#lore-and-universe
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I left destiny after one entry 
so this is 343's last chance with the community huh
Not the community, no
so this is 343's last chance with the community huh
the community will be h a p p y though?
I count all of D1 as one entry
Yea yea
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cortana gets this little redemption arc which is only a tiny portion of the game
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the flood get revealed halfway through.
halo fans, will be happy.
and people like xperia will call 343 a genius for that
because chief will be all sadchief
She should not be redeemed and she should remain alive
cortana just die
Maybe lock her up somehow
should she get the MB treatment?
No
no
to harvest cortana out of the domain
don't cure her rampancy
She should not be redeemed and she should remain alive
idk, id prefer if she stays the antagonist and her arc ends with her dying.
But she already died
the original cortana is dead
no redemption, not aliveness.
That would be old hat
gonzo
and came back...
If she stuck around it would be a different result and could open potential new avenues in the future
so why keep her alive?
the original cortana is dead
and came back from the dead.
and lock her up
just freaking kill her lmfao
what??
'er no that's not her'
'but don't kill her lol ahaha'
it is her,
What if she was imprisoned but her immortality made her unkillable, so sheās just locked up with nowhere to go but the UNSC wants to probe her for info about the domain
caboose rampant fragment
we're hitting smooth brain levels never before hit
And then thereās this dynamic of whether sheāll give answers or plot her escape
caboose rampant fragment
no?
there's literally a short comic of her encountering the warden when she found her way into the domain
What if she was imprisoned but her immortality made her unkillable, so sheās just locked up with nowhere to go but the UNSC wants to probe her for info about the domain
i guess i forgot about the immortality part.
and her fragments reformed into a whole although thats not confirmed as in outright said, it was implied and makes the most sense.
so no, it is the same cortana however different she may feel.
What if they moved her matrix to the Eye of Odin
So she canāt send or receive any signals
whats the eye of odin again?
The most secure room in the galaxy
A faraday cage built into the UNSC Point of No Return
wait, i should check this out.
Any faraday cage would do to prevent her from getting signals out really, it just happens the Eye of Odin is the most secure
Serina died
Thatās not happening
If you want Serena back, play HW2 mp
i have
okay, i read the halopedia page for Odin's eye and yeahhhh i guess thats one way to keep her contained.
I kind of want to see a future where the created are defeated but cortana survives and is contained
And then Chief has to visit her in containment because a new threat showed up and sheās the only one with potential answers
But sheās still antagonistic and canāt be trusted
that sounds, interesting.
Like Batman visiting the joker in Arkham or something
AI Hannibal Lecter
yeah i gotcha.
it fits almost perfectly.
āI ate his matrix with some fava beans and a nice Chiantiā
i guess but would Odin's eye lock out the domain as well?
whats odins eye
apparently a faraday cage with the utmost security.
i love halo halo 3 is the best
uh, okay.
i guess but would Odin's eye lock out the domain as well?
You could compose the beans, store them on a physical forerunner device, and then bring that device into the cage
And then plug it into Cortanaās terminal
The boom! Sheās in bean city
Storing her on the point of no return would have added benefit of keeping her prison constantly moving and cloaked
Which would be appropriate given how dangerous she could be if released
makes sense, i guess thats the only way it can be done.
unless they introduce something else in infinite of course.
where would they keep her
other side of the galaxy?
has anyone actually got that far?
so the galaxy was about to cool down before the created showed up right?
actually
it lookslike it was about to blow up in everybodies faces
for the unsc and SoS the banished was getting big and the innies were geeting to be a massive problem for the unsc
and civil war wasprobably going to start if not for the created
would have the unsc lost this civil war?
idk
im not to smart at all the halo stuff but i think they prolly wouldve lost right?
i think the unsc would have won
would have the unsc lost this civil war?
would they have lost the war with the innies back in the early 26th century
they have hundreds to maybe a thousand spartan IVs
and new weapons and technology
while the innies are still using outdated tech
yeah, spartans will play a big role, new tech etc etc i can see them winning
but then idk if there would be a civil war in the first place
well the innies were getting bold
and the outer colonies (what was left) was getting real fed up with the UEG
Imagine if Isla Zane came back with MJOLNIR armor
So... since a lot of corporations stationed in Outer Colonies have some sort of military/paramilitary forces... does that mean that Halo's aquivilent of Bethesda/EA/Activision/Tencent/ect. has it too?
I don't think publishers for games are going about with private militaries within the Halo universe
The real military was the gamers they made along the way
I feel like that could have dark connotations
if you don't pay for the new dlc in under 24 hours they will swat you with their private sector spartans
Nah more like
Their m games are actually secret training programs to turn their customers into their private army
he disney revolution is all but a matter of time
you think disney survied 500 years?
