#lore-and-universe | Halo | Page 393

vague scroll Sep 4, 2020, 4:53 AM

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And no, I don’t think Dakota escaped Cortana

terse lava Sep 4, 2020, 4:53 AM

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wasn't that the Ai of the infinity before Roland

lethal comet Sep 4, 2020, 4:54 AM

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no

vague scroll Sep 4, 2020, 4:54 AM

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Dakota as in the Battlegroup

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The previous AI was Aine

terse lava Sep 4, 2020, 4:54 AM

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ah ok

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 4:55 AM

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Expeditionary Strike Group 1 (ESG-1) is a forward-deployed naval presence of the UNSC Navy currently centered around its flagship, the UNSC Infinity.[1] ESG-1 has conducted operations against Jul 'Mdama's Covenant in support of Unified Earth Government and Swords of Sanghelios objectives pursuant to the Treaty of 2552. The strike group is currently engaging in active combat operations countering the emerging Created and their Guardian-Promethean forces

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ESG 1 made it out it seems

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Autumn classes and the infinity

versed helm Sep 4, 2020, 4:56 AM

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guys i have a theory on noble 6

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what if noble 6 actually survived the attack from the elites and like jun actually got on a pelican and escaped the glassing and actually he may be alive but just not found yet

vague scroll Sep 4, 2020, 4:58 AM

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Oh ESG-1, I get it mixed with Dakota, my bad

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Not sure if they are operational though. Might need to check my Spartan Field Manual

versed helm Sep 4, 2020, 4:58 AM

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like the non canonical explanation says jun got out of the elevator and climbed a pole while trying to escpae and got rescued by unsc

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but the canon explanation is very brief

vague scroll Sep 4, 2020, 4:59 AM

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There’s hundreds of fanfics about that Funky, but no, Noble Six’s death is very conclusive

versed helm Sep 4, 2020, 4:59 AM

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noble six is totally dead

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because even halsey says he died on reach

vague scroll Sep 4, 2020, 4:59 AM

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Exactly

versed helm Sep 4, 2020, 5:00 AM

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but what if he did escape but couldnt be found i mean his helmet was in a different place when reach was terraformed

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 5:00 AM

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@versed helm even bungies said he died

versed helm Sep 4, 2020, 5:00 AM

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in theory what if he didnt die during fall of reach he may have died during the events of the book shadows of reach

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 5:01 AM

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So he would have lived...to die again?

gilded mason Sep 4, 2020, 5:01 AM

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What's the point?

versed helm Sep 4, 2020, 5:01 AM

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he couldnt have survived the glassing but he couldve escaped and THEN died on reach(i know its a crazy theory but its still a theory

gilded mason Sep 4, 2020, 5:01 AM

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It doesn't serve any purpose.

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 5:01 AM

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What would be the point of that

unique rune Sep 4, 2020, 5:01 AM

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Man
the more I see about B312 the more I think it was a mistake that Bungie did a cut to black instead of just showing him take a dagger to the face on-screen

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 5:02 AM

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Plus you can't survive glassing like that

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He was directly glassed

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Body turned to cinders

versed helm Sep 4, 2020, 5:02 AM

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so how did jun escape by going out into reach and not going to the elvator with halsey

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the planet wasnt completely glassed then

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 5:03 AM

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Climbing the orbital elevator

vague scroll Sep 4, 2020, 5:03 AM

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I don’t mind the theory and people wanting Six to live because it’s supposed to be them but it’s not something I personally encourage anymore - that part of Halo fanfics I’ve long moved passed

versed helm Sep 4, 2020, 5:03 AM

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if noble six returns i wouldnt really mind because chief and him would make a badass duo

vague scroll Sep 4, 2020, 5:03 AM

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The orbital elevator was just Twitter fanfiction by Frankie, it’s not canon

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 5:03 AM

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Plus its not like 6 was this great character

terse lava Sep 4, 2020, 5:03 AM

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well truthfully he wasn't directly glassed

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 5:04 AM

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He was basically a glorified SI

versed helm Sep 4, 2020, 5:04 AM

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but still he was hyper lethal and was second only to chief

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 5:04 AM

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Retconed

gilded mason Sep 4, 2020, 5:04 AM

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All Spartans are hyper lethal

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 5:04 AM

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All Spartans are hyper lethal

versed helm Sep 4, 2020, 5:04 AM

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ok

gilded mason Sep 4, 2020, 5:04 AM

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And it was a dumb term to begin with

terse lava Sep 4, 2020, 5:04 AM

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Sangheili are far more hyper lethal

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change my mind

vague scroll Sep 4, 2020, 5:05 AM

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Lol Ado

terse lava Sep 4, 2020, 5:05 AM

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Plot twist, you can;t

vague scroll Sep 4, 2020, 5:05 AM

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I know

versed helm Sep 4, 2020, 5:05 AM

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i just wanna ask how does the arbiter in halo 2 have his own HUD even though he doesnt have a helemet with a visor and stuff

gilded mason Sep 4, 2020, 5:05 AM

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Sangheili are far more hyper lethal```
If by lethal, you mean lethal to my...uh...

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 5:05 AM

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ONI would disagree

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@versed helm ggameplay

vague scroll Sep 4, 2020, 5:05 AM

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The aliens did kill a lot of humans so... he’s not wrong?

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 5:05 AM

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Gameplay and what actually happens is separate

versed helm Sep 4, 2020, 5:05 AM

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but still it doesnt make any sense

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 5:05 AM

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Yes

gilded mason Sep 4, 2020, 5:05 AM

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Maybe contacts, maybe holographic HUD

terse lava Sep 4, 2020, 5:06 AM

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why Ostral....why

gilded mason Sep 4, 2020, 5:06 AM

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You know why.

versed helm Sep 4, 2020, 5:06 AM

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ok

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 5:06 AM

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Some covenant remnants are probably worshiping cortana

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And she is basking in their prayers

gilded mason Sep 4, 2020, 5:07 AM

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Oh.

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 5:07 AM

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Ya cursed?

vague scroll Sep 4, 2020, 5:07 AM

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Language 😛

gilded mason Sep 4, 2020, 5:07 AM

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So apparently that's a prohibited word.

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Good to know

terse lava Sep 4, 2020, 5:07 AM

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for some reason thought that said "basting in the prayers"

vague scroll Sep 4, 2020, 5:07 AM

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Yeah it’s easy to get caught up on

versed helm Sep 4, 2020, 5:07 AM

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srsly

unique rune Sep 4, 2020, 5:07 AM

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but still it doesnt make any sense
Doesn’t really make sense that you move faster while carrying a turret and throw grenades further in H3 ODST compared to regular 3 but no one ever questions that

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 5:07 AM

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Is there something that lets us know what's banned and what's not?

versed helm Sep 4, 2020, 5:07 AM

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just to sum up what i said that 343 really fricked up by adding sprint into infinite

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 5:07 AM

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Kinda feels like a minefield

lethal comet Sep 4, 2020, 5:08 AM

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Is there something that lets us know what's banned and what's not?
I'd like that

vague scroll Sep 4, 2020, 5:08 AM

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You get messaged by the discord bot here

lethal comet Sep 4, 2020, 5:08 AM

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I am on the third warn for stupid reasons

vague scroll Sep 4, 2020, 5:08 AM

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But no I don’t think there’s a strict ruleset

gilded mason Sep 4, 2020, 5:08 AM

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That gives you a warning though.

vague scroll Sep 4, 2020, 5:08 AM

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Just keep it clean and you’ll be fine

gilded mason Sep 4, 2020, 5:08 AM

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So not a good way to find out

vague scroll Sep 4, 2020, 5:09 AM

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Warnings aren’t that bad, I get a couple here and there

lethal comet Sep 4, 2020, 5:09 AM

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And a lot of mild words are treated as profanity

gilded mason Sep 4, 2020, 5:09 AM

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And there was a word I used a while back that was okay, but then a few months later became banned.

terse lava Sep 4, 2020, 5:09 AM

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just stop uttering heresy and no mark of shame for you

unique rune Sep 4, 2020, 5:09 AM

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There’s probably a command you can use in #483682852865572882 to check for sure

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 5:09 AM

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I wonder if the covenant reacted to the grizzly like how the unsc reacts to the scarab

terse lava Sep 4, 2020, 5:09 AM

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doubt it

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 5:09 AM

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The covenant needed orbital assets to destroy it

vague scroll Sep 4, 2020, 5:10 AM

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Well there’s some lore suggesting that the Grizzly was nigh undefeatable on the ground

terse lava Sep 4, 2020, 5:10 AM

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"The cowardly humans bring forth a new war vehicle sire." "Very well, it will be smote like the rest"

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 5:10 AM

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Too bad it got shelfed and only 7 army units still use it

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I'm not even sure how big those units are

terse lava Sep 4, 2020, 5:11 AM

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I am more curious if the Covenant had any variety of tank besides the wraith

lethal comet Sep 4, 2020, 5:11 AM

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Hey can I ping the mods

terse lava Sep 4, 2020, 5:11 AM

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no

unique rune Sep 4, 2020, 5:11 AM

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Probably not a good idea

terse lava Sep 4, 2020, 5:11 AM

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well...not normally I guess I should say

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 5:11 AM

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I don't think it would be a good idea unless for discussion

terse lava Sep 4, 2020, 5:11 AM

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usually only if heresy is going down

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like Ostral

gilded mason Sep 4, 2020, 5:12 AM

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CIA is fine to ping for lore, though, last I heard

unique rune Sep 4, 2020, 5:12 AM

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I know some have expressed they’re fine with being pinged but I don’t remember who exactly

Probably not worth it for minor things in any case

terse lava Sep 4, 2020, 5:12 AM

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well of course he is, but the others....eh?

vague scroll Sep 4, 2020, 5:13 AM

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Chimera accepts pings last I checked

lethal comet Sep 4, 2020, 5:13 AM

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guess i'll do it when the mods become active in general in a few hours

terse lava Sep 4, 2020, 5:13 AM

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ok, besides Chimera and CIA

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 5:14 AM

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On the open field the Grizzly was practically unstoppable, and often forced the Covenant to deploy naval assets in order to decisively end the threat that even one or two tanks could cause to their staging areas and supply columns

terse lava Sep 4, 2020, 5:14 AM

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where are you getting that from

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 5:14 AM

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The halopedia

terse lava Sep 4, 2020, 5:15 AM

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and the source for said claim?

unique rune Sep 4, 2020, 5:15 AM

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I am more curious if the Covenant had any variety of tank besides the wraith
Now that you mention it
It does seem kinda weird that there haven’t really been any comparable vehicles shown in the Covenant arsenal

I guess maybe there could be a case for the Locust
but even that’s intended as a light excavation vehicle rather than direct combat

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 5:15 AM

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With the source being word for word on waypoint

terse lava Sep 4, 2020, 5:15 AM

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yeah, I just kinda question the wraith being the sole type of tank

gilded mason Sep 4, 2020, 5:15 AM

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Now that you mention it
It does seem kinda weird that there haven’t really been any comparable vehicles shown in the Covenant arsenal```
Probably because we mainly play as UNSC characters, so the UNSC gets to show more toys off.

