#lore-and-universe | Halo | Page 374

thin elk Aug 13, 2020, 5:47 AM

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Thx, they were really close in visuals, and both were modified

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Like, they were not the base armor

frank copper Aug 13, 2020, 5:47 AM

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Jun is one of the luckiest characters in the series

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Dude survived Reach

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last of his team

thin elk Aug 13, 2020, 5:48 AM

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Exactly

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BTW, when the Primordial talks about humans, it is like it is Primordial's wish, or it is just telling some inevitable consequence of the forerunner-flood war?
Just place it here if anybody knows

heady void Aug 13, 2020, 5:48 AM

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who is the primordial? is that separate from the didact?

thin elk Aug 13, 2020, 5:49 AM

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who is the primordial? is that separate from the didact?
@heady void The Primordial is also named the Captive

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From the Forerunner trilogy

heady void Aug 13, 2020, 6:01 AM

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did mass effect just rip off halo? ancient enemy that is a threat to all life is a threat once again? Reapers=flood? Bioware explain

thin elk Aug 13, 2020, 6:05 AM

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Don't think so, despite of some similarities and probably a bit of inspiration. Did you notice that the ship from Halo Anniversary looks like a reaper?

heady void Aug 13, 2020, 6:07 AM

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you look like a reaper

thin elk Aug 13, 2020, 6:08 AM

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Do I?

heady void Aug 13, 2020, 6:08 AM

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yea but u can "reap" my "galaxy" anyday

thin elk Aug 13, 2020, 6:09 AM

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Oh my forerunner(omg)

heady void Aug 13, 2020, 6:10 AM

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yo how many warnings do i get lmao

thin elk Aug 13, 2020, 6:11 AM

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IDK, I'm new here

heady void Aug 13, 2020, 6:11 AM

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u wanna get high and talk about the halo effect

thin elk Aug 13, 2020, 6:12 AM

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and still think that the ship from that terminal is the biggest mistery

heady void Aug 13, 2020, 6:12 AM

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which ship

thin elk Aug 13, 2020, 6:13 AM

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The one that crashed in installation 04 with no survivors

limpid kernel Aug 13, 2020, 6:13 AM

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What did i just read

heady void Aug 13, 2020, 6:13 AM

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poetry

thin elk Aug 13, 2020, 6:14 AM

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What did i just read
@limpid kernel I'm as confused as u

heady void Aug 13, 2020, 6:16 AM

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when does master chief die

limpid kernel Aug 13, 2020, 6:17 AM

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Right now.
Runs Chief into the water

frank copper Aug 13, 2020, 6:17 AM

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What are the Guardians, and why does The Warden look at Cortana as waifu

thin elk Aug 13, 2020, 6:18 AM

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What are the Guardians, and why does The Warden look at Cortana as waifu
@frank copper Guardians are as peace keepers as spartans acting against the human rebellion

heady void Aug 13, 2020, 6:19 AM

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is ur profile pic from halo legends

thin elk Aug 13, 2020, 6:19 AM

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Yes, it is

limpid kernel Aug 13, 2020, 6:19 AM

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Yeah, my pic is from legends

lethal comet Aug 13, 2020, 6:19 AM

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Actually, just noticed the Visual Guide says he wore a modified Mark IV. So ¯_(ツ)_/¯
called it

heady void Aug 13, 2020, 6:21 AM

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pepehands asking for a friend

limpid kernel Aug 13, 2020, 6:21 AM

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No, he's into arbiter

frank copper Aug 13, 2020, 6:22 AM

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I forget Chief has hair

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I see him as a old white bald guy currently

heady void Aug 13, 2020, 6:23 AM

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I just dont even want to imagine Chiefs face, his helmet is iconic enough for me

limpid kernel Aug 13, 2020, 6:23 AM

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He has Nice wavy brown hair and a handsome face as seen in halo 2

heady void Aug 13, 2020, 6:25 AM

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so, in Halo 3, there are still flood coming to earth right? like the gravemind? how did that battle go as Chief was on the ark? Did the flood redirect their forces to the Ark?

cedar surge Aug 13, 2020, 6:27 AM

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Oh all the flood That was left(the elites made a blockade that destroyed most of the infected fleet, leaving only a ship and HC) on high charity went to the ark. The last ship they had was sent to earth and was glassed

heady void Aug 13, 2020, 6:28 AM

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so they werent much of a threat

fair hazel Aug 13, 2020, 6:28 AM

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@heady void Let's keep the questions appropriate.

heady void Aug 13, 2020, 6:29 AM

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it was, just those pesky naughty words making their way into normal speech! Ill improve sir!

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.....Buzzkill

lethal comet Aug 13, 2020, 6:32 AM

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Probably just took HC straight into the portal like a meteorite

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Since it came out over the ark with a high velocity

heady void Aug 13, 2020, 6:33 AM

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Lord Hood made it such a big deal that it was Earth's last stand doe

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But i guess Chief inadvertently made the flood change plans from going to Earth to going to the Ark so they can get blown up by a Halo ring

fair hazel Aug 13, 2020, 6:35 AM

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High charity did not go to the portal.

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It went near mars and used neural physics tech to travel to the ark

heady void Aug 13, 2020, 6:39 AM

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thx buzzkill

sturdy tangle Aug 13, 2020, 6:49 AM

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Lore on the banshee in my DMS pleas

limpid kernel Aug 13, 2020, 6:51 AM

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Huh

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What lore on banshees and why in your dms

heady void Aug 13, 2020, 6:52 AM

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This is how ONI recruits kids into the Spartan program nowadays

limpid kernel Aug 13, 2020, 6:52 AM

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Incredible

lethal comet Aug 13, 2020, 7:29 AM

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It went near mars and used neural physics tech to travel to the ark
wasn't everthing using neural physics destroyed

stiff creek Aug 13, 2020, 7:34 AM

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Supposedly.

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And while it was probably "tech" in some way, neural physics was a bit like magic in itself.

fair hazel Aug 13, 2020, 7:48 AM

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Ancient precursor knowledge

raw smelt Aug 13, 2020, 8:30 AM

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Precursors are bad juju

inner basin Aug 13, 2020, 9:33 AM

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@gilded mason I believe Jorge wore a modified Mk. IV[G], which was also the testbed for energy shielding (hence why he has the huge prototypical shield generator attached to his chestplate). As for the rest of Noble, they actually wore Mk. V variants with Six being the only one wearing Mk. V[B]. At least that’s how I’ve interpreted things

slow igloo Aug 13, 2020, 9:37 AM

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Anything out there in regards to Atriox's motives? Other than for powers sake? Like how and why is he on the Ark?

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Seem to remember he arrived after the portal closed (Which is when the Created take control I think?)

inner basin Aug 13, 2020, 9:42 AM

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Well the Ark’s foundry creates Halo rings. Besides that, it’s the best place to gain power. We don’t really know his motives other than power atm

raw smelt Aug 13, 2020, 9:45 AM

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He wants to make copys of halo infinite

slow igloo Aug 13, 2020, 9:46 AM

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Would be nice to think he's actually trying to rebel against the Created.
But that still doesnt answer how he got there. The Ark is pretty much out of reach from "normal" slip space cores. I just dont see them being able to make that journey but also dont see who ever pulled the SoF to the Ark, pulling them there either.

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So many questions left unanswered

leaden minnow Aug 13, 2020, 11:20 AM

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Did the unsc now they were living above the gateway to the ark or were they to oblivious to see what was right in front of them

clever fable Aug 13, 2020, 11:22 AM

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The ONI building you destroy as Mickey/Dutch in ODST was built above it to study the structure, as part of it had been discovered and ONI needed a front to keep the site secure.

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They knew about it in some fashion.

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Probably didn't know that it was a portal going to some unknown point in intergalactic space though.

versed helm Aug 13, 2020, 11:43 AM

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Wait, so that ONI building in ODST was actually on top of the ark?

clever fable Aug 13, 2020, 11:46 AM

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The portal isn't the ark. However the ONI building was above the structure, probably some outer portion of the rim. I don't know where New Mombasa is relative to the overall structure, but the ONI Building is in New Mombasa, above some portion of the portal structure.

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In Halo 3: ODST's legendary ending, you actually get to see the prophet of Truth hover over the structure underneath the ground for a moment.

versed helm Aug 13, 2020, 11:48 AM

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My bad, I meant the ark portal lmao.

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Wow I don't remember that at all. More reason to wait until ODST comes out and play it once again. Neat.

versed helm Aug 13, 2020, 1:09 PM

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two of the three prophets fall to the flood, right?

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truth kinda falls to the flood, in 3

lethal comet Aug 13, 2020, 1:14 PM

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Not really ig

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Arbiter kill him before he was completely infected

versed helm Aug 13, 2020, 1:14 PM

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i remember chief kills one, in H2

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was that mercy, or regret?

lethal comet Aug 13, 2020, 1:15 PM

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regret

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He technically kills mercy as well

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killing the infection pod killed mercy

versed helm Aug 13, 2020, 1:16 PM

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mercy had gotten absorbed by the gravemind in 2, right?

lethal comet Aug 13, 2020, 1:17 PM

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regret's body got absorbed and mercy's as well likely

versed helm Aug 13, 2020, 1:17 PM

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so what happened to mercy? i cant remember that

lethal comet Aug 13, 2020, 1:17 PM

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Chief killing mercy was a mercy killing ironically

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Dying was better than becoming flood

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so what happened to mercy? i cant remember that
@versed helm Truth left him to the flood after an infection pod got through his body guards

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The great journey waits for no one, not even you

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Truth could have saved Mercy but he was being kind of a ****

terse lava Aug 13, 2020, 1:45 PM

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Mercy was later absorbed by the flood anyay

versed helm Aug 13, 2020, 2:30 PM

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yeah

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the people who wanted the great journey got it, alright

round comet Aug 13, 2020, 2:31 PM

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ayee im back on discord

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how many incorrect opinions have been seen

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on this fine day

versed helm Aug 13, 2020, 2:32 PM

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dont know, dont care

round comet Aug 13, 2020, 2:32 PM

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oH how many sprint arguements

feral perch Aug 13, 2020, 2:33 PM

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stop

carmine sleet Aug 13, 2020, 2:33 PM

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Just search the word "Sprint" and find out that way

feral perch Aug 13, 2020, 2:33 PM

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this is the wrong channel for sprint arguments

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go to #general-chat or #483759756566069258 for that crap

round comet Aug 13, 2020, 2:34 PM

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ooo boy the word had been mentioned for like a hundred times lol

thin elk Aug 13, 2020, 2:34 PM

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Oh all the flood That was left(the elites made a blockade that destroyed most of the infected fleet, leaving only a ship and HC) on high charity went to the ark. The last ship they had was sent to earth and was glassed
@cedar surge Is it in any book or comic? I'd like to see more details of this

round comet Aug 13, 2020, 2:35 PM

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i dont think there is

thin elk Aug 13, 2020, 2:35 PM

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Hey, does anyone here knows about the Primordial and Menticant Bias?

round comet Aug 13, 2020, 2:36 PM

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yes

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ask away if you have questions

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i have the 🍿 for theories

thin elk Aug 13, 2020, 2:37 PM

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What did the Primordial mean when saying that humanity would take the galaxy?

round comet Aug 13, 2020, 2:38 PM

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he meant that the humans will attain the mantle the way the precursors wanted them to

thin elk Aug 13, 2020, 2:38 PM

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It was like he wanted it or like he was just narrating the inevitable fate of the galaxy after the forerunner flood war?

round comet Aug 13, 2020, 2:39 PM

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i think he knew they will, and he wished to test them.

