#lore-and-universe | Halo | Page 404

craggy sierra Sep 17, 2020, 4:06 AM

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In fact I’m pretty sure Halo’s universe is predominately socialist

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 4:06 AM

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If your talking about meridian

vague scroll Sep 17, 2020, 4:06 AM

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Post-glassing, Meridian belongs to Liang-Dortmund

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 4:06 AM

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No it doesnt

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Its contracted by the unsc to unglass it

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They just have workers living there

vague scroll Sep 17, 2020, 4:07 AM

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The UEG doesn’t have a presence there at all

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Their AI is a corporately-elected governor

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The armor description for FOTUS also makes a subtle reference to Shadowrun while establishing corporate shadow wars in Seattle

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It’s a mix of government surveillance state and corporate superpowers, essentially cyberpunk undertones

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 4:10 AM

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Well at least liang is unglassing a colony and not waging war against the unsc

craggy sierra Sep 17, 2020, 4:10 AM

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I’m pretty sure Halo’s still socialist considering AI and automation will have just deleted like 80% of the jobs we have today by then. Like even a single dumb AI could probably run entire departments of an office building single handedly. Like most of the job market is just going to not exist.

vague scroll Sep 17, 2020, 4:11 AM

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Dark Moon Enterprises, formed by Intrepid Eye, hired and planted UNSC veterans as mercs and encouraged them to go to battle with ONI

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 4:11 AM

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Who?

vague scroll Sep 17, 2020, 4:12 AM

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Forerunner Ai featured in Halo: Last Light/Retribution

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 4:12 AM

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Intrepid eye is a innies group who formed a corporation who use unsc vets to fight ONI

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Am I gettibg that right?

stiff creek Sep 17, 2020, 4:13 AM

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Nope.

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Not really, but maybe a little.

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 4:13 AM

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Why would the vets go to war with the military they fought for

gilded mason Sep 17, 2020, 4:13 AM

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“It started as a corporate mining town. The whole thing was laid out and designed to keep all money in the corporation. You worked for them, paid rent to stay in an apartment they built run by a division of the mining company. You shopped at company-run stores. You traveled on the company line. It is an example that used to be taught in business schools.”

“So what’s happening now?”

“They had a monopoly: they started raising prices dramatically. People became trapped. Once here, the price of living exceeded their company pay, putting them further and further in debt with no way out.

“It became a problem when a rival company tried to get mining rights and was barred by the puppet government the company had funded here on Charybdis IX. So the new company funded dissatisfied and trapped workers back in ’25, hoping to shake things up politically a bit, and Scyllion’s police shot a few of them during a protest march. Since then, Insurrectionists have been a huge problem here. Scyllion’s corporate masters are now spending more money on trying to get everything they can off planet and back to colonies closer to Earth to protect their assets. ONI recommended that the UNSC implement martial law last year."
^ regarding the colony Charybdis IX before/during the Covenant War

Seems like the UEG didn't care about what was happening until people began fighting back.

stiff creek Sep 17, 2020, 4:13 AM

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Jesus

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 4:14 AM

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Jeez

vague scroll Sep 17, 2020, 4:14 AM

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@cedar surge money is good

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That’s why

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 4:14 AM

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That sounds horrible

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They can't even get off the plant since everybody is in debt

gilded mason Sep 17, 2020, 4:15 AM

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Yup

vague scroll Sep 17, 2020, 4:15 AM

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Dark Moon was described as one of the few human factions to go toe to toe with ONI and what freaked ONI out was it seemed to appear overnight (and it’s because it literally did form overnight)

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 4:15 AM

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No wonder there are so many innies

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The UEG keeps shootibg itself in the foot

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No at this point they just cut off the whole leg

vague scroll Sep 17, 2020, 4:16 AM

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When you’re a giant bureaucratic organization ruling over a generous 26+ billion human population spread across light years and 800+ colonial holdings. Shooting yourself in the foot is kind of normal.

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Empires are messy business.

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 4:17 AM

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39 billion before the war

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16 billion left

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So less opportunities to shoot yourself

gilded mason Sep 17, 2020, 4:18 AM

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Always a silver lining. 😎

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 4:18 AM

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And probably around 80 colonies left

vague scroll Sep 17, 2020, 4:18 AM

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Aren’t those numbers guesstimated from Halo Canon/I00?

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 4:18 AM

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Well we do know 23 billion did die

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And there was 39 billion at the start of the war

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And mythos says around a few dozen colonies left

vague scroll Sep 17, 2020, 4:19 AM

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39 billion was the number given for how many records that ONI had available for analysis in Halsey’s journal. There’s still some debate in the lore circles whether that was the actual upper limit of the human population

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 4:21 AM

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Shouldn't that be lower limit since there could be people ONI missed?

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Like innies colonies hiding in asteroids?

vague scroll Sep 17, 2020, 4:22 AM

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That’s the idea though the point of saying upper limit is that people were taking it at face value

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So yes, you’re absolutely right - I’m just describing it from a different direction if that makes sense

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 4:30 AM

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Well there is one bright side of the created uprising

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A corruption reset

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Or would the created just leave corporations be and just go after the unsc

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So are there other colonies this bad?

gilded mason Sep 17, 2020, 4:36 AM

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It stands to reason

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Rebellions tend to not appear for no reason. (usually)

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 4:42 AM

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Wonder if any covenant colonies got this bad

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There must have at least been a couple

gilded mason Sep 17, 2020, 4:43 AM

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Probably

terse lava Sep 17, 2020, 4:52 AM

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There were according to the CRS bio in warfleet

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 4:52 AM

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The covenant also had corporations right? Like that forge corporation that makes most of their weapons

lethal comet Sep 17, 2020, 4:53 AM

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Sacred Promissory

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Or the merchants of Qikost

terse lava Sep 17, 2020, 4:54 AM

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They did, armories, merchants, weapon forgers, etc

dense pulsar Sep 17, 2020, 4:56 AM

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Give half your colonies cause u lost the war

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 4:57 AM

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That joke was like 10 hours ago

terse lava Sep 17, 2020, 4:58 AM

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Technically no one won/lost the war

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 5:00 AM

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The elites did

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Humanity survived

dense pulsar Sep 17, 2020, 5:02 AM

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Yea facts. Humanities goal was to survive, which they did. The Covenant also fractured as an effective political organization

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 5:06 AM

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Still find it stupid that species went back to their homeworrld after the war

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Its not like the covenant was a small nation

gilded mason Sep 17, 2020, 5:06 AM

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I just choose to ignore it, since it makes no sense

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 5:06 AM

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It had billions upon billions of members

craggy sierra Sep 17, 2020, 5:10 AM

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I mean not everyone did evidently

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It seems kinda like the only people who did was Thel and Rtas.

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I find it not impossible to believe all the races kinda became a good bit more separated afterwards.

versed helm Sep 17, 2020, 5:20 AM

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they had had enough, i guess. that figures why nobody tried to mess around for a bit

craggy sierra Sep 17, 2020, 5:25 AM

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I mean most moderates not fully in on the devout ideology would probably want to just go home out of it. This who were still in on it fell in with Jul’s group. If anything I’m struggling to think of the case scenario for people that resulted in them wanting to join the banished post-war.

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Cause didn’t their numbers get large bumps after that?

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Soldiers of fortune?

gilded mason Sep 17, 2020, 5:26 AM

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If anything I’m struggling to think of the case scenario for people that resulted in them wanting to join the banished post-war.
They made poor choices throughout their lives beforehand with this just adding to the pile?

craggy sierra Sep 17, 2020, 5:26 AM

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Soldiers of fortune it is

gilded mason Sep 17, 2020, 5:26 AM

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lol

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 5:27 AM

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Well I can see jackals easily joining the banished

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Many of them are pirates and mercs

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Which line up with the banished

gilded mason Sep 17, 2020, 5:28 AM

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muffled screaming in the distance

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 5:28 AM

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All they have to do is also on a new coat of paint

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I say many of them

gilded mason Sep 17, 2020, 5:28 AM

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Oh man that actually reminds me

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 5:28 AM

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Not all

gilded mason Sep 17, 2020, 5:29 AM

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You know how they got rid of the original artist for the Let Volir issue of Rise of Atriox with the really good art?

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 5:29 AM

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And it got downgraded?

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Heavily?

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Yea

gilded mason Sep 17, 2020, 5:29 AM

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It turns out, they scrapped his comic because he included Jackals in the Banished and 343 didn't want that.

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 5:29 AM

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What

gilded mason Sep 17, 2020, 5:29 AM

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Like...what the heck?

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 5:29 AM

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Why?

gilded mason Sep 17, 2020, 5:30 AM

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I honestly have no idea what they were thinking

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 5:30 AM

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Is it because they are not in HW2?

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That was good art

gilded mason Sep 17, 2020, 5:30 AM

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I-I guess??

