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But someone put a barrier on him so the demons couldn't kill him without getting it down and dust doom2016
black team were rivals to red and blue team
Have you read the testaments?
I think we are deviating from halo
Iβm not lol
Okay
So anyone want to talk bout doom or back to halo?
Im here might as well dm me
How long does it take to put on mjolnir i wonder
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@west silo
gen 2 is definitely faster than gen 1 thats for sure
seconds for the S-IVs using the quick assembly machines on the Infinity
it takes a couple hours with GEN1 in FoR
How long does it take to put on mjolnir i wonder
@lethal comet
Half and hour
So are they catheterized in their tech suits
Cause you sure as hell can't catheterize someone in a matter of minutes
yes
But where does the waste go?
You really want to know?
The urine is most probably recycled for drinking
at the end of CE it shows johnson near the crash site of the autumn wrestling an elite, up to when the ship explodes, how is he still able to get off the ring?
@wispy wasp that ending is not canon
That's just a non canon joke ending
oh, ok
He was on a pelican
Guilty spark flying away is though
Read Halo First Strike
explains everything that happened after ce and fall of reach
Chief went back to reach to turn the stove off
He had an uber from the covenant
Linda was taking a nap
This time the covenant took the bomb on their own
And it won't explode till the next book
Find out next on halo ring Z
So if I wanted to get into more halo lore what will be a good place to go to?
If you don't want to invest much in the books then
Halo mythos summarises the whole halo universe
From precursors to post war
really,that word i not allowed
Thats not even a swear word
A comic called escalations and he's more a bunch of data than dead now
Primordium?
Primordium is good but there's a lot of filler
Basically imagine able book for dora the explorer the book
my summury for the first book is rood trip with the didact
I prefer forerunner doctor who
Siletium
The one where Chief goes to McDonald's and eats a Big Mac
For pure awesome and the ending will leave u sad
i dont wanna spoil stuff for anyone who dont know
He is the flood as long as a gravemind live he also lives
i dont wanna spoil stuff for anyone who dont know
@versed helm
Ur gonna feel sorry for chakas by the end of it
shush bro
Give the Gravemind a top hat and a handlebar mustache in Infinite
No
He comes back later to troll born
If he doesn't burst out in a Disney song then 0/10
captain keys was so cool in fall of reach
And cole protocol
Wonder if any covenant remnants made it their duty to become Spartan hunters
havnt read cole protocol
Don't they sell hats in the Domain? I thought it was a hat shop
Hes also either dead or a deserter
The Didact only wanted to conduct music for his robot fans.
I guess hes into metal
π
Why u booing me am right
i know
Its funny that when cortana asked the gravemind why it spoke in poems it basically said because it can
poems are where its at
The fload actually infected William Shakespeare and Edger Alan Poe
r the flood and fload arch enemies
yes no
Its actually kinda cool that star roads are nothing more than giant shadows
why wasnt cortana on data hive in odst
She wasn't on earth
π
Oof
did all the other odst die on the first cutscene?
was it just bucks team droppin or was there more people
ud figure theyd have more than 4 to5 people take down a covenant ship
Poor Rookie
yeah
A majority of them got caught in the the rift and got blown up or are in slipstream the only reason u guys survived was because dare brought them off course
k thanks
Wonder what Spartan 1337 is doing right now
Isn't Halo Legends canon?
master cheif and 1337 doing hand to hand combat against atriox and the other guy
most stuff is cannon not all
Isn't Halo Legends canon?```
The general plot for all *but* Odd One Out
Hence its name
Odd One Out is the only one explicitly non canon and is done so with the mindset that itβs a Dragon Ball Z ripoff, designed by the anime studio that makes DBZ
So there's a chance he's canon 
No, your mind tricks shall not work here!! π I refuse!
Jokes aside, Odd One Out is definitely not canon
Who's more powerful, Chief or Spartan 1337?
1337
no
Obviously
Oh come on, no fun man
no
Aww
im not okay with this power scalling
No more nuke punch
I would loved if you're just exploring the ring in Infinite, then you enter a Scarab fight but see 1337 on the bird that carried him off crash into the scarab
ye
From a fanfiction perspective, me and my buds over at Halopedia and Halo Fanon have been joking around with the idea that Odd one Out can be canon in-universe if itβs a kids tv show set within the halo universe
Kids in 2557 collecting Spartan-1337 action figures and pluton plushies
i want more odst
1337 is like that long lost brother that Chief never had
yeah
I like it
Remember when chief had a girlfriend not cortana
I miss Hunt The Truth
who linda?
Dont we all
Game where you play as Ben trying to escape Midnight Facility
who linda?