Iām sure his head is in a jar somewhere
yeah no idk if any of these mega corpos would survive
Disney is evil
Walmart.
the covenant secretly was destroying humanity because they hated disney so much
@cedar surge facts bruh
and they showed the sanghelli shan shyum war being stopped by a elite princess who susupiciously kinda looks like a human
Hehe
man imagine the profit disney could make off of that
"I really hope it ends up being the logic plague that made Cortana rampant. I always thought it was a huge missed opportunity by saying Cortana was rampant solely due to aging and not because she was corrupted by the Gravemind."
found this on reddit AND LMAO.
ah yes
because we can't have a single good story without the flood
nope
gotta be them
not like they havn't been relevant for years
Ok, so about the origin of flood, when and where exactly was flood FIRST mentioned or appeared in the lore?
I know they were in CE, but were they mentioned anywhere before the events of CE?
Okay
Technically the events of the forerunner trilogy take place way before CE
But those novels were published way after CE released
I see
the first humans after the halo rings were fired to encounter the flood were the spirit of fire crew
the covenant had knowledge of the flood prior to that iirc
so maybe they found out about the flood from 2nd hand knowledge ie forerunner terminals or encountered them on a shield world similar to the one in halo wars which was overrun with the flood
humanity encountered the flood technically during halo wars but the unsc as a whole found out about the flood during CE
the SoF disappeared so it couldn't share the info
yeh
SoF are the most experienced to deal with them
since they're also dealing with the high charity flood on the ark
who've mutated because why not
we don't know if SoF contributed at all to beating back the 2nd outbreak on the ark
didn't the only unsc frigate the FuD come to the ark during the battle?
yeh
only 1 unsc frigate went to the ark
whilst the other navel ships belonged to the elites
the rest of UNSC's ships stayed behind on earth
also couldn't have those been brought to the ark by the science team?
Hood wanted to be prepared to defend against the impending flood invasion
they'd know if the ark has a flood outbreak
'what's this ruckus that's going on with the banished
'send some scouts'
also couldn't have those been brought to the ark by the science team?
No because that section of the ark was already behind the sentinel wall by the time the science team arrived
knowing about it and participating in it are two different things
the science team wouldn't have had a large army with them
iirc was the portal they used on mars or earth
the science team had security forces that included some mantises
there's only one portal to the ark
connecting earth and the ark
for some reason someone said there was a portal on mars...
there's not
is it cause HC sllipspaced to the ark from there?
but those few mantises aren't really gonna do much against the banished carrier and their numbers lol
they probably got that confused with the Gravemind creating its own slipspace route from Mars to the Ark
and that's only a few
yes
i think that's where i got it from
i can paraphrase it slightly but it went like this
'the gravemind was in a rush to get to the ark so found a slipspace portal from mars'
well it was clear it wasn't a portal but instead it created one over mars
it didn't make a permanent portal like the one at voi
yeh
just a temp one
probably had the same effect as the slipspace portal regret used on new mombasa
but we know that the portal turned off randomly and comms with earth were cut off
it's not like high charity was in Mar's atmosphere
so it's likely they had a safety protocol to shut the portal to the ark off in any case of an attack
but also the guardians emp probably did it as well
the portal was shut down the first time because the ark was damaged
yes
eventually the ark repaired itself and the portal reopened but it got shut down again later when the Guardian attacked earth
but isabelle says herself that the portal randomly shut off
yep
and comms disabled
Well not totally
The unsc is hiding on secret planets the created don't know about
Like rottasm
The unsc is hiding on secret planets the created don't know about
yet
And the one in the step inside trailer
And at this point the unsc is exactly what some people wanted it to be
The rebel alliance
dont need no unsc, master chef pwns banish by himself
Just waiting for master chief to save them
Oh yes he does
How many times would he have been dead or without support not being able to do anything without the unsc? They gave him tanks,warthogs,broadsword,marine and odst allies,saved him
Chief did not solo the original trilogy
if it wasn't for the unsc the ring in 2 would have fired
well master chef AND one pilot will rekt the banish
Yea I'm sure one pelican pilot sure could 1v1 a brute
Well actually Palmer did with a chieftain but that was as a odst
The pilot guy is gonna pull a carter and ram into a Scarab
I doubt it tbh
The inv is out of date
don't worry about it
So did Regret stumble upon Delta Halo or did he jump to it specifically?
that's a good question
He used a Luminary IIRC
Then why not just jump straight to the halo then instead of getting his fleet smacked at earth
Because he went to earth to try and get personal glory
He didnāt know humans were there
Would go with that. Not only would he find the locations of all the halos thanks to the luminary, but the home of the forerunners too
if 2 spartans frick have babies will their child be born with augmentations
No.
