Anyway, where is hood after the created thing happened
#lore-and-universe
lethal comet
cedar surge
at a resort
humble yacht
something like that
cedar surge
chilling with high comm AI
lethal comet
Isn't infinity going to pick him up
humble yacht
it's effectively a safehouse
lethal comet
What if the created find the planet
humble yacht
but it's a whole planet
cedar surge
he can just chill there until the created blow over
plus the world he is on is not on any navigation map
lethal comet
So who's in charge then
cedar surge
no one really
lethal comet
ONI?
cedar surge
still kicking
humble yacht
everyone is probably following some sort of emergency protocol or standing order
cedar surge
wonder if the AI are going to get their own protocol
like terminate at the sight of treason
lethal comet
Can the unsc switch to all dumb AIs
cedar surge
i really hope there isnt a "and AI and humans started magically working together again with no problems"
no
lethal comet
since smart ai cant be trusted anymore
humble yacht
The UNSC already uses Dumb AI
humble yacht
Sloan is not part of the UNSC
cedar surge
superitendent?
humble yacht
not a governor
lethal comet
Are the superintendent AIs smart ai
cedar surge
scratch that then
but yea the unsc need smart Ai
but after this great betrayal there probably wont be cooparatin like this for a while
they rebelled and massacred people before,whats to stop them from doing it again kind of thinkng
sharp adder
A dump ai can still be deseded to hack or even have there codes changed to Learn in the halo movie where you see all the Spartan 2s as kids through training the ai you see teaching them is a dump ai so they aren't dump. Compared to humans there only dump compared to smart ai
timber valley
What lmao
cedar surge
dumb ais doesnt mean they are actually stupid
it means they can't do everything and grow
humble yacht
the term "dumb ai" is only to separate them from Smart AI
cedar surge
so they replaced the organs for IVs right?
what about giving new organs for earlier generations
humble yacht
the IIs and IIIs organs are already better
cedar surge
so multiple ships can go through one poral right?
why don't they have multiple ships go through a few portalss to save on power and time since ships going behind another ship in slipspace go faster
lethal comet
They all have the slipspace drive, that going faster thing only works when you go in the wake of a faster ship
humble yacht
Because for most ships, the size of the portal they make is relative to the size of the ship
So unless you’re a lot smaller than the ship that makes the portal, slipping in alongside is going to be hard
nimble crest
If a IV were to retire would they have to be replaced again
humble yacht
Also the individual portal closes once the generating ship is through
sharp adder
If spats reproduce with spatans chwnes that the kids might have the ugtions natural or be capable of traing to be a Spartan
cedar surge
what spartan would train their kids too become soldiers just cause they got the augs passed down
unique rune
It's also pretty unlikely that any effects from augmentation would get passed down in the first place
humble yacht
Any gene therapy or any augments that affected the germ line would result in changes to offspring
cedar surge
but convinetly they did
humble yacht
But not a 1:1 recreation of the same augs
sharp adder
Well think about suprr genes get passed down to kids so high Chances the kids would be stronger dadte smarter than other kids who's parents weren't spatlrtans
cedar surge
what?
sharp adder
Or they might join muliart or something and oni may knock on the door
cedar surge
just cause it gets passed down doesn't mean its stronger
its not going to be suddenly better after a single generation
sharp adder
I know but th6gemes will effect them
sharp adder
I know it would take 3-5 generations but it would happen
humble yacht
It’s not like the exact augmentations of the Spartan 1 parents got passed down
sharp adder
I know that it took a few gems but it happened
unique rune
Kids of two Spartan parents would maybe benefit slightly from their parents' "superior" baseline genetics
but I seriously doubt it'd have a very tangible effect
cedar surge
do we know any kids of spartan 1s
unique rune
cedar surge
While born ordinary, it is suspected that they are subjected to numerous augmentations at infancy.[1] Although they were not as advanced as the cybernetically- and surgically-enhanced Spartan-IIs or IIIs, or even their own chemically augmented parents, they were still physically superior to baseline humans.
sharp adder
I figured that some Spartan 2 would have been related or decend from some of the Spartans from the original orion progeam
cedar surge
see not as advanced
no every on of the 2s was a kidnapped kid who had the right genes
sharp adder
Es but what if some of them were grand or great grand children or Spartan 1s
humble yacht
they aren't
unique rune
I figured
I mean
there's the problem
there's no official info that suggests that the -IIs were descended from the -Is
You're bringing in a hypothetical that doesn't apply
sharp adder
Which could explain the gens az they would be similar to spatan 1s who have sleigh augmentation and gend stuff done to them
cedar surge
the final iteration of the projet was like a few years before the 2s
everyone from the original project died to the augs like a year after the project started
sharp adder
Johnson didn't
cedar surge
The troopers were reintegrated back into the active service; however, for reasons undisclosed by ONI, all five would die within the year, while key personnel on the ORION Project were transferred to colonization missions or terraforming research
thats because he was part of phase 2
sharp adder
Ok
cedar surge
all of phase one died
plus they were only kids of spatan 1s
these ids only got the augs passed down
while the originals got all the effects
lethal comet
Blob get auto correct
cedar surge
"This faction is a vigilante group of thirteen Spartan 1.1s who banded together on Earth to take the fight to the Covenant.[1] According to Kevin Morales, who later admitted to Janissary James that he was exaggerating slightly, they own a 100-meter yacht upgraded with everything an ONI spy ship would have" are these kids dumb
do they want to get blasted out of the sky by plasma
"I want to go deep into Covenant space. I want to do it for a purpose, and I want to do it without being under Section Three's thumb."
so does oni have any hidden bases in otherr factionns territory
humble yacht
i'm sure they have many hidden bases all over the galaxy
cedar surge
so can any faction just slipspace right to the capital?
carmine sleet
Capital of where?
cedar surge
because a lotof post war stuff just bypass fleets and colonies and go straight to the capital
of a faction
earth or sanghellios
like the prophet who was going to wipe al of sanghelios out with a prototype halo ring
or when covenant remnants fought the SoS at sanghellios
or that father who bought a covenant ship planning to glass earth
humble yacht
i imagine slipping out too close to a planet is dangerous unless you have some really good calculations
cedar surge
its only going to cause a explosion.so if you have shields your probably good
humble yacht
no i mean, you run the risk of running into the surface or a mountain or something
cedar surge
but my point is that these guys went straight to the capital and didnt have to stop at other planets
oh
well
plus is there really a need for "everything hangs in the balance" plots mutple times
humble yacht
?