@versed helm
Nope a childhood friend before he got kidnapped
oh rip
Game where you play as Ben trying to escape Midnight Facility
@sinful pollen
The guys pretty much broken to the core
That's the thing though, he uses his feces as a weapon.
oh rip
@versed helm
He meets he years later but she thinks he died because u know the flashclones
heretic elites did nothing wrong
Probably upgrade like in halo 4 or something
heretic elites did nothing wrong
@broken nebula
He shot first
wouldnt you
What if Halo 5 was all just a nightmare Chief had while he was floating in space?
i wish
Not while trying to convince someone
343 guilty sparks in Infinite?
prob
flood in halo infinite?
there are other 6 oracle aroud
yeah but 343 the coolest
T Rated flood
That would only upset people off even more the reason we got here in the first place is because 343 couldn't stick to one plot line
on halo wars 1 there was flood and the infection was not erased
Just put the M rating back if we really are "going back to Halo's roots"
in halo 2 flood on the station are not erased so there are stilll flood around
rip shotgun and magnum
Didact people didn't like him they got rid of him
Jul people didn't like him they kill him
imagine jul vs arbiter
@versed helm
Imagine Locke vs Jul same outcome
I have hope they'll add them back with the delay, a lot of people didn't like the fact that they weren't in the game.
Dead jul
but most important... how master chief was fliyng in the space?
arby gets on back and stabs him with knife
thruster maybe
he was not fliyng but just been on space
floating
yes
"For a brick, he flew pretty good!"
He triped and fell out of the infinity
SGT Johnson survived with Guilty Sparks but his body is in too bad of a shape so they make him into an AI for Chief.
he was too good at wargames so the other spartans kicked him out
I just want Samuel Jackson as my personal AI
I know how his sentences will end lol
M word M word everywhere
@versed helm what
english do you speak it?
π€£
hei stark sorry wrong place
Well that was strange
Requrium
the movie
Corbol academy
timeline
How old was Lasky?
17
he visted cheif as a kid
Lasky is 52 while chief is 49
He's older than chief thats why they were so surprised in the end when they found out they were rescued by kids
@versed helm lol thats creative
πͺ π₯± π
@versed helm
Okay good night
@versed helm lol thats creative
@orchid prism
Heyy
night broskis
Am not a ski
Hey what's the oldest human
Like Johnson was at 70 years old and he was still able to fight covenant
Remember that was only chronologically
Excluding time in cryo, he was most likely in his 40s
Hood must have not seen a lot of action then
He looks really old
I guess the fate of the human race will do that to you
Halsey has to be up there in terms of age
Commander hood was born in 2490, so at the time of Infinite which is 2560, he's 70
Halsey was born in 2492 making her 2 years younger at 68
68..... hmmmm
1337's voice sounds like the guy that does MC's voice in Halo flash videos on Newgrounds
Margaret Parangosky is actually the oldest
she was 96 at the time of Halo 4
If we want to get technical, 343 Guilty Sparks was originally a Human named Chakas and at the time of Halo 4 he's 103,774 years old.
NO
Kinda of crazy that hood is younger than Johnson,though he looks older. Cryo sleep does that for you
Take cutter for example guy found the fountain of youth
Anders π
I wonder if the crew is going through a culture shock when they met Isabel
I mean they missed out on 30 years of history
Kinda difficult when ur trying not to die
I always wanted to know how surprised the SOF crew was when they saw the Flood again.
Of the amount of people that died or seeing elites and humans working together
30 years and they magically drift from Harvest to the Lesser Ark .
Hey master chief was able to do it from the ark to rewuim in 4
In 4 years
Serina must of done some crazy piloting
Serina you mean
yeah
Serina died a year or so after wars
mad auto pilot skills
Oh I was like who the hell is Sophia lol
Man now I feel bad for the SoF crew. Most of their families are probably gone
Or they were forgotten in the chaos in the war
How many troops does the SOF have left?
Around half by halo wars 2
Imagine fighting a bunch of banished on the ring and you just see a Guardian teleport in being piloted by Anders
That's what 5000 left?
20,000 original
The ship can hold 11 thousand crew
10,000 by wars 2
Ten thousand alone on a ship to fight the banished
Oh no I was thinking of the shadow of intent
Hey you know this kinda reminds me of the guerrilla war on the ring in CE
Don't ask how the troop generating mechanics worked, lol
Except this time the unsc has orbital superiority
I kinda wanna see ATN from the UNSC perspective
And can't really use it
The ark is gonna get mad
The SoF destroyed the banished ships
Oh come on its not like unsc orbital bombardment will cause as much damage
I wonder, would anyone on the Infinity even know what the Spirit of Fire is?
They managed to launch archer missiles at the ark in the first mission remember?
For orbital bombarding the banished
Well they know the SoF went missing after the battle of Arcadia and were not able to find it partially hoods fault
Surface damage isn't bad its when they get below the surface it becomes dangerous
So no mac strikes then
I would imagine them salvaging a slip space drive from downed ships on the ark left over from Halo 3 to get out of there.
I wonder what they were doing when the Flood were released
I'm sure there's some downed UNSC ship on the Ark.
there are
And I'd like to see their reactions to seeing the Flood and learning about them
who's reaction?
There are was what one unsc frigate at the battle for the ark?
There were only 2 UNSC ships that went to the Ark, right?