That literally doesnāt make sense Valk. Likely the only thing to pass would be the genetics if itās Spartan-IIs/IIIs we are talking about
Yea some Spartan kids had some semblance of the augmentations
only S-Is, technically not Spartans for that matter
Some were even cocky enough to try to take the fight to the covenant using a glorified space yacht
And that was apparently because they got injected with something a little bit after they were born.
I still feel sad the only Spartan 2.1 died and got barely any development
Well she had a family at least
I am not aware of any
Man there actually some neat story potential in it
Spartan 2.1?
Children of Spartan 2
Oh
Mhm
Hmmm?
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I should really go through the copy of Mythos I picked up from the library a couple weeks ago.
No point in letting it just... sit there...
Mythos is a pretty good book
I still cant believe grunts are considered as arachnids..
they got sacks?
I still cant believe grunts are considered as arachnids
That is news to me
Where was that stated?
I like that most halo lore guilds actually have someone in universe talking about it
the halo lore encyclopaedia
I still cant believe grunts are considered as arachnids..
they got sacks?
@midnight olive
I thought they were considered crabs
i mean some crabs are related to arachnids
still tho thats what bungie wrote in the encyclopaedia
Theyāre written as āxeno-arthropodalā... not arachnids.
hol up lemme get my book
Ehhhh. Sorta?
Some in-game dialogue they taste similar to crustaceans, but arthropods are an incredibly diverse group.
Wait someone ate a grunt
We were ONI the entire time
@dense pulsar
Well we are halos past so maybe
" although grunts have physical traits of both reptiles and mammals, they are arthropods" @unique rune u right
Listen, one of the main goals should be to make a ODST sequel
Wait someone ate a grunt
I donāt think thereās any solid evidence that anyoneās actually eaten one for sure, but sometimes you can hear Marines or Soldiers say something along the lines of āI hear those grunt things taste like lobsterā.
" although grunts have physical traits of both reptiles and mammals, they are arthropods" @unique rune u right
@midnight olive
So do grunts have b**bs?
No we absolutely need a mass effect style halo game
I... I donāt think Iām gonna ask for elaboration on that comparison.
Not an accurate comparison
Yeah let's not start that
hisjspdpi
i cant confirm that female grunts have b**bs
like bro I dont think anyone has seen a female grunt before
They're in Legacy of Onyx. They look like the males.
yet female elites do exist
Well yeah that's obvious
also bro halo legends, a prophet gets sniped and dies instantly yet master chief in halo 2 decided to punch the mf
That one guy in the UNSC who went to the elite homeworld once and has a thing for dinosaur women now
Well, the one in legends didn't have his shields up
ah right
Didn't expect to get shot or attacked at all
Where can I find a list of all halo books in which order they should be read?
Thanks
Are hunters considered a hive mind since theyre just a massive colony of worms?
technically yes
disg o s t a n g
Theyre like a ratking but with alien worms
Technically theyāre eels, not worms
shut up they're worms
Yea theyre eels tho
worms
worm eels
Eel worms
big worms
Thats what she said
Why did the hunters in nightfall not react when locke killed one
idk but i really didnt like nightfall
yeah u right
Its the first thing that got me when I first watched it
Imagine if grunts sided with the unsc š we'd have cute grunt buddies
There are grunts allied with the UNSC.
I'm stupid
was that shown in any of the games?
I havent read any of the books or comics bc I'm lazy as hell
Shown in books and Halo 5.
What the heck is going on here?
So are ever told who the ai in mythos was talking to?
The Curator was simply making a record for any humans who found it
Human
Wow so how did he get all that information about the forerunners
Through the records stored in the ark itself
Wait was he on the Rubicon
Think either that or he was part of the later teams
Because wasn't the ship fully taken over in space
Yep
And what other teams
The scientists the banished encountered on the ark
Yea
Hmm so was there another in universe narrator in warfleet
Halo does have a thing with in universe narrators
Yep
Who
Actually no I take that back, I don't belive there is one for warfleet
Ok?
Not that I think about it what happened to the robot in silentium
Robot?
The one that oni got the entire story from
It was the remains of a monitor and the fossilized remnants of a forerunner juridical
Yep
So wait
ODST shows the Brutes killing the Elites right after Regret's fleet left
But the Great Schism didn't happen for about two weeks
Yes, they had orders from Truth to do that
Truth began the genocide before Regret even left Earth.
