#lore-and-universe
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well
the engie basically merged with the superintendent
and vergil was basically the human part of the AI
made to care after sadie after her mothers death so basically sadie and vergil had a strong bond especially after the superintendent was absorbed into the engineer
so basically vergil became the engineer
and the engineer became vergil
and sadie was more of vergils handler, so say if vergil refused to work sadie would just explain why etc
but oni treat vergil humanely like you had to book apointments etc
if you had computer problems lmao
I still can't believe how they saved buck from falling in end
Why did I think Sadie was dead?
@craggy sierra Because she's been restricted to the expanded universe by 343, along with the ODST cast (minus Buck).
Well most things have been restricted to the EU
Is the cop dude ever mentioned again?
Micheal I think
I don't recall any other mentions of Mike
so, why exactly does seemingly everyone hate the Fall of Reach movie? I haven't seen it myself yet, I'm wondering if it's worth watching
Doesn't actually show the fall of Reach™️ and makes some odd story changes
Its doesn't actually show the fall of reach
Like turning John into a psycho and having children die during training with Halsey going "Sounds good to me!"
Yeah
None of the kids died during training
They died during augmentation when they were teens
I mean, I can kinda understand not showing the actual Fall of Reach when we have a game covering that now... but at least rename the movie
And the ship didn't have elites
It was a jackal only ship
A better name could of been Halo: 117 or something like that
I mean, I can kinda understand not showing the actual Fall of Reach when we have a game covering that now... but at least rename the movie
@Overlord_Kualsi#4639
The game was a very poor adaptation
And the book follows chief
it wasn't an adaptation of the book, it's what Bungie thought the Fall of Reach would be like
maybe Origins woulda been a better name for the movie
The game and book take place at different locations on reach
they're definitely not incompatible, despite what some very salty fan websites claim
lmao okay
well for the time being, both are canon, and some very talented people in the community have put together timelines showing how they fit, and explaining away any discrepancies
The game is a month or something
well for the time being, both are canon, and some very talented people in the community have put together timelines showing how they fit, and explaining away any discrepancies
@jolly swift
Halo canon literally had duct tape them together
hey if it works
don't be dissing duct tape
personally I prefer the game's version
a very long, drawn out death with a lot of false hopes
The game story isn't really that good
I'm allowed to like it
Doesn't actually show the fall of Reach™️ and makes some odd story changes
@gilded mason Don't forget the use of post-war equipment (both UNSC and Covenant)
Yep
I'm just not really sure I understand some peoples' position that Bungie should have made the game to follow the story of a book that they, by all accounts, didn't even really want
my position is that, since Bungie created this universe, I defer to them when it comes to inconsistencies
or, when applicable, 343
Bungie didn't even care about the lore apart from the games
ain't nothin' wrong with that
Bungie just wanted to make some games with a really good story steeped in mythology, Microsoft took the universe further than they could have originally hoped, or even wanted
Well kinda yeah you alienate half your audience by pretending they dont exist
And bungie could be jerks sometimes
I'd argue that Halo's main audience is the people playing the games
Well yeah
Its a game franchise
Doesn't mean that a lot of people don't like the franchise for its EU
Without the books even bungie era games have some plot holea
I just don't think Bungie retconning part of the EU is all that bad - especially when it was so small back then compared to now
How is the main backstory for there main character small
How is the book that set off the entire first game small
...it was small in volume
the EU was very small
@jolly swift
The game franchise was really small only like 3 games back then
6 by the time of Reach actually
...it was small in volume
@jolly swift
How is it small in volume
It helps add to the back story
I said it was small compared to what it is today
I'm not saying it wasn't significant, I'm saying there wasn't as much of it
so retconning a piece of it, if they wanted to, didn't' affect as massive of a web as it would today
It affect the brain cells in oni
these days, retconning something in the Halo universe would be next to impossible without a Crisis level event
And made the unsc dumb
these days, retconning something in the Halo universe would be next to impossible without a Crisis level event
@jolly swift
Dude have you seen chiefs armor
It gets retconed all the time
im braindead keep going.
it got retconned once
Bruh every time
and there is a reason for that, even though it's the stupidest thing in this freaking series
Nah theres worse
the one thing everyone can agree on is that the nanobots explanation is stupid
Am not even talking that
the one thing everyone can agree on is that the nanobots explanation is stupid
@jolly swift
Nano machines actually existed back in the bungie days
Just not in chiefs armor
But nobody will argue that ODST isn't absolutely incredible
It did have some small flaws I'd say, not many though
agreed
And made the unsc dumb
@west silo They were already kind of dumb if they had people like Miranda Keyes as high-ranking officers.
