so, a bean can rek a ring
#lore-and-universe
humble yacht
A bean can wreck anything when you split atoms inside of it
full forge
Wonder what those Onyx Trevelyn folks are up to
lethal comet
they are chilling in a slipspace bubble
full forge
As of 2558 yeah
A lot can happen in 4 years, although that time has likely passed quite quickly for them.
fair hazel
You’re assuming they have a bunch of nova bombs
cedar tusk
If a spartan were to naruto run, would he run faster than sprinting? I don't think so.
carmine sleet
I don't think Naruto running actually makes anyone faster
versed helm
naruto running barely reduces air drag
its practically useless on a person who already runs much faster than the average humie
fair hazel
isnt it a hinderance..?
nimble crest
It is just running no faster and looking like an idiot
humble yacht
there's some debate whether proper running form (i.e. pumping your arms at your side) increases top speed or whether it just improves energy efficiency, but certainly naruto running doesn't make you faster
sharp adder
So in others words any post wwr unsc ship engine can take out a ring
humble yacht
it either makes you slower or doesn't change your max speed
sharp adder
It in sse blood flow so that you can get more oxygen in and bad stuff out to run for longer and faster
lethal comet
Imagine chief naruto running
smoky pond
Zoom
sharp adder
Oh no that would make him a hertic against all of UNSC GEM CREATED FORUNERR COVERTNT OLD AND NEW> Imagine chief naruto running
@lethal comet
nimble crest
Y’all think forge was apart of Orion?
humble yacht
no
nimble crest
Did the long swords have separate slipspace engines or did they piggyback off of larger ships
pine pilot
Imagine chief naruto running
@lethal comet presenting the all new reclaimer anime
unique rune
Longswords are not fitted with slipsace drives
They’re primarily fighter craft so I really don’t think they’d benefit from having their own
humble yacht
Neither longswords nor broadswords were rated for slipspace
nimble crest
Besides frigates and large ships what other ones had them
humble yacht
they would have to be docked in a large ship to navigate slipspace
or hide in the shields of a much larger ship
fringe robin
like Didact's metapod ship
humble yacht
it did look like a metapod, didn't it
fringe robin
a little yeah, that's what it reminded me of when I first saw it lol
carmine sleet
I do wish the Ur-Didact didn't use action replay to teach it hyper beam
unique rune
The sheer size of the Mantle’s Approach still weirds me out
gilded mason
It is very dumb.
humble yacht
oh ok, the moon is still much larger
west silo
Forerunners build big
gilded mason
fringe robin
the fact that it's so big that it has a thin atmosphere around the hull..
unique rune
meanwhile the Infinity’s like 5.7 km long
it should barely even be visible against the MA
gilded mason
Its design just...does not help it feel that big at all.
fringe robin
I guess that mining nuke was pretty powerful 
fringe robin
yeah
humble yacht
maybe it just set off a lucky chain reaction
last anchor
Most of Mantles Approach made it out anyway.
gilded mason
Dang retcons.
humble yacht
as wreckage
last anchor
It didnt have to be powerful, just enough to destroy the Composer (which it did) and trigger Mantles Approachs' emergency slipspace
I mean its not exactly a retcon, I always figured there was something like that going on.
If 04 can hurl a chunk of itself through slipspace...
west silo
What I find really weird is that it has to change its shape every time it uses its main cannon
gilded mason
I dunno, I'd say it qualifies. We only learn about it in a forum post a couple years later, and then John in Halo 5 talks about it as if he saw it happen at the end of Halo 4.
last anchor
Fair. Still, they dont EXPLICETLY state that its destroyed that I remember. Chief hits the Nuke, we see the hardlight bubble, Cortana vanishes, and Chiefs left floating in dead space surrounded by debris.
Its implied, but I personally found myself frowning at the debris field, thinking "wheres the rest of it?"
So it made sense to me that it escaped.
So...a soft retcon? Not a hard chop one
humble yacht
it's ridiculous no matter what
it's like the "emergency temporal shift" from Doctor Who
feral perch
That wasn’t ridiculous
humble yacht
sure it was
feral perch
not really
humble yacht
Doctor Who is full of ridiculous stuff, that's it's hallmark
feral perch
well then it’s hardly meaningful to call it ridiculous in a context of normal ridiculousness
cedar surge
So there were no megacity sized chunks left over earth?
humble yacht
¯_(ツ)_/¯
humble yacht
what do you mean?
cedar surge
Because Apprently the mantle approach as it was destroyed tried to make a slipspace jump
And that's how rampant cortana got into the domain
humble yacht
it made a slipspace jump in response to catastrophic damage
it's not like detecting a slipspace event would mean the UNSC could do anything about it
they didn't have anti-slipspace generators
versed helm
Worst job in the UNSC
west silo
Well the mantles approach is made mostly of hardlight light most forerunner ship
The keyship being the only exception
humble yacht
i don't they ever said it was mostly hardlight
but a mixture of hardlight and smart matter
west silo
Well if u go with mostly matter how the he'll did the unsc get rid of a moons worth of debris
That would be falling straight to earth
humble yacht
moon's worth? where'd you get that idea
humble yacht
not moon big
nimble crest
The engine of the infinity was forerunner, yes?
humble yacht
yes
west silo
Plus wasn't it implied by halsey journal that ai entering slipspace could end up somewhere bad
Maybe that explains cortana?
nimble crest
Where did they get the engine?
nimble crest
Aye
west silo
AI go into splipspace all the time
@humble yacht
Remember the experiment with the ai and it said it saw things in slipspace
humble yacht
that was a special case of using slipspace in lieu of a matrix
west silo
Forerunners can why not gods
humble yacht
Cortana's matrix was in the ship, not directly exposed to slipspace
cedar surge
Ha,I said in a comment section that cortana becoming good again would be bad,and someone asked if I played halo 3
As if that would affect my amswet
gilded mason
What a non-sequitur
cedar surge
Oh and you want to know what the lead comment was?
Cure cortana of the logic plague and bring her home
gilded mason
aaaaa
Oh yeah, Lance. Definitely agree with you on the "aliens return to their homeworld" thing from earlier.
cedar surge
When a empire is defeated everyone apart of that empire just don't go "oh guess lets go back to our original home guys"
gilded mason
It's actually part of a subset of a huge essay thing some friends and I wrote a while back
cedar surge
On halo?
gilded mason
We are likely talking about tens of millions of alien labourers on Sanghelios in order to singularly prop up its agricultural labour force, according to Kilo-5's faulty premise. Where are all of these people going to go, and how are they going to get there? It’s something of a trope that these species would all just return to their homeworld, but there’s massive logistical problems with that; namely that their homeworlds won’t be able to support a sudden influx of millions of people in a short span of time.