Yep
(Probably one reason why he "bugged out")
That's my theory too
He wasnt afraid of chief, he was afraid of the jiralhanae
Also notice, no jiralhanae in his forces at delta
Also I just noticed that Chief seems to show proper stance for fighting with an Energy Sword
Wonder if it's something he picked up from fighting Elites for 25 odd years
Perhaps
Yep
I wonder though was the elite that chief fought more skilled than a silent shadow
That was Thel 'Lodamee
The anime duel one?
He was a major
Yes?
Possibly could have killed him
Well he was about too before the warning sirens caught him off guard
Does the events of the package take place before silent storm
No
No. The Package is around 2544 or so
Soo chief in teens beat an entire team of silent shadows but nearly lost to a major in his 30s?
That wasn't thel
...That was Thel.
It was?
Yes
That was Thel 'Lodamee
Ohhhhhh
Thel 'Lodamee was originally supposed to be Thel 'Vadamee
But as Vadamee was already a zealot they had to
Change it
We had no intention of trickery
Sure
We were upfront that it was Thel 'Lodamee to begin with
I believe u guys
We were upfront that it was Thel 'Lodamee to begin with
@gilded mason
I just thought u guys meant the arbiter
Sorry if I seemed mean
People tended to get them mixed up sometimes
Yeah
Well blame the guys who made the story
Ye
They were not aware of the Cole Protocol book
Got that right
So it is arbiter?
Hm?
Here this will clear it up
Lodamee's very existence is a matter of retroactive continuity. The Major in "The Package" was originally intended to beĀ Thel 'Vadamee, the future Arbiter, as foreshadowed by 'Taralumee's final line. However,Ā Halo: The Cole ProtocolĀ (released a year beforeĀ Halo Legends) had previously established that 'Vadamee's first encounter with a Spartan was inĀ 2535, at which time he was already aĀ Zealot. To add to this, the manner in which 'Lodamee is foreshadowed to become the Arbiter is inconsistent with the manner in which 'Vadamee was anointed into the role. Th
Welp imma go bye
Bye
Bye
Bye
So does anyone mind explaining whos smart idea was it during tip of the Spear to just send the UNSC army on ground with giant warthog rush across a plateau into covenant staging ground? Like did they have no plan to attack besides all rush in
They got clapped as soon as the Banshee rush came in
Still find it hard believe Covenant lost a super carrier to such a stupid plan the UNSC had, like the corvette was attacked and boarded and coms jammed and they allowed it land on there ship it makes no sense
It was extremely suspicious too
And it not like the covenant is that dumb
Well aside from traviss covenant that is
the super carrier didnt even help at all they didnt even send ships go help it out they just let them have a 1v1 with the savannah
Also that attack group was a distraction for the real battlegroup you see fighting the covenant in the background
Also it didn't get clapped
Its just some warthog got destroyed
It was a fun thing to watch, though. Like, that one warthog charging into the fray
Weren't a bunch of warthogs air dropped in
I think so but not sure
Because the others were destroyed
i think they had hogs ready go help fire teams but most hogs we see came from nearby base i think
Dang wasn't the bridge in the beginning gone
So how did the others make it
Except the falcons
They jumped the gap, I assume
the group we were part with was going into the big basin where we alot of fighting going on when we destory first AA gun its just we split off to go deal with AA for the frigate provide us with air support
And how did no one notice a 27km ship in atmosphere
It must of messed with the weather somehow
i think it was cloaked
Clouds just not forming there
or they pulled the adama maneuver and the ship just dropped from the sky and started hovering
I don't know,reach had a massive sensor grid and somehow nobody noticed qierd weather patterns,no meteors,or how whenever something flies in that area it disappears
it glassed the graftan
Well it actually destroyed all the ships in system
ONI still doesnt know how the covenant even snuck onto reach
What are you talking about?
Just don't look at the other side of the planet
The unsc had a sensor grid all around the planet?
How would the unsc not notice this behemoth sneaking above reach
Sure covenant stealth is good
Because the UNSC are incompetent
Why are they incompitant?
What are you talking about?
@cedar surge
The cutscene where they come up with the plan to destroy the ship they state that all the nukes have bewn destroyed with the ships in system
They seem pretty smart to me
i believe that there were humans who helped the covenant sneak onto reach
Oh so that must have been where the space battle for reach took place
No wait
The space battle happened after
They didn't even bother evacuating the civilians until the Fleet of Particular Justice showed up
reach doesnt make sense
So what is novel even talking about?
Why are they incompitant?