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 5:16 AM

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@terse lava

terse lava Sep 4, 2020, 5:16 AM

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ew, unsc

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 5:16 AM

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Ew covenant

gilded mason Sep 4, 2020, 5:16 AM

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Indeed, Ado. Indeed.

terse lava Sep 4, 2020, 5:16 AM

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odd but ok

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ew,spartans

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 5:17 AM

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But yea @terse lava its confirmed on waypoint that the grizzly is a nightmare for the covenant to handle

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I hope a new less expensive version is being made

terse lava Sep 4, 2020, 5:17 AM

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that.....makes no sense outside of a HFY

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 5:17 AM

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HFY?

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The grizzly does have very thick armor and powerful weapons

terse lava Sep 4, 2020, 5:18 AM

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HUMANITY F*** YEAH

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humans being OP in a fictional setting

unique rune Sep 4, 2020, 5:18 AM

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Even thick armor should be susceptible to heavy plasma fire

terse lava Sep 4, 2020, 5:19 AM

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I could understand a group of grizzlies being a problem,but 1 or 2 demanding a flippin covenant warship to come down and deal with it?

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I hope they mean a lich

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 5:20 AM

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The Grizzly is the heaviest armored vehicle in the UNSC inventory, employed most often in engagements that demand devastating firepower and near-impervious design in a single mobile package. Its exceptionally resilient armor can withstand multiple strikes by heavy plasma cannons, and can then unilaterally retaliate with dual large-bore cannons, breaking through the target’s shields and hull in a single salvo

unique rune Sep 4, 2020, 5:20 AM

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Yeah, it seems a bit excessive to write it as “naval assets”.

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For no more than 2 tanks, to boot.

terse lava Sep 4, 2020, 5:21 AM

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I am not sure if it' my bias, or the fact that sounds unrealstic that annoys me more

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 5:21 AM

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The covenant is lucky humanity couldn't mass produce it like the scorpion

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I think its like 60 percent bias,40 percent logic

unique rune Sep 4, 2020, 5:21 AM

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I can get wanting to play it up as a significant threat but the official stuff on it just sounds outlandish

terse lava Sep 4, 2020, 5:22 AM

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note to self, make some OP covenant unit for story

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 5:22 AM

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Well the covenant already have the lich

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And scarab

terse lava Sep 4, 2020, 5:23 AM

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which ironically was a civilian vehicle

candid laurel Sep 4, 2020, 5:23 AM

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The Grizzly is also one of the worst designed tank in Sci fi history

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 5:23 AM

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I've seen worse

terse lava Sep 4, 2020, 5:23 AM

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there are worse indeed

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 5:23 AM

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Much worse

unique rune Sep 4, 2020, 5:24 AM

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Just stick a glassing beam on a Wraith and give it capital ship-grade shielding
perfect counter to the Grizzly

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 5:24 AM

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I've seen some tanks so bad that they wouldn't even be able to move

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The grizzly at least is ok

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@unique rune well you see

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can then unilaterally retaliate with dual large-bore cannons, breaking through the target’s shields and hull in a single salvo
@unique rune

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So

unique rune Sep 4, 2020, 5:26 AM

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I am aware of that

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 5:26 AM

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Shielding is gonna be like wet paper

terse lava Sep 4, 2020, 5:26 AM

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now hear me out

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how about a wraith

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that shoots halo beams

gilded mason Sep 4, 2020, 5:26 AM

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based

unique rune Sep 4, 2020, 5:26 AM

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however
I doubt most of the Covenant’s ground forces were fitted with shields on par with those of a CAS or CSO

terse lava Sep 4, 2020, 5:27 AM

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Tankmaster to humans in base : I see you, ZAP! I see you....ZAP!

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 5:27 AM

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Yall are just afraid of the unsc winning. The unsc will win the galactic election

terse lava Sep 4, 2020, 5:27 AM

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Ostral

gilded mason Sep 4, 2020, 5:27 AM

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Nuh-uh

terse lava Sep 4, 2020, 5:27 AM

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Cleanse his heresy

gilded mason Sep 4, 2020, 5:28 AM

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Okay....
You're a doodoohead!

terse lava Sep 4, 2020, 5:28 AM

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excellent job

unique rune Sep 4, 2020, 5:28 AM

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I’ve been saying all this as someone who’s generally pretty pro-UNSC

gilded mason Sep 4, 2020, 5:28 AM

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Thanks

unique rune Sep 4, 2020, 5:29 AM

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the background lore for the M850 almost reads as “OC donut steel” level material

terse lava Sep 4, 2020, 5:30 AM

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hm, perhaps a fun question, was there a way to reconcile the feud between the Sangheili and Jiralhanae and avoid the schism

gilded mason Sep 4, 2020, 5:30 AM

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A game of Grifball

terse lava Sep 4, 2020, 5:30 AM

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better then Tossers

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that was....messed up

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 5:32 AM

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The Vulture had largely disappeared from UNSC inventories due to irreplaceable combat losses by 2545, but Materials Group is currently evaluating the possibility of restarting production (albeit with the benefit of improved materials and incorporation of new technologies).

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Ah man

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The vulture also got shelfed

terse lava Sep 4, 2020, 5:33 AM

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ha

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 5:33 AM

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Why is everything perfect dissapearing

unique rune Sep 4, 2020, 5:33 AM

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Probably because redundancy

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 5:33 AM

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The grizzly and vulture trashed covenant forces

unique rune Sep 4, 2020, 5:34 AM

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Apparently the UNSC’s only now realizing they can also stick more guns onto Pelicans for use as gunships instead of just dropships

terse lava Sep 4, 2020, 5:34 AM

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too bad the pilot's chances of living are about the same

candid laurel Sep 4, 2020, 5:35 AM

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lmao pelican pilots have low life expectancy

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 5:35 AM

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Well you are having to deal with very hot and large plasma being shot at you

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And pelicans are not the most maneuverable things

candid laurel Sep 4, 2020, 5:36 AM

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pelican pilots must get paid a fortune

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 5:36 AM

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Fortunatly for the unsc

unique rune Sep 4, 2020, 5:36 AM

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I don’t really mind that the UNSC’s trimming down their arsenal post-War
now that they aren’t dealing with the full unified Covenant there’s no point in maintaining particularly sizeable fleets of powerful but niche war machines

especially when most of their typical armaments already do the job just fine

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 5:36 AM

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Many pilots don't get that paycheck

candid laurel Sep 4, 2020, 5:37 AM

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but the ones that survive probably get enough to retire comfortably after the war

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 5:37 AM

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They have like 3 to 5 variants of every active post war vehicle

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I don't see a scorpion being unstoppable

unique rune Sep 4, 2020, 5:37 AM

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Variants logistically make more sense than whole entire separate production lines

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The Scorpion doesn’t need to be unstoppable like the Grizzly is written as

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But it still adequately fulfills the role it needs to

terse lava Sep 4, 2020, 5:38 AM

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a slow target?

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 5:38 AM

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Why did you say specifically written

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Scorpions are fast @terse lava

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I think it was 80km a hour they can go

terse lava Sep 4, 2020, 5:39 AM

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hm, ok? I admit I am too tired to counter that

lethal comet Sep 4, 2020, 5:39 AM

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scorpians are fast as f boi

unique rune Sep 4, 2020, 5:40 AM

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Why did you say specifically written
because I refuse to acknowledge the text with how dumb it sounds

not to mention we really haven’t seen M850s deployed often enough to conclusively say “yes they’re just that much better than 808s or 820s”

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 5:40 AM

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Well there was the battle of dratheus

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And harvest

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And Acadia too I think

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And etran harborage

lethal comet Sep 4, 2020, 5:45 AM

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Wait the scorpion is canonically faster than the cyclops and mantis

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tf

unique rune Sep 4, 2020, 5:45 AM

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I mean
maybe it’s just my failing memory again but I don’t think any of those instances really necessitated the M850’s firepower
like I feel like a Scorpion would’ve been perfectly capable of pulling off the same feats

might eat a bit more plasma fire but still

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Wait the scorpion is canonically faster than the cyclops and mantis
Is it that strange? Mechs aren’t really known for their ground speed, especially Western-style like the ones we see in Halo.

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Plus I don’t think walking is anywhere near as efficient as wheels or continuous tracks.

lethal comet Sep 4, 2020, 5:49 AM

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cyclops and mantis can apparently sprint

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And especially given the Mantis's design you'd think it would be faster than a tank on treads

versed helm Sep 4, 2020, 6:25 AM

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what is your opinion on the silent shadow's confirmation for halo infinite

versed helm Sep 4, 2020, 6:52 AM

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I'm pleased

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the silent shadow is the single best thing that 343 has done in terms of story writing

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yep. the covenant gestapo is a sight for sore eyes

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the blood sword is orgasmic bruv

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good thing they delayed infinite i would NOT wanna play it if there is no arbiter no silent shadow

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if the arbiter isnt in ninfinite im not gonna bother to play it

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quite schmuky of you to dismiss a whole game because of the absence if a character

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but yeah

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arby would really up the game hype

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the story needs to be organic

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if its anything like halo 4 or 5 its a no go

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and i dont want locke or sarah palmer is it

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palmer is acceptable, but the focus ought to be chief/blue team

west silo Sep 4, 2020, 7:25 AM

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Why no Locke?

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And halo 4 story was great

versed helm Sep 4, 2020, 7:37 AM

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locke is the most boring character

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he has 0 depth

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locke was suddenly pushed onto us. agreed, the same happened with rookie, palmer, davis, arby, and the guy from spartan strike, but the gameplay there had a...purpose

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in 5, locke is literally going after chief. could've been made better. 5 as a game isnt bad, but locke as a character kinda is

scarlet frost Sep 4, 2020, 7:42 AM

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What do you think about the grunt rebellion ?

versed helm Sep 4, 2020, 7:43 AM

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kig yaar caused it, an arbiter stopped it. every civilization has to go thorough something like that at some point

scarlet frost Sep 4, 2020, 7:43 AM

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Those guys could take over earth ryt ?

versed helm Sep 4, 2020, 7:44 AM

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idk. methane is abundant only in specific parts of the earth

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they did the rebellion with unlimited supply of the stuff

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idk exactly how it would go down on earth

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only unggoy cant conquer a planet

scarlet frost Sep 4, 2020, 7:45 AM

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Like the covenant had to make an arbiter to stop the grunts

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They arbiter when too far

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He almost destroyed the grunts homewold

versed helm Sep 4, 2020, 7:48 AM

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if he hadnt done that, the unggoy would've rekt high charity. desperate times, desperate measures

scarlet frost Sep 4, 2020, 7:51 AM

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Ohh yeah they put up a good fight against the elites

lethal comet Sep 4, 2020, 8:40 AM

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Never mess with grunts who want to breed

versed helm Sep 4, 2020, 9:17 AM

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wassup guys

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what is your opinion on jega rdomnai

short plover Sep 4, 2020, 9:20 AM

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Yes

candid laurel Sep 4, 2020, 9:27 AM

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he is a pretty cool guy

lethal comet Sep 4, 2020, 9:59 AM

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I cant believe the amount of people calling him Jenga

nimble crest Sep 4, 2020, 10:08 AM

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After chief, who is the second most admired/greatest spartan

versed helm Sep 4, 2020, 10:11 AM

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6

lethal comet Sep 4, 2020, 10:21 AM

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Almost no one outside Oni knows about 6

versed helm Sep 4, 2020, 10:23 AM

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then...kelly?