Furthermore, we are entertaining the notion that all these labourers are going to give up their source of income working on Sanghelios. How are they going to eat, having left behind their income stream? Where would they live, having left behind their home on Sanghelios? We are being expected to believe that in a time of great uncertainty, tens of millions of people would abandon what little certainty they had in their lives in order to take a huge gamble with their lives and that of their families to try and set up a new life on a completely different planet for no real benefit.
So the question of where all these people went, and why they would choose to upend their lives in order to go...somewhere, was not sufficiently answered in the novels and as a result was extremely unlikely in how it was presented. In no way is it reasonable to propose that just because High Charity is gone that all non-Sangheili living on Sanghelios would leave. That’s not why they were there.
It's only talking about Sanghelios here, but it can obviously expanded to any Covenant world
Not to mention places like Malurok, which have been jointly colonized by Sangheili and Yanme'e for hundreds to thousnads of years.
cedar surge
Well there are still brute,jackal,grunt,and elite colonies
gilded mason
The Yanme'e aren't just gonna leave the home of they lived on for generations to go to some new place that's their "homeworld"
cedar surge
Many of them
Except the drones are just at home
I think most drones actually went back to their homeworld
gilded mason
That wouldn't make sense
cedar surge
They don't really have colonies of their own
gilded mason
Malurok is a pretty famous one, as I stated
And Warfleet actually corroborates that they never left, saying that the joint Sangheili-Yanme'e colony has big ambitions for the future, post-war.
cedar surge
I wish we get to see more covenant colonies
gilded mason
Yeah
cedar surge
Want to see how each race build stuff
gilded mason
We see and hear about so many UNSC ones, and yet so few Covenant ones
cedar surge
Well
gilded mason
Yeah, that's the issue. 😋
(If you were gonna say what I thought you were gonna say)
cedar surge
Yea
I think there are 200 confirmed humanity worlds on halopedia
Out of 800
So would drones actually create buildings?
Or just put tech in their hives?
gilded mason
Not sure
nimble crest
Probably the latter
nimble crest
4th floor: living room
cedar surge
Are there different versions of the hunters like other species?
humble yacht
the lekgolo can assume a variety of forms
the hunters (mgalekgolo) are one such form
inner basin
Well there is the Mgalegkolo and the Legkolo
The Lekgolo are the ones that have more uses (such as coming together to be apart of a Scarab) compared to the Mgalekgolo who are mainly used as Hunters
humble yacht
the mgalekgolo is the hunter
mgalekgolo does not refer to a special type of lekgolo worm
the lekgolo worm is the base unit for all configurations
inner basin
Yeah but the Legkolo have been seen fulfilling many roles where as the Mgalekgolo worms have only been seen to come together to form a Hunter
gilded mason
Lekgolo become Mgalegkolo when they take that Hunter configuration
inner basin
Oh, I see
carmine sleet
Ostral beat me to it
inner basin
That makes more sense
humble yacht
yeah, there is no "mgalekgolo worm", that's what i was saying
other worm configurations include the thanolekgolo
though whether that form is naturally occurring is not clear
then of course there is the goliath form
inner basin
My brain is just so fried after today and then Ostral’s explaination just clicked in my head
cedar surge
Thanolekgolo?
Also if Cole was at the battle of earth do you think the unsc coukd have held the covenant back?
gilded mason
Nah
humble yacht
Thanolekgolo?
The lekgolo from Nightfall
cedar surge
Lol
Somebody really said the covenant would be screwed without humanity
Because they wouldn't be able to activate the rings
Some people really think they are the master chief or noble 6 in the comment section huh
The latter is even more funny cause
"I'm quiet and follow orders"
humble yacht
well yeah, it's sorta true
let's say the covenant got lucky and managed to kill off all humans really early on, like in 2525
they never would be able to activate the rings
no reclaimers, no great journey
gilded mason
Though I dunno if I'd call that "screwed"
cedar surge
The covenant doesn't even have to set a foot on our earth,just glass us from orbit
Or if we are really lucky
Become a fringe species
Which while means we won't get destroyed by the covenant,we will probably star attacking each other
Some elites went back to their old religions after the covenant fell right
Like that one palace or monetary that elites use
So how does the covenant deal with diseases?
humble yacht
The sick aren’t worthy of going on the Great Journey
craggy sierra
That’s hypocritical since their leaders are genetic dead ends that look like they can barely walk.
gilded mason
They treat diseases, don't worry
craggy sierra
I figured
humble yacht
Gods must be strong
cedar surge
Have we got a look into grunt society?
We mostly just see them thrown at the enemy
Sometimes literally
cedar surge
Hey ATP
You were complaining about Johnson not being mentioned anytime post war right? Well in the living monuments trailer for CE anniversary,showing the names of hero's and battles,it shows Johnson's name on the screen
cedar surge
Any specific reason why covenant ships are purple?
gilded mason
'Cause purple is neat
inner basin
Not very discreet though. It’s more like “I’m a big luminous purple target, shoot me”
cedar surge
The unsc would gladly
Covenant is lucky the unsc didn't sends out more Spartan teams or prowlers to destroy covenant worlds
inner basin
I don’t think the UNSC could afford many offensive options considering their strategy was trying to defend as many humans planets as possible
cedar surge
Its not like they are sending out a fleet or entire armies
Just a few prowlers and Spartan teams
inner basin
Yeah, but Spartans were a critical part of ground defence. They were the main threat to Covenant troops
delicate notch
Have you guys seen one of the latest WatchMojo-vids? "Top 10 Most Destructive Video Game Weapons Ever", Nr.2 was the Halo Array, Nr.1 was the crucible in Mass Effect, whats you guys thoughts on that?
cedar surge
Crucible destroys all life in the galaxy ye?
It depends on how it destroys life
The halo rings destroy the nervous system
inner basin
I’ve never really played Mass Effect or know much about the Universe so I can’t really provide any meaningful discussion
delicate notch
No, it has three settings. 1. Ensalve all synthetic life 2. Destroy all synthetic life. 3. Combine all synthetic and all biological life - In the galaxy.
cedar surge
So 3 is just the flood
Also yea I would say this is a more destructive weapon
While the rings just destroy all nervous systems in the galaxy
The crucible has three very dangerous settinga
delicate notch
Yea, thats my thought too. The Halo array might be more powerful but the Crucible has the potential to do more dmg.
cedar surge
Also had a discussion yesterday where the unsc was facing off against ME and it ended down to the unsc would win but take massive causulties
delicate notch
Check DM @cedar surge
west silo
The crucible only makes u control the reapers
Or through some plot convenience enslave aliens through maybe some form indoctrination
cedar surge
Who would even make that a feature
stiff creek
Some giant water dudes.
cedar surge
Yea I heard about that
west silo
But the halo's are more powerful
Since one can kill every in a 25,000 ly radius while with the reapers u have to search and destroy
cedar surge
Oh wait that's how it destroys life in the galaxy?