@cedar surge
For the plot
Most of the time they seem pretty smart
the Novel and Game take place at two different areas and you have do math figure out the time differences
Like shooting nukes through openings in the shields
I still don't understand why they needed to sneak a slipspace bomb onto the Ardent Prayer to destroy the LNOS.
Don't they have SMACs?
Its a CSO
That wouldn't help
be alot of mac rounds take that big boi down you saw in HW2 how many sentinels were needed bring that thing down
Not to mention the amount of weapons it has
Imagine shooting a city with covenant shields
Flood juggernaut?
And the bigger the ship the more powerful the shields
So CSOs are basically space supremacy ships?
They could have even just used the uneven elephant design
Unyielding hierophant
No its uneven elephant casual
Even elephant is easier to say
Just sounds dumb to me
How about two squids kissing
Although, that station had shield strong enough to repel a small moon
How big was it again?
Large
The station? 30km in length
Just 1km longer than the CSO
A few actually, the LNOS was 27km
Would say so on High Charity seeing as it was far more massive then the death star
So does that mean it could possibly repel a high charity size object heading towards it
No, high charity is far, far larger then the Unyielding hierophant
High Charity is practically a planet
Planetoid yea
Coming here even though I've only ever played the third game since I was like... six.
Honestly Chief dying kinda hit me hard. Always has.
Yes, John dying was a shot through the heart, truly.
so is it possible for spartans to augment the jackal shields or hardlights shields into there armor to act similar how Mandalorians have there little wrist shields and have still able move there body fully unlike how hardlight shield you had be in stance to use it
I guess. I imagine the stance was a gameplay thing.
Jackals suck tbh, they are just as annoying as(if not more than) grunts.
there just angry space chickens
they hit uneccessarily hard for no reason
And why do they, of all species, have the magic arm shields?
i think its because they are used as a heavy infantry cannon fodder
they can be used as expandable muscle
They look pretty flimsy, though
yes but they have uncanny agility
That they do.
Dunno why they're called Jackals if they're more like birds than dogs
maybe there legs?
@astral pivot I dont see why not. its been awhile since I read the books but i believe in ghosts of onyx elites wore them to attack a spartan held position. and I vaguely remember blue team capturing covenant tech including jackal shields in fall of reach. however I dont know if they used the shields or not
S-IIIs were known to use Jackal shields if I recall, mainly stolen from corpses
they're jackals cause they're mainly scavengers
Were forerunner space battles so advanced that they were throwing planets at each other?
Guessing I don't remember much of the Halo 3 terminals but sounds like Mendicant Bias and Offensive Bias fight was real epic.
oh hell yeah
mendicant was using friggin star roads
aka precursor trans dimensional technology
it was the entire remainder of the forerunners fleet vs a majority of flood captured ships and precursor weapons
I mean if you look closely at the jackals you can see muscle
And why do they, of all species, have the magic arm shields?
When Bungie was naming their species, they went with Jackals as a name because of how they like to gain an advantage in battle by having the shield gauntlets, meaning you have to fight smart in able to take them down (for example shooting their arm to make them vulnerable to a headshot)
Or introducing them to kfc
In Halo 4 we see a jackal body a guy in CQC in not even a second.
Dem bois are s p e e d y.
I'm super late but finished Fall of Reach. Was a great read. Entertaining through and through. Next up is First Strike and then Ghosts of Onyx.
How is First Strike compared to Fall of Reach
Awesome. Looking forward to reading it.
GoO is one of my favourites. Packed with juicy S-III lore
yeah. GoO is lit
So how did the Gravemind physically get from deep underground on Delta Halo to High Charity to the control room on the Ark?
Decomstructing himself and reconstructing himself I think
Does anyone know if Lord Hood is still alive?
Yes he is
he almost died
WOW
Yeah Hood is still alive. Unfortunately, he's been restricted to the expanded universe.
"relegated"
Tbh I find it kind of annoying when people say "WHEN the Flood return" like it's guaranteed
I think we've pretty much moved on from them aside from small things like Awakening the Nightmare
even Awakening the Nightmare was just self contained fan service and doesnt really matter that much
I mean if you activated the Halo array and then didn't keep any of the enemy you were trying to eradicate around afterward you'd be fine
What about when the flood come back ?
do you mean what were we talking about with that, or what would happen if they do?
Probably not much.
The only place I can think of them coming back around from is 07.
The only relevant place anyway.
I don't think the Banished would mind damaging the ring to kill them.
Well they could survive on shield worlds like they did in HW
Outiside the galaxy..
I'd honestly be surprised to see them in Infinite
If they were still alive outside the galaxy, why would the Gravemind be whining like he was by the end of 3?