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although i dont entirely believe that humans ever did attain the mantle, heck they didnt even know what "the mantle" is

thin elk Aug 13, 2020, 2:41 PM

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There are many things that the Primordial says that looks more like a psycho game than the naked truth

round comet Aug 13, 2020, 2:41 PM

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they werent aware of its existence, it was an idealogy that the forerunners based everything upon

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There are many things that the Primordial says that looks more like a psycho game than the naked truth

yeah, you could say that.

thin elk Aug 13, 2020, 2:43 PM

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The mantle is a distorced version of the duty to mantain the galaxy as an ecosystem

round comet Aug 13, 2020, 2:45 PM

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the forerunners belief in the mantle was simply "the most advanced species has the right to hold stewardship over all other life"

thin elk Aug 13, 2020, 2:45 PM

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yeah, you could say that.
@round comet It makes no sense to wish that humanity rule just to consume humanity, unless it is meant only to shame forerunners

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the forerunners belief in the mantle was simply "the most advanced species has the right to hold stewardship over all other life"
@round comet It gets a little close to what the precursors meant, but that right wasn't about being advanced

round comet Aug 13, 2020, 2:51 PM

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It makes no sense to wish that humanity rule just to consume humanity, unless it is meant only to shame forerunners

maybe he didnt want humanity to "rule", the precurors wanted to them to inherit the mantle from them and have the same idealogy as they do.

like take this, theres a dad who wants to give all his possessions to his son and use all that the right way, then we have the stubborn elder brother who got jealous, stole all the possessions and used them the wrong way but with good intent.

thats like the best analogy i can come up with rn lol

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the ancient humanity is the younger brother, the forerunners are the elder brother and the precursors are the dad

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yeah what am i saying superintendent here

thin elk Aug 13, 2020, 2:52 PM

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That is a really good analogy

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Got it

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But the flood would try to consume humanity anyways

round comet Aug 13, 2020, 2:55 PM

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the flood didnt exist at that time, when the forerunners killed the precursors

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in many ways the flood was a revenge plot set by the precursors

thin elk Aug 13, 2020, 2:55 PM

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the flood didnt exist at that time, when the forerunners killed the precursors
@round comet Oh, sorry

round comet Aug 13, 2020, 2:55 PM

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wait you dont know exactly what the flood are?

thin elk Aug 13, 2020, 2:57 PM

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I was asking about Primordial being interrogated by menticant bias

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The precursors were already corrupted in the flood there

round comet Aug 13, 2020, 2:58 PM

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you are asking what exactly?

thin elk Aug 13, 2020, 2:58 PM

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What the primordial wanted with humanity

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If the primordial, after meeting menticant bias, wanted humanity to take humanity's role or just wanted to consume them.

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Wanted the flood to cinsume them*

round comet Aug 13, 2020, 3:03 PM

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uhuhhhh hmmmm uhhhhhh

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"It was long ago decided. Forerunners will never bear the Mantle."

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"Through long study. The decision is final. Humans will replace you. Humans will be tested next."

thin elk Aug 13, 2020, 3:04 PM

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Thanks

round comet Aug 13, 2020, 3:05 PM

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so, the primordial's goal for humanity was to test them to determine if they deserve the mantle

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and the whole MB plot was him trying to destroy the forerunners

thin elk Aug 13, 2020, 3:06 PM

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The test is trying to consume them, a nice one

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I need to read the books again, I started more than 5 years ago

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With this in my mind (again, after some years) I suppose that humanity's test is completly beating the flood

round comet Aug 13, 2020, 3:37 PM

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i doubt that

keen delta Aug 13, 2020, 3:38 PM

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10,000 usages of the word sprint

round comet Aug 13, 2020, 3:39 PM

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im not surprised

versed helm Aug 13, 2020, 3:58 PM

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humanity's test is to finally decide if sprint is good or bad

sturdy star Aug 13, 2020, 4:28 PM

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A question far greater then anything we've faced.

versed helm Aug 13, 2020, 4:33 PM

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one that's been dragging on longer than the forerunner-human conflict

thin elk Aug 13, 2020, 4:48 PM

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i doubt that
@round comet why?

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humanity's test is to finally decide if sprint is good or bad
@versed helm It is it

versed helm Aug 13, 2020, 4:55 PM

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yeah, i think sprint is legit

thin elk Aug 13, 2020, 6:30 PM

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Hey, did the portal to ark close after Halo 3?

gilded mason Aug 13, 2020, 6:30 PM

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Yeah, the Ark getting heavily damaged forced it shut.

carmine sleet Aug 13, 2020, 6:30 PM

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It then got reopened in 2555, before being closed again in 2558

gilded mason Aug 13, 2020, 6:30 PM

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Yup

versed helm Aug 13, 2020, 6:46 PM

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2558 is HW2, right?

gilded mason Aug 13, 2020, 6:47 PM

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Nah

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2559

carmine sleet Aug 13, 2020, 6:48 PM

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2559, Atriox had been at the Ark for a few months before the game began after arriving the long way since the portal was closed a month before his arrival

versed helm Aug 13, 2020, 7:32 PM

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ahh.

flat swift Aug 13, 2020, 7:32 PM

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What's the oldest mjonear armor in use?

versed helm Aug 13, 2020, 7:46 PM

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i guess it would be red team

flat swift Aug 13, 2020, 7:47 PM

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Dont they have mk4?

versed helm Aug 13, 2020, 7:52 PM

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idk. they went missing for 28 years

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the S-IIs had just come out in HW1

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so i think they have the oldest armour

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but the best looking

carmine sleet Aug 13, 2020, 8:10 PM

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They use Mark IV in Halo Wars 1 and while they use it early on in HW2, they do start modifying their Mark IV with new components based off of gen 2 hardware

inner basin Aug 13, 2020, 11:42 PM

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To add to the above, they aren't using the basic Mk. IV, it's a prototype implemented with energy shielding tech (as I believe that their energy shielding in HW1 was canonised). Then in HW2 with the more modern tech they find at the Ark they modify their GEN1 armour, but the latter half of this message was already covered by Slip pretty well

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 1:06 AM

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Do u think if they had the newest armout they couldve taken atriox on?

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Or do a decent number on him

delicate notch Aug 14, 2020, 1:19 AM

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Atriox had a similar kind of armor to the Spartans without their shield(Or am I wrong?). And since brutes have 3x the body weight of a Spartan Id say they have a pretty even 1v1 win-ratio. Spartans are better in CQC and brutes are more tanky in hand2hand.

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 1:51 AM

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all the banished important people have skunkworked armour. atriox, decomius, pavium, voridus

terse lava Aug 14, 2020, 1:51 AM

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Decimus had a full blown mech suit

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 1:52 AM

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decimus was the brute version of johnson's green machine

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 2:21 AM

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Any status on installation 09 or we’ll find out next year

lethal comet Aug 14, 2020, 2:29 AM

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Shadows of reach could reveal something

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 2:31 AM

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True and could the halo array fire if one of the seven rings are missing/destroyed

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Dex

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09 was caught by cortana during transit

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Ik that

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 3:10 AM

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So what was the unsc plan in halo 3 odst when the odsts actually manage to land on the thing. Don't those things have millions of covenant

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That had to be less than 100 odsts dropping

humble yacht Aug 14, 2020, 3:15 AM

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The plan wasn’t to land on the ship

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Alpha Nine had a different set of orders

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Dare just didn’t tell them about that until the last minute

thin elk Aug 14, 2020, 3:26 AM

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True and could the halo array fire if one of the seven rings are missing/destroyed
@versed helm It didn't happen after installation 04 got punched by chief

lethal comet Aug 14, 2020, 3:41 AM

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Alpha Nine had a different set of orders
I think he's talking about the other squads landing on solemn penance

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So what was the unsc plan in halo 3 odst when the odsts actually manage to land on the thing. Don't those things have millions of covenant
@cedar surge They were going after regret

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 3:45 AM

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Oh so they were just going to grab regret and get out

thin elk Aug 14, 2020, 3:49 AM

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Oh so they were just going to grab regret and get out
@cedar surge probably

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 3:52 AM

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But still you would have to fight through a lot of covenant to get to him

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And I'm assuming most of the odsts sent died in the in atmo slipspace jump

paper hedge Aug 14, 2020, 4:19 AM

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What happened to Kat arm?

fringe robin Aug 14, 2020, 4:19 AM

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What happened to Kat arm?
@paper hedge https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18-_9E0HNY4

paper hedge Aug 14, 2020, 4:23 AM

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😔

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I wish I was there to protect her.

lethal comet Aug 14, 2020, 4:34 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18-_9E0HNY4
The banshee in that trailer is fast af

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 4:37 AM

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I think that's how they usually are in lore

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 4:38 AM

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i remember how slow they are in CE

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 4:39 AM

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Well that's gameplay

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 4:39 AM

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that is also true

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the banshee is like the covie version of the hornet, right?

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 4:42 AM

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Well yea I guess

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But the banished can shoot down aircraft way larger than itself like the longsword and pelican

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 4:46 AM

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they do believe in tinkering

light kiln Aug 14, 2020, 4:46 AM

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Could be that we're viewing the Banshees in Spartan Time. So they seem slow.

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 4:51 AM

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That's a explanation I hear a bunch

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 4:51 AM

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ghosts still seem pretty quick, even with the whole spartan time thing

spiral jewel Aug 14, 2020, 4:56 AM

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For Fireteam Crimson, would it be farfetched to guess/hypothesize/assume that they're either stationed on the Infinity, or dealing with Created Shenanigans between the events of Halo 5 and Infinite? (Autumn 2558- Spring 2560-61)

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 4:58 AM

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i...am not too sure about that

light kiln Aug 14, 2020, 5:02 AM

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Fireteam Crimson is probably dead, honestly.

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They'd likely be on Infinity like Majestic. I highly doubt that they'd be dealing with the Created though.

unique rune Aug 14, 2020, 5:05 AM

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Reading through more of Battle Born... kinda interesting seeing some of the tech in it.
Stuff like the implication that Halo 5’s kinetic bolt weapon attachment seems to be something CDS degeloped?

spiral jewel Aug 14, 2020, 5:08 AM

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@light kiln there's probably cases to make cases for both sides of the story

light kiln Aug 14, 2020, 5:10 AM

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Which sides?

spiral jewel Aug 14, 2020, 5:10 AM

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@light kiln Crimson being either dead or pacing around on the Infinity waiting for orders

light kiln Aug 14, 2020, 5:12 AM

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Them being dead is a reference to the Halo Infinite trailer where the Infinity game over'd itself and a bunch of its crew.

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 5:12 AM

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The infinity is not destroyed

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Those were personal tags saying deceased

gilded mason Aug 14, 2020, 5:13 AM

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Or rather, not confirmed

light kiln Aug 14, 2020, 5:13 AM

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^^

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 5:13 AM

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Who would think destroying the most important warship in humanity offscreen would be a good idea

spiral jewel Aug 14, 2020, 5:13 AM

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@cedar surge not to mention none of the tags shown were Spartan tags, they were either ONI, ODST, or UNSC navy

light kiln Aug 14, 2020, 5:14 AM

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With a field full of debris and dead people floating around, it's safe to presume that something happens that involves the ship.

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Not its destruction-
Or the ring blew up and ejected people.

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Random thought.

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How do you know that about the tags?

unique rune Aug 14, 2020, 5:19 AM

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Their affiliations are shown before they switch to reading as deceased.

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There’s a screencap of it on Halopedia.
https://www.halopedia.org/images/c/cb/HINF_FriendOrFoeTags.png

light kiln Aug 14, 2020, 5:25 AM

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Ah. Makes more sense.