I thought the crucible itself destroys life
west silo
No u control the reapers
Whose most powerful ship is weaker than a unsc frigate in firepower
As in 400kilotons of tnt worth of damage
west silo
Yep
The unsc could beat the reapers its would only be as bad as the human covenant war in terms of deaths
west silo
The reapers also have a stupid form of ship building
delicate notch
BUT BUT THEY LOOK LIKE SQUIDS!
west silo
The covenant would destroy the verse unless they pull a great schism on the covenant
BUT BUT THEY LOOK LIKE SQUIDS!
@delicate notch
Ha but the elites also look like squids
nimble crest
Engineers in infinite or we riot
cedar surge
Well
Would they do much?
Either you have ones strapped with bombs
Or crazed ones
gilded mason
Yeah. I don't really feel like murdering innocent beings.
cedar surge
Played a CE custom map,thought I was shooting at a grunt,turned out it was a engineer repairing a ship
unique rune
How far would they get in ME
I didn't realize you were talking about Mass Effect
so I was
maybe a little confused and concerned for a sec
unique rune
Opening this channel to see that question was certainly not something I was expecting today
west silo
Mass effect is good its just the last 5 mins of the last game killed the franchise
And then the other game just destroyed the body
kindred epoch
question: what if they have taco bell
cedar surge
@west silo what do yo you mean by their way of building ships
In Mass effect or halo
west silo
Mass effect
kindred epoch
what if halo UNSC have taco bell and McDonalds Big Mac
west silo
They only build one capital ship using only one species every cycle
what if halo UNSC have taco bell and McDonalds Big Mac
@kindred epoch
They got moa meat
kindred epoch
:((
kindred epoch
thank god
cedar surge
Doesn't that mean that in just a few weeks or months the unsc could have figured out every weaknesses?
kindred epoch
now i can use Boneless meat with Big macs in a pelicen
with chips and some boneless buns
cedar surge
Well I did hear about red shark meat getting popular on a colony
Maybe that will replace S moa
west silo
It's really funny to read some fics that try to fit reapers into the universe only to find out how powerful the forerunners are and then just say that the reapers hid for the entire time
unique rune
They used to have moa meat
Moa meat is still around, just real expensive after the fall of Reach.
cedar surge
So the readers were just hiding. Like scared rats the entire time
I just find that so funny
It doesnt even matter the time period
Most civilizations in halo could clap the reapers
What about indoctrination
Ain't that a threat?
What about ground forces
Actually do ground forces matter?
Unless they land on unsc worlds the unsc could just bombard from orbit
west silo
What about indoctrination
@cedar surge
Only if u don't have soundproof helmets
cedar surge
So
west silo
And the effects can take days to weeks
cedar surge
Most of the unsc would be immune
west silo
To happen
cedar surge
Like consistent contact?
west silo
Because it's literally sound waves
Like consistent contact?
@cedar surge
Like a constant buzzing in ur ear
cedar surge
So any spartan on the field,or soldiers for that matter would be immune?
cedar surge
So basically the reapers have no chance against anybody in halo
Not against main factions and governments
And not even rebels and insurrectionists
west silo
Well covenant who are foolish enough to try using reaper tech would get indoctrinated since they don't use ais
And reaper ground troops suck
west silo
There most common troops can only attack with melee
cedar surge
:/
west silo
U know wwz?
cedar surge
Starting to wonder how these guys managed to wipe out life
west silo
The zombies?
cedar surge
The whole,infected wont go after you if your already sick thing?
west silo
There like those zombies but they can't infect u and aren't as fast
And shooting the heart or head kills them
The whole,infected wont go after you if your already sick thing?
@cedar surge
Yep that one
cedar surge
So the readers can't attack you
If your sick
How have these guys wiped out the galaxy multiple times?
west silo
No am talking the movie
cedar surge
Oh
west silo
How have these guys wiped out the galaxy multiple times?
@cedar surge
They have the best stuff in the galaxy and set up traps basically crippling the enemy before the battle even starts
When that doesn't work well see mass effect
west silo
Well many brutes do use melee weapons
@cedar surge
As in the try to bite u or just punch u to death
No weapons just fist
delicate notch
Well they went into brute mode, which is like juggernaut.
west silo
Bansees on the other hand are horrifying
cedar surge
Are these elite troops?
west silo
The best of the best
cedar surge
They use weapons right?
west silo
There basically prometheans with out weapons they can teleport and use the the force
And no they dont have weopeans
cedar surge
Do any ground troops use weapons or vehicles?
cedar surge
For the first or second one
west silo
Second
cedar surge
It sounds like their entire ground force can be taken care of by scorpions and warthogs
west silo
And don't even get me started on andromeda
cedar surge
They don't even have to bring the extensuve ground forces the unsc has
west silo
It sounds like their entire ground force can be taken care of by scorpions and warthogs
@cedar surge
Oh they can
Its why they usually just blasted everything
cedar surge
Just those two
west silo
And there FTL sucks
west silo
Thousands
cedar surge
At the start of the war its generally agreed the unsc had Pp warships
west silo
Most of them are destroyers though
cedar surge
So one mac blast would destroy one ship?
west silo
At the start of the war its generally agreed the unsc had Pp warships
@cedar surge
Well firepower wise the unsc is good but defense wise yes
cedar surge
I meant 2000
west silo
So one mac blast would destroy one ship?
@cedar surge
Either that or cripple it
cedar surge
And the unsc had battlegroups and fleets with hundreds of ships
west silo
I meant 2000
@cedar surge
That number makes no sense if u count up some of the battles with unsc ships
west silo
Well one battle had the unsc with 300 ships another
And that was very late into the war
cedar surge
So you think its like 3000 or even 4000? Actually templin institute said the unsc had 7000 warships
Which is even a greater loss for what the unsc had left at the end of the war
Does the readers have a home ship?
Or home base?
