht
MS bought the rights to Halo back in 2001
in exchange bungie got alot of money to make it bigger than they could have on their own
flat bone
oh ok
versed helm
So the portal on earth at the begging of 3 right? That was built by the forerunners to coincide with the ark, it was built to transport everyone back to earth when the halo array went off right? Sorry if im off.
flat bone
i thought the humans on earth were the librarians collection
brought from zeta
or something
humble yacht
well those humans died alongside her when the halos fired
flat bone
oh
versed helm
Jesus, idk what has more lore halo or star wars lmaooo
flat bone
would you say the flood is the strongest infection
compared to other zombie infections
humble yacht
no
flat bone
what would be stronger
humble yacht
it's hard to say without in depth comparisons
i just think that you can't say the Flood is the most infectious space zombie infection
versed helm
The flood is somewhat powerful. But easily defeated with the knowledge of it
humble yacht
Dead Space necromorphs would probably give the flood a run for its money
flat bone
flood is smart
humble yacht
it can be
flat bone
i dont really know what a necromorph is so i cant say anything
versed helm
Does the shield ability in halo 4 stop healing?
humble yacht
you mean the hardlight shield?
inner basin
I’d assume that’s what he’s referring to as I can’t think of any other shield ability
It’s also a question I don’t have an answer for because I never use it
humble yacht
shields don't recharge while the hardlight shield AA is active
versed helm
Aw that sucks
inner basin
I mean it also makes sense from a lore and gameplay standpoint
inner basin
No
round comet
sad
inner basin
happy
round comet
no
anyways, SoR is an excellent read
so far
i just need to figure out how im getting sacrifice
grim implied that isnt related to blue team or the book
versed helm
Not a gameplay standpoint
round comet
soooo maybe cortana? i hope so?
inner basin
soooo maybe cortana? i hope so?
I hope not. Spartan-IIIs pls?
round comet
🗿
ocean ibex
Ok then s III topic: would noble 6 survive the flood encounter on installation 04
flat bone
hmmmm
i dont think so
cheif had cortana
who helped
noble woudnt have possibly ignited the ring
ocean ibex
No I’m saying chief was on the ring with him
round comet
Ok then s III topic: would noble 6 survive the flood encounter on installation 04
yes.
No I’m saying chief was on the ring with him
also yes.
well, can also depend on the situation.
round comet
if he's put in the same circumstances as chief, he'd survive.
ocean ibex
His energy shields would help a ton for him
round comet
what.
ocean ibex
No, I don’t think 3’s got AI
inner basin
His energy shields would help a ton for him
I mean his energy shields are no different from Chiefs
flat bone
then he wouldve ignited the ring
ocean ibex
I don’t think he would’ve survived the library
inner basin
Why not?
flat bone
i think he coudve
ocean ibex
Why is that
flat bone
cheif made it
ocean ibex
That man finds 4 leaf clovers 24:7, he would def make it
inner basin
It would be a challenge for a Spartan, but not impossible for anyone besides the Chief
ocean ibex
Didn’t a marine almost make it
inner basin
You need to remember that Chief isn’t the best Spartan, he just has plot arm... I mean “luck”
Yeah, a Marine did get pretty far, and even got a complement from the Chief for how far he got
ocean ibex
I’m pretty sure six is better trained in firearms than chief
inner basin
I don’t really know what would suggest that
vivid dust
why would he be?
ocean ibex
I just have a feeling he would be
flat bone
but
inner basin
It just sounded like you were stating it as fact in your first message
I’m pretty sure six is better trained in firearms than chief
flat bone
cortana did entervine when cheif was about to light the ring
she wouldnt be there for 6
ocean ibex
Ofc, six would’ve killed off an arm of the Milky Way
inner basin
We’re talking about the Library, not that cutscene oof
humble yacht
S-IIIs were trained harder than S-IIs
flat bone
Ok then s III topic: would noble 6 survive the flood encounter on installation 04
@ocean ibex
humble yacht
ackerson and Kurt made that a point
inner basin
Oof, that still says “Flood encounter”, not the Battle of Installation-04
S-IIIs were trained harder than S-IIs
That doesn’t mean better training in firearms (specifically)
It could mean things like unit cohesion that the Betas has more of than the Alphas
humble yacht
it's likely that whatever firearms training the IIs got, the IIIs were drilled harder
even if the reasoning behind it was very shallow
inner basin
It is a valid point, but speculative nonetheless
ocean ibex
Yeah I don’t really get what they mean by “trained harder”
round comet
read ghosts of onyx maybe
inner basin
The S-IIIs has a tougher training regimen than the S-IIs as Ackerson wanted to stick it to Halsey
humble yacht
Ackerson had a personal vendetta against halsey
flat bone
Oof, that still says “Flood encounter”, not the Battle of Installation-04
the only reason that cutscene happened was because of that encounter
humble yacht
he wanted to one up her every way he could
humble yacht
and then you had Kurt who experienced the training first hand
and would be well suited for thinking of ways to improve that training
from a perspective that a non-combatant like halsey wouldn't understand
inner basin
Ackerson was just angry because funds that were planned for his projects were redirected to Halsey and the Spartan program, so he proposed a Spartan program of his own, piggybacking off of Halsey’s work
humble yacht
also Mendez was involved in both programs
so the threes got all the training of the IIs plus whatever additional things Kurt could come up with
inner basin
I feel bad for Kurt and Mendez. They watched 598 Spartans they worked so hard to train, wiped out in blood bath missions.