The SOF crew reactiin
Reaction*
And there both gone
but with a slipspace drive powerful enough for the SOF? idk
Plus you can't just slap a slipspace drive from a covenant ship onto a human ship
They already met the flood
i mean i don't think they'd be super shocked, they've faced the flood many times
Plus you can't just slap a slipspace drive from a covenant ship onto a human ship
I mean, they kinda did do that in First Strike (With the help from some Engineers)
Yea with help from engineers
I meant to say seeing the Flood again
But not by themselves
Engineers is the key word
as i said i don't think they'd be that shocked
They would have to stop engineers from trying to kill them and somehow convince them to help them
To use that slipspace drive
Plus what's the point
Isabel will probably fill them in offscreen like she did about Forerunners
They can't let the banished take over the ark
about what? they know about the flood
And banished engineers are kinda sadistic
They know them, but not by name
Plus the ark is probably already buildinh a replacement for zeta halo
They would have to stop engineers from trying to kill them and somehow convince them to help them
Engineers are peaceful, they don't try killing anything
You havnt met banished engineers
Plus the ark is probably already buildinh a replacement for zeta halo
Zeta's damaged, not destroyed
Voridus engineers does
Even sabotaging there weopeans
well the banished are... uhm... messed up
Those are a specific group of Engineers within the Banished, not all of the Banished Engineers
How do you know?
I think engineers are treated worse in the banished than in the covenant
Well it does say the normal engineers avoid voridus engineers
the huragok weren't made to be violent
Anyway they know what the Flood are, they just don't know that they're 'called' the Flood.
have you not played halo wars 1
Ah I see then that engineer lighting up Johnson's cigar wasn't a attack then
That was Virgil
Virgil is nice
virgil good boy
Virgil is on the infinity right now right?
What
With alpha nine
A unsc AI is not in virgil
I have. No one said the name 'Flood' in that. Not even the shield world AI, who calls them a "high order infection" instead. Have YOU not played Halo Wars 1? And if you did, have you not listened to the dialogue?
There was a AI on that shield world?
Virgil gets their name from the AI subroutine it merged with when it was trying to fix the Superintendent of New Mombasa during ODST
In the Cleansing mission
Thank u
So the big circle with sad eyes is actually apart of Virgil right now?
How does that work
Didn't the SoF get scattered marines and personnel on the ark
The ones that survived the banished
Didn't the SoF get scattered marines and personnel on the ark
Are you referring to the ones that Alice-130 saved? They were from the SoF and just got captured by the Banished
They have to have at least 2000 troops left due to the Flood
Where are you pulling this number from?
I'm assuming. You fight quite a lot of infected Marines and UNSC vehicles in ATN
Theres only one unsc enemy in ATN an I was a recon team
Better not to assume. The Flood only got out during Awakening the Nightmare because of the actions of Voridus, the UNSC didn't go inside the quarantine zone around the wreckage of High Charity
^
Halopedia says they have 5,500 crew members, 2,000 of them ground troops. Dunno if that's accurate.
Also, I think 1/3 of their troops are on the new Halo judging by the large number of units you get in Last Stand.
Actually they all evacuated except anders who stayed behind
Even Alpha Base?
don't take gameplay as exact canon repreetnation
they exist
the restoration drones from HW2, right?
How do sangheili reproduce? Cause I didn't see any visible reproductive organs on thel when they stripped him in H2
Hmmm
Then I implore you to look at ducks/geese and reptiles
Cause they'd just be stored internally until they're being used
Thats not what he meant
Like I just said its stored internally like reptiles and some birds.
Also drop this topic cause the mods will yell at us lol
Its halo related and I am avoiding the words that will get me banned
Dont want to meet gaius again
Then I implore you to look at ducks/geese and reptiles
@versed helm That helped
lol
Funny you mention monkeys because in Tagalog, their word for monkey is "Unggoy"
But I'd say while there are similarities between the Grunts and rabbits in terms of how fast they reproduce, there isn't really any single species that lives on Earth they can be compared to
(γ£ββ‘β)γ£ β₯ Throw the Airlock out of the Unggoy β₯
An unggoy is just a space gorilla lobster
Sometimes I wish I could cuddle with a Huragok
Everyone should have a Huragok to cuddle
Unless they have bombs attached
#hednw
their bombs are proximity based
Is the map prisoner/solitary where they kept the primordial?
no
i think
The map description is hella scary tho
βThe security spire's damaged interior only hints at the terrifying power of its previous inhabitant.β
One of the many mysteries of the Haloverse
So true
depends on where that map is located, i guess
cause, we still dont have a proper visual of what the primordial's time chamber looked like
In Cryptum or Primordium? @versed helm
how did sgt johnson not get infected by the flood spores !!
he avoided them
Flood spores are really bad at infecting people
or get plot armor π
Unpopular opinion: I love Kat so much. β€οΈ ok, happy week yβall.
I like Kat too
Don't see how that's an unpopular opinion but... alright.
could be in reference to how many people complain about Noble Team as characters, or complain about kat specifically for reasons
who is kat
A character from Halo Reach
isnβt she like the annoying nerd
i was so happy when the covenant finally shut her up!
i was so happy when the covenant finally shut her up!