Well yeah the captain leading squad battles was dumb
No really though why is a ship captain leading a squad into enemy territory
She wanted to follow in daddy's footsteps, even though her ship wasn't grounded.
Do the captains really not the squad leaders that much
not really. they have a more "imma tell you stuff from a distance" role
She wanted to follow in daddy's footsteps, even though her ship wasn't grounded.
@stable flower
And like her father she followed in his footsteps right to her grave
A captain leading his troops deep into enemy territory means they're that low on people
ROFL she didn't learn from the first time
But then she got the Truth needled into her
A captain leading his troops deep into enemy territory means they're that low on people
@versed helm
But the captain?
Dude alpha base exist
They had people
They did not need keyes
He was just there
A captain leading troops into battle while in enemy territory means they were that desperate to get stuff done. The people at Alpha had their own jobs
Dang it he was the biggest security risk there
You don't send the captain into enemy lines
You do when yer desperate
They might as Well sent silva
You do when yer desperate
@versed helm
The captain has the coordinates to earth what if he gets captured?
BTW Miranda's worst line besides "To War" was "How's it going, you two?"
Being desperate doesn't excuse being stupid
BTW Miranda's worst line besides "To War" was "How's it going, you two?"
@stable flower
We need an actual rally point mam
Silva and the ODSTs had to keep the camp safe. They were getting pincered by the flood and the covies. They had to keep some place of retreat
She says that like she talking to her best friend who's on their honeymoon. A real officer would say "Chief, Cortana. Status Report!"
Dude johnson was in charge of the squad keyes just tagged along
For no reason really other than to pretend to be squad leader
What did keyes add?
What did he being there accomplish?
Look. Him sitting at camp would have achieved nothing. Him on an expedition added another trained gun
At least that
If nothing else
And that's better than getting rekt at camp
Because, you have to ask, could Keyes have made the same decision the ODST did, to blow up the carrier that was taking them home?
To ensure no flood infection?
He could help with making plans for defense or counter attacks
Not get sent out into a field that he was not fit for
And what even was that scene in the flood where he shot a camo elite without even looking
The last time we saw him use a gun he was reloading in the middle of an attack
Maybe he finished reloading
"There's the enemy better reload"
He's like the spastic reloader
Fire bullet? reload
Always stay reloading
See enemy? reload
Done reloading?
Dead as dead
i think he is alive
Dead
Confirmed to be dead on too many occasions for me to question it
cuz he was trained as a lone wolf and he would know how to survive a glassing beam
What're you talking about Dustin Echoes is the MVP
he could have found a oni sword base or a cave to take refuge in
He is ultra dead
he got ambushed by elites
He was stabbed
Yeah he's dead
And killed
The elites killed him
He is confirmed to be dead by Bungie and 343 afaik
Ye
Only his helmet remains
dustin echoes
And its in a museum
So the unknown alien occupation in Shadows of Reach might be the Banished because that's a Seraph on the cover.
Well yeah
Its all but confirmed its the banished
Unless there's gonna be some one off new never before seen aliens
I kinda wish they kept Dare with the helmet the whole game
The helmet looks super cool
It's just a recon helmet. Nothing particularly great
Remember, sending in recon would just slow us down.
The Spartans can do recon far better than most trained troops
Man a Headhunters game would be cool
true
maybe something like Sniper Ghost Warrior Contracts or the newer Hitman games
Heat seeking briefcase when?
Is Lord Hood still beefing with Rtas Vadum?
I hope we hear from rtas again
Though if we do, be prepared possibly hear a different voice
I imagine so
His OG ones dead right
No. He's just insane.
I dont see anything that would prevent him from doing it
As in, 343 wouldn't want to work with somebody as awful as him.
so irrelevant BS, got it
It's irrelevant if 343 doesn't want to work with him?