ocean ibex
And only some of them were some what successful
round comet
I feel bad for Kurt and Mendez. They watched 600 Spartans they worked so hard to train, wiped out in blood bath missions.
makes it worse when you realise they knew what will happen to the kids
ocean ibex
All of those 3’s were just orphaned children, holding immeasurable amounts of hate towards the covenant, at least they got some of their revenge
inner basin
It’s kinda grim when their deaths could have been avoided by providing more UNSC troops to support them, but the UNSC was like “Nah lmao”
It surprises me that there are still Alpha and Beta Spartans still kicking, as well as the opportunity for 343 to create new Alpha and Beta Spartans if they want to
ocean ibex
They were mostly black ops missions, a fire team of 5 would be the max, any more would attract too much attention
vague scroll
Ackerson’s whole point was that he wanted to make expendable, cheap supersoldiers. He considered an ODST battalion more valuable than Spartans, there really wasn’t anyway of avoiding this.
Ackerson got what he wanted, only thing he didn’t get was more bang for his buck. The S-III graduating classes were far smaller than he intended.
ocean ibex
I really feel bad for the III’s that signed up but never made it
inner basin
That is true, Distant. I remember a line in a book (can’t remember which) saying something along the lines of Ackerson would sacrifice everyone if he had to. Sounds just like an ONI Officer to me
vague scroll
@ocean ibex S-IIIs were deployed at the company level. There weren’t any small team units unless they fell under special assignment or Headhunters. And those were kids that were quietly removed from the graduating classes before missions began for the most part.
The funny thing is that Ackerson wasn’t even ONI
He was an Army liaison officer
ocean ibex
So he considered them buffed up infantry
inner basin
I really feel bad for the III’s that signed up but never made it
Well some did go on to become Drill Instructors for the next company, treating them very harshly (for their own failures). It was kinda smart to do so
The funny thing is that Ackerson wasn’t even ONI
That is true actually. I keep forgetting about that
wispy wasp
What would being inside the flood infected high charity had sounded like?
carmine sleet
Just listen to what it sounds like on the level Cortana from Halo 3, that'll give you a good idea
ocean ibex
The halo 2 one sounds more eerie
jolly swift
nobody likes Ackerson, he tried to kill my boy John
wispy wasp
So is the flood music mostly accurate to what they sound like?
carmine sleet
You do know that the music that plays during levels is not something heard by the characters, right? Like, there's no orchestra just out of sight playing music
wispy wasp
Yeah i know
terse lava
You hear what the flood sound like in every game. Groans, growls, slippery noises, and tiny chirps
jolly swift
just that, but a lot of it and in the distance. that's High Charity
wispy wasp
Did the covenant try to do anything after the city was lost to the flood? Or was chiefs raid the first?
ocean ibex
You hear doors opening and shutting too, and for some reason chains dragging as well
jolly swift
the Elites had it under quarantine
ocean ibex
When they coulda destroyed it ok
wispy wasp
If you can just slipspace jump a whole ship in, what's to say you can't slipspace jump a bomb inside it?
ocean ibex
Just have the humans nova bomb it
jolly swift
well even if they were planning on destroying it, the Flood escaped before they could do anything
jolly swift
that was the Monitor's call
carmine sleet
If you can just slipspace jump a whole ship in, what's to say you can't slipspace jump a bomb inside it?
There was a Halo next to it that was too valuable to destroy in the time between Halo 2 and Halo 3
wispy wasp
That's fair
jolly swift
and besides, because of how travel times work, that Flood ship that landed on Earth probably left not long after the events of Halo 2
Flood under the control of a Gravemine are smart
carmine sleet
Like, the Halo did get glassed by Elites but the ring itself being destroyed would still be a big loss, both at the time and in post war when we found more rings, given the technology on the Halos
wispy wasp
How long did it take the sentinels to build installations 8 and 9?
carmine sleet
The Forge at the centre of the Ark built those installations, not the Sentinels
wispy wasp
Oh
carmine sleet
And the Ark keeps a partially completed ring prepared in the event one ring is destroyed at all times
wispy wasp
How long does it take the forge then to build a partially complete ring then?
wispy wasp
It would really be that quick?
ocean ibex
Probably
The ark is several times bigger than Jupiter, it can easily build earth sized rings
wispy wasp
That's fair
jolly swift
sometimes I forget how big the rings really are
wispy wasp
They have whole continents on them
carmine sleet
Their radius is around the size of Earth's radius
jolly swift
yeah, they're really something
like you see them in a comparison video and you're like woah
and this is the smaller of the two arrays, made at the smaller of the two arks
ocean ibex
Btw the galactic center is the supermassive black hole in the middle right
jolly swift
should be
terse lava
Of course, Sagittarius A, the Forerunners called it the "Central Eater"
ocean ibex
Nobody has ever seen it tho
terse lava
The Forerunners did, battles between them and the Flood happened in the area
Then again the thing is rather not relevant to halo thus far
inner basin
Of course, Sagittarius A
I thought the region was called "Sagittarius A*", not the black hole itself?