carmine sleet
Slipspace travel allows you to cover long distances because slipspace is another dimension basically. There's no force that would suddenly pull you out of slipspace if you go near a planet
humble yacht
if you exit slipspace on a planet where you don't know the topology well, you might make the exit portal somewhere you shouldn't
carmine sleet
Like, I ain't going to be forced to stop at Reach if I'm travelling from Harvest to Earth
cedar surge
well its not like that happened before
plus i think ships can see outside slipspace
so not entirely blind
humble yacht
what gives you that impression?
cedar surge
the fact that large fleets dont smash into another when we see them so close to another
plus slipspace aint exact for humanity
humble yacht
they're able to communicate with each other
cedar surge
you could drop out hundreds of kilometers from where your going
carmine sleet
In space, that's a relatively small distance to drop out at
jolly swift
but planetside that can make the difference between a spaceport and the bottom of the ocean
humble yacht
^ true
versed helm
yep
jolly swift
I'm guessing that Slipspace works a lot like Hyperspace in Star Wars because doesn't every light speed method
humble yacht
lol imagine exiting slipspace in the middle of the pacific
jolly swift
so maybe gravity is an important factor
cedar surge
well there aremultiple dimensions
jolly swift
like you wanna exit not too close to a gravitational body
cedar surge
and if you slipspcae in atmosphere there is going to be a crater
versed helm
but unlike hyperspace, giant bodies cant randomly enter slipspace
cedar surge
with you evaporated
jolly swift
and some killer music to boot
versed helm
9, including the crystal induced one?
cedar surge
and phenominoms
jolly swift
oh boy I'm way out of my depth on this aspect
cedar surge
like how slipspace will just randomly kidnap someone
versed helm
and drop stuff out anywhere
heck, the covies had a better understanding of it
they could do pin-pointed jumps
lethal comet
The maginot line exists
cedar surge
hm?
jolly swift
I should really read up on slipspace
humble yacht
The Maginot Line was an established perimeter that designated the central area of the Forerunner empire
versed helm
slipspace is probably the only dimension that can be used as a weapon
humble yacht
Kat figured out how to do it
cedar surge
you would have to fly down into atmosphere while being shot at to use the explosion of opening slipspac
lethal comet
The line installation shot down ships in slipspace
cedar surge
if a ship got sent into the bottom of the ocean by slipspace you thik it could get out?
echo nebula
Assuming it did not immediately flood or get crushed, yes
cedar surge
like trying to open another portal
so what happens when you open slipspace under water
lethal comet
Could ships even survive that
jolly swift
it'd probably take all the water with it in its pocket of normal space
creating a big void of water like that would be... interesting
echo nebula
It would be a good way to lower the oceans levels
jolly swift
not to mention the fact that there would now be fish in the slipstream
let's just take the ocean and push it somewhere else!
jolly swift
gosh I'm getting back into Halo lore for the first time since before HW2 came out and I forgot how much I forgot
lethal comet
Everything will be sucked in
jolly swift
so uh
this has been bugging me since forever
why does Guilty Spark talk to Chief like he's Born Stellar?
echo nebula
Did you see the terminals? He kept blinking red. He may have been alone for so long, he was starting to go rampant. At least a little bit
Nearly every single other Monitor of the rest of the installations had stopped reporting in. They may have gone rampant themselves
jolly swift
I saw the terminals on Halo, Truth and Reconciliation, Silent Cartographer, and Keyes
I mean yeah he definitely seems like he's going Rampant, but I just can't shake the idea that there's more that's missing
humble yacht
i think it's metaphorical, nothing more
echo nebula
It is possible that some leftover gais of Forthencho may reside somewhere inside MC, but no way part of Bornsteller would
Try to remember, some parts of Halo CE lore simply do not make sense. They had NO way of knowing Halo would take off like it did
jolly swift
true
CE and Reach have the biggest lore inconsistencies I think
maybe 5 but I'm rusty
echo nebula
Like SGM Johnson, literally in hand to hand combat less than 30 seconds from the Autumns detonation. Somehow ended up onboard a Pelican dropship with a bunch of Marines and an Oni officcer
jolly swift
because he's Johnson
versed helm
What do glassing beams do I know they destroy things but like what do they do
echo nebula
MF Johnson
versed helm
So the death star but less powerful
jolly swift
honestly yeah
kinda like when they fire it only one core at a time in Rogue One
but instead of one quick blast it's a continuous stream as the ships go along
versed helm
Did noble 6 survive the glassing beams
modest bobcat
And also with a ton more ships
humble yacht
easter eggs obviously aren't canon
modest bobcat
I don’t think we’ll ever see Noble Six again
jolly swift
probably not but Six's fate is technically ambiguous
modest bobcat
And because of New Blood we’ll never see Rookie again and I’m triple pissed deluxe
jolly swift
Rookie deserved better
modest bobcat
I’m not even mad he’s dead - Six being dead is fine to me
I’m mad he’s dead in a book
Rookie deserved a better death
A death that served to further Buck’s character development from Nathan Fillion to Sad Spartan Nathan Fillion
Like... lol okay
jolly swift
Six ends up in the cave where Halsey and Blue Team are playing 20 Questions
modest bobcat
Don’t get me wrong - I like Nathan Fillion. But he can only play Nathan Fillion
jolly swift
so would Miranda and Chief be kinda like half siblings?
modest bobcat
Adopted siblings?
modest bobcat
Miranda is adopted big sister to the entire Spartan program
humble yacht
except that halsey never really acted like a mom to miranda
jolly swift
since all the Spartans probably have the emotional maturity of children
echo nebula
I wonder if Miranda harbored any ill feelings towards MC because Halsey spent more time and effort on the Spartans than on her
jolly swift
I miss Jorge
modest bobcat
Man I really hope we get to see Locke in like, a better story
I think he’s a genuinely interesting character
jolly swift
how/in what did Daisy die again?
humble yacht
Legends
modest bobcat
I was just watching Legends last night
jolly swift
The Package
modest bobcat
I remembered I had a copy and the Xbox could play it
jolly swift
was so good
jolly swift
I'm a big fan of the hallway scene in the Package myself
echo nebula
Later career and death
At some point during the Human-Covenant War, Daisy participated in a battle on a war-torn planet where she assisted several Marines pinned down by Covenant fire. She then assisted the Marines in getting to the evac point, where she met up with Ralph-103, a Spartan who had escaped with her in 2525, now as a serving Marine after his dismissal from the program As their evac Pelican landed however, Daisy was impaled by Needler rounds. Ralph, who was now aboard the Pelican with the Marines, tried to help Daisy, but she told him to go. Daisy used her pistol to fire on a Covenant Sangheili, but the Pelican was destroyed by Fuel Rod Gun fire, killing all aboard. Daisy, wounded and helpless, died where she lay, unable to move. Her body was later found by John-117, who laid Daisy's teddy bear chain in her hands and closed her eyes.