Somewhere nova bombable?
west silo
Nope they just chill in deep space till there ready to kill everone
cedar surge
So
How do they create reapers then
If they just chilling in the nowhere of space
Actually that might rven be better
Find out where they hang out
And just nova bomb it
delicate notch
Yea, they chill in a dark-space part of the universe
cedar surge
The unsc has two nova bombs we know of
So sneak in there with prowlers and set them off
west silo
Its takes them 6 months to reach the galaxy
And faster than light is 30lys per day
That's like slightly faster or slower than pre war unsc
humble yacht
Faster than light would be 1 light year per day
Because a light year is how far light travels in a year
cedar surge
What about coilguns and missiles,woild those be effective against reaper shields?
west silo
Am talking the reapers faster than light travel
What about coilguns and missiles,woild those be effective against reaper shields?
@cedar surge
Yes there normal shields they just suck against lasers and plasma because they only block kinetic rounds
delicate notch
Pretty cool, wrote to Mogs in the Braille team and got a response 40 minutes later.
cedar surge
So a normal missile or coilgun barrage would Actually work against the readers than the covenant
west silo
Yes if can hit
Honestly the only reason they won is because they basically make everyone play a game that they've basically rigged from the start
Dang if u get the bad ending in 3 its implied that the information left for the new species will be able to have a chance to maybe even beat the reapers
vestal ermine
You know , for something that is cut content, but could be added to MCC like what Postums said about long lost items of spartan armor which my guess is the GRD. So if the GRD is gonna be added to MCC, will it mean that GRD is officially part of the Halo Lore of Mjolnir armor?
unique rune
If it gets officially added, yeah, I would assume it'd be canonical.
vestal ermine
And if it's added, hopefully 343 would make some information of the GRD armor lore wise.
I mean, when you put a curser on the selectable armor, it could have some small info like the rest of the Reach armor you select.
For example, when I go to Customization menu, and go to Mark VB helmet, it would say "Entered service in 2551, UNICOM/SPECWAR/GroupTHREE has been the sole adapter."
If there's one thing we enjoy more than just video games in general, it's the lore and history of the game's universe itself to know more about how the story progressed and what has been going on from it.
unique rune
Hm. Interesting that it's identified as Preserve in the game files.
Didn't know that there was another cut armor called Condemned in the game files either.
vestal ermine
Yeah. The more we know more about the history behind those cut content armor, the better.
nimble crest
What lore could we make out of that helmet it’s weird
vestal ermine
Well, the helmet has strange design, but possibly the story behind it would probably include what they're specifically worn by, either through combat, or espionage
Probably for data collecting and stealth in the lore. Asassination maybe since they're probably worn by Spartan 3s since Spartan 3s are mostly assassins instead of just super soldiers.
west silo
When it enter service, who designed it , what its propose
vestal ermine
Now that's the question we would like to know
west silo
Doesn't the Eva helmet have some lore and its a helmet
west silo
Yep
cedar surge
The banished will eventually become the leading faction for the brutes like the unsc and SoS right?
unique rune
Kinda hard to say for sure
gray hinge
unique rune
Not sure why you felt the need to test it that way but alright
lethal comet
If this was general you would still be testing
cedar surge
Imagine the banished habing control over brute colonies
Billions of brutes for the banished to recruit
I think that would solve one of the brutes main problems
No infastructure
The banished could give that infastructure
west silo
Well they do have influence on the brute homeworld
cedar surge
And hey
Using the engineers they have
They could build that infastructure
And the banished would be the leading faction for brutes
Which ONI would immediately try to sabotage
Actually
Why didn't the prophets actually teach the brutes these things
They were going to replace the elites
dense pulsar
If given enough time, tech, and resources, would Brutes not fight each other to build up a decent sized society?
west silo
They were already giving centuries worth of knowledge to a species that had only just gotten into space for less than 60 years
If given enough time, tech, and resources, would Brutes not fight each other to build up a decent sized society?
@dense pulsar
They nuked each other to the Stone age because two clans had a disagreement
They probably just need to work on their angry first
But yes the brutes have already achieved space travel once they could do it again
cedar surge
Saw two people complaining 343 retconned the banished into a powerhouse against the covenant.
I was wondering where these people thino the banished was before halo wars 2
Also wait it was 2?
west silo
Nope even the comics had the banished being pirates
cedar surge
I tjought it was a clan free for all
west silo
And gaining most of there influence after the fall of the covenant
I tjought it was a clan free for all
@cedar surge
I only remember tartarus clan fighting against another honestly
cedar surge
How long was the nuked to stone thing ago?
Actually if the brutes managed to reach rocket propulsion before the covenant
They should be smart enough to build infastructure
nimble crest
Like 100-200 years before they came into the covenant
What was there tech like before?
west silo
They colonized there moon before they nuked themselves
Soo more advanced than us
And when the covenant found them they had just rediscovered the radio
lethal comet
Humans colonised mars
Brutes can invent stuff
But that seems to be the case with weaponry mostly
Thry built grav hammers
spikers
Building a gravity hammer would take a deep understanding of physics
royal smelt
candid quartz
Interesting that the Brutes are portrayed as being dumb (mostly) yet they can be extremely intelligent.
austere flower
So, in Halo Reach, we all know the opening cutscene with Noble 6 meeting the team while Carter talks to Commander Keyes... Keyes mentions something very specific, yet something i know nothing of. His line goes like this "we cant let what happened to Harmony happen here on Reach" and then Carter and the team leave. What is "Harmony" and its story? I never heard about it ANYWHERE but this one cutscene in Halo Reach... anyone know?
cedar surge
@nimble crest humanity actually colonized 800
There is just about 200 known colonies from my lioking at halopedia
craggy sierra
Keyes? Opening cutscene? What?
cedar surge
He is ralking about the human colony harmony
craggy sierra
I don’t think that was keyes
cedar surge
It got glassed before reach
craggy sierra
Which is what I was getting at
gilded mason
humanity actually colonized 800
They didn't colonize 800 planets, to clarify
terse lava
It was Col. Holland talking to Carter
cedar surge
@austere flower it was Col. Holland
Don't know why he specifically said harmony
Hundreds of colonies got glassed
Harmony ain't special
gilded mason
I imagine Harmony was the site of an insurrection thing
terse lava
think so
cedar surge
Now if it actually managed to survive like new harmony did then it would be impressive
terse lava
they nabbed some civilian ship
cedar surge
Two
Freighters
ONI cracked the covenants code but let troy and harmony fall so the covenant didn't know
@gilded mason so would you say 600 or 700 actual colonized planets?
gilded mason
Maybe 300-500?