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 5:30 AM

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For something as little as that...

gilded mason Sep 17, 2020, 5:30 AM

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It's so odd

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Like...

craggy sierra Sep 17, 2020, 5:30 AM

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They couldn’t have just gotten him to like edit them out or something?

gilded mason Sep 17, 2020, 5:31 AM

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I guess not

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I don't know why

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 5:32 AM

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Would it have really been that hard to tell him to replace them with grunts

gilded mason Sep 17, 2020, 5:33 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 5:33 AM

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Like that issue just didn't look right sometimes

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Like that shot of let volir from above

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Don't know what's 343s problem with jackals in the banished

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The faction matches up with what most jackals do in lore

dense pulsar Sep 17, 2020, 6:03 AM

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Yeah, they're opportunistic

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 6:13 AM

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So does the skirmishers interact with the jackals on the planet much? They are on its moon

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Actually if they are related how did the skirmishers get on the moon in the first place

craggy sierra Sep 17, 2020, 6:15 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Evolved from the same vague cosmic stardust in the region

last anchor Sep 17, 2020, 6:26 AM

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Who knows man

versed helm Sep 17, 2020, 6:33 AM

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im a bit confused here. i thought skirmishers were a sub-type of kig yaar

dense pulsar Sep 17, 2020, 6:42 AM

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Same

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I thought they went extinct on Reach too

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 6:43 AM

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They didn't

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They are related to the jackals

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But came from the moon of the jackal planet

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Which is confusing since how could they be related since they are on a different planet and moon

versed helm Sep 17, 2020, 6:55 AM

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maybe the kig yaar went onto the moon

dense pulsar Sep 17, 2020, 6:58 AM

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yeah they're like space piratea

versed helm Sep 17, 2020, 7:03 AM

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could be that they went there, some stayed behind to claim

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and then adapting to the planet caused them to change

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y'know, darwinism

remote spruce Sep 17, 2020, 7:14 AM

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the artist was told to redraw

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artist said no, and bailed cause he don't operate like that (justified but that's one way to burn a bridge)

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 7:16 AM

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@versed helm i very much doubt that the skirmishers would have evolved so differently from the jackals in the short amount of time of colonizing the moon

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Plus skirmishers came from the moon

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Not that they went there and evolved into a different version

remote spruce Sep 17, 2020, 7:17 AM

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halo biology is sketchy, especially when one looks at the so called subspecies or phenotypes or whatever

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 7:17 AM

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The two jackal variants make sense

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The s kirmishers evolving on the moon yet still bring related to them does not

versed helm Sep 17, 2020, 7:18 AM

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wait. after the firing of the ring, species were placed on planets by the forerunners, right

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 7:20 AM

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Yes

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However

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They weren't placed on new planets

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They were placed back onto their homeworlds

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And the skirmisher homework is the jackal moon

versed helm Sep 17, 2020, 7:21 AM

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maybe the forerunners placed jackals on both, and the ones on the moon evolved into skirmishers

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cause, we dont know anything about this stuff from before the great forerunner plan to repopulate the galaxy

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we have no idea what all the kig yaar had done before the firing

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im betting both theories hold true

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that the kig yaar had gotten onto the moon, but adapted to the moon, causing the changes

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 7:23 AM

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Well we actually do

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In origins we see the jackals during the firering of the halos

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And they were still primitives

versed helm Sep 17, 2020, 7:24 AM

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before firing, or after firing?

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 7:27 AM

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Like the halo slipspace there before firering

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Origions showed the rings arriving at the homework of the brutes,elites, and jackals

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And they were all primitives

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So the jackals couldn't have made it to the moon

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And even after they were reeseeded their technological progress would have been reset

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So it would have taken even longer

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Maybe a few thousand years to get to rocketry

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So it would take even longer for the jackals to get to the moon

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Let alone colonize it

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And what conditions on the moon would force the skirmishers to look so different

lethal comet Sep 17, 2020, 7:37 AM

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Maybe a keyship with specimens crashed on the moon

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 7:37 AM

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That wouldn't make sense

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If the moon wasn't colonized by then the skirmishers would just be dead

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Plus its a forerunner ship

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I heavily doubt they can be harmed from crashing

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And there wouldn't be any reason for the forerunner ship to crash

lethal comet Sep 17, 2020, 7:39 AM

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I have the answer

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Neural Physics

gilded mason Sep 17, 2020, 7:40 AM

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👍

round comet Sep 17, 2020, 7:40 AM

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ah yes neural physics

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halo's version of panpsychism

versed helm Sep 17, 2020, 8:01 AM

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when in doubt, neural physics

clear sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 9:19 AM

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This server isn't active either 🗿

versed helm Sep 17, 2020, 11:35 AM

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it isnt active rn

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dont mean it isnt at all

jolly furnace Sep 17, 2020, 12:07 PM

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Visuals of Covie species on their planets during Halo firing in Halo Legends are of dubious accuracy.

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Due to Cortana rampancy and incomplete info

versed helm Sep 17, 2020, 12:18 PM

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i dont think she coulda corrupted the playback so that space age stuff looks like stone age stuff

smoky crown Sep 17, 2020, 12:27 PM

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Who do you think is the most deadly elite rank??? I think it may e bob ship master

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be*

sharp adder Sep 17, 2020, 12:31 PM

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I would say zealots or the one with the arbiter with the choking fetish

smoky crown Sep 17, 2020, 12:31 PM

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oof maybe supreme commander?

versed helm Sep 17, 2020, 12:32 PM

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imma assume arbiter

smoky crown Sep 17, 2020, 12:32 PM

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oofing intensifie

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intensifies*

versed helm Sep 17, 2020, 12:32 PM

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cause, before they got stuck in the covenant pyramid scheme, the arbiter was the rank given to the strongest sangheili

sharp adder Sep 17, 2020, 12:33 PM

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Yeah the 2 most famous are h2-3 arbiter and the one with the choking fetish

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 12:34 PM

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Could you specify which elite from halo wars likes chocking people?

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That doesn't really narrow it down

smoky crown Sep 17, 2020, 12:34 PM

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uhhhhh'

sharp adder Sep 17, 2020, 12:34 PM

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The arbiter in hw1 every scene he is in he is choking something

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The obe who got killed by forge

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 12:35 PM

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I was making a joke

sharp adder Sep 17, 2020, 12:35 PM

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The one who took Anders

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 12:35 PM

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Even in the trailers elites were chocking people

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I was joking

smoky crown Sep 17, 2020, 12:35 PM

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oof

sharp adder Sep 17, 2020, 12:35 PM

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Yeah but he is always choking something

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Every cutscene

versed helm Sep 17, 2020, 12:49 PM

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for someone who's name has "rip" in it, ripa moramee sure likes to choke people

smoky crown Sep 17, 2020, 1:22 PM

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that's arbiter

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The armour is named that way but every Arbiter gets it

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Kinda sad that h5 ended without more Covenant vs Arbiter

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Maybe 6 will contain that

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 1:36 PM

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Well actually it probably wont

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Since the arbiter won

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The SoS won the war against covenant

versed helm Sep 17, 2020, 1:38 PM

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Do you think that the Flood's ultimate goal of Universal infection comes in line with the mantle of responsibility that they invented while they were still Precursors?

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 1:38 PM

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Yes

lethal comet Sep 17, 2020, 1:43 PM

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The precursors just wanted the whole galaxy to suffer when they became the flood

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A galaxy filled with pain and suffering

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 1:46 PM

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what swell people

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does a pod infector need to go inside a person?

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couldn't it just swipe at a person making a cut and the person gets infected anyway?

versed helm Sep 17, 2020, 2:05 PM

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the lore has them boring into people's chests. either that, or going into their mouths and exploding out their chests, Aliens style. i guess they work by infecting the lungs and heart, that helps spread the infection into the rest of the body real quick. theoretically, a cut could work, since the infection would go in, but would work much slower

jolly furnace Sep 17, 2020, 2:05 PM

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If some Flood DNA or spores get inside the cut then yes I think

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Flood infectors went inside mouths?...

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Ugghhhhhhhhhh

versed helm Sep 17, 2020, 2:06 PM

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idk man. they are found in holes in chests. its a possibility

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but a small one

jolly furnace Sep 17, 2020, 2:06 PM

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Yeah if FSC gets into blood stream infection will be slow

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U may get sick and weakened

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as what happened to AH soldiers in early human-forerunner war

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They were infected but not converted

versed helm Sep 17, 2020, 2:07 PM

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yep

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the flood gave AH the flu, but gave forerunners the death

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 2:10 PM

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yea in a simulation has a pod infecotr inside a spartans mouth in halo 4 infection

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with the skull exploded out

jolly furnace Sep 17, 2020, 2:17 PM

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Lovely

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Yeah I wonder though if the slow infection was natural for FSC in DNA or just Flood being selective

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Can Flood choose speed of infection process in an individual or group depending on how infection is done or not?

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Cos we know Flood can choose to some extent

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Like can it choose if one human is infected or not?

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Say infect human A, spare human B

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Or infect human A quick

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Infect human B slowly

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Gotta wonder

versed helm Sep 17, 2020, 2:32 PM

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i guess it would vary on the species

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like, it work on a species in a set way

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how it did with the forerunners and humans

jolly furnace Sep 17, 2020, 2:39 PM

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same as in games

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They used infectors, spores, FSC etc

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Only AHs were infected but not converting during early h-f war

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 2:40 PM

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well i say they could

jolly furnace Sep 17, 2020, 2:40 PM

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They got sick and weak but could still fight

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 2:40 PM

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they could have assmilated keyes quickly but slowly tortured him for info

jolly furnace Sep 17, 2020, 2:40 PM

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I think that was due to Flood FSC in their blood

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They didn't need Earth's location as they already knew it so they much have wanted all his other knowledge

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Also to absorb him cos of "sweetness"

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they whole eternal suffering as punishement thing

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mentioned by Primy in Silentium

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 2:42 PM

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did they already know? wasn't the ark safegaurded?

jolly furnace Sep 17, 2020, 2:42 PM

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Earth was known to Flood

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Ark locale wasn't

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Or if they did know they couldn't get there

humble yacht Sep 17, 2020, 2:42 PM

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They knew

jolly furnace Sep 17, 2020, 2:43 PM

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Actually I think they did know its locale cos they go there straight from Mars

humble yacht Sep 17, 2020, 2:43 PM

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They learned from MB

jolly furnace Sep 17, 2020, 2:43 PM

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Did MB know?

humble yacht Sep 17, 2020, 2:43 PM

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Of course

jolly furnace Sep 17, 2020, 2:43 PM

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I thought it was super secret

humble yacht Sep 17, 2020, 2:43 PM

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It was

jolly furnace Sep 17, 2020, 2:43 PM

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Only MB and a few knew its exact locale

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Fair enough

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Forerunner Saga inconcistancies maybe