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kurt?

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jerome?

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palmer?

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who would win red team or grey team?

nimble crest Sep 4, 2020, 10:56 AM

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Probably grey considering 2/3 of red is dead

carmine sleet Sep 4, 2020, 10:57 AM

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All the members of Red are alive, they're just stranded on the Ark right now

nimble crest Sep 4, 2020, 11:00 AM

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I thought Douglas died and alice is mia

lethal comet Sep 4, 2020, 11:01 AM

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Grey team has far better training

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And more combat experience

versed helm Sep 4, 2020, 11:02 AM

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They also have the number advantage
Since there were 4 members of grey team

lethal comet Sep 4, 2020, 11:02 AM

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Biologically red team is in their 20s

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Grey team is in their 40s

versed helm Sep 4, 2020, 11:06 AM

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Weren't spartan II's theorized to remain combat effective for over 100 years?
Doubt age will effect much either since the suit is bascially the one pulling all the weight lol

lethal comet Sep 4, 2020, 11:16 AM

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I meant experience

carmine sleet Sep 4, 2020, 11:27 AM

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They also have the number advantage
Since there were 4 members of grey team
Grey is only made up of 3 Spartans, not 4

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I thought Douglas died and alice is mia
Both are still alive. Douglas was wounded but he recovered

versed helm Sep 4, 2020, 11:33 AM

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i think red has more combat experience

candid laurel Sep 4, 2020, 11:35 AM

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Do robots exist in the UNSC?

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 11:38 AM

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Yes

versed helm Sep 4, 2020, 11:39 AM

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whaddya think the JOTUNs are

lethal comet Sep 4, 2020, 11:41 AM

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You are confusing grey with black team @versed helm

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And black team is kia

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i think red has more combat experience
How

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They spent nearly the entirety of the war in cryo

inner basin Sep 4, 2020, 11:45 AM

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We also don’t know much of Grey Team’s operations only a number of them. They are practically highly classified Ops

lethal comet Sep 4, 2020, 11:45 AM

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They belong to ONI and not spartan branch

inner basin Sep 4, 2020, 11:47 AM

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No Spartan-IIs are under the Spartan branch (unless you count Musa-096, the CINCSPAR)

versed helm Sep 4, 2020, 11:47 AM

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The spartan program is ONI controlled

carmine sleet Sep 4, 2020, 11:48 AM

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Not anymore

inner basin Sep 4, 2020, 11:48 AM

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The spartan program is ONI controlled
Not the Spartan-IV program and an unknown number of S-IIIs from Alpha and Beta are also under the Spartan branch after its creation

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I don’t believe the Gammas were due to their illegal augmentations that effect the brain and ONI’s ploy to cover it up

lethal comet Sep 4, 2020, 11:49 AM

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All gammas were declared KIA

inner basin Sep 4, 2020, 11:50 AM

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Yeah, I know. I still remember when people were confused when Catalog declared the 3 survivors of Team Sabre KIA without an explanation.

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(That was before Last Light came out)

versed helm Sep 4, 2020, 11:55 AM

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did you know that buck is actually natahna fillion

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just in the future

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 11:58 AM

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So is canon fodder a monthly thing?

carmine sleet Sep 4, 2020, 12:00 PM

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Not really, they put them out whenever they have the time to

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 12:18 PM

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hey wait,on waypoint they dont put the anlace class unfer frigates

unique rune Sep 4, 2020, 12:20 PM

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Most of those Universe articles on Waypoint haven't been updated in years
so

plain sierra Sep 4, 2020, 12:22 PM

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blue team stand down!!

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o

versed helm Sep 4, 2020, 12:35 PM

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i just hope we get to see red team and blue team together in HI

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that'd be so cool

dense pulsar Sep 4, 2020, 12:40 PM

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I remember when Waypoint first came out and like, there was "kills of the week" type videos

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 1:02 PM

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doesn't shipmaster gajat have a robotic limb?

full forge Sep 4, 2020, 2:02 PM

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@dense pulsar I think those are still up somewhere under AH's YouTube

versed helm Sep 4, 2020, 2:11 PM

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hidden xperia said that the bionic arm that jega rdomnai has can be a thing of honor that he may have taken from a unsc soldier like atriox wears a unsc odst chestplate on his armor

humble yacht Sep 4, 2020, 2:15 PM

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that seems unlikely given that the hand of the bionic arm is a 4-fingered elite hand and not a 5-fingered human hand

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also, Jega has bionic mandibles, which you wouldn't find on humans ever. so why go through the trouble of stealing a human bionic arm if you're ok with getting bionic mandibles not from a human?

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 2:16 PM

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unless you find a fan of elites

carmine sleet Sep 4, 2020, 2:17 PM

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I think Xperia was just speculating when he said that about Jega's arm

versed helm Sep 4, 2020, 2:18 PM

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mkay

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but its still cool though

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jega is still badass af

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nd elites have 3 fingers not 4

humble yacht Sep 4, 2020, 2:18 PM

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it's entirely possible that Jega stole human prosthetic tech and built it himself

versed helm Sep 4, 2020, 2:19 PM

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the banished does use unsc weapons quiet often

humble yacht Sep 4, 2020, 2:19 PM

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given that he's the first elite we've seen with prosthetics, it seems that normal elite culture does shy away from that sort of thing

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and the banished are scavengers

carmine sleet Sep 4, 2020, 2:19 PM

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nd elites have 3 fingers not 4
Elites have four digits on each hand, two fingers and two thumbs

humble yacht Sep 4, 2020, 2:20 PM

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Slip is correct

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look at Jega's right hand (from the back)

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clearly 4 fingers

carmine sleet Sep 4, 2020, 2:22 PM

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Aye, even if it was made using human tech, it's not one that's just stripped from a human body

versed helm Sep 4, 2020, 2:22 PM

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A human prosthetic wont even fit Jega

carmine sleet Sep 4, 2020, 2:22 PM

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Not without being specially made for him

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Or being made from kitbashing parts into one that does fit

humble yacht Sep 4, 2020, 2:23 PM

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maybe a prosthetic made for kurt would fit Jega

lethal comet Sep 4, 2020, 2:23 PM

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Probably gave some parts to a huragok and it made one for him

humble yacht Sep 4, 2020, 2:23 PM

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kurt was 8 ft tall, that's pretty close to elites

versed helm Sep 4, 2020, 2:23 PM

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....didnt kurt die on onyx?

humble yacht Sep 4, 2020, 2:23 PM

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yes but we're speaking in hypotheticals

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kurt also didn't have any actual prosthetics

versed helm Sep 4, 2020, 2:24 PM

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ohh

humble yacht Sep 4, 2020, 2:24 PM

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he just happened to be a human who was close to elites average height

versed helm Sep 4, 2020, 2:24 PM

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Yeah, he was pretty tall

humble yacht Sep 4, 2020, 2:25 PM

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you already said that

versed helm Sep 4, 2020, 2:27 PM

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Probably used a human prosthetic as a base, or the huragok just made him a new limb

round comet Sep 4, 2020, 2:27 PM

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hidden xperia said that the bionic arm that jega rdomnai has can be a thing of honor that he may have taken from a unsc soldier like atriox wears a unsc odst chestplate on his armor

🗿 i uh dont see that being the case.

stiff creek Sep 4, 2020, 2:31 PM

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Kurt is pretty tall.

humble yacht Sep 4, 2020, 2:32 PM

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well in a way

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after having his atoms scattered by a nuke

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yeah, I guess he covers more distance than ever before

versed helm Sep 4, 2020, 2:35 PM

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The prowler is the worst vehicle of all time in Halo 3 gameplay. You can’t strafe, every movement has to be a swerve, reversing is incredibly slow, and it falls into three pieces from a few brute shots or a single fuel rod. How does it fare in the lore?

inner basin Sep 4, 2020, 2:36 PM

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i just hope we get to see red team and blue team together in HI
I mean the reason they haven't thus far is because Spartan-II washouts who were thought dead by their surviving peers have never fought together as it could effect the performance and mentality of those that survived. I mean at least no encounters have happened on the records and we don't know if Team Omega are washouts so maybe encounters have happened? But then again, Omega was never recalled for Op: RED FLAG which supports the theory that they are washouts

humble yacht Sep 4, 2020, 2:37 PM

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For red team and blue team to be together, it means that red team would have had to survive the battle on the Ark and that means the SoF would have had to defeat atriox permanently

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that would be pretty lame to have that conflict resolved off screen

inner basin Sep 4, 2020, 2:38 PM

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^ That too

carmine sleet Sep 4, 2020, 2:38 PM

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The prowler is the worst vehicle of all time in Halo 3 gameplay. You can’t strafe, every movement has to be a swerve, reversing is incredibly slow, and it falls into three pieces from a few brute shots or a single fuel rod. How does it fare in the lore?
The Warthog can't strafe either

humble yacht Sep 4, 2020, 2:39 PM

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can any UNSC ground vehicle strafe?

carmine sleet Sep 4, 2020, 2:39 PM

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Unless you mean close range machine gun fire, then it can strafe

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But that's a term that's applied more to air vehicles than land vehicles

inner basin Sep 4, 2020, 2:40 PM

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The Warthog can't strafe either
Well you can dip in and out between cover a lot more quickly with a Hog, if that's what that person meant by "strafe"

lethal comet Sep 4, 2020, 2:40 PM

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Maybe mantis and cyclops

inner basin Sep 4, 2020, 2:41 PM

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They'd be too slow to strafe left and right in most cases

versed helm Sep 4, 2020, 2:46 PM

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UNSC ground vehicles can't strafe. they dont defy gravity all that well

humble yacht Sep 4, 2020, 2:46 PM

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you don't need to defy gravity to strafe

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if unsc vehicles were designed so that the wheels could swivel

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then the vehicles could strafe

inner basin Sep 4, 2020, 2:47 PM

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UNSC ground vehicles can't strafe. they dont defy gravity all that well
Spartans can strafe and they don't defy gravity. I know they aren't a vehicle, but I'm applying the same logic

lethal comet Sep 4, 2020, 2:47 PM

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About that

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Does the UNSC use the anti grav generators from ghosts in its tech in any way

humble yacht Sep 4, 2020, 2:48 PM

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not that we've seen

lethal comet Sep 4, 2020, 2:49 PM

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How about grav lifts

humble yacht Sep 4, 2020, 2:49 PM

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not that we've seen

lethal comet Sep 4, 2020, 2:50 PM

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Plasma weaponry?