@plain sierra how dare u
Kat lifespan was too short but enough to felt in love to her.
Man do I miss her driving
The first time I seen someone lie through their teeth
It was the most suspenseful thing on the game
Will she drive directly into the wraiths or right into the hunter or right off the nearby cliff
All of them are wrong. She somehow drives you straight into the glassing beam
She died asking a question
Curiosity killed the cat
I want a huragok
Floating squid snek
born a nerd and she died a nerd
Start off like cod with killing people and stuffs
@nimble crest COD didn't invent the concept of killing humans in video games.
Who did?
When we were talking about a contact harvest game
Chips dubbo needs more lore
@stable flower bro I know Iβm just comparing it to a relevant game that deals with killing rebels and stuff. Iβm not gonna use resident evil 1 as an example.
Chips dubbo needs more lore
Spartan-IIIs need more lore first
I mean this is an entire Spartan program we are talking about after all. We can only really speculate what happened to the Gammas from sources weβve seen, but I wouldnβt be surprised if a handful of them were made into Headhunter pairs or Lone Wolf operatives (like S-G059)
The strident has some large nukes
I hope we get to see SPI armor in Halo Infinite because it be really annoying how we've had no actual in-game appearance of the armor and only sister/brother variants to it
SPI didn't have shielding
an actual SPI variant in the game would not function like it did in the books so it would already break that aspect
at best you just get something that looks like it but doesn't act like it
Mjolnir that has the appearance of SPI, then
Pilot is heavily influenced by SPI
The only way I see SPI being used is a non Spartan working for ONI during the human covenant war for a game
I would actually prefer to see some non-Spartan military troopers using it
not sure if non-spartans can fully utilize SPI
MJOLNIR was only compatible with Spartans because non spartans would rip themselves apart in it
SPI was only semi powered but still powered
would probably injure a non spartan to use it
That one scene from the Fall of Reach animated movie always reminds me of how wrong the procedure for non-augmented humans test mjolnir went
would probably injure a non spartan to use it```
Veta used it
i don't know who that is
Veta Lopis, from Last Light and Retribution
oh yeah Veta Lopis
She is also the Fireteam leader for the Ferrets that comprise of Olivia, Mark and Ash
How long do you think it take chief to take off his armor
on his own? probably several minutes
Yeah own his own
From the cinematics in spartan ops it seems that or current Gen 2 armor that it takes roughly 5-7 minutes to equip and take off their armor with assistance from the armor stations
with the help of a station I imagine it goes much faster
prob like a million screws
The screws is what makes me think it takes longerπ
Wasn't there a Armor station at the UNSC Alpha base on , well Alpha Halo... As I remember it mentioning in "The Flood" (the original printing I think) Chief taking his MK5 off to take a shower , before he went off to rescue Keyes in the missions Truth and Reconciliation or 343 Guilty Spark
(I need to pick up a copy of The Flood when I have the money)
Spartans do know how to put on and remove their armor without assistance but it undoubtedly takes longer than with machines
Ah
That's why I like the sleek look of Mk IV/4 mjolnir armor in Halo Wars that Red Team wears since it gives off a good impression that it wouldn't take as long as Mk V mjolnir which might be due to the lack shielding technology since its not as bulky as well
Hey guys I wanna try the halo audiobooks, is fall of reach the best to start with?
it is the granddaddy of halo novels
Is the spirit of fire the oldest unsc ship in service?
Cause isn't colony ships hundreds of years old by this point?
Is it possible that there might be Ancient Humans left on Zeta Halo?
Not unless they found and were able to operate some sort of stasis pod.
Obviously they'll still be in their primal stages
which species has a higher role is the covenant brutes or elites
Elites did. Though Truth was preparing the Brutes for command positions in the later years
ok
You mean the Banished? The Covenant isn't a thing anymore
He means the covenant
Elites and brutes were both in the covenant with elites having a higher standing
Until the schism
pilot is still quite removed from the look of SPI, and i hope we get such a look, such as we did with helljumper or ODST armour variants, appearing.
What are the best Halo books to read? I've read Fall of Reach and Ghosts of Onyx but I'm looking for the next best one!
you could try the forerunner series
Broken Circle and Shadow of Intent are also really good.
Bruh did you seriously skip first strike
Glasslands is my recommendation
after First Strike
What is the mantle of responsibility?
Guardianship for all living things lies with those whose evolution is most complete. The Mantle of Responsibility shelters all.
Ah I see and I'm supposing humans were supposed to have it or some
yes but never did
oh heck, he hasnt even read the flood
Ye
I mean, the only races to ever hold it have been the Precursors, Forerunners, and Created
It's an inherently racist ideology
The created deluded themselves into believing they deserve the mantle
Yea it lets one race think they are better than all others
Even the created are being arrogant thinking they could properly hold the mantle because they are AI
Can the mantle even be dropped? Its a ideology right? Doesn't that mean any race can just say they have the mantle of responsibility?