wispy wasp
Do forerunners still exist in other galaxies after they fled the milky way?
terse lava
Eh Sgr A*if you wanna be technical
And yes forerumners likely existed for a time and other galaxys. We know they had descendants
inner basin
Eh Sgr A*if you wanna be technical
That's just a shortened term for what I said
terse lava
Either way not too worried about it
Closest the thing has to the plot is a Forerunner Luminal Beacon being in the center of the galaxy
ocean ibex
Could be, only a small portion of the Milky Way was explored by any modern species
There are hundreds of billions of stars and planets in our galaxy alone, who knows what could be out there
I don’t think even the forerunners had control of 100 billion planets
carmine sleet
Nobody has ever seen it tho
To be fair, you can't really "see" a black hole
ocean ibex
You can see the event horizon
terse lava
Yea, the event horizon would count as the black hole. Just can't see the singularity
cedar surge
Yea the forerunners had 3 million
jolly furnace
Forerunners only held 3 million known worlds in their sphere of influence
So no they didn't control all worlds in MWG
Weren't even aware of all of em
Their influence and reach came from their tech power and slipspace travel mastery
ocean ibex
Ofc, forerunner Slipspace tech is unparalleled
jolly furnace
Only Precursors could beat it
and thats if they even used it normally
They had a superior form of FTL travel
Neural transit
ocean ibex
They literally created Slipspace and existence itself so ofc they would breath them
jolly furnace
Dunno if they created it but they did have vastly greater understanding of it
ocean ibex
I mean, they had billions of years
jolly furnace
Yah
All we know for sure is they predate our Big Bang
by at least 88 billion years
Odds are they came from a previous universe or another alt universe thats older then ours
or a higher plane of reality
ocean ibex
The latter is correct imo
jolly furnace
Probably
ocean ibex
100 billion years of advancement and they still couldn’t alt f4 the forerunners
jolly furnace
Could have. Just decided not to
Which is the only way the latter could possibly have won given what Precursor tech did to the Forerunners in Silentium
wispy wasp
How did so many marines get infected on alpha halo?
Lik i get that the autumn was a huge ship but you encounter so many human combat forms in ce
carmine sleet
I don't think we'll ever know the exact number
terse lava
Think the Autumn carried 1200 marines
1000 naval personal, 800 marines, 400 odsts apparently
ocean ibex
That’s surprisingly small
wispy wasp
At least they had a 3km racetrack
carmine sleet
You know the length of the Warthog Run in CE isn't canon, right?
wispy wasp
Didn't know that
wispy wasp
Yeah
wispy wasp
I know that the legendary ending is also non canon
carmine sleet
Johnson hugging the Elite
flat bone
I thought the said that was sergeant shonson
jolly furnace
Crack theory - Precursors warped reality to make the Autumn's interior bigger than its exterior so MC could an epic Warthog escape
craggy sierra
There’s more ways to build suspense than throwing space zombies at the issue.
flat bone
Idk
They r the only precursor related thing I could think of
That would make the game better
craggy sierra
There’s more ways to build suspense than throwing god at the issue.
cedar surge
If you are able to throw god you already have your solution
versed helm
So whatever happened to those billions of people on Earth during the Battle of Earth?
gilded mason
I guess most of them died.
humble yacht
Doubtful
ocean ibex
Either they’re flood or dead
gilded mason
Flood was very localized, so not the former.
ocean ibex
Africa’s a huge place man
versed helm
I would imagine that the UNSC might've evacuated them or they took shelter in underground bunkers
gilded mason
The Flood was only around Voi
vague scroll
according to the compiled info from Beastrium and Warfleet, and haggling the Halo Twitter page, we know the vast majority escaped through evacuation means
as of 2557, 7.9 billion people are known to live on Earth
gilded mason
Main issue was the reference book (or something) that said Earth only had hundreds of millions of people on it during H3 or so.
vague scroll
this is coming from the 10 billion number we got from the beastrium in 2552
snow halo
I'm listening to the First Strike audiobook right now and should I skip the first section because so far it just sounds like recap
vague scroll
do you normally skip around in a book?
snow halo
not really
vague scroll
then I would suggest not, even if its retreading stuff
different authors and different perspectives can glean new details or interpretations on events
ocean ibex
Wasn’t it 200 million post November 2552
vague scroll
200 million is at time of the Covenant on Earth
that is around the exact same time as the Battle of Earth
you can question the validity of moving over 9 billion people off Earth in some evacuation but that's the numbers we have
gilded mason
I definitely question it, yeah
vague scroll
I do too but I work with it anyway
gilded mason
I don't buy it at all.