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Then they're probably alive.
I'm still not too sure about dealing with Created shenanigans though. Last I heard, the Infinity was constantly making slipspace jumps to not be found.
Though there are Spartan Teams (A whole stations worth) currently doing their own thing. So, of they were I'd guess that.

lethal comet Aug 14, 2020, 5:31 AM

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Who would think destroying the most important warship in humanity offscreen would be a good idea
We just saw the trailer

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The demo takes place several hours into the story according to xbox

fair hazel Aug 14, 2020, 5:43 AM

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Not covenant version of hornet

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its its own vehicle

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 5:59 AM

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Y’know, the gravity hammer has a volume of more than 0.06 cubic meters. For it the be a measly 40 kilograms would require it to have the density of wood and float around — a hammer. Official numbers are so stupid

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That’s the top end only, also a lowball

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The blade supposedly made of tungsten, which easily makes the thinnest and smallest part of the weapon to exceed the official weight

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Even the smallest shown hammer, such as the ones in Halo Wars 2, should be twice of what is stated for the Fist of Rukt at least

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well, they hare gravity hammers

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breaking physics is what they do

stable flower Aug 14, 2020, 6:16 AM

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I want the Interplanetary War to be explored more.

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Who would think destroying the most important warship in humanity offscreen would be a good idea
@cedar surge Probably the same person who suggested MC visiting a Halo ring and killing the Didact off in a comic was a good idea.

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Hwy guys did you know in halo 3 there was a unifected dead odst. Either meaning he died on impact when the IAC crashed or he survived high charity and died
@cedar surge There's an uninfected regular marine by the Pelican too.

inner basin Aug 14, 2020, 9:14 AM

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That Pelican that Arby and Chief escaped in likely was dispatched there by the UNSC after HC arrived and an ODST (or maybe a few) and a Marine went to investigate. Then they subsequently died, but maybe weren’t infected because perhaps they were all mangled and the Flood couldn’t make good use of their bodies? I don’t know. That’s the only reason I can think of for why they haven’t been infected

mild kestrel Aug 14, 2020, 12:31 PM

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If the universe is 13 billion+ years old, what happened before 200,000 BCE in the halo universe; for context in 150,000 BCE the forerunners destroy their homeworld in a stellar engineering accident.

lethal comet Aug 14, 2020, 12:32 PM

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The precursors roamed from galaxy to galaxy seeding life everywhere

mild kestrel Aug 14, 2020, 12:33 PM

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Ik, but did the life they seed become as advanced as ancient humans and forerunners

lethal comet Aug 14, 2020, 12:34 PM

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The universe doesn't expand on things outside the galaxy

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And the forerunners took a long long time to evolve

mild kestrel Aug 14, 2020, 12:35 PM

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Wasn't sure so thought I would ask more knowledgeable lore people than I

lethal comet Aug 14, 2020, 12:35 PM

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The closest we got to things outside the milky way was in the forerunner triology

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When the flood retreated out of the galaxy and the primitive forerunners in path kethona

mild kestrel Aug 14, 2020, 12:36 PM

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I have read the forerunner saga, wish there were more book like those

lethal comet Aug 14, 2020, 12:36 PM

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I only liked silentium

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Primordium is not really engaging

mild kestrel Aug 14, 2020, 12:37 PM

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It was a bit slow, but still an interesting read

lethal comet Aug 14, 2020, 12:38 PM

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Cryptum felt like an introduction to the main characters and setting the stage for the Ecumene's collapse

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Primordium was the start of the end

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And silentium was the forerunners last stand

paper hedge Aug 14, 2020, 3:32 PM

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So, Reach trailer was based hours before the destruction of the big covenant ship? Because In game Kat ❤️ has a new arm

humble yacht Aug 14, 2020, 3:33 PM

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What?

carmine sleet Aug 14, 2020, 3:34 PM

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Deliver Hope doesn't take place on Reach

humble yacht Aug 14, 2020, 3:34 PM

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Deliver Hope is more like weeks/months before the events of he game

carmine sleet Aug 14, 2020, 3:36 PM

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It takes place on the planet Fumirole on April 22, 2552

lethal comet Aug 14, 2020, 3:37 PM

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So, Reach trailer was based hours before the destruction of the big covenant ship? Because In game Kat ❤️ has a new arm
So did you think that Thom was 6

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And Deliver hope shows Jorge

paper hedge Aug 14, 2020, 3:47 PM

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So did you think that Thom was 6
@lethal comet yup, and as being said, I’m newbie to halo lore. Sorry for scrubbing around

inner basin Aug 14, 2020, 3:48 PM

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I thought it was extremely obvious that even those who aren’t interested in the lore would know

humble yacht Aug 14, 2020, 3:53 PM

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Me too but we’re biased since we know the lore pretty well

paper hedge Aug 14, 2020, 3:57 PM

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I have always been interested in Halo lore since the original Xbox, shooting aliens is my thing. But I’m not lore specialist, tho I believed the bruts were a different race, until @vague scroll told me they are covenants

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Sorry for the ping ^

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But I was tricked on Reach trailer, I believed that was the mission which Jorge sacrifices himself.

humble yacht Aug 14, 2020, 4:01 PM

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The covenant is made up of many races

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So the brutes are a different race than the grunts or the elites

paper hedge Aug 14, 2020, 4:04 PM

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TodayInHalo, 2552 – Noble Team initiates Operation: UPPER CUT by infiltrating the besieged Sabre launch facility on Farkas Beach on the planet Reach.

lethal comet Aug 14, 2020, 4:04 PM

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But I was tricked on Reach trailer, I believed that was the mission which Jorge sacrifices himself.
@paper hedge the trailer took place during the battle of fumirole. The spartan we see with the jetpack was the previous noble 6 thom

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About 2 months before fall of reach

paper hedge Aug 14, 2020, 4:06 PM

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That explains how Noble team welcome you as the replacement to the team, everyone says a phrase to N6.

lethal comet Aug 14, 2020, 4:11 PM

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Noble 6 was a headhunter before I think, correct me if I am wrong

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And a test pilot for the sabre project

paper hedge Aug 14, 2020, 4:12 PM

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Yes

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Kat says N6 is a test pilot.

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Where is Kat’s body buried?

inner basin Aug 14, 2020, 4:15 PM

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Noble 6 was a headhunter before I think, correct me if I am wrong
I don’t think he can be a Headhunter because during the War, Headhunters were inserted as Binary Teams (exclusively) as far as we can tell from their lore. The whole Lone Wolf thing was post-war after the reformation of the program.
Where is Kat’s body buried?
Unknown

orchid prism Aug 14, 2020, 4:15 PM

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about headhunter

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they are the most secretive and elite types of spartans right?

inner basin Aug 14, 2020, 4:17 PM

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Yeah. Jun-A266 previously was one before his reassignment from the program into NOBLE Team

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Headhunters were even a secret to their Spartan-III peers during the War

orchid prism Aug 14, 2020, 4:18 PM

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Who was Jun with before joining noble team?

inner basin Aug 14, 2020, 4:18 PM

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Unknown. I always thought it’d be cool if he was paired with Hazel-A302

orchid prism Aug 14, 2020, 4:18 PM

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Hazel.... yeah i've heard of that name

inner basin Aug 14, 2020, 4:19 PM

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If you went to Outpost Discovery, you would be fairly familiar with that name

orchid prism Aug 14, 2020, 4:19 PM

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oh

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never knew it gonna check it now

sinful pollen Aug 14, 2020, 4:20 PM

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I went to the outpost discovery in Florida last year but I didn't get to experience anything because the lines were so long when I got there.

inner basin Aug 14, 2020, 4:22 PM

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Fun fact about Outpost Discovery. It actually has a canonical explanation in universe, and Hazel along with another Spartan-III, Owen-B096 were there at the event in canon. I don’t know if they had someone in an outfit acting as these Spartans present at the actual Outpost event because I live in Europe and never got to experience it unfortunately

orchid prism Aug 14, 2020, 4:23 PM

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interesting

sinful pollen Aug 14, 2020, 4:23 PM

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If they do Halo Outpost again, it might be help if they have maybe 2 or 3 of the same attraction so it could let more people experience the stuff.

inner basin Aug 14, 2020, 4:24 PM

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If they do Halo Outpost again, it might be help if they have maybe 2 or 3 of the same attraction so it could let more people experience the stuff.
I’d say how about bringing it to Europe instead

sinful pollen Aug 14, 2020, 4:25 PM

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Plus the wifi wasn't working in the building that it was in so you couldn't use the Halo Outpost app to scan the stuff that was there.

orchid prism Aug 14, 2020, 4:25 PM

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Unfortunately since Covid has arrived, don't think we might get another Halo Outpost again...

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for a long time

sinful pollen Aug 14, 2020, 4:25 PM

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I mean, maybe not this year but it doesn't rule out anything in the future

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Once a working vaccine comes out

carmine sleet Aug 14, 2020, 4:26 PM

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I don’t know if they had someone in an outfit acting as these Spartans present at the actual Outpost event
They did have two cosplayers acting as them at the event

inner basin Aug 14, 2020, 4:27 PM

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Well that’s pretty cool, I guess. Would’ve been better if I got to see them in person though (considering Spartan-IIIs are my favourite part of the lore)

sinful pollen Aug 14, 2020, 4:29 PM

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The only thing I got to do there was meet Major Nelson. I wanted to buy one of the Master Chief helmets but they sold out really quick, idk how much stock they initially had

lethal comet Aug 14, 2020, 4:30 PM

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I have a master chief motorbike helmet

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More durable than the cosplay one since this is certified to survive a crash

orchid prism Aug 14, 2020, 4:31 PM

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im jealous now lol

lethal comet Aug 14, 2020, 4:31 PM

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Get odd looks from time to time

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Btw which look of halsey is canon

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Reach or 5

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Or that absurdly young one in the package

inner basin Aug 14, 2020, 4:40 PM

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They’re all canon. In the Package Halsey is approximately 25 years younger than she is in Reach, and in Reach she is 6 years younger than she is in 5. Why did you think only one is canon? It’s natural ageing

sinful pollen Aug 14, 2020, 4:40 PM

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Reach Halsey is younger because Reach is a prequel

inner basin Aug 14, 2020, 4:41 PM

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^ That doesn’t really make sense when considering the context of the question

sinful pollen Aug 14, 2020, 4:41 PM

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The only one that's not cannon is the Halo Legends cartoon Halsey, no idea why they made her a blonde anime girl

inner basin Aug 14, 2020, 4:42 PM

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It is canon

sinful pollen Aug 14, 2020, 4:42 PM

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How though?

inner basin Aug 14, 2020, 4:42 PM

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It just is

sinful pollen Aug 14, 2020, 4:43 PM

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In Fall of Rach she had black hair

orchid prism Aug 14, 2020, 4:43 PM

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ngl

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in halo legends, halsey was kinda cringey with all those references lol

humble yacht Aug 14, 2020, 4:44 PM

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"The Package" is 8 years before reach

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not 25

sinful pollen Aug 14, 2020, 4:44 PM

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I understand that the story of Halo Legends is canon but the appearance of Halsey in Halo Legends was canon? That's confusing

gilded mason Aug 14, 2020, 4:45 PM

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but the appearance of Halsey in Halo Legends was canon?
It is not, as far as I know.

humble yacht Aug 14, 2020, 4:45 PM

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Halsey's depiction in The Package is too young

inner basin Aug 14, 2020, 4:45 PM

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"The Package" is 8 years before reach
I made a mistake. I was thinking of something else

glacial gulch Aug 14, 2020, 4:46 PM

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guys is there any book

inner basin Aug 14, 2020, 4:46 PM

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It was 2544

glacial gulch Aug 14, 2020, 4:46 PM

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that contain the biology of halo

