#lore-and-universe | Halo | Page 390

unique rune Aug 31, 2020, 10:06 PM

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I know it's still just concept art but I'm not fully into the colors and maybe some of the shaping on 'Rdomnai's armor.

gilded mason Aug 31, 2020, 10:06 PM

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The helmet shape is a bit iffy for me, yeah

carmine sleet Aug 31, 2020, 10:07 PM

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Helmet's likely a modified Brute one, given similarities to the one the Brute Captain wore in the gameplay demo

cedar surge Aug 31, 2020, 10:08 PM

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on to GEN1 Mark VII, Im glad forerunner derived nano machines aint in

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good article

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and the concept art for the armor looks really good

unique rune Aug 31, 2020, 10:14 PM

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I'm curious what other things Hannaford is responsible for, now that we know he's contributing to Infinite's art direction.

cedar surge Aug 31, 2020, 10:14 PM

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i hope much

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i really like it

dreamy quarry Aug 31, 2020, 10:22 PM

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i'm excited for the new elite character

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it's been a while since we've had a new badass elite villain

cedar surge Aug 31, 2020, 10:26 PM

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anything banished im excited for

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they are my 3rd favorite faction

dreamy quarry Aug 31, 2020, 10:28 PM

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i hope in the future there's a new covenant faction that uses a lot more forerunner technology just to get the purple and orange color scheme

unique rune Aug 31, 2020, 10:30 PM

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I'm still hoping that the Banished we've seen in Infinite so far get some changes made to their visuals because I'm kinda disappointed they seem to mostly just be doing a 'Covenant, but again' thing instead of 'Covenant but pointy and red and silver'.

cedar surge Aug 31, 2020, 10:30 PM

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i hope later for a brand new faction that actually is cool and visually interesting

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most factions are just the covenant 2: electric boogaloo

dreamy quarry Aug 31, 2020, 10:31 PM

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i just want new cool species

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i like the original ones but they're overusing them

cedar surge Aug 31, 2020, 10:31 PM

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i like the banished since its a brute led army

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and new designs

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and not jsut covenant but bug

gilded mason Aug 31, 2020, 10:31 PM

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i like the original ones but they're overusing them```
I agree. Get rid of humans.

cedar surge Aug 31, 2020, 10:32 PM

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i agree. get rid of elites

gilded mason Aug 31, 2020, 10:32 PM

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I agree. Get rid of you.

dreamy quarry Aug 31, 2020, 10:32 PM

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i think the elites should still be around but be extremely rare so they're actually sorta cool when you run across them

cedar surge Aug 31, 2020, 10:32 PM

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nah

craggy sierra Aug 31, 2020, 10:33 PM

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I feel like Halo has a long ways to go before it runs out of stories to tell with its current cast of races.

cedar surge Aug 31, 2020, 10:33 PM

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dont make species rare

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for example

gilded mason Aug 31, 2020, 10:33 PM

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It'd be kinda silly for the species we know suddenly becoming sparce

cedar surge Aug 31, 2020, 10:33 PM

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maybe a jackal faction?

gilded mason Aug 31, 2020, 10:33 PM

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Also this

unique rune Aug 31, 2020, 10:33 PM

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“oh whoops the Jiralhanae nuked themselves back into the Stone Age again, so we won’t be seeing them again for a while”

craggy sierra Aug 31, 2020, 10:33 PM

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They are known to be pirates

cedar surge Aug 31, 2020, 10:34 PM

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they also have governments

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of matriarch queens

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and they allied togther

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i just dont want the covenant 2 over and over again

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i want to see a faction make their own vehicles

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and weapons

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and ships

west silo Aug 31, 2020, 10:40 PM

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I just want to see the drones again

cedar surge Aug 31, 2020, 10:41 PM

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on fire?

craggy sierra Aug 31, 2020, 10:42 PM

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I mean the issue with making your own vehicles and weapons is that that requires supply chains, resource gathering operations, and dozens of other things that are usually somewhat established by a government or large business organization. The covenant kinda has very little of that since they exploded.

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The most established faction on their end is the SoS who did have their own vehicle designs

cedar surge Aug 31, 2020, 10:43 PM

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kig yar have the structure

inner basin Aug 31, 2020, 10:46 PM

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i'm excited for the new elite character
New Elite character? Did I miss something today while I was out?

gilded mason Aug 31, 2020, 10:46 PM

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New Canon Fodder

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https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/news/despite-distance

inner basin Aug 31, 2020, 10:47 PM

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Wait... Canon Fodder is back?!

gilded mason Aug 31, 2020, 10:47 PM

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He's got a robotic arm and mandibles. ❤️

inner basin Aug 31, 2020, 10:49 PM

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I must say that blood-red Energy Sword is beaut

cedar surge Aug 31, 2020, 10:50 PM

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will that be a standered for higher ranked elites?

west silo Aug 31, 2020, 10:52 PM

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He's mostly a silent shadow

inner basin Aug 31, 2020, 10:52 PM

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We don’t know if he is

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It’s stated that his background is covered in mystery, was it not?

feral perch Aug 31, 2020, 10:53 PM

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He’s a Blademaster with a red blade.

inner basin Aug 31, 2020, 10:53 PM

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Ah, yes, I found the mention of Blademaster

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My bad

feral perch Aug 31, 2020, 10:54 PM

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But that doesn’t mean he’s Silent Shadow.

gilded mason Aug 31, 2020, 10:54 PM

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We don’t know if he is```
> a brand-new character you might find lurking **silentl**y in the **shadow**s
I'd say it's likely.

feral perch Aug 31, 2020, 10:54 PM

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hmm

west silo Aug 31, 2020, 10:54 PM

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Just about to say that

gilded mason Aug 31, 2020, 10:55 PM

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No reason to say it like that, otherwise

inner basin Aug 31, 2020, 10:56 PM

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Well a theory I thought of for the red energy sword in the short time that I’ve heard about it is that the red energy sword was first tested by high ranking/silent shadow Elites in the Banished, but now it’s been broadened to more Elites in the Banished

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I think having red energy swords would be more sick than the blue ones tbh

west silo Aug 31, 2020, 10:57 PM

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I like that he's going to be like a maradaur type enemy that u will constantly meet in the campaign

inner basin Aug 31, 2020, 10:58 PM

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Gives me Zuka vibes

west silo Aug 31, 2020, 10:58 PM

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Though it does kinda remind me of warden eternal

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Just give him a grunt partner

craggy sierra Aug 31, 2020, 10:59 PM

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Oh crap I just noticed the robo-arm

inner basin Aug 31, 2020, 10:59 PM

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Make the grunt just as BA as the Elite this time instead of having a cowardly Grunt trying to flee all the time

west silo Aug 31, 2020, 11:00 PM

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Sooo make him yapyap

gilded mason Aug 31, 2020, 11:00 PM

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And mandibles! You love to see it.

inner basin Aug 31, 2020, 11:01 PM

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Sooo make him yapyap
Yap yap isn’t a BA, he’s a meme in the Halo community

west silo Aug 31, 2020, 11:01 PM

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I do remember the time in the fall of reach where a grunt nearly killed chief

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Alright sloth then

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Now he's BA

inner basin Aug 31, 2020, 11:01 PM

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I do remember the time in the fall of reach where a grunt nearly killed chief
Sounds like a HaloFollower video title tbh

west silo Aug 31, 2020, 11:02 PM

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No its actually real

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A grunt tried putting a plasma grenade in his suit

cedar surge Aug 31, 2020, 11:02 PM

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"Is this the alien we havnt seen in years?'" shows picture of a really blurry elite

west silo Aug 31, 2020, 11:03 PM

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Eh?

cedar surge Aug 31, 2020, 11:03 PM

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wait what

fair hazel Aug 31, 2020, 11:03 PM

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canon fodder!

cedar surge Aug 31, 2020, 11:03 PM

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how do you put a plasma grenade in the suit

west silo Aug 31, 2020, 11:03 PM

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Neck area I guess

cedar surge Aug 31, 2020, 11:03 PM

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doubt it

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there is not enough space anywhere

west silo Aug 31, 2020, 11:04 PM

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Well it kinda happened

cedar surge Aug 31, 2020, 11:04 PM

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unless you use the ammo pockets

fair hazel Aug 31, 2020, 11:04 PM

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https://content.halocdn.com/media/Default/community/CANON_FODDER_Franchise/cf_jegardomnai_concept-4b4640b55d8c498abd2adb8ef29fec79.jpg

gilded mason Aug 31, 2020, 11:05 PM

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😊

west silo Aug 31, 2020, 11:05 PM

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I only remember its the scene when chief is running from a bunch of grunts leading them in a trap and one got onto him

fair hazel Aug 31, 2020, 11:05 PM

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Ooo

cedar surge Aug 31, 2020, 11:05 PM

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some people are complaining about the blockyness of the banished

west silo Aug 31, 2020, 11:05 PM

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I actually kinda like the helmet

cedar surge Aug 31, 2020, 11:06 PM

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reminds me of a prophet

west silo Aug 31, 2020, 11:06 PM

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It shows that he's working for the brutes now

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Although the armor kinda looks like something a krogan would wear

cedar surge Aug 31, 2020, 11:07 PM

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dont insult red ravioli

fair hazel Aug 31, 2020, 11:08 PM

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that sword

cedar surge Aug 31, 2020, 11:08 PM

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what about it

fair hazel Aug 31, 2020, 11:10 PM

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Yess

cedar surge Aug 31, 2020, 11:10 PM

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what about prophets bane

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or flood sword

craggy sierra Aug 31, 2020, 11:12 PM

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Actually

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...