ocean ibex
L O R E
vague scroll
until 343i decides to address it again, I just read off what we got
no point in accidently encouraging fan canon
gilded mason
¯_(ツ)_/¯
versed helm
I still wonder how ONI is going to cover up that Portal at Voi if civilians start asking questions
ocean ibex
Doubt they can
It’s literally a big purple portal, with ships going into it, even if people couldn’t see it, they’re electronics would be very unstable
humble yacht
Apparently the portal can be closed/opened from either end
So I imagine they just turn it off on the earth side and cordon off the portal zone
versed helm
I wonder if that whole Project Rebirth is going to go anywhere
ocean ibex
Apparently the portal can be closed/opened from either end
Well yeah, it’s a portal to the ark, ofc the ark has the power to close it anywhere
versed helm
And considering that the Created took over Earth
vague scroll
@versed helm Project Rebirth was already in effect after the War - it managed to repair damages to the Aranuka Space Tether in Legacy of Onyx, we got a golden master chief statue from the New Mombasa rebuilding commission, and while not directly associated, a post-war space tether appearing in Zanzibar that wasn't there before suggests repairs across the planet have been in progress
versed helm
I still want to see a revitalized New Mombasa someday
Although I am curious as to how many former Covenant members fled to Earth after the war?
cedar surge
Some covenant refugees are on earth
ocean ibex
I think only elites
vague scroll
Rio de Janeiro @cedar surge
cedar surge
How humans are ok with their former mass killers living with them
I don't know
Its not like it was a long time either
It was 4 years
vague scroll
when the UNSC has described the alien presence on Earth, they refer to them as "refugees"
information on them being there is vague but it suggests they have no where else to go
ocean ibex
Humanity made the biggest decision in our species history by aligning with the Sangheili, we owe our existence to them
vague scroll
the aliens are stranded on Earth essentially
versed helm
If I recall correctly, one Sangheili tried blowing up Rio de Janeiro with a stolen nuke
cedar surge
That howwever
vague scroll
that is correct @versed helm
cedar surge
Does not wipe away the blood on their hands
ocean ibex
Those weren’t swords of Sanghelios I don’t think
vague scroll
if you don't have the means to ensure that you can completely destroy your enemy, don't even think about trying it
stable flower
Dark Moon Enterprises hires Brutes and Jackals right?
cedar surge
Who will never be seen again
vague scroll
Dark Moon Enterprises is a purely human/Forerunner outfit @stable flower
cedar surge
Human forerunner what
ocean ibex
I see brutes being used for construction purposes
vague scroll
you should read Halo: Last Light lance
ocean ibex
I don’t know about jackals tho
stable flower
Doesn't the SOS have Jackals and Hunters?
gilded mason
It'd be logical
vague scroll
this conversation seems to forget that the situation could be other way around and Jiralhanae and Kig-Yar might hire or use humans
cedar surge
Just with elites in control
Well compared to other species
Humanity is spindly
And weak
versed helm
The SOS does have Grunts within its ranks
cedar surge
Without equipmemt
vague scroll
humans don't need aliens to do their work for them
neither do aliens
but if they can do it for a profit, they will
stable flower
Oh I forgot they have Brutes for slaves or something
cedar surge
Actually the jackals do
vague scroll
Sangheili have Jiralhanae slaves, Kig-Yar have human slaves
cedar surge
The jackals are picking through the outer colonies enslaving what humans is left
vague scroll
welcome to a galaxy of things just being terrible
stable flower
And the Grunts were neutral during the Great Schism with some on Loyalist side and others on Separatists
ocean ibex
Surprising how the Unsc never discovered the jackal homeworld despite being 40 light years away from earth
cedar surge
That was a dumb thing
vague scroll
slipspace and real space travel distances don't line up
cedar surge
And will continue to be
vague scroll
but the proximity of Eayn to Harvest was something born from when human space was considered a lot smaller than what current lore makes it out to be
cedar surge
Hmm yes we are right within smacking distance of the human homeworld and won't take advantage of it. Praise the prophets
vague scroll
you have to give the lore leeway, it's almost 20 years old
cedar surge
Least the "17 human colonies" thing got retconned
stable flower
With the Jackals being mercs in 343 fiction I assume they were neutral during the Great Schism too
ocean ibex
Einstein’s theory of relativity still exists in halo lore right
cedar surge
Well they were mostly on the brutes side
vague scroll
the Kig-Yar have generally never been believers in the Great Journey
vague scroll
they have always been something of neutral, pirates, and vagabonds
@ocean ibex of course, this isn't a space fantasy
versed helm
Mercenaries too
cedar surge
And during the time of the covenant they were kind of autonomous
They signed a treaty with the covenant
So how is Atriox paying his mercs?
Its not like he has a steady supply of income
He is a pirate warlord
versed helm
And iirc, Kig-Yar society has little or no need of religion
jolly swift
protection, food, and money to supplement
it's a dangerous galaxy, and one in shambles, you take what you can get, and most Covenant splinter factions just aren't as stable as the Banished
it's not a great bet, but it's probably the best one
ocean ibex
^
versed helm
If I was the leader of a Covenant splinter faction, I would've joined the SOS
jolly swift
would they let you?
versed helm
Probably reluctant at first
cedar surge
But thos assumes you are also a elite right?