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Maybe the Forerunners should have kept Arks mobile outside galaxy

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On the move

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not stay in one place

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Assuming they could actually move it via slipspace

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It may have been too big for that

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Though they could have moved it in pieces

humble yacht Sep 17, 2020, 2:46 PM

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Thatd be dumb, you don’t want the ark to be in a state where it couldn’t trigger the rings on demand

jolly furnace Sep 17, 2020, 2:51 PM

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True but still a way to ensure its location doesn't become known to Flood

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Also who says they need to have it in a complete state

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Just have the nessecary parts

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Just make sure the citadels and the systems running it are in tact

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I mean essentially the Ark is just a remote trigger switch for the Halo array

humble yacht Sep 17, 2020, 2:53 PM

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We have no idea how much of the ark was required for proper functioning

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It might need 100%

jolly furnace Sep 17, 2020, 2:54 PM

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Maybe but I imagine the Forerunners could make so it could work with just the basic aparts

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I mean if I was building it, I'd create the main Halo array firing components first and its power source stuff

humble yacht Sep 17, 2020, 2:55 PM

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Well you didn’t build it 😛

jolly furnace Sep 17, 2020, 2:55 PM

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make all the habitable environments for species afteer

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Heck didnt the lattter only happen cos Librarian and co

humble yacht Sep 17, 2020, 2:56 PM

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For 4 years the array remained incomplete because the ark got a little scuffed

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Didn’t make a new ring until repairs were complete

jolly furnace Sep 17, 2020, 2:56 PM

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Faber and co had no intention of housing life on it or the rings if i recall right

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 3:32 PM

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nothing better than reading something from a aliens perspective with a different culture and seeing them use human terms

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max creativity there

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why would they even use these terms which they likely wouldn't even know what it means

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so the covenant nver tried to in atmo slipspace jump in atmosphere before cortana did it?

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So

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Do grunts have any government at all?

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 4:24 PM

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so the forerunners had thousands of other races in the empire right?

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where did they go

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 4:40 PM

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encouter them

lethal comet Sep 17, 2020, 4:52 PM

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We know a lot of them were catalogued

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Don't know if the reseeding was successful

humble yacht Sep 17, 2020, 4:55 PM

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many races were catalogued but nowhere near all

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they simply did not have enough time

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the reseeding went fine, as far as we know

lethal comet Sep 17, 2020, 5:09 PM

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We know the reseeding was successful but don't don't know if was perfect

humble yacht Sep 17, 2020, 5:09 PM

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that's not what you said before

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Don't know if the reseeding was successful

lethal comet Sep 17, 2020, 5:10 PM

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Poor choice of words ig

humble yacht Sep 17, 2020, 5:12 PM

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Poor choice of words ig
https://64.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7uur9AR2N1qion87o3_500.gif

west silo Sep 17, 2020, 6:27 PM

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Wonder if the other variants of the kig yar survived since there were like 75 of them

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 6:28 PM

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thats a lot

west silo Sep 17, 2020, 6:45 PM

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Most of them are dead

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Unfortunately

noble sedge Sep 17, 2020, 6:47 PM

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Hello there

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 6:50 PM

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general kenobi

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so does the covenant have a intelligance agency?

west silo Sep 17, 2020, 6:58 PM

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Well they do have a black ops team that can track ships in slipspace

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They also don't use cruisers because stealth

stable flower Sep 17, 2020, 7:06 PM

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Don't know what's 343s problem with jackals in the banished
@cedar surge Or low-ranking Grunts and Elites looking exactly like Covenant Minors.

west silo Sep 17, 2020, 7:07 PM

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Well that's only in the infinite demo

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Which I have no idea why they did that

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 7:11 PM

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Yea I would guess that since the covenant is so recognizable tjey just used their color scheme and armor

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Again

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For gameplay

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Even the banished can't step out of the covenant a shadow

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But it look like higher up banished members are wearing banished armor

west silo Sep 17, 2020, 7:15 PM

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But wait doesn't the demo mean that the banished do use kig yar

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Maybe the reason there not on the ark is because atriox doesn't trust them

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 7:18 PM

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Why would Atriox not trust a entire race

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He has nothing against any species

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Not even humanity

gilded mason Sep 17, 2020, 7:21 PM

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Because all members of a race are the same, you silly~!

craggy sierra Sep 17, 2020, 7:21 PM

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Space racism

gilded mason Sep 17, 2020, 7:22 PM

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Oh yeah.

west silo Sep 17, 2020, 7:22 PM

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I didn't mean that

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I was just throwing ideas

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What do u think then?

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They missed the space flight?

humble yacht Sep 17, 2020, 7:23 PM

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Space racism
Spacism

gilded mason Sep 17, 2020, 7:23 PM

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Grim acknowledged that the whole "Elite Minors typically commit suicide if they aren't promoted at the end of a campaign" thing is something 343 doesn't really 'acknowledge'.

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Which I am thankful for

west silo Sep 17, 2020, 7:23 PM

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It still funny that they actually made it canon though

gilded mason Sep 17, 2020, 7:24 PM

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Though that was made canon in the Encyclopedia from 09, which was...y'know

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 7:24 PM

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Well its typically

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Not forced to

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So some minors would have refused to commit suicide

west silo Sep 17, 2020, 7:25 PM

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Yeah mountain busting brutes I remember

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I actually wish that one was still canon

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Just a little

gilded mason Sep 17, 2020, 7:26 PM

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I see it more as "Some Elites feel the desire to commit suicide."

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 7:30 PM

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Seriously though who expects a fresh soldier to commit suicide for not getting promoted during their first campaign

gilded mason Sep 17, 2020, 7:30 PM

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Exactly

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 7:30 PM

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Like imagine how many commited suicide during the HCW

gilded mason Sep 17, 2020, 7:30 PM

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Which is why I'm glad Grim implicitly said it's silly

faint stone Sep 17, 2020, 7:32 PM

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that'd be pretty cool

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lets have random elites if they lose their squad just randomly kill themselves in a game

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sounds great

west silo Sep 17, 2020, 7:34 PM

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Actually minors aren't squad leaders are they

faint stone Sep 17, 2020, 7:34 PM

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they lead small squads still

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of grunts

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doesn't make them majors or suh

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such

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but you know what i mean lol

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 7:35 PM

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I'm just going to say that truth put that idea into young sanghelli minds to weaken them for when he has brutes take over

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That's the only way to me it could make sense

gilded mason Sep 17, 2020, 7:36 PM

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Why even acknowledge it, Laaance

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Just say it doesn't exist

west silo Sep 17, 2020, 7:39 PM

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Its already been written

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Its like how elites go higher in rank with the more kills they get

gilded mason Sep 17, 2020, 7:40 PM

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Its already been written```
Johnson being immune to the Flood was also written.

west silo Sep 17, 2020, 7:41 PM

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And people still bring it up to this day

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Despite it being non canon

gilded mason Sep 17, 2020, 7:42 PM

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Exactly

west silo Sep 17, 2020, 7:43 PM

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The amount of time people bring it up is annoying

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Dang it doesn't even make sense in the book why would oni not dissect Johnson for a cure just because chief said no

humble yacht Sep 17, 2020, 7:45 PM

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it was written, then it was retconned out, and then it may have been retconned back in?

gilded mason Sep 17, 2020, 7:45 PM

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Because John wouldn't tell ONI the information that would cause them to do so

west silo Sep 17, 2020, 7:46 PM

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Wouldn't oni have gotten a debriefing from both johnson and chief

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 7:46 PM

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Wasn't it it easy that johnson was immune

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It was that his nervous syatem was just so damaged

west silo Sep 17, 2020, 7:47 PM

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The camera footage wouldn't lie

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 7:47 PM

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That he looked Like moldy bread to the flood?

west silo Sep 17, 2020, 7:47 PM

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That wouldn't make him immune

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 7:47 PM

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Yea

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He isn't immune

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That's what I'm saying

gilded mason Sep 17, 2020, 7:47 PM

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That's the new canon, yeah. That he seems a bit 'stale'.

west silo Sep 17, 2020, 7:48 PM

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Well the comic already fixes it

gilded mason Sep 17, 2020, 7:48 PM

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But still edible

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 7:48 PM

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He just looks really unappetizing

west silo Sep 17, 2020, 7:48 PM

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Johnson was just a bad**s

faint stone Sep 17, 2020, 7:56 PM

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because oni were like 'yo young blood go get this prison vessel and experiment on them using flood samples, nothing will go wrong because like all horror flicks experimenting with random space horrors alwaaaaaays go right'

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then that prison ship got overrun and they were gonna use it to jump to earth and rip humanity

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the end

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god the mona lisa is one of the good flood stories

west silo Sep 17, 2020, 7:58 PM

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Well they took care of it better than most people

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Am looking at you deadspace

faint stone Sep 17, 2020, 7:58 PM

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dead space had a good way tbh

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oni were just crazy

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wonder who survived, henry the cricket or some random trooper

west silo Sep 17, 2020, 7:59 PM

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Isn't the entire point of deadspace that everyone is crazy

faint stone Sep 17, 2020, 7:59 PM

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basically it's like halo

west silo Sep 17, 2020, 7:59 PM

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No one

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The blast would have killed them

faint stone Sep 17, 2020, 8:00 PM

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a dark emo alien race create the markers to be energy sources which also drive them crazy and mutate them into space zombies and when there's enough mutated space zombies they all form into a big planet which goes to other planets to spread it

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then they went to an aquatic planet who were basically the forerunners who froze the planet just as the planet was forming

west silo Sep 17, 2020, 8:01 PM

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It also makes everyone around it emo

faint stone Sep 17, 2020, 8:01 PM

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basically

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so fish forerunners saved the day

west silo Sep 17, 2020, 8:01 PM

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Well till deadspace 3

faint stone Sep 17, 2020, 8:01 PM

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except we encounter the infected fish forerunners but never had with halo or seen what flood forerunner forms look like