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This is starting to look like Raiden

cedar surge Aug 31, 2020, 11:12 PM

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metal gear?

craggy sierra Aug 31, 2020, 11:12 PM

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Yeah

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It’s Raiden if Rising gave him a skin based off of bladewolf

gilded mason Aug 31, 2020, 11:13 PM

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That's...dead-on

craggy sierra Aug 31, 2020, 11:14 PM

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https://images.app.goo.gl/tdSGLVfoNZu56kcd9

gilded mason Aug 31, 2020, 11:14 PM

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Good ol' Dog-Shaped Robot Buddy.

craggy sierra Aug 31, 2020, 11:15 PM

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https://images.app.goo.gl/wDT1Mnoee8f1t6gi7

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I did like Bladewolf a lot

cedar surge Aug 31, 2020, 11:15 PM

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reading canon fodder 6is fun

craggy sierra Aug 31, 2020, 11:15 PM

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But that is those two concepts applied to an elite and I’m never gonna unsee it

cedar surge Aug 31, 2020, 11:17 PM

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so is the lore drought over?

versed helm Aug 31, 2020, 11:18 PM

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we've merely had a sip

gilded mason Aug 31, 2020, 11:18 PM

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I hope

cedar surge Aug 31, 2020, 11:18 PM

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feels like the galaxy was frozen

urban knot Aug 31, 2020, 11:18 PM

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Hello

cedar surge Aug 31, 2020, 11:18 PM

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hi

urban knot Aug 31, 2020, 11:18 PM

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I am very new to halo community

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I have just started to play

terse lava Aug 31, 2020, 11:19 PM

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A new Sangheili character, that was glorious to read

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greetings Rockstar

versed helm Aug 31, 2020, 11:20 PM

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that armor though 😍

terse lava Aug 31, 2020, 11:20 PM

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I know right???

versed helm Aug 31, 2020, 11:20 PM

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both the sangheili's and the mk-vii

cedar surge Aug 31, 2020, 11:20 PM

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the new book will also have a short story

fringe robin Aug 31, 2020, 11:20 PM

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yeah I had to make it my PFP

cedar surge Aug 31, 2020, 11:20 PM

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called sacrifice

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i wish for comics

west silo Aug 31, 2020, 11:21 PM

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And they did say a new book is coming

versed helm Aug 31, 2020, 11:21 PM

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hold on

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did they just....insinuate that ||The Silent Shadow are going to be in Infinite||

terse lava Aug 31, 2020, 11:22 PM

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yes pretty much

gilded mason Aug 31, 2020, 11:22 PM

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Ye

terse lava Aug 31, 2020, 11:22 PM

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or at least that Jega was among them originally

versed helm Aug 31, 2020, 11:22 PM

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I only just now caught that. was too busy oogling the armor

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if he was any type of officer, his unit likely followed him to the Banished

terse lava Aug 31, 2020, 11:23 PM

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what I am curious though is this "Hand of Atriox," i that implying he was perhaps the first sangheili to join the Banished?

versed helm Aug 31, 2020, 11:23 PM

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oh man

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if he was any type of officer, his unit likely followed him to the Banished
yeah, that there reinforces what I said here even more

west silo Aug 31, 2020, 11:23 PM

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Am more disappointed that the new armor won't have any forerunner nanomachines

cedar surge Aug 31, 2020, 11:23 PM

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wait what

terse lava Aug 31, 2020, 11:24 PM

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well we only know of one Silent Shadoow unit joining the Banished

cedar surge Aug 31, 2020, 11:24 PM

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i thought that new book meant SoR

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we getting 2 this year?

unique rune Aug 31, 2020, 11:24 PM

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No

gilded mason Aug 31, 2020, 11:24 PM

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The less Forerunner-integrated stuff, the better

cedar surge Aug 31, 2020, 11:24 PM

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yea

unique rune Aug 31, 2020, 11:24 PM

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It was referring to a limited edition of Shadows of Reach that’ll be exclusive to Walmart

cedar surge Aug 31, 2020, 11:24 PM

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oh

west silo Aug 31, 2020, 11:25 PM

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i thought that new book meant SoR
@cedar surge
Look at the end of the article a new book is on the horizon

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Wait really?

cedar surge Aug 31, 2020, 11:25 PM

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you guys didnt read the whole artilce?

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also yea

gilded mason Aug 31, 2020, 11:26 PM

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And with that, we move on for now. However, I just might kinda maybe have a draft for Issue 109 already in progress. There just so happens to be a new book coming out fairly soon, after all…
Yeah. That's talking about Shadows of Reach, not something else.

cedar surge Aug 31, 2020, 11:26 PM

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the unsc should not be using forerunner level stuff that easily

unique rune Aug 31, 2020, 11:26 PM

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Normally I just borrow books from the library to read but I might have to make an exception for this

cedar surge Aug 31, 2020, 11:26 PM

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yea

terse lava Aug 31, 2020, 11:26 PM

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agreed, even the Covenant took their time with forerunner tech

west silo Aug 31, 2020, 11:27 PM

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Oh okay

cedar surge Aug 31, 2020, 11:27 PM

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i think the unsc should have gotten most of teir tech upgrade from the covenant

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forerunners make no sense this soon

west silo Aug 31, 2020, 11:28 PM

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Isn't most of the unsc tech reversed from covenant?

cedar surge Aug 31, 2020, 11:28 PM

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its like a guy with a rowboat trying to understand a destroer

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some from forerunner

west silo Aug 31, 2020, 11:28 PM

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Just some

cedar surge Aug 31, 2020, 11:28 PM

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some is too much for me

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the forerunners are centuries ahead of humanity tech wise

gilded mason Aug 31, 2020, 11:30 PM

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I'd say a bit more than "centuries". 😋

west silo Aug 31, 2020, 11:30 PM

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Am actually more surprised they don't do it more since onyx is literally forerunner tech heaven

cedar surge Aug 31, 2020, 11:30 PM

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i hope onyx flies into the sun

west silo Aug 31, 2020, 11:31 PM

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I'd say a bit more than "centuries". 😋
@gilded mason
Remember the entire plot point of humans being reclaimers? sun

cedar surge Aug 31, 2020, 11:31 PM

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that means that we can activate the tech

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its like turning on a car

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just cause you can use it

terse lava Aug 31, 2020, 11:31 PM

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speaking of shieldworlds, I wonder what happened to the Ussans and Enduring Bias once the Created hit

cedar surge Aug 31, 2020, 11:31 PM

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doesnt mean you understand it

west silo Aug 31, 2020, 11:32 PM

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doesnt mean you understand it
@cedar surge
Humans don't even understand the forerunner engines and the infinity is using one

cedar surge Aug 31, 2020, 11:33 PM

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they slapped the engines onto i

west silo Aug 31, 2020, 11:33 PM

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Just because they don't understand it doesn't mean they won't use it

cedar surge Aug 31, 2020, 11:33 PM

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not reverse engineered

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however some suits use forerunner nanobots

terse lava Aug 31, 2020, 11:34 PM

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kinda says a lot when humans just use forerunner tech without understanding it, meanwhile the Covenant studied it deeply before slapping it on their own stuff

cedar surge Aug 31, 2020, 11:34 PM

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forerunnes are tens of thousands years ahead tech wie

gilded mason Aug 31, 2020, 11:34 PM

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Millions, more like

cedar surge Aug 31, 2020, 11:34 PM

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343 made humanity speed run forerunner tech

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4 years

west silo Aug 31, 2020, 11:35 PM

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kinda says a lot when humans just use forerunner tech without understanding it, meanwhile the Covenant studied it deeply before slapping it on their own stuff
@terse lava
Technically that had more to do with the prophet keeping the good stuff to them selves

cedar surge Aug 31, 2020, 11:35 PM

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4 years was this timeframe

terse lava Aug 31, 2020, 11:35 PM

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that doesn't discredit the fact the Sangheili before the Covenant and the Covenant proper put more care into forerunner tech then humans

cedar surge Aug 31, 2020, 11:35 PM

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no way

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humanity took 30 years t reverse engineer cvenant tech

west silo Aug 31, 2020, 11:36 PM

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Well the elites didn't really have a get to use forerunner tech free card

cedar surge Aug 31, 2020, 11:36 PM

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and in under 4 are easily replicatingforerunner tech?

unique rune Aug 31, 2020, 11:36 PM

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I don't mind the Forerunner tech stuff too much but giving it some thought
strapping Forerunner engines onto the Infinity was such an utterly insane plan

terse lava Aug 31, 2020, 11:36 PM

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true, they had to work for it

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and became better for it

west silo Aug 31, 2020, 11:37 PM

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and in under 4 are easily replicatingforerunner tech?
@cedar surge
What forerunner tech have they easily replicated?

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I don't mind the Forerunner tech stuff too much but giving it some thought
strapping Forerunner engines onto the Infinity was such an utterly insane plan
@unique rune
Remember the infinity was going to be a lifeboat to run away from the covenant they needed the fastest thing

unique rune Aug 31, 2020, 11:38 PM

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Yeah, but they're still a borderline complete unknown

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Fast, but outside of one single person no one comes close to even understanding how they work

terse lava Aug 31, 2020, 11:38 PM

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even Halsey's knowledge is rather limited

west silo Aug 31, 2020, 11:39 PM

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and became better for it
@terse lava
Didn't humans develop better shields by essentially speed running it

cedar surge Aug 31, 2020, 11:39 PM

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halfway through the war the figured it out

terse lava Aug 31, 2020, 11:39 PM

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yeah that was half-way through the war

cedar surge Aug 31, 2020, 11:39 PM

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15 years

gilded mason Aug 31, 2020, 11:39 PM

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Better than Minors, at least. Higher ranking ones have better shields, though

terse lava Aug 31, 2020, 11:40 PM

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that too ^

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at best, they got shields like a major sangheili

west silo Aug 31, 2020, 11:40 PM

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Better than Minors, at least. Higher ranking ones have better shields, though
@gilded mason
Remember that time chief survived getting shot by 6 hunters?

terse lava Aug 31, 2020, 11:40 PM

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hm?

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oh that comic?

west silo Aug 31, 2020, 11:41 PM

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Yes that comic

gilded mason Aug 31, 2020, 11:41 PM

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I also remember the time a Spartan got vaporized by a hunter blast.

west silo Aug 31, 2020, 11:41 PM

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A Spartan 3

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In spi

terse lava Aug 31, 2020, 11:41 PM

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you forgot Will

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he was blasted too

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dropped like a bag of potatos

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and he was an S2

west silo Aug 31, 2020, 11:42 PM

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you forgot Will
@terse lava
His shields were malfunctioning remember?

terse lava Aug 31, 2020, 11:43 PM

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hm will need to find my copy and check that, I don't recall that at the moment

gilded mason Aug 31, 2020, 11:46 PM

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The Hunter shot him.