Doesn't that mean any race can just say they have the mantle of responsibility?
Just as easily as somebody declaring, "Okay, we're kings of the galaxy now. Follow us or face the consequences!"
Has the Mantle ever been shown to be something Physical that is held by a Race or is it just an idea?
The latter
Basically once u control the galaxy u control the mantle
No I think a person could just say they hold the mantle of responsibility
Or that's the forerunners interpretation at least
One person can't hold the mantle it has to be an entire species or race
Also I hope humanity abandons the mantle because I would say "humanity superior,alien inferior" are not that interesting,and two they realise that holding the mantle will probably make other races and factions go after them
I'm not actually sure why we were destined for the mantle in the first place
Also I hope humanity abandons the mantle
I think John outright calling it a terrible thing bodes well for that.
If anything the engineers did the least bad things
Its pretty obvious its being pushed that the mantle is flawed especially with the created
If anything the engineers did the least bad things
@cedar surge
The engineers were gonna sit and watch the galaxy get nuked again just so they could do there job
There more like neutral evil
Oh right
I did say the least bad things but in comparison to kidnapping kids or genocide I might have to retract that
Not sure engineers are the type of people you want on a ship
If anything the grunts are the least guilty ones
They eat humans alive
Dude there called engineers for a reason
Imagine if the Grunts had the Mantle lol
They also turned on a nova bomb killing billions of sanghelli and destroying a fleet
Curiosity did kill the cat
Now on a unsc vessel with possibly thousands of missiles do you want to take that chance
It just also blew up the planet
The infinity has a few hundred on it and there not dead yet
yet
Just wait until they find another galaxy destroying installation, then you will see engineers destroying the galaxy
Plus it was the first time they saw something new like that remember the first time John saw an engineer
Plus at least there not the engineers from "Aliens"
i has a doubt
in the demo, escheram
(idk how to pronunce that properly)
says that the ring is under their control
and soon, the auditorium(?) will be as well
im pretty sure i heard that wrong
but can someone please clarify that part?
We still don't know what the auditorium is
There's no mention of it in primordium and silentium
Could be referring to mendicant's old housing
Cause he could control the whole ring from there
Given the library houses the index maybe the auditorium is a different control suite
Maybe for the sentinels or something
Don't forget that zeta is different from other installations
Yeah thats true but I feel like thats a non starter when theorizing
Do you think that Spartan-IIβs have access to spray paint?
Considering new mombasa citizens did while the covenant was invading
Jorge painters his armor, so Iβm assuming so
Noble team is special
even spartan IIIs dont paint their SPIs
I think painting became popular among spartan IVs
What is the probability a spartan III Would have MJOLNIR mk5
For a project
During, around February of 2252 or late late 2551
Probably only cat 2s
Cat 2s?
which are like 1 or 2 in a hundred
Cat 2s?
@nimble crest spartan IIIs whose genes could have passed the spartan 2 augs
Pretty much what Iβm going for
Leader of a squad that couldβve passed for a spartan II if he was any older
yep
Making a few maps to go along with this too
They're as strong if not stronger than spartan 2s
Right now we only know about a handful of cat 2s and unknown spartans in lone wolf
Team Trident
3 Spartans
Might make it around battle of reach to fit with the battle groups on their way to reach
You could fit it with Reach's ending
In lone wolf we find a lot of unknown dead spartans in mjolnir mk5
They're all probably spartan IIIs in mjolnir as well
You know how dot said the first battle groups would arrive in 48 hours?
Since all Spartan IIs wore olive green mk5
send a link when you complete it
I would love to read it
One of them had the team and they had to make a random slip space jump to avoid the covenant and ended up at a undisturbed ring
They found installation 03 during battle of reach
Doesn't sound original considering this
I still want to learn where I03 went after The Next 72 hours. XD
I want to know where abject testament was the whole time
The covenant followed through the same slip space jump and the frigate crashed behind the big mountain in forge world that has a face, but enough supplies were able to be saved and the ground forces were met with a monitor, that was able to teleport most supplies to the area titled coliseum in the map, and spent a week repairing equipment, and nursing injured personnel. The covenant spent that week believing the crash was completely dead, but they were just hiding. The frigate held a large sum of troopers and equipment, along with one of the components of the slip space being intact.
Nate b295
Cain b231
Ava 051
This installation had two monitors, one to construct and repair, and one to manage
Without the authority of the high prophets, the orders come from the shipmaster
Halo rings only have one monitor, Magicka
The warden is not a monitor.
The monitor body would be a little inefficient for one meant for secuirity
he did overlook the forerunner capital
No he didnβt
What gave you that impression?
I think they're confusing Warden Eternal with the Warden construct that resided in the Forerunner capital and served at Faber's trial
How deep are the halo rings like in general
Deep?
Yup lol
You mean the thickness of the ring?
So in Broken Circle itβs said that the way to Sanghelios has been lost, wiped or whatever. But Halo 5 you are fighting on the surface. Is this an error?