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like irican

sinful pollen Aug 14, 2020, 4:46 PM

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Fall of Reach was before the events of the Package b/c that was the Spartan 2 origin stories.

humble yacht Aug 14, 2020, 4:46 PM

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the fall of reach novel takes place across a long period of time

sinful pollen Aug 14, 2020, 4:46 PM

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And Halsey had black hair in there

inner basin Aug 14, 2020, 4:47 PM

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Things can change. Have you heard of hair dye?

gilded mason Aug 14, 2020, 4:47 PM

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It's best to just think of it as anime being anime.

inner basin Aug 14, 2020, 4:47 PM

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It's best to just think of it as anime being anime.
Kelly’s heel-boots and breastplate

gilded mason Aug 14, 2020, 4:48 PM

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Eyup

fair hazel Aug 14, 2020, 4:57 PM

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By the way... hair dye exists

gilded mason Aug 14, 2020, 5:02 PM

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Beast beat you to that.

spiral jewel Aug 14, 2020, 5:03 PM

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I wouldn't be surprised if a handful of Spartans ( 2's 3s and 4's) post HCW use hair dye ( though, I'm sure that the 2's probably wouldn't know how to use it, aside from Maria probably)

gilded mason Aug 14, 2020, 5:04 PM

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They're fast learners, if they didn't already know how, they'd figure it out fairly quickly.

spiral jewel Aug 14, 2020, 5:04 PM

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Good point

craggy sierra Aug 14, 2020, 5:13 PM

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Halsey doesn’t strike me as someone who’d dye her hair

gilded mason Aug 14, 2020, 5:13 PM

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Yeah.

humble yacht Aug 14, 2020, 5:15 PM

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she'd obviously dye her hair blue

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not black

inner basin Aug 14, 2020, 5:16 PM

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Blue hair? Funky

fair hazel Aug 14, 2020, 6:16 PM

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Ah. I got beat.

prisma root Aug 14, 2020, 6:39 PM

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anyone up?

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i have lots of questions about the universe

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i want to ask

feral perch Aug 14, 2020, 6:40 PM

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shoot

humble yacht Aug 14, 2020, 6:40 PM

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just ask, people will answer if they're around and feel like it

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 6:57 PM

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Wht

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 7:07 PM

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ask away

prisma root Aug 14, 2020, 7:15 PM

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▪︎how did the flood survive from the events of halo 3?

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▪︎Is sanghelios also subjugated by the guardian?

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▪︎and also please explain the ending of halo wars 2

stable flower Aug 14, 2020, 7:17 PM

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Halo 3's ending is made more tragic by ATN.

prisma root Aug 14, 2020, 7:18 PM

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I want to know these answers

stable flower Aug 14, 2020, 7:19 PM

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We destroy High Charity, only for ATN to show most of it still intact. We activate Alpha Halo B to destroy the Flood, only for ATN to once again show that they survived. So everything we did at the end of Halo 3 was for nothing.

prisma root Aug 14, 2020, 7:19 PM

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so halo 3 was a lie?

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**▪︎how did the flood survive from the events of halo 3?
▪︎Is sanghelios also subjugated by the guardian?
▪︎and also please explain the ending of halo wars 2 **

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I need answers please..

autumn quiver Aug 14, 2020, 7:21 PM

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hiddenxperia probably has videos for each of those

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 7:21 PM

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sanghelios is subjected to the guardian's sonic burst

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we see that in H5

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at the end of H5, we see cortana near an unidentified halo

prisma root Aug 14, 2020, 7:22 PM

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ohh right

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 7:22 PM

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in HW2, anders sees a guardian

prisma root Aug 14, 2020, 7:22 PM

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yes

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what does that mean?

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 7:23 PM

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its meant to show that both the storylines are finally coming together

prisma root Aug 14, 2020, 7:23 PM

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WAIT

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 7:23 PM

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the halo cortana reaches is the one anders was on

prisma root Aug 14, 2020, 7:23 PM

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so the halo ring we saw in 5

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 7:23 PM

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installation 09

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yeah

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was from HW2

prisma root Aug 14, 2020, 7:23 PM

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is the one Anders is on?

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 7:23 PM

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aye

prisma root Aug 14, 2020, 7:23 PM

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wow

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I didnt know

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 7:24 PM

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i was legit nuts when i connected the dots

obsidian thistle Aug 14, 2020, 7:24 PM

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Oh?

prisma root Aug 14, 2020, 7:24 PM

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and halo 3 was a lie?

obsidian thistle Aug 14, 2020, 7:24 PM

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No it wasnt

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 7:24 PM

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i dont think it was a lie. the flood was also on the ark

prisma root Aug 14, 2020, 7:24 PM

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yea

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 7:25 PM

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like, high charity crashes into it

prisma root Aug 14, 2020, 7:25 PM

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flood on high charity, ark, and installation 08 was supposed to be cleansed

feral perch Aug 14, 2020, 7:25 PM

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The Halo ring at the end of HW2 is Installation 09. The ring seen in the Legendary ending for Halo 5: Guardians is an unknown ring, and the ring in Halo Infinite is Installation 07.

obsidian thistle Aug 14, 2020, 7:25 PM

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Side note: We dont know the ring in Halo 5 yet.

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It could be I07 or I09.

prisma root Aug 14, 2020, 7:26 PM

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y'all confusing me TwT

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 7:26 PM

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07 has a hole in it

feral perch Aug 14, 2020, 7:26 PM

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It could be any of the surviving Installations imo.

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 7:26 PM

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besides the obvious one

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its 09

feral perch Aug 14, 2020, 7:26 PM

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Not necessarily.

obsidian thistle Aug 14, 2020, 7:26 PM

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@versed helm we dont know when that hole was caused.

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It could of happened after the Halo 5 ending.

prisma root Aug 14, 2020, 7:26 PM

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what was his name again?

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halo infinites villain

feral perch Aug 14, 2020, 7:26 PM

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Escharum

prisma root Aug 14, 2020, 7:27 PM

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esharum

feral perch Aug 14, 2020, 7:27 PM

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Pronounced “Eh-sure-um”

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Escharum

prisma root Aug 14, 2020, 7:27 PM

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yeaa

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so we were told about atriox in hw2

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 7:27 PM

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this is 07, zeta halo. one of the original 12. it got shrunk down cause it had to hoop a planet, but the gravitational flux messed up the ring

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09 was made by anders

prisma root Aug 14, 2020, 7:27 PM

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who is escharum then?

obsidian thistle Aug 14, 2020, 7:27 PM

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Erm

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I09 was not made by Anders

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It was automated by the Ark after I08 was destroyed.

feral perch Aug 14, 2020, 7:28 PM

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Escharum is the leader of the Banished in the Milky Way galaxy.

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 7:28 PM

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it was, in an attempt to get close to UNSC space. it had the firing mechanism disabled

obsidian thistle Aug 14, 2020, 7:28 PM

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Anders only tweeked parts of it.

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 7:28 PM

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but cortana finds it

obsidian thistle Aug 14, 2020, 7:28 PM

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That isnt making the ring ;)

prisma root Aug 14, 2020, 7:28 PM

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Escharum is the leader of the Banished in the Milky Way galaxy.
@feral perch is atriox under escharum?

carmine sleet Aug 14, 2020, 7:29 PM

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Atriox is the leader of the Banished

obsidian thistle Aug 14, 2020, 7:29 PM

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He is one of Atrioxs Warlords.

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A General if you will in a sense

prisma root Aug 14, 2020, 7:29 PM

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installation 09 is replacement of 08 which in turn is a replacement of 04 right?

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 7:29 PM

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yep

obsidian thistle Aug 14, 2020, 7:29 PM

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Yup

prisma root Aug 14, 2020, 7:29 PM

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ok

feral perch Aug 14, 2020, 7:30 PM

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is atriox under escharum?
@prisma root

No. By 2560, Atriox’s fate is unknown.

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 7:30 PM

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last we see him, he's looking at the corpse of a proto-gravemind

prisma root Aug 14, 2020, 7:30 PM

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so atriox holds higher power than escharum right?

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 7:30 PM

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on the ark

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atriox leads the banished

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escharum is part of it

prisma root Aug 14, 2020, 7:31 PM

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ok i get it now

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and r'tas vadum

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where is he currently?

obsidian thistle Aug 14, 2020, 7:32 PM

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I'll get ya a source cause thats complex

craggy sierra Aug 14, 2020, 7:32 PM

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Last we saw he was leaving off on a mission to find the rest if the prophets race to broker peace with those un-involved in the covenant.

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...I think?

obsidian thistle Aug 14, 2020, 7:32 PM

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Cause we know a lil beyond the above

prisma root Aug 14, 2020, 7:32 PM

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lol

craggy sierra Aug 14, 2020, 7:33 PM

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That was all before the created stuff happened too

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 7:33 PM

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didnt he blow up along with the other elites when that engineer accidentally activated a nova bomb?

prisma root Aug 14, 2020, 7:33 PM

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what

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 7:33 PM

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on the carrier?

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yeah

prisma root Aug 14, 2020, 7:33 PM

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really?!

obsidian thistle Aug 14, 2020, 7:33 PM

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https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/forums/db05ce78845f4120b062c50816008e5d/topics/catalog-interaction/4c3e1c6f-6519-4ee0-83a4-4bac13bf07a3/posts?page=14#post262

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 7:33 PM

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im not too sure about that

prisma root Aug 14, 2020, 7:33 PM

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https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/forums/db05ce78845f4120b062c50816008e5d/topics/catalog-interaction/4c3e1c6f-6519-4ee0-83a4-4bac13bf07a3/posts?page=14#post262
@obsidian thistle ty...i'll read it now

obsidian thistle Aug 14, 2020, 7:34 PM

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That has the status of the Shadow of Intent circa March 3 2558

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Love those catalog posts

carmine sleet Aug 14, 2020, 7:34 PM

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didnt he blow up along with the other elites when that engineer accidentally activated a nova bomb?
Half Jaw isn't dead, and definitely not because of a NOVA

obsidian thistle Aug 14, 2020, 7:35 PM

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Yea he aint dead

prisma root Aug 14, 2020, 7:36 PM

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i understand

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i guess

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wait

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he went in search of the san shyuum species

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 7:37 PM

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some super famous elite did due to an accidental nova bomb though, right? like, he was a very devout believer, the prophets exiled him cause they were scared of him

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after the schism, he came back and tried to re-make the covenant?

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but went super-nova?

obsidian thistle Aug 14, 2020, 7:37 PM

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May I suggest reading Halo: Ghosts of Onyx ;)

prisma root Aug 14, 2020, 7:37 PM

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i dont have the book sigh

obsidian thistle Aug 14, 2020, 7:37 PM

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Cause thats where that story happens

prisma root Aug 14, 2020, 7:38 PM

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how long have you been following halo?

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 7:38 PM

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man, i REALLY need to re-lore

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i've been in it for 4-5 years now

prisma root Aug 14, 2020, 7:39 PM

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i had halo 5

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i got it with the bundle

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but never played it

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until year

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and i loved it

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yea i get mad when i dont understand a reference

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or the plot

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 7:40 PM

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me too, bro. me too

prisma root Aug 14, 2020, 7:40 PM

#

when i played halo 5

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i was goin crazy

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i didnt know what was happening

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arbiter

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remnants

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i had to buy all the games and play from first

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 7:41 PM

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i watched the gameplay of the ones i dont have

prisma root Aug 14, 2020, 7:41 PM

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yea same

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i dont have ODST

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and HW1

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 7:41 PM

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i only have CE, 2, Assault and HW1

prisma root Aug 14, 2020, 7:42 PM

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wow

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and you know more than me

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wait 2 you have remastered or..?