Will's energy shield vanished, and the front of his MJOLNIR armor melted. He took a step toward the beast, and collapsed.```

west silo Aug 31, 2020, 11:48 PM

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In an earlier scene its mentioned that his aren't functioning properly

cedar surge Aug 31, 2020, 11:48 PM

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well

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that sounds anti climatic

west silo Aug 31, 2020, 11:49 PM

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And that time a Spartan survived a beamshot to the head

terse lava Aug 31, 2020, 11:49 PM

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im sorry what?

gilded mason Aug 31, 2020, 11:49 PM

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Know the quote? Because I can't find it. Either way, Elites still have shields that can block 5 sniper rifle shots. And I imagine a Spartan wouldn't be able to do the same.

west silo Aug 31, 2020, 11:50 PM

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that sounds anti climatic
@cedar surge
He had just murdered a hunter in hth combat

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im sorry what?
@terse lava
Bloodlines

cedar surge Aug 31, 2020, 11:50 PM

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oh

terse lava Aug 31, 2020, 11:51 PM

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hm wonder when the energy shield was actually developed for Sangheili. If memory serves correctly, they and san'shyuum had active camo tech pre-Covenant, but in Broken Circle it appears oddly energy shields have not been invented yet

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Bloodlines huh? alright then

gilded mason Aug 31, 2020, 11:51 PM

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Would match the UNSC's development timeline

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Since they also got that working before shielding

west silo Aug 31, 2020, 11:55 PM

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Oh yeah remember the grunt thing with the plasma grenade found it

terse lava Aug 31, 2020, 11:55 PM

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true

west silo Aug 31, 2020, 11:55 PM

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Its page 54 -55

gilded mason Aug 31, 2020, 11:55 PM

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Quote a little bit of it, since page numbers vary by a lot across the many additions and formats

west silo Aug 31, 2020, 11:58 PM

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A trio of additional Grunts landed on the Master Chief’s shoulders and grabbed hold. It was almost laughable, until the Spartan realized that one of them was trying to remove his helmet. A second alien carried an ignited plasma grenade

gilded mason Aug 31, 2020, 11:58 PM

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You love to see it.

terse lava Aug 31, 2020, 11:58 PM

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I still love that part

west silo Aug 31, 2020, 11:58 PM

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Unfortunately its tells me the rest has prohibited texts

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 12:09 AM

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Couldn't chief just jump on his back and crush the grunts

terse lava Sep 1, 2020, 12:16 AM

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He chose to shake them off like a wet dog

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 12:16 AM

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How merciful

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Hey wait a second

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Could have the grunts just ripped hum limb from limb?

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I wonder how tough gen 3 shielding is

gilded mason Sep 1, 2020, 12:23 AM

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Ye

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 12:23 AM

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So they were putting in more effort than they had to?

gilded mason Sep 1, 2020, 12:24 AM

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I guess they'd have needed to get hyped for it lol

terse lava Sep 1, 2020, 12:27 AM

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I can just now imagine the peptalk the unggoy major gave to his two fellows

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 2:19 AM

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It probably went for the nipple lol

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“me and flipyap went to nipple academy together, no it was yapflip, flipyap was his brotherrr”

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 2:51 AM

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The new Gen 3 MK VII looks like a mix of MK V(B) and the Commando/Noble armor

fringe robin Sep 1, 2020, 3:12 AM

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Yeah I like it

dense pulsar Sep 1, 2020, 3:34 AM

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Who keeps coming up with these Nobel 6 is alive in a cave theories?

fringe robin Sep 1, 2020, 3:37 AM

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I think almost all of them are trolls, Bungie specifically said Noble 6 was dead

unique rune Sep 1, 2020, 3:47 AM

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~~Tony Stark built this in a cave!~~

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 3:53 AM

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Noble 6 is dead end of discussion

candid laurel Sep 1, 2020, 4:09 AM

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no his just missing in action

grand forge Sep 1, 2020, 4:14 AM

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alright, i think i found a good channel to ask this question, what is Halo and where can i find a video about its full story?

dense pulsar Sep 1, 2020, 4:16 AM

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Imo, it would be better to play the games than watch lore videos because there's probably things you'll miss if you don't really experience it for yourself

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The other media is probably more canon than the games in a way though. The games kinda lead you to believe Master Chief is the absolute last Spartan but thats not the case

grand forge Sep 1, 2020, 4:18 AM

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ok, so who is Master Chief?

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with a name like that its pretty safe to assume hes a "big boi"

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@dense pulsar you there?

dense pulsar Sep 1, 2020, 4:21 AM

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Yea

grand forge Sep 1, 2020, 4:22 AM

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so what is his rank then?

dense pulsar Sep 1, 2020, 4:22 AM

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Well, Master Chief is an actual rank in the Navy

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So, Master Chief

grand forge Sep 1, 2020, 4:22 AM

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so he isnt a marine?

gilded mason Sep 1, 2020, 4:22 AM

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Nope

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He's in the navy

grand forge Sep 1, 2020, 4:23 AM

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so like when hes fighting with marines its like a joint op kind of thing?

gilded mason Sep 1, 2020, 4:23 AM

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Yeah

dense pulsar Sep 1, 2020, 4:23 AM

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There's like maybe two positions he can get above that

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Command Master Chief which means he'd be in charge of all the enlisted personnel at a single command

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And then Master Chief Petty Officer of The Navy

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Which is the highest any enlisted person can go

grand forge Sep 1, 2020, 4:24 AM

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why doesnt he have Command master chief?

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like, he's the master chief, why would they neuter him like that?

gilded mason Sep 1, 2020, 4:25 AM

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Because he doesn't need a higher rank.

dense pulsar Sep 1, 2020, 4:25 AM

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Because he's meant more for combat and he also probably doesn't have the quals for it

grand forge Sep 1, 2020, 4:25 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/halo-masterchief-nod-gif-12948347

dense pulsar Sep 1, 2020, 4:26 AM

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The thing about the Navy, is that there's actual quals you need to do to actually be able to do your job

grand forge Sep 1, 2020, 4:26 AM

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so if this dude doesnt have the highest rank, who does?

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 4:26 AM

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Hood

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Chief was offered the rank of admiral

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But he turned it down

dense pulsar Sep 1, 2020, 4:27 AM

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I don't think Mpoc is a named character

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Does Master Chief even have a rate?

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I think it'd be something like Special Operator

opal birch Sep 1, 2020, 4:28 AM

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Also CMCs are more like command billets anyway aren't they? I'm not a Navy guy.

grand forge Sep 1, 2020, 4:29 AM

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ok, should i play the games first or watch a video covering lore so im not just running in blind?

gilded mason Sep 1, 2020, 4:29 AM

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Play the games first, I'd say

opal birch Sep 1, 2020, 4:30 AM

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^

dense pulsar Sep 1, 2020, 4:30 AM

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Yea SSD, you'd have to be attached to an actual command to get CMC

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Its something you get on shore duty

opal birch Sep 1, 2020, 4:31 AM

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yeah most of my Navy experience is mostly from interacting with sailors when I was on a MEU

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and the MC is definitely not the type to regulate himself to a shore establishment

dense pulsar Sep 1, 2020, 4:32 AM

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I'm in the Navy right now but I'm a junior sailor, so im not too important to too much on the ship

opal birch Sep 1, 2020, 4:33 AM

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I got out 3 years ago. Terminal Lance baby

dense pulsar Sep 1, 2020, 4:35 AM

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I got a 5 year contract because I'm a Submariner, the best type of marine, but I've been in for 2 already

opal birch Sep 1, 2020, 4:37 AM

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cool

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Though how can you say you're the best type of marine? You don't eat nearly enough crayons to have that title.

dense pulsar Sep 1, 2020, 4:38 AM

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You not wrong lmao

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When I was in A school, I remember someone came from a different command, I forgot if they were an LS or CS but apparently crayon eating is something they saw

grand iris Sep 1, 2020, 4:40 AM

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Heard about the crayon part... Is that true?

opal birch Sep 1, 2020, 4:42 AM

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I mean if you've seen Terminal Lance's Twitter or Instagram, Marines do some hilariously dumb things when we're bored. @grand iris I don't know, at a minimum, it's part of the stereotype of Marines being dumb

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though the stereotype of being dumb grunts applies to Army Infantry too

unique rune Sep 1, 2020, 4:45 AM

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so what color crayons taste the best

gilded mason Sep 1, 2020, 4:45 AM

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Purple because it's grape flavor

opal birch Sep 1, 2020, 4:46 AM

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Give a marine anything jalapeño cheese spread flavored and they'll take it

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or some chili mac flavored stuff

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Give me all the orange crayons EMPEROR

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 5:06 AM

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Well there are some complete movies of the halo saga

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16 hours long for one I found

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 5:23 AM

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The new elite does not look like a power ranger

grand forge Sep 1, 2020, 5:34 AM

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Full movies?

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Where do I watch them?

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 5:35 AM

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You can find them on youtube

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But I recommend playing the games

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Sometimes characters say important stuff during gameplay

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And its better to get the halo experience by playing through them

unique rune Sep 1, 2020, 5:44 AM

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I would suggest picking up a copy of Halo Mythos if you’re really interested in the wider reaches of the Halo universe instead of going through videos
Borrow it from a library, buy a copy, either way

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It’s a very nice summary of all the major points in the timeline from the time of the Forerunners up until around the events of Halo Wars 2

The art in it is also quite good

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 5:59 AM

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How exactly did Lasky's brother die?

unique rune Sep 1, 2020, 6:17 AM

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Doesn’t look like we have any specifics other than “killed by Innies on Andesia”.

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 6:24 AM

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we see him watching clips his brother sent in forward unto dawn, right?