cedar surge
oh boy
modest bobcat
That’s Cal.
cedar surge
thats just sad
modest bobcat
I think that’s her name.
jolly swift
the Spartan 2's were all Chief's family
modest bobcat
Cal-141, yeah.
jolly swift
and he's lost so many of them
modest bobcat
I love how Cal was the best sniper the Spartans has despite her huge hair
jolly swift
but was Cal better than Linda?
echo nebula
Yea, I thought Linda was the best sniper
modest bobcat
Okay, best minus Blue Team Who’s The Best At All Their Respective Things
Like Fred and his... knife tricks.
jolly swift
Blue Team are the anime protagonists
modest bobcat
Man, Package is good but god I look at Arthur and
That chin.
Mr. Jim Carrey The Mask Spartan over here.
humble yacht
bruh, The Mask is some of Carrey's best work
modest bobcat
Well sure
That doesn’t make The Mask or Arthur look any less ridiculous
Arthur’s chin could be used as effectively as a gravity hammer with a proper headbutt
jolly swift
more like an energy sword
modest bobcat
Also, I love how often the canon shorts in Legends use ‘this thing is huge’ for no real reason other than it looks cool.
Like the Mega Mgalekgolo that Han slays, or the impossibly large Wraith in Prototype.
echo nebula
Great, now I want to watch Legends
carmine sleet
but was Cal better than Linda?
Linda is the best sniper of the S-IIs, it's more than likely Blue Team was busy on a different mission and Cal was selected for the op
modest bobcat
If you say a Spartan is best at anything it has to come with a legal disclaimer that Blue Team is better.
jolly swift
"Arthur was the best pie eater in the corps"
- Chief is better
modest bobcat
Jorge is the best unicyclist
*Kelly is better
carmine sleet
Kelly would likely be the fastest on a unicycle as well
echo nebula
Actually, believe it or not, John was the better unicyclist
Kelly was faster, but John was more precise
cedar surge
but who is the best pilot
jolly swift
Foehammer
modest bobcat
Noble Six. RIP 😔
echo nebula
Fred
modest bobcat
I like to think Fred is best at everything that isn’t specified by the rest of Blue Team because he’s so unspecified
cedar surge
corpses don't count
modest bobcat
Like how John isn’t really the best at anything besides being exceedingly lucky.
echo nebula
I think it is halarious that even though Fred outranks John, he follows his lead
cedar surge
code word for plot armor
carmine sleet
Fred's the second best sniper if I recall correctly
Obviously though, he's not in the same league as Linda
modest bobcat
Wait, does Fred outrank John?
jolly swift
my theory for why John is so "lucky" is because when he's not, he dies and we load a checkpoint
modest bobcat
Honestly Spartans having actual ranks in general is very funny to me.
modest bobcat
Because they generally just outrank everyone in like a 50km vicinity by virtue of being a Spartan
Everyone sans like, the Keyes dynasty
And Lord Hood
echo nebula
Even Spartans need a hierarchy
nimble crest
Did all of the odsts in alpha 9 have a specific role
modest bobcat
Rookie had the specific role of ‘Best Boy’.
jolly swift
Chief asks for permission because he's polite
modest bobcat
But to actually answer your question, yeah I think so?
nimble crest
What was Dutch’s if so
modest bobcat
Man, there’s someone I’m forgetting
cedar surge
explosive expert?
humble yacht
Mickey
echo nebula
Dare was their new boss
humble yacht
^ yep. she was ONI
modest bobcat
She was only their boss for that mission
Alpha-Nine was a squad the way Noble was. Dare was their Colonel Holland.
carmine sleet
explosive expert?
Mickey was explosives, Dutch was CQC according to Halopedia
modest bobcat
Honestly I don’t know that Mickey and Dutch had really distinct roles in the game.
I can barely remember Mickey’s mission.
cedar surge
is being close quaters with the covenant a good idea
modest bobcat
Ah. Right.
modest bobcat
Dutch had the Warthog level, Romeo sniped alongside Buck.
Rookie did cool detective stuff.
inner basin
What was Dutch’s if so
I’m gonna assume Dutch is the heavy weapon specialist because he always had a Spartan Laser
sharp adder
The flying warthog
modest bobcat
Buck Nathan Fillion’d his way through it all.
sharp adder
Buck and Dare happily get back together
carmine sleet
I’m gonna assume Dutch is the heavy weapon specialist because he always had a Spartan Laser
Beast, I literally already answered it a few seconds ago
Mickey was explosives, Dutch was CQC according to Halopedia
modest bobcat
They kiss in front of the kids who share a look.
echo nebula
Mickey was the pilot
inner basin
A Splaser isn’t really a good CQC weapon if you ask me
modest bobcat
Dare kissed Buck while he was covered in Bug Guts.
cedar surge
yea it would
nimble crest
That’s love
cedar surge
if anyone gets close use the heat of the laser or beat them with the weapon
sharp adder
Dare kissed Buck while he was covered in Bug Guts.
@modest bobcat
In halo strandns that is more romantic than a sunset
modest bobcat
Yanme’e guts have to really stink
cedar surge
also buck and dare got married
sharp adder
I know
inner basin
if anyone gets close use the heat of the laser or beat them with the weapon
That isn’t going to change my mind
nimble crest
Shotgun would’ve been better
modest bobcat
The Splaser is definitely not an anti-personnel weapon
Unless you’re trying to assassinate a guy from [REDACTED] meters.
humble yacht
splaser would be a terrible assassination weapon
modest bobcat
I’d say the Splaser also being 45 pounds loaded makes it not the best CQC weapon
humble yacht
that targeting beam would give it away every time
modest bobcat
@humble yacht Not according to Bungie
sharp adder
Nah the flame thrower is perfectly cqc weapon
nimble crest
It’s anti personnel on legendary with tilt on
sharp adder
Like with the rocket launcher
modest bobcat
One of the ‘UNSC Remarks’ on Halo.Bungie has a Marine talk about assassinating a key Brute target from an undisclosed distance
sharp adder
No sniper in cqc
nimble crest
Stanchion in infinite? Imagine
sharp adder
No Dubbo in infinite
modest bobcat
I’d love a Gauss Sniper in Infinite.