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 7:42 PM

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original

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not the anniversary

prisma root Aug 14, 2020, 7:42 PM

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you play on?

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 7:43 PM

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PC

obsidian thistle Aug 14, 2020, 7:43 PM

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I been in with Halo lore since 2009. Becoming a Halopedian in 2015.

prisma root Aug 14, 2020, 7:43 PM

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ohh

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is the anyone who's been a fan since 2001?

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 7:44 PM

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me and CE were both released in the same year

prisma root Aug 14, 2020, 7:44 PM

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lol

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me and halo 2 were released in the same year

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 7:45 PM

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nice

prisma root Aug 14, 2020, 7:45 PM

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I mean the original one lol

craggy sierra Aug 14, 2020, 7:45 PM

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I was released the same year as Marathon Durundal

prisma root Aug 14, 2020, 7:46 PM

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1995? @craggy sierra

craggy sierra Aug 14, 2020, 7:46 PM

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Yep

prisma root Aug 14, 2020, 7:46 PM

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or 1996?

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nicee

obsidian thistle Aug 14, 2020, 7:47 PM

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A part of me wishes Halo kept the Marathon themed weapon names the early builds Bungie/Ex-Bungie emps showed had.

craggy sierra Aug 14, 2020, 7:48 PM

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I mean Marathon had a plasma pistol or something. That counts right?

prisma root Aug 14, 2020, 7:49 PM

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are mods people working for 343?

craggy sierra Aug 14, 2020, 7:49 PM

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I really don’t like Marathon. My last attempt to play it ended in motion sickness.

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 7:49 PM

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and now i want to play marathon

prisma root Aug 14, 2020, 7:49 PM

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same

craggy sierra Aug 14, 2020, 7:50 PM

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Enjoy getting lost in labyrinthine hallways that all look the same for hours on end with a game locked at 30 that only reads mouse inputs as mild suggestions.

fair hazel Aug 14, 2020, 8:07 PM

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No we're not

frank copper Aug 14, 2020, 8:19 PM

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What is Marathon, is it still playable, and where can I play it.

humble yacht Aug 14, 2020, 8:20 PM

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Check Apple store, I have it on my phone

craggy sierra Aug 14, 2020, 8:20 PM

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Bungie hosts free downloads for it on PC

heady void Aug 14, 2020, 8:22 PM

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Run from it, dread it, the Halo event still arrives

stable flower Aug 14, 2020, 8:24 PM

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Anyone remember Oni?

craggy sierra Aug 14, 2020, 8:28 PM

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Nope

frank copper Aug 14, 2020, 8:28 PM

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Office of Naval Intelligence?

obsidian thistle Aug 14, 2020, 8:29 PM

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Ah ONI. I have the PS2 version. That team apparently saved Halo CE.

craggy sierra Aug 14, 2020, 8:29 PM

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What a weird game that is

obsidian thistle Aug 14, 2020, 8:29 PM

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Shame there is no (or its very obscure) reference to it in Halo lore like Marathon has.

craggy sierra Aug 14, 2020, 8:30 PM

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I mean it also wasn’t that great either

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~~neither was Marathon but hey, people on Mac wanted DOOM and Bungie delivered~~

stable flower Aug 14, 2020, 8:31 PM

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It's an anime-like game where you fight criminals of different types who have a hierarchy, then you go rogue and fight your former co-workers on the useless police force you worked for.

frank copper Aug 14, 2020, 8:32 PM

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Interesting

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And Bungie made it?

craggy sierra Aug 14, 2020, 8:33 PM

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Yeah

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I think it was PS2 exclusive also

stable flower Aug 14, 2020, 8:34 PM

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The Syndicate are basically human versions of the Covenant, and the TCTF are a police version of the UNSC.

craggy sierra Aug 14, 2020, 8:35 PM

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And the game is basically a mediocre third person beat em up with some shooter stuff.

frank copper Aug 14, 2020, 8:36 PM

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The main character is a purple-haired hot chick

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Nice

humble yacht Aug 14, 2020, 8:51 PM

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Sounds like Ghost In The Shell

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 9:23 PM

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I really hate oni when they tried to framed chief for shooting up the peace treaty

true geyser Aug 14, 2020, 9:28 PM

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It's on PC as well. It shares some sound effects from Halo 1.

vague scroll Aug 14, 2020, 9:28 PM

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oni the game did have ghost in the shell inspirations

true geyser Aug 14, 2020, 9:28 PM

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I played it when I was much younger and impressionable, my one freind says it kinda sucks

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https://youtu.be/du8JepLM-lI very very gits, you could definitely call it an anime game

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 9:47 PM

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Halo legends the prototype is good. Doesn't Johnson wear it in HW2

obsidian thistle Aug 14, 2020, 9:47 PM

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The ONI comics are funnily enough one factor in how the Halo Graphic Novel came about.

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Halo legends the prototype is good. Doesn't Johnson wear it in HW2
@cedar surge he wears the "J" variant of that suit.

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 9:49 PM

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So since Johnson is dead is that variant canon? And I thought that the plans for the suit were destroyed following Cole protocol

obsidian thistle Aug 14, 2020, 9:49 PM

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https://twitter.com/GrimBrotherOne/status/867127335102828544?s=20

Jeff Easterling (@GrimBrotherOne)

@cia391 @HaloFanForLife @toa_freak @ske7ch The suit is canon.

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 9:50 PM

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Oh

obsidian thistle Aug 14, 2020, 9:50 PM

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;) I like me sources yo

inner basin Aug 14, 2020, 9:50 PM

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I swear you have old Tweets on demand lol

obsidian thistle Aug 14, 2020, 9:51 PM

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Lore Writers hate him
Lore Masters love him
CIA391

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 9:51 PM

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On one hand the suit is cool

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On the other I don't like jack of all trades suits

inner basin Aug 14, 2020, 9:52 PM

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Well technically base Mjolnir variants are like jack of all trades suits

obsidian thistle Aug 14, 2020, 9:52 PM

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Tbf we dont know if the J suit got used. Or if its in some facility getting dust.

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 9:52 PM

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It has shielding,mingun,grenade launcher, sticky grenades, motors, rocket launchers

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Oh yea it also has nuclear detonation

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Spartan armor has nothing on this

obsidian thistle Aug 14, 2020, 9:53 PM

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The Prototype suit only got used due to Ghost making use of it. It was gonna be destroyed otherwise.

feral perch Aug 14, 2020, 9:53 PM

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which suit?

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 9:53 PM

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I liked the battle in the episode between marines and covenant

inner basin Aug 14, 2020, 9:53 PM

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I still get chills whenever he does a super hero-esque landing in front of those two marines

obsidian thistle Aug 14, 2020, 9:54 PM

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https://www.halopedia.org/HRUNTING/YGGDRASIL_Mark_I_ADS

Halopedia

YGGDRASIL Mark I ADS

The HRUNTING/YGGDRASIL Mark I Prototype Armor Defense System, known simultaneously as HRUNTING and YGGDRASIL, was an experimental bipedal powered exoskeleton/armored fighting vehicle developed by the Materials Group at Weapons Research Facility T12A on Algolis. It was intended...

feral perch Aug 14, 2020, 9:54 PM

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Johnson's HW2 mech suit is canon? weird.

obsidian thistle Aug 14, 2020, 9:54 PM

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@feral perch

feral perch Aug 14, 2020, 9:54 PM

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Ah thank you.

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 9:54 PM

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If you put in you say run it really fits

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Halo works well with anime

obsidian thistle Aug 14, 2020, 9:54 PM

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~~Just wait till I tell you lot Cryo troopers are canon~~

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 9:54 PM

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Wait what

inner basin Aug 14, 2020, 9:55 PM

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Halo works well with anime
Well unless it involves giving Kelly heel boots and a breastplate

obsidian thistle Aug 14, 2020, 9:55 PM

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XD

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 9:55 PM

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You mean all of serinas troops are canon

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Oh yea I Remeber that

feral perch Aug 14, 2020, 9:55 PM

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Exellent. I want a cryogun in Halo Infinite.

obsidian thistle Aug 14, 2020, 9:55 PM

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Well

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 9:56 PM

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You mean that in the war the covenant were actually getting iced

obsidian thistle Aug 14, 2020, 9:56 PM

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The "only" Cryo Unit outside the prototype cryo bomb (which isnt a unit) is Cryo Troopers and even thats experimental on the Spirit of Fire.

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 9:57 PM

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So cryo troopers were a experimental unit only stationed on the SOF

obsidian thistle Aug 14, 2020, 9:57 PM

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At this current time yes.

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 9:58 PM

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Wow a lot of HW units sure would have been useful in the main story

obsidian thistle Aug 14, 2020, 9:58 PM

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For all we know only 1 squad was trained.

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https://www.halopedia.org/Blizzard_Squad

Halopedia

Blizzard Squad

Blizzard Squad is a United Nations Space Command Marine Corps squad present on the UNSC Spirit of Fire. The squad consists at least 2 Cryo Troopers a Marine, and one squad leader. This squad was formed during the Second Ark Conflict in 2559 against the Banished, implementing e...

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 9:58 PM

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Scarabs,no problem here's a vulture

inner basin Aug 14, 2020, 9:58 PM

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A lot of SoF forces are/have experimental weaponry and armaments

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 9:58 PM

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Need to take down covenant air support? Here's some wolverines

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Isn't most base vehicles in the campaign in use

obsidian thistle Aug 14, 2020, 9:59 PM

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That units the craziest it gets tbh in what the SoF actually using.

feral perch Aug 14, 2020, 9:59 PM

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Warthogs with rocket pods are decent AA.

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 9:59 PM

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Wolverines though

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I wish HW vehicles got used more outside of the RTS gamss

feral perch Aug 14, 2020, 9:59 PM

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At least it's better than the laughably bad AA Wraith. Fuel Rods are the worst anti-air munition.

inner basin Aug 14, 2020, 10:00 PM

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Those ice units aren’t really impressive anymore though. We got electric stun/shock grenades in Infinite from the trailer and a potential electric gun if we’re going to go off the MegaBlox sets (which is just speculation)

feral perch Aug 14, 2020, 10:01 PM

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Lightning gun would be amazeballs

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 10:01 PM

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Would hellbringers be more useful than cryo troopers?

west silo Aug 14, 2020, 10:01 PM

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Depends on range

feral perch Aug 14, 2020, 10:01 PM

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You can figure that out by picking up a Flamethrower in Halo 3/ODST

obsidian thistle Aug 14, 2020, 10:01 PM

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I guess it depends on the implementation

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 10:02 PM

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@feral perch gameplay does not equal canon. And I think flames are better

feral perch Aug 14, 2020, 10:02 PM

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you really didn't have to tell me that.

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I know the first rule of lore.

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 10:02 PM

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Misinterpreted

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Sorry

west silo Aug 14, 2020, 10:03 PM

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Flip tank

feral perch Aug 14, 2020, 10:03 PM

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It's okay.