Or have I misheard
The way to Sanghelios was lost to the Ussans when the Refuge was dismantled, not to everyone in the Covenant
Dawg I know they have one Iβm trying to be creative
There was one originally but they split and made two sides of the same coin.
This channel is for actual canon. For head canon, I guess general?
Iβm working on a fan made story sorry
Feel free to publish it in #471727324895641651 when finished
Want to hear the preview?
why did so many sparten II die
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why did so many sparten II die
Do you mean in general as thatβs because of their augmentations, but if you mean in battle well in most cases they either sacrificed themselves or were overwhelmed by opposing forces
fighting off against literal thousands of aliens with superior technology generally isnt good for your health
Do people stil use mjoner mk1, mk2, and mk3
I do not believe that is a thing
so nobody uses mjoner mk1, mk2, and mk3
i know red team uses mk4
Yep
I donβt believe thatβs even a real thing
You donβt believe what is a real thing?
Mk 1 2 and 3
really i thought red team was mk v?
No they are a thing.
You can look em up. From what I remember they kind of look puffed up and bulky.
If you are getting into technicals itβs the the prototype suit
IIRC MKI-III are more like really bulky exosuits compared to what we are used to
Yep.
why did the helmat desiegn change from MKV to MKVI
AESTHETICS
Upgrade in armor and tech
but they use MKIV helmate for the MKV
What?
They are all upgrades of each other
The MkIV is essentially the Mk5 but with minor upgrades and the Integrated shield technology
other way around
Yeah same thing
Mk V is an upgrade from Mk IV
featuring shielding and AI integration
where is the AI slot in the MKV
In the back of the helmet? Where chief puts Cortana?
but its not there
In CE the chip slot is consistently shown as being on the left side of the helmet IIRC
I thought that was just inconsistenty because Chief literally just takes the thing from Keyes head and Jams it into the back of his head and it like lights up
in the first level you see chief put the chip in the back of his helmet
^
Oh right itβs in the back of the helmet
Itβs in the same place as the mk6 too
no if you look at the back of MKV its not there
im on mcc
that's just graphical limitations
Because thatβs halo 1 graphics
if it's reach then it is there, it probably just doesn't look as obvious as you'd expect
Halo reach doesnβt have it
I know what heβs looking at, they didnβt model it on reach prolly because there wasnβt a reason to
Halo 3 the mkv is not there
im talking about the AI chip
You canβt see the chip because itβs inside the helmet !
I dont see it
Get it?
i dont see the AI slot
Iβm looking at it right now and thereβs a circular detail right smack dab in the middle of the back
then the artists were lazy but canonically the Mark V has a AI chip slot
Seems to be pretty heavily implied as the slot to me
Are you talking about the chip or the slot?
slot
why don't you take a screenshot of what you're looking at and post a link so we can see and point out where the slot is
lmao fr
Can we just make a channel for pictures
definately an AI chip slot there
yea that helmet has a chip slot, it's just not obvious
question
where
Dawg
that circle thing
Yes
Can we have a server for posting pictures of halo stuffs
that would be sweet
Fr
oh i see it
I want to show my spartan π
You can send an imgur link so we can see
the slot for the AI is most notible for halo 2A with the the MKVI
How old is Misriah exactly?
So where in the galaxy is Site Yankee-002-G3 located?
Plus,what is AZURE MOON?
on azure moon
What is azure moon
Some weird ONI thing i guess
Lots of weird ONI things
Is that the place they put the reporter who was about to expose the spartan program?
You mean the Midnight Facility
Speaking of it,has the Midnight Facility been compromised by Cortana?
Maybe they meant Argent Moon
I think on I is paranoid enough to hide the facility from AI
Heck you can blame ONI for anything in halo and you might be right
War? Of course ONI is keeping the war going
Disapearing of children? Of only you knew that your kids are being put into armored suits and sent to war zones
This is the carrier shadow of intent
Was the Summa Deep Space Incident covering something up?
Now that I think about it,Haley may of had a point about indoctrinating them young. Of course its still bad but I don't think other generations had as much problems with traitors than the Spartan IVs
terrible
just stop
Not only would that ruin 20 years of lore,that would ruin any investment in the story
Who in their right mind would say that's a good idea
a nut
Nut?
This is not a rabbit hole we should go down
a crazy dude
Yea, I guess you are right.
I didnβt get to finish reading that
My biggest wish is that they wont do a redo of mendicant bias vs. offensive bias. with cortana and the other half of halsyes AI
Plus,what is AZURE MOON?
Unknown. If the Argent Moon is any indicator, it might be another ONI research station, but thereβs not really much to work with, since itβs only ever been mentioned like once.
Iβll always look back at Halo 5βs marketing and be sad. Imagine what it could have been
There are hundreds of Spartan IVs but have they done any operations like hundreds of Spartan IIIs used to do?
But these are fully equipped spartan IVs
It was a rarity that a spartan 3 would last more than one mission
Uh. No.