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he keeps placing shells on his table

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 6:39 AM

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hmm

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And was corbulo marine or naval academy

gilded mason Sep 1, 2020, 6:41 AM

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Seems people who learned there would go on to serve one of various branches

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https://www.halopedia.org/Corbulo_Academy_of_Military_Science#Curriculum

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 7:31 AM

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I wonder what odsts look like now

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 7:31 AM

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advanced armour, maybe

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not spartan level, but better than what they had

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 7:32 AM

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Hopefully still keeps that odst look

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There was that concept art but I don't like it much

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 7:33 AM

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not gonna lie, im kinda hoping it looks a bit like dead space armour

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the helmet design

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not the rest, though

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 7:33 AM

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Who thinks putting a easy access handle for a brute or elite to grab is a good idea

candid laurel Sep 1, 2020, 7:33 AM

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Don't worry as of Halo Infinite the old style is back

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 7:33 AM

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Yea its a combination

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And I'm really liking how tgings look so far

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Though I'm a bit disappointed that the banished will have troops with covenant colors

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But over all I'm happy with everything

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 7:36 AM

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they cant really change the colour of the armour they salvaged

candid laurel Sep 1, 2020, 7:36 AM

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you know what i want to see in Halo Infinite the return of the Arbiter

gilded mason Sep 1, 2020, 7:36 AM

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Well, we can hope.

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 7:36 AM

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i think we will see him

candid laurel Sep 1, 2020, 7:37 AM

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I just want to see them fighting together again

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Arbiter sees Chief as a friend and respects him a lot

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and i think Chiefs views him the same

craggy sierra Sep 1, 2020, 7:43 AM

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Tbh I don’t know why

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They spent all of Halo 3 never actually speaking to eachother

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That share like 2 sentences with eachother that entire game

candid laurel Sep 1, 2020, 7:43 AM

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Chief barely talks but seeing them makes nods and stuff means that they're on good terms with each other

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like chief giving the arbiter the killing blow to Truth

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nodding his head afterwords

craggy sierra Sep 1, 2020, 7:45 AM

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The game opened with the chief ready to give him an 10mm root canal

candid laurel Sep 1, 2020, 7:45 AM

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that's because they're was mistrust at first

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remember chief was fighting Elites before they first met

craggy sierra Sep 1, 2020, 7:45 AM

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Him refusing to acknowledge Arbiter’s existence for the rest of the game doesn’t exactly give me a strong impression of a bond having formed

candid laurel Sep 1, 2020, 7:46 AM

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you sure because the Arbiter stuck by with Chief by the end of the game

gilded mason Sep 1, 2020, 7:46 AM

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To be honest, John was fairly quick to declare Guilty Spark a friend. So there is some precedence.

candid laurel Sep 1, 2020, 7:47 AM

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he even have gave Chief condolences after Johnsons death

gilded mason Sep 1, 2020, 7:47 AM

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And I imagine 343 was like, "Ugh, Bungie made them barely interact...let's just say they're friends now, whatever."

craggy sierra Sep 1, 2020, 7:48 AM

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He gave him condolences for what feels much more like his prowess as a warrior than him as an actual person.

candid laurel Sep 1, 2020, 7:49 AM

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well that's part of Elite culture they respect people like Chief and Johnson for their prowess as warriors

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have you not seen that cutscene in Halo 2 Arbiter called the Chief a friend

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1G2uz26smY0

craggy sierra Sep 1, 2020, 7:50 AM

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The one that got overwritten in canon with the Halo 5 interpretation where he defines them more as rivals?

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Yeah

candid laurel Sep 1, 2020, 7:50 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8H208OMJqAw

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this also confirms their friendship

craggy sierra Sep 1, 2020, 7:51 AM

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He raises the exact point I make about them not talking at all in Halo 3

gilded mason Sep 1, 2020, 7:52 AM

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Either way, 343 wants them to be friends now.

craggy sierra Sep 1, 2020, 7:52 AM

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I wish Bungie could’ve extended that courtesy 13 years ago

gilded mason Sep 1, 2020, 7:52 AM

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Yeah

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Though

Halo 3

candid laurel Sep 1, 2020, 7:53 AM

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i mean we rarely see the Chief talking to Cortana but we know they got each others back

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 7:53 AM

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not anymore, she dont

round comet Sep 1, 2020, 7:53 AM

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okay whatre we talking about

candid laurel Sep 1, 2020, 7:53 AM

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i'm talking about how Chief and the Arbiter are friends

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Wafflesauce disagrees

craggy sierra Sep 1, 2020, 7:53 AM

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Part of me is wary of seeing them together because I feel like there’s going to be this precedent to have them interact the same way they did in Halo 3. That being not at all in any way.

round comet Sep 1, 2020, 7:54 AM

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i'm talking about how Chief and the Arbiter are friends

friends is not an entirely accurate term.

gilded mason Sep 1, 2020, 7:54 AM

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Part of me is wary of seeing them together because I feel like there’s going to be this precedent to have them interact the same way they did in Halo 3. That being not at all in any way.```
Well, we can hope they don't do that.

round comet Sep 1, 2020, 7:55 AM

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you dont become friends because you saved the galaxy together.

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 7:55 AM

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their friendship was forged through almost dying......

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together

craggy sierra Sep 1, 2020, 7:55 AM

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They still share the on-screen chemistry of ritz crackers and oatmeal

round comet Sep 1, 2020, 7:56 AM

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they barely interact lol.

craggy sierra Sep 1, 2020, 7:56 AM

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I wouldn’t even know what they’d talk about in down time

candid laurel Sep 1, 2020, 7:56 AM

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Chief barely interacts with Cortana but we know they're friends

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 7:56 AM

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to be fair, you cant actually expect them to chat a lot, given that they were legit in the middle of a battle

candid laurel Sep 1, 2020, 7:56 AM

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he doesn't talk much in game

round comet Sep 1, 2020, 7:56 AM

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nothing, chief barely even talks to blue team like normal people talk to friends,

craggy sierra Sep 1, 2020, 7:56 AM

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That’s not really the case anymore since Halo 4

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And I doubt that’s going away

candid laurel Sep 1, 2020, 7:57 AM

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you don't have to have dialogue to know they're friends

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 7:57 AM

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even doomguy doesnt talk.

craggy sierra Sep 1, 2020, 7:57 AM

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So there’d be some expectation for chief to have more dialog between them in this current era of him actually having something of a personality.

round comet Sep 1, 2020, 7:58 AM

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you don't have to have dialogue to know they're friends

arbiter and cheif were like

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acquaintances

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thats really it.

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 7:58 AM

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arby has intense respect for chief

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 7:58 AM

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At least its not "how are you doing today friend"

craggy sierra Sep 1, 2020, 7:58 AM

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And to that end of having to convey chief’s personality and interactions with the Arbiter, what would they talk about?

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 7:58 AM

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Uh

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Death?

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 7:59 AM

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exactly

round comet Sep 1, 2020, 7:59 AM

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lololol.

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 7:59 AM

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"hey, pass the ammo"

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"nice sword"

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 7:59 AM

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Well they were both captured by the gravemind with tentacles

round comet Sep 1, 2020, 7:59 AM

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BAAHHAH

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 7:59 AM

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So that mighht be a bonding moment

round comet Sep 1, 2020, 7:59 AM

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"letss talk about the time we were in the hands of the giant zombie space octupus"

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 8:00 AM

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"you remember when we almost got into tentacle stuff?"

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 8:00 AM

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"Almost"

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Het why does 5 cortana look so weird

round comet Sep 1, 2020, 8:01 AM

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"good times."

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 8:01 AM

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Her face is strange

round comet Sep 1, 2020, 8:01 AM

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Het why does 5 cortana look so weird

i ask myself that question every day,

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after waking up, before going to sleep

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why....WHY????

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 8:01 AM

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she got better pixel resolution, courtesy forerunner holographic projectors

round comet Sep 1, 2020, 8:02 AM

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ske7ch

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 8:02 AM

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Oh yea,the gravemind birthday was yesterday

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 8:03 AM

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"so, uh, how are swords of sanghelios doin?"
"pretty good, pretty good. we got our planet back, actually"

craggy sierra Sep 1, 2020, 8:03 AM

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Halo 3 could’ve done so much if it used the screentime of some marines and elites acting stand-offish to eachother in Halo 3 during the slipspace jump to instead just have the two of them talk about the state of affairs. Be like “after nearly shooting you earlier today this isn’t how I expected the day to go”

round comet Sep 1, 2020, 8:04 AM

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"and i lost my best friend and now she's trying to rule the galaxy."

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 8:04 AM

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"exes can be crazy, bro"

round comet Sep 1, 2020, 8:05 AM

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"tell me about it."

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 8:05 AM

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do the sangheili have exes?

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i dont think they do

candid laurel Sep 1, 2020, 8:06 AM

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Do Grunts have exes

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they breed like crazy

craggy sierra Sep 1, 2020, 8:06 AM

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That doesn’t mean they don’t have exes

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 8:06 AM

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till now, the only species which have had seemingly faithful relationships are sangheili

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san shyum cheat

craggy sierra Sep 1, 2020, 8:07 AM

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I think the elites are still working on that whole equal rights thing to let their women end a relationship.

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 8:07 AM

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idk bout that bit

round comet Sep 1, 2020, 8:07 AM

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do the sangheili have exes?

i guess? but like the sanghelli are like the ancient faithful loving guys so i guess not

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 8:07 AM

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but phyllis might

craggy sierra Sep 1, 2020, 8:09 AM

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I don’t know, I know elites have some very antiquated gender roles

round comet Sep 1, 2020, 8:11 AM

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welp

craggy sierra Sep 1, 2020, 8:16 AM

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SoS apparently lets women serve now so it’s getting better. But I think they’ve also had stuff like multiple wives.

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 8:28 AM

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they do have that

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 8:28 AM

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So are the silent shadow the spec ops for the banished

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 8:28 AM

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and the kids can only know the mom, not the dad

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the SS was spec ops for the covies

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so yeah, i guess they would stick to what they know

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 8:36 AM

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There are only 6 of them I think

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With the new guy do you think they are training more?

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 8:52 AM

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could be

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you never know

dense pulsar Sep 1, 2020, 8:52 AM

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Are Elites born from eggs?

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 9:02 AM

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Think so

carmine sleet Sep 1, 2020, 9:04 AM

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They do come from eggs

carmine sleet Sep 1, 2020, 9:23 AM

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Ok, so just to be sure, the group known as the "Hand of Atriox" is something we've not heard of until the reveal of Jega ‘Rdomnai last night, right?