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also yeah the ship exploded and stuff

west silo Sep 17, 2020, 8:02 PM

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Or the fact that people were stupid enough to eat the zombies

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Like come on that was just stupid

faint stone Sep 17, 2020, 8:03 PM

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gotta say flood meat sounds divine

west silo Sep 17, 2020, 8:04 PM

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Na just feed it to your pets it makes them cute and cuddly

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Just ignore the side effects

faint stone Sep 17, 2020, 8:04 PM

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lmao

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ig they just fed it to dogs because why not

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if there was an actual explanation like 'the dogs enjoyed it and basically never ran out' then that'd be good

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but nope just gotta speculate

west silo Sep 17, 2020, 8:08 PM

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Actually that is the reason

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They tested it on dogs
It made them more docile and more adorable and there were no side effects

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Then San shyumm started eating them then generations down the line the flood was born

faint stone Sep 17, 2020, 8:11 PM

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well seems smart enough tbh

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if theres a way to tame animals then i'd use it

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mainly since they'd no clue it was basically the flesh of their gods

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 8:12 PM

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is feeding random space dust to your pets and really good idea?

faint stone Sep 17, 2020, 8:12 PM

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no

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but if it's making the pets beha

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ve

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behave then y not

west silo Sep 17, 2020, 8:12 PM

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They experimented

faint stone Sep 17, 2020, 8:13 PM

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th

west silo Sep 17, 2020, 8:13 PM

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We do it all the time

faint stone Sep 17, 2020, 8:13 PM

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experimentation before doing the actual stuff

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like

west silo Sep 17, 2020, 8:13 PM

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Just not with space dust

faint stone Sep 17, 2020, 8:13 PM

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just a normal thing

west silo Sep 17, 2020, 8:13 PM

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Not for the lack of trying

faint stone Sep 17, 2020, 8:13 PM

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we did that with thalidomide

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because results made the woman feel less pain when she was pregnant

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but then the babies were born with disabilties

west silo Sep 17, 2020, 8:14 PM

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And thats on humans

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That's why u always test on animals first

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Just make sure its not space crack

faint stone Sep 17, 2020, 8:17 PM

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then the future prophets just pulled up and ate the stuff

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probably as seasoning

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then all of a sudden they turned into the flood

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rip the sanshyum

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started a interstellar war against the forerunners

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then ate space dust

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then got wiped out by a halo ring twice

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then got made into an endangered species during the schism

west silo Sep 17, 2020, 8:18 PM

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Then started a war with the humans

faint stone Sep 17, 2020, 8:18 PM

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just can't catch a break

west silo Sep 17, 2020, 8:18 PM

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When will they ever learn

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War bad

faint stone Sep 17, 2020, 8:22 PM

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you know the special forces spartan counterparts they had?

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i read a theory saying that's basically what they were before the rings were fired

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because they did put up a fight with the forerunner empire

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and the forerunner combat skin has better shielding than mark5 mjolnir iirc

west silo Sep 17, 2020, 8:25 PM

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Yeah prelets I think there called

fair hazel Sep 17, 2020, 8:26 PM

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prelate

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Wait I dont see prelate talk

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 8:27 PM

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what?

fair hazel Sep 17, 2020, 8:27 PM

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Prelates are covenant era, not ancient human

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era

faint stone Sep 17, 2020, 8:27 PM

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they're mutants like spartans

fair hazel Sep 17, 2020, 8:27 PM

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That's not the right word..

faint stone Sep 17, 2020, 8:28 PM

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spartans are basically mutants

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augmented humans

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well if this was the witcher lmao they'd get called mutants

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but prelates were basically just xeno scum spartans

fair hazel Sep 17, 2020, 8:29 PM

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Why are you employing those weird terms?

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And, read more on mutations here:

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutant

Mutant

In biology and especially genetics, a mutant is an organism or a new genetic character arising or resulting from an instance of mutation, which is generally an alteration of the DNA sequence of the genome or chromosome of an organism. The term mutant is also applied to a virus...

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Well mutants

nimble crest Sep 17, 2020, 8:30 PM

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Who is Serena a copy of

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Like Roland is a copy of Roland Beaumont

west silo Sep 17, 2020, 8:31 PM

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Well forerunners did mutate themselves a lot are they considered mutants

faint stone Sep 17, 2020, 8:31 PM

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think she's just a smart AI

west silo Sep 17, 2020, 8:31 PM

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Well yeah all smart ais were once people

faint stone Sep 17, 2020, 8:31 PM

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since there's a short story of UNSC agents or ONI asking a family for their deceased daughters brajn

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halsey cloned her brain and used it as a template to create cortana

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because i don't think she'd want to off herself yet

west silo Sep 17, 2020, 8:32 PM

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That was illegal

faint stone Sep 17, 2020, 8:32 PM

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halsey doesn't know the term 'illegal'

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lmao

nimble crest Sep 17, 2020, 8:32 PM

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Halsey wasn’t a law abider.

faint stone Sep 17, 2020, 8:32 PM

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anything she does is illegal lmao

nimble crest Sep 17, 2020, 8:33 PM

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Her greatest creation was illegal

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 8:33 PM

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caring for the spartan 2s?

faint stone Sep 17, 2020, 8:33 PM

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'nice kid there you got, can he guess a coin flip'

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YOINK'

nimble crest Sep 17, 2020, 8:33 PM

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“I like ya genetic markers G”

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 8:33 PM

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to be fair

faint stone Sep 17, 2020, 8:33 PM

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haha stole ur kid have a flash clone

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 8:33 PM

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MJlNIR is cool

faint stone Sep 17, 2020, 8:33 PM

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tyi expires today

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 8:33 PM

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you just gotta sacrifice

nimble crest Sep 17, 2020, 8:33 PM

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Lance is correct

faint stone Sep 17, 2020, 8:34 PM

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spartan 2s be ded

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 8:34 PM

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you familily,social life, and posibility of ever beinga civilian

faint stone Sep 17, 2020, 8:34 PM

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wasn't there a father who went full URF mode to find his stolen daughter?

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and when he found her since she was raised as a soldier before the age of 10 she was like 'nah bro i like being a cyborg'

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 8:39 PM

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well kinda

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it was a guy who was going to mass kill billions of people just to know where his daughter was

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before she came and talked him down

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becaue yea

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one covenant ship could totally beat the unsc navy

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one odp is able to destroy a covenant ship in one shot

west silo Sep 17, 2020, 8:43 PM

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But but but family

faint stone Sep 17, 2020, 8:43 PM

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bbbbbut his daughter

west silo Sep 17, 2020, 8:43 PM

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Is family really not worth the mass murder of billions?

faint stone Sep 17, 2020, 8:43 PM

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say that to

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er

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idk

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any vg villain

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or movie villain

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the didact? just upset because he got logic plagued

west silo Sep 17, 2020, 8:44 PM

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I would be upset too if a talking fly trap ate me

faint stone Sep 17, 2020, 8:45 PM

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and festers in a cool looking orb for hundreds of thousands of years whilst the librarian chilled out

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speaking of which

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there were surviving forerunners right?

west silo Sep 17, 2020, 8:45 PM

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Yep

faint stone Sep 17, 2020, 8:45 PM

#

and the flood still survived too

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till the starved out

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so wouldn't those forerunners had to 1. repair what was damaged

west silo Sep 17, 2020, 8:46 PM

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No one truly won

faint stone Sep 17, 2020, 8:46 PM

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avoid the flood because they were bloody endangered and risked getting eaten by possibly frenzied flood

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then get all sad and leave the galaxy

west silo Sep 17, 2020, 8:46 PM

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They left the galaxy and made there robots do the work

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The flood were technical defeated and trapped on installations

faint stone Sep 17, 2020, 8:48 PM

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still love how halo legends gave us an idea of what the forerunners looked like w/o showing their faces since everyone knew back then they were basically ancient humans

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but also showed the rings outright destroying the flood

west silo Sep 17, 2020, 8:50 PM

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They do destroy the flood

faint stone Sep 17, 2020, 8:51 PM

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i'm lost about that

west silo Sep 17, 2020, 8:51 PM

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Halo 3 basically retconed the whole only destroys there food thing

faint stone Sep 17, 2020, 8:51 PM

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i know the rings basically destroy anything with nerves

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but i'm just hella lost if it destroys the flood as well instead of their food source

west silo Sep 17, 2020, 8:51 PM

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Remember the entire point of 3 fire the rings kill the flood

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It does it just also kills everything else

faint stone Sep 17, 2020, 8:52 PM

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halo 3s story had me lost at some points

west silo Sep 17, 2020, 8:52 PM

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It can even kill plants

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Like literally

dense pulsar Sep 17, 2020, 8:53 PM

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Well

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The ring was incomplete

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The one they fired I mean

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And the ark is on the edge of the galaxy

west silo Sep 17, 2020, 8:54 PM

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halo 3s story had me lost at some points
@faint stone
Half of Africa has been destroyed also has a memorial right at the area that was glassed

dense pulsar Sep 17, 2020, 8:55 PM

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They literally just rebuilt in time for a ceremony lmao

faint stone Sep 17, 2020, 8:55 PM

#

where is new phoenix located again?