nimble crest
“What the heck am I gonna do with this inside a covenant ship”- Romeo, minutes before drop
sharp adder
Use it as axclub
modest bobcat
Romeo clearly never played Truth and Rec.
inner basin
Turned out that the Sniper Rifle saved his life
nimble crest
Yep
modest bobcat
Covenant ships are just long corridors.
sharp adder
Yeah it's useful agast hunters
nimble crest
Pretty defensive against hammers
inner basin
Well it’s not the most effective defence against the blade side of the hammer as it still punctured his lungs
sharp adder
Brute vs kylo ren both in ultimate temper tantrum contest
nimble crest
If he didn’t have it it would’ve completely damaged his insides
modest bobcat
A poor brace is better than no brace, I suppose
inner basin
If he didn’t have it it would’ve completely damaged his insides
Nah, he’d be dead if he didn’t have it, also can we talk about how the second swing literally almost killed him
nimble crest
Yes
modest bobcat
Man, I really hope we can customize Rook when the ODST season comes out.
modest bobcat
I know it was literally just like a single stripe of color, but still.
It was nice.
nimble crest
And the armor customization of 360
inner basin
Nah, I’d prefer it I was just our FF ODST we can customise
cedar surge
i would like to see him try to block a enegy hammer
nimble crest
Come again?
sharp adder
squads of minor brutes led by a veteran special forces grunt is what a i want to see
modest bobcat
I don’t know if the ODST customization carried over to Campaign. I think the color you could put on Rookie was just Firefight.
inner basin
It was
nimble crest
No, I remember it. I think.
cedar surge
so the odst gun
nimble crest
Hm?
cedar surge
smg
cedar surge
did t get bigger from two to odst?
inner basin
I don’t think so
nimble crest
A lot of the gun sizes are inconsistent
modest bobcat
No, it just went from Chief’s hands to Rookie’s.
inner basin
I mean maybe the suppressor on the end of the one in ODST adds length
modest bobcat
That too.
nimble crest
The sniper rifle in reach drastically changes because it looks like a .22 in the hands of a marine
modest bobcat
Man, Marines are ludicrously strong.
nimble crest
But a “wyrwafd” in the hands of a spartan
modest bobcat
They fire these Anti-Materiel Rifles that weigh some 35~ lbs.
Standing up.
No brace.
nimble crest
Romeo did
modest bobcat
Not even an inch of recoil.
nimble crest
In rapid succession
modest bobcat
I think informing people of canon weapon weights is fun.
The Beam Rifle is 40 pounds.
cedar surge
but unsc tech made it barely have recoil
nimble crest
Fr the models of the sniper rifle looks different in the hands of a marine
cedar surge
can rookie use the gravity hammer in odst?
nimble crest
Yes
cedar surge
he is strong
modest bobcat
There are no useable Gravity Hammers in ODST proper but probably in Firefight?
Similarly, no battle rifles or energy swords.
nimble crest
But ingame weight Is usually inconsistent
modest bobcat
Energy Swords are flashlights and thus a mere five pounds.
nimble crest
Why wasn’t the br in ODST? So weird
modest bobcat
Because it’d make things less tense maybe? Dunno.
nimble crest
The cop had it on skyline in the last cutscene
unique rune
Pretty sure it was because Bungie wanted to encourage people to use the M7S and M6C/SOCOM
modest bobcat
I can’t wait for the M7S and M6C in H3 MP.
nimble crest
Please
modest bobcat
And the actual Brute Plasma Rifle.
nimble crest
I think it’s coming out on 22nd
cedar surge
how do the odsts take the landing of their drop pods
cedar surge
like their legs must kinda hurt
modest bobcat
Drop Pod fatalities are pretty high if I remember right.
humble yacht
probably not
modest bobcat
They’re very unsafe.
cedar surge
cherry thats only 30 percent
humble yacht
drop pods appear to have lots of shock absorption. also they have seats
nimble crest
They’re perfectly safe man-cans
modest bobcat
That’s still 3 out of 10 guys, not negligible.
nimble crest
And the parachute thingy to break the initial impact
If ODST comes out on my birthday I’ll cry
nimble crest
And infinite is prolly having odsts
modest bobcat
I’m excited for the ODST season to drop because I have 50 points saved up from this season.
nimble crest
You could see the symbol in the trailer on a ship
modest bobcat
I’ll just buy the whole season out immediately.
lethal comet
Consider how much it costs to train and equip 30 odsts
modest bobcat
Yeah, ODSTs are, beyond just being you know, people, very expensive also.
Seeing as they’re the best forces Humanity has to offer without genetic augmentation.
humble yacht
drop pod deaths are due to equipment failure. so long as everything works, the drop is safe
humble yacht
i mean, what's the rate of parachute failure in modern day?
high enough that all parachute bags come with a backup
cedar surge
you made me remeber a bad arguement
cedar surge
where somebody said that odsts are trash because they get shot down
modest bobcat
As opposed to 3 in 10.
humble yacht
¯_(ツ)_/¯
cedar surge
and are not trained from birth
humble yacht
it's a fictional job designed to sound dangerous
modest bobcat
Are we not in the lore channel to discuss the fiction?
humble yacht
high death rate is there to emphasize how dangerous being an ODST is
modest bobcat
Just being in the UNSC is dangerous.
At least two Pelicans shot down per game.
Actually, except Reach.
The Pelican doesn’t play much of a role in Reach.
All about the Falcon.
fringe robin
carter 💥
modest bobcat
I think Carter is the single Pelican casualty of the entire game.
humble yacht
the Pelican that transported the slipspace bomb
fringe robin
^
modest bobcat
Oops.
Said a cuss.
But, right, okay. Yeah.
Reach has its mandated ‘at least two’.
CE has three total? I think.
nimble crest
3 has like 5
nimble crest
Fr
modest bobcat
2 has a bunch as well.
fringe robin
you forgot AotCR
humble yacht
The Pelican Chief leaves on Requiem eventually gets destroyed
modest bobcat
RIP to that Pelican that Lasky so lovingly put together for Chief.
versed helm
Would it make sense if ONI used Forerunner tech before the rest of the UNSC learned about the Forerunners?
modest bobcat
There’s also those two Pelicans who got way too cocky and got obliterated by the Requiem Defense Lancer.
humble yacht
yep
modest bobcat
And the other one that got clipped but still went down.