I think they have a better chance of surviving
The S-IIIs were literally meant as expendable super soldiers, the S-IVs aren't meant for those kinds of missions
Spartan-IIIs survived multiple missions before entire companies were wiped out in Torpedo and Prometheus
@carmine sleet This thing is right. The spartan 3s are a weapon. Lance is making a big mistake
Didn't need to tag me
There are hundreds of Spartan IVs but have they done any operations like hundreds of Spartan IIIs used to do?
I mean in general there hasn't been as much of a need for it
The UNSC's just fending off Covenant remnant groups at this point instead of a full-scale war for survival.
Like sending Spartans to defend the outer colonies
Well, Spartan 4s will never be the same as spartan 2s or 3s because of the immense and immoral training. The Spartan 2s and 3s are also more likely to be sociopaths, which increases their effectiveness in combat.
Well Jun did say a line about how if a Spartan displayed or turned traitor another Spartan would instantly kill them or something
So I think you are right there
Thatβs what Halo 5 was supposed to be about. Master Chief vs an ONI spartan
Locke isn't ONI anymore
He is apart of the Spartan branch now
Hmm?
Like, when he became an S-IV, he was no longer ONI
Spartans got their own branch
They did post war
still I think they have ONI influence
I didnβt play Halo 5, so I have no idea
They were their own branch in Halo 4
Nah I think it was introduced in 4
Locke gathered intelligence for ONI during the human-covenant war. Why did he become a spartan?
Thatβs what I donβt get for a lot of the Spartan 4s thereβs no reason to become a spartan besides βI felt like it.β
Lol
Didn't a person become a Spartan because their parents were politicians?
The Spartan 4s just donβt have a compelling story like the others
Spartans were hand picked by ONI
Sorry you find ethics boring
Madsen on Fireteam Majestic got into the S-IV program because nepotism apparently, yeah
Iβm just saying itβs not as interesting story wise as the spartan 2s or 3s
He was an average marine with no distinguishing characteristics
Tragedy may be interesting but it shouldnβt be normalized
Lol youβre kidding, right?
No
Thatβs the whole point of ONI. Itβs a morally bankrupt shadow organization
The creation of the spartan 2s and 3s was tragic, it saved humanity but it wasnβt right and shouldnβt be replicated
They should stay in character
Really? I thought ONI picked the best of the best to become spartans
No they kidnapped kids
The Spartan-IV programβs recruitment criteria are... vague, at best.
Feels fairly arbitrary, to be honest.
I'm talking about the Spartan IVs
ONI has experimented with the flood on live subjects, and you think they care about morals?
Chimera
Madsenβs dad or something is high up enough in the UNSC that he pulled some strings to get him into the program
Well pat
During the war
Numerous times On I nearly got found out about the spartans
Well I guess only a few times
But imagine if they kept doing it and got caught finally
Spartan IVs exist because a former spartan II realized the importance of Spartans to the safety of humanity
So he invented a program to continue the legacy that didnβt ruin lives
It would probably cause a massive insurrection spike
Though getting in the Spartan 4 program not through merit but through politics might be a downside
ORIONs and SPARTAN-IIs were made to fight insurrectionists, SPARTAN-IIIs were made to fight the Covenant, what were SPARTAN-IVs made to fight?
I think thatβs a minority.
what were SPARTAN-IVs made to fight?
Anything they need to.
Everything
Iβm saying ONI will do anything for humanity to survive, and they do not care about morals. They only care about results. ONI tried to kill the Sangheili off, so they wouldnβt be a threat
I want some more news as to what's going on Created controlled Earth
Musa and jun probably had to make some beaurocratic concessions to get spartan branch off the ground
We shouldn't be supporting the more kidnapping of kids
I still like to know how Jun got off Reach
Though there are more chances of traitors in the Spartan 4 program
You mean reach?
I think he climbed
Sorry typo
I think he climbed a orbital elevator
I am not supporting the kidnapping of children. Iβm saying it seems out of character for ONI
ONI only does shadowy stuff when they can get away with it
Also ONI is not behind spartan iv program
A spartan created the program
Which one?
Musa
Iβm not familiar with that spartan
Wasn't Musa a washout?
He was crippled by the augs but he still has spartan training
The kids were trained before they got the augs
Spartans never die. Theyβre just missing in action
Didn't Thel glass Eridanus II?
I honestly have no idea what planet or construct that is
John's home planet
Reach? Yes
Really? I thought he was born there
Nope
It would have played into the dynamic a bit more
Spartans came from all over human controlled space
Mostly outer worlds where it was easier for kids to go missing
Whatever happened to Parisa?
I mean if Thelβ Vadum destroyed Johnβs home world, it would fuel Chief to destroy the Covenant
Vadam*
Did he even know?
The revenge Schtick was the spartan 3s
in what sense? like he witnessed it in his childhood or just heard it on the news?
cuz, as Chimera pointed out the S-IIIs got the revenge schtick
John spent half of his childhood on Reach - Eridanus II was a foggy memory by the time the Covenant War started
Kurt, Spartan-051 trained the spartan 3s
he sure did
yes he did, though I'm sure if that is relevant to your previous statement
Yeah, what happened to the planet the Spartan 3s trained on, Onyx?