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yeah rip half of africa lol

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got invaded and excavated for a blue orb portal THEN flood outbreak and got glassed

west silo Sep 17, 2020, 8:59 PM

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Only one city was destroyed

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And what's funny is that Roland said they let them do it

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Which makes hood sounding angry about it even more funny
When they allowed them too

fair hazel Sep 17, 2020, 9:04 PM

#

half of africa was not destroyed

craggy sierra Sep 17, 2020, 9:04 PM

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I think that was hyperbole

gilded mason Sep 17, 2020, 9:04 PM

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Yeh

cedar surge Sep 17, 2020, 9:10 PM

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Hood does Like his hyperboles

craggy sierra Sep 17, 2020, 9:13 PM

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I just can’t read that line as even coming close to not being hyperbole

west silo Sep 17, 2020, 9:16 PM

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Well yeah I know it's hyperbole

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The ending cutscene even confirms it with them having a memorial right outside of voi

fair hazel Sep 17, 2020, 9:34 PM

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oh and... new phoenix is located in flagstaff/phoenix, arizona...

inner basin Sep 17, 2020, 9:39 PM

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Hood does Like his hyperboles
"The Fleet that destroyed Reach was 50 times this size" is another one of his infamous hyperboles

west silo Sep 17, 2020, 9:40 PM

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Soooo question why did regret not shot the down the frigate That followed him to halo in halo 2

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Like at least prevent it from calling for help

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Like at least prevent them from sending forces to the ground

inner basin Sep 17, 2020, 9:42 PM

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the frigate
The In Amber Clad, I think is the ship name you were looking for. Unless you meant the other ships that made it through too

west silo Sep 17, 2020, 9:42 PM

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Yes that ship

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Frigate is just easier to say

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No but really why?

verbal mesa Sep 17, 2020, 9:49 PM

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question why in the beginning of halo 2 why is sargent locke talking to the arbiter about how he's hunting master chief? master chief didnt go awol yet

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or am i dumb

humble yacht Sep 17, 2020, 9:54 PM

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H2A has bookend cutscenes to tie it into halo 5

verbal mesa Sep 17, 2020, 9:54 PM

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ok but why

humble yacht Sep 17, 2020, 9:54 PM

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Promotion for H5

verbal mesa Sep 17, 2020, 9:55 PM

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ok thank you

inner basin Sep 17, 2020, 10:24 PM

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Yeah H2A (and the MCC as H2A was never sold alone) was released 1 year out from H5, so the cutscenes were, like Chimera said, promotion for H5

faint stone Sep 17, 2020, 10:33 PM

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halo 5 had bad advertising

#

also are noble team ever remembered by the UNSC and the public?

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I'd expect the human-covenant war to become a uni subject since it became humanity's most important historical event to date

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until ofc 5 and infinite

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because noble team especially 6 were essential in saving humanity with the delivery of cortana

inner basin Sep 17, 2020, 11:04 PM

#

also are noble team ever remembered by the UNSC and the public?
There was a statue of Noble Team made

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halo 5 had bad advertising
Also I think Halo 5's advertising wasn't bad. It's just if the game actually lived up to the advertising then it'd be remembered fondly

west silo Sep 17, 2020, 11:06 PM

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The advertising was amazing

faint stone Sep 17, 2020, 11:06 PM

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well that kinda means it was bad

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i liked the live action trailers tho

west silo Sep 17, 2020, 11:07 PM

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The game just ignored everything

faint stone Sep 17, 2020, 11:07 PM

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i feel that they gave the wrong information to the advertisers

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or not enough context

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'so basically, locke and a team are hunting a awol chief'

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so what they go do is make ads making us question things

west silo Sep 17, 2020, 11:08 PM

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HTT is still the best audio drama though

faint stone Sep 17, 2020, 11:08 PM

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oh yeah

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pity what happened to our boyo

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got backstabbed and locked up

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and has to listen to classical music to chill out

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rip benny

west silo Sep 17, 2020, 11:09 PM

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Rip everyone

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Especially pero

inner basin Sep 17, 2020, 11:09 PM

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You mean FERO, right?

west silo Sep 17, 2020, 11:15 PM

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Yes

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Thank u

faint stone Sep 17, 2020, 11:18 PM

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i acc never heard the final part to it

inner basin Sep 17, 2020, 11:46 PM

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You would be doing yourself a favour if you listened to it

west silo Sep 17, 2020, 11:50 PM

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Hey Ben was the guy in the halo graphic novel right?

vague scroll Sep 17, 2020, 11:50 PM

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Second Sunrise over New Mombasa, yes

west silo Sep 17, 2020, 11:51 PM

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The one with the weird art style

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Man I couldn't really like that one

vague scroll Sep 17, 2020, 11:51 PM

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it's because the artist, also named Giraud, was a classical cyberpunk artist

west silo Sep 17, 2020, 11:52 PM

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It just didn't stick with me

vague scroll Sep 17, 2020, 11:52 PM

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Giraud

west silo Sep 17, 2020, 11:52 PM

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And I like the art from halo uprising

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And that could get really weird

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Like the scarab that was reallllly big

grim raven Sep 17, 2020, 11:54 PM

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Egg

west silo Sep 17, 2020, 11:54 PM

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Heads

grim raven Sep 17, 2020, 11:55 PM

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EGGMAN NEGA

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You don’t

urban nova Sep 18, 2020, 1:22 AM

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Hi

versed helm Sep 18, 2020, 2:09 AM

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I believe only 343 members get roles and a select few people

jolly swift Sep 18, 2020, 4:33 AM

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huh

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I was looking at the Amazon page for the Nerf Assault Rifle and I just noticed it's an MA40

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so either it's a MUCH later model than the MA5B

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or it's an MA4 with a little zero to denote that it's the base model

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which explains why it looks so much like the Reach AR

unique rune Sep 18, 2020, 4:35 AM

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Considering it’s extensively modeled after Reach’s MA37...

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It’s... probably just a later iteration of that group of the MA5 family.

jolly swift Sep 18, 2020, 4:36 AM

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considering that the MA5 is the widely adopted bullpup, that means that Chief probably is using an older model that he scavenged

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maybe some of these "new" weapons are just old ones that have been phased out by 2552

unique rune Sep 18, 2020, 4:37 AM

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Or it’s just the latest model of the MA5 series used by the UNSC Army being used by Navy personnel for whatever reason.

jolly swift Sep 18, 2020, 4:38 AM

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but with the name MA4, I'm guessing it's the predecessor to the MA5 platform

unique rune Sep 18, 2020, 4:38 AM

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It’s not

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MA37 was just the UNSC Army equivalent for the MA5 family, I see no reason why the MA40 wouldn’t be in the same boat

astral pivot Sep 18, 2020, 4:39 AM

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so whats the whole deal with the VK78 Commando Rifle and MK50 Sidekick are they new weapon the UNSC built after 2558 or been around before the Created Uprising? because news outlets are saying sidekick will be filling in for magnum until they add it later into the game

unique rune Sep 18, 2020, 4:40 AM

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The Magnum will not be in Halo Infinite at launch, if ever, according to some development posts on Waypoint.

jolly swift Sep 18, 2020, 4:40 AM

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I think the Sidekick will be filling the niche that the Halo 2 and 5 magnum filled, with the magnum reprising its CE role, personally

unique rune Sep 18, 2020, 4:41 AM

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There’s nothing suggesting when the new weapons were originally manufactured, but I think it’d be safe to assume that they’re not anything newly designed after the Created Uprising

jolly swift Sep 18, 2020, 4:41 AM

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they'd have to be insane to retire arguably the most iconic original pistol in gaming

astral pivot Sep 18, 2020, 4:42 AM

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So there just weapons that were developed by the companies UNSC gets it weapons from and state of the universe they just need about any gun they can find?

unique rune Sep 18, 2020, 4:43 AM

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Most likely

jolly swift Sep 18, 2020, 4:43 AM

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it's probably like how it is with NATO

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NATO has a designated bullpup but there's places that have their own rifles and use their own rounds

astral pivot Sep 18, 2020, 4:44 AM

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true

jolly swift Sep 18, 2020, 4:45 AM

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I'm honestly more curious how these new weapons will fit into the sandbox

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the Commando almost seems like the inbetween of the AR and the DMR

astral pivot Sep 18, 2020, 4:45 AM

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the sidekick looks like a glock

jolly swift Sep 18, 2020, 4:46 AM

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reminds me a lot of the Halo 2/ODST SOCOM pistol

astral pivot Sep 18, 2020, 4:46 AM

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the little peashotter

jolly swift Sep 18, 2020, 4:47 AM

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I think what little is left of the UNSC will probably be pulling out whatever old weapons they have in reserve and stuff that maybe they didn't make standard issue

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just whatever they can get their hands on

#

huh

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the display on the nerf AR can be removed and has a rail for other mods

noble sedge Sep 18, 2020, 4:49 AM

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So... UNSC forces on the Zeta halo are in desperate situation

astral pivot Sep 18, 2020, 4:49 AM

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and im assuming the research outposts on Zeta Halo were not armed to teeth since most of UNSC were ill equiped deal with the Banished Assualt

jolly swift Sep 18, 2020, 4:49 AM

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maybe it'll be like Halo 5 weapons and we can swap out sights and stuff

#

the entirety of human space is in a desperate situation

noble sedge Sep 18, 2020, 4:49 AM

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Can we get r/shittytechnicalmods moments?