What if your a brute or jackal or even grunt or hunter
versed helm
I would obviously be a Sangheili
gilded mason
Would it matter?
gilded mason
I imagine SoS will strive to be big boys
cedar surge
Not sure about other elites
Not big boys anymore
Cortana hacked off their legs
Medium bois
versed helm
I think half of Sanghelios got EMPed by a Guardian
cedar surge
Yes
gilded mason
If they're already in the SoS, that means none of Thel's other policies are deal-breakers, including dealing with humans, so I imagine they can deal.
cedar surge
we gotta put humanities back against the wall again cause that's the only thing we can do. Ok?
But this isn't just putting humanities back against the wall
They are now a stain against the wall
The unsc is scattered
The banished want end humanity
Cortana massacred some of them and are dictatoring them
Along with the likely tens or hundreds of covemant factions who want to finish what they started
versed helm
They could've used the Ur-Didact as the main villain for H5, not an evil Cortana
cedar surge
If cortana hacked off the SoS legs she made humanity into a stew
Literally the strongest faction right now is the SoS
Everybody else is either ash or about to be ash
Hm
Banished vs SoS
I wonder how that would go
versed helm
I still have the feeling that the reason as to why the writers created the Guardians was because humanity was becoming too powerful too quickly
cedar surge
Yes
Also due to the crowd of people who want humanity to be on the back foot again
But they could have solved that by putting halo ahead by 20 to 40 years
That would make thing much mire sunch
gilded mason
I wonder how that would go```
SoS would wipe the floor with the Banished.And correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the story script for H5 got rewritten like halfway through development?
versed helm
I wouldn't be surprised that was the case
And to be honest with y'all, I don't have that much confidence or faith in Halo Infinite
ocean ibex
@gilded mason arbiter would slap Atriox
cedar surge
But Atriox is a mercenary pirate so he may know where the SoS is weak and strike there
Plus he has a lot of forces
And he actually made new weapons and armor instead of re using old ones
gilded mason
Why would a merc faction be more aware of weaknesses than any other type of faction?
gilded mason
SoS does as well, according to H5 Req card info
Not as far as I'm aware.
Didn't the SoS basically beat off Jul's faction almost completely off the grid except for small holdings like Sunaion?
ocean ibex
Is it true that the 343 elites are a subspecies of the classic ones
cedar surge
So brutes in 2 3 and reach and HW2 are all different phenotypes?
gilded mason
Yeh
ocean ibex
So they’re “different”
gilded mason
Poor humans have much less phenotype differentiation than aliens.
ocean ibex
Why they gotta make my boi arbiter look stupid in halo 5
Man looks more brute than a brute
jolly furnace
Artwork for a mission summary has Halsey as a villain for 5 so
vague scroll
phenotypes are essentially the same thing in humans for different physical features - bigger/smaller nose, eye color, skin tone, ear lobes, etc. The Arbiter's canonically his H2A version but regardless of that H5's design there's really nothing wrong with it. Halo aliens have generally varied wildly from game to game. Consistency really isn't there which is fine if it wasn't there to begin with
jolly furnace
Ya a rewrite seems likely
I dunno why Ur-Didact didn't have his blue fur as mentioned in Cryptum in his pre-4 appearance in terminals
cedar surge
343s elites have rigid mandibles
obsidian python
I have a question for Halo 3
I always thought it took place on the delta halo ring?
humble yacht
Nope
gilded mason
That was Halo 2
obsidian python
I mean the only time we're on earth as chief was in new mombasa
then they went to delta halo
then charity
gilded mason
Yes
humble yacht
Then they come back
obsidian python
and then to a jungle which I just assumed was another ring
humble yacht
No
gilded mason
...That was Earth
humble yacht
That jungle was earth
lament agate
@obsidian python ya might wanna play the games again.....
obsidian python
I've played every game at least 3 times
humble yacht
Remember when Chief was like “sir... finishing this fight”
obsidian python
yes
humble yacht
Who do you think he was talking to?
obsidian python
hood
humble yacht
And where was hood
gilded mason
Were all those playthroughs many, many years ago?
obsidian python
on a ship
humble yacht
Smh
obsidian python
Were all those playthroughs many, many years ago?
@gilded mason no, just recently
humble yacht
You didn’t pay attention
gilded mason
Then I'm not sure how you got confused
lament agate
Chips Dubbo, not hood you less than competents
gilded mason
It was extremely explicit
obsidian python
I did, I guess I'm just dumb or something
excluding Halo CE, I've had to replay every halo game just to understand the plot
I think something funky's going on with my brain
humble yacht
¯_(ツ)_/¯
lament agate
Did you skip all the cutscenes
obsidian python
no
humble yacht
It’s your brain, you’d know best
obsidian python
well whatever
lament agate
Wait a minute who’s chief
obsidian python
so I have morw questions
lament agate
I coulda sworn you played as doom guy the entire time
gilded mason
John Halo
obsidian python
so how much of Halo 3 takes place on earth?