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We don't know how either the flamethrower or cryocanon behaves in canon.

obsidian thistle Aug 14, 2020, 10:03 PM

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Its not really a "rule". Just a "thing to consider when discussing the games." ;)

west silo Aug 14, 2020, 10:04 PM

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Like a Spartan surviving a orbital drop and dying from a 10 meter fall

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Gameplay is fun

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 10:05 PM

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Or how the AR can only shoot 20 yards

inner basin Aug 14, 2020, 10:05 PM

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Or how the AR can only shoot 20 yards
And how the spread of it in-game is crazy

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 10:05 PM

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Stop using in game science and just search it up and stop getting false information

west silo Aug 14, 2020, 10:05 PM

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Bruh

feral perch Aug 14, 2020, 10:06 PM

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MattPat really did a great job on that energy sword lore video /s

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 10:06 PM

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Watched a video full of false information about the flaws of the unsc marines

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For example that the AR is too big and bulky

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Or that unsc guns were ineffective against the covenant

inner basin Aug 14, 2020, 10:06 PM

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The UNSC won most battles on the ground lol

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 10:07 PM

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Or that the marines might as well not wear armor since plasma is so effective

west silo Aug 14, 2020, 10:07 PM

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For example that the AR is too big and bulky
@cedar surge
Was it installation 00

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 10:07 PM

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No it was generation tech

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The best bit is you know what flaw they gave the marines?

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Driving

west silo Aug 14, 2020, 10:07 PM

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The UNSC won most battles on the ground lol
@inner basin
Mostly due to superior tactics and Spartans

inner basin Aug 14, 2020, 10:08 PM

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Doesn’t change the fact

feral perch Aug 14, 2020, 10:08 PM

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GenerationTech does mostly Star Wars doesn't he?

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 10:08 PM

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The guy actually said driving was the marines weakness

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Yes

obsidian thistle Aug 14, 2020, 10:08 PM

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@inner basin if I recall the UNSC winning ground engagements were mostly those that involved Spartans.

feral perch Aug 14, 2020, 10:08 PM

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That would explain the rookie lore mistakes.

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 10:08 PM

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He used gameplay to prove his point

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That was the worst researched video on his channel

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I think even 40k got more respect

feral perch Aug 14, 2020, 10:09 PM

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Actually not wearing a lot of armor because of the effectiveness of plasma is a good point.

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 10:09 PM

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The last thing is

west silo Aug 14, 2020, 10:09 PM

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The best bit is you know what flaw they gave the marines?
@cedar surge
Eww weren't he the guy who tried to make a better version of the scorpion and ended up making a worst one

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 10:09 PM

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He said a weakness of the marines is that the navy loses

feral perch Aug 14, 2020, 10:09 PM

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The Warthog, for example, isn't a heavily armored vehicle (no doors) and it has no need to be because plasma melts metal and turns it into a burning slag.

obsidian thistle Aug 14, 2020, 10:09 PM

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Well... if you want. There is no real rules to canon. Most places just try to follow what 343i say as canon to the best of their ability.

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 10:09 PM

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What how is that their fault

west silo Aug 14, 2020, 10:09 PM

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He said a weakness of the marines is that the navy loses
@cedar surge
What

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 10:10 PM

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Yes

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He actually says that the navy losing is the marines flaw

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They are two different branches

inner basin Aug 14, 2020, 10:10 PM

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It just hurts my brain trying to understand his thought process behind that

west silo Aug 14, 2020, 10:10 PM

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How can U blame the lost of space forces on the ground infantry

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 10:11 PM

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He even said that unsc guns were ineffective against the covenant

inner basin Aug 14, 2020, 10:11 PM

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You already said that earlier

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 10:11 PM

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That marines struggled with anything past grunts

west silo Aug 14, 2020, 10:11 PM

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He even said that unsc guns were ineffective against the covenant
@cedar surge
Well some

feral perch Aug 14, 2020, 10:13 PM

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That much is true.

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Jackal shield phalanxes, Elites, and Brutes were all powerful foes.

west silo Aug 14, 2020, 10:13 PM

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Try killing a hunter with a magnum

feral perch Aug 14, 2020, 10:13 PM

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gg ez

west silo Aug 14, 2020, 10:14 PM

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No halo ce pistols

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 10:14 PM

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Well my strategy to kill a hunter with a magnum would be to run away and get a rocket launcher

west silo Aug 14, 2020, 10:15 PM

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Well my strategy to kill a hunter with a magnum would be to run away and get a rocket launcher
@cedar surge
Splaser

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 10:16 PM

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And he has a problem with the unsc still using guns

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Ballistic guns

feral perch Aug 14, 2020, 10:16 PM

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sigh

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 10:17 PM

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And saying that the unsc marines had the worst drivers

west silo Aug 14, 2020, 10:17 PM

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Ballistic guns
@cedar surge
I hate the its tha future they should use lazea weopeans argument

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 10:17 PM

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And lack of air support

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He actually said lack of air support

west silo Aug 14, 2020, 10:18 PM

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And lack of air support
@cedar surge
Looks at the ships in orbit yaaa

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 10:18 PM

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Does he not even know the air force exist

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He said the marines lacked true air support and depended on the navy

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Longswords,shortswords,broadsword,baselard,nanados

west silo Aug 14, 2020, 10:21 PM

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I hate when people use a factions ground forces to say there weak and ignore the fact there true strength is there space force

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Longswords,shortswords,broadsword,baselard,nanados
@cedar surge
Hornets, wasp, condors,pelican gunships

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 10:22 PM

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Heck its obvious he only played the games and barely skimmed over the lore. Does he not even realise the longswords and brpadswords

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This video makes me angry

west silo Aug 14, 2020, 10:23 PM

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Heck its obvious he only played the games and barely skimmed over the lore. Does he not even realise the longswords and brpadswords
@cedar surge
Probably never even seen wars

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 10:24 PM

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Some warthogs have doors

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 10:24 PM

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You know its kinds funny when people refer to projectile weapons as primitive when we haunt even passed ballistic weapons

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Ballistic weapons are still in use

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Why does he call them primitive

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Does he expect to see laser guns in a couple of years

west silo Aug 14, 2020, 10:25 PM

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Some warthogs have doors
@versed helm
All warthogs had doors they were removed for some reason explained in contact harvest

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 10:25 PM

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Yea

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For like air or somethin easier to breathe

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Somthin like that

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 10:26 PM

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Is the AR even that heavy?

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 10:26 PM

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Prob

west silo Aug 14, 2020, 10:26 PM

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Does he expect to see laser guns in a couple of years
@cedar surge
The unsc had laser weopeans before encountering the covenant

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 10:27 PM

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In talking about right now

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Because I think its funny when people say projectile weapons are primitive while we are still using them

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 10:27 PM

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Compared to the covenant yea

west silo Aug 14, 2020, 10:28 PM

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Because I think its funny when people say projectile weapons are primitive while we are still using them
@cedar surge
And a lot of logistical problems
Come with laser weopeans

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 10:29 PM

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Complaining the only thing capable of taking things down in one shot is the sniper rifle and that it's not practical

west silo Aug 14, 2020, 10:30 PM

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Complaining the only thing capable of taking things down in one shot is the sniper rifle and that it's not practical
@cedar surge
Does this guy understand game balance?

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 10:30 PM

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Didn't the covenant turn a entire planet into a plasma storm for ammo for their weapons

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Well he used driving as a argument so no

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 10:30 PM

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Halo supposed to be a game first

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 10:30 PM

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Plus in the landfall trailer we see BR take down brutes fast

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 10:30 PM

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You know FUN

west silo Aug 14, 2020, 10:31 PM

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Plus in the landfall trailer we see BR take down brutes fast
@cedar surge
Land fall has some problems besides the obvious

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 10:31 PM

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Yeah not everythings gonna be pitch perfect to lore

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 10:32 PM

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So I know that a overcharged plasma pistol can take down a Spartans shield in one shot

west silo Aug 14, 2020, 10:32 PM

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Yeah not everythings gonna be pitch perfect to lore
@versed helm
Lets make Johnson white

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 10:32 PM

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But can it kill a fully shielding Spartan in one overcharged shot?

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 10:33 PM

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Whered u get that @west silo

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It shouldnt kill a spartan if it has sheilds

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 10:33 PM

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He said that a fully charged plasma pistol could take down a Spartan in one shot

west silo Aug 14, 2020, 10:33 PM

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Whered u get that @west silo
@versed helm
Its just a harmless joke about what u said😋

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 10:34 PM

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Oh i was wondering if there was anything connected lol

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 10:34 PM

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Oh he just said reverse engineering covenant tech to make our own energy weapons like its that easy

west silo Aug 14, 2020, 10:34 PM

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He said that a fully charged plasma pistol could take down a Spartan in one shot
@cedar surge
Um no sam died because his suit got breached

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 10:35 PM

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Well no if it was easy theyd have lasee weapons

west silo Aug 14, 2020, 10:35 PM

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Oh i was wondering if there was anything connected lol
@versed helm
But keyes is black now?

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 10:35 PM

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But they only managed sheilds

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 10:36 PM

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They got shields from reverse engineering jackal shields

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First off how is the unsc gonna get ammo for energy weapons

west silo Aug 14, 2020, 10:36 PM

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But they only managed sheilds
@versed helm
Plus overcharged shots have an emp effect that can shutdown vehicles

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 10:36 PM

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@Spartan 117 yes and master cheuf is now a female and according to netflix lgbt

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True tru

west silo Aug 14, 2020, 10:37 PM

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@Spartan 117 yes and master cheuf is now a female and according to netflix lgbt
@versed helm
Now Hold Up

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 10:37 PM

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Second off how is the unsc gonna reverse engineer energy weapons like that so easily

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 10:37 PM

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Who knows

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 10:37 PM

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He actually said that the unsc could have done it easily

west silo Aug 14, 2020, 10:38 PM

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Second off how is the unsc gonna reverse engineer energy weapons like that so easily
@cedar surge
It took them decades to finally understand the needler and they still don't fully get it

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 10:38 PM

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I mean prob it cant be too hard for the tip scientists

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 10:38 PM

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The more I watch the anger I get

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 10:38 PM

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Umm ok?

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 10:38 PM

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Tip scientists?

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Who

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ONI?

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 10:39 PM

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My bad ,phone too small for my hands too type sometimes

west silo Aug 14, 2020, 10:39 PM

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And it was halsey who said it

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My bad ,phone too small for my hands too type sometimes
@versed helm
I know that pain

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 10:40 PM

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In lore what happend to armour abilities?

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 10:40 PM

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He looked at all the good sides of the covenant energy weapons and looked at all the bad sides of projectile weapons

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There is a bias here

west silo Aug 14, 2020, 10:41 PM

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Did he note the pitiful amount of ammo covies weapons hold

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 10:41 PM

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Halo 1 plasma pistol op

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Plamsa in lore is too op

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Makes sense tho

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 10:42 PM

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He did for the unsc (using gameplay and not canon) and said that energy guns fire way longer

west silo Aug 14, 2020, 10:42 PM

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Halo 1 plasma pistol op
@versed helm
Halo 5 ce pistol is too

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 10:42 PM

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He said the unsc marines could barely hold ammo

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 10:42 PM

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Yes

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Only for h4

west silo Aug 14, 2020, 10:42 PM

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He said the unsc marines could barely hold ammo
@cedar surge
His source?

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 10:42 PM

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H4 has no ammo

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 10:43 PM

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Likely gameplay

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 10:43 PM

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Halo ce i always have crap ton of ammo

west silo Aug 14, 2020, 10:44 PM

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Wonder what he thinks of the prometheans

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 10:44 PM

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Probably think they are gods

west silo Aug 14, 2020, 10:45 PM

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Probably think they are gods
@cedar surge
Well kinda not wrong

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 10:45 PM

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Precursor be gods

west silo Aug 14, 2020, 10:45 PM

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Precursor be gods
@versed helm
Chaos gods

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 10:46 PM

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Before they turned into zombie dusts of course

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 10:46 PM

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No he kept on saying marines had ammo problems but didn't even address that for the covenant

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He barely spoke negatively about energy weapons

west silo Aug 14, 2020, 10:46 PM

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Before they turned into zombie dusts of course
@versed helm
Nurgle fertilizer

feral perch Aug 14, 2020, 10:46 PM

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Covenant plasma weaponry doesn't have a lot of downsides canonically speaking.