west silo
Isn't it said that humanity has 800 colonies
candid laurel
Yeah
west silo
An colonies most times refer to planets
gilded mason
Warfleet explains that the 800 figure includes the many multitudes of mining sites, research stations, outpost relays, etc that the UNSC possess
So actual planets colonized would be much smaller
west silo
Soooo could be anywhere from 300 to 400
gilded mason
They don't "need" one
candid laurel
Is their anything in the lore about what the covenant races smell like i like to imagine grunts smelling like lobster
scarlet frost
Lmfas
craggy sierra
I’m pretty sure lobster only smells when cooked.
cedar surge
I think 500 is around the actual colonized planets
Don't know why the unsc would call a mining site a colony though
Seems kinda unneeded
gilded mason
¯_(ツ)_/¯
terse lava
hm, I recall lekgolo blood smells of fresh tar
cedar surge
Yea it seemed unnecessary for 343 to include that I think
terse lava
and think there was something about Sangheili males having a certain smell to them while females "smell like feathers"
cedar surge
Because who would ever call a research station or mining place a colony
gilded mason
something about Sangheili males having a certain smell
~Leather~
cedar surge
What do feathers smell like
gilded mason
Me
terse lava
Thank you Ostral
gilded mason
👍
lethal comet
And brute pheromones supposedly stink like rotten meat
or something like that
I need to reread CH
cedar surge
Oooh
So that's why the brutes were releasing gas in the story I'm reading
Wow thus story is pretty well researched
west silo
Because reasons
But seriously it was probably implement so that the Spartans wouldn't hurt themselves while running full speed
stiff creek
Gameplay.
west silo
Like what happened to chief in the fall of reach
west silo
And it torn chiefs tendon
cedar surge
Then shouldn't a spartans just know not to run that fast?
west silo
So thats probably why
cedar surge
Huh?
west silo
Then shouldn't a spartans just know not to run that fast?
@cedar surge
I don't know am just trying to come up with a logical explanation for a stupid retcon
cedar surge
Sometimes some things just don't need to be canon
stiff creek
Right.
In 4, Chief can sprint just fine.
Maybe the Cat 2's just needed some assistance to run in MJOLNIR.
cedar surge
Really,in the halopedia page of 2555
The invasion of earth
They really lost ten ships and aacyed like it was the final stand of earth
We don't even know how big those ships were
versed helm
the fact that they say ships probably means they were kinda imprtant
versed helm
must be
we still dont have the names of every UNSC cruiser ever
just the important ones
and losing 10 cruisers can mean a lot
midnight plume
hi i would like to ask if there is any canon explanation why the hunters sticked with the Brutes in Halo 3 when the fought along side with the elites in halo 2 (I guess its because of gameplay but i would still like to know if theres an explaination for it)
carmine sleet
While Hunters are made up of worms, not all of the worm colonies are going to agree. Some sided with the Elites, others the Brutes
hollow sorrel
Is there a canon reason why the UNSC would have moved away from spartan abilities? Like we’re pretty sure those won’t be in Infinite, is there a reason why yet?
versed helm
better to develop the armour as a whole than to focus on specific things, i guess
inner basin
And you know, the III's wearing MJOLNIR.
Weren't made to wear it.
@stiff creek This statement just isn’t true lmao. Although the majority of S-IIIs wore SPI (whether they are in the mainline companies or the Headhunter program) there were some who were selected and removed from the companies and specifically given Mjolnir (which was planned). Another thing I feel the need to point out is that the S-II and S-III augmentations are equally effective, hell, I’d say the Gamma Companies augments exceed the S-II augmentations because of the illegal augmentations that Kurt added due to him being upset with the loss of Alpha and Beta companies
versed helm
wait, how do the Gamma augs exceed the S-II augs? the Gammas didnt have heavy physical augmentations
humble yacht
Is there a canon reason why the UNSC would have moved away from spartan abilities? Like we’re pretty sure those won’t be in Infinite, is there a reason why yet?
Gameplay != canon
just because you can’t do something in game doesn’t mean Spartans in the lore can’t do that thing
versed helm
also, can someone please tell me how linda ended up in the PoI's cryochambers with heavy burns?
humble yacht
Just because the spartan III augs were largely chemical does not mean they were weaker
versed helm
im not saying they were weaker, im saying they weren't as over the top as the S-II augmentations
humble yacht
The only thing over the top about s II augs was the fail rate
inner basin
also, can someone please tell me how linda ended up in the PoI's cryochambers with heavy burns?
I assume you meant PoA? It’s because she was clinically dead for a time, obviously the heavy burns are plasma damage (which killed her). Ofc she was resuscitated
lethal comet
She got shot by a plasma rifle
versed helm
and did she get on PoA during the fall of reach, or before?
lethal comet
During
lethal comet
John, Linda and that other spartan who was lost in space fought on a space dock
To enact the cole protocol on a ship
carmine sleet
James-005
lethal comet
Linda got shot just as they were exfiltrating
carmine sleet
Still think he should've been James-007 but I guess that would've been too on the nose of a reference (Maybe also potentially risky to do because of copyright or whatever too)
versed helm
which book enlightens us about this incident? i cant remember
carmine sleet
Fall of Reach
stiff creek
Oh I know Beastsprayz, just sayin random shi. Tryin to make sense of the sprint armor ability.
What if Del Rio became a Spartan.
That'd be funnye.
versed helm
that'd be messed up
craggy sierra
I’m pretty sure Spartan 4’s are typically younger and more fit than Del Rio.
Dude’s a twig
Also in a commanding position and not a frontline soldier
sharp adder
I hope Dubbo becomes a Spartan
sharp adder
No he has been in all except 5 and reach he is in h4q
carmine sleet
Chips was not in Halo 4
lethal comet
I wonder why Stacker hasn't been made a spartan yet
carmine sleet
He could've declined or was just not offered. It's not like they went round offering that chance to everyone
And not everyone would say yes
carmine sleet
Surviving those doesn't mean he would've been offered a place
sterile yoke
Noble 6 is alive
carmine sleet
Please don't with the Six is alive stuff
sterile yoke
He is tho
lethal comet
NOBLE SIX IS DEAD AND THAT'S IT
None of that cave theory here
We saw him get killed by zealots and a field marshal
sterile yoke
Ok 1 after his shields popped he was only stabbed with an energy knife and was still moving he could’ve fought them off
And also how do you know the area was being glassed
lethal comet
There were generals, ultras, zealots, field marshal
On top of that
reach was glassed
sterile yoke
There was one stab after the camera cut and his shields popped meaning he didn’t get hurt
And not all of reach was glassed
dense pulsar
Halsey even has an entire monologue about his sacrifice and why it was important to humanity
sterile yoke
A lot of it was saved for mining for the covenant
humble yacht
“Don’t feed the trolls”
sterile yoke
She never said he was actually dead
versed helm
hard to see someone surviving a ripped open gut
sterile yoke
His shields popped when the stabbed him
sharp adder
Well Dubbo surived flood covernt inserections ists extinction lozeing bis entire squad he also survived the war1
craggy sierra
Noble 6 has been confirmed dead by both Bungie and 343 in interviews and extended universe
versed helm
did chips survive a bunch of swords in the gut?