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 9:26 AM

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Well, for lore material, we have only received Halo Wars 2 and the two comics. I don't remember any references to this "Hand of Atriox".

carmine sleet Sep 1, 2020, 9:26 AM

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Roger that, just wanted to make sure

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 9:26 AM

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Yea

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There isn't even a Halopedia page for them either, not yet anyway.

carmine sleet Sep 1, 2020, 9:28 AM

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Roger that, means they are a new group within the Banished. My bet is they formed after they lost contact with Atriox and the Ark

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With Escherum as the leader and Jega clearly being one of the first to join

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 9:30 AM

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Hopefully he won't be just portrayed as a stupid underling, unlike with Let 'Volir.

carmine sleet Sep 1, 2020, 9:30 AM

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Well, Let was barely given much screen time in the campaign of HW2

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 9:31 AM

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Which is a shame if you ask me, I think he is somewhat interesting.

carmine sleet Sep 1, 2020, 9:31 AM

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Aye, plus, Let's VA is Darin De Paul too so it's a shame there was so little of him in HW2's story. At least we have Escherum to truly give us Darin in the Halo universe

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 9:32 AM

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He voices Escherum as well?

carmine sleet Sep 1, 2020, 9:32 AM

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He does

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He tweeted about it just after the gameplay demo was released

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 9:32 AM

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He sounds like a very versatile voice actor then.

carmine sleet Sep 1, 2020, 9:32 AM

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Oh, he really is

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 9:34 AM

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That's also quite efficient of 343i.

carmine sleet Sep 1, 2020, 9:34 AM

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Reinhardt from Overwatch, Dr Hayden from Doom, Valkorion from SWTOR, Ardyn Izunia from FF XV, just to name a few

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 9:34 AM

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He voices Samuel Hayden?!

carmine sleet Sep 1, 2020, 9:34 AM

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He does

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 9:34 AM

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That's quite impressive.

carmine sleet Sep 1, 2020, 9:35 AM

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Also, wait until you check the VA of the Gravemind, he's played things ranging from hamsters to soldiers to weird aliens and all sorts in between

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 9:35 AM

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Oh yeah, I am aware of Dee Bradley Baker.

carmine sleet Sep 1, 2020, 9:36 AM

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Ah, good to know

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 9:36 AM

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I respect his work as Gravemind, but I prefer Temuera Morrison as the voice for the Clones.

carmine sleet Sep 1, 2020, 9:37 AM

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That's fair

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 9:37 AM

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Now if he ever featured in a Halo game, I would be very pleased indeed.

main siren Sep 1, 2020, 9:44 AM

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Darin De Paul also voiced Revenant in Apex Legends

carmine sleet Sep 1, 2020, 9:56 AM

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Aye! He did, a friend of mine was really excited when she found that out

round comet Sep 1, 2020, 9:58 AM

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@carmine sleet nope, now we know of 3 members of "the hand of atriox"

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escharum, jega, hyperius

carmine sleet Sep 1, 2020, 9:59 AM

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Wait? Where was it referenced first?

round comet Sep 1, 2020, 9:59 AM

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i mean we dont know if hyperius is one but im assuming he is.

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Wait? Where was it referenced first?

last night.

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wit the reveal of jega.

carmine sleet Sep 1, 2020, 10:01 AM

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So why did you say that Hyperius was a member?

round comet Sep 1, 2020, 10:02 AM

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i assumed so

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we dont know anything abut him yet yeah, but im thinking its likely.

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like, you dont just give random brutes a name and make toys for them

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 10:08 AM

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what about pavium and voraidus?

round comet Sep 1, 2020, 10:10 AM

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uhhh i dont think so

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 10:49 AM

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thought as much

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they released the flood onto the ark

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 12:07 PM

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i hope we dont kill every member of the hands of atriox in infinite

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they sound like a cool group

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and the first two members we know look cool

nimble crest Sep 1, 2020, 12:16 PM

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Where did Spartans keep ammo? Most renditions of the armor didn’t have any magazine pouches or anything for that matter

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 12:19 PM

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Well, I like to think that the canonical variants had large ammunition pouches, like the ones you see in Halo Reach.

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 12:22 PM

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Well we actually know

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In legends it is shown that the punches are in compartments on the side of their thighs that comes out when they need to reload

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 12:25 PM

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Yes, but Kelly also has high heels implemented in her armour, so that's not the most practical example to present.

nimble crest Sep 1, 2020, 12:27 PM

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🤨

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What?

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 12:29 PM

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Well...

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Kelly in the episode had high heels and tight breastplate,cause anime

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But the episode is canon I think

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Just not the visuals exactly

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 12:31 PM

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Dont trust legends that much

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They have so many lore inconsistencies that I cant even count

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The plot is canon but the depiction is.... maybe

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 12:33 PM

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halo as a anime does look good though

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 12:33 PM

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No it does not, look at what they did to poor Dutch.

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 12:34 PM

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i watched origions and prototype

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what does dutch look like

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 12:34 PM

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He looks like a completely different person.

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https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/halo/images/5/5d/Babysitter_Dutch.jpg/revision/latest/top-crop/width/300/height/300?cb=20091108011234

unique rune Sep 1, 2020, 12:35 PM

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I mean.
Anime is a very broad spectrum of art styles and direction.

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It's really kinda reductive to say "oh it'd look bad because I didn't like one example of it".

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 12:36 PM

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In this case, that "style" is an inaccuracy.

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 12:36 PM

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i was confused for a second

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i thought it wwas from the voltron anime

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 12:36 PM

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Tell me, Dr. Lance, does that even remotely look like Dutch?

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 12:37 PM

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no

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 12:38 PM

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That is my problem with Legends, its copious amount of inaccuracies and poor writing.

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Then again, I can come across as being really ignorant about this because I am very critical with anime.

unique rune Sep 1, 2020, 12:42 PM

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It's already been established that the visuals of Legends are subject to a fair degree of artistic license and do not necessarily 100% adhere to their canonical depictions.

Like issues with writing, fine, I can get that, but Legends was meant to be sort of an experiment in exploring other media forms, and it's generally most evident in the visuals.

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Criticize the art choices all you want but I really don't think it's fair to write off anime as a medium for future Halo projects because one set of exploratory shorts did weird things.

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 12:43 PM

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Sure, but they should have at least tried to make pre-established characters look similar to their video game counterparts.

unique rune Sep 1, 2020, 12:51 PM

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Well, sure, I don't disagree with that, but when, y'know-
Microsoft gave the production companies largely free reign in how the shorts looked

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Can't really do much about that.

dense pulsar Sep 1, 2020, 12:54 PM

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I liked the Elite short

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Especially the little sword duel they had at the end

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Definitely way more stylized than the other shorts

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 12:56 PM

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i liked prototype the best

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though i dont know why a elite was drifting

dense pulsar Sep 1, 2020, 12:57 PM

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Wdym?

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 12:58 PM

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a elite was drifting through the ground while shooting

dense pulsar Sep 1, 2020, 12:58 PM

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Ah

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 1:01 PM

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so the main factions are banished,SoS,unsc, and created

inner basin Sep 1, 2020, 1:10 PM

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a elite was drifting through the ground while shooting
He was sliding down a hill

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 1:10 PM

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Outside the games the URF still exists

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Thats a fifth faction

inner basin Sep 1, 2020, 1:10 PM

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Outside the games the URF still exists
CMA is another Innie faction

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 1:11 PM

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Lets just group innies into one

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Too many too little

inner basin Sep 1, 2020, 1:12 PM

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But those 2 are the major ones. I'd argue the CMA is more of a threat than the URF because the CMA have Ilsa Zane

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 1:12 PM

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Wasnt Ilsa killed

inner basin Sep 1, 2020, 1:13 PM

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Nope

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 1:13 PM

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So where is she now

inner basin Sep 1, 2020, 1:13 PM

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Probably plotting. We haven't heard from her in a while

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 1:14 PM

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Ah yes

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the classic innie move

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Plot for a few years or maybe even decades before striking

main siren Sep 1, 2020, 1:15 PM

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Don't you mean NCA (As in New Colonial Alliance)?

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 1:17 PM

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CMA was the colonial military or militia or something

inner basin Sep 1, 2020, 1:19 PM

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Yeah, Hawk's right. Ilsa is part of the NCA

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As for CMA (Colonial Military Administration), that's the old NCA basically

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 1:19 PM

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the CMA is what johnson trains in contact harvest, right?

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 1:20 PM

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Thats the colonial militia

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But under the joint administration of the UNSC and cma

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@inner basin Just checked halopedia, no cma is not nca

inner basin Sep 1, 2020, 1:21 PM

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I didn't say they were

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 1:21 PM

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You say the old nca

inner basin Sep 1, 2020, 1:22 PM

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Yeah as in that's where the name is derived from

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 1:22 PM

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no it doesnt

inner basin Sep 1, 2020, 1:22 PM

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Search up CMA

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 1:24 PM

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https://www.halopedia.org/Colonial_Military_Administration

inner basin Sep 1, 2020, 1:24 PM

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Some of it's members previous members have been described as Watts Loyalists in Dirt I'm pretty sure

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 1:25 PM

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so, CMA is innies?

inner basin Sep 1, 2020, 1:25 PM

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No, not exactly, but some members were highly susprect

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 1:25 PM

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So what do you think of Jega ‘Rdomnai

inner basin Sep 1, 2020, 1:25 PM

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What a deflection lol

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 1:26 PM

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CMA was basically the UEG's military independent of unsc in the outer colonies

inner basin Sep 1, 2020, 1:27 PM

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Hang on, let me find some of the members who were called Watt's Loyalists (who served in the CMA)

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 1:27 PM

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Jega's armor looks sick

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Combined with the red swords

inner basin Sep 1, 2020, 1:29 PM

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Okay, I found names of 3. Sita, Dale and Orrin. If you check out the Raid on Mount Haven wiki page you'll get all the details. Also Rookie makes a cameo too

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So what do you think of Jega ‘Rdomnai
I really like the design. The cybernetic arm and mandibles is so BA and really gives me Banished vibes

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Also, considering that he will be hunting the Chief makes it even more sick

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 1:32 PM

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Just no boss battles in infinite

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And don't kill him like Jul M'dama

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 1:33 PM

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he's the banished version of the SS

inner basin Sep 1, 2020, 1:33 PM

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Yeah, Halo's boss battles have always been weird imo