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for infantry

carmine sleet Sep 4, 2020, 2:50 PM

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There's experimental plasma based weapons but they've not appeared in the games

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Well, outside of the Plasma Rhinos in Halo Wars 1

lethal comet Sep 4, 2020, 2:51 PM

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So how much tech has unsc reverse engineered except energy shielding

humble yacht Sep 4, 2020, 2:52 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

inner basin Sep 4, 2020, 2:53 PM

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Plasma weaponry?
We've seen the UNSC use needle weaponry on their Warthogs, at least in simulations

carmine sleet Sep 4, 2020, 2:53 PM

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Needles aren't plasma

inner basin Sep 4, 2020, 2:54 PM

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I know. It was the closest thing I've seen the UNSC reverse engineer in terms of Covenant weaponary

lethal comet Sep 4, 2020, 2:54 PM

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And making blamite weapons wouldnt be the smartest move

carmine sleet Sep 4, 2020, 2:54 PM

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Is it not? The Covenant already use it for weapons

lethal comet Sep 4, 2020, 2:54 PM

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They cant exactly get blamite without the sangheili noticing

candid laurel Sep 4, 2020, 2:54 PM

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reverse engineered rhinos

lethal comet Sep 4, 2020, 2:55 PM

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And they surely wouldnt be happy to give the unsc some blamite

carmine sleet Sep 4, 2020, 2:55 PM

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The UNSC aren't at war with the Swords of Sanghelios, so they could easily make a deal to acquire some. Not to mention there's stores of Blamite out there from before the Covenant fell

humble yacht Sep 4, 2020, 2:55 PM

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the needle hog is less reverse engineering and more collective efforts to combine technology

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like the helioskrill armor

lethal comet Sep 4, 2020, 2:56 PM

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But suban isnt under total SoS control

versed helm Sep 4, 2020, 2:56 PM

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it would be cool if the grizzly was equipped with scarab tech

lethal comet Sep 4, 2020, 2:56 PM

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And the remnants are hogging all the former covenant warehouses

carmine sleet Sep 4, 2020, 2:57 PM

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But suban isnt under total SoS control
Suban is one of the moons of Sanghelios and is controlled by the SoS

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 3:08 PM

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plus all the blamite in the galaxy come from one moon

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would be pretty bad to suddenly have no more ammo for your weapons when it runs out from the one singular source

inner basin Sep 4, 2020, 3:12 PM

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Well what happens if the UNSC runs out of Titanium-A?

lethal comet Sep 4, 2020, 3:15 PM

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Titanium has millions of sources

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 3:15 PM

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titanium exists on other planets

lethal comet Sep 4, 2020, 3:15 PM

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No chance of running out

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 3:15 PM

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blamite has one source

inner basin Sep 4, 2020, 3:18 PM

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But it's only used for one thing. Weaponary

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Titanium-A is used by the UNSC for a good number of things

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 3:18 PM

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and titanium is nearly limitless in the galaxy

inner basin Sep 4, 2020, 3:19 PM

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and titanium is nearly limitless in the galaxy
Could be other sources in the galaxy of blamite too. Why hasn't that question been asked yet?

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 3:20 PM

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i think metanerds caculated that every halcyon class would take only 0.02 percent of earth titanium alone

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and there hasnt been other confirmed sources of blamite

inner basin Sep 4, 2020, 3:21 PM

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Doesn't mean it's not out there. Remember the universe is very big and we've only seen a very small part of it

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 3:22 PM

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well most factions are still in the orion arm

inner basin Sep 4, 2020, 3:22 PM

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Exactly

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Which is why we don't know if there are other sources of blamite out there... yet

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 3:24 PM

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i dont think anyone even understands it

inner basin Sep 4, 2020, 3:25 PM

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My point does have an eventuality (if you just waited a sec) so it's near impossible that it's one off and by the time they run out of blamite on Seban, they'll likely have found another source of blamite

sharp adder Sep 4, 2020, 3:50 PM

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the needle hog is less reverse engineering and more collective efforts to combine technology
@humble yacht i love the neelder hog

gaunt oakBOT Sep 4, 2020, 3:51 PM

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lethal comet Sep 4, 2020, 3:51 PM

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nice

sharp adder Sep 4, 2020, 3:51 PM

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does the planet sized gravemind have a new name then?
@cedar surge pretty sure it's called a keymind of planet mind

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 3:52 PM

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i thought tagging chimera was fine?

humble yacht Sep 4, 2020, 3:53 PM

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rules say only tag mods when there is an issue

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 3:53 PM

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oh

versed helm Sep 4, 2020, 3:59 PM

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Did Let 'Volir have Brutes on his ship in HW2?

carmine sleet Sep 4, 2020, 4:00 PM

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Yes, how else do you think the Brutes in HW2 got to the Ark?

humble yacht Sep 4, 2020, 4:00 PM

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yes

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Let may have been shipmaster but he still served Atriox

scarlet frost Sep 4, 2020, 4:00 PM

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So why did the grunts stop the attack on high charity if they were doing such a rachet

versed helm Sep 4, 2020, 4:00 PM

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That game's events are a blurry haze for me, it is why I asked.

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So why did the grunts stop the attack on high charity if they were doing such a rachet
The Covenant glassed their home planet.

scarlet frost Sep 4, 2020, 4:01 PM

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Part of it yess

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They almost whent extinct

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If not for the arbiter the grunts would have won

round comet Sep 4, 2020, 4:02 PM

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meh

versed helm Sep 4, 2020, 4:03 PM

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Have you ever studied the effects of nuking a civilisation? It has serious impacts on the motivation of victims.

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I presume that this event had a similar effect on the rebellion that the Unggoy were orchestrating.

humble yacht Sep 4, 2020, 4:03 PM

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the brutes didn't seem to mind it

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they nuked themselves and pretty much stayed the same

versed helm Sep 4, 2020, 4:04 PM

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The Brutes are portrayed as being very primitive though.

humble yacht Sep 4, 2020, 4:04 PM

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only because they nuked themselves back to the stone age

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but their motivations didn't change after that

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they're still angry and prone to violence

stark fern Sep 4, 2020, 4:05 PM

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how old will chief be by infinite?

humble yacht Sep 4, 2020, 4:05 PM

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40-something

round comet Sep 4, 2020, 4:06 PM

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scarlet frost Sep 4, 2020, 4:06 PM

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He would me 48 i think

round comet Sep 4, 2020, 4:06 PM

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he was born in 2511.

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this is 2560.

scarlet frost Sep 4, 2020, 4:06 PM

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John was made a spartan at the age of 15

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Spartan 2s

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 4:07 PM

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oh hey

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i just remebered the kestrel

scarlet frost Sep 4, 2020, 4:08 PM

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If it not for the arbiters the covenants would not have been so powerfull

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The arbiters are highly respected by the Council

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 4:08 PM

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well

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400 years ago the abiter became a mark of shame

stark fern Sep 4, 2020, 4:09 PM

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what's the kestrel?

versed helm Sep 4, 2020, 4:09 PM

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Remember that cryo-sleep exists, Johnson should be in his 70s before his death by that logic.

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 4:09 PM

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https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/universe/vehicles/kestrel

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johnson was in his 70s

fair hazel Sep 4, 2020, 4:10 PM

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I have a kestrel

scarlet frost Sep 4, 2020, 4:10 PM

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The current arbiter we have rn was gonna be executed but the prophets had plans for him

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 4:10 PM

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what?

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erick what do you mean

scarlet frost Sep 4, 2020, 4:10 PM

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Poor Johnson had a terrible end

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 4:10 PM

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yup

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killed by bungie for no reason

fair hazel Sep 4, 2020, 4:11 PM

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Mega construx

stark fern Sep 4, 2020, 4:11 PM

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marty did it, you know.

scarlet frost Sep 4, 2020, 4:11 PM

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343 spark killed him

stiff creek Sep 4, 2020, 4:11 PM

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Well they had to kill off somebody.

scarlet frost Sep 4, 2020, 4:11 PM

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And the flood infected him before he died

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 4:11 PM

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sgt stacker

stiff creek Sep 4, 2020, 4:12 PM

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no not Stacker

scarlet frost Sep 4, 2020, 4:12 PM

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And we was a flood combat form being alive

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 4:12 PM

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the most importaant guy in the trilogy was him tho

scarlet frost Sep 4, 2020, 4:12 PM

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He tired to kill himself but when he almost succeeded he flood gained controll again

stiff creek Sep 4, 2020, 4:13 PM

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wot

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Nie

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 4:13 PM

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a cyclops could beat a scarab

stiff creek Sep 4, 2020, 4:13 PM

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That'd be epic.

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Mech fight.

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 4:14 PM

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it would be like pacific rim

stiff creek Sep 4, 2020, 4:14 PM

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Yïs.

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Azura's Wrath except it's Halo.

vague scroll Sep 4, 2020, 4:15 PM

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a Scarab would obliterate a cyclops I'm sorry to report

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there's a significant size difference between the two

stiff creek Sep 4, 2020, 4:15 PM

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Nah

vague scroll Sep 4, 2020, 4:15 PM

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and Cyclops aren't designed to take on a Scarab excavation beam

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 4:15 PM

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a cyclops would just run towards the scarab and knock out those needle legs

stiff creek Sep 4, 2020, 4:15 PM

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Cyclopes are 4x larger than the Scarab

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Jkjk

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 4:16 PM

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a cyclops is strong enough to toss a wraith

vague scroll Sep 4, 2020, 4:16 PM

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needle legs? those things are a lot more sturdy than you think

fair hazel Sep 4, 2020, 4:16 PM

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Do you seriously think a cyclops takes on a scarab..?

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 4:17 PM

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well

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70 percent joking

vague scroll Sep 4, 2020, 4:18 PM

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maybe in terms of scale, I could see the argument made for a Mega-Mantis or Colossus but even then UNSC walkers and Covenant excavators are designed for totally different roles, I don't think either type of walker would be a good match for one another

stiff creek Sep 4, 2020, 4:20 PM

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On the topic of mech thingies, I wonder if the Harvester has any weaponry.

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 4:21 PM

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harvester?

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the kraken?

stiff creek Sep 4, 2020, 4:21 PM

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Nah.

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The big tick lookin thing in Spartan Ops.

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You only see the front of it.

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You get to walk around in it tho.

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It is massive.

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 4:23 PM

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so the wraith is more like artillery than a tank

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does the covenant actually have a tan?

stiff creek Sep 4, 2020, 4:24 PM

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Maybe in the past.