Do spartans wear deodorant?
their suits probably manage the odors, since smell has the potential to give them away if they're hiding
The suits are airtight though.
ok, I'm LARPing next weekend so I need to know so I can be as realistic as possible
and need to start the transition today to become the best spartan I can be
so will stop wearing deodorant now
Gonna be like that one Marine in Halo 4.
"If I do enough push-ups, could I be a Spartan?"
@half marsh quit trying to spam please
@half marsh what is going on with your typing
ok
ahh
interesting
Do fast food franchises exist in the Halo Universe, or has humanity evolved past that?
Looking at john-117 and how tall he is, yeh humanity is beyond that now
In the glasslands book they mention some bars in Sydney, but nothing fastfood related from what i recall
society has progressed past the need for fast food by the 26th century
We see fast food in Reach.
That little kiosk lookin thing with the Moa nuggets, and the sushi, and the hot dog, burgers, etc.
but is it a franchise like tacobell or mcdonalds?
do ODST eat tendies on the weekend
I need to know
odsts have strict diets lol
considering they're going up against big old aliens
so they'll be bulking and doing more
but at the same time, training would be different in the future
So elites have there own battlenet right?
one would assume so
I think its mentioned during 1 2 3 and reach
Battle net is mentioned multiple times in the games
I believe they're asking whether the Elites have a separate Battlenet from the Covenant that they could have used during the Great Schism.
It'd make sense.
Yeah prob
So why didnt 000 Tragic Solitude help during first Ark Conflict when Covenant were attempting use it? I know after the war he began a massive campaign repair the ark and also built the shiled dome and contain the flood but why didnt he work with UNSC before he got rampancy
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@astral pivot think it was addressed in the hw2 terminals that stuff happened too fast for him to really help.
But given that he was a forerunner AI, he should've been able to act a bit faster
Maybe his personality aspect was procrastination?
Unlike Penitent Tangent he'll get it done, just not right away
He likely had multiple alerts and other problems happening all over the ark. Various covenant groups trying to get into facilities, one group making camp in the control room, a space battle overhead, another forerunner construct accessing data
Not at all, Tragic didnt have a problem like Tangent did
All my homies hate 2401 Penitent Tangent, the Monitor of Installation 05
Ok?
I'm memeing
What if you were a monitor and there was a flood outbreak on your ring but you just didn't care enough to do anything about it
Just sitting back and thinking "ehhh, the sentinels will handle it"
Because he wasn't happy either way..?
I still like Penitent Tangent more than Guilty Spark
Why though?
We only see him for like 20seconds
And what we know of his character is that he is really lazy
Exuberant is the best monitor
honestly even the Forge Monitor is above Spark in my book
Gives you a free tank only 1 minute after meeting you what's not to love
Enduring Bias would be mine. Friendly, was willing to share what knowledge he knew, and wasnt crazy/insane. Just talkative
He's a good boy
Indeed, Tragic would 2nd to him. He sisnt deserve the ending he got
Wasn't he the last of the forerunner government
||he was the last First Councilor of the Ecumene Council. Splendid Dust of Ancient Suns. He felt regret for the actions of Forerunners and saw becoming a monitor as a way to atone. He would teach humans when they arrived.||
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQ9P4Wjabnw&ab_channel=HaloFollower Why is 343 DE-EVOLVING Halo Infinite's weapons? - [RANT WARNING]
Exuberant Waifu
You know halo follower is the most clickbaity halo youtuber?
He keeps posting videos from him whenever he talks
So what's halo follower argument?
That they don't look halo?
Cause that's the only way they would DE-evolve across games
Pls rich
if I wanted to watch HaloFollowerās videos Iād go look for them myself
and
I gotta say
I really donāt want to watch them
I don't see why he airdropping them here
I stopped watching them years ago
And what "devolving weopeans" ?
Most of the weapons we've seen so far looks pretty good
And the were probably getting a lightning gun of sorts
Its a 10 minute video about how 343 infinite weapons look dull and generic
ācourse it is
Of course
Earlier he also made infinite red flags video
Its always dull and generic
Also did you guys see that jega is going to get a energy shield?
Pretty neat
I wonder what that disruptor weapon is
Is that the weapon the sniper jackal is using?
Also I got used to the new brute armor
But I really wish they gave it more than one color
The jackal one is called the stalker rifle
The brute armor needs more colors
Is it me or does the carbine actually look bigger than the AR
The brute armor need a little more red
They just look like coveant brutes most of the time
In infinite?