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In Infinite?

jolly swift Sep 18, 2020, 4:50 AM

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replace the ammo counter on my AR with a literal nother AR

astral pivot Sep 18, 2020, 4:50 AM

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the dual AR

jolly swift Sep 18, 2020, 4:50 AM

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slap like 8 ARs on there and make a minigun

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Lego guns

noble sedge Sep 18, 2020, 4:50 AM

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Imagine a Scorpion Tank with two Gauss cannons ducktaped to its turret

jolly swift Sep 18, 2020, 4:51 AM

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basically a Cobra

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oml

astral pivot Sep 18, 2020, 4:51 AM

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Hannibal Vehicles will you return to us

jolly swift Sep 18, 2020, 4:51 AM

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imagine if we get some Halo Wars vehicles

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we already know we're getting the Wasp

noble sedge Sep 18, 2020, 4:52 AM

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Cursed hogs?

astral pivot Sep 18, 2020, 4:52 AM

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most of one is Halo Wars where phased out such as Hawk because of issues with the wings gremlins proved useless since they were used for human devices not covies

noble sedge Sep 18, 2020, 4:52 AM

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At least WortWort?

dense pulsar Sep 18, 2020, 4:52 AM

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Is there a canon reason why there weren't any BRs on Reach or on the PoA, No DMRs on PoA or the Battle of Earth or ARs?

lethal comet Sep 18, 2020, 4:52 AM

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DMR are more widespread in the army

jolly swift Sep 18, 2020, 4:53 AM

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I know the BR one!

lethal comet Sep 18, 2020, 4:53 AM

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In reach we fight alongside army troops instead of marines

jolly swift Sep 18, 2020, 4:53 AM

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in First Strike Blue Team is in a cave on Reach with Halsey and they come across a BR and literally none of them know what they're looking at

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yeah it honestly took me this long to realize that for most of the Halo games we're playing as part of the navy

lethal comet Sep 18, 2020, 4:53 AM

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BR existed

astral pivot Sep 18, 2020, 4:54 AM

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probably just has deal with people station the army defending reach might not had BR as there standard issue weapon

jolly swift Sep 18, 2020, 4:54 AM

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I have no answer on the AR one because we have ARs in ODST which takes place at the same time as Halo 2 and in the same city

cedar surge Sep 18, 2020, 4:54 AM

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@astral pivot what? Gremlins have EMP weapons

jolly swift Sep 18, 2020, 4:55 AM

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MC just couldn't find one lmao

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"fine, I'll take the SMG"

noble sedge Sep 18, 2020, 4:55 AM

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Have you ever wondered what is ussualy posted on in-universe waypoint?

jolly swift Sep 18, 2020, 4:56 AM

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John x Palmer rivals to lovers 100k fanfic

cedar surge Sep 18, 2020, 4:56 AM

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Anything

lethal comet Sep 18, 2020, 4:56 AM

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Waypoint is always monitored

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No privacy

astral pivot Sep 18, 2020, 4:57 AM

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Gremlins were only good on human vehicles and forerunner devices they were just not affective against covenant targets they were made to fight humans not space dinos

jolly swift Sep 18, 2020, 4:57 AM

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refresh me, is Waypoint just like the web or the predominant social media site?

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in universe that is

lethal comet Sep 18, 2020, 4:57 AM

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Maybe different planets have their own network in addition to the waypoint

astral pivot Sep 18, 2020, 4:57 AM

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its a website

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and used be a really good lore app

lethal comet Sep 18, 2020, 4:58 AM

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Like we have the internet now

jolly swift Sep 18, 2020, 4:58 AM

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Halo Facebook

lethal comet Sep 18, 2020, 4:58 AM

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in universe that is
Its basically the internet in the halo universe

noble sedge Sep 18, 2020, 4:58 AM

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Someone sells essential oils there?

lethal comet Sep 18, 2020, 4:59 AM

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Albeit one controlled by the unsc

noble sedge Sep 18, 2020, 4:59 AM

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Like now with our facebook?

lethal comet Sep 18, 2020, 4:59 AM

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Waypoint is special because it connects the colonies

jolly swift Sep 18, 2020, 4:59 AM

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Serin Osman sells essential oils on Waypoint

astral pivot Sep 18, 2020, 4:59 AM

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ha

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can i get my grunt masks on waypoint

jolly swift Sep 18, 2020, 5:00 AM

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Benjamin Gireau winds up on the Waypoint equivalent of r/insanepeoplefacebook

astral pivot Sep 18, 2020, 5:00 AM

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Oni still cant find that loon

noble sedge Sep 18, 2020, 5:00 AM

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How about remnants of 4chan?

jolly swift Sep 18, 2020, 5:01 AM

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the Flood

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the remnants of b.net's Off Topic forum were erased by the firing of the holy rings

astral pivot Sep 18, 2020, 5:02 AM

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what do space dinos use for social media

jolly swift Sep 18, 2020, 5:02 AM

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facewort

noble sedge Sep 18, 2020, 5:03 AM

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Selling sangheili MLMs?

astral pivot Sep 18, 2020, 5:03 AM

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dinofans

jolly swift Sep 18, 2020, 5:03 AM

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Waypoint Tinder

astral pivot Sep 18, 2020, 5:03 AM

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10 credits to see them open there madiables

jolly swift Sep 18, 2020, 5:03 AM

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or 3 req points

noble sedge Sep 18, 2020, 5:03 AM

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And someone sells Sangheili gamer bathwater

jolly swift Sep 18, 2020, 5:04 AM

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||I actually forget how Reqs work I haven't played 5 in like 3 years||

astral pivot Sep 18, 2020, 5:04 AM

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dont let 343 hear that that might be an easter egg

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Rtas would be twitch streamer

jolly swift Sep 18, 2020, 5:04 AM

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people buy the recycled waste water from Mjolnir armor

astral pivot Sep 18, 2020, 5:05 AM

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wait where how do spartans go to bathroom?

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do there suits do it for them and make it into shields?

jolly swift Sep 18, 2020, 5:05 AM

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it recycles the waste I think

astral pivot Sep 18, 2020, 5:06 AM

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how they just go in suit and the suit cleans it up?

jolly swift Sep 18, 2020, 5:06 AM

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p much

noble sedge Sep 18, 2020, 5:06 AM

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Fred said that recycled water tastes bland

jolly swift Sep 18, 2020, 5:06 AM

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the Master Chief wears adult diapers

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his adult diapers cost as much as a spaceship

astral pivot Sep 18, 2020, 5:06 AM

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Cortana change me

noble sedge Sep 18, 2020, 5:07 AM

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No Gods please no

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Go to Shlaaneshi jail

jolly swift Sep 18, 2020, 5:07 AM

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by the Emporer

astral pivot Sep 18, 2020, 5:07 AM

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dino jail no thank you

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they will do things to me

jolly swift Sep 18, 2020, 5:08 AM

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I'm not going back to jail

noble sedge Sep 18, 2020, 5:08 AM

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Moving on...

astral pivot Sep 18, 2020, 5:08 AM

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wait question do elites reproduce like lizards?

noble sedge Sep 18, 2020, 5:13 AM

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I want a spin-off game in a form of in-universe Halo MMORPG

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Y'know, an in-universe game that Humanity (and other species) enjoys to play

astral pivot Sep 18, 2020, 5:15 AM

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with new engine im sure they can do it

noble sedge Sep 18, 2020, 5:15 AM

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Imagine servers being bricked by Unggoy

astral pivot Sep 18, 2020, 5:16 AM

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that be great

craggy sierra Sep 18, 2020, 5:33 AM

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with new engine im sure they can do it
Noooooooooooo nonononononono that is not how MMO’s work. They typically have incredibly tailor made engines for them just do to the nature of how much crap the game had to juggle.

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Like, MMOs are just a nightmare to make and you need to go all or nothing on your backend support for them.

astral pivot Sep 18, 2020, 6:13 AM

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overwatch runs on the WoW engine but they are scarping it for overwatch 2 its possible it just depends on whats going if its MMO akin to destiny it can work well since they go most of the assets

lethal comet Sep 18, 2020, 6:33 AM

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We know grunt farmer exists in universe

versed helm Sep 18, 2020, 6:33 AM

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maybe using the destiny engine could help

astral pivot Sep 18, 2020, 6:38 AM

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destiny is rebuilding the engine in December, there engine is really bad on dev level. we just havent seen what slipscpace can do it yet

versed helm Sep 18, 2020, 6:40 AM

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that is true

lethal comet Sep 18, 2020, 8:06 AM

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We are finally free from Blam!

sleek star Sep 18, 2020, 8:08 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wu3NHaX-g_g&ab_channel=HaloFollower Halo Infinite’s story RED FLAGS - Why I'm scared for this "Spiritual Reboot" of Halo

versed helm Sep 18, 2020, 8:33 AM

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Oh god.

sleek star Sep 18, 2020, 8:36 AM

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XD @versed helm

versed helm Sep 18, 2020, 8:39 AM

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Yea yikes. No thanks fam. I already know it’s gonna flop. Been re reading halo first strike and gosh it’s such a good book. Really wish 343 would go in that direction

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idk. the story probably wont be all that bad.

sleek star Sep 18, 2020, 8:43 AM

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the story /campaign looks good tho @versed helm @versed helm imo

versed helm Sep 18, 2020, 9:07 AM

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Give me chief. Blue team. And arbiter. Kicking butts And saving galaxy. I’ll b happy.

carmine sleet Sep 18, 2020, 9:29 AM

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I have a feeling the "red flags" HaloFollower has are things that make zero sense as red flags

inner basin Sep 18, 2020, 10:57 AM

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I really want Infinite’s co-op characters to be plausible for canon. I just love having an in universe reason fro why multiple Spartans/characters that are alongside Chief for the whole game. We had it in H3, H4 SpOps, and H5. I really hope it continues

versed helm Sep 18, 2020, 11:55 AM

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Halo: The Fellowship of the Ring

hybrid crane Sep 18, 2020, 1:31 PM

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I really want Infinite’s co-op characters to be plausible for canon. I just love having an in universe reason fro why multiple Spartans/characters that are alongside Chief for the whole game. We had it in H3, H4 SpOps, and H5. I really hope it continues
@inner basin its better than having 2 identical master chiefs

inner basin Sep 18, 2020, 1:32 PM

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its better than having 2 identical master chiefs
*4 (4 player co-op has been a thing since H3)

humble yacht Sep 18, 2020, 1:33 PM

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it's probably going to be repeat chiefs

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considering that the Pilot and Chief are the only characters found at the start of the game, it would be weird to just introduce additional characters in that sequence

inner basin Sep 18, 2020, 1:35 PM

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It probably is, but one can hope for MP Spartan characters to appear at least

lethal comet Sep 18, 2020, 1:36 PM

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I like to imagine that the coop clone is 1337

inner basin Sep 18, 2020, 1:37 PM

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NO

lethal comet Sep 18, 2020, 1:38 PM

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1337's personality is pretty close to my actual coop partners

carmine sleet Sep 18, 2020, 1:41 PM

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1337 lives!

hybrid crane Sep 18, 2020, 1:48 PM

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i wanted to play using arbiter again

cedar surge Sep 18, 2020, 1:55 PM

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Granted

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You are able to play ripa the arbiter

cedar surge Sep 18, 2020, 2:46 PM

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Wish there was a book about the arbiters

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So the council for the elites were all killed right

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How did thel choose his new council then

carmine sleet Sep 18, 2020, 2:48 PM

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By finding new people to fill up the council

humble yacht Sep 18, 2020, 2:52 PM

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I don’t think they were all killed

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Some were imprisoned

cedar surge Sep 18, 2020, 2:58 PM

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If any were still on high charity during the schism they are probably not around anymore

inner basin Sep 18, 2020, 3:00 PM

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Some were imprisoned
Such as the ones we rescued (as Thel) in The Great Journey mission

cedar surge Sep 18, 2020, 3:01 PM

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We saved some?