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 1:33 PM

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Jul deserved better

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 1:34 PM

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jul died in a cutscene

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and that did not do justice to his character buildup in the lore

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at all

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epic fight where locke almost dies is what should've happened

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i mean, the fight between palmer and merg vol was lit

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chief and tartarus was kinda nice

sharp adder Sep 1, 2020, 1:36 PM

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I was sad how they killed Jul he could have played a great part in it he would have definitely followed cortana

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 1:36 PM

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but they made the warden a recurring boss

sharp adder Sep 1, 2020, 1:37 PM

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Yeah but he like trippled ever time

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I was kida hoping for like more than just the warden i was thinking i love this new boss i can't wait to see what new bosses and stuff they added then it was just increseing the amount of wardens

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 1:39 PM

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Jul would not have followed cortana

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He hated Smart AI

gusty whale Sep 1, 2020, 1:39 PM

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Warden is a fine boss fight and hitting that weak spot is real satisfying but the amount of times you have to fight him is ridiculous

sharp adder Sep 1, 2020, 1:40 PM

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Yeah i was hoping that maybe have to fight different varents of him or even a version where he is so big you need to be in a banshee to fight him

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Jul would not have followed cortana
@lethal comet yeab but his followers might have

humble yacht Sep 1, 2020, 1:41 PM

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This "Hand of Atriox" thing makes me think there will be 5 total members (one for each finger), and maybe each member will be a boss fight

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I guess Escharum would be the thumb

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 1:41 PM

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they legit turned H5 into Resident Evil: Robotica

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 1:41 PM

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Craig is two of them

sharp adder Sep 1, 2020, 1:41 PM

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Yeah i hope Tartus comes back somehow

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 1:41 PM

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nope

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he ded for good

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 1:42 PM

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well chimera

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 1:42 PM

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yeah bring back a monke that has been dead for a decade

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 1:42 PM

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brutes dont have 5 fingers

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im pretty sure

sharp adder Sep 1, 2020, 1:42 PM

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I was hoping maybe he was a clone of the real Tardues who is actually still on Doisac

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 1:42 PM

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three fingers and a thumb?

sharp adder Sep 1, 2020, 1:42 PM

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Yes

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 1:42 PM

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though some people dont like how blocky the banished are right now

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that they are too blocky

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 1:44 PM

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Yea its three fingers and a thumb

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Just checked

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 1:44 PM

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hey isnt jenga wearing a prophet hat?

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 1:44 PM

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jenga?

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 1:44 PM

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i think we see those in a H2A terminal

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 1:44 PM

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Jega

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Nice

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Jenga

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 1:45 PM

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who is/was jega?

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 1:45 PM

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the new elite

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 1:45 PM

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ohh.

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 1:46 PM

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this boi
https://t.co/9fQLLZO8qm

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 1:46 PM

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nah, that looks like a customised SS helmet

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yep. customised SS helm

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 1:47 PM

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whats SS

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 1:48 PM

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Jega's armour reminds me of the armour you could earn in Rise of Iron for Destiny 1.

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 1:48 PM

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Sangheili storm

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 1:48 PM

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oh

humble yacht Sep 1, 2020, 1:49 PM

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tbh four bosses probably would be better for pacing's sake

sharp adder Sep 1, 2020, 1:50 PM

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Ooh maybe grunt goblins as bosses

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 1:50 PM

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Why have bosses

sharp adder Sep 1, 2020, 1:50 PM

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Or maybe like in h5 when you're getting to the place and it has waves of enemies then there are the 2 hunters something like that

humble yacht Sep 1, 2020, 1:51 PM

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why have bosses? because introducing threatening enemies and not actually fighting them is lame

lunar condor Sep 1, 2020, 1:51 PM

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Its hard to do FPS bosses right but i hope they do them decent at least

sharp adder Sep 1, 2020, 1:51 PM

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The warden was fun ivmaged to kill hin by only punching

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It was hard

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 1:52 PM

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so chimera should cortana be a boss battle?

gusty whale Sep 1, 2020, 1:52 PM

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I’ve assassinated him before

sharp adder Sep 1, 2020, 1:52 PM

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I tea bsggged him

lunar condor Sep 1, 2020, 1:52 PM

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It would be pretty hard to fight data with a gun

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 1:52 PM

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actually

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you know what

humble yacht Sep 1, 2020, 1:52 PM

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Cortana is a different kind of threatening

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 1:52 PM

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osman is threataning

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make her a boss battle

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 1:53 PM

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why have bosses? because introducing threatening enemies and not actually fighting them is lame
Do you believe that not being able to fight the Prophet of Truth was a bad decision? I am not being disrespectful or anything, just curious.

sharp adder Sep 1, 2020, 1:53 PM

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Techly she could summon any and all weapons and vechiles from the domain

humble yacht Sep 1, 2020, 1:53 PM

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that's not how the domain works

lunar condor Sep 1, 2020, 1:53 PM

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I mean you could make osman a boss battle if she was an enemy? i guess

humble yacht Sep 1, 2020, 1:53 PM

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Truth himself wasn't threatening

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his organization was

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truth himself was rather blusterous and weak

sharp adder Sep 1, 2020, 1:53 PM

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Or a Roland vs cortana and you have to help Roland

lunar condor Sep 1, 2020, 1:54 PM

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Truth was dangerous because of his skilled manipulation of the covenant but i dont see him winning a 1v1 fight against my grandma

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 1:54 PM

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or worse case scenerio

gusty whale Sep 1, 2020, 1:54 PM

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What exactly did osman do? I know she was a protagonist in kilo 5 trilogy and kind of a jerk in spartan ops but what did she do that was super bad?

humble yacht Sep 1, 2020, 1:54 PM

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nothing

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 1:54 PM

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"help cortana fight the logic plauge"

gusty whale Sep 1, 2020, 1:54 PM

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Oh

lunar condor Sep 1, 2020, 1:54 PM

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Shes the boss at ONI and some people say ONI = Bad

gusty whale Sep 1, 2020, 1:54 PM

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Rip

humble yacht Sep 1, 2020, 1:54 PM

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She ordered Palmer to assassinate Halsey, which some people don't like because they like halsey

gusty whale Sep 1, 2020, 1:54 PM

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Ah

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That’s probably the thing

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 1:55 PM

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halsey is a horrible person

inner basin Sep 1, 2020, 1:55 PM

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I think an assassination is uncalled for though

lunar condor Sep 1, 2020, 1:55 PM

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Tbh im surprised Halsey has lived this long

sharp adder Sep 1, 2020, 1:55 PM

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Oni was stupid ffoced on cooyi g forunerr tech instead of the acirt humainlty texh tey had

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 1:55 PM

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what?

sharp adder Sep 1, 2020, 1:55 PM

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They found a acient humainlty ship filled with tech

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 1:55 PM

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Fair enough, Chimera, I think he is threatening in a sense of how he spread misinformation.

lunar condor Sep 1, 2020, 1:55 PM

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Im surprised they didnt just assassinate halsey right after the war ended to tie the loose ends considering the Spartan II origin and such

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 1:56 PM

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oni was stupid,copying forerunner tech instead of ancint humanity tech they hae

humble yacht Sep 1, 2020, 1:56 PM

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obviously when I said "threatening" i meant physically

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like in a "he can kill you with his bare hands" kind of way

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the kind that makes for good video game encounters

sharp adder Sep 1, 2020, 1:56 PM

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Just use a niva bomb

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 1:56 PM

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dont

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 1:56 PM

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Yes, but I guess Bungie were not pleased with Regret's boss fight.

humble yacht Sep 1, 2020, 1:56 PM

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politically threatening characters wouldn't make for interesting gameplay

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unless you're in a Phoenix Wright game

lunar condor Sep 1, 2020, 1:57 PM

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unless their chair shoots giant beams

humble yacht Sep 1, 2020, 1:57 PM

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Regret's boss fight was pretty lame

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 1:57 PM

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a nova bomb would kill everyone on and around the planet

lunar condor Sep 1, 2020, 1:57 PM

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It was lame but really funny imo

humble yacht Sep 1, 2020, 1:57 PM

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tartarus's was lame too

lunar condor Sep 1, 2020, 1:57 PM

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just climbing on him and punching the daylight outta him was like the most memeworthy fight ever

humble yacht Sep 1, 2020, 1:58 PM

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here's hoping that any bosses in Infinite take more notes from Warden than Tartarus

inner basin Sep 1, 2020, 1:58 PM

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I like how when you weakened the Warden enough you could assassinate him. That was cool

humble yacht Sep 1, 2020, 1:58 PM

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and with there being multiple members of the Hand of Atriox to act as potential bosses, we won't have to deal with the problem of repetition that the Warden had

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each member of the Hand could be a unique encounter with unique boss fight elements

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 1:59 PM

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i hope that after the created are defeated it doesnt just go "Oh look at all that forerunner tech, better jump technologically by millions of years"

sharp adder Sep 1, 2020, 1:59 PM

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It took me 30 minutes to realise you had to punch regret

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 1:59 PM

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i just jumped on him

inner basin Sep 1, 2020, 1:59 PM

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It took me 30 minutes to realise you had to punch regret
Same lol

humble yacht Sep 1, 2020, 1:59 PM

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doesn't the game give you a prompt to melee him?