Also yea I wish every covenant species got new armor in the banished
To signify that they are not the covenant and are powerful enough for that
The SOS grunts were more different than the banished grunts
Infinite or HW2
Is it me or does the carbine actually look bigger than the AR
@cedar surge
Well elite hands are big and remember brutes use carbines too and there massive
Infinite or HW2
@cedar surge
In infinite but it a demo so will see
Woops I meant commando
@cedar surge
Really it looked barely larger than an smg
Well its a toy so that might be why
Oh you mean toys
Yea
halo is ring shape
I was thinking the games
side kick looks sad
Like magnum in escalations big
Well escalations art style may have been the cause of that
people will never love it as much
Its a comic and sometimes comics scale horribly
it look nothing like what we loved
Am alright with it
Sometimes I just wish they made unsc weapons normal sized at the start
And I really like the bulldog
Bulldog holographic sights when
Bulldog with hardlight when
Bulldog with mac cannon when
How many of 4 and 5 weapons will come back you think?
Cause there was a big ammount
Most
Well they said semi
Some maybe like gears 5
That handled small scale open world really well
Yeah
So do you think the banished will actually go on patrols?
hmmmm
Well yeah
Or just stay in one place and get sniped like in odst
They will probably move
They are hunting the remaining humans on the ring
Well we did see a echo base in the Demo
That could be cool, to get weapons and stuff
So that will probably be our main base of operations
But the weirdest thing is
Is how the demo supposedly takes place like 7 hours in
I do wonder if there will be some base mechanic though
If it is open world there has to be
We also know you will be able to rescue marines
Like by the way they are talking you would expect this to be one of the first few levels
But its Actually 7 hours in
Yeah but 7 hours in
Eyy maybe we could actually use HW series vehicles for the first time
They talk as if they spent the last few hours in space
Like the mastadon to transport troops
Or using the grizzly to smash through banished lines
Eyy maybe we could actually use HW series vehicles for the first time
@cedar surge
Drivable blisterback when?
I just want to see HW vehicles in a main game alright?
Like the farthest they got was Spartan strike
And I just want to play as a Grunt.
Imagine driving a HW2 style condor
Live for a year,get beat by brutes,then get gunned down by marines?
Mass effect halo edition
Live for a year,get beat by brutes,then get gunned down by marines?
@cedar surge
You play as a spec ops grunt
Is it so bad I want to steamroll banished in a grizzly?
Nope
Ah so you get beat to death by a crazed gamma
You play as slolt
And play cards with other Grunts...
There no die
Brian Reeds comes back and kills you for a dramatic death scene
With a face like that no wonder
I also hope for many unsc troop types
Like I want those railguns marines
Or hellbringers marines
The army
Well the armor still use the same aarmor
But the marines are using different armor
Just very similar
A game were you play as an Elite detective and have a grunt partner
there are several bases in infinite
A game were you play as an Elite detective and have a grunt partner
@dense pulsar YES 343 TAKE MY MONEY I WILL GIVE YOU MY LIGE
LIFE*
343 LISTEN
okay maybe I overreacted a little sorry
Still, I would buy it

Oh wait there are 7 bases in infinite?
Banished bases or unsc?
So do you think the ring that cortana was lighting in the 5 legendary ending will ever come into play?
Its not like she can fire it
Unless she wants everybody dead
Who knows
But its clear that the unsc isn't just the infinity
Hey wait if a ring gets as damaged as zeta halo did wouldn't the ark replace it?
Only if it had been fully destroyed
Rings getting destroyed left and right
So does 343 Remeber that shield world with a megstructure ring around it surrounded by multiple planets with a huge fleet of forerunner ships in escalations?
That seems a bit important
So does the banished treat its members worse than the covenant
Sure seems like it
they yeet grunts at there foes
atleast brutes in covendant didnt throw grunts at us
Didn't know it was opposite day
Covenant: win this battle for the Great Journey
Banished: win this battle because I told you too
they could achieve a lot if they sided with the humans but I guess the humans killed all of Atriox's brothers so I understand why they wouldn't
Humanity as a species?
Why would the unsc or UEG in general work with the banished
The banished are mercenary pirates
Also Atriox doesn't have anyt;ing against humanity
Also I find the whole "whole species allying with a whole another species" a bit dumb
Not everyone is going to agreed to it
Even after the schism some elites still believe in the great journy
Odd the only named one is Luro's favtion and the Keepers
What about xytan
He was like a covenant remnant for like less than a week I think
Think less than a day
"Check out this super important guy you're just now hearing abo - aaaand he's dead."