sterile yoke
Not bungie but 343
dense pulsar
Helmet broken, shields popped, on the ground, and surrounded by high ranking elites
sterile yoke
And 343 sucks
craggy sierra
Bungie did confirm it
versed helm
basic logic confirms it
dense pulsar
Yea, Noble 6 TOTALLY walked away from all of that
lethal comet
I don't have the energy to keep going
versed helm
"oh yeah, i just lost 60% of my organs. tis but a flesh wound"
craggy sierra
Besides what merit is there to keeping him alive. His character is a brick with no emotions or personality what so ever.
dense pulsar
Exactly
sharp adder
Also he was a 3 not a 2
versed helm
lets be honest, though. we didnt like 6 for his great personality
lethal comet
Lets listen to chimera
versed helm
we liked him cause he gave zero hecks
lethal comet
'Don't feed the troll'
sharp adder
He was a 3 not a 2 so he had 1 chance
dense pulsar
His entire arc was going from guy whp fights alone for a concrete goal to someone who fights in an organization for something more abstract
versed helm
even chief's luck couldnt get him out of that situation
humble yacht
Imagine if Noble 7 was real
inner basin
@sterile yoke Keep the 6 is alive stuff in your headcanon, but learn the difference between canon and headcanon
inner basin
Imagine if Noble 7 was real
Sounds like a HaloFollower vid tbh
dense pulsar
Spartan B-666
lethal comet
Imagine if Noble 7 was real
Only time bungie didnt pounce at a 7 reference
versed helm
do not
lethal comet
Featuring
inner basin
Only time bungie didnt pounce at a 7 reference
I never thought about that. Maybe that’s the irony of it?
unique rune
Bungie really should have just shown B312 take an energy dagger to the face on-screen instead of the cut to black
craggy sierra
No?
versed helm
he took a bunch of em in his gut
lethal comet
Do you want to see what melting brains look like
versed helm
we see him get stabbed into non-existence
inner basin
he took a bunch of em in his gut
Off-camera
humble yacht
Noble 7 was an action figure made exclusively for SDCC by macfarlane toys
craggy sierra
There's this thing called cinematography. Not everything has to be shown in explicit detail and cut aways can be used to convey a message or implication just as good.
dense pulsar
Just because you don't physically see it doesn't mean it didn't happen
versed helm
yep
humble yacht
You guys realize you’re talking to air now, right?
craggy sierra
I was talking to nova
humble yacht
Oh
unique rune
I am very much well aware of that
lethal comet
I can't believe bungie didnt go for the 7 reference in their final halo game
unique rune
Like I know the implication is that he's dead and there's official confirmation for it
dense pulsar
Well noble team is a reference to the noble gasses on the periodic table
unique rune
But I'm so sick of "Noble Six is alive because etc." that I almost would have preferred they just killed him on screen
humble yacht
Just ignore them
inner basin
^ I was about to defend you saying the same thing, Nova
versed helm
as heart warming it would be to see 6 walk up and be like "that was a good nap", it aint gonna happen, cause he has plasma swords for intestines now
humble yacht
(Evil laugh)
sharp adder
If 6bsurived then that means yap yap will rule the galaxy after overthrowing cortana guardians and created
lethal comet
They probably took his skull as a trophy
sharp adder
And wiping out the flood
unique rune
oh no Chimera's being ominous and vague
inner basin
as heart warming it would be to see 6 walk up and be like "that was a good nap", it aint gonna happen, cause he has plasma swords for intestines now
I could’ve done without the explicit imagery, thanks
dense pulsar
I mean it's a Testament to how dangerous you are when that many high ranking elites need to stab you in a circle prison style
inner basin
They probably took his skull as a trophy
What I said above
humble yacht
How neat would it be if Thel Lodamee joined the banished and became one of the members of the Hand
Round 2 between him and Chief
dense pulsar
Would you guys say the team in ODST are outliers compared to the rest of the ODSTs?
dense pulsar
Rookie managed to make his way through a Covenant controlled city by himself
inner basin
I mean it's a Testament to how dangerous you are when that many high ranking elites need to stab you in a circle prison style
I mean the Elites aren’t like that. They’re elegant but lethal. They aren’t all gonna jump in stabbing Six the way you described it
versed helm
one of them became a S-IV, so yeah.
lethal comet
The greatest coward of them all
versed helm
I mean the Elites aren’t like that. They’re elegant but lethal. They aren’t all gonna jump in stabbing Six the way you described it
they'll take turns
lethal comet
Do dutch and gretchen have mjolnir with them
inner basin
Dare didn’t become a S-IV
lethal comet
I haven't read bad blood yet
dense pulsar
I thought that was dumb as hell
inner basin
But then again she isn’t an ODST tbf
dense pulsar
Rookie really went through all of ODST
unique rune
Do dutch and gretchen have mjolnir with them
They do, yes
lethal comet
What variant nova?
unique rune
Pretty sure it was Helljumper
dense pulsar
And the way he dies is by being executed by insurrectionists
inner basin
they'll take turns
That is still a misrepresentation of Elites. They don’t do that
inner basin
She’s also not an odst
I did say that
dense pulsar
Was keeping the Covenant super secret a detriment to force readiness for the UNSC?
versed helm
yep
inner basin
I’d say so
Former ODSTs having helljumper mjolnir, how creative
At least it’s something they are used to
sharp adder
I could’ve done without the explicit imagery, thanks
@inner basin i cound go into more detail it would probably make someone vomit but who cares because details are important
versed helm
TRU DAT
inner basin
Some details are also better, not discussed
lethal comet
i cound go into more detail it would probably make someone vomit but who cares because details are important
Getting GOT vibes
dense pulsar
I can understand wanting to keep things stable because theres still rebels but playing through Reach again, theres the crazy marine who never fathomed fighting aliens
inner basin
I think that was just an EE or callback to the crazy Marine in Halo CE, not canon
But I could be wrong
carmine sleet
How neat would it be if Thel Lodamee joined the banished and became one of the members of the Hand
Chimera, not gonna lie, I'd actually like to see that happen
inner basin
I mean seeing how 343 took some inspiration from The Package for Blue Team’s armour, I could 100% see it happening
It also wouldn’t be too jarring either, which makes it perfect
cedar surge
Six could have been replaced with a broom with a gun on a roomba and it wouldn't have made much of a difference
humble yacht
Unfortunately halo doesn’t have interesting enough melee combat for a duel between them
carmine sleet
That is true but maybe 'Lodamee will try something different in a fight against Chief this time round
round comet
How neat would it be if Thel Lodamee joined the banished and became one of the members of the Hand
dont see why he would...