Who was his OG VA
Robert John Davi
Robert Davi
oh dear I found his Twitter
I don't wanna argue politics here but I understand why 343 wouldn't want to work with him further
Alright uh...yeah, I can see why they'd want a new voice for him.
...get the guy who did the Shadow of Intent audio book
Yeah. He's kind of a bad person.
An entirely resonable responce
he seems to be very much against 343's company values
Honestly I dont think we'll see him in infinite. It would be kind of odd for him to show up THERE of all places, especially since Shadow Of Intent noted he and the ship are off hunting the last remaining San'shyuum.
what would he be doing near Zeta Halo?
Also it might ruin the whole "effective resistance" thing if a fully operational CAS battlecruiser with a competent commander and eager crew rolled up and started slagging Banished vessels from multi-klicks out
especially since Shadow Of Intent noted he and the ship are off hunting the last remaining San'shyuum.
Though that was back in 2553. And by 2558, he and the SoI were back in the Joint-Occupation Zone sporting upgraded weapons/armor and hunting down pirates in the region.
I...completely forgot it was in 2553.
WAIT RIGHT. ONI lost...three prowlers to it right?
Ye
...thats so dumb.
I get that its ONI but like...thats three whole ships and their crews
And apparently they were aware of just how in the wrong they were. Since they swept those losses under the rug
Wait wait wait what?
Yeah, I don't think we'll be seeing Half-Jaw in Infinite
What did I just walk into
Lore discussion.
Seems like his involvement in the main story is pretty much over
Jedi business, go back to your drinks
I WOULD take a sequel to Shadow of intent by the same author tho
Three prowlers were trailing the SoI. Rtas destroyed them and it said ONI didn't report the losses to the rest of the UNSC.
Joe Staten!
No not that
Wait SERIOUSLY?!
Rtas's VA going crazy
...Y'all didn't know?
...this is what I get for not checking authors...
Golly gee I need to read more Halo books
I only know the mainline Halo books authors.
Ah, yeah. He's a frickin' piece of...doodoo.
I've only read the first three and a few graphic novels
Oh man, you got a HOLE to go into XD
Yes
...blood
Alright friends, recommend me some Halo books
I'm already thinking the Forerunner trilogy
Well you beat me to the Forerunner trilogy XD
Smoke and Shadow and Retribution are both fantastic.
The Holy Nylund Quartet
Wait...trilogy, The Flood wasnt him.
What was his third book?
Wait...was that it? Just the Twitter stuff?
It seems his personal values conflict with 343's company values
Anyway, back to books because this could get into politics real easy
Lets not go politics
Yeahhh no
Honestly Kualsi, you have me at an impass;
You ask for good Halo books and...
Well.
I cant really think of any BAD ones.
Theres...less than great ones. But no BAD ones
I can, I can!
I guess where should I start
Id say read in release order. Since most of the books were meant to be read that way as part of a sequence
Agreed, just thought it was something far worse based on how you guys were talking. Anyway, I will day Broken Circle is the best book
At least three bad ones. I say, in a completely biased manner, avoid the Kilo-5 trilogy. :^)
But internet funnyman Brian David Gilbert said they were fun
Yea Kilo is pretty...oof
I'm probably gonna go for the Forerunner trilogy since I like space operas
And its Greg Bear
Just be prepared for things to be kind of...nonsensical in some places.
True that is a good series
Neural Physics
You gotta do it the right way, Neural....
Physics
There we go
;)
I still think it's stupid that the Rookie ||died like a chump||
Yeah, personally I find it kinda sad. Since I would've liked to see his character fleshed out and expanded upon. I miss the lost potential.
My favorite theory I've heard is that he ||got replaced with a flash clone and then was turned into basically a Spartan 4 headhunter||
lol
Maybe we'll see him again if these Blood books become a trilogy
I have to agree honestly.
I dont like the Kilo 5 books but I dont HATE them.
They did give us a lot of good stuff
I was talking to a friend earlier and he mentioned how he kept sleeping.
including Infinity
I will only say this. Barns.
And I was like , he probably slept. Got captured, went back to sleep. Then got killed in his sleep
I could see it
but who would kill him in his sleep?