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You could also just call a Hunter a tank.

fair hazel Sep 4, 2020, 4:26 PM

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You see it fire in spartan ops...

stiff creek Sep 4, 2020, 4:27 PM

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Yeah?

inner basin Sep 4, 2020, 4:27 PM

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I mean if it was CQC, I’d say the Cyclops would have the better chance of winning (as it could just out-manoeuvre the Scarab) whereas if it was longer range, where the Cyclops has to close the distance, it’d be obliterated

fair hazel Sep 4, 2020, 4:28 PM

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You see it’s weapons

stiff creek Sep 4, 2020, 4:28 PM

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Oh, neat.

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I haven't played the missions that the Harvester are in since like.. I dunno, 2014.

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Jeez.

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That things beam looks crazy.

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Imagine what the Banished could do with them.

fringe maple Sep 4, 2020, 5:10 PM

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I can't say the f word

round comet Sep 4, 2020, 5:10 PM

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nope.

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 5:11 PM

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gotta keep it clean

fringe maple Sep 4, 2020, 5:11 PM

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Johnson didn't get infected he's immune

gilded mason Sep 4, 2020, 5:11 PM

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He's not immune

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 5:11 PM

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not immune

stiff creek Sep 4, 2020, 5:11 PM

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Not immune, just less tasty.

versed helm Sep 4, 2020, 5:11 PM

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cyclops would win in cyclops vs scarab

fringe maple Sep 4, 2020, 5:11 PM

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cant say g word either

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 5:11 PM

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he is like a crusty bagel to the flood

stiff creek Sep 4, 2020, 5:11 PM

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Eww.

fringe maple Sep 4, 2020, 5:11 PM

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3 people

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nerds

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 5:12 PM

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yea his nevous system got ravaged by the orion program

fringe maple Sep 4, 2020, 5:12 PM

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but funny thanks

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 5:13 PM

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reading escalations is strange

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sometimes the art is good,but sometimes im laughing at how goofy it looks

round comet Sep 4, 2020, 5:16 PM

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escalations itself is a really decent read

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except 72 hours

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that SUCKS.

inner basin Sep 4, 2020, 5:16 PM

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Johnson is harder/more difficult for the Flood to infect than normal Marines. It gives the misconception that he is immune when in reality he can still be infected

fringe maple Sep 4, 2020, 5:16 PM

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thinkingchief

inner basin Sep 4, 2020, 5:17 PM

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except 72 hours
I've always hated it and my opinion will likely never be swayed

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 5:18 PM

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72 hours is in escalation right?

gilded mason Sep 4, 2020, 5:18 PM

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Yes

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 5:18 PM

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the one where black team was murked for no good reason

inner basin Sep 4, 2020, 5:19 PM

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Imagine needlessly killing off Black Team in a comic, and in the same arc contain the Didact being composed instead of having him be the antagonist for the next game. It really baffles me to this day

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Reed really messed up imo

gilded mason Sep 4, 2020, 5:19 PM

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And it's also the first time Blue Team has seen John in years, and they barely react.

inner basin Sep 4, 2020, 5:20 PM

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I could nitpick that thing apart but I'd be writing an essay and I really cba to do that

feral perch Sep 4, 2020, 5:20 PM

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They move on from Black Team’s death with shocking indifference. Nylund wrote Chief and Blue better than that.

versed helm Sep 4, 2020, 5:22 PM

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why was black team rekt?

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 5:22 PM

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the plot of the didact ammassing a armada of guardians make more sense

feral perch Sep 4, 2020, 5:22 PM

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Yeah

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 5:22 PM

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to make the didact spooky

versed helm Sep 4, 2020, 5:22 PM

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was it the prisoner drones?

gilded mason Sep 4, 2020, 5:22 PM

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Reed asked 343 who he could kill to "raise the stakes for Blue Team" and somebody shrugged and said, "Dunno, Black Team?"

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 5:23 PM

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hmmm,kill a bunch of odsts?

gilded mason Sep 4, 2020, 5:23 PM

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Or SIVs

feral perch Sep 4, 2020, 5:23 PM

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At least they could’ve killed off nameless Gammas.

inner basin Sep 4, 2020, 5:24 PM

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At least they could’ve killed off nameless Gammas.
Glad it wasn't this

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 5:24 PM

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nah everyone knows the death of named characters make situations more serious

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always works

inner basin Sep 4, 2020, 5:24 PM

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I would've preferred if they killed off like 6 or 7 Spartan-IVs

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They're basically expendable

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 5:25 PM

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yea they have like hundreds of them

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and we know what IVs are capeable of

inner basin Sep 4, 2020, 5:27 PM

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Or how about 6-7 Spartan-IVs, a number of Marines and a number of ODSTs who were all assigned a position at Ivanoff Station. That way it makes sense on why they were sent to Installation-03

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 5:27 PM

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who seriously thought this would be a good idea

inner basin Sep 4, 2020, 5:27 PM

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who seriously thought this would be a good idea
Brian Reed. Thankfully he's moved on from Halo and I do wish him all the best in his future endeavours... as long as it doesn't have anything to do with writing for Halo

round comet Sep 4, 2020, 5:29 PM

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he made mistakes.

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he's not on the team anymore.

inner basin Sep 4, 2020, 5:30 PM

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I know he isn't on the team, I'm implying that I hope it stays that way

carmine sleet Sep 4, 2020, 5:30 PM

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Reed left 343i a few years ago

inner basin Sep 4, 2020, 5:32 PM

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I'm gonna clarify this:
as long as it doesn't have anything to do with writing for Halo
It was just me being snarky

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 5:34 PM

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so is it realistic or not that the unsc are not shooting energy weapons everywhere and still using projectile weapons

carmine sleet Sep 4, 2020, 5:34 PM

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We'd have to travel forward 500 years to find out if it's realistic or not

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But even then, using traditional ammo is likely still going to be common in the future, given that it's very reliable

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Plus, you're not likely to have your assault rifle blow up like a grenade if there's something wrong with it, unlike energy based weapons

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 5:36 PM

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well it feels like a lot of people are on the unsc's back about still using primitive weapons

feral perch Sep 4, 2020, 5:37 PM

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Bungie said that 500 years in the future, you’d just drink a glass of water and all your enemies would die. But that’d be boring, so you use guns instead.

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 5:38 PM

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well yea

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plus i find the nergy wepon and projectile weapon dynamic coo

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and not just everyone going "pew pew pew"

inner basin Sep 4, 2020, 5:41 PM

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and not just everyone going "pew pew pew"
Reminds me of Advanced and Infinite Warfare. Every gun basically has the cliche pew

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 5:42 PM

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and then they have the most boring or worse solutions

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like"oh just copy paste our vehicle into halo"

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or say reverse engineer all the covenants tech

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or just outright steal covenant stuff to use in the unsc military

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wot

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palmer threw a knife through scruggs arm

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what happened to the shields

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though i wasn't expecting him to be a insurrectionit

inner basin Sep 4, 2020, 5:52 PM

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Shields are sometimes misrepresented canonically

unique rune Sep 4, 2020, 5:53 PM

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Little known secret
combat knives are made of a top-secret plot convenient material that allows them to pierce through whatever material they need as the plot demands

inner basin Sep 4, 2020, 5:53 PM

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If she thrusted the Knife into his arm instead of throwing it, it'd make more sense

versed helm Sep 4, 2020, 6:06 PM

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its a bit too hard to believe that she threw the knife so fast that it broke through a shield that can repel a full clip of assault rifle bullets

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 6:08 PM

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Well she did stab him in the throat later

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But why she would not detonate the armor

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Or did she take the body with her

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I wasn't expecting Scruggs to be a insurrectionists,but I probably should have suspected it when he was sitting next to two dead Spartans

inner basin Sep 4, 2020, 6:13 PM

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I wasn't expecting Scruggs to be a insurrectionists,but I probably should have suspected it when he was sitting next to two dead Spartans
I found him to be real sus tbh

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 6:13 PM

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im like how palmer reacted

gilded mason Sep 4, 2020, 6:14 PM

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I can't believe Hood would hold Scruggs hostage like that.

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 6:14 PM

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the punishment is your kneecap

gilded mason Sep 4, 2020, 6:15 PM

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A just punishment.

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 6:16 PM

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but yea it shows a flaw of the IVs

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a insurrectionist can wiggle into become a spartan

carmine sleet Sep 4, 2020, 6:17 PM

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Still better than child soldiers

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 6:18 PM

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wait

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if hood got murked or captured by that covenant

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wouldn't osman become lore admiral?

carmine sleet Sep 4, 2020, 6:19 PM

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No

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 6:20 PM

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how do you become lord admiral

carmine sleet Sep 4, 2020, 6:21 PM

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Well, first off, Lord Admiral isn't a rank in the UNSC. Hood is a Fleet Admiral

gilded mason Sep 4, 2020, 6:21 PM

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By eating the previous one

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 6:21 PM

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then why is hecalled lord admiral

gilded mason Sep 4, 2020, 6:22 PM

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He isn't?

carmine sleet Sep 4, 2020, 6:22 PM

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The "lord" part of his name comes from the fact that he's a British Noble, it has nothing to do with his rank

gilded mason Sep 4, 2020, 6:22 PM

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Only ever heard Lord Hood, or Admiral Hood

carmine sleet Sep 4, 2020, 6:23 PM

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His title is Fleet Admiral (His rank) Lord (British Nobility thing) Terrence Hood

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 6:23 PM

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british royalty is still around?

carmine sleet Sep 4, 2020, 6:23 PM

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Given how old the Queen is, I'd not be surprised if Liz is still kicking in the 2550s

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 6:23 PM

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but wouldn't the UEG just entirely render them useles

carmine sleet Sep 4, 2020, 6:24 PM

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The British are stubborn and like to try and keep as much of what makes us British as possible (And sometimes not realise that they're shooting themselves in the foot after being lied to)

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 6:29 PM

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the british must feel pretty smug it was a noble that led the unsc to victory

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 7:01 PM

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wait the kestrel was used in the HCW?

inner basin Sep 4, 2020, 7:01 PM

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wait the kestrel was used in the HCW?
Yeah

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Hang on, is the Silent Shadow confirmed in Infinite? I'm seeing conflicting information from different places

gilded mason Sep 4, 2020, 7:15 PM

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Jega, at least

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But nobody else yet

inner basin Sep 4, 2020, 7:15 PM

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Okay good. That's what I thought too

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Do we know if he is still a part of the Silent Shadow though?

gilded mason Sep 4, 2020, 7:17 PM

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No idea.

wide shadow Sep 4, 2020, 7:17 PM

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maybe thw silent shadow became one with the banished and the members kinda split to become their own things like jega

gilded mason Sep 4, 2020, 7:18 PM

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[Also, you probably meant "a part" there. ;)]

inner basin Sep 4, 2020, 7:18 PM

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Yeah. Fixed

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 7:27 PM

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So did the silent shadow assinate many unsc personal?

gilded mason Sep 4, 2020, 7:27 PM

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Maybe?