cedar surge
Like 1/3rd
gilded mason
About half
obsidian python
well which is it
lament agate
1/3-1/2
obsidian python
mhm i see
lament agate
Somewhere around there
gilded mason
5 levels on Earth, 4 levels elsewhere
obsidian python
so the ark is obviously not on earth, right?
lament agate
And then the rest is on the dark side of the moon
cedar surge
No
humble yacht
H3 is on earth from Sierra 117 through floodgate
gilded mason
...Yes. It is not on Earth.
cedar surge
The ark portal yes
lament agate
Ye the ark is on mars
obsidian python
okay now one final question
lament agate
Shoot
cedar surge
The Ark the actual structure is outside the galaxy morty
humble yacht
No, you can’t marry cortana
obsidian python
chief refuses to activate the ring on Halo CE cause it'll kill everything, but still does it in Halo 3? I mean, I understand the motive and all, but like...what?
the motive was to kill the flood and the gravemind, obviously
humble yacht
Tactical pulse
cedar surge
The ark is outside the galaxy
humble yacht
Wouldn’t activate the other rings
cedar surge
So no threat
gilded mason
So the Ark would be the only thing affected
lament agate
Because Chief gives up on humanity during 3, there’s a really emotional scene
obsidian python
ah yes of course of course
lament agate
That’s why he’s a bad guy in 5
obsidian python
when a ring is activated it kills everything, right? At least in a certain radius
humble yacht
Guilty Spark even says “a tactical pulse would eradicate the local infestation”
gilded mason
...Chim, what in the world is this filter system. Gosh.
ocean ibex
He couldn’t
humble yacht
A single ring has a radius of 25000 light years
obsidian python
so then why didn't chief die when he activated the ring on Halo 3
gilded mason
He went through the portal...
humble yacht
Because he made it through the portal
cedar surge
Cause he went through slipspace
lament agate
And then he and arby glass reach and arby goes back in time to kill noble 6
obsidian python
there was a PORTAL?!
humble yacht
....
ocean ibex
Bruh
cedar surge
You saod yoh played 3 right
obsidian python
yes
gilded mason
...Did you, like, not pay attention to anything in the game?
humble yacht
Did you miss the part where earth had a portal to the ark?
cedar surge
I'm starting to doubt that
obsidian python
I TRY PAYING ATTENTION
THIS IS THE ONLY VIDEO GAME FRANCHISE THAT HAS OBLIGATED ME TO PLAY EVERY GAME AT LEAST TWICE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING
humble yacht
It’s not that complicated of a series
lament agate
Umm
cedar surge
Yea
ocean ibex
Yet you missed one of the most crucial parts in the entire franchise
humble yacht
In fact Bungie is pretty well known for simple stories
obsidian python
no it isn't but I think something's going on with my attention span or something
humble yacht
Go see a doctor then
obsidian python
anyway can't wait to see noble team come back in halo infinite
ocean ibex
Facts
humble yacht
Now you’re just trolling
Which is against the rules btw
So I recommend knocking it off
cedar surge
In 3 its chief kills covenant on earth,stops the flood infection in voi,chase after the covenant, beat the flood and truth,and then runs out with arby on the FuD through the slipspace portal
That's just 3 in a nutshell
lament agate
Which is against the rules btw
ah whoops I’ll stop
ocean ibex
You forgot the damaging of the ark
gilded mason
boi
cedar surge
Yknow during the ring pulse at the end of three there was probably some covenant left alive
humble yacht
Doubtful
cedar surge
So technically they did finish the great journey
Well they couldn't have tracked down every soldier right
humble yacht
Who’s they?
wispy wasp
And the monitor
cedar surge
Still the ark is a big place
humble yacht
And the covenant didn’t land on much of it
cedar surge
So how does the unsc hide a big portal in the air when transporting stuff through it?
Like some people have to see right
ocean ibex
They didn’t
cedar surge
People just know?
ocean ibex
At this point people will believe anything
Space zombies to portals that lead outside the galaxy
cedar surge
"You see fellow morally upstanding people,this is just a unsc project"
humble yacht
They eventually figured out how to turn it off on the earth end
fair hazel
well according to uh whats the name of the book
melody's book
The one that is set on carrow
Envoy, it features some brutes who were there so... some of the covenant members there did survive
terse lava
Uh..the ones from Envoy left the ark during the beginning of the battle in orbit
Anyone left on the ark when halo fired died
cedar surge
Did the elites take any prisoners?
gilded mason
We know the ones at 04 did, at least.
And surprisingly the Brutes on 05 did as well.
jolly swift
the marines on High Charity coulda been brought there by Elites literally minutes before the Schism, but the Covenant in cages in Uprising shows the Brutes definitely took prisoners
craggy sierra
Either that or the prophets just told them to get extras since they need a human to light the rings.
cedar surge
The prophets could just kidnap for or 5 humans for every colony they burn
Just so they don't have to chase em down why they need humans
jolly swift
they didn't know they'd need humans, Spark told them
cedar surge
The prophets were planning on using the sharqoi to attack earth right
terse lava
They were there yes, but not until the end as the earlier question implied @fair hazel
fair hazel
ah
stable flower
You know how Quinn said "You know I like my aliens to be a little less alien"? I believe that's what people feel about the Yonhet.
ocean ibex
Who’s Quinn
versed helm
Quinnmomma
stable flower
She's part of Sunray 1-1 in HW2 Op Spearbreaker
terse lava
Kinda defeats the purpose of them being...aliens
terse gazelle
!rank
jolly swift
What?
versed helm
Hahaha
fair hazel
Don’t do that...