Also I find the whole "whole species allying with a whole another species" a bit dumb
Fun fact! That trope is called "Species of Hats" and it's super annoying
i.e. all Bothans being good spies
I heard "Planet of Hats". But yeah, the bane of my existence
"Elites are honorable"
"Brutes are savage"
"Grunts are cowardly"
"Jackals are pirates"
"Hunters are..."
"Drones are..."
This is why I wish 343 and bungies were more specific
No not all the elites helped humanity
No this is not the actual covenant,just a remnant
No every species did not go back to their home planet
No the suit does not
Actually how do bothans make good spies?
Like they seem pretty similar to other star wars races except for facial and skin features
No clue
Hey wait
What if the harbinger is the leader of a group of covenant fringe species
Who banded together for survival
^
Who knows, maybe
Yea I do
Like we havnt really seen them
And alone they were not good enough for the covenant
But together maybe
I think its the faction of constructs led by the warden, that were originally led by cortana before she joined back with the chief
(i can explain my whole theory again, if needed, cause it makes sense)
But Wouldn't the wardin still be under her control?
Why is halo reach important to the main halo story
Because it pretty much kicks everything off
It kicks master chief story's off?
In a meta way, it serves as the backdrop of why he is at halo in CE
It kicks off master chiefs story but also kicks off Arbiters ( Thel 'Vadamee) story. The fleet that randomly showed up to reach and flooded them was arbiters fleet in which ran the pillar of autumn to halo (after the end cut scene). After john destroys Alpha Halo, thats when halo 2 gets kicked off and Thel becomes the Arbiter
it's really the beginning of the end of the Human Covenant war
Kindda sucks that the agreement of Human-Covenant peace lasted one game lol
Makes sense
Well the covenant really didn't agree to that peace agreemeant
Cause it was dead
They signed it with the elites
More So their representative the Swords of Sanghellios
Or at least, the Elites allied with Thel and Rtas. - Yeah
Yeah, not all sangheili admittedly
And not all elites agreed to that
Many are covenant remnants are pirates and mercs
The arbiter had to fight a while civil war about this
(Which is a like halfway through ONIs fault)
Yeh
Lots of splinter groups and remnants poppin up
All those human deaths are partly on ONI
Cortana with the hammer ATP
But yea I bet its going to take a loooong time before they start not popping up or at least not as much anymore
Unfortantly halo is afraid of large timeskips
Or this whole Created business shakes things up
Well I don't see how
It would just cement their religion
Or it could just
Make them super mad
That the devils AI are controlling their gods machines
I say it separately because Halopedia and the Halo wiki like to use remnant and splinter interchangeably.
IMO some groups are splinters while others are remnants
Splinter is before the breaking up right?
Would love to see a story where ONI gets taken down a peg
Maybe Hunt the Truth could do that
Not really possible
ONI will never get taken down
ONI is simply too big and powerful
Maybe in Infinite it'll turnout Cortana killed all ONI personnel not on the Infinity.
Man with that kind of plot convinece we have some left over for six to be alive!
He's just in a cave
Remnants include Jul's Covenant, Keepers of the One Freedom, and Merg Vol's Covenant.
Heavily wounded,shot multiple times by plasma,ganged up on by two high ranking elites. Yea right
Could be worse
We even see the elite swinging his sword right into six right before the camera cuts away
The only way to survive this is the force or
Neural Physics
Idk lol. I saw some theories that six is still alive but nah
Nah indeed
I hated how the camera just cuts away like that. It should've cut to black.
Time traveling Forerunner crystals
1second
All we needed of one more second of his hand falling limp
Or the elite completing his stab
yeah lol
He dies but then a while later a wandering Ghost resurrects him and he becomes a Guardian
wait what
Guardians are made by custodes
No I know but him Overlord saying that threw me off lol
Or are custodes
not that kind of Guardian lmao
Well it has happened to AI before
ahhhhh
Like guilty spark being alive
I havnt read The fall of reach so im not sure. I only know about reach by youtubers
Or his old name chakas
If Guilty Spark is alive it just means I can splazer him again
You can't he us on a forerunner salvage ship
Yes there are humans using a forerunner ship to salvage things
That won't stop the Chief
Seeing as how guilty tried to kill him before but trusted him in 3 I would say chief would do the same
Well Guilty tried to kill him because Guilty was infected with the Logic Plague supposedly
That was probably just normal Rampancy
But Guilty was made from Human (Chakas) so yeah I dont think it would be AI rampancy
Im on the first book of the forerunner trilogy and watching videos spoiled that Chakas is Guilty Spark rip lol
More just general insanity from many thousand of years of loneliness.
Should have got a hobby
Should've played Halo as a hobby