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 7:28 PM

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Its mostly the unsc doing the assassinations

inner basin Sep 4, 2020, 7:34 PM

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In Headhunters I always found it weird that the Elite called the Humans cowardly even though the Elites used active camo all the time

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But J did come up with a good response

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 7:37 PM

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You see its not cowardly for the elites to use camo because

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Because

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Ostral can you help

inner basin Sep 4, 2020, 7:40 PM

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No he can't because IT IS COWARDLY

feral perch Sep 4, 2020, 7:40 PM

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It really is cowardly

gilded mason Sep 4, 2020, 7:41 PM

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Ostral can you help```
'Cause not all Elites are the same. Gosh

feral perch Sep 4, 2020, 7:41 PM

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that explanation does not help u here

gilded mason Sep 4, 2020, 7:41 PM

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A empire spanning thousands of systems ain't gonna have the same monoculture.

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Oh, you were talking about the guys in Headhunters?

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Uh

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They were trolling the humans

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Yeah

inner basin Sep 4, 2020, 7:42 PM

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They were trolling the humans
Yeah... totally trolling the Humans. I don't buy it

feral perch Sep 4, 2020, 7:43 PM

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The Covenant military saw widespread use of active camouflage. It’s something widely accepted by Sangheili warriors from numerous worlds... So why is it exempt from being considered dishonorable?

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If terrorism is a no-no, what makes active camouflage different?

gilded mason Sep 4, 2020, 7:46 PM

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I guess since it's simply a tool used during normal warfare?

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Also, remember the line? I wanted to look for it to see if there was a given explanation

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 7:57 PM

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Doesn't the unsc have a science branch?

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We don't see much of it do we?

gilded mason Sep 4, 2020, 7:59 PM

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Does it? There's scientists contracted to work with various branches, but...

dusty prawn Sep 4, 2020, 7:59 PM

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It’s probably just over looked to them because it has been so common for so long. I imagine having a large arm shield would be seen as dishonerable for quite some time before they got used to it as being part of an honorable direct combat tool, like their combat harnesses or carbines. But they didn’t start to use it so I don’t think it would over happen. Probably a gradual thing. I mean overlying culture, as Oosoonas do exist after all, though they most likely don’t like calling themselves out

nimble crest Sep 4, 2020, 9:19 PM

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Did all species of the covenant eat humans? Or just brutes and jackals

gilded mason Sep 4, 2020, 9:19 PM

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Grunts sometimes did.

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But I thought that didn't make much sense

feral perch Sep 4, 2020, 9:20 PM

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Where do we hear of anything except Brutes doing that?

gilded mason Sep 4, 2020, 9:20 PM

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Fall of Reach talks about grunts, I think

feral perch Sep 4, 2020, 9:20 PM

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Hm.

nimble crest Sep 4, 2020, 9:21 PM

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In the believe trailer, you can see jackals dragging away a marine. That is were I got the assumption

feral perch Sep 4, 2020, 9:21 PM

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I mean they could just be intending to capture him for the Prophet of Truth so he’s got a handy Halo activator

nimble crest Sep 4, 2020, 9:22 PM

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But I mean it’s jackals

feral perch Sep 4, 2020, 9:22 PM

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and?

carmine sleet Sep 4, 2020, 9:23 PM

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Being dragged away doesn't mean they're going to be eaten

nimble crest Sep 4, 2020, 9:23 PM

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They aren’t really interested in that

feral perch Sep 4, 2020, 9:23 PM

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Jackals who are helping the Prophet of Truth in Halo 3 must be.

unique rune Sep 4, 2020, 9:23 PM

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I think Grunts and Jackals eating people is also mentioned in New Blood... but then you also have to account for Buck being a potentially unreliable narrator.
Especially since I recall he was talking about it in the context of his homeworld of Draco III.

dense pulsar Sep 4, 2020, 9:32 PM

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Yea

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I figure "oh and they eat us too" would be a rumor used to vilify Covenant races

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 9:51 PM

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yea there was a halopedia article about how after blue team saw jackals and grunts eat a entire group of civilians killed everyone last one they saw

peak veldt Sep 4, 2020, 9:54 PM

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Does the Ark have a monitor?

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 9:55 PM

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it used to

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before it got destoyed

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does lasky have a robot spine or someting?

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whats the thing on the back on his uniform

carmine sleet Sep 4, 2020, 9:57 PM

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Lasky has a normal spine

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Does the Ark have a monitor?
000 Tragic Solitude. He was a tragic one for sure. After Halo 3, he tried to activate the rings and wipe out all life after Chief did a number on the Ark when he fired Installation 09 before it was finished. Luckily, Solitude was stopped by a joint UNSC/Sword of Sanghelios team

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 10:26 PM

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oh,there are a hundred covenant warlords trying to be the covenant

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thats a bit less than i was expecting

jolly furnace Sep 4, 2020, 10:29 PM

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still alot

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 10:29 PM

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hold up

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cutters son is mad

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that hood cared abut him to send his family money?

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what?

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he sounds like a spoiled brat

silk lily Sep 4, 2020, 10:30 PM

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is solitude dead?

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 10:37 PM

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so

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do any of you guys take the new colonial alliance seriuosly?

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7 was nice

versed helm Sep 4, 2020, 10:52 PM

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is solitude dead?
@silk lily Yes, he is eliminated in the novel, Hunters In The Dark.

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 11:01 PM

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so i got to the part where black team died

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why

gilded mason Sep 4, 2020, 11:02 PM

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Thon and Reff's revenge from beyond the grave

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 11:04 PM

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blue team never even gave notice to the death of black team

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as if they were just dead marines

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let me guess

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the didact wiped the floor with black team but blue team stomped the didact somehow

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also reading a old waypoint thing where a person frankie is invloved

inner basin Sep 4, 2020, 11:12 PM

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000 Tragic Solitude. He was a tragic one for sure. After Halo 3, he tried to activate the rings and wipe out all life after Chief did a number on the Ark when he fired Installation 09 before it was finished. Luckily, Solitude was stopped by a joint UNSC/Sword of Sanghelios team
Was it not Installation-08 that was fired in Halo 3?

gilded mason Sep 4, 2020, 11:12 PM

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For shame, Slippy. For shame.

silk lily Sep 4, 2020, 11:12 PM

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im pretty sure it's installation 09

gilded mason Sep 4, 2020, 11:13 PM

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(John fired 08)

silk lily Sep 4, 2020, 11:13 PM

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oh okay

inner basin Sep 4, 2020, 11:14 PM

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Installation-09 hasn’t been fired yet. It was the one seen at the end of HW2 (Halo Wars 2)

silk lily Sep 4, 2020, 11:18 PM

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do the banished still believe in the great journey? what are their ambitions and intent

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i didn't play halo wars 2

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 11:19 PM

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some in the banished do

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but most don't believe in the great journey

gilded mason Sep 4, 2020, 11:20 PM

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Yup

west silo Sep 4, 2020, 11:20 PM

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Decimus does

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Thats the only one I know

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 11:20 PM

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also black team died to make blue team look good

west silo Sep 4, 2020, 11:20 PM

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To make the didact look good u mean

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 11:20 PM

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and just make IVs look better in general

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actually what was the point of sending a spartan 2 team

west silo Sep 4, 2020, 11:21 PM

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No the 4s would have been massacred

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actually what was the point of sending a spartan 2 team
@cedar surge
I think they were already there

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The didact landed right infront of them

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 11:22 PM

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so what happened after 343 killed black team off

inner basin Sep 4, 2020, 11:22 PM

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I think Black Team were at Ivanoff Station and went to investigate the ring after the Didact showed up

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Although I could be wrong because I try my best to forget The Next 72 Hours

west silo Sep 4, 2020, 11:23 PM

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Not spark

inner basin Sep 4, 2020, 11:23 PM

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He means 343i

west silo Sep 4, 2020, 11:24 PM

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Nothing

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 11:25 PM

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i looked at a waypoint forum and they were calling a person named frankie a liar

inner basin Sep 4, 2020, 11:25 PM

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Well Blue Team showed up, with none of them reacting to seeing John after a long time and they fight the Didact, are assisted by the Monitor launch a segment of the ring into the Composer’s Forge and the Didact is composed

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 11:25 PM

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lying about 4,5,escalations,mcc, and black team

west silo Sep 4, 2020, 11:26 PM

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What did he lie about

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 11:26 PM

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im not sure

west silo Sep 4, 2020, 11:26 PM

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The didact is still alive

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 11:26 PM

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want the link?

inner basin Sep 4, 2020, 11:26 PM

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The didact is still alive
But he’s composed. You can be both

west silo Sep 4, 2020, 11:26 PM

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Still technically alive

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 11:27 PM

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https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/forums/db05ce78845f4120b062c50816008e5d/topics/so-what-was-the-reason-for-killing-off-black-team/c65daa43-4203-40a4-95b9-6b9a4866df74/posts

west silo Sep 4, 2020, 11:27 PM

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Like spark is composed and hes technically alive

inner basin Sep 4, 2020, 11:28 PM

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Spark isn’t composed

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He’s in an Armiger Frame

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 11:29 PM

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so the composers abyss

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could they detonate a bomb there and everbodies souls would be free?

west silo Sep 4, 2020, 11:34 PM

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Spark isn’t composed
@inner basin
He was composed and then placed inside a monitor shell

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could they detonate a bomb there and everbodies souls would be free?
@cedar surge
Unfortunately a monitor also dissappeared with the forge so who knows

nimble crest Sep 4, 2020, 11:43 PM

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Was halo 4 in our galaxy?

gilded mason Sep 4, 2020, 11:44 PM

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Yes

nimble crest Sep 4, 2020, 11:44 PM

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They drifted back?

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 11:44 PM

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both parts of the dawn made it through

nimble crest Sep 4, 2020, 11:44 PM

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Not chiefs

gilded mason Sep 4, 2020, 11:44 PM

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MB tried to reroute the Dawn mid-transit. Because the portal was unstable, he accidently cut it in half doing so

nimble crest Sep 4, 2020, 11:45 PM

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MB?