humble yacht
He wasn’t portrayed as particularly devout
If other elites were willing to join Atriox, he could too
round comet
we also dont know what exactly the banished want.
humble yacht
They want power
carmine sleet
Knowing what the Banished want isn't important to whether or not 'Lodamee joined them
humble yacht
Atriox wanted a Halo and that’s why he went to the ark. Pretty underwhelming but what can you do
inner basin
I’d say ‘Lodamee would want a rematch against Chief and that’s his motivations for joining the Banished, but we don’t really know if he is alive in 2560
round comet
Knowing what the Banished want isn't important to whether or not 'Lodamee joined them
he will if he wants to see something happen, or if he believes in the same thing the banished do.
he wont randomly go there, right?
humble yacht
The only characterization of lodamee we really got was that he likes to fight and he has a high degree of honor
round comet
I’d say ‘Lodamee would want a rematch against Chief and that’s his motivations for joining the Banished, but we don’t really know if he is alive in 2560
imagine if they kill him off pre-infinite, he fanbase will be p angry.
especially if its off-screen.
sharp adder
Yeah like what they did with Jul
inner basin
He isn’t really an important character, so I don’t think people would care THAT much
carmine sleet
Jul was killed in a game, Blob, not before one
inner basin
It’d just be a missed opportunity if they don’t throw him in to get a rematch against Chief
round comet
The only characterization of lodamee we really got was that he likes to fight and he has a high degree of honor
yeah, but lets-destroy-humanity doesnt seem like something he'd want to do.
humble yacht
I’m not sure the majority of the fan base even know who lodamee is
He’s too obscure
inner basin
yeah, but lets-destroy-humanity doesnt seem like something he'd want to do.
Well he was apart of the Covenant. Loadamee this is
sharp adder
Yeah but i was actually exited about him being active characters through out 5 and infinite
humble yacht
So was Thel
carmine sleet
Having 'Lodamee appear would be a cool nod to the expanded universe but not one that is required
inner basin
So was Thel
That’s true but not all Elites let go of their Covenant ways
sharp adder
So was yap yap colonly decumis artoix
humble yacht
Sure not all elites renounced the faith
But many did
So while there’s no reason to say Lodamee wouldnt, there’s also no reason to say he would
round comet
okay, i guess i an see him joining but yep not really required
do we know if jega is an important character
inner basin
He seems to be from what we’ve seen
carmine sleet
Well, he was named
humble yacht
We know he’s a member of the Hand
But I don’t think he’ll be all that important
Likely 1-2 levels dedicated to him
carmine sleet
I really want to know more about the Hand of Atriox. When they formed, what their purpose within the Banished is, etc
humble yacht
Perhaps culminating in a boss battle
carmine sleet
Antagonist is the right word
humble yacht
The way they introduced the concept of the Hand makes me think Infinite will have systematic eradication of each Hand member by the Chief, ending with Escharum
humble yacht
I’m expecting the Hand to be comprised of four members since brutes have four fingers
inner basin
I mean the way they’re setting them up seems that way
humble yacht
But whether that will be the case is yet to be seen
If so that leaves two members unidentified
lethal comet
I don't think infinite will have 'levels' in the same sense as other halos
round comet
hyperius?
humble yacht
We don’t know if he’s real
inner basin
I mean he could be. But that’s only speculation
humble yacht
I think infinite will have levels
And that some will be open world levels like the demo
round comet
he has a halopedia page
inner basin
So we know two, speculated on one. Who would be the last one, if you were to guess/speculate. At least throw a species out
carmine sleet
Mega Construx sets aren't always accurate to the game they're related to
lethal comet
The demo had a separate difficulty and xp for each objective chimera
I wouldn't call it a level as a whole
humble yacht
Gears 5 had something similar
carmine sleet
They already said you choose the difficulty in the menu before you start playing as well
humble yacht
An open world level with a variety of objectives and rewards
round comet
So we know two, speculated on one. Who would be the last one, if you were to guess/speculate. At least throw a species out
i dont think the fourth would be on the ark with atriox, if my assumption (the banished on zeta halo arent the same group that was on the ark) is correct
maybe they all lead different groups
of the banished
with atriox as the ultimate leader
carmine sleet
I think it's pretty clear that the Banished in Infinite aren't the same group seen in HW2
round comet
yeah i know, but im still calling that an assumption.
lethal comet
maybe he really did
343 should have learned their lesson after what they did to the didact
round comet
i guess its just poor communication, or none at all.
carmine sleet
More likely they think Atriox is dead because they lost contact with the forces on the Ark when the Enduring Conviction was destroyed
round comet
makes sense.
will we see the banished in shadows of reach
considering that multiple groups of the banished led by different members of the hand of atriox is a possibility
unique rune
Pretty sure Infinite’s been stated to be the first time Chief’s encountered the Banished, so it seems unlikely to me
round comet
where has that been stated?
cedar surge
there are elite clans in the banished right? or are most of them just working for atriox
unique rune
I don’t recall where exactly, just something I remember reading at some point
I’d have to check
round comet
well, i dont think that has been stated anywhere.
there are elite clans in the banished right? or are most of them just working for atriox
we have elites in the whole thing
not sure about separate clans
unique rune
Ah ha. Found it.
https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/news/campaign-evolved
While Chief is no stranger to battling against Brutes, this is his first time facing the Banished and his most formidable opponent yet.
sharp adder
There are ekie clans t for the elites of the elites
round comet
i think thats talking about just the games, nova.
sharp adder
Yeah atrioxs would wreck chief as he took on red team
unique rune
It certainly could be just referring to the games, but there’s nothing to suggest it isn’t also talking about other media, as far as I can tell.
round comet
"But Reach has been invaded by a powerful and ruthless alien faction, who have their own reasons for being there. Establishing themselves as a vicious occupying force on the devastated planet, this enemy will soon transform Blue Team’s simple retrieval operation into a full-blown crisis."
official description of shadows.
yeah sounds pretty banished-y to me.
lethal comet
And chief already seems to know who the banished are in the trailer
humble yacht
the demo takes place like 1/3 of the way into the campaign or so
well after Chief has already been introduced to the banished in the game
round comet
they also just had a war there
lethal comet
I am dumb
humble yacht
well the unsc had a war there, whether chief participated is unknown
round comet
he was floating in space.
humble yacht
that'll depend on how Shadows of Reach ties in to Infinite
lethal comet
He was found in vacuum so I assume he was on infinity
humble yacht
it could be that at the end of SoR he makes his way to I07 and when he gets there, his vessel is beseiged by Banished fire, resulting in him floating in space
round comet
which is the sort of tie in we had with tfor and CE
lethal comet
I don't want blue team to die
cedar surge
The banished in the HW2 banished look more scrappy than the ones in infinite
Better engineers?
cedar surge
Yea the ones in infinite look like mass produced armor
I guess they got properly set up by then
You think Atriox is going to educate brutes?