Unpopular opinion: People who get angry over the fact the halo reach contradicted the fall of reach need to realize halo is first and foremost a game series and the books are there to be cool and give backstory, not to tell the story of a game
i guess what im saying in short is games > books
Thank god that 343 don't have that way of thought
Maybe if it was a obscure lore source or something
wdym
The games greater than books thing bungie had
star trek takes the tv shows and movies over the books and no one is mad about that (and they have made some pretty intense contradictions)
i think a story accurate halo reach would have been boring as hell dude
books are never meant to be games imo
star trek takes the tv shows and movies over the books and no one is mad about that (and they have made some pretty intense contradictions)
@oblique ore
Because the books have been stated to not only be non canon but also very bad
Which in the case of halo is very different
Because halo books are actually good
whaaat
And aren't non canon
vendetta was awesome dude
Yes the star trek books are mostly non canon
Disney buying star wars was a mistake
facts
You should be a shamed comparing the dumbos at disney with halo
if you prefer the fall of reach to halo reach, thats your opinion, but if you prefer halo reachs story to the novel, why be upset
they did it when lucas was in charge!
Especially since they retconed the universe only to make a worse remake of it
Star Trek books are Beta Canon. Which are not Alpha canon last I heard.
they did it when lucas was in charge!
@oblique ore
No during 2013 or 14 when Disney bought lucas arts
ok i guess i was a little misinformed when it comes to the canon of star trek books, but star wars (not disney) does it to
Dang it TROS is just poor mans dark empire
ok i guess i was a little misinformed when it comes to the canon of star trek books, but star wars (not disney) does it to
@oblique ore
And look where that got star wars?
Do you really want halo to be like star wars now?
the new halo games are trash broski, it already is like star wars now
They massacred that golden goose
the new halo games are trash broski, it already is like star wars now
@oblique ore
What ever you say
ok im not one to shame for an opinion, but you actually liked 4 and 5?
i think you are the first person i have talked to who did
do you think they are better than bungies games?
it is kinda just shotgun ar pistol smg
For bungie?
ye
yeah
Except the beam rifle
The focus rifle should be ashamed
What were bungie thinking
And it had such a cool design
The needle rifle was just trying to be a carbine
And it failed
It even reloads the same
oh yeah its famiy friendly oops
arent the games M rated?
i have the cases right next to me lemme check
oh yeah
But we're probably never gonna see naked cortana again
she didnt have like, genitalia
And it has the best cortana
just an hourglass figure
And the teen one has the worse
But yeah I got into halo thanks to 4 and see my surprise when I found reach
I was not prepared for. Armor abilities
omg that word got me a warning?
Its still one of my favorite games though can beat 4 player slayer on sword base
Careful
Too much and you'll get a ban
is 5 the only T rated halo?
The mobile games are too
oh
we need a better rating system in the US
halo reach has the same rating as DOOM Eternal
and mortal kombat
like what
that makes sense
Well maybe not CE
halo reach has the same rating as DOOM Eternal
@oblique ore
Really?
That's surprising
my teenage brain was utterly traumatized at the sight of..... grunt birthday party
Halo reach barely has any blood
oh god i will never sleep again! i saw a grunt explode into confetti
All halos barely have blood
yeah
Well except CE
idk where you are but M is the highest in the USA
i have heard of A, but thats if you make a, umm, how do i say this, adult game?
i have never seen a game rated A
Cyberpunk 2077 got an A rating
Well it did in Brazil
And we know Brazil
But yeah the most gory halo has ever been is in the EU
yeah so apparantly you can only sell games rated A in adult shops
And to be honest if the games were as gory as the EU it would basically be gears
yeah
the eu gets kinda disturbing
yeah so apparantly you can only sell games rated A in adult shops
this is why i have never seen one
I guess it has to have a lot of s*x to get a A rating
yeah
Man what the fastest way to kill a beloved game
There are adult games
And people mostly by games online now so
It mostly a how restricted is your area thing
ah
yeah there is a complete list of A rated games on wikipedia
its very short
basically all for S*x
I knew it
one of them came out in 1993
Because the only thing worse than watching a man get tore in half is s*x
Remember that
Killing is okay
But b**bs are a big no no
the doomslayer would never indulge in such demonic activities
a quick google search can prove that wrong lmao
Reminds me of some one complaining about the se*ually imagines in GTA
Completely forgetting that the game is quite literally murder simiulator
and a dang fun one
Yeah a bouncing car is too far
But murdering people is fine
and a dang fun one
@oblique ore
No argument there
take your five year old to see Halloween, but be careful, theres b**bs make sure to bring your blindfolds! but take them off just in time for michael myers to strangle her with a phonee cord!!!