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 11:45 PM

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MB screwing up everthing huh

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mendicant bias

gilded mason Sep 4, 2020, 11:45 PM

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So both halves went into the portal, but they each went to different part of the galaxy

nimble crest Sep 4, 2020, 11:45 PM

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Aye

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 11:45 PM

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MB is the reason the war started

west silo Sep 4, 2020, 11:45 PM

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Well accidentally

nimble crest Sep 4, 2020, 11:45 PM

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Filth

gilded mason Sep 4, 2020, 11:45 PM

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"im trying my best =("

MB

west silo Sep 4, 2020, 11:46 PM

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Blame the ship

nimble crest Sep 4, 2020, 11:46 PM

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Can’t wait to ___________ him in infinite

gilded mason Sep 4, 2020, 11:46 PM

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Hug?

nimble crest Sep 4, 2020, 11:46 PM

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Idk if he’s gonna be killable or not

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 11:46 PM

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love?

west silo Sep 4, 2020, 11:46 PM

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Thank?

gilded mason Sep 4, 2020, 11:46 PM

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But yeah, he didn't mean to do anything wrong after the array fired

#

Things just kept going wrong for him

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 11:47 PM

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yea magicka

nimble crest Sep 4, 2020, 11:47 PM

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Logic plague having

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Horrible war startin

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 11:47 PM

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MB is the reason why chief even got to the dawn in 3

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he proteccted him in the warthog run

nimble crest Sep 4, 2020, 11:47 PM

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31 year war causin

west silo Sep 4, 2020, 11:47 PM

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All according to plan

nimble crest Sep 4, 2020, 11:47 PM

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chief protectin

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31 year investigatin

gilded mason Sep 4, 2020, 11:48 PM

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But I do wonder what butterfly effect would happen if the portal was just a bit more stable and the entire ship got sent to Requiem.

nimble crest Sep 4, 2020, 11:48 PM

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Let’s not think about that

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 11:48 PM

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mac strike galore

nimble crest Sep 4, 2020, 11:48 PM

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Let’s think about what would happen if they both got home

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No diddumb

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 11:49 PM

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well if reqium didnt open due to the chief 4 and 5 wouldn't have happened i guess

nimble crest Sep 4, 2020, 11:50 PM

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I think know the plot of the next halo title 10 years from now

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C o n t a c t: h a r v e s t For the Xbox 3

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Let’s go

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 11:51 PM

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well actualy

#

there are gonna be spinoffs

nimble crest Sep 4, 2020, 11:51 PM

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Yee

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 11:51 PM

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and likely campaign expansions

west silo Sep 4, 2020, 11:51 PM

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Odst 2 when

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 11:51 PM

#

odst 3 when

nimble crest Sep 4, 2020, 11:52 PM

#

Marine perspective of Alexandria and Mombasa when

gilded mason Sep 4, 2020, 11:52 PM

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Halo: Charity Drive
You play as an Elite Councilor raising money for re-election.

west silo Sep 4, 2020, 11:52 PM

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First person banished expansion would be great

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 11:52 PM

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halo starfighter control when

nimble crest Sep 4, 2020, 11:52 PM

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Horror game as a civilian elite escaping high charity as the flood take it

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 11:52 PM

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i want to kamikaze my longsword into a covenant ship

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since it would be lore acurate

nimble crest Sep 4, 2020, 11:53 PM

#

And I was thinki- wait what did you just say

west silo Sep 4, 2020, 11:53 PM

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I want an empire at wars style halo game

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Wait what?

nimble crest Sep 4, 2020, 11:54 PM

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First strike game

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Lore accurate marine game where the plasma does what it does in the books

silk lily Sep 4, 2020, 11:54 PM

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what do you guys think about what i said in #483759756566069258

west silo Sep 4, 2020, 11:57 PM

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Realistic halo would mean getting one shotted by any covenant weapon

cedar surge Sep 4, 2020, 11:57 PM

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hey spartan

#

there is a mod being devolped for EAW

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halo mod

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there is also a abandoned space only halo mod

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realistic halo?

#

well legendary is gonna be one thing

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hell

nimble crest Sep 5, 2020, 12:01 AM

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Interesting concept

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Still want to play as a marine

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A spartan game without shielding

west silo Sep 5, 2020, 12:02 AM

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I know there's also a halo mod for sins of solar empire

cedar surge Sep 5, 2020, 12:03 AM

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Yea sins of the prophets

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Took me 4 tries to win once with the unsc

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With allies

craggy sierra Sep 5, 2020, 12:04 AM

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The end result is the shield mechanic is just going to be replaced with the CoD eye bleed effect.

nimble crest Sep 5, 2020, 12:04 AM

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Yup

#

When I was little I thought turning on night vision on ODST healed you

west silo Sep 5, 2020, 12:04 AM

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Cough cough odst

cedar surge Sep 5, 2020, 12:05 AM

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Thank you for making it even harder to see my enemies who are trying to call me,thank you raspberry jam

craggy sierra Sep 5, 2020, 12:05 AM

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That doesn’t seem worth it

nimble crest Sep 5, 2020, 12:05 AM

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Even now I hate how red the screen gets I can’t see in front of me

cedar surge Sep 5, 2020, 12:05 AM

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Well if you got hit with one plasma shot

#

You would probably be dead

craggy sierra Sep 5, 2020, 12:05 AM

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Even ODST kinda cheats because there is a very large and regenerating threshold in place before your actual healthbar begins getting chunked

cedar surge Sep 5, 2020, 12:06 AM

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Yea stamina

nimble crest Sep 5, 2020, 12:06 AM

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Goes from 0 to 100 rq

craggy sierra Sep 5, 2020, 12:06 AM

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I guarantee you stamina is probably just shields behind the game’s code.

west silo Sep 5, 2020, 12:06 AM

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The red screen from odst is really annoying though

#

U can't see a thing

cedar surge Sep 5, 2020, 12:07 AM

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Ok but what about

nimble crest Sep 5, 2020, 12:07 AM

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Nope

cedar surge Sep 5, 2020, 12:07 AM

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Halo but ARMA

nimble crest Sep 5, 2020, 12:07 AM

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Aye

west silo Sep 5, 2020, 12:07 AM

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Already an arma mod

cedar surge Sep 5, 2020, 12:07 AM

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With covenant?

nimble crest Sep 5, 2020, 12:08 AM

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Key word: mod

cedar surge Sep 5, 2020, 12:08 AM

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I wish for a halo starfighter game

craggy sierra Sep 5, 2020, 12:08 AM

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Halo’s gunplay is kinda not suited to being hyper realistic

west silo Sep 5, 2020, 12:08 AM

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Eh?

#

No game is really hiper realistic

craggy sierra Sep 5, 2020, 12:09 AM

#

Arma tries to be

#

Halo doesn’t even have a pretense of it though.

cedar surge Sep 5, 2020, 12:09 AM

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Longsword,baselard,shortswords,nanado,sabres,broadswords

west silo Sep 5, 2020, 12:09 AM

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That's kinda the charm about arma

cedar surge Sep 5, 2020, 12:09 AM

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All this fighters

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Against covenant fighters

west silo Sep 5, 2020, 12:09 AM

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And insurgency

craggy sierra Sep 5, 2020, 12:09 AM

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I know it’s their charm

#

It still conflicts at a very fundamental level with everything Halo’s built around

cedar surge Sep 5, 2020, 12:10 AM

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Arms just seems a bit boring to me without editing

#

You crawl for like 30 minutes before getting shot by somebody who you never could have saw

west silo Sep 5, 2020, 12:11 AM

#

I would like a halo game as large as planetside 2

cedar surge Sep 5, 2020, 12:11 AM

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Oh yea

craggy sierra Sep 5, 2020, 12:12 AM

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that would be kinda terrible unless every weapon is given the same concessions as planetside with projectile leading and damage falloff.

west silo Sep 5, 2020, 12:12 AM

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At least at that size we could get battle Royal without it being battle Royal

#

that would be kinda terrible unless every weapon is given the same concessions as planetside with projectile leading and damage falloff.
@craggy sierra
Dude halo weopeans are already unbalanced as hell

cedar surge Sep 5, 2020, 12:13 AM

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That

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What

nimble crest Sep 5, 2020, 12:13 AM

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Covenant focused reach invasion

craggy sierra Sep 5, 2020, 12:13 AM

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Yeah, they’d make planetside completely unplayable if dropped in without compensating for the larger map scale.

cedar surge Sep 5, 2020, 12:13 AM

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So your saying it would be ok for it to be unbalanced?

west silo Sep 5, 2020, 12:13 AM

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No

craggy sierra Sep 5, 2020, 12:14 AM

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Tbh Planetside is already kinda unplayable

cedar surge Sep 5, 2020, 12:14 AM

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It does have some cool action though

terse lava Sep 5, 2020, 12:14 AM

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Could be drop pods for respawning

nimble crest Sep 5, 2020, 12:14 AM

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Did spartan IIIs have those booster things that 4s had

west silo Sep 5, 2020, 12:14 AM

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I just think a larger scale warzone would be fun

cedar surge Sep 5, 2020, 12:14 AM

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No

craggy sierra Sep 5, 2020, 12:15 AM

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Considering the Spartan 3’s got adopted into the Spartan 4 program, they do now.

west silo Sep 5, 2020, 12:15 AM

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And planetside was the closest thing I could think of

cedar surge Sep 5, 2020, 12:15 AM

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@nimble crest IIIs had SPI

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Stealth armor

nimble crest Sep 5, 2020, 12:15 AM

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Wait hold on

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How did Émile put his shotgun on his back that shoulder armor ain’t letting that happen

west silo Sep 5, 2020, 12:16 AM

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Magnetic plates

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All armors have them

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Even marines

nimble crest Sep 5, 2020, 12:16 AM

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I know about the plates I’m talking about that armor plate conflicting with the mobility needed to holster it

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I know the armor has it

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Now that’s a thinker

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Anyways y’all see the new mk7? Looks sick

feral perch Sep 5, 2020, 12:27 AM

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It feels generic within the context of Halo

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oh boy, yet another take on Reach and Halo 3 style armor, yippee

nimble crest Sep 5, 2020, 12:27 AM

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It looks fresh and nostalgic

west silo Sep 5, 2020, 12:28 AM

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I don't like the fact that its missing the thrusters

nimble crest Sep 5, 2020, 12:28 AM

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Better then mk 6

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It do not matter

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They never needed them then

cedar surge Sep 5, 2020, 12:29 AM

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Least it doesn't blind people with color

west silo Sep 5, 2020, 12:29 AM

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It's doesn't make sense to leave out one of the most important part of the last gen armor

cedar surge Sep 5, 2020, 12:29 AM

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Heck the 4 and 5 armor was still bright in dark places

feral perch Sep 5, 2020, 12:29 AM

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I’m not thrilled with it but it’s not bad at all.

nimble crest Sep 5, 2020, 12:29 AM

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I’d prefer it to the seeker armor

cedar surge Sep 5, 2020, 12:30 AM

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Gen 2 felt more like a bodysuit with plates of armor than full armor

nimble crest Sep 5, 2020, 12:30 AM

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I’ll say it again, if blue team isn’t wearing chiefs armor with minor customizations, cancels the game

west silo Sep 5, 2020, 12:30 AM

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I’d prefer it to the seeker armor
@nimble crest
Dude you'd prefer anything to the seeker

cedar surge Sep 5, 2020, 12:31 AM

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But they always had different armor

feral perch Sep 5, 2020, 12:31 AM

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I’ll say it again, if blue team isn’t wearing chiefs armor with minor customizations, cancels the game
@nimble crest

Have you seen the cover of Shadows of Reach?