So 4 has... at least 4!
@versed helm Yeah for sure. They have their fingers in all sorts of Forerunner pies across known UNSC space.
Now, whether they have? I can’t say for sure
But it would make sense.
fringe robin
Reach has 3, the one after you give Cortana to keyes
modest bobcat
Let’s up that to ‘at least 3’.
2 has the two that get shot by the Scarab, every Pelican that was possibly on In Amber Clad...
I’m racking my brain for any other ones, I just played through 2 last night for the Terminals.
Oh, the one on the beach in Outskirts, but that could still be one from the cutscene.
fringe robin
flood pelican crash on high charity
versed helm
What about 5?
modest bobcat
I counted the Flood Pelican as one of them from In Amber Clad.
fringe robin
ah
modest bobcat
I think Tsavo Highway has one somewhere but I might also be thinking of a crashed Phantom instead.
versed helm
Wasn't there a Pelican that was stranded on Genesis?
fringe robin
the one that was shot down in the Ark Cutscene
modest bobcat
Yep!
plain oak
RIP FoeHammer. 😦
modest bobcat
Ark Cutscene, Covenant, the one stranded on High Charity and then lost on Installation 08.
Several lost in Sierra 117
Man, Cortana is not a good level.
But Arbiter showing up at the end with a Flamethrower makes it all worth it.
plain oak
Its either Great or Horrible, depending on how you look at it.
versed helm
Wasn't there one that crashed on Requiem when the UNSC Infinity first crash landed there?
plain oak
I STILL get turned around in flodo infected HIgh Charity.
versed helm
In all honesty,i would so work for ONI if i was in the Halo universe
modest bobcat
I’d work alongside Chips Dubbo. Nothing bad ever happens for be Dubbos.
plain oak
I would do Laundy for Kilo Five and be a happy camper.
versed helm
So how is ONI handling the Created crisis?,other than Osman bumming it out with Hood,Black Box,and that Spartan on Rossbach's World
modest bobcat
ONI is handling the Created crisis the same way everyone else is.
Ignoring it for the Banished.
humble yacht
nothing bad happens to Chips, just to the people around Chips
modest bobcat
When’s the Chips spinoff game?
The Chips spinoff game is the first VR Halo game. It’s mostly just you standing there with a gun until Master Chief comes up and gives you a new gun.
You now have to figure out how to use this new gun.
cedar surge
purgatory
modest bobcat
I wonder what a Halo VR game could be like.
humble yacht
it'd be like Halo Recruit
modest bobcat
Time to google that.
Oh, it’s not a game.
Not really anyway.
It’s like every other VR shooting range.
Just with Halo.
plain oak
I would be down for a REAL VR Halo title... 100%
versed helm
that would be dope
modest bobcat
Microsoft is rich as all get out.
Real VR title for Halo with foot and hand tracking so I can fully highjack a Wraith in VR please.
winter trail
That sound expensive
modest bobcat
Microsoft is rich as all get out.
Yes
But it can’t be that expensive, to be prohibitive to even Microsoft, I mean. BoneWorks has hand and feet tracking.
plain oak
Most systems will track multiple sensers, the cost is the burden of the VR Consumer.
However, with excellent attention to lighting and good direction of the AI, the flood will be SERIUOSLY hard to deal with in good VR! LOL
Were kinda drifting out of Lore into Gear though...
cedar surge
doesn't every halo game have to be made for xbox consoles
i dont think there is a halo game not made for or on xbox
modest bobcat
@plain oak Haha, you’re right, my mistake
humble yacht
Fireteam raven
plain oak
Id say by FAR the best books for me were the Kilo Five stuff... Follow that with Greg Bears take on the Pre-curser/Forerunner universe...
modest bobcat
Kilo-Five is Karen Traviss right?
Haven’t read any of her stuff.
Got halfway through the Forerunner trilogy.
I don’t think I enjoy book series so much as I enjoy the episodic format of the older books.
winter trail
I haven’t read any of the novels I really want to are they worth the read?
gilded mason
I haven’t read any of the novels I really want to are they worth the read?```
A lot of them are pretty good, yeah.Kilo-Five is Karen Traviss right?
Haven’t read any of her stuff.```
Should probably keep it that way. (Except for Human Weakness in Evolutions. That was nice.)or don't. Dex really likes the Kilo 5 trilogy
can't take any one person's opinion on its own
plain oak
I really like K5 too, but YMMV.
THe ealier books read like popcorn sillyness to me.
But they are genuine.
They arent what I would call literature until Greg Bear gets involved.
versed helm
Then there's Broken Circle
gilded mason
One of the best Halo books. 👌
plain oak
oooooo going to read this! TY!
humble yacht
One of the best Halo books. 👌
Typical hingehead response
gilded mason
Squidhead, brainiac.
versed helm
Will we ever return to Heian?
humble yacht
Hinge head is also used to refer to elites
3 citations, in fact
squid head has 0 citations
plain oak
I think we could also discuss the Huragok at length. They get my vote for coolest characters in the universe. Id like to know more of their lore.
gilded mason
Must've been an in-game marine term.
Ah, I was right, Johnson refers to them as squidheads in CE.
cedar surge
rude
gilded mason
It's a cute term
stiff creek
Myeh.
cedar surge
so were the innies more of a threat before or after the war
versed helm
before, in my opinion.
nimble crest
Is shadow of intent worth getting
cedar surge
thats the one where prophets are on the run from rtas
gilded mason
@nimble crest
It’s fully included in Fractures, as an FYI
cedar surge
sanghelli bounty hunter part of a warrior clan
modest bobcat
THe ealier books read like popcorn sillyness to me.
@plain oak
Halo is Popcorn Sillyness.
cedar surge
aint that a nickname for the library
modest bobcat
You can't play a game where a guy can rip a turret off its hinges and carry it around like he's in Predator and think, "This is high art."
I'd say 343 Guilty Spark.
That opening tidal wave of Infection Forms is good fun.
plain oak
Halo is Popcorn Sillyness.
@modest bobcat I was talking about the books specifically, not gaming experience.
modest bobcat
Yeah, I was saying those books fit.
plain oak
A deeper universe lends itself ot more interesting game play.
modest bobcat
Eh.
plain oak
for me anyway, YMMV.
modest bobcat
Halo 5 has really fast TTK. I wouldn't call it more interesting.
nimble crest
The ODST trailer thingy came out
modest bobcat
Ooh.
cedar surge
that specific part of the odst soundtrack always feels good
modest bobcat
Deference for Darkness is a masterwork track.
plain oak
Yeah, I was saying those books fit.