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 1:59 PM

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i ran past the honor guard without even realising it

lunar condor Sep 1, 2020, 2:00 PM

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idk i feel like the "We lost" part of the Halo Infinite narrative is because they feel like humans not being at the top is the more interesting take

sharp adder Sep 1, 2020, 2:00 PM

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I tried everything i enen used the rocke launchee

lunar condor Sep 1, 2020, 2:00 PM

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It would be pretty weird if they then decided to jump millions of years technologically to make humans superior again

sharp adder Sep 1, 2020, 2:00 PM

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It was only when i fell into him i rrqles you had to punch him

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 2:01 PM

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because before post war humanity was starting to speedrun with forerunner tech

sharp adder Sep 1, 2020, 2:01 PM

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And boy I loved it

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Yeah then they discovered acient hummity and felt that it was familiar

lunar condor Sep 1, 2020, 2:01 PM

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Im more curious who the villain is gonna be once the created and the banished are out of the picture

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 2:02 PM

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the banished im hoping wont be out of the picture

humble yacht Sep 1, 2020, 2:02 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

lunar condor Sep 1, 2020, 2:02 PM

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I assume its gonna be the flood again at that point but like the kind of "Humanity succeeds where the forerunners failed"

humble yacht Sep 1, 2020, 2:02 PM

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we'll find out when Infinite comes out

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 2:02 PM

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yeah. we cant keep having new factions

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 2:02 PM

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they are too developed and a fan fovorite to kill off right now

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 2:02 PM

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right now, we have banished, created and the flood

sharp adder Sep 1, 2020, 2:02 PM

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Pi love though how no one in the unsc ueg and ONI not even Halsey can figure out how the neelder works

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 2:02 PM

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three is enough

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 2:03 PM

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i would have prefered the promtheans over created

lunar condor Sep 1, 2020, 2:03 PM

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Its weirder to me that Halsey is somehow specialized in every single kind of scientific discipline and can figure out pretty much anything if you give her a few months

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 2:03 PM

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lead by the didact

sharp adder Sep 1, 2020, 2:03 PM

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Yeah but the unsc will Halsey can't figure out how the neelder works and how effective it is

lunar condor Sep 1, 2020, 2:04 PM

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I dislike the prometheans and the created for the fact that they feel like filler. Like 1 bad guy and his goons. They dont feel as expansive and varied as the covenant felt.

sharp adder Sep 1, 2020, 2:04 PM

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It's a lock on weapon given to cannon fodder makes it really effective

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Yeah i was hoping for jul to be more involved was really angry how he was killed in a cutscene

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 2:05 PM

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i dont like the created because they feel like just another "AI turning on creators" faction

sharp adder Sep 1, 2020, 2:06 PM

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I wanted a fight like h2 with arby vs hertix leader

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But except orisvvs jul and his special forces honour guard

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While protecting Halsey

lunar condor Sep 1, 2020, 2:07 PM

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I kinda liked the fact that AIs in halo werent ever the kinda stuff where you had to be worried about when they are gonna take over and skynet begins i find that kinda plot pretty lame nowadays

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so i have a special kind of dislike for the created

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 2:07 PM

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yea thats how i feel

lunar condor Sep 1, 2020, 2:07 PM

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for kinda ruining that image and for pulling cortana out from where the sunshine dont reach and making her an enemy

sharp adder Sep 1, 2020, 2:08 PM

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Yeah what can they really do all from chat in the domain uless they are given control over groups of enemies and you have to eliminate them

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 2:08 PM

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plus now whenever a AI does something strange there are going to be dozens of "AI BETRAYAL" theories

humble yacht Sep 1, 2020, 2:08 PM

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I think aliens are a more used trope in sci fi than AI

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How many movies about bad aliens do we have vs bad AI/robots?

lunar condor Sep 1, 2020, 2:09 PM

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I feel like you can do more with aliens than you can do with "AI bad"

sharp adder Sep 1, 2020, 2:09 PM

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Yeah and why tey brang her back it was worse than Johnson dieing

lunar condor Sep 1, 2020, 2:09 PM

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you can make them much more varied and interesting than "AI controls entire network AI controls everything"

sharp adder Sep 1, 2020, 2:09 PM

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Yeah i know

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 2:09 PM

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All I can think about with AI is The terminator series and the matrix triology

sharp adder Sep 1, 2020, 2:09 PM

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True

lunar condor Sep 1, 2020, 2:10 PM

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AI bad was never a trope i liked not even when the very first movie about it came out

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 2:10 PM

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Yeah aliens are overused tbh

lunar condor Sep 1, 2020, 2:11 PM

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Aliens are the generic bad guy of Sci-Fi movies for sure

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 2:11 PM

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https://www.fullcirclehalo.net/articles/repeat-rampancy-why-the-trope-of-violent-ai-rebellion-is-damaging-halo

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 2:11 PM

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It can be done well, you just need to dive into the actual nuance of a machine finding its 'humanity' rather than just having AI wanting to kill / subjugate all of humanity.

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 2:11 PM

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hey isnt there a thing about how ai would not even want to turn on its creators

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https://www.fullcirclehalo.net/articles/the-merging-of-minds-how-halos-artificial-intelligence-assembly-breaths-new-life-into-science-fiction

humble yacht Sep 1, 2020, 2:15 PM

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Tbh the Assembly was just a rip off of the Patriots

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 2:15 PM

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Asimov's law of robotics

feral perch Sep 1, 2020, 2:15 PM

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Too bad Grim doesn’t like the Assembly.

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 2:16 PM

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`Asimov’s Three Laws are as follows:

A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
A robot must obey the orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the
First Law.
A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Laws.
`

feral perch Sep 1, 2020, 2:16 PM

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Also too bad we can’t ditch the rest of Reach’s game story along with them.

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 2:16 PM

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welp

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the created broke all 3

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 2:17 PM

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Asimov's laws extended to AI to as well

humble yacht Sep 1, 2020, 2:18 PM

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I mean, asimov’s laws are a fictional set of rules for robotics

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It’s not an actual philosophy

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 2:18 PM

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I know

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 2:18 PM

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Having programming integrated to halt harm towards humans would sort of hamper any militaristic application pre-Covenant War.
So I imagine the potential of Asimov's laws of robotics would've been scrapped from that perspective.

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 2:20 PM

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there is much more you can do with alien bad than AI bad

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 2:21 PM

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But asimov's laws have impacted ethics of AI

humble yacht Sep 1, 2020, 2:21 PM

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Maybe you just lack the creative capacity to be unique with AI

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 2:23 PM

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A robot will not harm authorized Government personnel but will terminate intruders with extreme prejudice.
A robot will obey the orders of authorized personnel except where such orders conflict with the Third Law.
A robot will guard its own existence with lethal antipersonnel weaponry, because a robot is bloody expensive.

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Maybe this is better

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For unsc

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 2:25 PM

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AI generally override the laws

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 2:25 PM

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That's what you get when you make them 'smart'

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But they could program the three laws into Dumb AI

sharp adder Sep 1, 2020, 2:27 PM

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Yeah except for Roland

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 2:28 PM

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Guess AI have ethics too

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Or they wait for a rational reason to eliminate someone

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 2:29 PM

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till they kill ambassadors

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 2:29 PM

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IF they identify them as potential threats then they will do it

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 2:29 PM

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and throw ships out of orbit onto cities

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 2:29 PM

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The Created only kill when they need to

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They could have killed Blue team but instead just put them in a cryptum

sharp adder Sep 1, 2020, 2:30 PM

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Oh no we might actually see what a super mac does when it fires onto a planet

feral perch Sep 1, 2020, 2:30 PM

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That’s not true, Usze

sharp adder Sep 1, 2020, 2:30 PM

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Sience ai can control then

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 2:30 PM

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not sure that killing ambassadors is a needed killing

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 2:30 PM

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Cortana had the chance

feral perch Sep 1, 2020, 2:30 PM

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Everybody who died on Meridian was a needless death.

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 2:31 PM

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Political threats exist lance

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 2:31 PM

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so instead of locking them up she kills them?

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 2:31 PM

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They could blame that on the WARDEN STONE

feral perch Sep 1, 2020, 2:31 PM

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The Warden is part of the Created

sharp adder Sep 1, 2020, 2:31 PM

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Correction cortana eared the ai governer he just decided not to evac anyone

feral perch Sep 1, 2020, 2:32 PM

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He’s like, an integral piece

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 2:32 PM

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cortana controls wardan eternal

sharp adder Sep 1, 2020, 2:32 PM

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The warden is guardian of the Domain

feral perch Sep 1, 2020, 2:32 PM

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the governor is part of the Created

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 2:32 PM

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she could een send him away

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 2:33 PM

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Maybe she needed the Guardian so bad that she killed every possible threat on Meridian

sharp adder Sep 1, 2020, 2:33 PM

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Yes cortana told the governer she was awakening the guardian he chiose not to rvac his people

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 2:33 PM

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threat?

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u call civilians threats?

feral perch Sep 1, 2020, 2:33 PM

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None of those people were a threat

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 2:33 PM

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thats like saying a dog is a threat to a destroyer

feral perch Sep 1, 2020, 2:34 PM

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The blame for the slaughter at Meridian rests entirely on the Created.

sharp adder Sep 1, 2020, 2:34 PM

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Remember he told them he new what cortana was going to do he knew his people would die he chiose to let them die

feral perch Sep 1, 2020, 2:34 PM

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They’re just bad.

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 2:34 PM

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i think thats even worse

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he could have evacuated them

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but let them die

sharp adder Sep 1, 2020, 2:35 PM

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Cortana also told the ai there that the guardians were awakening it was those ai choice not to save then that wasn't cortana that was there free will

feral perch Sep 1, 2020, 2:36 PM

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Uh, no. Cortana directed her Prometheans to kill the civilian population

sharp adder Sep 1, 2020, 2:36 PM

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No the Prometheans are sentries to the guardian while it wakes up

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They are protecting the guardian

feral perch Sep 1, 2020, 2:37 PM

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No, they were actively attacking the people of Meridian.

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 2:37 PM

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The civilians could have alerted the UNSC

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Maybe thats why she killed them

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 2:37 PM

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are you kiding me

feral perch Sep 1, 2020, 2:37 PM

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Unlikely, and Cortana knows that, but they were no threat to the Guardian.

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 2:37 PM

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millions of people dead because they could have called someone to protect them?