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Was that in 2?

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I Remeber them being all dead

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Do you mean those elites with the hunters?

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How does the covenant deal with grunt overpopulation

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Like the jackals tried to sterilize them

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Which turned out very bad

stiff creek Sep 18, 2020, 3:22 PM

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Could eat them.

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Or just use them.

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For what they are bred to do, I mean.

cedar surge Sep 18, 2020, 3:51 PM

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So how mad would you think elites would be if the unsc used chemical weapons

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Can't fight against that

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Actually how good is covenant medicine

carmine sleet Sep 18, 2020, 3:52 PM

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You can fight against chemical weapons, it's just not in the conventional way since you can't shoot the chemical to get rid of it

stiff creek Sep 18, 2020, 3:53 PM

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Plasma might have a funky effect on it though.

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Since it is so dang hot.

lethal comet Sep 18, 2020, 3:54 PM

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Without huragok, the elites are pretty helpless

humble yacht Sep 18, 2020, 3:55 PM

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Lol, dumb dinos postums

stiff creek Sep 18, 2020, 3:55 PM

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Without helmets, Huragok are pretty cute.

carmine sleet Sep 18, 2020, 3:56 PM

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Huragoks are the cutest and must be hugged

lethal comet Sep 18, 2020, 3:56 PM

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Huragok plushie when 343

carmine sleet Sep 18, 2020, 3:57 PM

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I've seen some that fans have made on Twitter in the past, I believe one was sent to Sam

stiff creek Sep 18, 2020, 3:59 PM

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Made me think of Sam-034 with a plushie.

cedar surge Sep 18, 2020, 3:59 PM

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Engineers just get mistreated constantly

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By every faction

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Except for the unsc

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Well I don't know about ONI

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So are engineers the medics for the covenant?

stiff creek Sep 18, 2020, 4:04 PM

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Could be, but they are primarily just floaty tech dudes.

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They're good at fixing stuff, and they have some access to Forerunner junk.

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And they can deploy some shielding for nearby troops, as seen in the games.

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Speaking of, how does the Engineers special ability work in Halo Wars 2?

west silo Sep 18, 2020, 4:08 PM

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Well canonically they use there tentacles to repair vehicles

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Actually I just remembered they can also grant shields

carmine sleet Sep 18, 2020, 4:16 PM

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Speaking of, how does the Engineers special ability work in Halo Wars 2?
Allot of how things work within the gameplay of the Wars games does not line up with the actual canon

stiff creek Sep 18, 2020, 4:16 PM

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I kinda meant what does it do in-game, I see a shield, but it doesn't say the units within the shield receive a buff.

inner basin Sep 18, 2020, 4:17 PM

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Allot of how things work within the gameplay of the Wars games does not line up with the actual canon
Such as the Nightingales

lethal comet Sep 18, 2020, 4:18 PM

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or the mac

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Or the glassing beam

west silo Sep 18, 2020, 4:20 PM

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Well nightingales do heal we just don't know how

stiff creek Sep 18, 2020, 4:20 PM

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"nanomachines son"

west silo Sep 18, 2020, 4:20 PM

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Wouldn't be surprised

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The unsc do have medical nanomachines available for civilians

stiff creek Sep 18, 2020, 4:24 PM

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Smoke shell ability is OP

inner basin Sep 18, 2020, 4:28 PM

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Well nightingales do heal we just don't know how
I didn't say that. I was saying that how they work in Wars, isn't how they work in canon

cedar surge Sep 18, 2020, 4:30 PM

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Well there is a unsc unit with healing guns

stiff creek Sep 18, 2020, 4:31 PM

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Stanchion that fires health syringes pls

west silo Sep 18, 2020, 4:31 PM

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Those are non canon

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The above

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There equipment are canon but there but there ability to steal health nope

cedar surge Sep 18, 2020, 4:33 PM

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If the equipment don't heal

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Then what does it do

west silo Sep 18, 2020, 4:35 PM

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Kill better ? I don't know

hard epoch Sep 18, 2020, 4:37 PM

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guys

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dont be mad at me but in what order do the halos go

stiff creek Sep 18, 2020, 4:38 PM

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Wars 1, Reach, CE, 2, 3 ODST, 3, 4, 5, Wars 2.

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Then there's Spartan Strike and Spartan Assault, but eh.

hard epoch Sep 18, 2020, 4:39 PM

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ok thx thats good

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but its just so weird how reach has better graphics then halo ce

stiff creek Sep 18, 2020, 4:39 PM

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Well...

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Reach was released 9 years after CE, but it takes place before CE.

carmine sleet Sep 18, 2020, 4:40 PM

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That's what happens when you make a prequel to a game years after the original game released

hard epoch Sep 18, 2020, 4:40 PM

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oooooooo

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makes sense

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ok one more, whats the troy line, if it involes telling me who died just leave it out but what is the story line, i finished reach and im on ce

cedar surge Sep 18, 2020, 4:46 PM

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If we told you the storyline

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It would tale hours

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Recomend watching sametokens video on halo so far

gilded mason Sep 18, 2020, 4:47 PM

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The story:
A guy with three eyes tries his best but fails.

hard epoch Sep 18, 2020, 4:47 PM

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ok thx

west silo Sep 18, 2020, 4:48 PM

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Actually the story is
A green guy steals all his friends luck to use as his own

hard epoch Sep 18, 2020, 4:48 PM

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ooo

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hahaha

stiff creek Sep 18, 2020, 4:50 PM

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@gilded mason
That's a pretty effin good summary, like seriously.

gilded mason Sep 18, 2020, 4:50 PM

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Thank ya.

versed helm Sep 18, 2020, 4:55 PM

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what're the three eyes?

west silo Sep 18, 2020, 5:02 PM

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MB

versed helm Sep 18, 2020, 5:30 PM

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ohhh

dense pulsar Sep 18, 2020, 5:41 PM

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The story of the Halo games? Cyborg John Wick is sent to the planet, Reach to join Noble Team and literally within an hour of meeting them, the Covenant show up leading to a super duper big battle that destroys the planet and John Wick dies at the end but he helped Big Green and the PoA get away. PoA finds a big hula hoop or anti-son of beech machine but then the Covenant unleash the Zombie men so Big Green blows up the hula hoop. Then they go back to Earf but the Covenant show up and then leave cause they find another Hula Hoop but this time Big Green is ready so he kills one of their prophets and Arby has to go stop a heretic and then go get a super duper important key to turn on the hula hoop but then the Covenant is like "Nah. We don't like the dinomen anymore." so a civil war starts so then Big Green and Arby team up so Big Green goes to the super duper Covenant city to kill the last prophets but the zombiemen got one of them

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So he's like "Aight bet" and then he chases the last prophet to a ship thats heading towards Earf and Arby stops them from turning on the hula hoop. Big Green is like "sir, i'm baiting a sequel" and then 2 weeks later Halo 3 starts. At this point, Big Green's plot armor is too strong but its also the last game in the series so it could go anyway Bungie wants it to so he jumps off the ship and crash lands on Earf in Africa. Then they fight the Covenant on Earf but then the find the portal that takes them to the super duper hula hoop controller

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So they go to the hula hoop controller and stop the Covenant but the zombie men are the big threat now so Big Green and Arby come up with a plan to fire a hula hoop which they do but the 343 All-Spark gets mad cause the hula hoop isn't finished being built yet so he kills Mr.Iwhbyd and then Big Green kills 343 All-Spark then they activate the hula hoop

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The hula hoop blows up but arby and big green get away but everyone thinks big green is dead/mia and at the end he looks towards his Windows 10 assistant and says "wake me when the sequel is out"

cedar surge Sep 18, 2020, 6:01 PM

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You forgot the infamous nanomachines

stiff creek Sep 18, 2020, 6:16 PM

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som

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*son

versed helm Sep 18, 2020, 8:16 PM

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Who would win in a fight a Spartan or an ODST

humble yacht Sep 18, 2020, 8:16 PM

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spartan

hard epoch Sep 18, 2020, 8:17 PM

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spartan

maiden crescent Sep 18, 2020, 8:23 PM

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spartan

stiff creek Sep 18, 2020, 8:27 PM

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spartan

shadow wadi Sep 18, 2020, 8:51 PM

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i mean we cant say else there is a mutan like himan being vs an actual crappy soldier

cedar surge Sep 18, 2020, 9:00 PM

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Might as well have a vs between a guy with a shotgun vs a guy with a knife

west silo Sep 18, 2020, 9:03 PM

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What if the guy with the knife is raiden ?

dense pulsar Sep 18, 2020, 9:10 PM

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Clearly Raiden

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And its not that ODSTs are crappy

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Spartans are just super soliders

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Literally made to be the ultimate killing machines

rigid owl Sep 18, 2020, 9:11 PM

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indeed they are solid

dense pulsar Sep 18, 2020, 9:12 PM

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Now, from what I can understand there are SOME specialized jobs an ODST would be better at than a Spartan

stiff creek Sep 18, 2020, 9:12 PM

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Like sneakin'.

west silo Sep 18, 2020, 9:12 PM

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Blending in with a crowd

dense pulsar Sep 18, 2020, 9:13 PM

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Yea

humble yacht Sep 18, 2020, 9:35 PM

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Clearly Raiden
I am lightning, the rain transformed

stiff creek Sep 18, 2020, 9:39 PM

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May mean MGS Raiden.

humble yacht Sep 18, 2020, 9:40 PM

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That’s who I’m quoting

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Tsk tsk

stiff creek Sep 18, 2020, 10:04 PM

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Wh(

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Oh.