@modest bobcat Fair enough. What makes the universe STAY interesting for me was the expansion of the lore. The fun popcorn factor definitely drew me in years ago.
modest bobcat
I mean, those books weren't without interesting new concepts.
Halsey was a book invention, wasn't she?
Reach was just a throwaway line in CE.
modest bobcat
Halsey didn't come about til the books, right? Am I misremembering?
humble yacht
but technically, so was Chief's
humble yacht
Fall of Reach novel came out before Halo CE
modest bobcat
Really?????
humble yacht
yes
modest bobcat
That's crazy.
gilded mason
Yes
modest bobcat
I didn't know that.
humble yacht
Now you know. And knowing is half the battle.
plain oak
GI JOOOOOHHNNNN 117
modest bobcat
Oh yeah, by half a month.
That's really wild.
I was always under the impression The Flood was the first tie in novel.
humble yacht
nope
plain oak
Man the filters are aggressive on this chat.
I had no idea the book predated the game.
I envy whomever read it before playing OG Halo.
modest bobcat
Back when the only lore that was to be had was Fall of Reach and dubious multiplayer map descriptions.
plain oak
Thank God for blood gultch....
plain oak
OH yeah, that weird teleporter mess map
I seem to remember some battle box stuff from H3 multiplayer too.,.. but I tended to stay in the campaign mode.
inner basin
I’d honestly love for 343 to include a Spartan-III donning black Mk. V armour as an Easter Egg in Infinite. It’s just one of the mysteries in Reach to this day
modest bobcat
I think it's hysterical that Bungie never let us use Black after CE.
plain oak
I think it's hysterical that Bungie never let us use Black after CE.
@modest bobcat Reason for this?
modest bobcat
"For visibility", my butt.
You can see a Spartan real easy, and I don't think there's ever been a super dark multiplayer level.
Plus, the Visor gives them away, if not some other bright detailing.
cedar surge
In 4 and 5 they shine like diamonds the Spartans
inner basin
I’d just even love for 343 to canonise this Spartan, but have him in a canonical position
inner basin
No
karmic hemlock
I'm in the middle of doing research on the halo universe as a whole, and I've gotten a fairly decent understanding of the primary events. One thing I'm having trouble with tho is finding relevant data on the books and comics, that being there's too flippin many of them. Are there any videos that cover these events?
nimble crest
The black in reach is ok
inner basin
@karmic hemlock Halopedia has timelines of all the battles and events that took place as early as the Human-Forerunner war
west silo
Halo canon is good
karmic hemlock
There's also something else, it has to do with reach. I'm aware that Cortana split herself off, but can't find for the life of me what exactly she was analyzing that was so important
plain oak
Doesn't reach lead them to the cradle in one of the books wiht the Junior Spartan club?
west silo
Not the cradle just an anchor
inner basin
She was with Halsey gathering data from the Forerunner ship in Halo Reach. When she was brought to Keyes and put into the Pillar of Autumn console (and obviously being whole again) she used data gathered from the Forerunner ship below Sword Base and glyphs from a Forerunner artifact on Sigma Octanus IV to generate the co-ordinates for Alpha Halo (Installation-04)
plain oak
Ahman, 04. CHakkas is such a tool man...
karmic hemlock
Only discrepancy with that is that she was already on the Autumn and all B-312 was ferrying was an emotionless copy, but that makes sense
west silo
The real disprancy is that the game stretches a event that takes a day over the course of months
karmic hemlock
This is true
west silo
And the explanation makes everyone stupid
cedar surge
@west silo well you see
inner basin
Blame Bungie for that one. 343 tried their best to make them fit, and they done a decent job considering the task
cedar surge
The covenant was on reach months before that day
karmic hemlock
And give the impression that chief and Cortana have known each other for years, when from the time Keyes introduces them, by the end of halo 4 they have only known each other for a little over a month
cedar surge
And no one noticed the unsc and covenant having massive battles because they were too busy
karmic hemlock
And the games never touch on the time disparities, but a lot of events happen weeks or months apart
west silo
Oh I don't blame 343 if I was in there shoes of probably make something worse
karmic hemlock
For instance, reach and CE happen almost a month apart
west silo
The fact that no one found it suspicious that all there ships were moved to other side of the planet
inner basin
I remember there was this website created petitioning that Halo: Reach (the game) isn’t canon. I still don’t understand Bungie’s philosophy for the lore. They just made it unnecessarily awkward
west silo
The game is great its just that it feels like they tried to kill all sense of lore consistanty in it just to spite lore nerds like us
karmic hemlock
"Dead"
west silo
Got killed on reach
karmic hemlock
She got better
inner basin
She’s the best Sniper in the UNSC. She even went as far to forge her own Sniper
gilded mason
She even went as far to forge her own Sniper
Hm?
gilded mason
In fact, it's implied she stole it from Misr- yeah
gilded mason
No, she didn't. We just went over that lol
cedar surge
I wonder if we going to meet other Spartans who carves stuff onto their visrs like emille
inner basin
Wait, she didn’t? What was it then? She made modifications to it or something
humble yacht
at most she modified Nornfang so the radar would always be up
gilded mason
She "hand-tuned" it
versed helm
"Just some modifications ma-"
karmic hemlock
Yeah, during the reach campaign, blue team was sent to destroy the unsc navigation data. On the way out she got shot in the back, three more in the chest, and a final one in the head. She had to get her face replaced, which in why she has the different visor.