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heckt the unsc can barely do anything to forerunner warshps

sharp adder Sep 1, 2020, 2:38 PM

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Well technically meridian is out of the UNSC area

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 2:38 PM

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it took the infinity to make a tiny hole in the mantles approach

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 2:38 PM

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Osiris just arrived and ruined her plan

feral perch Sep 1, 2020, 2:38 PM

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And besides all that, the Prometheans were killing civilians as they tried to escape the planet. They were shooting down evac shuttles iirc.

humble yacht Sep 1, 2020, 2:38 PM

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There’s nothing that says that cortana directly ordered the prometheans to attack, but she certainly was aware and didn’t stop it

sharp adder Sep 1, 2020, 2:38 PM

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True but they could kill guardians there weaker than the Mantle

feral perch Sep 1, 2020, 2:39 PM

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um, what? no

humble yacht Sep 1, 2020, 2:39 PM

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The mantle isn’t a physical thing

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 2:39 PM

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mantles approach you mean

sharp adder Sep 1, 2020, 2:39 PM

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Yeah that

humble yacht Sep 1, 2020, 2:39 PM

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The UNSC couldn’t damage the Mantles Approach so that’s not a good measure

feral perch Sep 1, 2020, 2:39 PM

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The Guardians probably aren’t weaker than Mantle’s Approach

humble yacht Sep 1, 2020, 2:40 PM

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They’re biggest weapon only made a small hole

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 2:40 PM

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yea

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and the created doing EMP blasts

sharp adder Sep 1, 2020, 2:40 PM

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Yes but the guardian does not have any sheilds

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 2:40 PM

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Does Earth still have the defense grid

sharp adder Sep 1, 2020, 2:40 PM

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Yes

feral perch Sep 1, 2020, 2:40 PM

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But it’s not like the Miners had the tools to damage a Guardian anyway

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 2:40 PM

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The 300 super MACs

sharp adder Sep 1, 2020, 2:40 PM

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It always did

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 2:40 PM

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No

humble yacht Sep 1, 2020, 2:40 PM

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Yes but the guardian does not have any sheilds
Guardians have a personal defense system

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 2:41 PM

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It completed the grid just before Battle of Earth

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 2:41 PM

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not to mention their sonic booms

sharp adder Sep 1, 2020, 2:41 PM

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Yeah and the super macs did make holes but infinities macs are stronger than supers

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 2:41 PM

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heck the created doing the emp blasts also did damage

humble yacht Sep 1, 2020, 2:41 PM

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The infinity is what made the hole in mantle’s approach

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Not the Mac stations

feral perch Sep 1, 2020, 2:41 PM

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Anyway, Cortana allowed the slaughter of the civilians on Meridian for no good reason. The Prometheans were even killing evacuating civilians.

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 2:41 PM

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sidny may be a crator for all we know

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 2:42 PM

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it kinda is

sharp adder Sep 1, 2020, 2:42 PM

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Yeah and remember guardians aren't built for combat only for policing systems

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 2:42 PM

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its still forerunner

sharp adder Sep 1, 2020, 2:42 PM

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That is what the monitor said

humble yacht Sep 1, 2020, 2:42 PM

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Guardians can hold their own in a fight

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If need be

sharp adder Sep 1, 2020, 2:43 PM

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Not against forunerr ships but against ybsc probably

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 2:43 PM

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You can't just kill a guardian

sharp adder Sep 1, 2020, 2:43 PM

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How do you know

humble yacht Sep 1, 2020, 2:43 PM

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Forerunners would have no reason to attack their own stuff

feral perch Sep 1, 2020, 2:43 PM

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The novels and Warfleet. @sharp adder

humble yacht Sep 1, 2020, 2:43 PM

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Also the guardian EMP works on forerunner stuff too

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 2:44 PM

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We have come to know from experience that unsc weapons arent really effective against forerunner vessels

sharp adder Sep 1, 2020, 2:44 PM

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Yeah i thought the guardians are made by prescurs

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 2:44 PM

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1 disruption generator[3]
2 attenuation pulse emitters[3]
6 converging beam cannons[3]

humble yacht Sep 1, 2020, 2:44 PM

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Yeah i thought the guardians are made by prescurs
Nope

sharp adder Sep 1, 2020, 2:44 PM

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Hmm

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 2:44 PM

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if tthe preccursors were bacck

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everyone would be dead

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 2:45 PM

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Everything the precursors left in the milky way and path Kethona is destroyed

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 2:45 PM

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courtesy forerunners

humble yacht Sep 1, 2020, 2:45 PM

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The purpose of the guardians goes against the precursors’ philosophy

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They were a very hands off race after the created the life in a galaxy

feral perch Sep 1, 2020, 2:45 PM

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Does it really though?

humble yacht Sep 1, 2020, 2:45 PM

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Yes

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 2:46 PM

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the guardians are super giant police bots

humble yacht Sep 1, 2020, 2:46 PM

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The precursors didn’t actively police the races they made

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They let them live or die by their own merit

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 2:46 PM

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The forerunners ruled the galaxy by oppressing others

feral perch Sep 1, 2020, 2:46 PM

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But they did ultimately decide to absorb all life in the galaxy

humble yacht Sep 1, 2020, 2:46 PM

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They only got involved with the forerunner directly because the forerunners preemptively struck

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 2:46 PM

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The Precursors let life go on as normal

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 2:47 PM

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not all precursors did

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 2:47 PM

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but the forerunners were helicopter parents

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 2:47 PM

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some just left

humble yacht Sep 1, 2020, 2:47 PM

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We don’t even know if the precursors actually planned to kill the forerunners. That was just what the forerunners feared

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 2:47 PM

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We havent seen the full wrath of the precursors

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 2:47 PM

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what would they do, though?

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 2:47 PM

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civlians are not a threat

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 2:48 PM

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Their space bridges ripped planets apart @versed helm

humble yacht Sep 1, 2020, 2:48 PM

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Star roads

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 2:48 PM

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Imagine what actual weapons would do

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 2:48 PM

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i mean, given that the flood is precursor, and that they wiped out a whole race

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they fought on two fronts: physical war, and mental manipulation

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heck, the flood still does both

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 2:49 PM

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Flood didnt make tech

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Precursors did

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 2:50 PM

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withall the avantages the flood had

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im suprised they didnt win

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 2:50 PM

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For all we know they could have blown apart an entire sector of the galaxy if they wanted

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 2:50 PM

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hey where did the star roads go after the flood used them

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 2:51 PM

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idk. i dont think they have been found yet

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and kinda hard to believe that they dispersed into nothingness

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 2:51 PM

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The star roads were destroyed when Halos fired

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Actual Neural physics

humble yacht Sep 1, 2020, 2:51 PM

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Yep

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 2:52 PM

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Still imagine a transportation mode having the power to destroy planets

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 2:53 PM

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cortana 2: electric boogaloo makes cortana good again, and dies while making a star road for the unsc on the ring to escape on while it explodes

humble yacht Sep 1, 2020, 2:53 PM

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You know, while they were called star roads, I don’t think they were necessarily meant for travel

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 2:53 PM

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why not

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precursor taking a walk across half the galaxy

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 2:54 PM

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Dont mind me
Just jogging to the other side of the galaxy

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 2:54 PM

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just walking my infection form,don't mind me

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geez imagine a galaxy sized gravemind

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 2:55 PM

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Not likely

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There isnt enough biomass

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 2:56 PM

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wonder what high charity looks like on the inside

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infected

humble yacht Sep 1, 2020, 2:56 PM

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We’ve already seen it

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 2:56 PM

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we see parts of it in H3, i think

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 2:57 PM

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cororidors

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and rooms

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 2:57 PM

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take a look at the usg ishimura

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from dead space

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 2:57 PM

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Just gross brown meat everywhere

feral perch Sep 1, 2020, 2:58 PM

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It’s called the Corruption in Dead Space

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 2:58 PM

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yep

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 2:59 PM

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also what is up with the NMPD

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they are bassically a army

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 2:59 PM

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Police need stuff

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Hornets and pelicans are necessary in a city filled with skyscrapers

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 3:01 PM

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seeing a riot cyclops storming down a street in odst would have been cool though. also how did the unsc not notice the forerunner relics under the city

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 3:02 PM

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ONI did

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Alpha site is built on top of the portal

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or at least the edge of the portal

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 3:04 PM

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ONI knows

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but ONI no tell

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 3:04 PM

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If you know, ONI kill

humble yacht Sep 1, 2020, 3:06 PM

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Tmw you realize ONI exists today

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 3:06 PM

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CIA?

humble yacht Sep 1, 2020, 3:06 PM

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No

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Literally ONI

feral perch Sep 1, 2020, 3:06 PM

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There’s a literal Office of Naval Intelligence irl

humble yacht Sep 1, 2020, 3:07 PM

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It’s the oldest intelligence agency

sharp adder Sep 1, 2020, 3:07 PM

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Riot police and cylops used in construction were actually really effective against coveenat ground forces

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 3:07 PM

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welp

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 3:07 PM

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suspicion intensifies

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 3:07 PM

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its been nice knowing you chimera

sharp adder Sep 1, 2020, 3:07 PM

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Cylops could toss wraiths

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 3:07 PM

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say h to halsey

carmine sleet Sep 1, 2020, 3:08 PM

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Wait until you realise there's a real UNSC, Lance. Granted, it isn't anything to do with space

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 3:08 PM

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not really. a colossus might. but not a cyclops

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 3:08 PM

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or is that a couple of centuries too early

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 3:08 PM

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the security council

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 3:08 PM

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United Nations Security Council

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 3:08 PM

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lame

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space command when

lethal comet Sep 1, 2020, 3:09 PM

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The headline was cool in our newspapers

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India enters the UNSC

sharp adder Sep 1, 2020, 3:10 PM

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Cylo0s were good at ambushes amagine a manyis cylops hybrid streatgg of a cylops combination with a, mantis 4 arms 2 weaons others could holdca sheild or be customisable

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 3:11 PM

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yeah. that did sound dope.

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but sadly its something we were denied for a bit too long

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and now we finally got it

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a multi armed cyclops wont be that OP, though

sharp adder Sep 1, 2020, 3:14 PM

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Think about it could hold a plams prrof sheild in front of it plus the enegry shild and tho extra protection plus thosecarms could be used to throw heavy stuff at coverbant

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 3:14 PM

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reduced arm mobility

sharp adder Sep 1, 2020, 3:14 PM

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Cylops would have been effective in the cites where they would have advantages

versed helm Sep 1, 2020, 3:14 PM

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and reduced power per limb

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tru dat

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 3:14 PM

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even though what i heard about the show has really,really put down my excitement for it i hope it shows good combat with halo wars vehicles and troops

sharp adder Sep 1, 2020, 3:15 PM

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I want to be able to go in a cylops

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 3:15 PM

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which one

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i want vulture and grizzly taking down scarabs

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are brute colonies 6or the homeworld touched much apon?

cedar surge Sep 1, 2020, 3:46 PM

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wow the PoA has a sister ship

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Dawn under heaven