So I watched a video complaining about the banished being a bad enemy due to, lack of logistics and a bunch of stuff.
That video was soooooooo wrong on so many things. From ideology, state of the galaxy, logistics, power, inner workings politics. Like it just kept getting things wrong over and over and over.
I have advanced knowledge which I am not bringing to this discussion but. With the other knowledge.
Uh hellooooo halo wars 2 is one of the games that kinda deals with logistics of things!!? where the banished originate!
Was it conveniently forgotten too what manufacturing capabilities the unsc, banished, covenant and other groups have?
Meh what a misinformed and erroneous video.
round comet
i watched that video too
this one right?
yeah this guy has no idea what he's talking about
faint stone
was that the templain institution because i saw their thumbnail and already knew it was wrong
it's like they forgot about the part of the banished raiding supplies owned by covies lol
cedar surge
It seems like they read a summary of the banished and didn't do more research
I was agreeing with them before I remembered what actually happened in universe
Oh yea
This is the guy I think who said alien ships should look like other humans built them
cedar surge
But their faction overviews are nice
craggy roost
I have a questions for those who are more understanding.
How old am I?
I was born 110,225 BCE
Current year in halo is like 2560 in infinite apparently
When is the last year of BCE
vernal badger
Ship design is basically one of the things the Covenant got right! Bridge in the dead center instead of in an easily oneshottable location in the outer layer on the front.
craggy roost
Unfortunately even the greatest vessels are weak on the inside.
faint stone
i stg i heard halofollower say that the first mission of infinite is on reach
is that true or is he yet again, speaking out of his reer
@cedar surge i remember an old video of him saying that was because we 'don't know' how aliens would build them
main rivet
If the choice is "Youtuber making stuff up" or being credible, choose the "making stuff up" bet every time.
He's probably just wishcasting based on Shadows of Reach.
jolly swift
BCE/CE is, more or less, another way of saying BC/AD
the Didact would be 112785 years old
faint stone
he was
and he used the xbox promo for it too
'so these mountains look very similar to reachs'
yes everyone point at a mountain we're all on reach maybe noble 6 is the mountain omg guys;
jolly swift
HaloFollower is not credible lmao
faint stone
never will be lol
made a video about all the spartan 2s
and mentioned one of them was hunting chief
round comet
i dont think any halo youtubers are credible
faint stone
yet that one isn't a spartan 2 but instead works for ONI
round comet
except i00, that guy's great
faint stone
he just approved the hunt chief stuff lol
oh yeah he's the best one tbh
er hey guys chris here with another i don't know what i'm talking about lol
jolly swift
I don't think HF reads any of the material he talks about
faint stone
you know that taco bell advert for halo? confirms chief has a grappling hook as well as covenant soldiers making a return
yes halofollower is 100% accurate with it's not speculations
chris here, did you know chief is black now?
jolly swift
I honestly can't tell when you're actually quoting something he said lmao
faint stone
in another timeline
round comet
er hey guys chris here with another i don't know what i'm talking about lol
I don't think HF reads any of the material he talks about
xperia's worse.
err hey guys luc here i read everything and still dont know what im talking about
faint stone
xperia made people believe halo rings don't wipe the flood out
but instead only people
well non-flood
lol
'i don't know why this halo CE terminal shows the flood being wiped out by the ring, when in fact they can't be'
round comet
he also came up with the "logic plague seed" version of the cortana logic plague theory.
jolly swift
"there are Forerunner structures in this game, that confirms the Flood will be in Halo Infinite"
faint stone
PALACE OF PAIN CONFIRMED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
round comet
"err guys you see the grass there? thats a flood reference."
jolly swift
iconic
faint stone
i'm still yet to see him find out how truth was infected by the flood
generalkidd's video just says 'probs a flood spore lol'
round comet
this one btw
its gross
actually hilarious lol
PALACE OF PAIN CONFIRMED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
well id be surprised if we dont enter forerunner research facilities at some point, flood is till unlikely though
wait, actually not that unlikely
343 will go the fan service route
i think so
ok ok slip said be optimistic
yes
no, it's gonna be just fine
the writing's top tier so far
it'll stay that way
yes
faint stone
if it is i'd see it being reasonable for us to burn it
destroy the samples
actually halo wars 2 takes place a year after guardians right? what about infinite do we know when?
round comet
infinite takes place in 2560.
faint stone
wouldn't it be a big surprise to have the spirit of fire make a cameo
round comet
not really, but i dont think its happening.
round comet
SoR has told us A LOT, its in #485883236430512168 if you want to-
round comet
haha
obsidian thistle
but instead only people
@faint stone fun fact without a solvent the bodies of aliens and so on would of littered the galaxy after the Halo array fired. :O
round comet
hey, what if i told you, SoR has master chief in it
obsidian thistle
Also the Flood would of remained. Just none that use sentient beings. So the Flood expansion would of halted heavily as the food vanished, and its forces pushed to a crawl.
cedar surge
I would say halo canon and I00 are pretty good lore YouTubers
There is also covenant canon I think
jolly swift
I might actually try and pick up SoR when it drops
haven't read a Halo book in a long time, but people are talking like this one's important
round comet
well, 20th is the official release date
but some retailers start selling books early, happens a lot
i just happened to be lucky enough
cedar surge
So could the unsc just pay the banished to get off their back?