yeah
i wonder why michael didnt just knock the kid out or smth
he was very careful never to kill kids in the ogs
Remember the original micheals kills were usually clean
So to see him get mess catches some of guard
yeah
so is halloween kills a troll or is that really the title of the movie
@oblique ore
?
As in micheals?
Well he's gonna be back
Where they retconed his death from burned to death to its just a scratch
lol
And then there's resurrection
i only saw 1 2 and 2018
Where they retconed his death to it was someone esle
lmao
One second hes about to kill someone
And the next its a Billie eylish song
yeah
i miss eerie michael
the one that stands at the bottom of stairs and looks up at you
Man Michael is basically city Jason
The detective was my favorite character
He goes completely insane by the beginning of the first movie
Alright its extremely late where am at so laters
😁
Only just realized that part of why Chief's suit was "totally fried" at the start of 2 probably wasn't just the wear from the Battle of Installation 04, it was Cortana using the suit to overload the phase pulse generators
Technically, its only the optics that were "totally fried", but yes.
Also, the various bangs, explosions, unprotected slipspace insertions, and all kinds of "weird stuff" Chief went through in First Strike
Oh and TIME DILATION via forerunner crystal
If I remember right specifically the Mark V had several issues following Chiefs use of it;
Viscosity in the gel layer (most likely the pressurized gel for the lockup, rather than the only other option, the nanoliquid peizeoelectric fluid in the suit itself)
Plating failures (no indication of that but considering it got sliced up real good by an energy sword and then exposed to radiation of all kinds...)
Optics fried of course (Pulse generators as Kualsi mentioned)
And apperently the power supply was funky too (though Gunns dumps what looks like a computer power brick on the armory table rather than the more preusmable MASSIVE FUSION REACTOR)
It still seems REALLY tiny for something powering this entire suit.
I mean it fills that entire backpack on the unit right?
terminator also has tiny reactors
Maybe its only the safe part of it and the reactors elswhere. I dont think throwing around a fusion core is a great idea...
Actually do we even know what happened to his MK V suit?
don't think so
We know the MK IV helmet (or one of them) is presumably on the training station for S-IVs
Cause of the blurb in H5.
Or is that the MK V helmet...I forget.
the Mark V is rugged as all heck, but Chief beat the tar out of it
Mark IV
also side note but I love that ODST is basically half Maltese Falcon and half Die Hard
I didn’t think the little thing he dropped was meant to be the power supply, merely some arbitrary component. But maybe, who knows.
He did say the fuel cells are fried
Did you guys know there's a Ukrainian wrestler named Vladimir Kozlov? Now when I think of the Koslovics, I think of him.
who is koslovics?
A neo-Communist militant group active in the mid-2100s.
Been wondering lately. The infection form that manages to get Mercy. Why waste time attemptingn ton strangle him rather then just infect him
one last regret
wdym
I always find it odd how brute captain and majors are permitted to wield the gravity hammer outside of the covenant because normally chieftains wield the weapon
Like to me that defeat the purpose of having chieftains that only wield the hammer
Well I figure jiralhanae culture isn't as stringent as sangheili culture when it comes to their main ceremonial weapon. Could argue those captains were gifted the hammer, or actually won it from their chieftain
True but it’s weird lol
Could also argue they just prefer their original armor over that of what a chieftain would wear
Fair enough lol
Did the Spartans go trick or treating when they were kids, and did the UNSC create a haunted house for the young recruits on Reach during October?
Almost certainly not
There's no way they'd be that kind to them
To the UNSC, the Spartans were soldiers, not kids
I doubt Halloween would of been a thing around the halo timeline
why are most UNSC vehicles named around animals
and covenant vehicles are based around ghosts or something
Because it's neat
It's their theme
Yeah?