So that they can be even better fighters?
lethal comet
Banished brutes seem a bit more civilised and disciplined than normal brutes
There isn't much in-fighting
versed helm
atriox would probably encourage them to use better tactics
cedar surge
he actively encourages power in the ranks
dawn needle
is the Imminent Helmet Sneeze Emergency Ejection canon?
is the Imminent Helmet Sneeze Emergency Ejection canon?
carmine sleet
Where were you looking to find that?
terse lava
I'm sorry the what??
cedar surge
is it a canon that ejects you when you are about to sneeze?
main siren
Just finished fractures. Loved the number of short stories just like I did with Evolutions
My favorite short stories at Fractures:
- Promises to Keep
- Shadow of Intent
- Epilogue
- Anarosa
- Saint's Testimony
So I have Envoy, Smoke and Shadow, and Renegades left to read
cedar surge
do you mean: Sadies Testimony?
inner basin
My favourite stories in Fractures are Lessons Learned, Breaking Strain, Shadow of Intent, The Ballad of Hamish Beamish and a Necessary Truth
do you mean: Sadies Testimony?
No, it’s Saint’s Testimony
cedar surge
i don't like how the librainian looks in escalations
if it wasn't for the nose she would look nearly human
also how many short story books are there?
inner basin
13 titled and 1 untitled story, bringing it to 14 total
cedar surge
why ne untitled?
inner basin
Idrk tbh
last anchor
Which ones the untitled story?
inner basin
It’s the one that features the IsoDidact and Chant-to-green and their ultimate fates post-firing of the array
cedar surge
welp
looks like installing forerunner engines ontot the infinit was not a goood idea
gilded mason
No kiddin'? lol
cedar surge
because suddenly jul has a artifact that can control the engines
and a enemy faction able to control where your ship goes is apprently bad
if only someone saw this coming
gilded mason
If only
inner basin
That's a fair point
gilded mason
He's smarter than the average bear
inner basin
The way he died to Locke was so stupid though, at least the choreography was. Lemme just wave my arm about, maybe I'll hit him with my energy sword
gilded mason
Yeah, he had good potential that was squandered really badly
humble yacht
Well he was not a celebrated warrior
inner basin
I still don't really think there is any strong argument to defend anything that happened in that cutscene. There are so MANY things that happened that are wrong or shouldn't of happened
gilded mason
Even Grim seemed upset by it.
humble yacht
I never found jul all that compelling
On one hand, he was smart enough to manipulate a large group of sangheili to follow him
On the other hand, they were dumb enough to believe him
gilded mason
I liked where his storyline seemed like it was going. And I had hope for his potential.
inner basin
... Then Halo 5 happened
And while I did like some concepts for the story such as the AI uprising and the Guardians, it all fell flat on it's face
humble yacht
For a guy who was obsessed with the downfall of the UNSC, it seems odd that he did not accompany Didact to earth to watch him beat them
You’d think getting a front row seat to that would be like Christmas morning for jul
inner basin
Could be a minor oversight or it was done on purpose for Spartan Ops?
cedar surge
Well the unsc still has billions of other people on other colonies. So it would necessarily mean the end of the unsc
Billions of people spread over other colonies
Earth has 7 billion with
9 billion in other colonies
inner basin
Yeah, but Earth has the greatest population of humanity on a single planet
Kinda makes your point null tbh
stiff creek
Actually, now that Mr. Person brings it up, what does happen if you sneeze in MJOLNIR?
versed helm
Hmm, which is typically stronger than the other, a Spartan 2 or a Brute?
humble yacht
brute
stiff creek
Brute.
humble yacht
if you're talking just raw strength, like who can bench more, def brute
versed helm
Interesting, thanks for the response.
stiff creek
How powerful is a Spartans sneeze?
humble yacht
depends on how much the spartans' diaphragm was augmented
ornate sierra
why would the augment the diaphram
ornate sierra
they are people so of coarse
stiff creek
Que Halo 4's opening.
west silo
I have a question
stiff creek
Shoot.
west silo
How did cortana get a fragement of herself onto the ship in halo 3?
west silo
And how did she know it would even make it pass the elites quarantine zone
stiff creek
Probably didn't.
west silo
How did she even get a recording on the ship she was in a chamber in a room
Right in front of the gravemind
humble yacht
the gravemind let her send it
west silo
Eh I can see it
stiff creek
And it's not like he can stop her from doing techy stuff. Not really, anyvay.
west silo
Yes he almost killed her in human weakness
She had to bluff him by attending to commit ai suicide just for him to back off
stiff creek
Living, and doing techy things as an AI are different in my opinion.
west silo
It was working
humble yacht
the gravemind knew she was doing something, she even said so
and the flood does have the ability to interface with computer systems
west silo
She couldn't fight back
west silo
For a bit
stiff creek
Chad Soldier.
humble yacht
she resisted, yes
gritty siren
we dont know how long
humble yacht
but as she said, for a moment of relief, she loosed damnation on the stars
gritty siren
we do know she resisted
west silo
She described it like fighting blind in a fog
gritty siren
honestly the logic plauge theroy is nonsensical
stiff creek
It is quite funky.
humble yacht
the logic plague in general is non sensical
west silo
I like it it reminds me of the beast
gritty siren
oh yeah
stiff creek
Mendicant B-word.
gritty siren
mendicant bias
west silo
Or the blight
humble yacht
nah, that story was better when Mendicant Bias chose the flood on his own, not because of a computer virus
west silo
Mendicent is the only ai that chose to betray the forerunners
humble yacht
in the final terminal, MB said that his greatest weakness was his capacity to choose the flood.
Offensive Bias, on the other hand, was not created with such creative capacity
west silo
In human weakness the gravemind said it brought him near its death bed and it chose the flood to survive
gritty siren
anyway do yall think that the flood is going to be in halo infinite
stiff creek
In some way, but I don't think they will be present as an enemy.