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 10:46 PM

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All h4 weapons dont got ammo

feral perch Aug 14, 2020, 10:47 PM

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It is incredibly devastating.

west silo Aug 14, 2020, 10:47 PM

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Covenant plasma weaponry doesn't have a lot of downsides canonically speaking.
@feral perch
The beam rifle is best boi

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 10:49 PM

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He says that firearms have the problem of having to get bigger to be more powerful. Doesn't the same go for energy weapons

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 10:49 PM

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Sorta

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Well yeah

west silo Aug 14, 2020, 10:50 PM

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He says that firearms have the problem of having to get bigger to be more powerful. Doesn't the same go for energy weapons
@cedar surge
Pretty much unless it's the plasma pistol

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 10:50 PM

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Halo ce pistol

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 10:50 PM

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Yea I don't get what he was going for. Energy weapons pretty much do the exact same

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 10:51 PM

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That thing can take the hat off an elite at 100 yards lol

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 10:51 PM

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Having to get bigger to do more damage

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The guy who did the flaws on the covenant had a much better video

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 10:51 PM

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Like the wraith

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 10:52 PM

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Using lore and not gameplay

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 10:52 PM

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Wraith is poopoo

feral perch Aug 14, 2020, 10:52 PM

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uh is he the one who said the Wraith was bad for not having a guidance system for its mortars?

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 10:53 PM

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The guy who did the unsc video or the one who did the covenant video

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If covenant then no

feral perch Aug 14, 2020, 10:53 PM

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Not GenerationTech, someone else.

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 10:53 PM

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Spookston?

west silo Aug 14, 2020, 10:53 PM

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I hate that people always forget that the wealth isn't a tank its a mobile artillery

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 10:53 PM

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He redesigned the scorpion and wraith

west silo Aug 14, 2020, 10:54 PM

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He redesigned the scorpion and wraith
@cedar surge l also hate that one

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 10:54 PM

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Somebody even claimed the scorpion redesigned to be more halo

gilded mason Aug 14, 2020, 10:54 PM

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He redesigned the scorpion and wraith```
He the guy who redesigned the wraith to have wheels?

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 10:55 PM

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I think so but its been a while

west silo Aug 14, 2020, 10:55 PM

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Yep

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 10:55 PM

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Question about the infinity

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 10:55 PM

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I don't really like the redesign

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It feels like a generic tank design

west silo Aug 14, 2020, 10:55 PM

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Now the wraiths greatest enemy is a muddy road

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 10:56 PM

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Its said to be the pride of joy of the unsc but how big is it compared to the autumn

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 10:56 PM

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The autumn class or the ship

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 10:56 PM

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Auttum hyclon class i beileive

feral perch Aug 14, 2020, 10:56 PM

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Bruh the UNSC Infinity is 6 kilometers long. It completely dwarfs the Pillar of Autumn.

west silo Aug 14, 2020, 10:56 PM

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Its said to be the pride of joy of the unsc but how big is it compared to the autumn
@versed helm
Its 5km big and the Autumn is like 1.2km

gilded mason Aug 14, 2020, 10:57 PM

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http://www.halopedia.org/images/3/37/HFB-Lotsofships.png

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 10:57 PM

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So it it fitts like 4 times in

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But correct me of im wrong

gilded mason Aug 14, 2020, 10:57 PM

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Pillar of Autumn on the bottom left (I think?)

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 10:57 PM

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But even during the war the autumn was like 1 third as small as the big ships

feral perch Aug 14, 2020, 10:58 PM

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sure?

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What is that human vessel that approaches the Infinity in size?

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 10:58 PM

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Idk classes

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 10:59 PM

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The wrath redesign looks like a apc with a wrath turret on it

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Though his scorpion redesign looks better

unique rune Aug 14, 2020, 11:00 PM

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What is that human vessel that approaches the Infinity in size?
Punic-class supercarrier

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 11:00 PM

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Thanks

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 11:00 PM

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Yea that beast

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It could also hold frigates and destroyers I think

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So did the old ships just get replaced or are they still off somewhere

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 11:02 PM

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Shipyards

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 11:03 PM

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The old ships are defending shipyards?

unique rune Aug 14, 2020, 11:03 PM

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No

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 11:03 PM

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No

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They getting dismantled for material

unique rune Aug 14, 2020, 11:03 PM

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It probably just varies from ship to ship

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Some might be decommissioned and scrapped, others may still be in service

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 11:09 PM

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What peice of media is when Sargent johnson undergo stuff for spartan 1 program

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Contact Harvest

sinful pollen Aug 14, 2020, 11:14 PM

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one of the books

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 11:14 PM

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Are u sure its in contact harvest

obsidian thistle Aug 14, 2020, 11:15 PM

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We dont have a story that goes into explicit detail on when Johnson got his augs.

sinful pollen Aug 14, 2020, 11:15 PM

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Use code Hiddenxperia for the ICONIC free audiobook. Kappa

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 11:15 PM

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They mention it. I don’t think it’s actually gone over in real time ever.

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Thanks

sinful pollen Aug 14, 2020, 11:16 PM

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Johnson is till alive, he's a time traveling alien

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 11:17 PM

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I always thought a huragock could have grabbed Johnson and for him to safety while repairing him...if they really wanted to bring him back 🤷🏻‍♂️

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The smaller green ones are made to repair bio organically

cedar surge Aug 14, 2020, 11:18 PM

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Grabbed Johnson? Why would a engineer be there

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 11:19 PM

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On the Ark? Why not???

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Why are the flood still alive there? A lot of dumb stuff can happen there it seems lol

unique rune Aug 14, 2020, 11:19 PM

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I mean.
More specifically.

What would a Lifeworker Huragok be doing inside the self-destructing control room of a newly constructed Halo ring?

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 11:20 PM

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Followed them there. Curiosity.

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Can make tons of reasons if the books are anything to go off of

unique rune Aug 14, 2020, 11:20 PM

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Followed them with... absolutely no one taking notice.

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 11:21 PM

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Sure. They use secret passageways all the time 🤷🏻‍♂️

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I’m not saying I’d like it for the record

unique rune Aug 14, 2020, 11:21 PM

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And even if there was a Lifeworker Huragok there to get to Johnson in time... there’d be no way for them to get off the ring in time.

versed helm Aug 14, 2020, 11:32 PM

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The place blew up like 2 seconds later

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Either way johnson wouldve died when he hit the floor

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Of the pit

cedar surge Aug 15, 2020, 12:36 AM

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Mow that I think about it why does the SoF have a bunch of experimental stuff

terse lava Aug 15, 2020, 12:36 AM

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whats going on here?

nimble crest Aug 15, 2020, 12:55 AM

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I mean, who would like bringing him back honestly? 343 couldn’t do Johnson.

slow igloo Aug 15, 2020, 1:01 AM

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Was thinking about that earlier. Like why bring back Spark? He literally betrays and kills Johnson. Why would 343 want to bring him back and have next to no consequences for his actions. (I just know he's back with a new body and little about his motives but still)

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Not saying I want Johnson back, but Id be lying if I said I wouldn't be happy to see him again. Him being a DLC in HW2 was brilliant

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Would be awesome to have a ODST style spin-off that features Johnson. Itd have to be a prequal but Id buy it

versed helm Aug 15, 2020, 1:21 AM

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Contact harvest game would be lit

cedar surge Aug 15, 2020, 1:26 AM

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Well there might be a entire repeat of the halo reach situation with the game demolishing the lore

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Though 343 seems more careful in that regard

west silo Aug 15, 2020, 1:36 AM

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Contact harvest game would be lit
@versed helm
The first half would be similar to a COD campaign

nimble crest Aug 15, 2020, 1:45 AM

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Id love to see the first contact

craggy sierra Aug 15, 2020, 1:53 AM

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I mean I don’t know what the initial reasoning was for bringing him back was but Renegades does some amazing stuff with Spark’s character

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He spends his time running scrap salvage with his new bff now

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I also find it hard to blame spark when Bungie just felt the need to ham fist arbitrary character deaths into Halo 3

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The way Johnson and Miranda go in that game doesn’t feel emotional because of how it comes across. It reads like someone looked at their watch at decided “it’s drama-o-clock”

cedar surge Aug 15, 2020, 1:58 AM

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So spark is a salvaged now?

craggy sierra Aug 15, 2020, 1:59 AM

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Salvager

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Yeah he’s BFF’s with Rion Forge running salvage missions now.

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He also got swole

cedar surge Aug 15, 2020, 2:02 AM

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How does a robot get swole

gilded mason Aug 15, 2020, 2:03 AM

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Drink his daily dose of nanomachines.

craggy sierra Aug 15, 2020, 2:04 AM

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You tell me

https://images.app.goo.gl/kJWhJZx3zTdWMuASA

unique rune Aug 15, 2020, 2:11 AM

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He steals a beefier robot’s body for his own use

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I need to get a copy of Renegades to read.

gilded mason Aug 15, 2020, 2:12 AM

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what a cheater smh

stable flower Aug 15, 2020, 2:13 AM

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@versed helm
The first half would be similar to a COD campaign
@west silo Because you're fighting humans? Why does everyone do that?

craggy sierra Aug 15, 2020, 2:14 AM

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Just fighting humans wouldn’t bode well for Halo gameplay

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You’d just 1-tap everything in the head. It’d just be fighting skinnier grunts.

west silo Aug 15, 2020, 2:15 AM

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I didn't mean it in a negative way infact ahalo game where u fight against humans would be fun

stable flower Aug 15, 2020, 2:16 AM

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Some could wear protective helmets/armor. It worked for Brutes.

west silo Aug 15, 2020, 2:16 AM

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Just look at infinite warfare

craggy sierra Aug 15, 2020, 2:16 AM

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Pretty sure that’d be the complete opposite

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It did not work for brutes

next delta Aug 15, 2020, 2:16 AM

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what spartans wore mark 5

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besides chief

stable flower Aug 15, 2020, 2:17 AM

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It protected Halo 2 Brutes from headshots. Halo Reach ones too.

craggy sierra Aug 15, 2020, 2:17 AM

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The only thing that worked for brutes in Halo 2 was the fact their head hitbox sucked

west silo Aug 15, 2020, 2:17 AM

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You’d just 1-tap everything in the head. It’d just be fighting skinnier grunts.
@craggy sierra
Dude gameplay and canon are two different things

craggy sierra Aug 15, 2020, 2:18 AM

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Well his idea is to spend half a game fighting humans. I don’t care what the canonical reasoning is. That wouldn’t make for a good game.

west silo Aug 15, 2020, 2:18 AM

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Plus you'd be playing as a non supersoldier

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Well his idea is to spend half a game fighting humans. I don’t care what the canonical reasoning is. That wouldn’t make for a good game.
@craggy sierra
Never played cod

craggy sierra Aug 15, 2020, 2:18 AM

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Halo isn’t CoD

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Nothing dies in Halo from an AR as fast as it does in CoD.

west silo Aug 15, 2020, 2:19 AM

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Nothing dies in Halo from an AR as fast as it does in CoD.
@craggy sierra
Never killed grunts have ya

craggy sierra Aug 15, 2020, 2:20 AM

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I seem to recall having to put more than a few rounds into them

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Especially on higher difficulties

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Like there’s a reason people just one-tap their way through grunt groups with precision weapons.

west silo Aug 15, 2020, 2:20 AM

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I seem to recall having to put more than a few rounds into them
@craggy sierra
Try playing cod veteran difficulty

craggy sierra Aug 15, 2020, 2:21 AM

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I’m pretty sure Halo’s low end is also higher than CoD’s ttk.