I'm surprised they don't have vehicle named Ghoul.
yeah
Or Apparition.
Spirits
UNSC - Animal names. Covenant - Supernatural entity names. Forerunner - ???? names.
Multi limbed covenant devices seem to share a more animal idea
Scarabs have supernatural connotations thanks to Ancient Egypt
oh
That too, and the Kraken was a mythical creature who sunk ships
In-game, yes.
how is the kraken not supernatural
Forerunner naming were more...military themed. Fortress, harrier, dragoons, etc.
dreadnaught
That is a class of dragoon
ohhh
Mhm, the ones you see in halo wars and halo legends are that
k
Despair class hunter killer weapon ships
war-sphinxes, not sure i'd say they're ships
supernatural as in ghosts
@flat bone Ghosts are paranormal. Super natural implies something that is beyond our understanding and does not belong to our usual (natural world). Supernatural is a phenomenon that is something we will never understand. Paranormal implies quite the opposite. It's something science cannot currently explain, but that might likely be explained somewhere further down the road like spirits, souls, and ghosts for example.
I'm sorry I do suffer from OCD and I can't help but to properly define words, and attempt to be wholly accurate. I mean no harm... but I just wanted to make sure you understood the terminology.
So that's what paranormal means
and broadsword
@flat bone UNSC fighters/bombers are named after swords
And most of there vehicles are naned after animals
so if the covenant has massive fleets, why was truths fleet so small in halo 3
wouldnt he, as leader of the covenant, have access to all of them. Especially since he found humanity's homeworld. and both his rivals were dead. and he was activating the ark
why would he only have so few ships at the end of it all
They were busy fighting the unsc in space I think
And he under estimated the humans most likely
why would he only have so few ships at the end of it all
Most of the fleets that were loyal to Truth were elsewhere, Truth's fleet in Halo 3 was his own personal fleet and given everything that happened in Halo 2, many of the ships from the fleet were likely to have been lost in combat against the Elites around Installation 05
hola
Hey guys,
I hope this is the right Channel for my question. With the xbox series x I'm getting my first xbox. Now my question is in what order should i play Halo? Thank you very much
Hey Duric. Recommend just playing them in order of release. Helps you get the story properly. But if you prefer to just have good gameplay, I'd start with 3 then play the others at your own pace
Release order for the FPS games goes Combat Evolved, 2, 3, ODST, Reach, 4, 5
Also important to note that all of those but Halo 5 are in MCC (Although, Halo 4 is not on PC yet but is coming soon)
Thank you very much @warm bronze @carmine sleet Big help 🙂
No problem
No worries
Thanks ssd conker and vex
is the ringing present in most (if not all) levels with the flood in it, a noise that the flood make or is it just a part of the music?
ringing?
it's like a beeping
but it seems to be present in almost every level with the flood in it
If it is what I think you mean, that's just the soundtrack
Considering the track I think you’re talking about first appears in the second mission of CE where there are no flood, I think that’s just the music.
Only Flood track I like is Devils... Monsters... (which is from CE)
All gravemind tracks are gangsta
if Chief jumped into War Games, how much would he win by?
He'd get dead last.
John isnt the best Spartan.
Just to be clear
Other Spartans are better than him in numerous areas.
He just has the most plot ar- I mean luck
Chief is one letter away from being sucky
what letter?
Other Spartans are better than him in numerous areas.
@obsidian thistle yeah, but they aren’t called Demon
A lot of Spartans have been called "Demons" actually
but they don't get the capital d
chief is best
Yes
achkuallly
cheef is not best bcuz pwot warmor
yessir
chief did not save humanity and the galaxy
nope
Heresy
lemme just pull out my 'ur wrong bcuz books teehee'
Aren't all Spartans known as demons?