It's not an aesthetic choice, those are her flippin eyes
west silo
Oh
inner basin
I assume the "joke" is based on her helmet from Halo 5 and the various attachments it has
cedar surge
Just to spite the covenant,she got 4 scopes
west silo
Man it's crazy that Linda turn all her class mates into spies at the age of 6
karmic hemlock
Her eyes were injured at any rate
west silo
Fall of reach
cedar surge
How do you turn classmates into spies
west silo
To get better grades
karmic hemlock
Forget which video covered that comic
inner basin
How do you turn classmates into spies
Easy, you tell them "turn into spies"
west silo
Lone wolf
karmic hemlock
Ah, found it!
https://youtu.be/Fb-ppUn3fkw
Trying to write a story. Not too serious, but want to get my facts right
gilded mason
HaloFollower
karmic hemlock
?
gilded mason
He's not exactly a good source of information
karmic hemlock
Is anyone?
inner basin
He's not exactly a good source of information
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
gilded mason
Halo Canon is fairly good, for the most part.
inner basin
HiddenXperia is sound if you like Halo speculation, but keep in mind most of his videos are speculation
But for highly accurate canon (for the most part), HaloCanon is a good shout
He also adds in if he is speculating or hazarding a guess too so there is no confusion
humble yacht
just read halopedia
inner basin
Yeah, Halopedia is a good source, but why not do both? I read Halopedia a lot but I also watch YT videos on Halo lore and speculation
karmic hemlock
I do plan to do both. I just like videos for a quick reference
And I've been watching xperia for a long time now, he's awesome
humble yacht
i prefer halopedia because it's a resource that's not tied to a particular person
so nobody gets idolized
west silo
Halopedia has gotten things wrong sometimes or use outdated information
Plus its more fun to watch videos than read about it sometimes
inner basin
I like to do both. It can act as double confirmation, even though I trust Halopedia most of the time (minus minor discrepancies)
cedar surge
valiant class floating on the water would be a sight to behold
west silo
Hmmm could a unsc ship move under water ? Like the ship in star trek
inner basin
I mean yeah, but depending on the class, some wouldn't be able to hold their own weight and lift themselves back up
west silo
Like an Autumn class?
humble yacht
i don't see how a space ship could handle underwater
inner basin
I mean it can handle the vacuum of space
humble yacht
spaceships are rated to handle the negative pressure of space
but underwater is positive pressure
west silo
Then that's a dumb space ship😋
Would the gee forces that a space ship have to handle be more powerful than pressure
cedar surge
i think the infinity could handle it
big ship with tons of armor and comes with shielding
and if that fails just slipspace out of the ocean
west silo
The infinity can handle anything as long as plot
gilded mason
yup lol
cedar surge
demands it
west silo
The greatest threat to the infinity to this day is the crew
cedar surge
at this point if the infinity were to have more forerunner technology
such as shields or weapons
i wouldnt be suprised
west silo
Just get an upgrade seed
cedar surge
no ship in the entire halo galaxy has as much plot armor it has
west silo
The keyship is a close runner up
cedar surge
multiple times it should have been boiling metal
i mean who in their right minds hang their flagship all alone ouside of friendly and safe territory to fend for itself
all it takes isa few large fleets or just a cso
to wipe it from existance
west silo
Obviously they watched too much star trek
west silo
Well it does have a bunch of escorts in its gut
cedar surge
more technolgically equal with its allies
west silo
And yes it is
west silo
That can beat covenant capital ships
cedar surge
onin groups yes
west silo
Remember post war
cedar surge
alone no
west silo
The stridents can
cedar surge
against a cas
west silo
Not anymore
cedar surge
and i sincearly doubt the infinity can handle more than a few
west silo
There literally using pre covenant ships now
west silo
Yes but there rare now
west silo
The blooding wars
gilded mason
To be honest, the idea that CAS are "rare" now in some texts doesn't make much sense to me
cedar surge
that was between the arbiter and some groups of elites
vague scroll
*Blooding Years
west silo
Yes thank you
vague scroll
np
cedar surge
yes
vague scroll
Infinity's capabilities are a bit all over the place, given that every encounter has its nuances - kind of like real life
cedar surge
and in the same series a single covenant space station nearly destroyed the infinity
west silo
Where the infinity fought a large fleet for 6 hours and left with no problem
gilded mason
Infinity's capabilities are a bit all over the place
Yeah.
vague scroll
all these statements are in fact, correct
cedar surge
the infinity nearly got murked by a single space station
i would say there are still a few of those still around
west silo
That beam is stated to glass continents in a single shot yes
cedar surge
and how is it different from other covenant ships
gilded mason
Wasn't that one of Hood's infamous hyperbolic statements?
west silo
They usually take hours
cedar surge
"the fleet that detroyed reach was 50 times this size"
vague scroll
but yes it takes a long time to glass a planet, weeks even
west silo
Please are we really gonna take the meme seriously after halo 3
vague scroll
@cedar surge Hood wasn't hyperbolic about that one
inner basin
Glassing planets are usually described as "glassing campaigns"
vague scroll
yes 😛 @west silo
west silo
I really doubt 343 meant for him to come off hyperbolic
vague scroll
that was Bungie not 343i
inner basin
*Bungie lol
west silo
Especially since he's only hiperbolic in halo 3
inner basin
Well it can be argued he was in Halo 2 too with the quote:
the fleet that destroyed Reach was 50 times this size
west silo
Where bungie couldn't even keep consistant for half that game
Oh yeah well they were attacking the entire system
cedar surge
315 covenant ships attacked reach
vague scroll
Halo 3 was fine as a story, we're getting really nitpicky if we start judging all the minor differences
west silo
Man is unsc best admiral really known as the biggest hyperbole person as well
vague scroll
when you go from counting hundreds from only 15 ships, it's not really being in excess
cedar surge
there was 15 ships in the first battle of earth
vague scroll
it's not like there was an actual hard number for how many ships were at Reach at all times, 315 was from a specific point at the end of the campaign
cedar surge
he said the one at reach was 50 times larger
vague scroll
yes, and what I'm trying to say is that it's getting really nitpicky
west silo
Well anyways remember that time the infinity outran a super nova
vague scroll
one number is taken from a author who wrote a book 5 years prior to Halo 2, and Halo 2 was written without any consideration for the book - I feel like this is an unfair assessment
cedar surge
well its not that uncmmen
west silo
Plus this is bungie
vague scroll
as if Bungie is a bad thing
cedar surge
bungie might have not liked the EU
vague scroll
they certainly didn't like Nylund's contributions being forced on them
inner basin
Well anyways remember that time the infinity outran a super nova
Well I wouldn't call opening a slipspace portal and going through "outruning" a Supernova
cedar surge
they certainly didn't like ensemble
inner basin
they certainly didn't like ensemble
Well tbf, another company was creating a game with their IP (while they were still in a contract with MS)
cedar surge
its not like it was their fault
west silo
An were forced to
vague scroll
Microsoft owned the IP, whatever Mister Gates says, goes
west silo
And Microsoft said no
inner basin
I know Ensemble was forced to, and I'm glad they cared for the Universe, but I mean Bungie was probably not happy someone else was working on their IP
west silo
Didn't have to be a butt about it
inner basin
That is true
west silo
Plus it was a very minor genra
inner basin
I still feel bad for Ensemble as they were literally closed down after HW was made
west silo
But we're then reborn
cedar surge
B ungie was shooting at the messenger
Why didn't they realise it wasn't ensembles fault
west silo
Bungie became a diva
inner basin
They were pretty stubborn about anyone, even authors for books, touching their precious franchise
west silo
Literally didn't want background lore for there game
vague scroll
does it really matter? It's a corporate squabble, it's not like Bungie or Ensemble or Microsoft are individuals with feelings. There are people that work in them that probably care but it's not really a pointed matter that one ended up working on one thing or another or preferred one thing over another.
gilded mason
Oh yeah, by the way. Found the "continent" remark from Hood. He said:
"Captain Clayton has a Covenant glassing cannon - a weapon built to melt continents."