Mendez was the man
Menedez didnβt train the Spartans. He just overlooked the program
Onyx was destroyed in the events of Halo: Ghosts of Onyx
Mendez*
He was still the best
Mendez did directly train the S-IIs and S-IIIs
he may have been head DI but he did take part in directly training the Spartans
Yea, thats what I thought too
Spartan 051 trained the spartan 3s, but Mendez trained the spartan 2s. Thatβs what I thought
Mendez was involved in both
Mendez was brought on to train both generations
Was Mendez killed in a tent on a halo?
no he survived the war
Ah, but he was in a tent on the first ring, right? I believe I remember reading he called MC into a tent
his last canonical appearance was as the mayor of the research installation/city Paxapolis in the book Halo: Legacy of Onyx by Matt Forbeck (set in 2558, around same time as H5:G)
he never set foot on a Halo ring
Must have been keyes then
probably
I remeber reading "Mesa" all the time, not knowing what a mesa was.
You might be thinking of 1LT Melissa McKay, or Major Antonio Silva
i feel that, it's been a decade since I've read any Nylund novels
only reason I remember is from using Halopedia alot
Itβs been a while since I read The Flood but oddly I think itβs one of the few novels I remember pretty well
Felt like a crazy person when I was talking about the bit where Chief took a shower and no one else in the conversation had heard of it
I can't even remember that lol, just one of those things that slip the mind
last time I discussed or saw someone discussing the Flood on my halo discords - it was just critiques of the writing whether it was the prose or how the Spartan sections were boring because they were just retellings of Halo 1
One of the weirder things that I think is a result of The Flood is that I always expect to encounter like a Marineβs body at the third level of The Library whenever I replay CE
because I think I constantly end up mixing up the dead Marine that Chief runs into in 343 Guilty Spark with Mobuto
When I hear Mesa, I think of Black Mesa
no, doctors and wounds are frowned upon in Sangheili culture but that's not to say they don't have them
or that Sangheili are a backwards society
a wound/scar is of course looked on with shame, or maybe as a prize depending on the story behind it
They donβt have medics in the covenant?
they have medics in the Covenant, given the Covenant isn't a single culture or species
for the Sangheili specific, their culture for a long time has treated doctors/medical practitioners as one of the lowest career rungs in their society, but they are still necessary work
under the Arbiter since 2553, they've improved and become more vital to the Swords of Sanghelios pushing aside a lot of the stigma of honor-loss
who created cortana??
So when a elite gets hurt in a battle do they just accept death```
Besides what Tide said, Silent Storm has Sangheili soldiers get treated on hospital ships, and an Elite in Hunters in the Dark talks about using autodocs to heal themselves, but personally holds the view that if the machine isn't able to heal him, then them's the breaks and he's fine with dying.
So if a sanghelli managed to survive many battles in the human covenant war but got some scars would it be looked soon with shame or as a sign of a good warrior
Many might look at it favorably
Probably. They're pretty smart.
the Covenant did spend 3000 years space faring before Humanity reached the cosmos
The Covenant made use of a handful of conventional projectile firearms like the carbines so I'd assume they'd still be plenty able to
Would human guns do around the same damage as a brute gun would do
Depends on size and speed, I suppose. At least
I would say that human guns are more advanced
nah, Brute weapons are more advanced - Brutes aren't using a powdered firearm propellant like us humans
well, some of them are like the Mangler and Mauler
Tgen what are they using
Its not like they are shooting plasma
They are basically shooting hot spikes right
yeah but it looks like they're using magnetism to lob their ammunition
That would explain the shiny blue lights in the halo 3 interview ads
well even human weapons have that affect where they glow when powered on
human guns are essentially if apple iphones had a shooting mechanic
built-in electronics
Yea they also work with neural implants
well not necessarily, human weapons don't need to link to neural implants
They don't even need a scope on the gun anymore when they can just use the visors in helmets
they just connect to an armor's targeting system and user Heads Up Display
the UNSC uses essentially this technology in all their guns
as for the Brutes, I did a little more digging, actually they use artificial gravity to shoot their weapons
Nice
Artificial gravity. Is that more efficient than just using gunpowder
no
it's super complicated
sorry I added a bad word there
think of it this way, we've been using firearms with gunpowder for the last 1000 years
we haven't even been able to figure out something close to artificial gravity IRL
the Brutes are working with advanced stuff
The UNSC also uses artificial gravity
yes but they don't use it in small firearms
humans haven't found a way to miniaturize it in the lore as far as I can tell
The brutes use tech similar to humanity
I wonder if they would have also put MAC guns on their ships if they didn't nuke themselves
I could see it as being a possibility they would have MAC types back in the bygone era of advanced tech
Is it true that Master Chief is just a really intelligent space monkey?
Yes
knew it!!!
Is the writer for the Shadows of Reach novel any good? Has he written Halo books before?
Is it true Craig is emiles brother
Ye. He's written Last Light, Retribution, Silent Storm, and Oblivion.