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Oh right.

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Fug

cedar surge Sep 18, 2020, 10:04 PM

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A odst can beat a spartan

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While behind bulletproof glass

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Inside of a bunker

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With a rocket launcher

maiden crescent Sep 18, 2020, 10:05 PM

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Good analysis doctor

inner basin Sep 18, 2020, 10:08 PM

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While behind bulletproof glass
How do they beat a Spartan behind bulletproof glass?

maiden crescent Sep 18, 2020, 10:09 PM

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Good question... with grenades?

inner basin Sep 18, 2020, 10:13 PM

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They're still behind bulletproof glass. The logic is kinda flawed. Yeah the Spartan doesn't beat the ODST, but the ODST doesn't beat the Spartan either

maiden crescent Sep 18, 2020, 10:13 PM

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How about if they make the grenades roll through the ground?

inner basin Sep 18, 2020, 10:16 PM

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How would that even work?

maiden crescent Sep 18, 2020, 10:16 PM

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Rolling?

inner basin Sep 18, 2020, 10:17 PM

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through the ground
Grenades don't normally roll through the ground

maiden crescent Sep 18, 2020, 10:19 PM

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Well, I meant above the ground

inner basin Sep 18, 2020, 10:20 PM

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But the bulletproof glass is still in the way

maiden crescent Sep 18, 2020, 10:20 PM

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Then they could lift it a little just so the grenade could pass

inner basin Sep 18, 2020, 10:21 PM

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If they could lift it, then the Spartan can lift it which immediately takes the point of it out of the equation

maiden crescent Sep 18, 2020, 10:21 PM

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...

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Are you a tactician?

inner basin Sep 18, 2020, 10:22 PM

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No, I'm being logical

maiden crescent Sep 18, 2020, 10:22 PM

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Hmmmm, logically

unique rune Sep 18, 2020, 10:27 PM

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Even with bullet-resistant glass, I'm pretty sure a Spartan wouldn't have much trouble punching through it...

maiden crescent Sep 18, 2020, 10:27 PM

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Probably, and who knows what kind of equipment he has

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Maybe a rocket launcher, considering what was given to Chief

west silo Sep 18, 2020, 10:46 PM

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Obviously a stanchion

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Wait a odst can beat a Spartan

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Just give him the suit from prototype

inner basin Sep 18, 2020, 11:00 PM

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A Spartan would likley still be able to pull that apart if they are armoured up

west silo Sep 18, 2020, 11:09 PM

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How ?

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The shield would keep them from the armor

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And the weapons would shred the Spartan

maiden crescent Sep 18, 2020, 11:17 PM

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Wow, this discussion has really lasted a long time

dense pulsar Sep 18, 2020, 11:26 PM

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Now, if the Spartan was unarmored and in just some bdus

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I could see the ODST having a chance

cedar surge Sep 18, 2020, 11:45 PM

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Ah yes

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The old "give one side every advantage then they could win" argument

cedar surge Sep 19, 2020, 12:03 AM

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so did the covenant use other weapons against humanity?

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they did have sterilization weapons

versed helm Sep 19, 2020, 12:04 AM

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yep

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nigrum

cedar surge Sep 19, 2020, 12:04 AM

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it would have been catostrophic if they used those on huamns

astral pivot Sep 19, 2020, 12:51 AM

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So why did the UNSC got to the ark when Truth couldn't use the ark without a Reclaimers touch? I know flood were on there way but couldn't the UNSC just stayed in Orbit above the Ark let high charity pass by and go close the portal?

wet dawn Sep 19, 2020, 12:53 AM

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#HereticElitesDidNothingWrong

cedar surge Sep 19, 2020, 12:59 AM

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well app

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would you leave probably the most important installation in the galaxy fall to the flood?

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who could just use other routes to use their new setinal army to infect the milky way?

west silo Sep 19, 2020, 1:33 AM

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Plus what if the covenant had brought a human as prisoner

last anchor Sep 19, 2020, 1:43 AM

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Only works if they have specific genes. Only Reclaimers can activate stuff. Not all humans are reclaimers.
Most Spartans seem to be though, theoretically the genetic marker Halsey was looking for.

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That being said they needed to kill Truth anyway to finish the war. They couldnt just LEAVE HIM there.

west silo Sep 19, 2020, 1:45 AM

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Well the humans in halo didn't know that yet

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As far as they knew every human had reclaimer genes

astral pivot Sep 19, 2020, 1:47 AM

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only one who genes were truly special was Chief since the Librarian speed up his evolutionary process making him immune to composer

west silo Sep 19, 2020, 1:47 AM

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Well that was around halo 4

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And that seems to have been swept under the rugg

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Unfortunately

craggy sierra Sep 19, 2020, 1:48 AM

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I'm pretty sure all humans could activate a ring

west silo Sep 19, 2020, 1:48 AM

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Nope

craggy sierra Sep 19, 2020, 1:48 AM

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Where's that stated?

west silo Sep 19, 2020, 1:48 AM

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Only the humans with reclaimer genes

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All humans are reclaimer not all of them has the geas though

astral pivot Sep 19, 2020, 1:49 AM

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Which include Ellen Anders, Chief, and Johnson since they activated rings

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and Miranda Keyes

west silo Sep 19, 2020, 1:49 AM

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Yep

craggy sierra Sep 19, 2020, 1:49 AM

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So conveniently everyone in the main cast

astral pivot Sep 19, 2020, 1:49 AM

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if your part of plot your a reclaimer

west silo Sep 19, 2020, 1:50 AM

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Well they are the main cast

craggy sierra Sep 19, 2020, 1:50 AM

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This is one of those things where I'm questioning why the universe goes out of its way to say that only humans can do it

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Because it just makes everything in retrospect seem really really convenient

west silo Sep 19, 2020, 1:50 AM

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Because the forerunners did it

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Thats the entire point of reclaimer

craggy sierra Sep 19, 2020, 1:51 AM

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I'm asking why the writers did

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Not the forerunners

west silo Sep 19, 2020, 1:51 AM

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Because they can

astral pivot Sep 19, 2020, 1:51 AM

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its just bungies writing they really didnt care much give detail on foreunners since they wanted create feeling of lost race feel 343 really expanded on the forerunners

west silo Sep 19, 2020, 1:52 AM

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It's like asking why elite history seems so similar to ours

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Because the writes wanted it to

craggy sierra Sep 19, 2020, 1:52 AM

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Yeah but I don't recall any writing anywhere specifying that the ring activation could only be done by a specific gene of humanity

astral pivot Sep 19, 2020, 1:53 AM

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humans can use any forerunners artifacts but reclaimers had certain genes

west silo Sep 19, 2020, 1:53 AM

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It's like having a special key

astral pivot Sep 19, 2020, 1:53 AM

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like Halsey on Requiem she was able to open the portal to librarian with ease while Dr Glassman had to hack into it

west silo Sep 19, 2020, 1:54 AM

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Yeah I think it was with Glassman

terse lava Sep 19, 2020, 1:57 AM

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Makes me wonder how good AH was with forerunner tech since they lacked that ability

fringe robin Sep 19, 2020, 1:59 AM

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yeah

west silo Sep 19, 2020, 1:59 AM

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Well AH were near equal to the forerunners

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Only lacking in slipspace manipulation, AI, numbers and probably ships

cedar surge Sep 19, 2020, 2:05 AM

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So bassically

terse lava Sep 19, 2020, 2:05 AM

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True

cedar surge Sep 19, 2020, 2:05 AM

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Most important things

terse lava Sep 19, 2020, 2:06 AM

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Well other races could pull it off too, given enough time. For example had they been left alone, I am pretty confident the Covenant could have activated halo without an index

astral pivot Sep 19, 2020, 2:07 AM

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they could of Dr Halsey and Anders can hack many forerunner devices to do thing without control of installations AI

west silo Sep 19, 2020, 2:08 AM

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Remember that time halsey hack a contender class AI

gilded mason Sep 19, 2020, 2:08 AM

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I try not to

west silo Sep 19, 2020, 2:08 AM

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With a hand held tablet

astral pivot Sep 19, 2020, 2:08 AM

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shes the smartest woman in the galaxy

west silo Sep 19, 2020, 2:09 AM

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I repeat a contender class AI

terse lava Sep 19, 2020, 2:09 AM

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I avoid thinking of that heresy

west silo Sep 19, 2020, 2:09 AM

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343 when he was dying was able to hack and kill a 5th gen Ai

terse lava Sep 19, 2020, 2:09 AM

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That's up there with physical plasma torpedos....and barns

west silo Sep 19, 2020, 2:09 AM

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Barns?

terse lava Sep 19, 2020, 2:09 AM

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Yes

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Barns

astral pivot Sep 19, 2020, 2:10 AM

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just remember Miranda is Halseys Daughter and she went go kill truth by crashing a pelican and dual wielding as shotgun and magnum

gilded mason Sep 19, 2020, 2:10 AM

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Uauagh