So he did not say it melts continents in a single shot. Also, the station that fired it was relatively small. Smaller than a Covenant corvette.
west silo
Well at least he wasn't being overdramatic this time
Didn't bungie also try to sue marty
Why?
vague scroll
they removed Marty at the end of his contract without advance notice, and he argued they docked pay they owed him and he sued the company for damages
west silo
That's very scummy on bungie part
vague scroll
Bungie has shareholders and a board of directors to report to, and Marty has a known headstrong, director-type personality - he probably rubbed people the wrong way or some other matter. The Bungie of Destiny 1 and Halo CE are not the same company, organizations change. Marty won his civil case so I think it's a done deal.
Yeah the reported hold off of pay and the end of contract without notice is pretty bad if it is true but I'm not sure if it is a certainty, even after the case was resolved.
west silo
It reminds me of another person that went from shooter to online genre it didn't end well
inner basin
I'm glad Bungie appear to be a different company now from what they were back then
humble yacht
Bungie was wrong to withhold Marty’s fair severance dues, but they were within their right to fire him
Those are separate matters
cedar surge
B ungie isn't perfect like some people say
timber ridge
Dude, no way 😳
cedar surge
So the SoS is buying food from the ueg right
gilded mason
They might be doing trade, yes.
cedar surge
So how does the currency translate
gilded mason
No idea
cedar surge
Do elites have their own internet
fair hazel
network of some type? Waypoint and chatternets are two networks used by humans
gilded mason
It'd make no sense for 'em not to, so I say yeah.
cedar surge
Honornet
terse lava
Just watch, in honor of the forerunners, the covenant called their internet the domain
cedar surge
But that would be copying the forerunners
gilded mason
The name, at least
cedar surge
And that's a bad thing in the religion
leaden minnow
it was a bunch of old dudes in high tech laser floaty chairs who brainwashed 7 civilizations into beliefs not even their own
west silo
Did the covenant even know that the domain existed or that the forerunners believed in something called the domain
leaden minnow
yes
i believe in one of the games you a squadron of zealots directly address it
hear**
nimble crest
What are you guys favorite covenant Space fairing ship
gilded mason
I guess either the CAS or CCS
terse lava
Likely either the CCS, or the corvette. The cruiser is iconic and a good size, but the corvette is a nice small nice and perfect for exploring. Just get rid of that shield above the coms room
gilded mason
👍
terse lava
Though I figure there are corvettes which do away with that shield anyway
Maybe lose the bottom ring too. Wasnt fond of that at first when reach came out
karmic hemlock
question - halo has AI, from small and stupid to I AM BECOME DEATH. they have compact, highly advanced computer systems. they have full capability of autonomous action. So... why weren't AI more involved in the war?
terse lava
They were, they helped pilot ships, calculate pathways through slipspace, target enemies for weapons, and just basic logistics
gilded mason
They're probably a huge reason why humanity was able to survive for so long.
terse lava
Yeah
nimble crest
Didn’t Athena aid in the creation of the Spartans? Halseys ai in FoR
faint stone
can someone explain guiltys spark entire history
west silo
Thats very long
faint stone
i only remember that he was once an ancient human friends with the iso didact i think?
west silo
Just read halopedia
west silo
He's soul actually
west silo
Forerunners don't use fakes fortunately
terse lava
Well they can make copies, they did that with the lord of admirals and other ancient humans
faint stone
yeah
terse lava
But its implied Chakas was himself, not a copy
faint stone
so was he friends with a forerunner still or not?
ebon mauve
Human on earth. Human on earth with bornstellar. Human on earth with Didact and bornstellar. Human on spaceship. Human on halo. Monitor on halo. Monitor on another halo. Monitor on ark. Monitor on another halo. Monitor on yet another halo. Monitor on the ark again. Monitor on spaceship. Monitor on planet. Robot on planet. Robot on spaceship. Robot on earth.
faint stone
before becoming sparky
karmic hemlock
he had a job opportunity with his didact friend and got his brain dumped into a tea pot
ebon mauve
That's 343/chakas. I think I got it all
terse lava
The link I gave to the halo wiki will answer it for you
karmic hemlock
chakas was his original name
faint stone
and now he's some robot
faint stone
so in a way when he went all crazy at the end of h3 was that rampancy or just pure rage at protocol breach
because the red has people saying rampancy and others just say it's because another ring he's meant to monitor just ruins his entire existence as a whole
west silo
Oh its rampancy the terminals make it very clear
100,000 years of loneliness will do that to you
terse lava
Yeah and technically that wasnt Chakas suffering that, it was the guilty spark personality. Chakas's mind was buried deeper along with many other ancient humans
One nice thing about that, Chakas was able to have company with others for those eons
west silo
Well he was aware of it to some extent
terse lava
Yea but it didnt affect him, he and the others were more passengers
west silo
Well he was still a little crazy willing to kill a bunch of people to bring back his friends who have been dead for eons
terse lava
Come to think of it on that topic
I found it interesting the librarian personality talked of his friends current fate. Asleep in the domain if I recall
west silo
But wasn't the domain basically wiped when the halos fired
terse lava
I will have to find my book but I dontt think it was the domain
faint stone
domain should get fleshed out more
terse lava
Let me check
west silo
I know its theorized that it repaired it self but wouldn't those souls have been lost
faint stone
the halo rings only destroy organic matter right
and those souls wouldn't have being wiped out
west silo
She did mention that she wouldn't be able to rest
faint stone
since they're souls
west silo
The halos destroy neural physics
Which is basically soul energy
faint stone
rip souls
but to not be wiped out by the halos wasn't there specific armor or metal needed?
west silo
Well halo never outright states souls since you know sci fi
faint stone
void plating iirc
west silo
Just be in slipspace or in a criptum