Like how would the covenant even know the difference between the Spartans
mainly since they expected humans to be easy to kill etc
well john was The Demon
and they knew very well of him
armour etc
Its not like they were walking around with there names on there armors
it's like how the doom slayer was feared in hell
There weren't multiple Doomslayers
right but he also wore knight sentinel armour
and was still named the slayer when he wore it
A very distinct knight sentinel armor
alongside other sentinels
kinda
he wore the gladiator one
but then he met the fella who sold his sons soul to hell
That's before he was known as Doomslayer
who forged the armour he wears now
once he started fighting with the sentinels against hell, that's when he was named the doomslayer
doomguy to doomslayer
No it was after millennia of tormenting hell
fairs they said at the start of doom 16 they named him the slayer
That's after millennia
no
The codex
when he was fighting alongside the sentinels he was known as the slayer
Straight up said that
yeah
How would the covenant tell the difference between chief and any other Spartan
because the chief is scary
duh
other spartans too but chiefy was The Demon
whilst they would call other spartans demons as well
but chief basically defined it
Dude all Spartans wore the almost the exact same armor
dude ik
They wouldn't be able to tell the difference
lets throw the 'this demon, this master chief'
outta the window
how did they know chief was the one who blew up halo
lol
Almost all the feats chief does other 2 were probably capable of it
Dang it one in out dated armor held off an entire ship
don't see other spartan 2s blowing up a halo ring
Because they weren't there
it's like
weeewwww
so how was chief
boom
mind blown
fair enough they all trained together but chief is basically the best spartan alive lol
not because of the 'hypah wethal' designation
No just lucky
And anti social
He gets it done
like hey you know spartan locke
kills a lotta covies
guess he's as good as chiefy right
Never denyed that
If we're being bluntly honest....more or less.
should also remember when chief got teleported by the gravemind into HC
brutes literally say 'The Demon is here'
They just said demon
nope
that sounds stupid as hell
saying
'demon is here
like fairs they're broots
but they know how to speak basic english lol
Plus you know all the other Spartans were gone
Because bungie were in the whole last Spartan phase
Yes they were on onyx
but they could've changed it for H2A yeah?
just shortened the line
but nope they didnt lol
chief was feared by the covies
Red were in cryo. and there were spartans on earth/sol system
But seriously what were black team doing
Black Team things.
Red were in cryo. and there were spartans on earth/sol system
@versed helm
Redteam were officially MIA
it's not about what's official always, sometimes it's about what you know.
red team were last seen with the spirit of fire before leaving the orbit of arcadia's planet
red team were in indefinite-cryo on the spirit of fire.
and after that spirit of fire and red team were all classed as MIA
Dude they were placed that because the ship they were on was lost with all hands
yes
Yes. But they were still alive.
Sometimes it's about what you, the player/reader knows, more than what's stated in a fictional report.
That's a type of literary irony
and in-universe, they're still in cryo
For 30 years
and chief was missing for 8, but we aren't going to outright classify him as MIA
And most people in universe think they died with the ship
and chief was missing for 8, but we aren't going to outright classify him as MIA
@versed helm
He was classified
Dont you remember halo 3 ending
The memorial for everyone who died
That meant they thought he died
it's just arby ofc told them that chief was on the other side of the portal
His file was labeled MIA. but this discussion doesn't rely entirely on what the people in-universe believes. because by that logic, Grey Team wasn't doing what they were doing and the Spartan 3's never existed
not at the time of onyx
Arbiter just said that to make himself feel better
You guys are sounding like Di*ks right now
He was classified as dead
nope MIA
Remember the halo 4 intro
You as in dead
His file read MIA but people did believe him to be dead
it's just people had common knowledge mia was dead for spartans
Because Spartans never die
hence why someone literally scraped in 117 on the memorial
It the moral thing
Do you really think Spartans are immortal
if it's a moral thing it clearly wasn't working
So, remember. All of this is considered in hindsight as well. It's based on the information we know now, not what they knew then.
Oh it was
Dude your being really childish
Like oh boo hoo
Really
In universe all Spartan deaths are classified as MIA
Calm down please. It's also not really considerate to call someone childish after calling other people insults in a very childish fashion.
lol
Okay lets just stop this since we're not going to agree on anything
Looks like fun things happening in here
You think am upset
Okay
but for some reason i feel like you are
Weird
Its like this is the internet and not everyone will agree with something you
I have no reason to be upset
yet you are
Especially since things like this happen all the time
yet you are
@faint stone
Am I tho?
you told me
You just said you didn't think I was yet your saying I am
Oi.