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Also having nothing use shields would kinda delete the purpose of Halo’s weapon sandbox as well.

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Hell without covenant there’d only be half a sandbox anyways.

west silo Aug 15, 2020, 2:22 AM

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I’m pretty sure Halo’s low end is also higher than CoD’s ttk.
@craggy sierra
Black ops 4 would like to have a word with u

craggy sierra Aug 15, 2020, 2:22 AM

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I don’t play CoD

west silo Aug 15, 2020, 2:23 AM

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Also having nothing use shields would kinda delete the purpose of Halo’s weapon sandbox as well.
@craggy sierra
U didn't have shields in odst still a fun game

craggy sierra Aug 15, 2020, 2:23 AM

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I meant on the enemies

west silo Aug 15, 2020, 2:23 AM

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I don’t play CoD
@craggy sierra
Then dont talk as if u have

craggy sierra Aug 15, 2020, 2:23 AM

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You’re basically asking Halo to not be Halo

west silo Aug 15, 2020, 2:24 AM

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You’re basically asking Halo to not be Halo
@craggy sierra
What defines halo

craggy sierra Aug 15, 2020, 2:24 AM

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Like none of the gameplay in Halo is suited to just taking on normal dudes.

west silo Aug 15, 2020, 2:24 AM

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Do u Like halo 5 gameplay I love It and I think that definws halo

craggy sierra Aug 15, 2020, 2:26 AM

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In the single player it’s usually defined by a large enemy roster with unique behaviours tied to every unit with differing health, aggression, tactics, and optimal strategies for beating it along with a weapon sandbox that offers optimal solutions depenidng on what unique threat you’re facing in the moment.

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Just fighting normal dudes throws all that out the window

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Halo’s enemy concept is that of old 90s shooters where each one had a specific role to fill in a combat encounter. Like DOOM.

versed helm Aug 15, 2020, 2:28 AM

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I sorta agree

craggy sierra Aug 15, 2020, 2:28 AM

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The extent if what you can do with humans as the only enemy, especially during the insurrection conflicts is, put a helmet on a dude.

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That’s not gonna carry a Halo campaign.

west silo Aug 15, 2020, 2:28 AM

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Just fighting normal dudes throws all that out the window
@craggy sierra
The normal dudes can easily have. Different unique traits
Flamers
Normal troops
Dudes with heavy armor
Dudes who are high on rumble drugs

versed helm Aug 15, 2020, 2:29 AM

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Yeah i don't think cod gameplay is as bad as ur putting it

craggy sierra Aug 15, 2020, 2:29 AM

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Every single one of those you could probably one tap with a DMR besides the heavy armour dude.

versed helm Aug 15, 2020, 2:29 AM

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Yeah

stable flower Aug 15, 2020, 2:30 AM

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Have a guy like the Bulldozer from Payday

west silo Aug 15, 2020, 2:30 AM

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Every single one of those you could probably one tap with a DMR besides the heavy armour dude.
@craggy sierra
U know most enemies can be killed with a br right

craggy sierra Aug 15, 2020, 2:31 AM

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They can but grunts are the only ones that go down with no strings attached.

west silo Aug 15, 2020, 2:31 AM

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Or a guy like the juggernaut from cod

versed helm Aug 15, 2020, 2:31 AM

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Jackles?

craggy sierra Aug 15, 2020, 2:31 AM

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Jackals you gotta stun first

versed helm Aug 15, 2020, 2:31 AM

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Who cares its 2 shotts for them

craggy sierra Aug 15, 2020, 2:31 AM

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They also really really like overcharging plasma pistols

west silo Aug 15, 2020, 2:31 AM

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Jackals you gotta stun first
@craggy sierra
Drones?

craggy sierra Aug 15, 2020, 2:31 AM

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They also fulfill a sniper role a larger range

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@craggy sierra
Drones?
@west silo flying enemies that come in swarms, invalidate cover, and are hard to hit.

versed helm Aug 15, 2020, 2:32 AM

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They would destroy a marine mega quick too without cover

west silo Aug 15, 2020, 2:32 AM

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@west silo flying enemies that come in swarms, invalidate cover, and are hard to hit.
@craggy sierra
Br decimate them

versed helm Aug 15, 2020, 2:33 AM

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Idk the idea sounds good

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Im sure theres a good way to make the gameplay fun

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Without being directly cod

craggy sierra Aug 15, 2020, 2:34 AM

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It might decimate them but the gimmick to drones is the fact that there’s so many of them, they come in high numbers, can flank you from above, and can decimate you in under a second if you don’t act carefully.

versed helm Aug 15, 2020, 2:34 AM

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Its like a half of the game too

west silo Aug 15, 2020, 2:35 AM

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U gotta give something a chance before imediently shooting it down thats how good things are made
Look at halo 2

versed helm Aug 15, 2020, 2:35 AM

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Yes sir

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But lets get to THE REAL QUESTIONS

west silo Aug 15, 2020, 2:36 AM

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But lets get to THE REAL QUESTIONS
@versed helm
Is chipps an precursor

craggy sierra Aug 15, 2020, 2:36 AM

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I do give a lot of things a chance. I do believe that a lot of the changed in H5 were for the better. But I also understand and have long made peace with the fact that Humans would not make for a compelling Halo enemy.

versed helm Aug 15, 2020, 2:36 AM

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Yes how is that a question course he is

craggy sierra Aug 15, 2020, 2:36 AM

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Regardless of what happens in lore, we’re probably not gonna see it in a game.

versed helm Aug 15, 2020, 2:37 AM

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Its an idea

lethal comet Aug 15, 2020, 2:37 AM

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Dubbo is god himself

west silo Aug 15, 2020, 2:39 AM

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I do give a lot of things a chance. I do believe that a lot of the changed in H5 were for the better. But I also understand and have long made peace with the fact that Humans would not make for a compelling Halo enemy.
@craggy sierra
Noo I don't want a complex enemies I just meant that in the book johnson fought humans then the covenant so I was saying it should start like that thats all

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And u guys were talking about a game version of contact harvest sooo

craggy sierra Aug 15, 2020, 2:43 AM

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That’s still like half a game spent fighting humans.

stable flower Aug 15, 2020, 2:45 AM

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The rebels could use robots. There were rebel robots in the concept art of Halo 5.

west silo Aug 15, 2020, 2:45 AM

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Thats what's the book said unless 343 wants to retcon events and upset lore fans like what bungie did with reach

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The rebels could use robots. There were rebel robots in the concept art of Halo 5.
@stable flower
Or drones

versed helm Aug 15, 2020, 3:21 AM

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So lore wise with the games it would go halo war one, reach, CEA, halo 2, ODST, halo 3,4 spartan assault/strike halo 5 halo wars 2

lethal comet Aug 15, 2020, 3:23 AM

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pretty much yeah

slow igloo Aug 15, 2020, 3:30 AM

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lol love that I sparked a big convo. But I was thinking making a story/game of the time frames that we dont know where/what Johnson is doing. This way it "shouldn't" retcon any pre-exsiting lore and we also to get to walk in the boots of one of the UNSC's meanest, greenest, SOB that isnt an OP Super Solider...

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AM I RIGHT, MARINES?!

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"Men, here is where we show those split-chin, squid-head, sons of b****** that they could not have picked a worse enemy than the human race. We are going to blow the hell out of those dumb bugs until we don't have anything left to shoot 'em with! And then, we are going to strangle them with their own living guts! Am I right, Marines?"

terse lava Aug 15, 2020, 3:34 AM

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eh not my style, but may be amusing

cedar surge Aug 15, 2020, 3:35 AM

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Or you could be a different soldier fighting on harvest or be a Spartan during the retaking of harvest

terse lava Aug 15, 2020, 3:36 AM

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also technically, calling Johnson the"greenest" wouldn't that imply you are saying he's a greenhorn? 😛

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well he's saying a halo game with a non-spartan player

cedar surge Aug 15, 2020, 3:37 AM

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Oh then a odst or marine during the harvest campaign

slow igloo Aug 15, 2020, 3:37 AM

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haha I see what you mean there. I just remember him saying "Then they must love the smell of green." To Arby after he advises them to leave sense the brutes have their scent.

cedar surge Aug 15, 2020, 3:38 AM

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A lot of things happened at harvest

paper hedge Aug 15, 2020, 3:38 AM

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Want to unlock Kat’s ❤️voiceline in Reach

slow igloo Aug 15, 2020, 3:39 AM

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Just thought itd be a cool idea to play as him. Id also love Arby to be playable again

paper hedge Aug 15, 2020, 3:40 AM

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HW should add Kat and Sarah Palmer as commanders

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Which is your fav Halo book?

terse lava Aug 15, 2020, 3:41 AM

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why would Kat be a commander?

paper hedge Aug 15, 2020, 3:41 AM

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Because she’s badass?

slow igloo Aug 15, 2020, 3:46 AM

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cant deny with both Kat and Palmer being badasses but idk if Kat is commander material. Carter was the squad leader after all. And Palmer might be one of Halo's most unlikable characters yet so idk. Unfortunately I just dont think 343 did a good job writing her. But my favorite book is probably Halo: Evolutions. Stomping on the Hills of a Fuss was awesome. But Brutes are also my fav so I might be alittle biased. Does Rise of Atriox count? lol

terse lava Aug 15, 2020, 3:49 AM

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Kat was more the techie of the team, and none of them were really commander material for an army

next delta Aug 15, 2020, 3:52 AM

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how many spartans used mark 5 and 6

cedar surge Aug 15, 2020, 3:53 AM

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Kat was n9t really a leader. Palmer definantly could fit in

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The didact and his prometheans would be a cool faction

slow igloo Aug 15, 2020, 3:57 AM

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Didact would be cool. Felt like he thrown away super fast. Same with Jul. 343 did not handle them well imo and thats such a shame. I liked them both
And Palmer was Commander Officer of the Spartans on Infinity. Still dont really care for her character tho.

cedar surge Aug 15, 2020, 3:57 AM

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Having the d idact trying to raise his prometheans army while also scavenging for leftover forerunner warships would have been cool

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All the while foghting other factions

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3 way war between prometheans,banished, and unsc/SoS

lethal comet Aug 15, 2020, 4:07 AM

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One character that deserves the spotlight is PFC Jenkins

cedar surge Aug 15, 2020, 4:08 AM

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Chips dubbo?

lethal comet Aug 15, 2020, 4:10 AM

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Dubbo is a running joke

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Jenkins has the saddest backstory imo

frank copper Aug 15, 2020, 4:13 AM

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Why Jenkins

lethal comet Aug 15, 2020, 4:13 AM

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Seems like an interesting character that wasn't used much

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He was with Johnson from 2525 till 2552

cedar surge Aug 15, 2020, 4:14 AM

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He was still a private

frank copper Aug 15, 2020, 4:14 AM

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He dead?

lethal comet Aug 15, 2020, 4:14 AM

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The flood got to him

west silo Aug 15, 2020, 4:14 AM

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He dead?
@frank copper
He wish

lethal comet Aug 15, 2020, 4:15 AM

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In contact harvest he didnt even get to see his family before they died

cedar surge Aug 15, 2020, 4:15 AM

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Yea Keyes is also apart of the flood hive mind right now

lethal comet Aug 15, 2020, 4:15 AM

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And he was an expert marksman

cedar surge Aug 15, 2020, 4:16 AM

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That's sad. Nearly everyone in CE dies to the flood or covenant