They are mercs after all
jolly swift
maybe?
faint stone
that honestly makes sense lmao
ONI knew about them
and they could've literally just paid them to go away
or do their dirty work
jolly swift
"go screw with Arbiter"
humble yacht
forerunners used hydrogen chloride
Breaking Bad used hydrofluoric acid
humble yacht
By calling it head canon you acknowledge that it’s not reality
versed helm
ㅤ
ㅤ
cedar surge
Uh
craggy sierra
ONI wouldn’t pay the Banished for something like that. Government agencies try to minimize potential loose ends.
versed helm
nice
vague scroll
so, to bring up a history lesson: the European navigational powers during the Age of Sail paid the Barbary Coast pirate lords of Libya to not attack their merchant vessels passing through the Mediterranean but this was only a holding measure and often the pirates under the local lords only on occasion listened to the free passage payments. When the United States emerged as a new sailing nation after its independence and at the turn of the eighteenth century, they tried to do the same thing as the Europeans regarding trade along North Africa. Eventually they got fed up with paying because it accounted for something like 60% of the US federal budget at the time to pay off the pirate lords.
Finally done with the whole situation, the United States deployed a renewed naval force of six frigates to the Libyan coast and declared several wars against the pirates, known as the Barbary Coast War. This was also the point at which the United States Marine Corps was born as US military forces negotiated with the enemies of Tripoli where the pirate lords operated from and sacked the city.
How does this relate to the Banished?
You don't pay pirates to leave you alone, they'll just keep doing it and asking for higher payments until they bleed you dry. The Banished are a mafia and you do not negotiate with them. You defeat them so they stop bothering you all together. @faint stone @cedar surge
cedar surge
I see
wispy wasp
is there any reason why cortana goes from purple from halo 1 and reach to light blue?
humble yacht
no
wispy wasp
ok
vague scroll
AIs can choose their visual appearance, so Cortana's different depictions don't really have some profound design behind them
a straight forward answer is just that CE had one design and Reach was reusing the Halo 3 Cortana model, there isn't much continuity to expect from it
jolly furnace
I hope to see Abaddon one day. It took the form of modern day interpretation of angel only purple in color
and an androgynous Forerunner face
cedar surge
Abaddon the despoiler?
faint stone
By calling it head canon you acknowledge that it’s not reality
@humble yacht it's like you're getting paid to let things woosh over your head like a plane breaking the sound wave
aka i don't see why you'd not get that joke for free
humble yacht
No I just enjoy crushing dreams
flat bone
Lol
faint stone
by making urself look kinda dumb lol
humble yacht
Dreamcrusher is my most gotten medal
jolly furnace
Abaddon the despoiler?
@cedar surge Precursor AI inside the Domain
versed helm
coom
cedar surge
:/
inner basin
I don’t like how close that is to a racist word
manic sparrow
Just a thought I've been having on my mind, what did the Primordial tell the Ancient Humans that led them to suicide?
humble yacht
huh?
fair hazel
We don't know
cedar surge
And its probably best for that to remain a mystery
manic sparrow
i'd love for them to expand on the precursors
inner basin
They don’t need to. Just use the excuse NeUrAl PhYsIcS
unique rune
nurgle psychics
silent turtle
A thought just came to me. You know how Virtual Youtubers have been taking the Internet by storm? Due to A.I.s being prominent in the Halo universe, I wonder if honest-to-God Vtubers exist in it as well. Either as Dumb A.I. or as Smart A.I. in use by private entities.
stiff creek
Heh, probably do.
obsidian thistle
Well Jaydee... AI of a lotta things in 2552 exist. I'd give ILBs a listen
Deffo gives insight into how Civilians deal with them
But I wouldnt doubt that sorta AI existing in Dumb AI form
silent turtle
I recall Mack from Contact Harvest gave a show to children, but I'd argue he's a Smart A.I. under use by government entities, under a (theoretically) limited lifespan, so his existence is still based on complex works rather than entertaining humans.
Still, yeah. Dumb A.I. would probably be more fit to be Virtual Youtubers.
Sure as heck they'd exist in the Deus Ex: Human Revolution universe, at least.
tough ocean
Hey, does anyone mind explaining to me what Covert Ops is?
inner basin
It basically is a military sanctioned operation which is to conceal the identity of the operator and the faction that backs them. This was very prominent in the Kilo-5 trilogy