you told me
@faint stone
No I said do you think I am
Okay since am warning now am a drop this
Because am getting warned about "sensitive topics"
No, you're continuing to argue. as I'd stated, this is not the place for it.
the #471730170768654352 are there for a reason.
lol
epic add chief to smash bros for the books
more books for the lore community to argue about yeh
Steve is already there
Nothing really holding them back
fallout and minecraft atm
Doomslayer for Smash when?
they would suit skins tbh
chief gets a mii gunner skin and slayer a mii fighter with the crucible
but i think it'll be the doomguy since they've acc made a statement that doomguy is a better choice
probs since easier design and not as brootal as slayers look
Nah the Steve animation is pretty faithful to the game
They would probably make chiefs special a Spartan laser
honestly i think the mii skin is better
mainly since chief has guns and stuff and it's not really friendly
since snake doesn't use guns but uses fake stuff lol
which is character friendly bcuz of tranqs etc
so if chief gets a mii gunner skin it'd probably be a plasma rifle or pistol
Never really used snake
More a Kirby guy
worst character
you're a lore and universe channel
So then speculation on the new book coming out
Is it just me, or did anyone else think that Jul 'Mdama would have a bigger role in Guardians?
Everyone kinda did
It kinda upset me when they killed him off
That an understatement
he had so much potential
He's not dead
Didact I think I was more okay with him leaving after 4 and tbh if not for the comic I would’ve just assumed he died in 4.
Just never to be seen again
same
I thought he died too
I think he could've had more of a impact and been a good villain if he had been in more games
Don't worry a coloring book has it all
But I think Didact got put into a similar position as the flood did where it’s just like “what do we do with you now.”
Man but with him it was just one game
The Flood just kinda disappeared and it feels bad
And he's barely in it
Didact was a poorly used villian
Dude set out to try to vaporize all of humanity and nearly succeeded. What’s he gonna do next week? Try to do the same thing again?
The entire story of Halo 4 was a cool idea but it just felt poorly executed
I’d hardly say the flood just disappeared given Halo 3’s ending.
But they’re in the same position of you just can’t do much with them now.
The entire story of Halo 4 was a cool idea but it just felt poorly executed
@rotund echo
The story was actually pretty good the multiplayer killed it
the multiplayer was quite nice imo
5 just was a failure of a game, it seems like while the trailers were coming out, they just scrapped the storyline entirely and reworked it
Its multiplayer is rather well regarded at least
Well that kinda happened
Halo 5 multi is cool
It seemed like 5's first trailers seemed to be centered around Chief's and Locke's conflict way more than it actually did in game
idk
And somehow out lived relatively new successful games
I was expecting a epic conflict and rivalry between the two and it never came
Halo 5 multi is a trooper
it's outlived so many other games multi's
Yah the locke chief thing seemed forced in game
Tbh I don’t know how you could write that “epic rivalry” when Locke’s just doing his day job.
lmao
Well so waa chief
Those locke didn't really come off as the man to take chief
Especially if you watched nightfall
He came off more as a rookie
It was just like:
Locke: Come with me
Chief: Nah
Locke: Fair enough, have a good day
Especially if you expected am oni assassin to have no morals
Well lets be honest, the conflict was never going to be that hostile to begin with.
The trailer straight up had one dying in each and was all which is true
The main conceit of the story was that Locke was probably going to eventually come to an understanding of what chief was doing and accept it.
Or maybe have a metal gear ending
lol
Where he realizes it too late
And Reach’s trailer promised me a part where I was going to be football running with a bomb towards a carrier
And Reach’s trailer promised me a part where I was going to be football running with a bomb towards a carrier
@craggy sierra
You did shot a criuser
Ok bye
Hm? You shoot a cruiser in reach
Well we did support the destruction of a Carrier, and shot down a Cruiser with a Mass Driver
Hm? You shoot a cruiser in reach
@terse lava
Seems like somebody didn't save the autumn
you shoot down the Covenant cruiser thats about to glass the autumn at the end of reach earlier in the mission Exodus you take down a Corvette with the rocket launcher turret
Yea...that's a cruiser
We supported the destruction of two of them.
can someone catch me up on halo lore
have you tried checking Halopedia
didn't know that existed
So is it true that the flood used to be the precoursers (that's not how you spell that)?
yeah