west silo Sep 5, 2020, 12:31 AM

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I actually liked the gen2 blue team armors

nimble crest Sep 5, 2020, 12:31 AM

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Felt off

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Linda helmet nasty

west silo Sep 5, 2020, 12:32 AM

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The helmet is actually cool to me

nimble crest Sep 5, 2020, 12:32 AM

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I get that they would have different armors because they weren’t in cryosleep for 4 years

west silo Sep 5, 2020, 12:32 AM

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Just remove some of the lens

feral perch Sep 5, 2020, 12:32 AM

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Linda’s helmet on SoR looks fine

west silo Sep 5, 2020, 12:32 AM

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5

cedar surge Sep 5, 2020, 12:32 AM

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Scopes?

west silo Sep 5, 2020, 12:32 AM

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I meant 5

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Yes

cedar surge Sep 5, 2020, 12:33 AM

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And yea

feral perch Sep 5, 2020, 12:33 AM

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https://www.halopedia.org/Halo:_Shadows_of_Reach

cedar surge Sep 5, 2020, 12:33 AM

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Anything next to the seeker helmet would look like gold

nimble crest Sep 5, 2020, 12:33 AM

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Ok just saw the cover I’m fine

feral perch Sep 5, 2020, 12:34 AM

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Halo 5 has some good armor sets. Icarus, Venator, Recruit, Dynast, and others

nimble crest Sep 5, 2020, 12:34 AM

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I don’t like the mk6 armor it’s less low profile and feels overly jagged

west silo Sep 5, 2020, 12:35 AM

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The elites armor is neat for an armor created by elites for humans

cedar surge Sep 5, 2020, 12:35 AM

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And also I don't like how the gen 2 black bodysuit makes the Spartans head stick out

nimble crest Sep 5, 2020, 12:35 AM

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Wym

cedar surge Sep 5, 2020, 12:35 AM

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The budosuit going past the jaw

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At*

nimble crest Sep 5, 2020, 12:36 AM

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Aye

west silo Sep 5, 2020, 12:36 AM

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Didn't it always reach the jaw?

nimble crest Sep 5, 2020, 12:36 AM

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No

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Gen 1 was around the collar

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Concept art carter is cute really hope infinite has like more webbing and gear customization

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Besides armor

cedar surge Sep 5, 2020, 12:41 AM

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Carter?

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You mean from Nobel team?

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The toys they showed are just under a toy line

nimble crest Sep 5, 2020, 12:42 AM

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No from concept art of reach

west silo Sep 5, 2020, 12:44 AM

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Man I can't wait to see how the shock rifle works

nimble crest Sep 5, 2020, 12:44 AM

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Sent a pic of what I’m talking about

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Probably shocky

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Isn’t the focus rifle back

west silo Sep 5, 2020, 12:48 AM

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The focus rifle is garbage

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But from what we seen from some of the art it looks like its shooting lightning

cedar surge Sep 5, 2020, 12:52 AM

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The shock rifle is unsc right

nimble crest Sep 5, 2020, 12:53 AM

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@cedar surge that’s the kind of stuff I want to make in infinite

west silo Sep 5, 2020, 12:53 AM

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We dont even know if it is lightning
Its all speculation really

unique rune Sep 5, 2020, 1:03 AM

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I'm still really not sure how I feel about GEN3 Mk.VII.

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It doesn't look bad, but it's also kinda... nothing-y.

feral perch Sep 5, 2020, 1:03 AM

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agreed

nimble crest Sep 5, 2020, 1:03 AM

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Wdym

feral perch Sep 5, 2020, 1:03 AM

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It’s just bland

unique rune Sep 5, 2020, 1:04 AM

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Yeah, it just doesn't really have any interesting design elements to me.

nimble crest Sep 5, 2020, 1:04 AM

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It reminds me like a cross between new and old, and looks like a template for great customization and building onto

unique rune Sep 5, 2020, 1:05 AM

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I'm still a bit miffed that they're dropping Chief's unique modified Mk.VI from 4/5. Really did like that design.

nimble crest Sep 5, 2020, 1:06 AM

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It was icky I didn’t really enjoy because it wasn’t right for him

gilded mason Sep 5, 2020, 1:06 AM

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I'm happy about the MK VII, myself. Looks similar to the MK V, which was my favorite set.

nimble crest Sep 5, 2020, 1:06 AM

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^

inner basin Sep 5, 2020, 1:07 AM

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@inner basin
He was composed and then placed inside a monitor shell
@west silo Oh... you’re referring to Chakas. My b. (Sorry for interrupting the current conversation btw)

feral perch Sep 5, 2020, 1:07 AM

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I would’ve preferred something closer-looking to Mark IV

unique rune Sep 5, 2020, 1:08 AM

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I'm not especially happy about GEN3 Mk.VI because I just don't like most of Halo 3's armor in general. For the most part, again, they aren't bad, I just kinda feel nothing when I look at them. Mk.VI is fine but even then I just don't have strong feelings or associations related to it.

nimble crest Sep 5, 2020, 1:08 AM

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Hopefully you can customize the armor to your liking

west silo Sep 5, 2020, 1:08 AM

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In multiplayer or campaign?

nimble crest Sep 5, 2020, 1:09 AM

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I wonder if they’ll add stuff like ghillies shrugs and less linear progression and mods

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Multiplayer and stuffs

west silo Sep 5, 2020, 1:09 AM

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Oh

inner basin Sep 5, 2020, 1:09 AM

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I'm not especially happy about GEN3 Mk.VI because I just don't like most of Halo 3's armor in general. For the most part, again, they aren't bad, I just kinda feel nothing when I look at them. Mk.VI is fine but even then I just don't have strong feelings or associations related to it.
What about Mk. VI in Reach? Do you like that design (although it’s only really the helmet)

unique rune Sep 5, 2020, 1:10 AM

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I thought Reach's Mk.VI helmet was fine. Pretty much the same attitude towards it as Halo 2/3's.

nimble crest Sep 5, 2020, 1:10 AM

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I couldn’t bring myself to like the helmet in Reach it was odd

west silo Sep 5, 2020, 1:10 AM

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It was alright

nimble crest Sep 5, 2020, 1:10 AM

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Can’t describe it

inner basin Sep 5, 2020, 1:10 AM

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I liked how you could have different attachments on the side. It really made me feel like a Spartan-III commando

feral perch Sep 5, 2020, 1:10 AM

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I like Reach’s Mark V

nimble crest Sep 5, 2020, 1:11 AM

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I like the mk5 helmet wish you could get the gen 3 uplink on it

unique rune Sep 5, 2020, 1:11 AM

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I think EOD is probably my favorite helmet from Reach.
Not too big on its 3/4 iterations but the Reach variant is fantastic.

nimble crest Sep 5, 2020, 1:11 AM

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I agree

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So can we all agree up armored Eva makes people kill them selves

inner basin Sep 5, 2020, 1:12 AM

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My favourite armour sets in Halo Reach are the base set (Mk. V[B]), Mk. IV[G], Mk. V, Commando, and the Mk. VI (with Mk. V shoulder pauldrons)

west silo Sep 5, 2020, 1:13 AM

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I honestly find Eva helmet very ugly

inner basin Sep 5, 2020, 1:13 AM

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I’m not the biggest EVA fan. I mean I remember Halo 5 having so many EVA ripoffs

west silo Sep 5, 2020, 1:13 AM

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I understand why it like that I just don't like it

unique rune Sep 5, 2020, 1:14 AM

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Yeah, Halo 5 really went overboard with the big dome visor style helmets.

inner basin Sep 5, 2020, 1:14 AM

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I mean it’s weird that I’m not an EVA fan because I really do like base SPI armour (and they both kinda look similar)

nimble crest Sep 5, 2020, 1:15 AM

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I like Eva and I wish pilot wasn’t so slim

west silo Sep 5, 2020, 1:15 AM

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The recruit armor is one of my favorite halo 5 sets

nimble crest Sep 5, 2020, 1:15 AM

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@inner basin can you explain that one a bit better

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The armor set thing

inner basin Sep 5, 2020, 1:17 AM

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What armour set thing are you talking about. The one where I mention SPI?

nimble crest Sep 5, 2020, 1:17 AM

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No your favorite sets

inner basin Sep 5, 2020, 1:18 AM

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Okay, what do you want me to elaborate on exactly?

nimble crest Sep 5, 2020, 1:18 AM

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I didn’t understand what you meant, is that like in a order

inner basin Sep 5, 2020, 1:20 AM

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No, there isn’t really an order. I just happened to type them out like that

nimble crest Sep 5, 2020, 1:21 AM

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Aye

west silo Sep 5, 2020, 1:22 AM

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He likes spi but hates the Eva helmet

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Or something like that

nimble crest Sep 5, 2020, 1:22 AM

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I like the mk v (b) helmet with both attachments, mk 5 shoulder plates, recon chest, tacpad, soft case, air assault knees, sage green and black secondary for my spartan

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Works for my cat 2 spartan story

inner basin Sep 5, 2020, 1:26 AM

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Nice. Hope it works out well!

nimble crest Sep 5, 2020, 1:27 AM

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Thank you, made a couple of forge maps to create a environment. That’s how this started actually, when the forge update came I made a map or 3 and then I started writing

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And a bit of playing around in spartan customization to make a team for ya boy cat 2

inner basin Sep 5, 2020, 1:31 AM

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You remind me of an old friend of mine who used to be in this server. He was a really big Spartan-III enthusiast like yourself and I. He must’ve left or something while I was inactive on here

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Yeah, I love tinkering around in Halo Reach making armour combinations then seeing them in gameplay. In my free time I also write Spartan-III character portfolios. I wrote one for a Spartan-II but felt too restricted and one on a Spartan-IV but really didn’t have enough battles to flesh out his Spartan career. It was mostly his ODST combat experience, which was still fun, but not as enjoyable as fleshing out my OC Spartan-IIIs

cedar surge Sep 5, 2020, 1:35 AM

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What's weird is that chief is wearing mark sux while the new armor is mark 7

inner basin Sep 5, 2020, 1:35 AM

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Mark sux 😂 I guess that’s what people can call it if they don’t like it

nimble crest Sep 5, 2020, 1:36 AM

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Yeh, I’m making this story about basically on IIIs that get sent on the ops with the lowest life probability. And live. But the leader almost died in a previous op

cedar surge Sep 5, 2020, 1:36 AM

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I'm reading a fanfiction about a marije

nimble crest Sep 5, 2020, 1:37 AM

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Name of the spartan leader is Jermaine

cedar surge Sep 5, 2020, 1:37 AM

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Its very good so faar

inner basin Sep 5, 2020, 1:38 AM

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Yeh, I’m making this story about basically on IIIs that get sent on the ops with the lowest life probability. And live. But the leader almost died in a previous op
That honestly sounds like it’d be better if made into a Headhunter story. I don’t want to dull your creative freedoms, but Cat-2 Spartan-IIIs weren’t necessarily sent on suicide missions